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February 3, 2025 26 mins

In this enlightening episode of The Intentional Surgeon Podcast, we welcome Dr. Carla Pugh.

Dr. Pugh's research in technology-driven training has made it clear that we are not measuring what matters most... we are not measuring the outcomes of surgery that matter. Why? Because we don't have the ability to do so safely. "No one wants a bronze medalist surgeon - we all want the gold medal surgeon. So what ability does a surgeon have to improve if they are not the best." Until we bravely move forward and insist that we need data that truly measures quality outcomes, we won't have the information we need to improve our craft. You can't run an Olympics, or baseball without metrics, so why shouldn't we have metrics that matter for surgical outcomes? She also explains that our human capital - the people we recruit to surgery is one of our most precious resources.

Join us as we explore how Dr. Pugh is reshaping the landscape of surgical education, surgical metrics, and the future of competency-based training in the medical field.

Dr. Pugh is a Professor of Surgery at Stanford University School of Medicine and Director of the Technology Enabled Clinical Improvement (T.E.C.I.) Center. Dr. Pugh is a trailblazer in the field of surgical education, leveraging advanced technology to assess and enhance clinical procedural skills. Her prestigious accolades include the Presidential Early Career Award for Scientists and Engineers, awarded to her by President Barack Obama in 2011, and her TEDMED talk on technology-driven medical training.

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