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March 26, 2025 33 mins

In this episode of the Entropy Podcast, host Francis Gorman speaks with Francesco Cipollone, founder and CEO of Phoenix Security. They discuss the evolution of application security, the challenges faced in the industry, and the innovative approaches taken by Phoenix Security to address these issues. Francesco shares insights on the importance of collaboration between security teams and engineers, the role of AI in enhancing security measures, and the necessity of prioritizing vulnerabilities in a rapidly changing digital landscape. The conversation also touches on the reality of cybersecurity solutions and the need for organizations to adapt to new threats and technologies.

Takeaways

  • Francesco Cipollone's journey to founding Phoenix Security.
  • The friction between security teams and engineering during cloud transformations.
  • The importance of gamifying security objectives at the business level.
  • AI can augment human capabilities but cannot replace them in decision-making.
  • Organizations must prioritize vulnerabilities effectively to keep pace with threats.
  • The need for a comprehensive understanding of application security beyond just tools.
  • The obsession with software bill of materials may distract from core security issues.
  • Collaboration between security and engineering is crucial for effective vulnerability management.
  • The rapid evolution of threats necessitates a proactive approach to security.
  • Understanding the fundamentals of security is essential for effective risk management.

Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the host and guests, based on personal experiences. They do not represent facts and are not intended to defame or harm any individual or business. Listeners are encouraged to form their own opinions.


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