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Speaker 4 (01:54):
In action.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Was money.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
March eighteenth was overcast in Los Angeles. We were working
a night watch out, a homicide detail. My partner's Frank Smith.
The boss's Captain Mormon.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
My name is Friday.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
It was six forty eight pm when we got to
the corner of eleventh in South Pierce Street, the seven
ninety seven o' club.
Speaker 6 (02:15):
Sorry, no more.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Service than I closing up. You're name Leon Morley.
Speaker 6 (02:18):
Yeah, I can't serve you any drinks, so closing.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Out police officers.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Mister Morley like, talk to you a minute if you
don't mind.
Speaker 6 (02:23):
Oh, I'm sorry. I thought maybe you're after a drink.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
We were just talking to the officers in the radio
car up the street, the car that answered the call
out here tonight. They told us you were one of
the people who saw what happened. Well, yeah, I guess
I did. I saw part of.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
It anyway, lollsy deal kind of thing makes your ulcers pop.
That's why I'm closing down early going home.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
We're following through in the investigation.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
Mister Morley, like to have you tell us everything you
know about it, if you would, everything that you saw.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
I told the cops in the radio car everything I know.
It was about six o'clock and I heard this big
commotion out on the street. I didn't know what it was.
Sounded like somebody was hurt. I went out and took
a look Marie in the beauty shop next door. She
was outside rubbernecking too. She saw as much as I did.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
You talk to her, Yes, sure we have. She was
too clear on some of the details. Maybe you can
stream it out for us.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
I'm glad to if I can. What do you wanna know?
You mind telling us in your own words, just exactly
how it happened, I mean, how you saw it.
Speaker 6 (03:08):
Well, it's not an awful lot to it. I was
working behind the bar here. It was around six o'clock,
like I say, maybe a couple of minutes after. I
was just fixing up a round of drinks for some
fellas when I heard this noise outside. Yeah, didn't know
what it was at first. Sounded like somebody screaming, like
ever heard and.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Said you heard this promotion outside of the bar about
six o'clock.
Speaker 6 (03:25):
Yeah, that's right. Well I didn't go out right then.
I finished mixing the round of drinks. First I thought
the racket was just a couple of early drunks. But
it kept on, man screaming. It got louder, and I
decided to take a look. I went out and looked
down the street. A couple of doors down to the corner.
Which corners that was more the nearest one down to
the left.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Here, I'll show you all.
Speaker 6 (03:44):
I fine, I didn't know what was happening. It was
terrible sound, man screaming at the top of his lungs.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
You recognized who the man was? No, I didn't.
Speaker 6 (03:52):
Never saw him before. Didn't get too little look at
him anyway. It was getting kind of dark.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Here.
Speaker 6 (03:56):
Let me show you over here by the window.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (04:01):
I see. It was right down there, just next to
the mailbox. But these two guys had a hold of
the man who was screaming. They were trying to drag
him into a car, gray set and man was trying
to fight him off.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Can you describe any of these three men for us?
Speaker 6 (04:13):
No, I couldn't be sure about it. Like I say,
it was getting kind of dark. Well, you can see
for yourself. They were about seventy five hundred feet away.
This man they were trying to drag into the car.
He kept screaming, leave me alone, you can have the money,
Leave me alone, you can have my car.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Looked like he was hurt to me, blood on his clothes.
Didn't anybody try to help him?
Speaker 6 (04:29):
Well, you know how this neighborhood is. When there's trouble,
they all cut out. They don't wanna get involved. Happened
pretty fast anyway. These two guys got this man in
the back seat of the car, and the big guy
got in the back seat with him. The smaller guy
got in the front seat, and they took off.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Uh which way they go, mister Morley?
Speaker 7 (04:44):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (04:45):
Straight down the street there, turned right at that corner.
Chappened to see the license number, No, I thought of
it though. They didn't turn the car lights on, and
went by pretty fast too. I couldn't get a good
look at it.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Was it a California plate? Do you know?
Speaker 7 (04:57):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (04:57):
Yeah, I noticed that much. That's about all of what
car was it? Like I told you, Gracie Dan Fodor,
I couldn't tell him make fairly new car.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Well, do you notice anything out standing about the car?
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Anything at all?
Speaker 6 (05:08):
Well, I don't know what do you mean outstanding?
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Well, special markings of any kind of anything unusual. Maybe
some of the accessory spotlight, anything like that.
Speaker 6 (05:15):
No, nothing, I noticed. The rear bumper was bent out,
I think. A matter of fact, I'm pretty.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Sure of a rear bumper.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
Yeah, I saw it when they drove off. Uh, they
drove right past the place here.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
How about the men, sir? Can you describe them at all?
Speaker 7 (05:27):
No?
Speaker 6 (05:27):
One was pretty tall and thin. The other one was smaller,
about the same bill on the fin side. They sure
must have worked that guy over. He was all bent over,
looked like he was holding his stomach. Stains all down
in the front of his suit on the sidewalk too.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
I guess you saw that, Yes.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Sir, we did.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
Well, you're sure that you've never seen any of these
men before.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Nothing familiar about him at all.
Speaker 6 (05:44):
No, sir, not to me. I think if I saw
him before, i'd know it. Oh, just a man. That's
probably the wife. Excuse me, maybe right.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Back, Yes, sir, what do you think Jim brought us all?
Speaker 5 (05:52):
Look too good? Stains on the sidewalk down there. If
it was just a robbery, why did they take the
guy with him?
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Yeah? Me, he possibly might have recognized him.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
I don't know if you got I'm going. I hope
you're wrong.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
If you can make the hood, it's good chance you're
not going to turn the man loose alive, sergeant.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
Yeah, uh, it's your office on the phone. I want
to talk to either one of you. I'll get it
you right, thanks, thrown straight back, sergeant, enter the bar. Okay, then, look, sergeant,
I gotta have something to quiet my nerves.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
How about you? You want to drink it?
Speaker 6 (06:15):
You don't know?
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Thanks.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
Besides the woman in that beauty shop next door, mister Morley,
do you notice anyone else around who saw.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
What went on?
Speaker 8 (06:21):
No?
Speaker 6 (06:22):
As far as I know, Marie and I were the
only ones. Just like I told you, when there's any
trouble around this neighborhood, they.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Get off the street quick. You can't think of anything else.
It might give us a break on there's anything at all?
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Now? Wish I could?
Speaker 6 (06:32):
I think I told you just about everything.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Sure feel lousy?
Speaker 6 (06:36):
Sure?
Speaker 7 (06:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (06:38):
I was talking to Harry.
Speaker 7 (06:39):
You know.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
One a one found the car great sedan where'd they
find it? Thirden Beixel look was empty, key still in it.
Sure it's the right car. Blood stains in the back seat.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
Seven eighteen pm, Brank and I left the seven ninety
seven Club, got in the car and drove down to
Third and Bexel, where the abandoned gray Sedan had been located.
The same general description of the abductor's car, a four
door gray Sadan late model with the dammy's rear bumper.
Dean Bergmann from Layton Prince dusted the car and succeeded
in raising a half a dozen fingerprints, which he took
back to the office for possible identification. The crime lab
(07:14):
crew went over the car for additional physical evidence. The
stains found on the back seat were identified as having
been made by human blood. The white slip attached to
the steering post showed the car was registered to a Kennethel.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Gorman at a Canal Street address. Before Frank and.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
I left the scene, we got a report that, approximately
twenty minutes prior to the time the gray Sa'dan had
been located, another car had been stolen, but it was
a maroon late model Club coup licensed seven Toms seven
nine seven two. It had been taken in the same neighborhood,
less than two blocks from where the gray sedan was abandoned.
A broadcast and an APB was gotten out on it
immediately eight o five pm. After checking by the office,
(07:52):
Frank and I drove down to check on the home
address of the registered owner of the gray Sadan, Kennethel Gorman.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
It was a white wood framed cottage at the upper
end of cane El Street.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
The woman who answered the door identified herself with missus
Elsie Gorman, a small, middle aged woman, blue eyes, partially
gray hair.
Speaker 8 (08:07):
No, I'm sorry, it's just my husband isn't home right now.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Where is he, missus Gorman?
Speaker 8 (08:11):
You know, well he went downtown to see a friend
of his business appointment. Is it anything I can to
help you with?
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Are you expecting your husband home pretty soon?
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Ma'am? Yes, I am.
Speaker 8 (08:19):
A matter of fact, he should have been home long
before this. I don't know what's keeping him. Told me
he was going downtown to collect some money. A friend
of his owed him said he'd be right back. I
don't know what could be keeping him.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
When do you leave the house, ma'am?
Speaker 8 (08:31):
About two thirty three o'clock this afternoon. It's almost eight
thirty now he could be stop to have a beer
with his friends. Usually phones though he's going to be laid.
Speaker 6 (08:41):
I don't understand these men.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Sometimes you and your husband own a car, Missus Gorman.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
Yes we do.
Speaker 8 (08:47):
My husband has it right now.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Why what kind of a car is it, ma'am?
Speaker 8 (08:50):
A forty nine Chevy Sedan.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
Gray color, four door, Yes, license number seventy seven ninety
seven two.
Speaker 8 (08:57):
Well, yes, I think that's it. Why, it's no matter
if something happened, nothing to get.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Worried about, Missus Gorman. We located the car in the
downtown area, parked on the side street. The keys were
still in it. Thought we checked on it. Where was
it part your third and Bixel.
Speaker 8 (09:10):
Well that can't be right. This man my husband is
going to see as his store on Alameda. It's on
Alameda between ninth and tenth. No reason for Kenneth to
drive the car away down on third Street.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Possibly he might have had another business appointment down there, ma'am.
Maybe something he didn't mention to you.
Speaker 7 (09:24):
Well, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (09:26):
I suppose it is possible.
Speaker 8 (09:28):
You'd think he'd call, though he usually does when he's
going to be out laid like this.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
What about this man your husband was going to see
missus Gorman? Yeap, know who he is?
Speaker 8 (09:35):
Yes, Fred Bernard. He's in the sheet metal business, has
his shop on South Alameda. He owed my husband three
hundred dollars. My husband went down this afternoon to collect it.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Are you a friend of your husband's?
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Is he?
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (09:46):
Yes, they're good friends.
Speaker 7 (09:47):
Fred, and my husband has done business for years.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
There wasn't any ill feeling between them about this step. No, no,
of course not.
Speaker 7 (09:53):
It was just a bill for some materials. Why do
you ask that?
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Just routine questions, ma'am?
Speaker 5 (09:59):
Can you think of any at all who might have
a quarrel with your husband, somebody who has a grudge
against him?
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Me?
Speaker 8 (10:04):
No, Why are you asking questions like that? There's something wrong,
something you're not telling me about.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
No, man, it's just a routine check in his garman,
nothing to worry about. I want to make sure everything's
all right.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
That's all the way you talk.
Speaker 7 (10:15):
It isn't all right.
Speaker 8 (10:16):
It's far from right. And it's never gone this long
without calling me. There must be something wrong.
Speaker 9 (10:22):
I know.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
It's getting yourself all worked up.
Speaker 7 (10:24):
Man.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
You admit your husband might have had another appointment after
he left Bernard.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
By the way, have you checked with mister Bernard, Gt, ma'am, no,
to tell you the truth I happened.
Speaker 8 (10:31):
I don't usually like to call my husband when he's
out on business. I don't like to bother him.
Speaker 7 (10:37):
This is different, though.
Speaker 8 (10:38):
I think I'll call Fed Bernard right now.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
It's a good idea. Do you mind if we wait there?
Speaker 8 (10:42):
No?
Speaker 5 (10:42):
No, not at all.
Speaker 8 (10:43):
It will wonly take me a minute.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Excuse me, yes, ma'am.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
What do you think?
Speaker 3 (10:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Doesn't look too good that the car's abandoned, stains in
the back seat, man's lake and getting home, it's all
there could be anything, but it doesn't look good. Guardian, yes, ma'am.
I just talked to Fed Benard.
Speaker 8 (10:59):
He said, my husband's been then left.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
What time did he leave Bernard's About three fifteen three thirty.
Speaker 8 (11:04):
Fred Bernard paid my husband the three hundred dollars.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
He owed him, and my husband left.
Speaker 8 (11:08):
Fred told me my husband asked him if he wouldn't
have a glass of beer with him, but Fred said no,
he was busy.
Speaker 7 (11:13):
So my husband said all right, he was going to have.
Speaker 6 (11:15):
A beer at home.
Speaker 7 (11:17):
Told Freddy was going right?
Speaker 5 (11:18):
Home.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
That was a three fifteen this afternoon.
Speaker 8 (11:21):
There must be something wrong.
Speaker 7 (11:22):
I know it.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
It just isn't like my husband.
Speaker 8 (11:24):
He wouldn't leave the car like that.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
If he was late, at.
Speaker 8 (11:28):
Least he'd call me. Oh, would you excuse me again?
I've had the dinner on the stove and boil a
weight and nothing. I want to turn it off.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Yes, man, go right ahead. I hope it works out
all right. It seems like a nice one.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Yeah, she does.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Sure, it doesn't figure, does is?
Speaker 7 (11:42):
It?
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Plenty of time to get home, No reason why he shouldn't.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
Be here, but this time, well I can think of
two yeah, an empty car and three hundred dollars. We
continued interviewing the wife of the missing man, Kenneth Gorman,
and she told us that occasionally he did some drinking
at neighborhood bars. He also told us that when her
husband drank quite a bit in public places, he was
over friendly and he liked to brag and flash money.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Missus Gorman got on.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
The phone contacted all their friends and relatives who happened
to be home, but none of them had seen or
heard from mister Gorman that day before Frank and I left.
Missus Gorman gave us a complete description of her husband,
the clothing he was wearing, and also a recent photograph
of him.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
We called Fred Bernard, the friend.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
Of the missing man, the last known person to see him,
and told him that we'd like to talk to him.
He told us that he was working late getting out
a rush order, and that we could find him in
his shop.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Nine oh five pm. We located Bernard at his shop
on South Alameda.
Speaker 7 (12:35):
Won't take long, we'll it't know for Rushton, I won't
take long, sir.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Did mister Gorman give you any idea of where he
was going when he left here this afternoon?
Speaker 6 (12:42):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (12:42):
Just like I told his wife on the phone. I
paid him the money I owed him.
Speaker 9 (12:45):
He asked me if I wanted a beer, took a
rain check on and he left, went right out that door.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
There. He seemed worried about anything, mister Gorman.
Speaker 7 (12:51):
We all not that I could see, seemed aright to me.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Had he been drinking?
Speaker 7 (12:54):
You know, all couldn't say he was. I couldn't smell
it on him.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Is there anything unused when about him?
Speaker 7 (12:59):
At all?
Speaker 4 (12:59):
And if out of the ordinary?
Speaker 7 (13:00):
We always saying old Ken pretty good mood. When I
paid him at three hundred dollars cash. He's all dressed up.
I guess you might call that unusual.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
How do you mean unusual?
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (13:09):
Ken's like me, working man, not much of a dresser.
Usually find him in working clothes. I think it's the
second time I ever saw him in his suit. A
new one too, look nice on him.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
He didn't give you any indication.
Speaker 7 (13:19):
At all where he might be going, did he No,
he just collected his money and went out. I thought
maybe he was going home. I want him as Garman,
tell you. Didn't you have any idea where he is now?
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Since she told us he came down here to collect
some money, she expected him right home. We're not trying
to be noisy, mister Bernard. But how do Gorman and
his wife get along? They're pretty happy together.
Speaker 9 (13:36):
Yes, I guess you might say that get along as
well as you could expect him to.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
What do you mean by that?
Speaker 7 (13:43):
Ken's well, he's a fellow who likes his night life.
Wife's just the opposite, quiet type. Almost left him, was?
I guess they're getting along pretty good now though?
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Why she almost leave?
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Hi?
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Would you have me to know?
Speaker 7 (13:53):
Well? I should find him out with a girlfriend. Matter
of fact, she caught him at a terrible row. Didn't
understand any of it. The girlfriend wasn't much, he said, oh,
real Lutch, you know.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
The girl's name, and.
Speaker 7 (14:02):
Yeah, I met her twice names he laying something and
as she works at a cafe three boxers here.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Real Lutch, he sure took me. You know if Rumman's
been seeing her.
Speaker 9 (14:10):
Lately, and he says he hasn't been, and I never
can't tell when he's drinking though.
Speaker 7 (14:15):
Didn't his wife mentioned the girl at all?
Speaker 4 (14:18):
I guess you wouldn't.
Speaker 7 (14:19):
It's been a terrible thing for her when she found out.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Terrible. How long ago was all this, mister Bernard, I mean,
that's a fair arman half of this girl.
Speaker 7 (14:26):
Oh six weeks maybe two months ago?
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Just about that, I tell you it.
Speaker 7 (14:30):
Was the greatest thing I ever saw.
Speaker 9 (14:32):
Kenn has a nice, quiet wife, visit home and they
get along fine together and never fought, never quurl and
he picks up with his girly lane.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Sure different, how's that?
Speaker 7 (14:41):
Real mean girl? Two of them fought all the time.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
Nine we left Fred Bernard at his shop, go to
the restaurant where Gorman's girl friend reportedly was working as
a Wakers and we checked with the manager. He told
us a girl that the name of Elaine summer All had.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Been employed there, but that she'd been fired for drinking
on the jo.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
He also told us that he had reason to suspect
that Elaine summer All was not the girl's true name.
We showed the cafe manager a picture of mister Gorman
and he identified it. He said Gorman had been in
that afternoon inquiring about the Summer All Girl. Gorman had
asked for the girl's forwarding address, but the manager told
us that he'd thrown it away. We left our card
with him and asked him to contact us immediately in
the event the girl returned ten eighteen pm, we drove
(15:24):
back to the City Hall and checked in at the office.
We ran the name and description of the summer All
Girl through R and I, and they told us they
had a summer All Girl in the files who answered
the description Elaine summer All alias Elene o'donald alias Elaine Shellman.
There were wants out on her for forgery three counts
and grand theft merchandise. We signed out of the office,
went across the street to the Federal Cafe and had
(15:45):
a sandwich and a cup of coffee.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Wouldn't luck to us if it wasn't for the stage.
They found the back sea that car, it's hard.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
To get around at points to more and robbery didn't
look m moltcher strikes me pretty funny pulling the man
out the street like.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
That must be either hard up or crazy. Huh okay,
thanks frank Yeah right, thank you.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
I'll be right back, frankly.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Yeah, Friday talking. Yeah, m m hm, where how long ago?
Speaker 5 (16:15):
Yeah, I see h there wasn't huh yeah, we'll roll
on it right now. Tell them we're on our way
and yeah right, thanks guying bye, Yeah, Chandler. They just
found the maroon coop, the one stolen in the neighborhood
where Gormans was dropping where they find it, picked it
off going up through Lancaster Sheriff's deputies.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Does it looked good on our job?
Speaker 5 (16:34):
Well, there were two men in the car when of
them had a knife, bloodstains on their clothes all over
the inside.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Of the car. How's it figure?
Speaker 3 (16:40):
It doesn't not a scratch on either.
Speaker 6 (16:41):
One of them.
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Speaker 5 (18:17):
Monday March eighteenth, ten forty pm, after we received the
report that the stolen maroon coop along with the two suspects,
had been recovered north of the city.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
In the town of Lancaster, Frank.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
And I stopped by the record bureau and checked to
see if there was a make on either one of
the suspects. The first one, Paul Mike white male American
thirty two years, five foot, eleven hundred and fifty pounds,
brown hair, brown eyes. He had a long felony record,
including burglary and robbery. He'd serve sentences in both San
Quentin and Fulsom and there was a want on him
for violation of parole. The second suspect, Floyd Compton, white
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male American, thirty four years, five foot, eight hundred and
thirty five pounds, black hair, brown eyes. His record included
arrests on suspicion of burglary, four grand theft, merchandized, and
three drunk arrests. He was a petty thief known to
us as a shoplifter.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
He'd never served time in a penitentiary. Ten fifty five
p m.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
Frank and I, with identifying photographs of the two suspects,
left the city.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
And drove north.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
We checked in at the Lancaster Sheriff's Office sub station.
Captain Walker Hannon briefed us on the details of the arrest,
and then he showed us back to the cell block where.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
The two suspects were being held.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
He told us neither of the men had been questioned
because the officers there weren't acquainted with the facts of
the case. He also informed us both men had been
separated from the time of their apprehension.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Captain Hannon had Paul Mike taken from.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
His cell and it was brought to the Captain's office
where we started to question him.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
It went slow.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
I don't think I understands you, sergeant. What's all excited about.
You can answer that better than we can. Mike answer
what what do you want to know?
Speaker 7 (19:43):
The car?
Speaker 5 (19:43):
Mic, the blood stains? What about them a little unusual?
Wouldn't you say? I don't know anything about any blood stains.
If they're in the car, I don't know how they
got there, isn't Mike, car, we know that. What about
the stains in your clothes? I don't know they were
sitting in the car there. Maybe the stains drove.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Both on us.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
You got a cigarette. Only one thing wrong with that story, Mike.
That stands around the wrong side of you, all right.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
So I had a fight, got hit in the nose.
What's that a log against it? I gotta hunch, Mike, Yeah,
you're lion.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
What'd you get that car?
Speaker 5 (20:08):
I told you where I got it. Me and kappan
abut the ride on San Fernando Road. This book came
along the maroon coop and gave us a ride a
couple of miles this side of the Lancaster. Stopped the
car and got out so you'd be right back. Walked
right out into the desert.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Waited for him to come back, waited a long time,
hawked the horn, yelled for him.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
We finally gave it up.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Matter of fact, Compton and me got a little scared.
Thought maybe the car was stolen. I didn't want to
get caught in a hot car. I'm an next con.
I couldn't stand the heat. The truth I'm squaring with you.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
What about the money, Mike, huh?
Speaker 4 (20:38):
The money?
Speaker 3 (20:38):
It booked you in with one hundred and thirty three
dollars in your pocket.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
Oh yeah, I got luck in the crap game last night.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
I was pulling out.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
How about the pocket knife?
Speaker 5 (20:46):
Blood stains on it? You win that in the crap
game too? No, matter of fact, it was in the car,
found it right there on the seat.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Big coincidence, Mike. Somebody leads you a car. Blood stains
on the inside, stains on you and your partner. Pocket
knife stains on that too. You're on parole, leaving town
without notice. I think a car you're not supposed to
be driving, pocket full of money. You got no way
of accounting for it. Face at, Mike, what do you mean?
Face it?
Speaker 7 (21:05):
You're dead?
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Flag in your card? Now a barol officer, once you know?
How about the truth?
Speaker 5 (21:09):
What do you mean the truth?
Speaker 3 (21:10):
I've told you to you not Come on, Let's save
time for all of us. Mike. You've been around long enough,
you've graduated. You know we're not going to buy that line?
Speaker 2 (21:16):
What line?
Speaker 5 (21:17):
How can I explain things to you? Won't believe me?
I told you nothing but the truth since I walked
into this room, and you won't believe me.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
You got a cigarette?
Speaker 3 (21:23):
How do you account for the blood in your shirt?
Speaker 5 (21:25):
I told you I had to fight guy me in
the nose. Happened right down there in La You can
check it.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Where did it happen? Bar? Downtown?
Speaker 5 (21:31):
There's a lot of bars downtown place in South Pierce.
I go there sometimes it's the name of it. Seven
ninety seven club. Ask anybody in there. You said it
happened tonight?
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Yeah, about eight o'clock, just before we cut out. Got
hit me right on the nose, real rough one.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
You got a cigarette?
Speaker 3 (21:46):
What times you say you had that fight?
Speaker 4 (21:47):
About eight o'clock?
Speaker 7 (21:48):
Sure of that?
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Sure what?
Speaker 3 (21:50):
You're not doing too well, Mike. Now it's the matter.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
We were at the seven ninety seven club tonight. We
talked to the owner, so we were there at six
thirty five. You locked the place up and went home
at six forty five, seven ninety seven o clock. Yeah,
that's right. Now, where were you at the time of
the robbery? I want an attorney. I'm not saying anything else.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Trying to frame me. Take me back to myself any
way you want it, Mike, let's go.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
Once they just tell him the truth and they don't
believe you.
Speaker 7 (22:14):
How about that?
Speaker 4 (22:14):
See that, cap mean if you have a day of
return that want to bring him captain m How about
that he couldn't tell the truth of it? Helped you?
I hope we do better with his partner. We're gonna
have to. We know we're on the right track. The
big question is where they done with Gorman, big guests,
thousand places. They could have dumped him between here in La.
I hate to make a book on his chances. Everything
(22:35):
points to a killing donner. Mike looks like it one
who can handle it.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
Fun incoming. No, we're here, that's it down. Yeah, my
name's Friday. This is Smith, my partner. I branch out
of your class. Haven't you come running in the big
time here?
Speaker 3 (22:53):
What do you mean?
Speaker 4 (22:54):
We haven't done anything? Robbery, kidnapping, grand theft daughter. You're
moving pretty fast? Did Mike tell you this guy gave
us a ride, He stopped the car and walked away.
We didn't steal the car. Thought the guy was lost.
We drove in here to get help. Let's take it
from the top. Where'd you spend the day? Who were
you with? Mike? He stayed overnight with me. Both slept
through about two o'clock, got something eaton, went to a show,
got out about five.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
What'd you do?
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Then? I went to this bar downtown. Didn't Mike tell
you you were with him? Weren't you sure I was
with him?
Speaker 5 (23:18):
He'll tell you that he didn't and you didn't do
anything wrong? No, then what are you worrying about Let's
forget Mike.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Now you level with us?
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Were you?
Speaker 4 (23:25):
You're getting it straight. I didn't do anything. Mike says
he can't stand another beef, can't afford it. He's two
up right now.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
I know that we believe him comping. Mike's done too
much time. He couldn't make another trip easy. Do you
think he's telling us the truth?
Speaker 4 (23:37):
Well? Sew him? I what are you getting at anyway?
Speaker 6 (23:40):
All right?
Speaker 5 (23:40):
Now, let's get on a band legging when you can.
We don't need you, Compton. If you talk or not,
it doesn't make any difference.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Just a minute, Can I talk to Mike?
Speaker 2 (23:46):
All right?
Speaker 3 (23:47):
We'll give it a try. Frank, you want to ask him?
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Yeah, okay, you're right back. Now let's pick up where
we left off.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
The blood stain's on your clothes, Stein's inside the car.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Where'd they come from?
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Mike told you? Didn't he? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (23:56):
You tell us?
Speaker 7 (23:57):
What for?
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Why can't I wait till Mike gets here? All right?
Speaker 3 (23:59):
What about them? You want to explain about that?
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Nothing? Explain I saved it.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
What kind of work do you do?
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Job's around town? Any place I can find him?
Speaker 3 (24:06):
You say you got up at two? You had something
to eat. You went to a show and you got.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Out about five o'clock. Is that right? Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Once you go to the seven ninety seven club.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
Right after the show, about five o'clock.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
How long did you stay there?
Speaker 4 (24:16):
About an hour till about six o'clock.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Anything unusual happened when you're in the bar? What do
you mean anything unusual? Anything out of the ordinary.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Oh, Mike and me sat there, talked, had some drinks,
pretty dead place, decided to take off for Reno. Mike's
got a friend up their good friend. But maybe you
get the boath of us jobs compting. Yeah, of course, Mike.
I told him you wanted to talk to him. He
said he didn't want to see you. He think him
out to feed him. Told me to tell you'd see
you in court. Well you mean to see me in court?
(24:43):
I think you got it, count and we told you
we didn't need you. Come on, we're tired. You're gonna
lock yet.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Well what he say?
Speaker 4 (24:48):
What he tell you? All? Luck, fella, we're tired.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
You wanted to go the hard way? All right, you'll
get the answers in court. Well what did he say?
Speaker 7 (24:53):
What do he tell you?
Speaker 6 (24:53):
Come on?
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
You should have known better. Mike's not going to ride
your beef for you.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
He was in it all the way. It's his idea.
It's his beef, not mine, I argued them. I know
he shouldn't have gone along. Crazy. Yeah, come on, it's
the truth. The whole thing's Mike. It's his knife too.
At the guy in some bar and he was real high,
talking about some dame. He was looking for a girlfriend.
Guy bought us a couple of drinks, had a big
roll of bills. Mike flamed the whole thing. You know, Yeah,
he wanted to roll the guy. He left, got in
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the guy's car and drove with him way toward town.
Mike was driving, I didn't know what he was heading for.
All of a sudden, the guy says he wants another drink.
Mike didn't want to stop, but he was making a racket.
Finally pulled up by the seven ninety seven, but we
got out. Then the guy changed his mind. He wants
to go home. Mike tried to talk to him. He
wouldn't listen. Mike pulled a knife and cut him. Then
he slugged the guy in the two was pushed him
in the car and took off.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Where'd you go from there?
Speaker 4 (25:38):
The cruised around till we found another car, myeronn Coop
the cloud of that one, dumped the Gracie Dan and
took off up this way right. Look, it's the truth.
I'll even tell you about the guy. What happened to him?
He got flashlights in your car?
Speaker 3 (25:48):
The man still alive?
Speaker 4 (25:49):
I don't know he was when we left him.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
One am, the Lancaster Sheriff substation contacted the local emergency
ambulance and they were instructed to follow our car along
with the suspect. Floyd Compton. Frank and I got in
the car and headed south following his directions. After several
tries at locating the spot where Mike and Compton supposedly
left their victim, we finally found where they parked their
car on the side of the road. We got out
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and Compton led us back across the stretch of sand
to a thick clump of sage brush about three hundred
yards off the highway. The victim, Kenneth Gorman, was lying
face down.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
His hands and feet were tied together.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
It was fairly evident that he'd lost a good deal
of blood and that he was in a state of
severe shock. He was placed on a stretcher and placed
in the ambulance.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
All right, now, let's said, let's go be real tough, sir,
glad he ain't dead.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Yeah, sure, come on.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
Where we going now? Back to the Sheriff's office.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Want to take your statement?
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Okay with me? Just one thing. I want one more thing. Yeah,
at Lasi, Mike, I want to be there. I want
to see him. I was trying to load this thing
on me. I want to see his face when you
tell him. Can't wait to see it.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Yeah, neither can weave.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
The story you have just heard was true. The names
were changed to protect the innocent.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
On July twelfth, the trial was held in Superior Court,
Department eighty four, City and County of Los Angeles, State
of California. In a moment, the results of that trial,
and now here is our star, Jack Webb.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Thank you, George.
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Speaker 2 (27:49):
Paul Mike and his accomplice Floyd Compton, were filed on
for violation of section two oh nine of the Penal
Code kidnapping for the purpose of robbery and section two
eleven of the Penal Code Robbery and the first degree.
They were also filed on for one count of grand
theft auto. They were tried and convicted and received sentences
as prescribed by law. Kidnapping for the purpose of robbery
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where bodily harm is inflicted, is punishable by the death
sentence or life imprisonment without possibility of parole. Robbery is
punishable by imprisonment from five years to life. Grand theft
auto is punishable by a prison term of not less
than one nor more than ten years. The victim, Kenneth Gorman,
finally recovered after more than three months in the hospital.
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Ladies and gentlemen, next week, Dragnet presents a trilogy three
documented case histories of vital importance to all of us.
This trio of authentic stories is both tragic and terrifying.
Please try to hear Dragnet next week when we present
our trilogy. You have just heard Dragnet, a series of
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authentic cases from official files. Technical advice comes from the
Office of Chief of Police W. H. Parker, Los Angeles
Police Department Technical Advisors, Captain Jack Donaho, Sergeant Marty Winn,
Sergeant Fans Bracio. Heard tonight were Vic Paren Virginia, Greg
Sam Edwards. Script by Jim Mosy, music by Walter Schumann.
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