January 6, 2026 • 26 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Ladies and gentlemen. The story you were about to hear
is true.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
The names have been changed to protect the innocent dragnet.
You're a detective sergeant. You're assigned the homicide detail. A
young man walks into your office and tells you he
wants to give himself up. You don't know if you
(00:31):
can believe his story your job.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Check it out.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
It was Monday, December tenth. It was cold in Los Angeles.
We were working the day watch out, a homicide detail.
My partner is Frank Smith. The boss is Captain Lormon.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
My name's Fry.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
We're on our way back from records and identification. It
was eleven fifteen am when we got your room forty two,
the squadroom.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
Joe, Yeah, Danny kid waiting to see you.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Did we say what he wanted?
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Said he wanted to talk to you and nobody else.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Did give a name?
Speaker 5 (01:02):
No, A nice looking kid.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
All right, we'll talk to him.
Speaker 6 (01:05):
You're right with a Josh at the book all right?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
All right?
Speaker 7 (01:09):
Do you want to see me you, Sergeant Friday?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
That's right? What can I do for you?
Speaker 8 (01:13):
I want to talk to you.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
Nothing on the book job.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
What's your name, sir, Amols Salder Amos is my partner, Frank.
Speaker 7 (01:20):
Smith Clumbus to Smith's I, why did you ask for me?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Well?
Speaker 7 (01:23):
They told me to Who's that the men in that
room across the Hall of Business office?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I see?
Speaker 7 (01:28):
I sure hope you can help me, Sergeant Friday. I'm
in trouble, real bad, all.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Right, So I'll sit down here and you can tell
us about it.
Speaker 7 (01:37):
Go ahead, Well, one thing you should know. I came
in to give myself up.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Is that right?
Speaker 8 (01:44):
I didn't mean to do wrong?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Alright?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
What'd you do?
Speaker 8 (01:48):
Killed a man?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Amo?
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Charles Sawder was eighteen years old, five feet seven and
a half one hundred and thirty seven pounds. He had
light blonde hair and blue He was wearing a tan
windbreaker and tan pants. He looked tired, and he told
us that he hadn't eaten in several hours. We shot
out for some hot coffee and sandwiches. Frank checked his
name and description through R and I, but he found
that he had no record in our files. We asked
(02:13):
him to tell us the story.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Do you know the man he killed? No?
Speaker 8 (02:16):
I never saw him before.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Well how'd you kill him?
Speaker 8 (02:19):
Ran him down in a car?
Speaker 6 (02:21):
No?
Speaker 1 (02:22):
A truck or where'd this happen?
Speaker 9 (02:24):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (02:24):
Coast Highway near Malibu, the Justice side when last night?
I guess it must have been around ten. It should
have been around them, because I left town at eight thirty.
Speaker 8 (02:34):
Took about an hour and a half to drive up there.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Now you sure the man was dead?
Speaker 8 (02:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (02:39):
I looked at him. It wasn't hard to tell.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Did you try to help him at all?
Speaker 10 (02:44):
No?
Speaker 7 (02:44):
As soon as I looked at him, I knew there
wasn't anything I could do with just got back in
the truck and took off.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Where's the truck now?
Speaker 7 (02:51):
I left it just the other side of Malibu broke down,
So I left it when it stopped. I sat there
for a while, tried to think why I was hung
up in something like this, tried to figure why didn't come.
So I got out and started to walk. All the
time I was thinking about the man. I could almost
see him. I guess it got to me. So I
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came back, caught a ride and came back.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Did you all here's food for thanks? Danny? Where will you?
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Carol Bucks?
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Sixty?
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Wait a minute, he got fifteen San Frans M.
Speaker 8 (03:29):
Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yeah, here Dandy, nice a couple of cartains in there,
black right? Thank you? All right here, I am will
help yourself, thank you?
Speaker 8 (03:43):
Sure hungry?
Speaker 7 (03:43):
I haven't had anything to eat since last night.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Did the one tell us about the truck? Yeah? Where'd
you get it?
Speaker 8 (03:54):
I stole it?
Speaker 7 (03:55):
That's wrong too, I know everything I do seems to
be wrong.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Where did you take it from?
Speaker 7 (04:00):
Some parking lot near where I used to live? Where's
that roaming house on ninth Street in the Figarolla?
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Do you show us where the truck is now? I
guess so.
Speaker 7 (04:10):
I don't think anybody could move it broke down?
Speaker 8 (04:12):
Like I said.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Where you're from?
Speaker 6 (04:14):
The Walker Show?
Speaker 8 (04:16):
Wisconsin?
Speaker 7 (04:17):
It's a small city near Milwaukee. Maybe you've heard of it,
no one.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
I can't say. I have got good.
Speaker 7 (04:22):
Water, springs and wells, real fine manufactured things too, motors, jacks,
lots of things.
Speaker 8 (04:30):
Sure is a nice little place.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
How come you left there?
Speaker 7 (04:34):
Lots of reasons in trouble? Yeah, in a way, nothing serious.
There's lots of things you know.
Speaker 8 (04:44):
Home. I don't know just how to say it.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Have you ever been arrested?
Speaker 8 (04:49):
No, well, not booked or anything. Cops took me in
a couple of times, but for little things like one
night we broke in the church.
Speaker 7 (04:57):
Didn't going to steal anything. One of the guys just
wanted to play the organ.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Your parents a lie?
Speaker 8 (05:03):
Yeah, when'd you leave.
Speaker 7 (05:05):
Home last July? I thought about it for a long time.
Figured I might have a better chance where nobody knew me.
Looks like it didn't make any difference. When did you
get here last part of July? Sure it was different
than Walkershaw?
Speaker 3 (05:19):
What do you mean by that?
Speaker 7 (05:20):
That's so big? When I didn't know anyone? Pretty lonesome
at first. Then I got lucky.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yeah, I got.
Speaker 7 (05:27):
This job, nothing important, just washing dishes at this cafe.
I got twenty five dollars a week in food. Yeah,
got a little money ahead, and bought some clothes, not
real fancy, but they were new. And to give me
a lift, you know. Had a nice room, too clean,
handy to work. I thought I had it made in
the axe fell. I got sick, couldn't get out of bed.
(05:51):
One morning the landlord called a doctor. He said I
had rheumatic fever.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (05:56):
The doctor called for an ambulance and they took me
to general hospital. Things are bad enough when you feel good.
I was in the hospital and I didn't feel like nothing.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
You remember the doctor's name, No, sir, I don't how
long were we in the hospital?
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Three days? They just charged you in three days, did they? No, sir?
Speaker 8 (06:13):
I ran away?
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Why where?
Speaker 8 (06:15):
Travelers aid? Society said that they were.
Speaker 7 (06:17):
Gonna send me back home. I didn't want that, so
I ducked out. I went back to my room. I
got a couple of bucks I had hidden left.
Speaker 6 (06:26):
Didn't have any idea what.
Speaker 7 (06:27):
I was gonna do, but I didn't want to be
sent back to Wisconsin.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
That's when he stole the truck.
Speaker 7 (06:32):
Yeah, it looked like a way out of town. The
whole thing doesn't seem like it really happened. You know
how when you're half asleep and the radio's on, the
things come through, but they're not real clear.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 7 (06:44):
I remember riding in the truck after I hit them man,
trying to think what I was gonna do.
Speaker 8 (06:49):
How I was alone?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Story of my.
Speaker 7 (06:52):
Life seems like I was always alone? Sure was last night?
I don't know. I guess I never do anything right,
do I? I guess I just don't have the.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Nerve you did this time? Hm, he came here, didn't you?
Speaker 4 (07:11):
We put in a call to accident records and verified
Amol Salder's story. The body of a man identified as
Lloyd Holtman Trenchon, had been found by officers of the
Highway Patrol. Holtman had apparently been struck by a vehicle
traveling at high speed as he walked along the road.
We checked with Lieutenant Lee Jones at the crime lab
and we found that his division had made an investigation.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Frank and I left the office and went.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Over to see him. He showed his pictures taken at
the scene. On the victim's coat, the lab crew had
been able to find traces of blue paint. Jones was
not able to tell us what type of vehicle had
hit the victim, but he did say that from the
high rate of speed at the time of impact, there
would be extensive damage to the front end of the vehicle.
Amol Salder was booked on charges of violation of section
four to eighty VC, a felony. Frank and I checked
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him out of the main jail and drove out to
where he'd left the truck.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
He told us to drive up Highway one oh one.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
When we got past the Mallet Blue Colony, he directed
us to turn off onto a dirt road.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
We drove about two hundred yards, and then he asked
us to stop.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Sure this is where you left the truck?
Speaker 7 (08:09):
Yeah, just over there behind those trees, and the engine
started acting up.
Speaker 8 (08:13):
I looked for a place to park.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
It's sore.
Speaker 8 (08:15):
To be better if I got off the road.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
There it is.
Speaker 8 (08:20):
You can see it now.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
This is the same one you stole last night, is it?
Speaker 8 (08:25):
Yes, sir, it's the one I was driving.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
I'll track the front end room.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Did you have anything to drink last night? No?
Speaker 7 (08:32):
I had enough of that at home.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
You're sure this is the truck you had when you
hit that fellar, Yeah, I'm sure.
Speaker 8 (08:39):
I don't know what all the questions were about.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
I said, I did it.
Speaker 8 (08:42):
I'm not trying to hide anything.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
There's nothing up there. Joe finands clean.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Well, it doesn't make a lot of sense to it.
Speaker 7 (08:48):
No, I don't understand what the problem is.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Once you tell us doesn't add up with the evidence here,
What do you mean all the.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Report we got says that the man was killed by
a blue vehicle.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Uh huh.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Take a look at that truck with you?
Speaker 8 (09:03):
Yeah, black.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
We put in a call to the office and we
asked them to send the tow truck out and then
pound the vehicle.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
We stood by until they arrived. Frank and I drove.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Amil Salder to the scene of the accident. He pointed
it out for us. According to the information we'd gotten,
the location he gave us was the place where.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Lloyd Holtman had been found. We checked the area, but we.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Failed to come up with anything new. Five twenty pm,
we returned the suspect to the main jail and we
went back to the office. We sent a radiogram to
the authorities in Walkie Show asking for all available information
on Saldar At six forty seven pm.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
We checked out of the office.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
The next morning, December eleventh, Frank and I meant in
the squad room.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Hi, Joe, good morning, see the morning favors.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yeah, I guess there isn't much news.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
I sure we gave solid a lot of space.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Man should befriend the answers.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
I call Lee.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
When I got in.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
They went over the truck, found a lot.
Speaker 11 (09:56):
Of the kids prints, but they didn't turn anything at
a point to an accident.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
The way the body looked, there should be something on
the car that ran them down.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Shouldn't excuse me.
Speaker 6 (10:05):
Yes, I wonder if you.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
Have to help me out.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
We'll try it, sir, Come on in.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
What is you want?
Speaker 6 (10:10):
Well, they're a kid in the paper, sir, you know
a young kid that ran down the album?
Speaker 5 (10:14):
Uh email something smaller?
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Yeah, yeah, that's it. Well, what do you know about it?
Speaker 6 (10:20):
I'll just take it easy and a couple of things.
I gotta be sure if i'll tell you anything.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
All right, what's that? Well?
Speaker 5 (10:25):
I ain't gonna get mixed up enough.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
We can't promise you after we heard what you got
to tell now, I'm wasting my time by all right,
just a minute.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Huh, Maybe I better straighten you out. I see what. Oh,
this kid's sitting in jail right now. He's got a
pretty serious charge against him.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
I didn't make it.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I sure that might be true, but I better tell
you this.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
If you know anything about a following that's been committed
and you withhold that information, you're liable for prosecution.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
As and accessories.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
You know they that's the law.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Those are the words, and the only thing we're interested
in is getting the case off the books.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
We're not gonna give your name to the papers. That's
a promise, that's a promise.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
Okay, I told you it'd be pretty bad for him.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Infa any what I tell you? To get back to
my family?
Speaker 1 (11:05):
All right? Now, what's your name?
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Long states that's l O R E M.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Yeah, he wanted to sit down. Oh yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Now what do you know about this? That?
Speaker 6 (11:16):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (11:16):
Email?
Speaker 6 (11:16):
Kid?
Speaker 5 (11:17):
I guilty? How's that he didn't do it?
Speaker 1 (11:20):
How do you know?
Speaker 5 (11:20):
Oh, I've seen the accident, seen the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
I want to start at the beginning.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
Now you're sure none of this is going to get out?
Speaker 1 (11:26):
We told you not from us.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
Well I took a drive Saturday night up the coast.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
I have dinner for now.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
On the way back and stopped and talked a while, you.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
Know, kind of looked out at the ocean.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
Well I was just leaving.
Speaker 6 (11:38):
And I saw this old guy walk along the road,
the mittle stiff, you know, had a blanket roll on
his back, just walking along, you know, how.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
To do jess.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
All of a sudden, his car come rolling down the road.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
They must have been doing at least ninety come rolling
around and turn right at this old guy.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Welson.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
The old guy saw the car coming right at him,
kind of turned and started to run. Wasn't any place
for him to go. It's where the road is cut
right out of the mountain, you know.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Yeah, we were there, we know.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
Well.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
I guess he figured the driver swing around him or something,
so it run over the side of the pavement trying
to get out the way.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
Didn't do no good.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
That car floid right into him much knocked one hundred and.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Fifty feet one hundred and twenty two.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
No, it seemed like further than that.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Did the driver make any attempt to stop after he
hit the old man.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
Yeah, pulled over the side of the road.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
Didn't get out of the car though, huh, just stayed
there man. Then it drove off, Yes, sir, well, so
I was gonna go over and see what I could
do for the old fellow, I really was.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
And then this truck drove up. Guy stopped and got out, walked.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Over to the feller.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
I figured he'd be able to take care of it,
so I left.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
Did you see the driver of the truck, yes, sir,
so I'm good when he walked in front of the headlights,
the same fellow.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
In the paper that an't know what's his name?
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Solid?
Speaker 6 (12:41):
Yeah, Solid, you're pretty sure it's the same man, Yes, sir, Now,
like I told you, I got a good look at him.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
How about the other man? What can you tell us
about him?
Speaker 5 (12:49):
Not much scept and he was driving too fast?
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Or how about the car? You know what kind it was?
Speaker 5 (12:53):
I didn't get a good look at that.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
How about the color you understand?
Speaker 5 (12:56):
Yeah? It was a blue kind of light color.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Can't he give us any description of the driver?
Speaker 5 (13:01):
No, sir?
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Could you tell us if it was a man or
a woman? Oh?
Speaker 5 (13:04):
It was a man.
Speaker 6 (13:05):
I noticed that when it slowed down, he kind of
leaned out the wind and looked back down the road.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
It was a man, all right.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Could you see the color of his hair and anything
at all about him?
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (13:14):
No?
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Said? There wasn't any lights up there, you know, it
was dark. I couldn't see where it good.
Speaker 6 (13:18):
The mean reason I know the driver was a man
was the lcecen a truck kind of picked him up
and that's when he left.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
All right, mister stinks. We appreciate what you've told us.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
Glad to help, as long as nobody's going to know.
Be pretty embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Whow was that?
Speaker 5 (13:32):
Well? You see me and the wife, we didn't get
along too good. Nothing worth talking about. But a fella
don't like to be nagged at.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
You know.
Speaker 6 (13:41):
Well, there's just a little secretary in our office, and
she and I talk once in a while. A couple
of times we gone out the morning coffee together. Him
the last beef of my wife. I figured out six
the good, so I asked secretary for date. She give
it to him, who got together Saturday night, had dinner
the place, and up near Malibu.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
On the way back, we just popped talk.
Speaker 6 (14:00):
Nothing wrong, mind you, But I don't guess my wife
to understands you found out. So you see why I
don't want to nobody to know about Saturday be kind
of tough to explain. Yes, got to thinking about it,
doing what that kid emo?
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Solid?
Speaker 5 (14:15):
Yeah, got to thinking what he.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
Must be going through and decided maybe i'd better tell
about it.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
I don't say it's gonna help him a lot.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
Yep, I guess so, oh something else you might be.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Able to use.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
What's that might not be worth anything out of state?
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Now?
Speaker 5 (14:29):
What's that the hit and run car? Yeah, I've got
the license number.
Speaker 10 (14:42):
You are listening to Dragnet the Authentic story of your
police force election.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
We got the license number of the hip and run car,
also the fact that it carried in Illinois plate.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
We put out a local mnap B on it.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
We got in touch with the Department of Motor Vehicles
back east and we obtained the owner's name. According to
their records, he had notified them that he was moving
to California. They were able to supply us with a
North Hollywood address for him. We checked the name through
our record section, but we found nothing. At five twenty pm,
Frank and I drove out to see him.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Yeah, Charles Hookman, that's right, police officers, we'd like to
talk to you.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
Good money.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Thank you. My partner Frank Smith, Lennings Friday, LL Hi
is it?
Speaker 9 (15:30):
I was just having dinner. You mind if I tell
my wife to go ahead so.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
We can wait.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
If you like, no, I'll be right back far you
wanna wait just a minute, mind?
Speaker 12 (15:38):
If we go with it, I'm just going into the
dining room, guesser, But will still.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Have to be with it.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
It's just about you own a nineteen fifty four Poti Act.
Speaker 9 (15:47):
Yeah, light blue, that's right. Something happened to the.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Car, but we want you to tell us if you will.
Speaker 9 (15:52):
I don't know what this is all about it. Seems
you got to be able to tell me where is
the car? Well, I don't know you owned a car.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
You don't know where it is, that's right.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I suld have been stolen.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 9 (16:01):
For all I know, it could have been. I haven't
seen it.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
For a couple of days.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
But who has it?
Speaker 9 (16:05):
You know my brother in law. I let him drive it.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
You don't know where he is.
Speaker 12 (16:09):
You know if he smashed up the car, he's gonna
pay for it, though I'm not gonna be responsible.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Well, Freddy's done more than that.
Speaker 9 (16:15):
I don't know. He's a real bum my wife's kid brother.
Speaker 12 (16:18):
I can't hold a job for more than five minutes,
all the time sponging off me.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
When don't you let him take the car? Uh?
Speaker 12 (16:24):
Let's see, it was Saturday morning. I told him I
wouldn't be using it for a couple of days so
that he could have it. Look, it's my car you're
asking about. I got a right to know if something's wrong.
I had to notify the insurance company. Said, we understand,
but it'd.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Be better if we talk to your brother in law
about it first. If you wanna give us a full name,
Casey Steadman stea dm an.
Speaker 9 (16:42):
Is that that's right?
Speaker 3 (16:43):
How about a description?
Speaker 9 (16:44):
No problem. I think I got a picture around. If
you want that, yeah, good help, I'll.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Get it for you. What were you doing over the weekend?
Speaker 9 (16:52):
I was home and branch manager for the company I
worked for. I got an annual report. I have to
get out and work done that every night.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (17:01):
I started at Friday night, finished it up Monday afternoon.
That's one reason I.
Speaker 12 (17:04):
Let Casey take the car well, to get him out.
Speaker 9 (17:06):
Of the house so I could get some work done
on at all.
Speaker 12 (17:09):
He does sit around, look at the TV, starts right
with the programs for kids, and go straight through the day.
Speaker 9 (17:15):
Make here's something wrong with his ears too. Always got
set turned up.
Speaker 12 (17:18):
Real loud and anybody can think when he's watching the
showy s. I had to get him out of the house.
His wife won't even let me say anything to him.
She knows how important that work is too.
Speaker 9 (17:27):
Sometimes I wonder if it's worth it.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Well, I wouldn't know about that thing.
Speaker 9 (17:30):
Just once, just once.
Speaker 12 (17:32):
I'd like to be able to prove to my wife
what a bummy is, just once so she really believes it.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Because he was driving your current Saturday night. We'll let
you know what'll that prove she'll believe it.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Then we got a complete description of case, he said
met along with a picture of the suspect. We went
back to the office and got out a supplemental broadcast
and an ATV on him. I check it out and
I failed to turn up any information. We talked with
his friends and there's non associates. None of them could
tell us where he was. None of them had seen
since the accident. Wednesday, December twelfth, we got a call
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from one of the larger garages in the city.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Yes, sure, that's right.
Speaker 9 (18:06):
Mm hm.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Wendy calls you. I see all right, we'll be right over. No. No,
if he does well, you try to stall him till
we get there. Right, Thank you. Bye.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Garage over on sixty guy hauled a car in this morning,
the front of all smashed up.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Started to work on it.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
He thought he'd better call us Blue Pontiac.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Stains on the fender. Yeah, mechanic thinks they're blood. Frank
and I left the office and we drove over to
the garage. We talked to the owner. He told us
that he'd got in a call to bring a tow
truck to the corner of Main and Crocker Streets. When
he got there, he met a man who asked him
to tow a car to the garage and to do
some repair work on the right front fender. We showed
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him Steadman's pictures. He gave us a positive identification. We
checked the car over. It was a nineteen fifty four
Blue Pontiacs, said an. The license number was the same
one that we'd gotten previously. The garage owner went on
to tell us that the suspect the car on Thursday night,
and that it was important that the repairs be made
by that time.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
We asked that we be notified. In the event the
suspect made.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
An appearance before then, we called the crime lab and
we asked them to come down and go over the car.
Frank and I went back to the office and we
met with Captain Lorman. We told him what we'd found.
He told us to be at the garage the first
thing Thursday morning. In the event, Stedman made an early appearance,
Frank and I got there at seven thirty am. At
four point thirty in the afternoon, the suspects still hadn't
shown four forty five, four fifty pm.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Maybe you figure something's wrong.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Doesn't seem likely. It's no way for him to find out.
Thank your sister, Tippy no look and said he wouldn't
say anything to her about him. Met him with Frank.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Yeah, we got alive with him and must take us.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Seedman, Yeah, you'd like to talk to you.
Speaker 9 (19:46):
Why do I know you police officers?
Speaker 1 (19:48):
You own that blue Pontiac over.
Speaker 9 (19:50):
There, John Man the tickety No, I know nothing about
it nothing.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
I never saw the car.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Before saw that. Toted in says you're the one who
called him and.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
He made a mistake.
Speaker 7 (19:58):
Must be a lot of men to look like me,
something special about me.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Our crime lab has gone over the car. As soon
as we roll your fingerprints, we'll be able to tell
for sure.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
What's that going to prove? Maybe I did drive the car?
Nothing wrong with that. No law I says a man
can't drive a car.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
We got one that says you can't use it to
kill somebody.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
I didn't do that. Yeah, sure, Oh you don't believe me,
do you? Nope, that's kind of lousy, isn't it. Do
you mean that you'll walk in here? You already made
up your mind. I'm gilly you call that fair.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
We just got to go with the evidence.
Speaker 9 (20:19):
Mister, Well, you've got.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
Nothing to prove I was in that car, not to
show that I killed anybody. Just trying to make me
say I did something I don't know nothing about.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
I Come on, let's go.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
You just swear you take me to court.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
I'll tell the whole world about this lossy deal. Yeah.
Well I don't know about the world. Yeah, but we'll
be there to listen.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
We took the suspect back down to the city Hall
as soon as we had his fingerprints taken and compared
with the ones found in the car. We showed him
the physical evidence that we had. When it was presented,
he confessed to killing Lloyd Holman. He made a statement
and we took him over to the main jail where
he was booked in on a charge of violation of
Section four EIGHTYVC.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
You fellow me.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Before we left the jail, we had Aml Saler brought
from his cells to one of the interview rooms.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
He looked like he hadn't slept for several day. Sit
on him.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Thanks, how do.
Speaker 9 (21:06):
You feel you're not too good? Mister Friday?
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Oh, we got some news for you.
Speaker 8 (21:11):
Yeah, you didn't kill that Memes, you're not lying to me.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
No, we've got the guy that did it.
Speaker 8 (21:16):
Well, that's good.
Speaker 7 (21:17):
Since that night, all I've thought about was that man
lying there. I'm glad it wasn't me.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Yeah, you know you still have to answer for all
of that.
Speaker 7 (21:27):
Sure, I know, funny. The reason I left home was
to build something new. Here I am in jail, just me.
I guess I blame my parents, my brother's everybody all
the time. It's me for nobody else to blame.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Really, well, I can try it again any Yeah, but
it'll probably be the same, always on the outside looking in.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Well what do you mean by that?
Speaker 7 (21:51):
Well, like back in high school, maybe you'll think it's funny.
But like one time I wanted to go to the
junior prom, real bad. Didn't have the right clothes, didn't
have a date. Who'd want to go out with a
shrimp like me?
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Don't you ask anybody to go with it?
Speaker 7 (22:06):
No? I knew better, But I went to the prom anyway,
all by myself, no date, no nice clothes, just old
cords and a beat up jacket.
Speaker 8 (22:15):
One and how I went, uh huh? I sat on
the fire escape.
Speaker 7 (22:19):
Yeah, I watched the whole thing through the gym window,
sitting on a fire escape. They had lanterns and stuff.
Kids all dressed up, real pretty. It was nice to
watch saw the Grand March. Everything only won trouble.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (22:34):
Like I said, I was all alone looking in from
the outside.
Speaker 8 (22:40):
We gotta shove off as Thanks for coming over.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Sorry, say it time.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Sure you want to wait here, We'll send an.
Speaker 8 (22:47):
Officer in for you, Yes, sir, Thanks again.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Had a nice kid, don't.
Speaker 11 (22:57):
Think Yeah, I guess he is a lot of things
caught up with him.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Kind of gives you.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
A funny feeling talking to him.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
What do you mean, Well, you know how?
Speaker 11 (23:05):
And he worked all night and you get home early
in the morning, I'm too tired to sleep. And hear
a train whistle from the other side of town. Listen
to that kid, I got the same sort of feeling.
I don't think he's a bad kid, not really. Do
you think I'm wrong, Joe?
Speaker 1 (23:21):
I only guess if you're a it makes two of
its Yeah, whistling you're talking about? Uh, hang it every
once in a while myself.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
The story you have just heard is true.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
The names were changed to protect the innocent.
Speaker 10 (23:41):
On April sixteenth, trial was held in Department ninety seven
Superior Court of the State of California in and for
the County of Los Angeles. Casey Harrison Stedman was tried
and convicted a violation of Section four.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Eighty of the Vehicle Code.
Speaker 10 (24:02):
All violation of section four EIGHTBC is punishable by imprisonment
on the State penitentiary for a.
Speaker 9 (24:07):
Period of from one to five years.
Speaker 10 (24:10):
Am O'donald Salter pled guilty to one count of grand
theft auto in the interests of justice. He was placed
on probation for a period of three years.
Speaker 12 (24:37):
You have just heard Dragnet, the Authentic Story of your
Police Force.
Speaker 9 (24:41):
An action is starring Jack Webb.
Speaker 10 (24:43):
Presentation of the United States Armed Forces Radio Service.
Speaker 13 (25:00):
As stumps comsomoles a color as a dot about
Ladies and gentlemen. The story you were about to hear
is true.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
The names have been changed to protect the innocent dragnet.
You're a detective sergeant. You're assigned the homicide detail. A
young man walks into your office and tells you he
wants to give himself up. You don't know if you
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can believe his story your job.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Check it out.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
It was Monday, December tenth. It was cold in Los Angeles.
We were working the day watch out, a homicide detail.
My partner is Frank Smith. The boss is Captain Lormon.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
My name's Fry.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
We're on our way back from records and identification. It
was eleven fifteen am when we got your room forty two,
the squadroom.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
Joe, Yeah, Danny kid waiting to see you.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Did we say what he wanted?
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Said he wanted to talk to you and nobody else.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Did give a name?
Speaker 5 (01:02):
No, A nice looking kid.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
All right, we'll talk to him.
Speaker 6 (01:05):
You're right with a Josh at the book all right?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
All right?
Speaker 7 (01:09):
Do you want to see me you, Sergeant Friday?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
That's right? What can I do for you?
Speaker 8 (01:13):
I want to talk to you.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
Nothing on the book job.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
What's your name, sir, Amols Salder Amos is my partner, Frank.
Speaker 7 (01:20):
Smith Clumbus to Smith's I, why did you ask for me?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Well?
Speaker 7 (01:23):
They told me to Who's that the men in that
room across the Hall of Business office?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I see?
Speaker 7 (01:28):
I sure hope you can help me, Sergeant Friday. I'm
in trouble, real bad, all.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Right, So I'll sit down here and you can tell
us about it.
Speaker 7 (01:37):
Go ahead, Well, one thing you should know. I came
in to give myself up.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Is that right?
Speaker 8 (01:44):
I didn't mean to do wrong?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Alright?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
What'd you do?
Speaker 8 (01:48):
Killed a man?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Amo?
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Charles Sawder was eighteen years old, five feet seven and
a half one hundred and thirty seven pounds. He had
light blonde hair and blue He was wearing a tan
windbreaker and tan pants. He looked tired, and he told
us that he hadn't eaten in several hours. We shot
out for some hot coffee and sandwiches. Frank checked his
name and description through R and I, but he found
that he had no record in our files. We asked
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him to tell us the story.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Do you know the man he killed? No?
Speaker 8 (02:16):
I never saw him before.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Well how'd you kill him?
Speaker 8 (02:19):
Ran him down in a car?
Speaker 6 (02:21):
No?
Speaker 1 (02:22):
A truck or where'd this happen?
Speaker 9 (02:24):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (02:24):
Coast Highway near Malibu, the Justice side when last night?
I guess it must have been around ten. It should
have been around them, because I left town at eight thirty.
Speaker 8 (02:34):
Took about an hour and a half to drive up there.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Now you sure the man was dead?
Speaker 8 (02:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (02:39):
I looked at him. It wasn't hard to tell.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Did you try to help him at all?
Speaker 10 (02:44):
No?
Speaker 7 (02:44):
As soon as I looked at him, I knew there
wasn't anything I could do with just got back in
the truck and took off.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Where's the truck now?
Speaker 7 (02:51):
I left it just the other side of Malibu broke down,
So I left it when it stopped. I sat there
for a while, tried to think why I was hung
up in something like this, tried to figure why didn't come.
So I got out and started to walk. All the
time I was thinking about the man. I could almost
see him. I guess it got to me. So I
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came back, caught a ride and came back.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Did you all here's food for thanks? Danny? Where will you?
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Carol Bucks?
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Sixty?
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Wait a minute, he got fifteen San Frans M.
Speaker 8 (03:29):
Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yeah, here Dandy, nice a couple of cartains in there,
black right? Thank you? All right here, I am will
help yourself, thank you?
Speaker 8 (03:43):
Sure hungry?
Speaker 7 (03:43):
I haven't had anything to eat since last night.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Did the one tell us about the truck? Yeah? Where'd
you get it?
Speaker 8 (03:54):
I stole it?
Speaker 7 (03:55):
That's wrong too, I know everything I do seems to
be wrong.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Where did you take it from?
Speaker 7 (04:00):
Some parking lot near where I used to live? Where's
that roaming house on ninth Street in the Figarolla?
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Do you show us where the truck is now? I
guess so.
Speaker 7 (04:10):
I don't think anybody could move it broke down?
Speaker 8 (04:12):
Like I said.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Where you're from?
Speaker 6 (04:14):
The Walker Show?
Speaker 8 (04:16):
Wisconsin?
Speaker 7 (04:17):
It's a small city near Milwaukee. Maybe you've heard of it,
no one.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
I can't say. I have got good.
Speaker 7 (04:22):
Water, springs and wells, real fine manufactured things too, motors, jacks,
lots of things.
Speaker 8 (04:30):
Sure is a nice little place.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
How come you left there?
Speaker 7 (04:34):
Lots of reasons in trouble? Yeah, in a way, nothing serious.
There's lots of things you know.
Speaker 8 (04:44):
Home. I don't know just how to say it.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Have you ever been arrested?
Speaker 8 (04:49):
No, well, not booked or anything. Cops took me in
a couple of times, but for little things like one
night we broke in the church.
Speaker 7 (04:57):
Didn't going to steal anything. One of the guys just
wanted to play the organ.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Your parents a lie?
Speaker 8 (05:03):
Yeah, when'd you leave.
Speaker 7 (05:05):
Home last July? I thought about it for a long time.
Figured I might have a better chance where nobody knew me.
Looks like it didn't make any difference. When did you
get here last part of July? Sure it was different
than Walkershaw?
Speaker 3 (05:19):
What do you mean by that?
Speaker 7 (05:20):
That's so big? When I didn't know anyone? Pretty lonesome
at first. Then I got lucky.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yeah, I got.
Speaker 7 (05:27):
This job, nothing important, just washing dishes at this cafe.
I got twenty five dollars a week in food. Yeah,
got a little money ahead, and bought some clothes, not
real fancy, but they were new. And to give me
a lift, you know. Had a nice room, too clean,
handy to work. I thought I had it made in
the axe fell. I got sick, couldn't get out of bed.
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One morning the landlord called a doctor. He said I
had rheumatic fever.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (05:56):
The doctor called for an ambulance and they took me
to general hospital. Things are bad enough when you feel good.
I was in the hospital and I didn't feel like nothing.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
You remember the doctor's name, No, sir, I don't how
long were we in the hospital?
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Three days? They just charged you in three days, did they? No, sir?
Speaker 8 (06:13):
I ran away?
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Why where?
Speaker 8 (06:15):
Travelers aid? Society said that they were.
Speaker 7 (06:17):
Gonna send me back home. I didn't want that, so
I ducked out. I went back to my room. I
got a couple of bucks I had hidden left.
Speaker 6 (06:26):
Didn't have any idea what.
Speaker 7 (06:27):
I was gonna do, but I didn't want to be
sent back to Wisconsin.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
That's when he stole the truck.
Speaker 7 (06:32):
Yeah, it looked like a way out of town. The
whole thing doesn't seem like it really happened. You know
how when you're half asleep and the radio's on, the
things come through, but they're not real clear.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 7 (06:44):
I remember riding in the truck after I hit them man,
trying to think what I was gonna do.
Speaker 8 (06:49):
How I was alone?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Story of my.
Speaker 7 (06:52):
Life seems like I was always alone? Sure was last night?
I don't know. I guess I never do anything right,
do I? I guess I just don't have the.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Nerve you did this time? Hm, he came here, didn't you?
Speaker 4 (07:11):
We put in a call to accident records and verified
Amol Salder's story. The body of a man identified as
Lloyd Holtman Trenchon, had been found by officers of the
Highway Patrol. Holtman had apparently been struck by a vehicle
traveling at high speed as he walked along the road.
We checked with Lieutenant Lee Jones at the crime lab
and we found that his division had made an investigation.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Frank and I left the office and went.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Over to see him. He showed his pictures taken at
the scene. On the victim's coat, the lab crew had
been able to find traces of blue paint. Jones was
not able to tell us what type of vehicle had
hit the victim, but he did say that from the
high rate of speed at the time of impact, there
would be extensive damage to the front end of the vehicle.
Amol Salder was booked on charges of violation of section
four to eighty VC, a felony. Frank and I checked
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him out of the main jail and drove out to
where he'd left the truck.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
He told us to drive up Highway one oh one.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
When we got past the Mallet Blue Colony, he directed
us to turn off onto a dirt road.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
We drove about two hundred yards, and then he asked
us to stop.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Sure this is where you left the truck?
Speaker 7 (08:09):
Yeah, just over there behind those trees, and the engine
started acting up.
Speaker 8 (08:13):
I looked for a place to park.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
It's sore.
Speaker 8 (08:15):
To be better if I got off the road.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
There it is.
Speaker 8 (08:20):
You can see it now.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
This is the same one you stole last night, is it?
Speaker 8 (08:25):
Yes, sir, it's the one I was driving.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
I'll track the front end room.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Did you have anything to drink last night? No?
Speaker 7 (08:32):
I had enough of that at home.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
You're sure this is the truck you had when you
hit that fellar, Yeah, I'm sure.
Speaker 8 (08:39):
I don't know what all the questions were about.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
I said, I did it.
Speaker 8 (08:42):
I'm not trying to hide anything.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
There's nothing up there. Joe finands clean.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Well, it doesn't make a lot of sense to it.
Speaker 7 (08:48):
No, I don't understand what the problem is.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Once you tell us doesn't add up with the evidence here,
What do you mean all the.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Report we got says that the man was killed by
a blue vehicle.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Uh huh.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Take a look at that truck with you?
Speaker 8 (09:03):
Yeah, black.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
We put in a call to the office and we
asked them to send the tow truck out and then
pound the vehicle.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
We stood by until they arrived. Frank and I drove.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Amil Salder to the scene of the accident. He pointed
it out for us. According to the information we'd gotten,
the location he gave us was the place where.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Lloyd Holtman had been found. We checked the area, but we.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Failed to come up with anything new. Five twenty pm,
we returned the suspect to the main jail and we
went back to the office. We sent a radiogram to
the authorities in Walkie Show asking for all available information
on Saldar At six forty seven pm.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
We checked out of the office.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
The next morning, December eleventh, Frank and I meant in
the squad room.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Hi, Joe, good morning, see the morning favors.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yeah, I guess there isn't much news.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
I sure we gave solid a lot of space.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Man should befriend the answers.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
I call Lee.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
When I got in.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
They went over the truck, found a lot.
Speaker 11 (09:56):
Of the kids prints, but they didn't turn anything at
a point to an accident.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
The way the body looked, there should be something on
the car that ran them down.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Shouldn't excuse me.
Speaker 6 (10:05):
Yes, I wonder if you.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
Have to help me out.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
We'll try it, sir, Come on in.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
What is you want?
Speaker 6 (10:10):
Well, they're a kid in the paper, sir, you know
a young kid that ran down the album?
Speaker 5 (10:14):
Uh email something smaller?
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Yeah, yeah, that's it. Well, what do you know about it?
Speaker 6 (10:20):
I'll just take it easy and a couple of things.
I gotta be sure if i'll tell you anything.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
All right, what's that? Well?
Speaker 5 (10:25):
I ain't gonna get mixed up enough.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
We can't promise you after we heard what you got
to tell now, I'm wasting my time by all right,
just a minute.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Huh, Maybe I better straighten you out. I see what. Oh,
this kid's sitting in jail right now. He's got a
pretty serious charge against him.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
I didn't make it.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I sure that might be true, but I better tell
you this.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
If you know anything about a following that's been committed
and you withhold that information, you're liable for prosecution.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
As and accessories.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
You know they that's the law.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Those are the words, and the only thing we're interested
in is getting the case off the books.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
We're not gonna give your name to the papers. That's
a promise, that's a promise.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
Okay, I told you it'd be pretty bad for him.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Infa any what I tell you? To get back to
my family?
Speaker 1 (11:05):
All right? Now, what's your name?
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Long states that's l O R E M.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Yeah, he wanted to sit down. Oh yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Now what do you know about this? That?
Speaker 6 (11:16):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (11:16):
Email?
Speaker 6 (11:16):
Kid?
Speaker 5 (11:17):
I guilty? How's that he didn't do it?
Speaker 1 (11:20):
How do you know?
Speaker 5 (11:20):
Oh, I've seen the accident, seen the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
I want to start at the beginning.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
Now you're sure none of this is going to get out?
Speaker 1 (11:26):
We told you not from us.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
Well I took a drive Saturday night up the coast.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
I have dinner for now.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
On the way back and stopped and talked a while, you.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
Know, kind of looked out at the ocean.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
Well I was just leaving.
Speaker 6 (11:38):
And I saw this old guy walk along the road,
the mittle stiff, you know, had a blanket roll on
his back, just walking along, you know, how.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
To do jess.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
All of a sudden, his car come rolling down the road.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
They must have been doing at least ninety come rolling
around and turn right at this old guy.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Welson.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
The old guy saw the car coming right at him,
kind of turned and started to run. Wasn't any place
for him to go. It's where the road is cut
right out of the mountain, you know.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Yeah, we were there, we know.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
Well.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
I guess he figured the driver swing around him or something,
so it run over the side of the pavement trying
to get out the way.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
Didn't do no good.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
That car floid right into him much knocked one hundred and.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Fifty feet one hundred and twenty two.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
No, it seemed like further than that.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Did the driver make any attempt to stop after he
hit the old man.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
Yeah, pulled over the side of the road.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
Didn't get out of the car though, huh, just stayed
there man. Then it drove off, Yes, sir, well, so
I was gonna go over and see what I could
do for the old fellow, I really was.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
And then this truck drove up. Guy stopped and got out, walked.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Over to the feller.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
I figured he'd be able to take care of it,
so I left.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
Did you see the driver of the truck, yes, sir,
so I'm good when he walked in front of the headlights,
the same fellow.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
In the paper that an't know what's his name?
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Solid?
Speaker 6 (12:41):
Yeah, Solid, you're pretty sure it's the same man, Yes, sir, Now,
like I told you, I got a good look at him.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
How about the other man? What can you tell us
about him?
Speaker 5 (12:49):
Not much scept and he was driving too fast?
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Or how about the car? You know what kind it was?
Speaker 5 (12:53):
I didn't get a good look at that.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
How about the color you understand?
Speaker 5 (12:56):
Yeah? It was a blue kind of light color.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Can't he give us any description of the driver?
Speaker 5 (13:01):
No, sir?
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Could you tell us if it was a man or
a woman? Oh?
Speaker 5 (13:04):
It was a man.
Speaker 6 (13:05):
I noticed that when it slowed down, he kind of
leaned out the wind and looked back down the road.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
It was a man, all right.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Could you see the color of his hair and anything
at all about him?
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (13:14):
No?
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Said? There wasn't any lights up there, you know, it
was dark. I couldn't see where it good.
Speaker 6 (13:18):
The mean reason I know the driver was a man
was the lcecen a truck kind of picked him up
and that's when he left.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
All right, mister stinks. We appreciate what you've told us.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
Glad to help, as long as nobody's going to know.
Be pretty embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Whow was that?
Speaker 5 (13:32):
Well? You see me and the wife, we didn't get
along too good. Nothing worth talking about. But a fella
don't like to be nagged at.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
You know.
Speaker 6 (13:41):
Well, there's just a little secretary in our office, and
she and I talk once in a while. A couple
of times we gone out the morning coffee together. Him
the last beef of my wife. I figured out six
the good, so I asked secretary for date. She give
it to him, who got together Saturday night, had dinner
the place, and up near Malibu.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
On the way back, we just popped talk.
Speaker 6 (14:00):
Nothing wrong, mind you, But I don't guess my wife
to understands you found out. So you see why I
don't want to nobody to know about Saturday be kind
of tough to explain. Yes, got to thinking about it,
doing what that kid emo?
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Solid?
Speaker 5 (14:15):
Yeah, got to thinking what he.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
Must be going through and decided maybe i'd better tell
about it.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
I don't say it's gonna help him a lot.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
Yep, I guess so, oh something else you might be.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Able to use.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
What's that might not be worth anything out of state?
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Now?
Speaker 5 (14:29):
What's that the hit and run car? Yeah, I've got
the license number.
Speaker 10 (14:42):
You are listening to Dragnet the Authentic story of your
police force election.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
We got the license number of the hip and run car,
also the fact that it carried in Illinois plate.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
We put out a local mnap B on it.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
We got in touch with the Department of Motor Vehicles
back east and we obtained the owner's name. According to
their records, he had notified them that he was moving
to California. They were able to supply us with a
North Hollywood address for him. We checked the name through
our record section, but we found nothing. At five twenty pm,
Frank and I drove out to see him.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Yeah, Charles Hookman, that's right, police officers, we'd like to
talk to you.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
Good money.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Thank you. My partner Frank Smith, Lennings Friday, LL Hi
is it?
Speaker 9 (15:30):
I was just having dinner. You mind if I tell
my wife to go ahead so.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
We can wait.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
If you like, no, I'll be right back far you
wanna wait just a minute, mind?
Speaker 12 (15:38):
If we go with it, I'm just going into the
dining room, guesser, But will still.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Have to be with it.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
It's just about you own a nineteen fifty four Poti Act.
Speaker 9 (15:47):
Yeah, light blue, that's right. Something happened to the.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Car, but we want you to tell us if you will.
Speaker 9 (15:52):
I don't know what this is all about it. Seems
you got to be able to tell me where is
the car? Well, I don't know you owned a car.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
You don't know where it is, that's right.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I suld have been stolen.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 9 (16:01):
For all I know, it could have been. I haven't
seen it.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
For a couple of days.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
But who has it?
Speaker 9 (16:05):
You know my brother in law. I let him drive it.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
You don't know where he is.
Speaker 12 (16:09):
You know if he smashed up the car, he's gonna
pay for it, though I'm not gonna be responsible.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Well, Freddy's done more than that.
Speaker 9 (16:15):
I don't know. He's a real bum my wife's kid brother.
Speaker 12 (16:18):
I can't hold a job for more than five minutes,
all the time sponging off me.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
When don't you let him take the car? Uh?
Speaker 12 (16:24):
Let's see, it was Saturday morning. I told him I
wouldn't be using it for a couple of days so
that he could have it. Look, it's my car you're
asking about. I got a right to know if something's wrong.
I had to notify the insurance company. Said, we understand,
but it'd.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Be better if we talk to your brother in law
about it first. If you wanna give us a full name,
Casey Steadman stea dm an.
Speaker 9 (16:42):
Is that that's right?
Speaker 3 (16:43):
How about a description?
Speaker 9 (16:44):
No problem. I think I got a picture around. If
you want that, yeah, good help, I'll.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Get it for you. What were you doing over the weekend?
Speaker 9 (16:52):
I was home and branch manager for the company I
worked for. I got an annual report. I have to
get out and work done that every night.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (17:01):
I started at Friday night, finished it up Monday afternoon.
That's one reason I.
Speaker 12 (17:04):
Let Casey take the car well, to get him out.
Speaker 9 (17:06):
Of the house so I could get some work done
on at all.
Speaker 12 (17:09):
He does sit around, look at the TV, starts right
with the programs for kids, and go straight through the day.
Speaker 9 (17:15):
Make here's something wrong with his ears too. Always got
set turned up.
Speaker 12 (17:18):
Real loud and anybody can think when he's watching the
showy s. I had to get him out of the house.
His wife won't even let me say anything to him.
She knows how important that work is too.
Speaker 9 (17:27):
Sometimes I wonder if it's worth it.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Well, I wouldn't know about that thing.
Speaker 9 (17:30):
Just once, just once.
Speaker 12 (17:32):
I'd like to be able to prove to my wife
what a bummy is, just once so she really believes it.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Because he was driving your current Saturday night. We'll let
you know what'll that prove she'll believe it.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Then we got a complete description of case, he said
met along with a picture of the suspect. We went
back to the office and got out a supplemental broadcast
and an ATV on him. I check it out and
I failed to turn up any information. We talked with
his friends and there's non associates. None of them could
tell us where he was. None of them had seen
since the accident. Wednesday, December twelfth, we got a call
(18:03):
from one of the larger garages in the city.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Yes, sure, that's right.
Speaker 9 (18:06):
Mm hm.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Wendy calls you. I see all right, we'll be right over. No. No,
if he does well, you try to stall him till
we get there. Right, Thank you. Bye.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Garage over on sixty guy hauled a car in this morning,
the front of all smashed up.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Started to work on it.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
He thought he'd better call us Blue Pontiac.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Stains on the fender. Yeah, mechanic thinks they're blood. Frank
and I left the office and we drove over to
the garage. We talked to the owner. He told us
that he'd got in a call to bring a tow
truck to the corner of Main and Crocker Streets. When
he got there, he met a man who asked him
to tow a car to the garage and to do
some repair work on the right front fender. We showed
(18:47):
him Steadman's pictures. He gave us a positive identification. We
checked the car over. It was a nineteen fifty four
Blue Pontiacs, said an. The license number was the same
one that we'd gotten previously. The garage owner went on
to tell us that the suspect the car on Thursday night,
and that it was important that the repairs be made
by that time.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
We asked that we be notified. In the event the
suspect made.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
An appearance before then, we called the crime lab and
we asked them to come down and go over the car.
Frank and I went back to the office and we
met with Captain Lorman. We told him what we'd found.
He told us to be at the garage the first
thing Thursday morning. In the event, Stedman made an early appearance,
Frank and I got there at seven thirty am. At
four point thirty in the afternoon, the suspects still hadn't
shown four forty five, four fifty pm.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Maybe you figure something's wrong.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Doesn't seem likely. It's no way for him to find out.
Thank your sister, Tippy no look and said he wouldn't
say anything to her about him. Met him with Frank.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Yeah, we got alive with him and must take us.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Seedman, Yeah, you'd like to talk to you.
Speaker 9 (19:46):
Why do I know you police officers?
Speaker 1 (19:48):
You own that blue Pontiac over.
Speaker 9 (19:50):
There, John Man the tickety No, I know nothing about
it nothing.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
I never saw the car.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Before saw that. Toted in says you're the one who
called him and.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
He made a mistake.
Speaker 7 (19:58):
Must be a lot of men to look like me,
something special about me.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Our crime lab has gone over the car. As soon
as we roll your fingerprints, we'll be able to tell
for sure.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
What's that going to prove? Maybe I did drive the car?
Nothing wrong with that. No law I says a man
can't drive a car.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
We got one that says you can't use it to
kill somebody.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
I didn't do that. Yeah, sure, Oh you don't believe me,
do you? Nope, that's kind of lousy, isn't it. Do
you mean that you'll walk in here? You already made
up your mind. I'm gilly you call that fair.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
We just got to go with the evidence.
Speaker 9 (20:19):
Mister, Well, you've got.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
Nothing to prove I was in that car, not to
show that I killed anybody. Just trying to make me
say I did something I don't know nothing about.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
I Come on, let's go.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
You just swear you take me to court.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
I'll tell the whole world about this lossy deal. Yeah.
Well I don't know about the world. Yeah, but we'll
be there to listen.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
We took the suspect back down to the city Hall
as soon as we had his fingerprints taken and compared
with the ones found in the car. We showed him
the physical evidence that we had. When it was presented,
he confessed to killing Lloyd Holman. He made a statement
and we took him over to the main jail where
he was booked in on a charge of violation of
Section four EIGHTYVC.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
You fellow me.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Before we left the jail, we had Aml Saler brought
from his cells to one of the interview rooms.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
He looked like he hadn't slept for several day. Sit
on him.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Thanks, how do.
Speaker 9 (21:06):
You feel you're not too good? Mister Friday?
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Oh, we got some news for you.
Speaker 8 (21:11):
Yeah, you didn't kill that Memes, you're not lying to me.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
No, we've got the guy that did it.
Speaker 8 (21:16):
Well, that's good.
Speaker 7 (21:17):
Since that night, all I've thought about was that man
lying there. I'm glad it wasn't me.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Yeah, you know you still have to answer for all
of that.
Speaker 7 (21:27):
Sure, I know, funny. The reason I left home was
to build something new. Here I am in jail, just me.
I guess I blame my parents, my brother's everybody all
the time. It's me for nobody else to blame.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Really, well, I can try it again any Yeah, but
it'll probably be the same, always on the outside looking in.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Well what do you mean by that?
Speaker 7 (21:51):
Well, like back in high school, maybe you'll think it's funny.
But like one time I wanted to go to the
junior prom, real bad. Didn't have the right clothes, didn't
have a date. Who'd want to go out with a
shrimp like me?
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Don't you ask anybody to go with it?
Speaker 7 (22:06):
No? I knew better, But I went to the prom anyway,
all by myself, no date, no nice clothes, just old
cords and a beat up jacket.
Speaker 8 (22:15):
One and how I went, uh huh? I sat on
the fire escape.
Speaker 7 (22:19):
Yeah, I watched the whole thing through the gym window,
sitting on a fire escape. They had lanterns and stuff.
Kids all dressed up, real pretty. It was nice to
watch saw the Grand March. Everything only won trouble.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (22:34):
Like I said, I was all alone looking in from
the outside.
Speaker 8 (22:40):
We gotta shove off as Thanks for coming over.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Sorry, say it time.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Sure you want to wait here, We'll send an.
Speaker 8 (22:47):
Officer in for you, Yes, sir, Thanks again.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Had a nice kid, don't.
Speaker 11 (22:57):
Think Yeah, I guess he is a lot of things
caught up with him.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Kind of gives you.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
A funny feeling talking to him.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
What do you mean, Well, you know how?
Speaker 11 (23:05):
And he worked all night and you get home early
in the morning, I'm too tired to sleep. And hear
a train whistle from the other side of town. Listen
to that kid, I got the same sort of feeling.
I don't think he's a bad kid, not really. Do
you think I'm wrong, Joe?
Speaker 1 (23:21):
I only guess if you're a it makes two of
its Yeah, whistling you're talking about? Uh, hang it every
once in a while myself.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
The story you have just heard is true.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
The names were changed to protect the innocent.
Speaker 10 (23:41):
On April sixteenth, trial was held in Department ninety seven
Superior Court of the State of California in and for
the County of Los Angeles. Casey Harrison Stedman was tried
and convicted a violation of Section four.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Eighty of the Vehicle Code.
Speaker 10 (24:02):
All violation of section four EIGHTBC is punishable by imprisonment
on the State penitentiary for a.
Speaker 9 (24:07):
Period of from one to five years.
Speaker 10 (24:10):
Am O'donald Salter pled guilty to one count of grand
theft auto in the interests of justice. He was placed
on probation for a period of three years.
Speaker 12 (24:37):
You have just heard Dragnet, the Authentic Story of your
Police Force.
Speaker 9 (24:41):
An action is starring Jack Webb.
Speaker 10 (24:43):
Presentation of the United States Armed Forces Radio Service.
Speaker 13 (25:00):
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