June 30, 2025 • 66 mins
Mediumship, Ancestral Messages, and Spiritual Healing with Rachel Erin Bossio In Part 2 of this moving conversation, host Julienne Irons receives a live mediumship reading from psychic and energy healer Rachel Erin Bossio. Together, they explore messages from the spirit world, the emotional and energetic patterns of grief, and the sacred wisdom of ancestral connection. Sensitive topics, including grief and eating disorders, are discussed with care. This episode invites listeners into a deeply personal and transformative experience.
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Hey there, seeker.
Just a heads up.
This episode explores spiritualcommunication, mediumship,
and the energetic presenceof those who have passed on.
We speak with the practicing mediumabout connecting with the spirit world,
ancestral messages and personal readings.
Please note that parts of thisepisode touch on sensitive
topics, as shared through messagesreceived during the reading.
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While the conversation may offercomfort and insight, it may also
stir deep feelings or questionsabout grief and the afterlife.
We invite you to listen withopenness and self-compassion, and
if you need a break, take one.
We'll be here when you get back.
Hey, seekers and welcome backto the Hanged Woman Podcast.
I'm your host Julienne Irons, andthis is part two of our conversation
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with Medium Rachel Erin Bossio.
Now, if you haven't listened to partone yet, I highly recommend going back
because we explored the energetic sideof death, what it means to connect with
the other side, and how mediumship canhelp us grieve, heal, and even grow.
So today's episode is something alittle different and deeply personal.
Rachel offers me a medium ship reading andyou'll hear what it's like to be on the
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receiving end of a connection with spirit.
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Okay, so I'm just gonnafeel into your energy.
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We have a female, I feel herenergy a little stronger than the
others right now, so I feel theyare all kind of in agreeance that
she is who needs to step forward.
But the first thing that shekind of said was like, Hey, you.
Very subtle.
She has a really peaceful energy and Ithink she's trying to be gentle for me.
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I get that about her nature.
Okay,
so I'm just kind of gonna fillinto that nature that gentleness
feels very.
Kind of, I guess the word is responsible.
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Sure.
She keeps kind of showing me her,
like her, she's fashionable.
Okay.
She's just like, like you got like,come on, see the whole thing here?
The whole picture.
It's.
Oh boy.
Okay.
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So she's, she is very subtle with herenergy for me because she is a big
energy and she was that on earth, right?
Yeah.
So she's like, let me tone it down,let me pull it all in together.
And she keeps saying, baby girl.
Mm.
Okay.
And I feel a sense, I don't, it's funny'cause she keeps, I feel a sense of
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motherhood and responsibility for you.
But she's not.
Right.
Right.
And I also feel this
deep throughout all time.
I mean, many lives offriendship and closeness.
Okay.
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She's talking about all the baby girls.
Okay.
See them.
'cause she's listing them.
Oh my God.
Are there three?
It's so fast.
Because here's the thing, theperson who I think you're talking
about, I can understand they'rebeing like more than three.
Like there's like, I guessI just didn't need to know.
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Everyone's her baby girl.
She feels like she is trying tocommunicate with, in the sense of,
of very specifically three people.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
And this is, she keepsshowing like this my soul.
Right?
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Okay.
She's showing me Jays,see if she'll give me one.
She okay.
She's going really fast.
She's listing like everybody.
I'm gonna try to adjust one imageat a time, so I keep getting the
letter J. That could representyou, or it could be her name.
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I didn't ask her.
It's just what she showed.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Right.
But it feels significantthroughout everyone.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Now I'm conflicted on who it is.
So this
I, I just asked for, for you?
Yeah.
This your sister.
Okay.
I got no.
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Oh, so I am gonna muscle test it.
Okay.
Okay.
Is that who you thought that it was?
No.
Okay.
So, okay.
Yeah, no.
All right.
So why does she feel, is this a I So whereshe's standing behind you almost feels.
Like she's right in cousin,friend, auntie, and I feel she
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kind of engulfed all of it.
Yeah, sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
More like, like, yeah.
Friend, sister, but like chosen sister.
Yeah.
She's really funny.
She says, I'm so glad you did thisbecause now I don't have to haunt you.
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And she said she'll get that.
That's me.
I feel a sense of life of theparty from her, but also she could
step back and let others be that.
Mm-hmm.
And she, it was like sheintuitively knew when, right?
Mm-hmm.
She knew when you needed to shine.
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She knew when someoneelse needed to shine.
And I get that like vibe of.
I don't wanna use the terminology, butshe keeps saying it like, ride or die.
That's what we do for each other.
Right.
I'm so glad you said that.
Yes.
Why you moping around for me.
Why do you, why do you mope aroundfor me that sadness doesn't do you any
good, and it doesn't do me any good.
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Yeah.
Okay.
I know you love me.
I love you too.
It's reciprocated.
This is a reciprocal thingand it keeps us connected.
Yeah.
So it's okay to let those feelingscome and it's okay to let them go.
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Yeah.
You're
not honoring me by hurting for me.
Okay.
Now I'm just gonna ask hersomething really quick.
So her passing,
I'm just gonna fill into it.
She's a little I don't wanna usethe word closed off, but hesitant.
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Does that resonate for that passing?
I don't know if I understand
like
where she wouldn't wanna share it.
Mm,
mm-hmm.
Okay.
So I'm not gonna force her.
I'm gonna let her justshare what she wants to.
Yeah.
I do feel shock.
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That's a big emotion with this one.
Yeah.
And oddly, the word passionatekeeps kind of coming or like
passion keeps coming forward.
Regarding her passing,
it feels like that, but I'm gonnadifferentiate real quick and
see if that's what she means.
She says yes.
So this person feels very open to a lotof different beliefs and ways of life.
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She's kind of like a no judgment.
Do you?
And, yeah.
Even though I feel like she tookfrom, everyone's like, she just
trusted you guys do the research,you do the feelings and all of that,
and I'll just, I'll be a part of it.
But I feel like you could have reallydeep conversations with her too.
Absolutely.
And it always like reached backto the same place of loyalty.
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Absolutely.
She's still not readyto share her passing.
She gave me a few emotions of it.
Mm-hmm.
And it feels like there's guilt with it.
Mm.
Is that your guilt or is that hers?
I'm sure both of us have somesort of guilt when it comes
to it for different reasons.
Yeah.
There's something she is showing tome and it, it feels part of a saying.
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It's almost like she's saying,you're saying leading a horse to
water, but you can't make it drink.
Okay.
Yeah.
And then I, I hear the word helpand it's not a cry out for help.
There was feeling of everyonewanted to help, but wasn't sure
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where or what that looked like.
Okay.
Yeah.
Uh, yeah.
Your job was to love me.
And you did it.
Yeah.
Okay.
You did it.
I felt truly loved by my girls.
By my baby girls.
She can name my baby girls.
Don't forget baby girls.
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That was enough for me.
And that's enough from you.
You did your part.
Okay.
Yeah.
Now
her spirit life, I am askingabout, because I'm curious because
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she has so much personality.
Yeah.
So it feels like she, this is interesting.
A teacher who alsoreceives the lessons, okay?
Mm-hmm.
And that's because of whatshe experienced in this life.
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Along with her passing,they're encompassing.
Mm-hmm.
So she's kind of explaining it,you know, when your heart is there,
but your mind, you can't justget your mind on track with it.
They were beaten on two different,you know, pages all the time.
Mm-hmm.
And
there was a point in time whereI couldn't get out of this.
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Mm-hmm.
Okay.
And so I'm learning howto work the two in unison.
So as she's learning, she's alsogifting it to her baby girls
and her loved ones on earth.
Mm-hmm.
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So the lessons that she learns, she.
Almost, it feels like she sends thatmessaging to you guys in your own lives.
Okay.
Yeah,
and she shows me it's received.
There's so much more consciousnessabout everyday living, and
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she's taking credit for it.
She's like, that's me.
So.
So I keep hearing the word tragedy,
so it feels like that has todo with her passing, that it
was sudden and it was tragic.
It was.
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She says, you can say it was senseless.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah.
You don't have to worry about my pain.
It was made into love.
Okay, that pain, it's not with meanymore, and the only people that
carry it for me are you guys on earth.
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But I don't want you to carry it.
I want you to carry the love.
I want you to transmute it andturn it into something that
can be spread throughout.
Is there a trip?
It feels, I don't wanna, I hear the wordtrip, but I'm not seeing it visually.
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Mm-hmm.
So it either hasn't taken place,or it took place, and she hasn't
shown me the memory of it just yet.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
Mm-hmm.
She's making some type ofvery philosophical joke here.
Something about takingtrips and the word trip.
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The word trip, and we take trips to takeus away from what we're tripping on.
That's what she's saying, okay?
The goal is to live our life.
Okay?
As if we're on that trip.
Not in the trip.
We're not tripping on whenwe're going to, when we're on
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vacation, when we're on a trip.
It's, it's love.
It's having a good time.
It's you're, you'regentle with each other.
You're gentle with yourself,and that's what she's saying.
That is the key to life.
That's the key.
And the gift that I want you toknow, those trips meant something
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to me because it took awayeverything we were tripping on.
We worked through it togetheror it just disappeared really.
It went into the clouds and then we returnand we find something else to trip on.
So the key is to always try to findthat feeling that you feel when you're
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on, when you are on those trips.
Right.
And I think that's agreat guidance for life.
For all of us.
'cause I, I feel this.
Says, I love you.
You do.
You And she's saying, you do you baby.
Do you baby?
I feel like there's music, but I can'tquite like, feel into what it is.
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It's almost island music.
I feel like this is like,
is this where you guys went on the trip?
Is that what she's, she's kind ofjust doing a little groove for me.
It feels significant.
So we'll just hold onto that.
Do you have any questions for her?
Honestly, I just wanna know if there'sanything she wants us to tell Deb,
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That I lived my
life and she needs to live hers.
This feels
there's a lot of grief here.
Mm. She's really.
Mm. Emphasizing her ownershipin her life and the path.
Okay.
And she's kind of pointing toher death for some, became the
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center point for others' lives.
Right.
And she's saying, don't put that on me.
Don't put it on me.
Yeah.
I made choices.
I live with them, I'm learning from them,
and you're all gonna see me again andit's gonna be a party like it always was.
And then it's all love Like, all loveIt feels like that's what she's saying.
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All love.
I'm filling into another energy.
I feel like you got alot of female energies.
Yeah.
Yeah.
On this side.
And it feels, I will say, I, I, whenI feel this, it goes throughout time
and space, so it feels like, uh,your records, your divine records.
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Date back with these women and thatwomen, that bloodline of feminine energy
runs very deep in your, in your family.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And this one is, it is a female, Ifeel a little timid in her presence
and not by her.
It's.
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She's very, very wise very intelligent.
I can feel it and almostsee it off of her.
Okay.
Mm. So this is, it feels like thiswas a sudden passing, so I, I'm gonna
throw this out there because I havelike a raging headache right now,
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and it doesn't feel like it's mine.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
And this is from.
This is from the passing.
Yeah.
And it almost feels ticking.
Like a ticking, like a ticking time off.
Okay.
Hmm.
There's a pressure that isn't like anormal headache and that's what I feel.
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Yeah.
I hear almost this internalized ticking.
Hmm.
Are you okay?
Mm-hmm.
I feel like she, she had headaches a lot.
Mm-hmm.
It feels like this was maybe undiagnosed.
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Yeah.
They were bad.
I mean, they were like, kind ofhad to stop all things even though
she still would push through.
Yeah.
I feel this devotion, what she did inthis life that she, it's almost like
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she couldn't let this, that headachekeep her from what she needed to do.
Makes a hundred percent sense.
I see awards.
Wow.
Yeah.
Well, she showed me two awards thatshe says is, are the best awards?
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Mm.
The greatest awards of my life.
Mm.
My soul is shared with my children.
Mm.
And she
says, you know that?
Mm-hmm.
You know that you see it?
Mm, mm-hmm.
Yeah.
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I don't want them to live likethey have to make me proud.
I don't want that tobe their driving force.
Yeah.
And so as I connect my soul with themand they're, they're a piece of my soul,
that's more to help them be individualand be guided by their own divine light.
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'cause she said she's seen itin them of a long time ago.
Yeah.
And it's kind of weird becauseI feel this spirituality from
her, but it's very rigid.
It's rigid in the sense that shealso combines it with physical
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intelect or
Hmm.
Science.
Really?
Hmm.
Does that make sense?
I, I think so.
Yeah.
She kind of prides herself in thatbecause I don't think there's a lot of
people and it doesn't feel, she feltvery alone in that, in her line of work
that there's a spiritual aspect to it.
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Whereas everyone was very science-based.
Right?
Sure.
And a lot of people didn't go that deep,but she always kind of had this deepness.
Really?
Yeah,
absolutely.
This depth to her?
Yeah.
It feels, she's just kind ofshowing me this feels like mother
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mm, like,
like a shared mother.
And that just feels like
this is how she's kind of showing me.
'cause it feels deep.
So mom is the roots.
You were all the branches ofwhat came from that growth below.
Mm. And she instilled it inevery, it's in every ring,
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throughout every branch, right?
Mm-hmm.
And she says that's, that's thedepth that I can't take credit
for it 'cause it's not mine.
Mm-hmm.
It feels like she's saying,mama raised us in joy and the
word joy to me means something.
But the way she's showing me.
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Is like little girls playing and laughingand finding the silliest things to
laugh about and also like helping mom.
I feel a lot of thatresponsibility from everyone.
Yes.
And so much alike, but so independent.
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Each of you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
She wants to talk about the witch wounds.
Okay.
I think you guys know they're there.
Yeah.
This isn't the reason I passed, but itis a part I, it feels responsibility
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for everyone to remove this woundfrom everyone to take it upon myself.
Mm-hmm.
Does that make sense?
I feel mom is a powerfullittle being herself.
I think this woman has made magicthroughout all the time, and
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it's been witnessed in this life.
So this isn't, it doesn't feel karmic.
Her passing.
It feels kind of, Ivolunteer as tribute, right?
That's what it feels like to take all thatsuffering and pain off of you throughout
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the next many lives that you will live.
To take those contracts and burn themto remove anything that is binding
and holding your sister's back.
Hmm.
From your power really and fromall the generational lines, because
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I feel there's, I feel there'slittle ones spread out all over.
Is that right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So they have it too, andshe freed them of it.
She freed you.
Okay.
This was her soul's choice.
So
I'm just gonna ask her because.
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She's showing me so vividly.
I hear the word omega a lot and I'mjust trying to see why it's echoed.
You guys will come into that.
Just remember the word omega.
It's gonna, it's gonna comethrough in some way for you all.
Okay?
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And it's, it's like something withinall of you that you're gonna discover.
And really lean into,
wow, okay, is this person gorgeous?
Because oh my gosh, I was seeing herat almost as a silhouette, right?
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Mm-hmm.
Because she's not about that vanityor, and, but ooh, she's gorgeous.
Yes, she's
yes she
is.
Her eyes are just.
How do you not know Heaven existsfrom, from looking at her, right?
Yeah.
It feels like there's,
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she's showing something.
Is this run in your family?
Like, BES
twos, are you a twin?
Oh shit, no, I'm not atwin, but we have twins.
In your family?
Yeah.
My nieces,
oh my God,
my nieces are identical twins.
I love that
they have very strong, intuitive senses.
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Did everyone come intospirituality after her passing?
Yeah.
I mean at the level that we're at now.
Absolutely.
This is the story.
Yeah.
She's played a part in it.
You needed the strength, you neededthat togetherness, that it feels
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woven and you needed to know thaton the other side, it still exists.
That weaving amongst allof you is still there.
And that is, she is your connection.
She is your portal.
She is your bridge.
Yeah.
And it's more about into your true selves.
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'cause she says, I feel yourfamily so talented in so many ways.
And that can get misconstrued, right?
Yeah.
But this is the true honoring.
Of the self, and I feelit with all of you.
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This is where you are beingauthentic and it's not.
It's not beautiful always.
Right?
Healing and energy and the ether and theastral, all of it is deeper than that.
She's showing the shadows.
Every one of you has a shadowyou're working through.
Yeah.
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But that is where you reach.
That enlightenment, that is where youfind yourself back to the The Omega.
She's saying
the omega
because it's within you all.
Okay.
Okay.
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So I feel sadness, but she's notfocusing on it in the sense where
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it's holding her back in any way.
Right.
Because our grief and our sadness,when we don't move it, it it stays
and it also kind of stays within them.
Mm-hmm.
But I, I don't, I don't feel that, Ido feel that everyone is honoring their
emotions and their sadness and theirgrief, but that there's celebration.
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Yeah.
This is also with her family.
What
do you
mean?
It feels like with her children.
Mm-hmm.
it feels like there's a man,but I feel like he's slightly
closed off from everything.
Mm. But he does, he accepts it,but he is not like fully there.
Mm-hmm.
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Does that make
sense
into like the celebration aspect of it or?
Yes.
I don't know.
I think that like when we're with him.
There is celebration.
Yeah.
But I don't know where he is,when he is by himself in his,
yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
He feels very intelligent as well.
Yeah.
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This was spiritual growth forhim because he is reaching out to
something outside of what, what heallowed himself to believe, right?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
And there's like a sense of.
For, for him.
You can fake it till you make it.
Mm-hmm.
Right.
And this reading isn't for him.
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She's just kind of showing so everyonecan understand where his grief lies.
Yeah.
And how intricate he is in the growthof their children, and really the
livelihood of her spirit on earth.
Yeah.
Okay.
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She keeps saying, beautiful man.
My beautiful man, like beautifulis what she's using to describe
you were very much in love.
Yes, and it was beautiful love.
And you know, she feels at peace.
I think that the hardest partis accepting that, but for her.
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She feels just very, I feel like sheeven took care of other people and really
took pride in that.
I get like a, she keeps kind ofdoing this like, so I don't know if
that was like kind of her thing whenshe set somebody straight or said
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something, but there is a finger point.
It feels significant to her.
Mm-hmm.
What she did on this earth feels likeshe continues it in the afterlife.
Yeah.
Okay.
It feels important because it is helpingsouls who had a much darker path.
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We almost had a block of self.
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
And she's doing that in the afterlife.
Wow.
Yeah.
It's an exchange.
This is something she just understandsthe way we think we behave.
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And then her spiritual side ofit is what is teaching them,
where it was lost, where that.
Disconnect happened in their life.
You know what's kind of funny is I feel
the presence that was here before,I feel that Sister helps her.
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I feel that there's an understandingof that sadness that, that she endured.
It was masked.
It feels like in passionand And that makes sense.
She wants you to know she, shelooks after her, she teaches her.
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And she also wants it to beknown because I just said that,
that she's not just the teacher.
She learns too.
So everything there is an exchange.
It's give and take.
And that's what.
Isn't always present in our life on earth.
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We feel taken advantage of.
We feel we give, we give, we give.
She is not someone who felt that way.
And I think because of that, her workwas really beautiful and profound
because she didn't need someoneto tell her that she helped them.
And because of that, she wasrewarded greatly by that.
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It feels unconditional.
She had compassion.
Yeah.
So
do you have questions for her?
You know, I, I wanna goback to the witch wound.
Can you first explainwhat the witch wound is?
A witch wound is aintergenerational or personal,
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even a collective wound or trauma
that stems back from thehistorical persecution of
those accused of witchcraft.
And they were primarily women.
This was a timeframe called the burningtimes, and a lot of women carry this
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wound a lot were magic wielders.
They were healers andhad strong intuition.
A lot of these women were just.
Women who were different and didn'tfollow societal norms or programming.
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They were even some justspinsters and not married women
and they were considered weird.
And these women wereostracized from society.
They were.
Persecuted and killed.
They were ran out of towns.
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And spit on, there's, there's a lotof trauma that took place from this
timeframe and even before let's talkabout how that looks in your current life.
So a witch wound
it's deep rooted in fear.
It can look like being afraid of yourpower, showing your power to others having
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a reluctance to like speak your truth ortrying to please others and having that
fear of being judged or being successful.
So how do we go abouthealing the witch wound?
How you heal it?
Well, I would say first of all istrying to find a way to reclaim
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your personal power, right?
Embracing your authentic selfand all of what that entails.
Like all of your weirdness and justbeing you, finding ways to speak your
truth that aligns with who you are.
You know, this wound isdifferent for everyone.
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It can be from past lives andit can be intergenerational.
And what that means is that it'spassed down through families and
culture, the different cultures.
So when we talk about how to healit, like with any type of healing.
Healing isn't linear.
Layers are gonna come up.
Different traumas exist fromdifferent timeframes, different lives.
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We've lived some, not even our ownsome are just passed down through
our bloodline and healing it.
I would recommend find ahealer that is well-versed in.
Past life regressions or healingthe self from, uh, limiting beliefs
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and someone who can take you backthrough your Akashic records.
But it does start with you firstacknowledging, and reclaiming
your power as you heal.
and what was a witch woundfor our family specifically?
The witch wound that came forward withyour sister your sister who passed on.
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She had brought up that, her passing inthis life did have a tie contractually to.
To releasing a wound, a generationalwound for you and your sisters.
So when I get into that into yourrecords, to your line, I find.
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That it was a DNA witchwound, it feels like it came
through on your mother's side.
I feel a little bit oflike European bloodline.
But I don't feel that that's wherethis wound for you guys came from.
It does feel very.
Indigenous.
So when I asked for a timeframe of whenthis, this magic and , these healing
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properties came about in your bloodline.
I got around the 13 hundreds.
I did get that this could have been ofAfrican descent back from that area.
It feels African based.
It feels indigenous to that landand it carried through for many
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many generations.
And it typically was in the men.
That's where when I first askedlike, where did the magic come from?
Where did these, supernaturalabilities, where did it start?
And I saw mostly men.
I saw a lot of ceremonies andI saw a lot of plant medicine.
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I saw a lot of weathermanipulation psychic abilities.
And back then this.
Was a form of political power if you hadthe ability to control or or manipulate
weather and people for good, providingprotection for a group of people.
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That's where I saw it mostly.
So when I asked for your specificbloodline, it seems like.
This main wound came from whatI would consider a high priest.
He did seem powerful in thesense of he was in control, uh,
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whether he'd be a king or a chief.
I'm gonna go with chief.
That's what it felt moreover a group of people.
A tribesman that they all look to forhealing, for guidance, for answers from
the stars, from from their ancestors, and.
When I asked if he wasthe only one I, I got no.
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And I asked to see theothers that had this ability.
And what I saw was that the mostpowerful from this timeframe, and
this is, I'm gonna save around now,16 hundreds to 18 hundreds, maybe
even 19 hundreds in your bloodline.
So this main wound that your sisterspoke to us about talked about.
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Or what I could see involved, uh, a manwho was the chief and his two sons, and
they were pretty big magic wielders.
They were healers, they were guides.
They used the stars a lot.
They just understood andwielded power from not only.
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The Earth mother Gaia, butfrom the astral beings.
This power became political in a sense.
There was a lot of battlesand fighting for territory.
tribes were beginning to be influencedby colonial settlers and religion.
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This man, this chief in particularrelated to you, had the ability
of sight, so foresight, andhe could see what was coming.
He could see a battle was comingthat he was probably gonna lose.
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So it was decided that.
The supernatural abilities, thegifts needed to be transferred.
And what I saw was that this magic wasgonna be split amongst his six daughters.
So some type of ceremony was performed.
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Before they were attacked by othertribes and by the colonial settlers.
This chief, in order to protectthe magic and protect his people
transferred the magic and thesupernatural abilities that he had and
that his sons had two his daughters.
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And when I asked how manythere were, I got six.
I got six daughters.
And it was split amongst them.
It was spread out.
So each having at least a gift or twoand they all differed from one another.
These women his daughterswere fearful of this.
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They did not want it.
They considered it a curse.
Why is because women didn'thold the same value as men?
And they knew that.
And they also, you know, in thattimeframe of that transfer of, of gift
they witnessed their, their father, theirchief, and their brothers be murdered.
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Their tribe was, ravaged and they werefearful of what was coming for them.
And they were fearful because theydidn't know how to control it.
They weren't taught magic,it was just bestowed on them.
So
women have a tendency to cometogether, especially sisters, right?
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I saw these six sisters come togetherputting each of their abilities together,
kind of creating a more powerful force.
And I think they felt safe in that.
They knew that another war wasinevitably coming and that they would
probably lose once their villageand their people and their tribe
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was split up, they were shunned.
They were kind of kickedout of that society.
That new blended tribe.
Because people were afraid thatthey would be persecuted because
they, they were gonna be persecuted.
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They were outcasted and inthat they had to survive.
So what they chose to do wasin secret teach others magic.
Teach others how to heal.
While they also healed others, peoplecame to them by word of mouth and they
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also became entertainers with theirabilities, their gifts, and spell casters.
They did what they needed tofor survival and they were
eventually all killed for this.
As other tribes and religionbegan to take hold over this land
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witches what they considered to bewitches healers were eradicated.
Now, how it really comesdown to your DNA is that.
There was an eldest sisterof the six who became what we
would call a high priestess.
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She had owl chemical abilities.
She was a healer.
She was very connected to motherGaia and the astral planes.
She knew and she tried in manydifferent lives that you had together.
She tried to spread andmove this wound, this curse.
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She thought if she spread themagic, that it would become
less of a curse amongst you.
I saw other lives where she triedto contain it all in herself, and
none of these practices helped.
The initial wound.
Right.
So you all still carried it and itstill went through your lineage.
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Followed you through your other lives.
Each life you guys lived,you discovered a gift.
In some form or way, you were plagued bythe ghost of the initial wound, right?
So in your lives in many past lives andthrough your lineage, there was the wound,
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it manifested as loss feeling powerless,having doubt of yourself and your power.
Ridicule being outcasted,considered different being widowed
or divorced, losing the men inyour life, or relationships.
Souring, there was alot of oppression and.
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Depression manifested asanxiety or a lot of self-doubt.
I did witness a lot of experienceswith men as aggressors and that
kind of contributed to that likepowerless feeling and voiceless.
I did witness some lives whereyou were actually voiceless.
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You were mute.
So your communication wasn't thereand in that you don't have power.
Right.
And there's a lot to be learned from thoselives, but we were focusing on that main
wound that your sister spoke on and beforeshe came to this life, she chose to.
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Contractually, like shemade a soul contract
to all of her soul family torelease this wound to end it.
And that is what we found.
That's what came forward.
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That's what she was talkingabout that her passing.
It had other meaning.
There were other things I could feelthere was other meaning behind it, but
one of the big ones was to release yourwhole family lineage from the wound,
from that witch wound so that you allin this life can step into your power.
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And I, I feel like you allknow that's manifesting.
Like you feel it, you allare coming into your gifts.
You're not afraid of them.
You're not afraid to put them out thereand be who you are, your authentic selves.
It's, it takes time, ittakes practice, and also
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it takes you accepting the ending.
Of this wound.
So your sister wants you to acknowledgethat it's over and accept that it's over
and it will be cleared in this lifetime.
And that can look many different ways.
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You guys can get together, you girls, and.
Have a ceremony all put your input inof, of what that release looks like.
You could have a little bonfire.
You can, uh, release it by burning papersof, of that oppression, the voicelessness.
You can write those words orfeelings or beliefs and release them.
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You can see the wound itselfin your mind's eye and release
it in a meditation together.
The point is you need to seeit be gone, whether it be in a
physical way or a meditative way.
You can do it together.
You can do it individually,you can do both.
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I think knowing in your hearts thatit's released is gonna be the biggest.
The biggest way for you all.
You're all gonna see themanifestation of that.
You're gonna see more power,you're gonna feel lighter in your
lives, in your current lives, and
tears will be shed, you'll,you'll release those emotions,
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but you'll feel strong after.
And I just wanted toshare that with you guys.
And I wanted to express my gratitudefor trusting me to work with your
sister in spirit and with your ancestralline who were so open and loving.
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And with the sixth plane who allowedme to access Akashic records.
Through the laws of cause and effect andthe laws of time, I was able to access
that on your behalf, and I am verygrateful for that and I feel very honored
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and I hope that you guys take this andyou really feel released and cleared,
and I hope it manifests in areally beautiful way for you all.
I have one more question formy sister, and I wonder if she
wants me to talk to her more.
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Of course,
She understands though,why you don't Yeah.
You're still in a pocket of grief.
Yeah.
That it almost swings from anger andkind of an not, I don't wanna say the
word doom, but a deep, dark sorrow.
Yeah.
(51:26):
And you try to avoid it, right?
Yeah.
And that's okay.
She says It's okay.
This is our growth together, but let mehelp you call out to me because I'm in
spirit and that means I'm an angel helper.
And who more do I wanna help my sisters?
You know, I can help Joe over there,but it's not gonna feel the same.
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It's not gonna give thatsame growth to us both.
So call out to her.
Talk to her because she is right there.
Okay.
And she does talk a littlesmack about how you keep
clean,
but I keep clean.
Oh, I get what she's saying.
Okay.
I misinterpreted that.
Hmm.
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It's interesting.
She used this word, but that'sthe word that came through.
So we're like talking throughlike a tempered glass, right?
That clean.
It's not your place, . It'sthe space of you.
So there's a heaviness that isn't sister.
It's a part of your soul growth.
I think , this has helped you growinto knowing yourself and just
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taken off the gloves, taken offthe mask, and be raw and real.
And you're cleaning up thatspace and it takes time.
, I feel like you're gonna have aresolution, I feel like there's gonna
be clarity and that space is clean.
You're gonna feel her.
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Your senses are gonna wake up like that.
She's showing me this gift of mediumship.
It is not to me alone.
You have it in you,
is the heaviness.
Something that I picked up.
It feels like it is something,an event, an aspect of life.
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You think it changed you in a dark way.
Yeah.
But this was the path
that almost empower you toface demons, literally and win.
Wow.
To find, because it's shadowed.
It's blanketed over you.
It's dark, but it's not yours.
(53:41):
But you're holding it like it is.
Right.
Yeah,
this is, this is to teach you foryour growth, for your light, because
your light is more powerful than this.
So you're going through, you'rein the shadows right now, and you
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know, they talk like there's thosebuzz words shadow work, right?
This is real shadow work and the,the thing with this shadow is
that it doesn't just involve you.
It almost feels like it involveslike, I don't wanna say it 'cause I
don't wanna scare you, but it's not,it's not anything to be afraid of.
I don't want you to be afraidof dark energies, but this is
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a human form of an incubus.
So
la Yeah.
You face demons every single day.
You may feel the heaviness of them.
You may feel it walking down the street.
You may feel it in yourlife from this one.
That's only becauseyour light is so bright.
(54:49):
Okay.
It's almost like when you're afraidof something, you just almost
attach to it for it not to see you.
Right?
Yeah.
That's what that's doing.
You're, you're more powerful than this.
And that's what sister wants you to know.
And you're gonna find that light.
I, I feel like you've come acrossit a few times, But I feel, you
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feel like you can't hold onto it.
Like you need your hands for somethingelse, but that light doesn't need you, it.
It lifts inside of you.
It's not, it doesn't needto be held by anything.
It just needs to be
upfront.
She says The funny thing is thateverybody can see it but you.
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But that's what peoplewho are lightworkers, who
come to fight the shadows.
That's what they do.
That's what they see.
They're in battle so much and, andunder armor that they don't, they
forget their own light, right?
That they have it . So youcan take off that armor.
That light is your armor.
(55:55):
You don't have to protect yourselffrom this darkness at all.
'cause it can't win against you,and it's gonna be a big thing.
I think you know that, and Ithink that's part of the fear.
I feel it almost feels tied torelationships and people and, and
acquaintances, and you don't have tobe ashamed or embarrassed of anything.
(56:21):
You're light.
They're lucky to have it in that city.
It's the only thing thatis keeping it afloat.
Do you understand?
Yeah.
Their light is what's protectingthem, whether they know it or not,
whether they even, whether theystill succumb to their darkness.
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Your light's still thereprotecting even those, even
those that have lost their way.
You are the lighthouse.
You're the ones sticking upout of the fog, turning like,
Hey, this is a safe haven.
I'm here.
I can protect you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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This is the time.
This is the place right now,in this moment where you
find yourself it's strong.
Believe that I can feelit, and I, I don't.
Between your energy and yoursisters, what are the words?
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There's a benevolence.
In your family, in your guys'light, that is meant to be
here, right here, right now.
And sometimes we are the ones that gothrough the hardest, hardest challenges
we face, the hardest darkness thatwe wake up to, but there's that
light in you, and I know you find itin so many ways, but you think it's
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from other people, but it's yours.
You like, still wannagive it to other people.
'cause you're so giving and you're justlike, oh, that's theirs, that's all.
I'll, oh, they're so light.
They're a light of my life.
You're the light of everyone's,
It's okay to own it.
Is this a big sister?
Is she.
Because she's like kind of like, almostlike I taught you to be tougher than this.
(58:12):
I taught you, you know, kind of likeI roughed you up enough to know how to
get through this and see it within you.
And there was a reason for that, I guess.
But her lights with you, you havea force behind you, your sisters.
I, I don't know if you guys dothis, but I see handholding.
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Hmm.
And I don't know if this is a messagefrom her that almost ignites your, your
fire, your flames within each other, orif this is something that you already
do, but a lock of hands between you allmaking a circle, lifting them up, and
just, I, I don't think you have to sayanything just to feel in your heart.
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Center her with you all.
I. And that she's a part ofthat and in locked with you
and there is so much healing.
There is so much power.
There is so much energyto be harnessed in that.
That's beautiful.
Yeah.
How
do you feel?
I feel at peace.
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I also feel like everythingthat you've said is.
Right on target.
And what's so interesting about what Ijust experienced too was that it felt
easy and anytime I had a moment ofdoubt, which went away pretty quickly.
Which I guess is just anatural part of being human.
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It is our ego brain will shiftright in and be like, isn't real?
Yeah.
Right.
Anytime that would happen and I wouldsay to myself open up your heart.
Relax, you're okay.
You would inevitably say somethingthat would like, whew, make me believe,
in your gift and in your power.
that was really cool.
Well,
I appreciate that because not everyoneunderstands that the sitter matters.
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Your energy matters.
Yeah.
So when there's skepticism and you canopen yourself up, like, you know what, I'm
just gonna receive what comes with love.
And just take it.
I said in my head, this is notgoing to work if I close myself off.
And people do.
And that's very normal.
Yeah.
I think even
myself as the medium,sometimes I close myself off.
(01:00:27):
Right.
And the spirit at the end waslike, why didn't you say this?
Why?
You know?
And it's like, I'm sorryI, you know, we all do it
so well.
I appreciate your time.
Are there any finalthoughts that you have?
Unconditional love.
Find it.
We all have it within us.
Just try to fill that.
(01:00:49):
Lead by that and honestly,find your own path.
Do your own research.
Find your own belief system.
, I'm not the say all of everything and noother medium is, and no other psychic is.
You know, we, we want someone to tell usthe answers when really the, the biggest
thing is to seek within ourselves.
(01:01:10):
Right?
Yeah.
Do you feel complete?
I do.
Where can people find youif you want to be found?
Oh, I wanna be found.
No, I want everyone to find amedium that resonates with them,
that they feel a connection with.
And if that's me wonderful,I would love to help you.
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You can find me atafterlifeconnections.net.
That is my page.
From there you can find my Instagram.
Thank you so much for being hereand being on the show with us
and shifting our perspective.
It's been amazing.
I appreciate that.
Thank you for having me.
It's been an absolute pleasure.
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Thank you so much seekersfor witnessing that with me.
Sharing that session.
Definitely wasn't easy becauseit brought up a lot of emotion
and a lot of unresolved grief.
But I'm so grateful to Rachelfor holding space and offering
her gifts with such care.
Some of the things that stood out to mewas the first person that came through was
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definitely my really good friend, Maxie.
It's only been nine monthssince she passed, and she
definitely had huge energy.
She worked in PR and would alwaysinvite us to these amazing concerts.
The last concert I saw with her wasLizzo in Vegas, and Maxie would just
throw the best parties, parties forher birthday, parties for holidays.
(01:02:42):
Maxie also just brought in all people fromall walks of life, like she did not care
who you were, but if you had good energy,she would bring you into the group.
And I won't comment on her deathbecause she obviously didn't want to.
But I will say that she had aneating disorder and that wasn't.
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Ultimately the thing that took her out,but it was directly connected to it.
So when Rachel was saying leadinga horse to water, but she can't
make it drink that is exactly whatit was for all of us and Maxi.
We all tried to help her, butwe just couldn't figure out
how to save her, and it was so.
(01:03:24):
On point when Rachel said therewas like this disconnect between
Maxi's head and her heart becausewe knew that Maxi wanted to live.
I mean, she froze her eggs soshe could have a baby sometime
in the future if she wanted to.
Like we knew she wanted to live,but she just couldn't get her
eating disorder under control.
(01:03:45):
And to talk about my sister.
Jamila died of a brain aneurysm, and sowhen Rachel was like, she has this raging
headache and it's a ticking time bomb.
I was like, holy shit.
Yeah, that literally is how she died.
My sister also loved her work so much.
The connection betweenspirituality and science was like.
So on point, uh, Jamila was achild psychologist and we grew
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up in a very Christian home.
And while I'm, I'm not sure ifJamila was Christian at the end of
her life, she was very spiritual.
Like she had a spirituality to her.
And so I. I am just blown away by thatconnection that Rachel made about her.
And if y'all feel moved to give, we'rehonoring Maxie with donations to causes
(01:04:30):
close to her heart, St. John's and PlannedParenthood, and my sweet sister Jamila,
by supporting the sharing network, whichhelps save lives through organ and tissue
donation, just as she did in her passing.
And then the witch wounds,three of cups, The Hanged Woman.
We would not be here right now if shehadn't passed because Jeannine, who is
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the mastermind behind this company, shenever would've moved to Los Angeles.
And Jasmine and I probably neverwould've tapped into spirituality
in the way that we did.
And we sought spirituality ona deeper level than we were
able to find as Christians.
And we did that because she passed away.
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It makes so much sense to me.
Also the twins came up.
Jeannine's twins arenamed after my sister.
My sister's name is Jamila Elisa, andmy niece's names are Mila and Elisa.
I didn't catch that in the reading,but I'm pretty sure that's the
reason Jamila brought them up.
There were so many otherconnections that Rachel.
(01:05:34):
That I am seriously soblown away by her gift.
So seekers, this episode is theperfect way to wrap up our theme
of death, dying and the afterlife,and shift into a whole new topic.
Money, how we manage it, what itdoes to our brains, and if we can
manifest more of it, I promise you,you will not wanna miss the shift.
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Just a heads up.
This episode explores spiritualcommunication, mediumship,
and the energetic presenceof those who have passed on.
We speak with the practicing mediumabout connecting with the spirit world,
ancestral messages and personal readings.
Please note that parts of thisepisode touch on sensitive
topics, as shared through messagesreceived during the reading.
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We invite you to listen withopenness and self-compassion, and
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So today's episode is something alittle different and deeply personal.
Rachel offers me a medium ship reading andyou'll hear what it's like to be on the
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So whether you believe in the afterlifeor you're just curious, I invite
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Okay, so I'm just gonnafeel into your energy.
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We have a female, I feel herenergy a little stronger than the
others right now, so I feel theyare all kind of in agreeance that
she is who needs to step forward.
But the first thing that shekind of said was like, Hey, you.
Very subtle.
She has a really peaceful energy and Ithink she's trying to be gentle for me.
(03:10):
I get that about her nature.
Okay,
so I'm just kind of gonna fillinto that nature that gentleness
feels very.
Kind of, I guess the word is responsible.
(03:30):
Sure.
She keeps kind of showing me her,
like her, she's fashionable.
Okay.
She's just like, like you got like,come on, see the whole thing here?
The whole picture.
It's.
Oh boy.
Okay.
(03:51):
So she's, she is very subtle with herenergy for me because she is a big
energy and she was that on earth, right?
Yeah.
So she's like, let me tone it down,let me pull it all in together.
And she keeps saying, baby girl.
Mm.
Okay.
And I feel a sense, I don't, it's funny'cause she keeps, I feel a sense of
(04:15):
motherhood and responsibility for you.
But she's not.
Right.
Right.
And I also feel this
deep throughout all time.
I mean, many lives offriendship and closeness.
Okay.
(04:36):
She's talking about all the baby girls.
Okay.
See them.
'cause she's listing them.
Oh my God.
Are there three?
It's so fast.
Because here's the thing, theperson who I think you're talking
about, I can understand they'rebeing like more than three.
Like there's like, I guessI just didn't need to know.
(05:00):
Everyone's her baby girl.
She feels like she is trying tocommunicate with, in the sense of,
of very specifically three people.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
And this is, she keepsshowing like this my soul.
Right?
(05:21):
Okay.
She's showing me Jays,see if she'll give me one.
She okay.
She's going really fast.
She's listing like everybody.
I'm gonna try to adjust one imageat a time, so I keep getting the
letter J. That could representyou, or it could be her name.
(05:43):
I didn't ask her.
It's just what she showed.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Right.
But it feels significantthroughout everyone.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Now I'm conflicted on who it is.
So this
I, I just asked for, for you?
Yeah.
This your sister.
Okay.
I got no.
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Oh, so I am gonna muscle test it.
Okay.
Okay.
Is that who you thought that it was?
No.
Okay.
So, okay.
Yeah, no.
All right.
So why does she feel, is this a I So whereshe's standing behind you almost feels.
Like she's right in cousin,friend, auntie, and I feel she
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kind of engulfed all of it.
Yeah, sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
More like, like, yeah.
Friend, sister, but like chosen sister.
Yeah.
She's really funny.
She says, I'm so glad you did thisbecause now I don't have to haunt you.
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And she said she'll get that.
That's me.
I feel a sense of life of theparty from her, but also she could
step back and let others be that.
Mm-hmm.
And she, it was like sheintuitively knew when, right?
Mm-hmm.
She knew when you needed to shine.
(07:10):
She knew when someoneelse needed to shine.
And I get that like vibe of.
I don't wanna use the terminology, butshe keeps saying it like, ride or die.
That's what we do for each other.
Right.
I'm so glad you said that.
Yes.
Why you moping around for me.
Why do you, why do you mope aroundfor me that sadness doesn't do you any
good, and it doesn't do me any good.
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Yeah.
Okay.
I know you love me.
I love you too.
It's reciprocated.
This is a reciprocal thingand it keeps us connected.
Yeah.
So it's okay to let those feelingscome and it's okay to let them go.
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Yeah.
You're
not honoring me by hurting for me.
Okay.
Now I'm just gonna ask hersomething really quick.
So her passing,
I'm just gonna fill into it.
She's a little I don't wanna usethe word closed off, but hesitant.
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Does that resonate for that passing?
I don't know if I understand
like
where she wouldn't wanna share it.
Mm,
mm-hmm.
Okay.
So I'm not gonna force her.
I'm gonna let her justshare what she wants to.
Yeah.
I do feel shock.
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That's a big emotion with this one.
Yeah.
And oddly, the word passionatekeeps kind of coming or like
passion keeps coming forward.
Regarding her passing,
it feels like that, but I'm gonnadifferentiate real quick and
see if that's what she means.
She says yes.
So this person feels very open to a lotof different beliefs and ways of life.
(09:07):
She's kind of like a no judgment.
Do you?
And, yeah.
Even though I feel like she tookfrom, everyone's like, she just
trusted you guys do the research,you do the feelings and all of that,
and I'll just, I'll be a part of it.
But I feel like you could have reallydeep conversations with her too.
Absolutely.
And it always like reached backto the same place of loyalty.
(09:30):
Absolutely.
She's still not readyto share her passing.
She gave me a few emotions of it.
Mm-hmm.
And it feels like there's guilt with it.
Mm.
Is that your guilt or is that hers?
I'm sure both of us have somesort of guilt when it comes
to it for different reasons.
Yeah.
There's something she is showing tome and it, it feels part of a saying.
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It's almost like she's saying,you're saying leading a horse to
water, but you can't make it drink.
Okay.
Yeah.
And then I, I hear the word helpand it's not a cry out for help.
There was feeling of everyonewanted to help, but wasn't sure
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where or what that looked like.
Okay.
Yeah.
Uh, yeah.
Your job was to love me.
And you did it.
Yeah.
Okay.
You did it.
I felt truly loved by my girls.
By my baby girls.
She can name my baby girls.
Don't forget baby girls.
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That was enough for me.
And that's enough from you.
You did your part.
Okay.
Yeah.
Now
her spirit life, I am askingabout, because I'm curious because
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she has so much personality.
Yeah.
So it feels like she, this is interesting.
A teacher who alsoreceives the lessons, okay?
Mm-hmm.
And that's because of whatshe experienced in this life.
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Along with her passing,they're encompassing.
Mm-hmm.
So she's kind of explaining it,you know, when your heart is there,
but your mind, you can't justget your mind on track with it.
They were beaten on two different,you know, pages all the time.
Mm-hmm.
And
there was a point in time whereI couldn't get out of this.
(11:47):
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
And so I'm learning howto work the two in unison.
So as she's learning, she's alsogifting it to her baby girls
and her loved ones on earth.
Mm-hmm.
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So the lessons that she learns, she.
Almost, it feels like she sends thatmessaging to you guys in your own lives.
Okay.
Yeah,
and she shows me it's received.
There's so much more consciousnessabout everyday living, and
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she's taking credit for it.
She's like, that's me.
So.
So I keep hearing the word tragedy,
so it feels like that has todo with her passing, that it
was sudden and it was tragic.
It was.
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She says, you can say it was senseless.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah.
You don't have to worry about my pain.
It was made into love.
Okay, that pain, it's not with meanymore, and the only people that
carry it for me are you guys on earth.
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But I don't want you to carry it.
I want you to carry the love.
I want you to transmute it andturn it into something that
can be spread throughout.
Is there a trip?
It feels, I don't wanna, I hear the wordtrip, but I'm not seeing it visually.
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Mm-hmm.
So it either hasn't taken place,or it took place, and she hasn't
shown me the memory of it just yet.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
Mm-hmm.
She's making some type ofvery philosophical joke here.
Something about takingtrips and the word trip.
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The word trip, and we take trips to takeus away from what we're tripping on.
That's what she's saying, okay?
The goal is to live our life.
Okay?
As if we're on that trip.
Not in the trip.
We're not tripping on whenwe're going to, when we're on
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vacation, when we're on a trip.
It's, it's love.
It's having a good time.
It's you're, you'regentle with each other.
You're gentle with yourself,and that's what she's saying.
That is the key to life.
That's the key.
And the gift that I want you toknow, those trips meant something
(14:43):
to me because it took awayeverything we were tripping on.
We worked through it togetheror it just disappeared really.
It went into the clouds and then we returnand we find something else to trip on.
So the key is to always try to findthat feeling that you feel when you're
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on, when you are on those trips.
Right.
And I think that's agreat guidance for life.
For all of us.
'cause I, I feel this.
Says, I love you.
You do.
You And she's saying, you do you baby.
Do you baby?
I feel like there's music, but I can'tquite like, feel into what it is.
(15:29):
It's almost island music.
I feel like this is like,
is this where you guys went on the trip?
Is that what she's, she's kind ofjust doing a little groove for me.
It feels significant.
So we'll just hold onto that.
Do you have any questions for her?
Honestly, I just wanna know if there'sanything she wants us to tell Deb,
(15:54):
That I lived my
life and she needs to live hers.
This feels
there's a lot of grief here.
Mm. She's really.
Mm. Emphasizing her ownershipin her life and the path.
Okay.
And she's kind of pointing toher death for some, became the
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center point for others' lives.
Right.
And she's saying, don't put that on me.
Don't put it on me.
Yeah.
I made choices.
I live with them, I'm learning from them,
and you're all gonna see me again andit's gonna be a party like it always was.
And then it's all love Like, all loveIt feels like that's what she's saying.
(16:43):
All love.
I'm filling into another energy.
I feel like you got alot of female energies.
Yeah.
Yeah.
On this side.
And it feels, I will say, I, I, whenI feel this, it goes throughout time
and space, so it feels like, uh,your records, your divine records.
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Date back with these women and thatwomen, that bloodline of feminine energy
runs very deep in your, in your family.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And this one is, it is a female, Ifeel a little timid in her presence
and not by her.
It's.
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She's very, very wise very intelligent.
I can feel it and almostsee it off of her.
Okay.
Mm. So this is, it feels like thiswas a sudden passing, so I, I'm gonna
throw this out there because I havelike a raging headache right now,
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and it doesn't feel like it's mine.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
And this is from.
This is from the passing.
Yeah.
And it almost feels ticking.
Like a ticking, like a ticking time off.
Okay.
Hmm.
There's a pressure that isn't like anormal headache and that's what I feel.
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Yeah.
I hear almost this internalized ticking.
Hmm.
Are you okay?
Mm-hmm.
I feel like she, she had headaches a lot.
Mm-hmm.
It feels like this was maybe undiagnosed.
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Yeah.
They were bad.
I mean, they were like, kind ofhad to stop all things even though
she still would push through.
Yeah.
I feel this devotion, what she did inthis life that she, it's almost like
(18:59):
she couldn't let this, that headachekeep her from what she needed to do.
Makes a hundred percent sense.
I see awards.
Wow.
Yeah.
Well, she showed me two awards thatshe says is, are the best awards?
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Mm.
The greatest awards of my life.
Mm.
My soul is shared with my children.
Mm.
And she
says, you know that?
Mm-hmm.
You know that you see it?
Mm, mm-hmm.
Yeah.
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I don't want them to live likethey have to make me proud.
I don't want that tobe their driving force.
Yeah.
And so as I connect my soul with themand they're, they're a piece of my soul,
that's more to help them be individualand be guided by their own divine light.
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'cause she said she's seen itin them of a long time ago.
Yeah.
And it's kind of weird becauseI feel this spirituality from
her, but it's very rigid.
It's rigid in the sense that shealso combines it with physical
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intelect or
Hmm.
Science.
Really?
Hmm.
Does that make sense?
I, I think so.
Yeah.
She kind of prides herself in thatbecause I don't think there's a lot of
people and it doesn't feel, she feltvery alone in that, in her line of work
that there's a spiritual aspect to it.
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Whereas everyone was very science-based.
Right?
Sure.
And a lot of people didn't go that deep,but she always kind of had this deepness.
Really?
Yeah,
absolutely.
This depth to her?
Yeah.
It feels, she's just kind ofshowing me this feels like mother
(21:10):
mm, like,
like a shared mother.
And that just feels like
this is how she's kind of showing me.
'cause it feels deep.
So mom is the roots.
You were all the branches ofwhat came from that growth below.
Mm. And she instilled it inevery, it's in every ring,
(21:32):
throughout every branch, right?
Mm-hmm.
And she says that's, that's thedepth that I can't take credit
for it 'cause it's not mine.
Mm-hmm.
It feels like she's saying,mama raised us in joy and the
word joy to me means something.
But the way she's showing me.
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Is like little girls playing and laughingand finding the silliest things to
laugh about and also like helping mom.
I feel a lot of thatresponsibility from everyone.
Yes.
And so much alike, but so independent.
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Each of you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
She wants to talk about the witch wounds.
Okay.
I think you guys know they're there.
Yeah.
This isn't the reason I passed, but itis a part I, it feels responsibility
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for everyone to remove this woundfrom everyone to take it upon myself.
Mm-hmm.
Does that make sense?
I feel mom is a powerfullittle being herself.
I think this woman has made magicthroughout all the time, and
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it's been witnessed in this life.
So this isn't, it doesn't feel karmic.
Her passing.
It feels kind of, Ivolunteer as tribute, right?
That's what it feels like to take all thatsuffering and pain off of you throughout
(23:27):
the next many lives that you will live.
To take those contracts and burn themto remove anything that is binding
and holding your sister's back.
Hmm.
From your power really and fromall the generational lines, because
(23:49):
I feel there's, I feel there'slittle ones spread out all over.
Is that right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So they have it too, andshe freed them of it.
She freed you.
Okay.
This was her soul's choice.
So
I'm just gonna ask her because.
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She's showing me so vividly.
I hear the word omega a lot and I'mjust trying to see why it's echoed.
You guys will come into that.
Just remember the word omega.
It's gonna, it's gonna comethrough in some way for you all.
Okay?
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And it's, it's like something withinall of you that you're gonna discover.
And really lean into,
wow, okay, is this person gorgeous?
Because oh my gosh, I was seeing herat almost as a silhouette, right?
(24:55):
Mm-hmm.
Because she's not about that vanityor, and, but ooh, she's gorgeous.
Yes, she's
yes she
is.
Her eyes are just.
How do you not know Heaven existsfrom, from looking at her, right?
Yeah.
It feels like there's,
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she's showing something.
Is this run in your family?
Like, BES
twos, are you a twin?
Oh shit, no, I'm not atwin, but we have twins.
In your family?
Yeah.
My nieces,
oh my God,
my nieces are identical twins.
I love that
they have very strong, intuitive senses.
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Did everyone come intospirituality after her passing?
Yeah.
I mean at the level that we're at now.
Absolutely.
This is the story.
Yeah.
She's played a part in it.
You needed the strength, you neededthat togetherness, that it feels
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woven and you needed to know thaton the other side, it still exists.
That weaving amongst allof you is still there.
And that is, she is your connection.
She is your portal.
She is your bridge.
Yeah.
And it's more about into your true selves.
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'cause she says, I feel yourfamily so talented in so many ways.
And that can get misconstrued, right?
Yeah.
But this is the true honoring.
Of the self, and I feelit with all of you.
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This is where you are beingauthentic and it's not.
It's not beautiful always.
Right?
Healing and energy and the ether and theastral, all of it is deeper than that.
She's showing the shadows.
Every one of you has a shadowyou're working through.
Yeah.
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But that is where you reach.
That enlightenment, that is where youfind yourself back to the The Omega.
She's saying
the omega
because it's within you all.
Okay.
Okay.
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So I feel sadness, but she's notfocusing on it in the sense where
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it's holding her back in any way.
Right.
Because our grief and our sadness,when we don't move it, it it stays
and it also kind of stays within them.
Mm-hmm.
But I, I don't, I don't feel that, Ido feel that everyone is honoring their
emotions and their sadness and theirgrief, but that there's celebration.
(28:33):
Yeah.
This is also with her family.
What
do you
mean?
It feels like with her children.
Mm-hmm.
it feels like there's a man,but I feel like he's slightly
closed off from everything.
Mm. But he does, he accepts it,but he is not like fully there.
Mm-hmm.
(28:53):
Does that make
sense
into like the celebration aspect of it or?
Yes.
I don't know.
I think that like when we're with him.
There is celebration.
Yeah.
But I don't know where he is,when he is by himself in his,
yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
He feels very intelligent as well.
Yeah.
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This was spiritual growth forhim because he is reaching out to
something outside of what, what heallowed himself to believe, right?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
And there's like a sense of.
For, for him.
You can fake it till you make it.
Mm-hmm.
Right.
And this reading isn't for him.
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She's just kind of showing so everyonecan understand where his grief lies.
Yeah.
And how intricate he is in the growthof their children, and really the
livelihood of her spirit on earth.
Yeah.
Okay.
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She keeps saying, beautiful man.
My beautiful man, like beautifulis what she's using to describe
you were very much in love.
Yes, and it was beautiful love.
And you know, she feels at peace.
I think that the hardest partis accepting that, but for her.
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She feels just very, I feel like sheeven took care of other people and really
took pride in that.
I get like a, she keeps kind ofdoing this like, so I don't know if
that was like kind of her thing whenshe set somebody straight or said
(30:43):
something, but there is a finger point.
It feels significant to her.
Mm-hmm.
What she did on this earth feels likeshe continues it in the afterlife.
Yeah.
Okay.
It feels important because it is helpingsouls who had a much darker path.
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We almost had a block of self.
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
And she's doing that in the afterlife.
Wow.
Yeah.
It's an exchange.
This is something she just understandsthe way we think we behave.
(31:30):
And then her spiritual side ofit is what is teaching them,
where it was lost, where that.
Disconnect happened in their life.
You know what's kind of funny is I feel
the presence that was here before,I feel that Sister helps her.
(31:57):
I feel that there's an understandingof that sadness that, that she endured.
It was masked.
It feels like in passionand And that makes sense.
She wants you to know she, shelooks after her, she teaches her.
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And she also wants it to beknown because I just said that,
that she's not just the teacher.
She learns too.
So everything there is an exchange.
It's give and take.
And that's what.
Isn't always present in our life on earth.
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We feel taken advantage of.
We feel we give, we give, we give.
She is not someone who felt that way.
And I think because of that, her workwas really beautiful and profound
because she didn't need someoneto tell her that she helped them.
And because of that, she wasrewarded greatly by that.
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It feels unconditional.
She had compassion.
Yeah.
So
do you have questions for her?
You know, I, I wanna goback to the witch wound.
Can you first explainwhat the witch wound is?
A witch wound is aintergenerational or personal,
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even a collective wound or trauma
that stems back from thehistorical persecution of
those accused of witchcraft.
And they were primarily women.
This was a timeframe called the burningtimes, and a lot of women carry this
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wound a lot were magic wielders.
They were healers andhad strong intuition.
A lot of these women were just.
Women who were different and didn'tfollow societal norms or programming.
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They were even some justspinsters and not married women
and they were considered weird.
And these women wereostracized from society.
They were.
Persecuted and killed.
They were ran out of towns.
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And spit on, there's, there's a lotof trauma that took place from this
timeframe and even before let's talkabout how that looks in your current life.
So a witch wound
it's deep rooted in fear.
It can look like being afraid of yourpower, showing your power to others having
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a reluctance to like speak your truth ortrying to please others and having that
fear of being judged or being successful.
So how do we go abouthealing the witch wound?
How you heal it?
Well, I would say first of all istrying to find a way to reclaim
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your personal power, right?
Embracing your authentic selfand all of what that entails.
Like all of your weirdness and justbeing you, finding ways to speak your
truth that aligns with who you are.
You know, this wound isdifferent for everyone.
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It can be from past lives andit can be intergenerational.
And what that means is that it'spassed down through families and
culture, the different cultures.
So when we talk about how to healit, like with any type of healing.
Healing isn't linear.
Layers are gonna come up.
Different traumas exist fromdifferent timeframes, different lives.
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We've lived some, not even our ownsome are just passed down through
our bloodline and healing it.
I would recommend find ahealer that is well-versed in.
Past life regressions or healingthe self from, uh, limiting beliefs
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and someone who can take you backthrough your Akashic records.
But it does start with you firstacknowledging, and reclaiming
your power as you heal.
and what was a witch woundfor our family specifically?
The witch wound that came forward withyour sister your sister who passed on.
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She had brought up that, her passing inthis life did have a tie contractually to.
To releasing a wound, a generationalwound for you and your sisters.
So when I get into that into yourrecords, to your line, I find.
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That it was a DNA witchwound, it feels like it came
through on your mother's side.
I feel a little bit oflike European bloodline.
But I don't feel that that's wherethis wound for you guys came from.
It does feel very.
Indigenous.
So when I asked for a timeframe of whenthis, this magic and , these healing
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properties came about in your bloodline.
I got around the 13 hundreds.
I did get that this could have been ofAfrican descent back from that area.
It feels African based.
It feels indigenous to that landand it carried through for many
(38:09):
many generations.
And it typically was in the men.
That's where when I first askedlike, where did the magic come from?
Where did these, supernaturalabilities, where did it start?
And I saw mostly men.
I saw a lot of ceremonies andI saw a lot of plant medicine.
(38:34):
I saw a lot of weathermanipulation psychic abilities.
And back then this.
Was a form of political power if you hadthe ability to control or or manipulate
weather and people for good, providingprotection for a group of people.
(39:02):
That's where I saw it mostly.
So when I asked for your specificbloodline, it seems like.
This main wound came from whatI would consider a high priest.
He did seem powerful in thesense of he was in control, uh,
(39:26):
whether he'd be a king or a chief.
I'm gonna go with chief.
That's what it felt moreover a group of people.
A tribesman that they all look to forhealing, for guidance, for answers from
the stars, from from their ancestors, and.
When I asked if he wasthe only one I, I got no.
(39:49):
And I asked to see theothers that had this ability.
And what I saw was that the mostpowerful from this timeframe, and
this is, I'm gonna save around now,16 hundreds to 18 hundreds, maybe
even 19 hundreds in your bloodline.
So this main wound that your sisterspoke to us about talked about.
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Or what I could see involved, uh, a manwho was the chief and his two sons, and
they were pretty big magic wielders.
They were healers, they were guides.
They used the stars a lot.
They just understood andwielded power from not only.
(40:36):
The Earth mother Gaia, butfrom the astral beings.
This power became political in a sense.
There was a lot of battlesand fighting for territory.
tribes were beginning to be influencedby colonial settlers and religion.
(41:01):
This man, this chief in particularrelated to you, had the ability
of sight, so foresight, andhe could see what was coming.
He could see a battle was comingthat he was probably gonna lose.
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So it was decided that.
The supernatural abilities, thegifts needed to be transferred.
And what I saw was that this magic wasgonna be split amongst his six daughters.
So some type of ceremony was performed.
(41:45):
Before they were attacked by othertribes and by the colonial settlers.
This chief, in order to protectthe magic and protect his people
transferred the magic and thesupernatural abilities that he had and
that his sons had two his daughters.
(42:05):
And when I asked how manythere were, I got six.
I got six daughters.
And it was split amongst them.
It was spread out.
So each having at least a gift or twoand they all differed from one another.
These women his daughterswere fearful of this.
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They did not want it.
They considered it a curse.
Why is because women didn'thold the same value as men?
And they knew that.
And they also, you know, in thattimeframe of that transfer of, of gift
they witnessed their, their father, theirchief, and their brothers be murdered.
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Their tribe was, ravaged and they werefearful of what was coming for them.
And they were fearful because theydidn't know how to control it.
They weren't taught magic,it was just bestowed on them.
So
women have a tendency to cometogether, especially sisters, right?
(43:12):
I saw these six sisters come togetherputting each of their abilities together,
kind of creating a more powerful force.
And I think they felt safe in that.
They knew that another war wasinevitably coming and that they would
probably lose once their villageand their people and their tribe
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was split up, they were shunned.
They were kind of kickedout of that society.
That new blended tribe.
Because people were afraid thatthey would be persecuted because
they, they were gonna be persecuted.
(43:57):
They were outcasted and inthat they had to survive.
So what they chose to do wasin secret teach others magic.
Teach others how to heal.
While they also healed others, peoplecame to them by word of mouth and they
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also became entertainers with theirabilities, their gifts, and spell casters.
They did what they needed tofor survival and they were
eventually all killed for this.
As other tribes and religionbegan to take hold over this land
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witches what they considered to bewitches healers were eradicated.
Now, how it really comesdown to your DNA is that.
There was an eldest sisterof the six who became what we
would call a high priestess.
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She had owl chemical abilities.
She was a healer.
She was very connected to motherGaia and the astral planes.
She knew and she tried in manydifferent lives that you had together.
She tried to spread andmove this wound, this curse.
(45:31):
She thought if she spread themagic, that it would become
less of a curse amongst you.
I saw other lives where she triedto contain it all in herself, and
none of these practices helped.
The initial wound.
Right.
So you all still carried it and itstill went through your lineage.
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Followed you through your other lives.
Each life you guys lived,you discovered a gift.
In some form or way, you were plagued bythe ghost of the initial wound, right?
So in your lives in many past lives andthrough your lineage, there was the wound,
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it manifested as loss feeling powerless,having doubt of yourself and your power.
Ridicule being outcasted,considered different being widowed
or divorced, losing the men inyour life, or relationships.
Souring, there was alot of oppression and.
(46:39):
Depression manifested asanxiety or a lot of self-doubt.
I did witness a lot of experienceswith men as aggressors and that
kind of contributed to that likepowerless feeling and voiceless.
I did witness some lives whereyou were actually voiceless.
(47:03):
You were mute.
So your communication wasn't thereand in that you don't have power.
Right.
And there's a lot to be learned from thoselives, but we were focusing on that main
wound that your sister spoke on and beforeshe came to this life, she chose to.
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Contractually, like shemade a soul contract
to all of her soul family torelease this wound to end it.
And that is what we found.
That's what came forward.
(47:49):
That's what she was talkingabout that her passing.
It had other meaning.
There were other things I could feelthere was other meaning behind it, but
one of the big ones was to release yourwhole family lineage from the wound,
from that witch wound so that you allin this life can step into your power.
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And I, I feel like you allknow that's manifesting.
Like you feel it, you allare coming into your gifts.
You're not afraid of them.
You're not afraid to put them out thereand be who you are, your authentic selves.
It's, it takes time, ittakes practice, and also
(48:32):
it takes you accepting the ending.
Of this wound.
So your sister wants you to acknowledgethat it's over and accept that it's over
and it will be cleared in this lifetime.
And that can look many different ways.
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You guys can get together, you girls, and.
Have a ceremony all put your input inof, of what that release looks like.
You could have a little bonfire.
You can, uh, release it by burning papersof, of that oppression, the voicelessness.
You can write those words orfeelings or beliefs and release them.
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You can see the wound itselfin your mind's eye and release
it in a meditation together.
The point is you need to seeit be gone, whether it be in a
physical way or a meditative way.
You can do it together.
You can do it individually,you can do both.
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I think knowing in your hearts thatit's released is gonna be the biggest.
The biggest way for you all.
You're all gonna see themanifestation of that.
You're gonna see more power,you're gonna feel lighter in your
lives, in your current lives, and
tears will be shed, you'll,you'll release those emotions,
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but you'll feel strong after.
And I just wanted toshare that with you guys.
And I wanted to express my gratitudefor trusting me to work with your
sister in spirit and with your ancestralline who were so open and loving.
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And with the sixth plane who allowedme to access Akashic records.
Through the laws of cause and effect andthe laws of time, I was able to access
that on your behalf, and I am verygrateful for that and I feel very honored
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and I hope that you guys take this andyou really feel released and cleared,
and I hope it manifests in areally beautiful way for you all.
I have one more question formy sister, and I wonder if she
wants me to talk to her more.
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Of course,
She understands though,why you don't Yeah.
You're still in a pocket of grief.
Yeah.
That it almost swings from anger andkind of an not, I don't wanna say the
word doom, but a deep, dark sorrow.
Yeah.
(51:26):
And you try to avoid it, right?
Yeah.
And that's okay.
She says It's okay.
This is our growth together, but let mehelp you call out to me because I'm in
spirit and that means I'm an angel helper.
And who more do I wanna help my sisters?
You know, I can help Joe over there,but it's not gonna feel the same.
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It's not gonna give thatsame growth to us both.
So call out to her.
Talk to her because she is right there.
Okay.
And she does talk a littlesmack about how you keep
clean,
but I keep clean.
Oh, I get what she's saying.
Okay.
I misinterpreted that.
Hmm.
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It's interesting.
She used this word, but that'sthe word that came through.
So we're like talking throughlike a tempered glass, right?
That clean.
It's not your place, . It'sthe space of you.
So there's a heaviness that isn't sister.
It's a part of your soul growth.
I think , this has helped you growinto knowing yourself and just
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taken off the gloves, taken offthe mask, and be raw and real.
And you're cleaning up thatspace and it takes time.
, I feel like you're gonna have aresolution, I feel like there's gonna
be clarity and that space is clean.
You're gonna feel her.
(52:54):
Your senses are gonna wake up like that.
She's showing me this gift of mediumship.
It is not to me alone.
You have it in you,
is the heaviness.
Something that I picked up.
It feels like it is something,an event, an aspect of life.
(53:17):
You think it changed you in a dark way.
Yeah.
But this was the path
that almost empower you toface demons, literally and win.
Wow.
To find, because it's shadowed.
It's blanketed over you.
It's dark, but it's not yours.
(53:41):
But you're holding it like it is.
Right.
Yeah,
this is, this is to teach you foryour growth, for your light, because
your light is more powerful than this.
So you're going through, you'rein the shadows right now, and you
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know, they talk like there's thosebuzz words shadow work, right?
This is real shadow work and the,the thing with this shadow is
that it doesn't just involve you.
It almost feels like it involveslike, I don't wanna say it 'cause I
don't wanna scare you, but it's not,it's not anything to be afraid of.
I don't want you to be afraidof dark energies, but this is
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a human form of an incubus.
So
la Yeah.
You face demons every single day.
You may feel the heaviness of them.
You may feel it walking down the street.
You may feel it in yourlife from this one.
That's only becauseyour light is so bright.
(54:49):
Okay.
It's almost like when you're afraidof something, you just almost
attach to it for it not to see you.
Right?
Yeah.
That's what that's doing.
You're, you're more powerful than this.
And that's what sister wants you to know.
And you're gonna find that light.
I, I feel like you've come acrossit a few times, But I feel, you
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feel like you can't hold onto it.
Like you need your hands for somethingelse, but that light doesn't need you, it.
It lifts inside of you.
It's not, it doesn't needto be held by anything.
It just needs to be
upfront.
She says The funny thing is thateverybody can see it but you.
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But that's what peoplewho are lightworkers, who
come to fight the shadows.
That's what they do.
That's what they see.
They're in battle so much and, andunder armor that they don't, they
forget their own light, right?
That they have it . So youcan take off that armor.
That light is your armor.
(55:55):
You don't have to protect yourselffrom this darkness at all.
'cause it can't win against you,and it's gonna be a big thing.
I think you know that, and Ithink that's part of the fear.
I feel it almost feels tied torelationships and people and, and
acquaintances, and you don't have tobe ashamed or embarrassed of anything.
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You're light.
They're lucky to have it in that city.
It's the only thing thatis keeping it afloat.
Do you understand?
Yeah.
Their light is what's protectingthem, whether they know it or not,
whether they even, whether theystill succumb to their darkness.
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Your light's still thereprotecting even those, even
those that have lost their way.
You are the lighthouse.
You're the ones sticking upout of the fog, turning like,
Hey, this is a safe haven.
I'm here.
I can protect you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
(57:03):
This is the time.
This is the place right now,in this moment where you
find yourself it's strong.
Believe that I can feelit, and I, I don't.
Between your energy and yoursisters, what are the words?
(57:24):
There's a benevolence.
In your family, in your guys'light, that is meant to be
here, right here, right now.
And sometimes we are the ones that gothrough the hardest, hardest challenges
we face, the hardest darkness thatwe wake up to, but there's that
light in you, and I know you find itin so many ways, but you think it's
(57:48):
from other people, but it's yours.
You like, still wannagive it to other people.
'cause you're so giving and you're justlike, oh, that's theirs, that's all.
I'll, oh, they're so light.
They're a light of my life.
You're the light of everyone's,
It's okay to own it.
Is this a big sister?
Is she.
Because she's like kind of like, almostlike I taught you to be tougher than this.
(58:12):
I taught you, you know, kind of likeI roughed you up enough to know how to
get through this and see it within you.
And there was a reason for that, I guess.
But her lights with you, you havea force behind you, your sisters.
I, I don't know if you guys dothis, but I see handholding.
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Hmm.
And I don't know if this is a messagefrom her that almost ignites your, your
fire, your flames within each other, orif this is something that you already
do, but a lock of hands between you allmaking a circle, lifting them up, and
just, I, I don't think you have to sayanything just to feel in your heart.
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Center her with you all.
I. And that she's a part ofthat and in locked with you
and there is so much healing.
There is so much power.
There is so much energyto be harnessed in that.
That's beautiful.
Yeah.
How
do you feel?
I feel at peace.
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I also feel like everythingthat you've said is.
Right on target.
And what's so interesting about what Ijust experienced too was that it felt
easy and anytime I had a moment ofdoubt, which went away pretty quickly.
Which I guess is just anatural part of being human.
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It is our ego brain will shiftright in and be like, isn't real?
Yeah.
Right.
Anytime that would happen and I wouldsay to myself open up your heart.
Relax, you're okay.
You would inevitably say somethingthat would like, whew, make me believe,
in your gift and in your power.
that was really cool.
Well,
I appreciate that because not everyoneunderstands that the sitter matters.
(01:00:06):
Your energy matters.
Yeah.
So when there's skepticism and you canopen yourself up, like, you know what, I'm
just gonna receive what comes with love.
And just take it.
I said in my head, this is notgoing to work if I close myself off.
And people do.
And that's very normal.
Yeah.
I think even
myself as the medium,sometimes I close myself off.
(01:00:27):
Right.
And the spirit at the end waslike, why didn't you say this?
Why?
You know?
And it's like, I'm sorryI, you know, we all do it
so well.
I appreciate your time.
Are there any finalthoughts that you have?
Unconditional love.
Find it.
We all have it within us.
Just try to fill that.
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Lead by that and honestly,find your own path.
Do your own research.
Find your own belief system.
, I'm not the say all of everything and noother medium is, and no other psychic is.
You know, we, we want someone to tell usthe answers when really the, the biggest
thing is to seek within ourselves.
(01:01:10):
Right?
Yeah.
Do you feel complete?
I do.
Where can people find youif you want to be found?
Oh, I wanna be found.
No, I want everyone to find amedium that resonates with them,
that they feel a connection with.
And if that's me wonderful,I would love to help you.
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You can find me atafterlifeconnections.net.
That is my page.
From there you can find my Instagram.
Thank you so much for being hereand being on the show with us
and shifting our perspective.
It's been amazing.
I appreciate that.
Thank you for having me.
It's been an absolute pleasure.
(01:01:58):
Thank you so much seekersfor witnessing that with me.
Sharing that session.
Definitely wasn't easy becauseit brought up a lot of emotion
and a lot of unresolved grief.
But I'm so grateful to Rachelfor holding space and offering
her gifts with such care.
Some of the things that stood out to mewas the first person that came through was
(01:02:20):
definitely my really good friend, Maxie.
It's only been nine monthssince she passed, and she
definitely had huge energy.
She worked in PR and would alwaysinvite us to these amazing concerts.
The last concert I saw with her wasLizzo in Vegas, and Maxie would just
throw the best parties, parties forher birthday, parties for holidays.
(01:02:42):
Maxie also just brought in all people fromall walks of life, like she did not care
who you were, but if you had good energy,she would bring you into the group.
And I won't comment on her deathbecause she obviously didn't want to.
But I will say that she had aneating disorder and that wasn't.
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Ultimately the thing that took her out,but it was directly connected to it.
So when Rachel was saying leadinga horse to water, but she can't
make it drink that is exactly whatit was for all of us and Maxi.
We all tried to help her, butwe just couldn't figure out
how to save her, and it was so.
(01:03:24):
On point when Rachel said therewas like this disconnect between
Maxi's head and her heart becausewe knew that Maxi wanted to live.
I mean, she froze her eggs soshe could have a baby sometime
in the future if she wanted to.
Like we knew she wanted to live,but she just couldn't get her
eating disorder under control.
(01:03:45):
And to talk about my sister.
Jamila died of a brain aneurysm, and sowhen Rachel was like, she has this raging
headache and it's a ticking time bomb.
I was like, holy shit.
Yeah, that literally is how she died.
My sister also loved her work so much.
The connection betweenspirituality and science was like.
So on point, uh, Jamila was achild psychologist and we grew
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up in a very Christian home.
And while I'm, I'm not sure ifJamila was Christian at the end of
her life, she was very spiritual.
Like she had a spirituality to her.
And so I. I am just blown away by thatconnection that Rachel made about her.
And if y'all feel moved to give, we'rehonoring Maxie with donations to causes
(01:04:30):
close to her heart, St. John's and PlannedParenthood, and my sweet sister Jamila,
by supporting the sharing network, whichhelps save lives through organ and tissue
donation, just as she did in her passing.
And then the witch wounds,three of cups, The Hanged Woman.
We would not be here right now if shehadn't passed because Jeannine, who is
(01:04:50):
the mastermind behind this company, shenever would've moved to Los Angeles.
And Jasmine and I probably neverwould've tapped into spirituality
in the way that we did.
And we sought spirituality ona deeper level than we were
able to find as Christians.
And we did that because she passed away.
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It makes so much sense to me.
Also the twins came up.
Jeannine's twins arenamed after my sister.
My sister's name is Jamila Elisa, andmy niece's names are Mila and Elisa.
I didn't catch that in the reading,but I'm pretty sure that's the
reason Jamila brought them up.
There were so many otherconnections that Rachel.
(01:05:34):
That I am seriously soblown away by her gift.
So seekers, this episode is theperfect way to wrap up our theme
of death, dying and the afterlife,and shift into a whole new topic.
Money, how we manage it, what itdoes to our brains, and if we can
manifest more of it, I promise you,you will not wanna miss the shift.
(01:05:55):
If you like this episode, don'tforget to like, share, and subscribe.
This is the Hanged Woman Podcast,where perspective is power.
We'll be back next weekuntil then, hang in there.
Seeker.
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