May 17, 2025 • 15 mins
**This is a bonus episode. If you've not tuned in before, I recommend you start at Episode 1**⚡ Arthur Henry Davey was a librarian at the Guille-Allès Library in Guernsey when the deportation order came through. Despite spending just a short amount of his early life in the UK, he was added to the list of those who were later sent to Biberach internment camp.
💡 In this special bonus episode of the podcast, we learn about Arthur’s fascinating story - how he ended up setting up a ‘camp library’, and how the Library’s Board of Management decided to bank his salary while he was gone so it would be there when he returned.
🔎 Arthur’s story is part of an exhibition about the deportation, on display at the Guille-Allès Library. Open until 23rd June 2025.
⚙️ With special thanks to Adam Bayfield, Head of Marketing and Customer Services at the Guille Allez Library.
📍 Your host is Ollie Guillou. This is a Channel Islands Podcasts production.
✉️ Share your messages and memories; email hello@ogpodcasts.co.uk
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(00:02):
Life in the camp at Bibarak was tough, but as Ralph Godwin
pointed out in a previous episode, there was a generality
about day-to-day life. There was a school.
They put on theatre shows, they even had a camp library and
that's the subject of this story.
Welcome back to a bonus episode of The Guernsey Deportees.
(00:23):
So Arthur Davey was a librarian here at the Guilole Library.
That's Adam Bayfield, who I met at the Guilole Library, where
they have an exhibition dedicated to the deportation.
Part of this exhibition highlights the life of librarian
and deportee Arthur Davey, and his is a wonderful story of
human kindness and community spirit, which we'll get on to in
(00:46):
a moment. 1st, I just want to tell you a bit about the rest of
the exhibition which takes you on a journey through the past,
beginning with the 30th of June 1940 at the start of the
occupation, moving on to Hitler's deportation order and
later exploring how the deportees made a home in Bibarac
(01:06):
and the other internment camps. We've got a whole panel here
that's dedicated to keeping youridentity and the way they did
that through the arts and handicrafts, and we've got some
of those on display. We were just looking at it
earlier when we got a showcase here with objects that were
made, sort of decorative items and there's a woven bag and
different things that the internes made.
(01:29):
It's amazing to see the way theyhow creative and imaginative and
resourceful they were in making a life keeping their identity.
We've got photographs of the fancy dress parade and the
football matches that happened. And I think all of this is a
less well known part of the kindof Guernsey occupation story,
isn't it? And Second World War story.
(01:51):
So that's what the exhibition isreally bringing to life.
It's well worth a visit. It's open until the 23rd of June
2025. But the thing that really draws
us to the library for this storyis the librarian Arthur Henry
Davey. So let's find out more about
him. He actually ended up working
here for 50 years, so most of the first half of the 20th
(02:13):
century. And in 1942 when the deportation
order came, he'd been working atthe library for 29 years.
He was born in England, he was born in Croydon, but his family
were all from Guernsey. His parents were from Guernsey.
He had siblings who were born inGuernsey, cousins, uncles, you
know, well, Davy, as you know, is a very Guernsey name, was a
real Guernsey family. But his parents had moved to the
(02:35):
mainland for a few years and he had been born there.
But at this point, he's now wellinto his 40s, has been back in
Guernsey since the age of 6. He has got a wife and children,
you know, family of his own in Guernsey.
So I can imagine it was a real shock to him to be kind of
(02:56):
identified as being a Mainlanderand not a Guernsey man.
But the deportation order came through and he was his name was
listed as someone who would be deported so.
None of his his siblings, his parents wouldn't have been
identified. Literally just.
Him just him and his, his family.
(03:16):
So his his wife and children as well.
I, I, I guess because they had to go with him.
I, I, I, I assume so. He applied for an exemption and
we have the letter that came back from the Felt Commandante,
the German field commander, which just is his letter
reprinted with one word on it which says 9.
(03:38):
So it was denied. So he and his family were
amongst those who were sent to be Brat.
Yeah, so, so his he applied for the exemption on the fact that
he says I was born in England, but I'm not of the English
people. It's amazing because you do hear
stories of exemptions being granted and you'd think this
would be a really clear example of 1 where the answer would be
(04:01):
simple. He was there for a very short
period of time. So for him to have been
deported, I mean, it shows that probably they were just trying
to appease Hitler at this point.They needed to send some people.
They couldn't say they couldn't exempt everybody.
And I'm sure many people put in those exceptions.
Yes. I mean, it certainly seems
reasonable to apply for an exemption, but then I guess
it's, it's not really a reasonable process to be
(04:23):
deporting people in the 1st place.
So I presume they had a quota ofpeople that they needed to send
to satisfy his demands. So, so yeah, he, he went to be
back with his family. But it was something that's that
I find particularly fascinating that you can see there on in the
exhibition. We have some letters that were
sent via the Red Cross back hereto the Edoy Library, which is
(04:47):
why we still have them. So Arthur wrote to one of his
colleagues, another librarian, Mr. JP Warren, where he tells
him all about what life is like in Bibrac.
But the thing I find particularly fascinating is that
Arthur Davies seemingly still trying to do his job, what we
would call working remotely. Yeah, from Bibrac.
(05:07):
So there's a line in the letter where he says, he says to Mr.
Warren kindly order some good popular fiction books to the
value of £500 to be dispatched as soon as hostilities cease.
The expenditure has been grantedby the Board.
You don't expect to hear a storyof remote working from the
1940s, do you? Exactly.
Yeah. So, yeah.
But he clearly was, well, certainly was thinking about the
(05:30):
librarian still, you know, doinghis best to do his job.
And again, they didn't know how long this was going to be.
Perhaps, you know, at that point, maybe they thought it
wouldn't be for that long. And he was going to come back
again and, you know, and slip straight back into his his role
here at the library. And actually that in the end,
that is what happened because the the war and the internment
went on for longer than perhaps they initially might have
(05:53):
imagined. But when Arthur did come back to
Guernsey after the liberation, he found that the library's
board of management had kept hisposition open.
So his job was available. He could come straight back to
it and they'd actually continuedbanking the vast majority of his
salary during that time, so he had money to come back to as
(06:13):
well, which I know wasn't the case for everybody.
Yeah, that's really significant,I think, because as Doctor Jilly
Carr explains in the podcast, weknow that a lot of people came
back to the island with nothing.Their things have been looted,
stolen, destroyed. But actually what she says is
she believes many more people came back destitute than we know
about. So we we think it's a fraction
(06:35):
of those who came back, but it could be a much larger number.
So to to be able to come back tothe island with money, with a
position that must have been hugely significant for him and
his family, to be able to just continue their lives almost
where they left off in a. Yeah, no, I, I hadn't
appreciated that. How that, that was obviously
very unusual for the deportees. But yeah, he, he, as you say,
(06:57):
came back and was able to resumehis life as it had been.
And he actually, yeah, went backto the job he was in before and
stayed at the library and rose up the ranks and eventually
became assistant chief librarian, which at that time
was the kind of second most senior position in the library
and became that rather briefly, unfortunately, before he died in
(07:17):
in 1964. And he didn't just work remotely
while he was in the camp sendingletters back or demands to
order. Books, but.
There was also a library in the camp, so can you tell me he he
must have worked there for a little bit.
Yeah. So I, I don't know, we don't
know if if it was a library thathe set up himself or, or maybe
(07:41):
was involved in setting up, but he certainly, I would like to
imagine he probably was involvedin setting it up.
But he certainly in his letter to Mr. Warren says that he, he
had been working in the camp library, but he says now on pick
and shovel. So he was obviously doing
something more, you know, more kind of manual labour after
that. But yeah, was involved in the
library. And presumably that was also
(08:02):
part of that, trying to establish that sense of
normality in Bibrac, which it's hard to imagine how much it
would have felt like normality. But I think must have been so
important to the deportees to feel a connection to home and a
sense that they could make a life and make a life that had
(08:24):
entertainment and things to lookforward to.
And that must have been so important.
Do we know? Why the library chose to?
Hold his salary. And hold his position open
because actually that must have been difficult for them to do as
well in the middle of war time when I guess money was scarce.
Well, resources were scarce generally.
(08:45):
So why and how do do we understand?
Yeah. No, I've, I, I've wondered that.
And I mean, I, I think it, you know, I, I guess in the end it
comes down to they felt a sense of loyalty.
They felt, I mean, they must have had, they must have been
able to do that. Yeah, as you say, if, if it if
money had been so scarce that they simply couldn't have done
(09:06):
they, then it wouldn't have beenpossible.
But my best understanding is that, yeah, they just felt that
they if they were able to and that that was the right thing to
do. But it was a very difficult time
for the library in the occupation.
Again, this is maybe a a sort oflesser known story, but a really
interesting one that, you know, that the library did sort of
(09:26):
carry on as normal or as normal as possible during the
occupation. But it was a real kind of mixed
picture because on the one hand it was in quite restricted
conditions and it had never beentougher insight.
It was or the service was reallycut in a way that it hadn't been
before. They had to close off whole
floors of this building because they couldn't have the lights on
(09:49):
everywhere. So it it was really kind of
scaled down to just one or two rooms within this building.
And then also there was censorship.
So the Germans actually ordered a, they sort of gave quite a
long list of books that they considered to be of an anti
German nature that had to be removed.
And so the books were banned from the library.
So it was a very difficult time for the library on the one hand,
(10:09):
but on the other hand it actually became incredibly
popular during the occupation. There was real kind of rise in
usage, rise in popularity duringthat time because I guess
reading was one of the few formsof entertainment that was still
available. So they saw a real surge in
members and book loans, including from some German
soldiers, but actually mostly from locals where where sort of
(10:31):
some of them were coming to the library for the first time.
Yeah, and there's some other interesting tidbits about what
happened to the library during the occupation.
You mentioned to me earlier thatoften what they didn't, the
Germans didn't really look. Around the.
Library they never. Sort of.
Pulled it apart like they did other places, which is
fascinating because you'd think it would be a place that they
would want to scour, but as a result people hid things.
(10:54):
Yeah. I mean, I, I, I don't know the
answer as to why they didn't rigorously search the library,
but it seems like as the occupation went on, as life got
a bit tougher and people did start, there was a, a sense of
people kind of keeping contraband.
And the Germans were searching houses and, you know, and other
places, as you say, it seems to be the case that they never
(11:16):
really searched the library. And actually, some librarians
did start to hide things behind books and on dummy shelves,
including things like potatoes when food was becoming scarce.
But also we have a great note written by a librarian working
here in the late 1950s who climbed up a ladder to retrieve
some books from a high shelf that obviously I don't know what
(11:38):
books they were, but obviously hadn't been touched for a long
time. Called the books off and found a
cat's whisker crystal radio hidden behind there, which
obviously somebody had kind of concealed there during the
occupation and forgotten all about.
Forgot about it. Yeah.
No, it's amazing, and it really gives the library a rich
occupation history of its own. And it, you know, becomes a
(11:59):
really big part of the picture and a part of the story in that
way. Do you know how?
Quickly the library. Was able to get back on its.
Feet after the. Occupation with the so many
floors closed, I imagine it didn't return back to normal.
Yeah, no, it's a good question. And I think I guess this is sort
of part of the what collectivelywe're trying to do with the
(12:19):
Liberation Trail, which is this overarching exhibition that all
these different venues that I talked about is bring to life.
Some of the lesser known parts of the story, including the
recovery and the aftermath and what happened.
You know, it's easy to think, oh, Liberation Day is the sort
of end of the story. But actually, Guernsey didn't
just bounce straight back to normal.
Everyone had to sort of pick up the pieces after this incredibly
(12:41):
dark chapter, as as our exhibition is called.
And the library was no exceptionto that.
And it, yeah, sort of five yearsof service cuts.
And it had been a really difficult time.
But one thing that helped is that during the occupation, the
Jersey Society in London, so Channel Islanders that were
(13:02):
living in London, they appreciated that people back
home would not be getting good information about what was going
on, what what was happening during the war.
And that in a very forward thinking way thought, OK, when
this is over, we're going to need to make sure that they have
access to that information so they can find out what really
happened. So they started buying books
(13:23):
with the intention of giving them both to the Jersey Public
Library and also to here at the Gigolo Library.
So they started stockpiling books about sort of current
events as they were at the time.And by 1945 they'd stockpiled
over 1000 books for both islands.
So as soon as the war ended, they sent them over here and
there. So there were 1000 books or more
(13:45):
came into the library and peoplekind of flocked here to because
it was an opportunity now to find out everything that was
being kept from them, I suppose,and while the occupation was
going on. So that was a real boost to the
library and its recovery because, yeah, as I say, service
cuts, book bands, they didn't have much money to buy new
books, and then suddenly there was a real influx of really good
(14:05):
quality books that everybody wanted to read.
Well, it's been an absolute pleasure talking to you.
Thank you very much indeed. Thanks, Ollie.
If you're interested in reading about Arthur Davy and seeing
that exhibition, you've got until the 23rd of June 2025 to
check it out. In the next bonus episode, we
meet German journalist Yana Magdans, who was born in
(14:25):
Dorston, the transit camp the deportees were sent to before
Buberak. She's recently launched a report
on what happened on the German equivalent of the BBC.
Stay tuned for that. Thanks to your support, this
podcast has made it into the Apple Podcast Charts as one of
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If you haven't already, please subscribe to the show to boost
(14:48):
us further up the charts and getthis message out there.
I'm Olly Gu. Thanks for listening.
Life in the camp at Bibarak was tough, but as Ralph Godwin
pointed out in a previous episode, there was a generality
about day-to-day life. There was a school.
They put on theatre shows, they even had a camp library and
that's the subject of this story.
Welcome back to a bonus episode of The Guernsey Deportees.
(00:23):
So Arthur Davey was a librarian here at the Guilole Library.
That's Adam Bayfield, who I met at the Guilole Library, where
they have an exhibition dedicated to the deportation.
Part of this exhibition highlights the life of librarian
and deportee Arthur Davey, and his is a wonderful story of
human kindness and community spirit, which we'll get on to in
(00:46):
a moment. 1st, I just want to tell you a bit about the rest of
the exhibition which takes you on a journey through the past,
beginning with the 30th of June 1940 at the start of the
occupation, moving on to Hitler's deportation order and
later exploring how the deportees made a home in Bibarac
(01:06):
and the other internment camps. We've got a whole panel here
that's dedicated to keeping youridentity and the way they did
that through the arts and handicrafts, and we've got some
of those on display. We were just looking at it
earlier when we got a showcase here with objects that were
made, sort of decorative items and there's a woven bag and
different things that the internes made.
(01:29):
It's amazing to see the way theyhow creative and imaginative and
resourceful they were in making a life keeping their identity.
We've got photographs of the fancy dress parade and the
football matches that happened. And I think all of this is a
less well known part of the kindof Guernsey occupation story,
isn't it? And Second World War story.
(01:51):
So that's what the exhibition isreally bringing to life.
It's well worth a visit. It's open until the 23rd of June
2025. But the thing that really draws
us to the library for this storyis the librarian Arthur Henry
Davey. So let's find out more about
him. He actually ended up working
here for 50 years, so most of the first half of the 20th
(02:13):
century. And in 1942 when the deportation
order came, he'd been working atthe library for 29 years.
He was born in England, he was born in Croydon, but his family
were all from Guernsey. His parents were from Guernsey.
He had siblings who were born inGuernsey, cousins, uncles, you
know, well, Davy, as you know, is a very Guernsey name, was a
real Guernsey family. But his parents had moved to the
(02:35):
mainland for a few years and he had been born there.
But at this point, he's now wellinto his 40s, has been back in
Guernsey since the age of 6. He has got a wife and children,
you know, family of his own in Guernsey.
So I can imagine it was a real shock to him to be kind of
(02:56):
identified as being a Mainlanderand not a Guernsey man.
But the deportation order came through and he was his name was
listed as someone who would be deported so.
None of his his siblings, his parents wouldn't have been
identified. Literally just.
Him just him and his, his family.
(03:16):
So his his wife and children as well.
I, I, I guess because they had to go with him.
I, I, I, I assume so. He applied for an exemption and
we have the letter that came back from the Felt Commandante,
the German field commander, which just is his letter
reprinted with one word on it which says 9.
(03:38):
So it was denied. So he and his family were
amongst those who were sent to be Brat.
Yeah, so, so his he applied for the exemption on the fact that
he says I was born in England, but I'm not of the English
people. It's amazing because you do hear
stories of exemptions being granted and you'd think this
would be a really clear example of 1 where the answer would be
(04:01):
simple. He was there for a very short
period of time. So for him to have been
deported, I mean, it shows that probably they were just trying
to appease Hitler at this point.They needed to send some people.
They couldn't say they couldn't exempt everybody.
And I'm sure many people put in those exceptions.
Yes. I mean, it certainly seems
reasonable to apply for an exemption, but then I guess
it's, it's not really a reasonable process to be
(04:23):
deporting people in the 1st place.
So I presume they had a quota ofpeople that they needed to send
to satisfy his demands. So, so yeah, he, he went to be
back with his family. But it was something that's that
I find particularly fascinating that you can see there on in the
exhibition. We have some letters that were
sent via the Red Cross back hereto the Edoy Library, which is
(04:47):
why we still have them. So Arthur wrote to one of his
colleagues, another librarian, Mr. JP Warren, where he tells
him all about what life is like in Bibrac.
But the thing I find particularly fascinating is that
Arthur Davies seemingly still trying to do his job, what we
would call working remotely. Yeah, from Bibrac.
(05:07):
So there's a line in the letter where he says, he says to Mr.
Warren kindly order some good popular fiction books to the
value of £500 to be dispatched as soon as hostilities cease.
The expenditure has been grantedby the Board.
You don't expect to hear a storyof remote working from the
1940s, do you? Exactly.
Yeah. So, yeah.
But he clearly was, well, certainly was thinking about the
(05:30):
librarian still, you know, doinghis best to do his job.
And again, they didn't know how long this was going to be.
Perhaps, you know, at that point, maybe they thought it
wouldn't be for that long. And he was going to come back
again and, you know, and slip straight back into his his role
here at the library. And actually that in the end,
that is what happened because the the war and the internment
went on for longer than perhaps they initially might have
(05:53):
imagined. But when Arthur did come back to
Guernsey after the liberation, he found that the library's
board of management had kept hisposition open.
So his job was available. He could come straight back to
it and they'd actually continuedbanking the vast majority of his
salary during that time, so he had money to come back to as
(06:13):
well, which I know wasn't the case for everybody.
Yeah, that's really significant,I think, because as Doctor Jilly
Carr explains in the podcast, weknow that a lot of people came
back to the island with nothing.Their things have been looted,
stolen, destroyed. But actually what she says is
she believes many more people came back destitute than we know
about. So we we think it's a fraction
(06:35):
of those who came back, but it could be a much larger number.
So to to be able to come back tothe island with money, with a
position that must have been hugely significant for him and
his family, to be able to just continue their lives almost
where they left off in a. Yeah, no, I, I hadn't
appreciated that. How that, that was obviously
very unusual for the deportees. But yeah, he, he, as you say,
(06:57):
came back and was able to resumehis life as it had been.
And he actually, yeah, went backto the job he was in before and
stayed at the library and rose up the ranks and eventually
became assistant chief librarian, which at that time
was the kind of second most senior position in the library
and became that rather briefly, unfortunately, before he died in
(07:17):
in 1964. And he didn't just work remotely
while he was in the camp sendingletters back or demands to
order. Books, but.
There was also a library in the camp, so can you tell me he he
must have worked there for a little bit.
Yeah. So I, I don't know, we don't
know if if it was a library thathe set up himself or, or maybe
(07:41):
was involved in setting up, but he certainly, I would like to
imagine he probably was involvedin setting it up.
But he certainly in his letter to Mr. Warren says that he, he
had been working in the camp library, but he says now on pick
and shovel. So he was obviously doing
something more, you know, more kind of manual labour after
that. But yeah, was involved in the
library. And presumably that was also
(08:02):
part of that, trying to establish that sense of
normality in Bibrac, which it's hard to imagine how much it
would have felt like normality. But I think must have been so
important to the deportees to feel a connection to home and a
sense that they could make a life and make a life that had
(08:24):
entertainment and things to lookforward to.
And that must have been so important.
Do we know? Why the library chose to?
Hold his salary. And hold his position open
because actually that must have been difficult for them to do as
well in the middle of war time when I guess money was scarce.
Well, resources were scarce generally.
(08:45):
So why and how do do we understand?
Yeah. No, I've, I, I've wondered that.
And I mean, I, I think it, you know, I, I guess in the end it
comes down to they felt a sense of loyalty.
They felt, I mean, they must have had, they must have been
able to do that. Yeah, as you say, if, if it if
money had been so scarce that they simply couldn't have done
(09:06):
they, then it wouldn't have beenpossible.
But my best understanding is that, yeah, they just felt that
they if they were able to and that that was the right thing to
do. But it was a very difficult time
for the library in the occupation.
Again, this is maybe a a sort oflesser known story, but a really
interesting one that, you know, that the library did sort of
(09:26):
carry on as normal or as normal as possible during the
occupation. But it was a real kind of mixed
picture because on the one hand it was in quite restricted
conditions and it had never beentougher insight.
It was or the service was reallycut in a way that it hadn't been
before. They had to close off whole
floors of this building because they couldn't have the lights on
(09:49):
everywhere. So it it was really kind of
scaled down to just one or two rooms within this building.
And then also there was censorship.
So the Germans actually ordered a, they sort of gave quite a
long list of books that they considered to be of an anti
German nature that had to be removed.
And so the books were banned from the library.
So it was a very difficult time for the library on the one hand,
(10:09):
but on the other hand it actually became incredibly
popular during the occupation. There was real kind of rise in
usage, rise in popularity duringthat time because I guess
reading was one of the few formsof entertainment that was still
available. So they saw a real surge in
members and book loans, including from some German
soldiers, but actually mostly from locals where where sort of
(10:31):
some of them were coming to the library for the first time.
Yeah, and there's some other interesting tidbits about what
happened to the library during the occupation.
You mentioned to me earlier thatoften what they didn't, the
Germans didn't really look. Around the.
Library they never. Sort of.
Pulled it apart like they did other places, which is
fascinating because you'd think it would be a place that they
would want to scour, but as a result people hid things.
(10:54):
Yeah. I mean, I, I, I don't know the
answer as to why they didn't rigorously search the library,
but it seems like as the occupation went on, as life got
a bit tougher and people did start, there was a, a sense of
people kind of keeping contraband.
And the Germans were searching houses and, you know, and other
places, as you say, it seems to be the case that they never
(11:16):
really searched the library. And actually, some librarians
did start to hide things behind books and on dummy shelves,
including things like potatoes when food was becoming scarce.
But also we have a great note written by a librarian working
here in the late 1950s who climbed up a ladder to retrieve
some books from a high shelf that obviously I don't know what
(11:38):
books they were, but obviously hadn't been touched for a long
time. Called the books off and found a
cat's whisker crystal radio hidden behind there, which
obviously somebody had kind of concealed there during the
occupation and forgotten all about.
Forgot about it. Yeah.
No, it's amazing, and it really gives the library a rich
occupation history of its own. And it, you know, becomes a
(11:59):
really big part of the picture and a part of the story in that
way. Do you know how?
Quickly the library. Was able to get back on its.
Feet after the. Occupation with the so many
floors closed, I imagine it didn't return back to normal.
Yeah, no, it's a good question. And I think I guess this is sort
of part of the what collectivelywe're trying to do with the
(12:19):
Liberation Trail, which is this overarching exhibition that all
these different venues that I talked about is bring to life.
Some of the lesser known parts of the story, including the
recovery and the aftermath and what happened.
You know, it's easy to think, oh, Liberation Day is the sort
of end of the story. But actually, Guernsey didn't
just bounce straight back to normal.
Everyone had to sort of pick up the pieces after this incredibly
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dark chapter, as as our exhibition is called.
And the library was no exceptionto that.
And it, yeah, sort of five yearsof service cuts.
And it had been a really difficult time.
But one thing that helped is that during the occupation, the
Jersey Society in London, so Channel Islanders that were
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living in London, they appreciated that people back
home would not be getting good information about what was going
on, what what was happening during the war.
And that in a very forward thinking way thought, OK, when
this is over, we're going to need to make sure that they have
access to that information so they can find out what really
happened. So they started buying books
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with the intention of giving them both to the Jersey Public
Library and also to here at the Gigolo Library.
So they started stockpiling books about sort of current
events as they were at the time.And by 1945 they'd stockpiled
over 1000 books for both islands.
So as soon as the war ended, they sent them over here and
there. So there were 1000 books or more
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came into the library and peoplekind of flocked here to because
it was an opportunity now to find out everything that was
being kept from them, I suppose,and while the occupation was
going on. So that was a real boost to the
library and its recovery because, yeah, as I say, service
cuts, book bands, they didn't have much money to buy new
books, and then suddenly there was a real influx of really good
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quality books that everybody wanted to read.
Well, it's been an absolute pleasure talking to you.
Thank you very much indeed. Thanks, Ollie.
If you're interested in reading about Arthur Davy and seeing
that exhibition, you've got until the 23rd of June 2025 to
check it out. In the next bonus episode, we
meet German journalist Yana Magdans, who was born in
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Dorston, the transit camp the deportees were sent to before
Buberak. She's recently launched a report
on what happened on the German equivalent of the BBC.
Stay tuned for that. Thanks to your support, this
podcast has made it into the Apple Podcast Charts as one of
the top history podcasts in the UK.
If you haven't already, please subscribe to the show to boost
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us further up the charts and getthis message out there.
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