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May 23, 2025 54 mins

What if disaster psychology could teach us how to survive the modern workplace? In this powerful episode, Dr. Kira Mauseth—disaster psychologist, clinical expert, and resilience educator—joins Ellen to unpack the real meaning of behavioral health at work. From the difference between mental health and behavioral health to why traditional leadership tactics often fall short, they dive deep into the habits that create burnout, and the small shifts that can foster recovery, purpose, and hope.

Kira introduces her four-part resilience model (connection, adaptability, purpose, and hope), explains how emotional adaptability makes for better leaders, and reveals why we must stop glorifying the “always on” culture. They also tackle how to create space for boundaries, validate your team without micromanaging, and use problem-solving mindsets—even when you’re in a disaster cascade.

This episode is equal parts science, soul, and seriously useful advice for anyone leading or living through chronic workplace stress.

Don’t forget to grab the free PDF: Boundaries at Work Toolkit

Keywords: burnout recovery, behavioral health at work, emotional adaptability, workplace resilience, disaster psychology, boundaries at work, burnout signs, women leaders, transparency in leadership, active listening, healthy work culture, stress management, resilience at work

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