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June 19, 2025 51 mins

Pastor and author Sharon Hodde Miller joins Esau McCaulley for a surprising conversation about the live-action Lilo & Stitch and how a children’s film quietly captures the realities of single motherhood, economic pressure, and communal grace. Then, Esau and Sharon talk about the challenges of pastoring in a polarizing time and how their online persona compares to their pastoral persona. Also, we have a Disney movie draft and a winner is declared.

 

0:00 - Theme Song

 

1:25 - Disney Movie Draft

 

13:40 - Lilo and Stitch

 

15:48 - Why Does Sharon Prefer the Remake?

 

22:42 - Single Motherhood

 

25:03 - Sponsor - No Small Endeavor - Award-winning podcast where theologians, philosophers, and best-selling authors talk about faith with Lee C. Camp. Start listening today: https://pod.link/1513178238

 

27:10 - Being a Pastor with a Platform

 

40:45 - Free of Me

 

50:36 - End Credits

 

Free of Me: Why Life is Better When It’s Not About You by Sharon Hodde Miller:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0801075238?ref_=cm_sw_r_ffobk_cp_ud_dp_R7GWYC5AW573Y1AZXT64&bestFormat=true

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