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May 28, 2025 45 mins

In this episode of the Entropy podcast, host Francis Gorman interviews Matthew Hedger, a veteran intelligence officer and financial operations specialist. Matthew shares his extensive background in covert operations, including his experience laundering money and working with organized crime. The conversation delves into the intricacies of social pattern recognition, the insider threats within financial institutions, and the evolving landscape of money laundering in the digital age. Matthew discusses the impact of AI on criminal activities and the importance of understanding human behavior in cybersecurity. He also offers advice for aspiring intelligence officers and highlights the need for vigilance in the face of emerging threats.

Takeaways

  • Matthew Hedger has over 17 years of experience in intelligence operations.
  • He laundered over a hundred million dollars while working undercover.
  • Social pattern recognition is crucial for survival in dangerous environments.
  • Insider threats are a significant vulnerability in financial institutions.
  • COVID-19 has exacerbated human vulnerabilities in organizations.
  • Criminals are increasingly using innovative methods for money laundering.
  • Digital platforms like Roblox can be exploited for illicit activities.
  • AI is transforming the landscape of criminal activity and intelligence gathering.
  • The future of cryptography may lead to less privacy and security.
  • Aspiring intelligence officers should seek knowledge and learn from experienced professionals.

Sound Bites

  • "I laundered over a hundred million dollars cumulatively."
  • "You can pocket millions of dollars and walk across borders."
  • "We're natural BS detectors as people."
  • "Criminals are nothing if not adaptive."
  • "They know what they're talking about."
  • "Roblox is a billion dollar economy a year."
  • "AI has taken scams to the next level."
  • "How do you trust anything that you can really keep private?"
  • "Learn from those who have done extraordinary things."
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