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Speaker 3 (01:55):
It was Wednesday, November ninth. That was foggy in Los Angeles.
We were working the night watching a homicide detail. My
partner's Bill Lockwood. The boss's Captain Lorman. My name's Friday.
It was eleven, twenty eight pm when we got to
the third floor at Georgia Street Receiving Hospital, doctor Terrell's.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Office right right to see Who've been waiting for you?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
We made it as soon as we could, doctor like
Kevin Neat my new partner, Bill Lockwood, Doctor Terrell.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Bill, how I think I've seen you roun Likeckwick?
Speaker 5 (02:17):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Or how I understand you got a problem.
Speaker 6 (02:19):
Doc with the start odd one half in a few
minutes after eleven. You want to sit down a minute,
I'll fill you in before we go back and take
a look at the body.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Thanks very much.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
I understand it's a.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Woman that right, Yeah, Grace Morgan. She's the night nurse
on Dearly.
Speaker 6 (02:31):
She told me she was sitting at the desk checking
over some patients cards. It was about five ten minutes
after eleven when she heard the elevator come up. Chair
of the elevator stop and the door's open. Kept on
checking the cards there, didn't pay any attention to it.
And then she realized nobody got out of the elevator.
She looked up and the elevator doors were still open.
She saw this young woman slumped over in a wheelchair
sitting there in the elevator.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
The woman was alone with it, and that's right.
Speaker 6 (02:53):
The nurse went over and wheeled her out of the elevator.
Woman was wearing a nightgown. Bathroom over that she's unconscious.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Nurse called me. The two of us took the woman
into a treatment room, examined. She was dead in any indication,
how long the body was still warm. She knew them
dead a short time.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Any idea of the cause of death.
Speaker 6 (03:11):
And then there's a couple of abrasions on her right shoulder,
another one in the right temporal region. Not positive, but
I don't think any of them were severe enough because
that no other markings at all. No, she seemed to
have been in good physical condition. No, it's a strong
smell of alcohol though, couldn't be she'd been drink He.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Was a nurse.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
Pretty sure the woman came up the elevator alone. Possibility
one of the attendants might have brought her up.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
No.
Speaker 6 (03:31):
I checked for the attendant on duty down the first
floor lobby, Ray Collins.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
He didn't bring her up.
Speaker 6 (03:35):
He said a man came in the lobby about eleven
o'clock said he had a sick woman out in his car.
He asked for a wheelchair to bring her in. Ray
asked if he could help, but the man said he'd
take care of it. It's all Ray knows about it.
He let the man have a wheelchair, then he went
in the back room changed some linens on the ambulance stretch.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Any possibility one of the other attendants might have brought
her up in the elevator.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
No, Collins was the only attendant on duty.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
I like to talk to him. Is he still around?
Speaker 5 (04:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (04:00):
I knew you'd want to see him. He was off
dut to eleven thirty. I held him over. He's down
at the corner having a sandwich. He'll be back in
a few minutes more. Do you figure, doctor, I think
the one could have operated the elevator, so possible, not
too probable, though it's a self operating elevator automatic.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Someone could have wielded a woman.
Speaker 6 (04:16):
Into the elevator, pushed the button for the third floor,
and then stepped back.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
We're taking her straight up.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah, and ressa sure the elevator didn't go back down
after it got up here.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Positive she heard the elevator doors open. They stayed that way.
Speaker 6 (04:27):
She kept waiting for someone to come out, and that's
what attracted her attention to How about identification, the woman
have a.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Person or anything like that.
Speaker 6 (04:34):
No, all she had was what she was wearing nightgown
slippers in the bathroom.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
Let's go back and have a.
Speaker 6 (04:39):
Look consuming okay, help You saw the only markings on
the body.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Of those abrasions on the shoulder in the forehead.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Yeah, you don't think that's why she's dead.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Any ideas at all?
Speaker 6 (04:50):
I wouldn't want to say Lockwood strange. One don't have
to wait for the autopsy.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
How about the wheelchair? The woman came up in dockwards.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
It now back here in the same room with the body.
They've noticed it wasn't to be touched. I knew you'd
want to check.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
All far in here, all right to smoke in here? Yeah,
sure of course they got.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
No thanks, no, no, over here.
Speaker 6 (05:11):
On the table, nurse put the woman's clothing over there,
nightgown slipper's bathroom.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
See wants to be a fairly.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Young woman, i'd say, in her early thirties.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
Nice looking girl, well groomed, nose, her hair, fingernails well kept.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
And bruised there on her head. Took a pretty good
blow to cause that.
Speaker 6 (05:31):
When you say yeah, it might even be worse than
it looks to say. Right now, other abrasions I was
telling you about right here along the clasicle seemed to
be fairly distinct.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
Three or four of them.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
That's all of them.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Huh, that's it, Like I say, well, no more. After
they post the body. Take a look at the clothing
over here.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Wanna check over the bathroom bill? Yeah, on a label here,
size marking though, size thirty four. This an ordinary ray
on nightgown. Seems to be fairly new. It's not dammages.
Speaker 6 (06:05):
Nothing in the bathroom, Joe, Both pockets empty, no visible markings,
manufacturer's label here, fairly common trade name.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
Wild remarks No, no, I'm showing you can have the
crime and I've check them over.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
How about the slippers? You know it's the same. Nothing.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
If you fellows well mede to notify the carner.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
No, we'll get a dock. We have to call in
for the crime lab crew. Anyway, it looks like a
rough one.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
We don't even know what we've got.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
We can't figure if somebody murdered the woman. Why did
they bring her here to die? She was sick or
hurt and they were worried enough about it to bring
her here. Why do they want to get rid of her?
Speaker 6 (06:30):
Leave her alone in an elevator? You know, it doesn't
make sense. Somebody's got something.
Speaker 7 (06:35):
To hide, Sure could use a lead.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
Man puts her on the elevator and sends her up
three floors doing who she is?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
How she died. Don't even know where she came from.
No choice when you start at the beginning ground floor.
Eleven fifty two pm, the receiving hospital attendant Ray Collins
returned and we interviewed him in doctor Terrell's office. He
told us substantially the same thing the doctor had told us.
At a few minutes past eleven o'clock that night, a
man entered the boy of the hospital and asked for
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a wheelchair to move a patient up to the third floor.
Colin stated he gave the man the wheelchair, The man
refused his offer of assistance, and Colins went on about
his work. He didn't see the patient, and he didn't
see any car park outside, and he was able to
give us only a partial description of the man himself,
a male Caucasian about thirty five years old, short, heavy bill,
dark hair. The crew from the crime lab arrived and
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began their investigation.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
The body was.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Photographed and fingerprinted, and the wheelchair was also dusted for prints.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
The clothing was packed up to be taken downtown for
further examination. After the men from the crime lab left,
Bill Lockwood began a canvas of the immediate neighborhood for
possible witnesses. Meantime, I checked with the rest of the
hospital personnel on the patients. They could tell me nothing.
Twelve thirty am I met Bill back at doctor Terrell's office.
Speaker 7 (07:47):
How'd you do?
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Joe lock after the nurses and some of the other
attendants they couldn't help, and he checked with the dispatcher
on incoming and outgoing ambulance. There's nothing there. What about you?
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Most of the business places around here in Lock talked
to the newsboy down at the corner, and he was
about the only one in the street.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
You didn't see anything. Sure, going slow and then might
give Bergmann a call, see if he's got the woman's
prince classified that.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
How about the corner show up here?
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Yeah, I think he's in there now, yes, ma'am give
me station two five five seven, Yeah, that's right, Laton Prince,
All right, let me talk to Bergman please, right, yeah, Dean,
Joe Friday. Now, we're still over at the hospital. And
do any good to those prints?
Speaker 1 (08:27):
H that's what we figured.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
How about her, Prince? H okaying, thanks, yep, right, we're
still batting a thousand.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
When do you say they make her prints?
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Nothing in records on her. Dean's gonna send along a
set to Washington, see if they got anything.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
How about the wheelchairney prints there?
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Oh, the nurses and Doc Carroll's that's all I figured
on that. Then, how's he luck? Sure I checked with
missing persons while you were out. There's nothing there either.
Speaker 8 (08:50):
Not.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
How about finish this up here?
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Huh yeah, we better get back to.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
The office, Joe. Yeah, I think I got something for
you here.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Nurse at the switch point got a call a minute
to go.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
A man's voice wanted to know the condition Carla Cheswick.
Nurse checked olictpations, didn't find anyone by that name. The
man insisted she's here, and nurse asked me what time
the woman was admitted to the hospital.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
He told her eleven o'clock tonight. Now, man said, I
know she's there.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
I brought her myself.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Along with doctor Carroll. Bill Lockwood and I went down
the hall and talked to the nurse who received the
phone call. She told us that she tried to question
the caller as to his name and his relationship to
the leegipation Carla Cheswick, but the man refused and hung up.
We put in a call to R and I and
asked him to run the name for us. There was
no one but that name in the files. We went
back to the doctor's office and started checking through the
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telephone directories. In the northwestern section. We found a listing
for a missus Carla z Chswick on North Capitol Avenue.
We called the number, but there was no answer. Then
we checked with the office, told him what we had
and that we were going to follow through on it.
One eighteen am was only a possibility, but it had
to be checked out. Bill Lockwood and I left Georgia
Street Receiving Hospital, got in the car and drove out
(09:58):
to the address on North Ta app A. Lavenu was
a large apartment house, fairly new. The name on the
mailbox for apartment eighteen was missus Carla Cheswick. We rang
but there was no answer. We finally had to get
the manager out of bed, Missus Herbert. We identified ourselves
and explained the reason for our visit. She got a
pass key, showed us upstairs to the second floor and
let us in apartment eighteen. There was no one there,
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but there was evidence of a recent party within a
matter of hours. Half billed cocktailed glasses, an empty whiskey bottle,
a glass bowl containing partially melted ice cubes. An end
table in the corner has been overturned. In the bedroom,
women's clothing was scattered on the floor and on the
dressing table. On the mantel in the living room there
was a picture of a woman.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
Did you notice anything unusual about her at that time,
as Herbert, I mean, anything out.
Speaker 8 (10:41):
Of the ordinary, Oh, don't think so. She'd been drinking some.
I'm pretty sure of that. That's not unusual for missus
Cheswick drinks quite a bit, parties and things, runs around
a lot.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Yes, you didn't notice anything about her face, No cuts, bruises.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
Anyone, No, nothing like that.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Why you totally?
Speaker 5 (10:55):
She had quite a few men friends.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Do you know any of their names?
Speaker 7 (10:58):
Where they live?
Speaker 3 (10:58):
No cassidy to do.
Speaker 8 (11:00):
She was just run the tenants. I didn't try to
get acquainted and didn't have much in common with there.
The other tenants didn't either. A matter of fact, she
kept pretty much to herself, her and her friends.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
I see now about this party she had last night,
Miss Herbert, you say you don't know who was there
with her?
Speaker 8 (11:15):
No, I'm afraid he don't. When I called her on
the phone to ask her to quiet things down and
I heard that one man's voice talking, that's about all,
though I couldn't tell you who was there.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Was there anyone at all that you know of that
was close to her? I mean someone we could talk
to about her.
Speaker 8 (11:27):
Well, her husband, I suppose he's the only one close
to her. I know he comes around every month and
takes care of the rent.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Kind of peculiar thing.
Speaker 8 (11:34):
But I never questioned it.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
I figured it's their business live and let's live. You
any idea where we can find a husband?
Speaker 6 (11:40):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 8 (11:41):
He works at a machine shop out near Glendale. I
have these home address in my red book downstairs if
you want it, Yes, ma'am.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
We'd like to have that if we could. Would you
happen to know how missus Cheswick and her husband got along?
I mean the separation of there? Was it friendly or
did they still quarrel quite a bit?
Speaker 8 (11:55):
No, as far as I know, they got along all right,
as long as they didn't have to live together.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Mister Cheswick, I.
Speaker 8 (12:00):
Fa sorry for him, gonna take it hard his wife.
I don't know whether to blame or pity or she
was a terrible disappointment to him. That's so I had
a long talk with him once.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Seemed like such a.
Speaker 8 (12:10):
Nice man, hard worker, and his wife he was so disgusted,
I mean, drinking all the time, going out with different men,
bitter disappointment.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
He told me how he felt or did.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
He see violent on the subject, I mean, did he
feel angry toward his wife?
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Just pity.
Speaker 8 (12:23):
Said he'd rather have her dead than go on the
way she was.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
We checked through the dead woman's apartment for names and
addresses of some of our men friends, but we found nothing.
The crew from the crime lab went over the apartment thoroughly.
The only evidence found were fingerprints on some of the
cocktail glasses. Along with the apartment manager, missus Herbert, we
went downstairs and she gave us mister Cheswick's home address
and also his place of employment. Two thirty am we
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got to a phone and called Cheswick's home, but the
people he was staying with told us that he wasn't there.
He was working the all night shift at a farm
implement factory on Glendale Bovard three to five am. The
when I go out to the factory and check with
the Knight person el superintendent, he directed us to the
factory repair shop where Cheswick was employed as a welder.
The foreman at the repair shop pointed him, of course,
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Chadswick was working on the welding line. A tall, thin man,
slight bill Bill Lockwood and I went back and introduced ourselves.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yes, Sarnie Cheswick, that's my name.
Speaker 7 (13:20):
What can I do for you?
Speaker 5 (13:21):
Like to talk to you for a few minutes as
we could. It's about your wife.
Speaker 7 (13:23):
Got on, what's the matter of seeing trouble again.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
It might be better if we can step outside and talk.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
It won't take very long, all right, I gotta finish
up this little job here.
Speaker 7 (13:30):
If you don't mind waiting a couple of bats of tubing,
It won't.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Take a minute.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
And you go right ahead, and am I stand back
a couple of steps.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
This thing pops a little okay, thanks, Ah, too much oxygen?
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Have to light it again?
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Ah? That does it?
Speaker 5 (13:52):
Do?
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Look at the flames go back to your eyes.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
I'm sure in their money, don't they?
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Yeah? I seem while work.
Speaker 7 (14:03):
Fash ther second.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Heir, Okay, that's got it. And what's this about my wife?
Speaker 5 (14:09):
Sergean?
Speaker 3 (14:10):
What's the matter? Well out he's dad. You're separated from her,
missus Keswick.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Yeah, that's right about a year ago now.
Speaker 7 (14:15):
I finally gave it up as a bad job. Wasn't
anything I could do for nothing, anybody could do for hopeless.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Well when's the last time you saw her?
Speaker 5 (14:22):
First of the month went by the payer rent dropped
in to say, hello, that's all I stay away as.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Much as I can.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
No good thumb.
Speaker 7 (14:28):
That's about all you can say about her. James to
admit I was even married, George.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Why do you ask anyway?
Speaker 3 (14:34):
My wife's dead, mister Keswick.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
Huh, you guys, but she died late last night under
Georgia Tree, receiving hostitle.
Speaker 7 (14:41):
Oh, I guess I've been expecting something like that. I
can't feel sorry. Probably the best thing.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
For ither have, but we're not sure. I wonder if
we could step outside, there'll be a lot easier to
talk with it.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Yeah, all right, over here, we can dug out the
back way, o kick.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
You say they found her at Georgia Street or wasn't
cheating an accident?
Speaker 3 (15:09):
So it doesn't look like that. We're gonna have to
wait for the coroner's report. What time do you check
in at night for word?
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Mister Cheswick, you're supposed to be on the job by
ten o'clock.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
I punched in before that tonight. Why a routine question?
I suppose have been around the planet with us for
you check in at ten and you've been here ever since. Yeah,
that's right.
Speaker 7 (15:23):
You can ask any of them. What's the pitch you
think I had something to do with her Charlie getting killed?
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Well, we didn't say that, Jeswick. Your wife's dead and
we have to check out all the leads, all the
possible suspect.
Speaker 7 (15:31):
Well, I don't know how it happened, but I didn't
have anyone. I lived nine years with her. Well, I
was just nine years of my life, booze parties, going
out all the time.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
She wasn't no wife.
Speaker 7 (15:40):
She didn't know what the word meant.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
I understand she's been running around with different men lately.
Do you have to know any of them?
Speaker 7 (15:44):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (15:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (15:45):
I couldn't care less. Stupid dame sergeant, and she's just
wait and let her off. I try to make a
go of it, wasn't any good. I worked for her,
try to give her everything she wanted. Didn't make any difference.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Yeah, she's a bum Some.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Of them must be born that way.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Bumm dame.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
I could have killed her.
Speaker 7 (16:01):
I had reason enough to.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
I didn't.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
How about your wife's drinking habit? Shed do most of
it at home?
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Or did you go out the bars? Always at the bar?
Speaker 7 (16:08):
Only one place she ever went to, place on naighthan Rosewood,
right on the corner.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
Went there all the.
Speaker 7 (16:12):
Time, six seven nights a week, hang over the bottle
all night. I would like to put up with that
for nine years and drinking, going off somewhere and weekend
I'll come.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
It lasted that long, Cheswick, I don't know. I guess
I should have had my head examined.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Just the bomb, I figured I could change her.
Speaker 7 (16:28):
Kept trying that were worked out. After drinking, she'd have
these terrific headaches, would make her sick. I'd stay home
from work and take care of her, wait on her
hand and foot. She always made promises, not.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Even a liar.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Since she got well, she just got it all.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Over again, the same.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
Yeah, the bomb, tramp.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
No good at all, no good.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
There was a tramp, no good tramp.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Chadwick Lester Chesswick is the all what you do?
Speaker 8 (17:00):
Brother?
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Is there right? When the dead women's husband, nas Cherswick recovered,
we continued questioning him, but we got nowhere. Before we
left the plant, we checked his time card, talked to
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the machine shop foreman and some of the men Cheswick
worked with. We got the same story all along the line.
Chesswick had showed up for work at nine forty six
pm the night before and had not left the plant
since that time. Four thirty five am, Bella and I
got in the car, drove back to the office and
typed up a fifteen point seven report for Captain Morman.
Eight thirty am over in the County Morgue, the body
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of Missus Cheswick was being posted. A few minutes past
ten am, Bill Lockwood and I drove out to a
bar in the corner of Eighth and Rosewood, the same
bar where Ernest Cheswick told us his wife did most
of her drinking with the typical neighborhood cocktail lounge in
the early morning. Two customers slipping beer at the bar
into the bar, the manager busy washing glasses and bringing
in supplies. We call them over and identify ourselves.
Speaker 7 (18:06):
Popular girl, I don't any Cheswick.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
They're separated now.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Yeah. Do you know she was in here last night?
Speaker 5 (18:11):
That's right, she was hardly missus Knight.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Why would you have to know about what time she
left last night?
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Eight eight thirty? About that mine asked that front of
their Downtana.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
By no better than May.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
How's that he left with us?
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the manager of the Cotail Lounge pointed out the man
at the end of the bar who was supposed to
have left the place shortly after eight o'clock the night
before with the dead woman. Karla Cheswick, Lockwood and I
went up to the man, identified ourselves and questioned him briefly.
He appeared tense and highly nervous.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
He told us his name was John Gables, an assistant
sales manager for a downtown jewelry concern. He didn't deny
that he was in the bar the night before, but
he refused to admit that he left with missus Cheswick.
He insisted he didn't even know her. We asked him
to a comper how he spent his time the night before,
but he refused. We got in the car and drove
downtown to the City Hall while Bill took the suspect
(20:26):
of the interrogation room. I stopped by the R and
I conner and had to make a run on Gables.
He had no previous criminal record. I called him more,
but there was no report on the autopsy yet. Ten
fifty two am I signed in at the office, brief
Captain Larmon on the developments, and then I haded down
the hall for the interrogation room.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
We had a couple of drinks together and that's all
it was. Too It didn't ask anybody who was there.
She got up and weft by herself.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
I didn't go with it.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
Jil he was just telling me, you did see missus
Cheswick in the bar last night. I had a couple
of drinks with her.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Why'd you hold out, gable? Why couldn't you told us
that when we asked.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
Him, I didn't remember. Then you came up to me
and the bar started asking questions. I got old, rattled,
could make any different? So I didn't even know her name,
said those couple of drinks with him. Then she got
up and left, that's all. I didn't go out with it.
And the bartender says you did. You're sure of it,
says you can get half of it as another people
to back him up, he's wrong, He's gotta be. He's
thinking of somebody else.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
But if you didn't leave the bar with lis Cherswick,
when did you leave? I don't know.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
About five or ten minutes later, I get where'd you go?
Then I walked around a little bit, got little fresh air,
and I went to a show, which one I don't
remember the name of the place. So n rose with
a couple of blocks down from the bar.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
The pictures, you see. I'm not sure.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
I had a couple of drinks.
Speaker 7 (21:33):
I went to the movies.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
You don't even know what you saw.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
I told you I had a.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
Couple of drinks, feeling pretty good. I just don't remember
that song. Not much of an hour bar gave us
talking about it.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
I don't mean Alabama's dead, mister, you were with her
the last time she was seen alive.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
It wasn't with her. I don't care what anybody tells you.
I wasn't with this movie.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
You say you went to what times you get.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Out after midnight? I think I don't remember whe'd you
go after that?
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Bar?
Speaker 5 (21:53):
Had a few more drinks, and then I went back
to my hotel. Which bar was a place on West Seventh.
I'd go there sometimes another bar tend.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
What time did you leave there?
Speaker 5 (22:01):
Closing time two o'clock? And then I went back to
my hotel.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
You say you know the bartender there. I guess he'd
be glad to vouch for you. I mean that you
were there when you said you were. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Maybe not.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
He was pretty busy last night. Maybe didn't notice me.
How about your hotel, the desk clerk, somebody like that,
they should be able to tell.
Speaker 7 (22:15):
What time you got in.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
Don't you think, oh, they wouldn't know. I always carry
my key with me I'd go in the side door.
They wouldn't know what time.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
I got in. What are you trying to sell? Mistake?
Speaker 5 (22:23):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (22:23):
You knocked around top from eight o'clock last night till
past two o'clock this morning. You can't think of anyone
that couldvouch for you where you were, what time you
got there, what time you left?
Speaker 4 (22:30):
I can't think of anybody right now.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
I don't take down names and addresses every time somebody
looks at me. What's the difference?
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Anyway?
Speaker 5 (22:35):
I didn't have anything to do with a girl.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
This difference Gables the attendant at the hospital. He got
a good look at the man who came in and
asked for that wheelchair. He gave us some man's description
that fits you pretty close.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
So what it doesn't mean the thing? He could make
a mistake too, Just like that bartender.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
They're all wrong with You's what you're trying to say.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
Look, as far as I'm concerned, I only got one
thing to say. I had a couple of drinks with
Carl last night. That's all. She left by herself. I
didn't even go near the apartment.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Did you know she had an apartment?
Speaker 5 (22:56):
Well, you told me you said, so you know, we
didn't say anything like that. I guess I heard around
the bar. Maybe she mentioned to me. Yeah, that's probably it.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Why don't you come off at Gable?
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Come off what.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
I don't even know what you're getting, and we want.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
A straight story and we're not getting it. You told
us she didn't even know the chair with women before
last night. You didn't even know her name.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
And whyn't you say Carla? Just a minute ago you
said I had a couple drinks with Carlin. I say
that that's what you said.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
Maybe I just hadn't remembered. I was drinking quite a
bit talking to him. Maybe I just remembered it. Won't
do Gable story doesn't know water?
Speaker 3 (23:23):
How about it?
Speaker 5 (23:24):
I don't know. I was drinking quite a bit, A
lot of things I don't remember.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
How about given it to a straight What do you remember?
Speaker 5 (23:30):
I thought about it, thought about it all night. The
more I went over, the worst it got. I just
couldn't remember. I knew what it did sound like in court,
I couldn't tell it.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Then you couldn't tell what.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
I didn't kill her. I didn't even touch it. You
gotta believe that you know. I left the bar where
they're about eight fifteen, eight thirty. She invited me up
to her apartment. She was pretty well gone. He had
quite a few drinks, got there and had some more
to drink, and Carla got up and started for the
kitchen to get some more ice. She tripped, I think
stumbled a little bit, and then she fell down. I
think that's the way.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
It was all right, go on.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
She tried to get up and then she fell again.
Wasn't a bad fallow. I figured she just passed out,
got some cold towels, ice wood. I tried to bring
her around. It wasn't any good. She was white as
a sheet. I got scared. I didn't know what happened.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
What did you do that?
Speaker 5 (24:12):
I don't remember. I just kept trying to bring her around.
I don't remember any of it very well. I don't
even know why she fell down. You think you could
have hit her gable? You think maybe that's why she
fell down. No, I don't know. I don't think so.
I don't think I was mad at her for anything.
I think we were having a pretty good time. I
just don't remember, that's all. I'm not sure about any
of it well. Boo was no good at all.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Did you kill her? Gable?
Speaker 5 (24:35):
No, it's serge, and I swear it. As far as
I can remember, I didn't. We were having a good time,
that's all I know. I know I wasn't mad, not
a nasty drunk, not as far as I can remember. Anyway,
What did you do when you couldn't revive missus Cheswick?
You brought her to the hospital. Yeah, the shape I
was in, I couldn't figure anything else to do. I
got her in the car, drove down to Georgia Street
and put her in the elevator, pressed the button and
sent her up. I'm a married man, you know. I
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didn't want any scandal and didn't want to get involved.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
He didn't kill her. That what you want us to believe.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
I don't know what to tell you. I don't remember
if I killed her. I think i'd know it. I'm
sure I would.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
I just don't remember.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Probably got it interrogation room Friday time. Yea, Arthur, that's uh,
this is a second. I got a pencil on going.
Be sure. How was that? I see? No possibility? Yeah,
(25:30):
I see okay, Arthur, thanks a lot. Yeah, sure, we'll
pick it up later. Bye. Bye. Yeah, Joe Corner's report
just finished. The autopsy. Sorry, Gable, huh sorry, it's all
cleared up.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
What do you mean, Well, you're free to go if
you like.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
We're not gonna hold you. What was it? Pitched Joe
Corner's report. Primary cause of death was a massive cerebral hemorrhage.
Hemorrhage into the ventricle.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
Could have been a blowing the head, couldn't it.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
You figured I could have done it.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
No. Secondary cause was a brain tumor, a big one.
Corner says, She's had it for years, must have caught
for a lot of pain. Probably would have count it
for the drinking and the tumor.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
Wrote on the hemorrhage that's what killed her.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
That's it, Horner says. Erosion of the blood vessel by
a brain tumor probably grew, caused pressure on a blood
vessel finally gave way, caused the hemorrhage and the killer
and she just died.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
Hadn't have anything to do with it. She died and
I didn't kill.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Her, Yes, sir, that's try and feel free to go
if you want.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Thank God.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
You know of says, I'll tell you the truth. I
didn't know the answer. I didn't know if I killed
he or not.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
I really didn't.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Drinking so much, I came to and there she was dead.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
I didn't know what happened. I really didn't. I didn't
know the answer.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
No, you went up on this gable. Huh. We thought
we did.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
The star you have just heard was true. The names
were changed to protect the innocent.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
On Thursday, November tenth, the meeting was held in the
office of Captain a homicide in a moment the results
of that meeting.
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With the filing of the official autopsy report by the
county coroner, John Gables was cleared of all charges. He
was released from custody immediately. The death of missus Carla
Cheswick was listed as due to natural causes by the Coroner's.
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