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February 25, 2025 72 mins

IN THIS EPISODE: It's TRUE CRIME served up FAMILY STYLE! You've heard DONNA HALL's side of what it was like growing up in a lower tier CRIME FAMILY. Now Donna's brother HERB tells his side of the John Hall story - and in incredible detail, too. It's a story about deep CORRUPTION in the PHILADELPHIA POLICE DEPARTMENT and DA's office.


SHOW NOTES

We've told the John Hall Story from my perspective. We've told it from a journalistic perspective - thanks to our friend, the journalist Tom Lowenstein. Now we get to tell it from my brother Herb's perspective.


And Herb's perspective is particularly insightful because, like our friend Walter Ogrod, Herb was one of John Hall's victims.


John had lots of legal liability. At the very same time that he was destroying Walter Ogrod's life (as we described in episode 5) and destroying the life of a man named David Dickson (a security guard accused of murdering a Drexel University student), he set out to destroy my brother Herb's life - in large part as payback for Herb preventing our younger sister from freezing to death.


As we described in episode 4, Herb ratted out my mom for abandoning our younger sister. The cops showing up made John angry. The press showing up made it worse. With Herb's case, John seems to have reached a kind of snitch's critical mass. Except, rather than explode, John's snitching career imploded. Most importantly, what happened to Herb broke the hold John Hall had on our family. This wasn't the end of our dance with John, but we could see now that the music was going to end. And John was going to be the one getting kicked to the curb.


Donna Hall



We cannot recommend highly enough that you buy and read Tom Lowenstein's "THE TRIALS OF WALTER OGROD". It contains lots of juicy details about John Hall and my family. You can buy it here at Amazon or here at Goodreads.


The Hall Closet is written by Donna Hall and A L Katz. Costard & Touchstone Productions produced it. Donna Hall and A L Katz are the executive producers.


CONTENT/TRIGGER WARNINGS: The Hall Closet is not intended for sensitive audiences. Domestic abuse, violence, child endangerment, adultery, explicit language.


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