April 13, 2025 • 40 mins
Samantha Jade sits down with Jermaine on The Jermaine Plane for an honest and inspiring conversation about her journey through the music and entertainment industry. From her beginnings in Perth talent shows to signing with Jive Records in LA, Samantha reflects on the highs and lows of her career, including her family’s influence, her viral TikTok resurgence with "Sweet Talk," and how perseverance helped her overcome setbacks.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm Jamaine Divaz and this is the Domaine Plane. It's
a space to reconnect with the music and memories that
shaped us, not just the songs we loved, but the
stories behind them and the people we were when we
heard them. I've got to have honest, fun and reflective
conversations with artists like take that, Ricky Lee, Samant the Jay,
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just to name a few, diving into the moments, the meaning,
and the emotion tied to it all. Because when we
look back at what moved us, then we start to
understand who we are now. This show is about connection, reflection, healing,
and coming home to who we've always been. I'm so
glad you're.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Here, flying back in time. This is the Domain Plane.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Oh yes, hello, it's Jermaine here and welcome to the
first episode of The Jermaine Plane. I'm not gonna lie, guys,
I'm really nervous about this. I'm a radio announcer. I
have my own show called The Jamain Plane, and this
feels so new to me. This feels so different because
I'm usually talking in between songs, but this is like
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a full on conversation that I'm having with you, guys.
Nervous nervous, nervous, But just to give you some context, Hi,
I'm Jamaine. I am a huge pop music fan. I'm
a child of the nineties. I grew up in the
two thousands. I spent my young adulthood in the early
twenty tens, and the Jermaine Plain The radio show is
a celebration of the music. I wanted a place where
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we could play all of the songs that we knew
and loved when we were growing up, songs that we
could kind of escape with, and just to really enjoy
our Friday nights. That's how simple I wanted this idea
to be. Then I decided, Okay, it's time to bring
guests on. It's not a radio show with our guests.
And I cleverly thought, I'm going to get these guests
on as co pilots on the show. So they're just
(01:48):
going to come on. They're going to go and share
their favorite throwbacks and that's it. But as I was
doing this, I started to realize, hang on, these guys
are sharing some really, really great stories that are attached
to these songs. Songs that connect to their childhood, songs
that connect to their journey their career. Artists they've worked
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with celebrities, They've worked with some real, real important, key
moments of their career, pivotal experiences. And that's when I
really thought, you know what, these conversations are much bigger
than what I can put on a radio show. I
need a place where I can expand the show. I
need a place where I can expand these conversations. And
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that's what this podcast is. It's a chance for you
to get to know the makers and creators of the songs,
the products, the things that you loved, and also people
whose careers were heavily influenced by the things that we
knew in London we were kids or when we were teenagers,
young adults. That's what this podcast is about. Now. My
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first guest on the Jermaine Plain podcast is one of
my good friends. We grew up in the same area together. Gosh,
you had some stories attached to that. I'm talking about
other than Samantha Jade, the pop star that you know
from X Factor. But there is a lot more to
Samantha Ja that you don't know. But you get to
know about the Perth girl who moved to la in
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an instant and got chewed up by the music industry
and what I think she got spat out and she
had to start all over again. This is a story
about grit. This is a story about determination. This is
a story about family. This is a story about rebirthing yourself.
This is my chat with Samantha Ja. Now I want
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to throw you back just a little bit. So the
first time I even heard of Samantha j and the
first time I saw you, No, no, no, believe me. It's
so fine. Let's go back to two thousand and nine
telethon right at the Perth Convention Exhibition Center, and you
were on stage performing this with your crew.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Oh my gosh, Yeah, there's Amanda.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
It's Amanda, you have best friend.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Look, okay this let me talk you through this outfit. Okay,
So for people listening that can't see, I am wearing
a Wheels and doll baby tank top that I spent
so much money on. It was like two hundred dollars
and that skirt is also wheels no Baby, and wow
it was expensive. I just remember saving all my money
to buy that outfit. Here to so dark.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
I loved it. Well, it's chocolate.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
It's my real hair.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
That's my real hair, that's your real hair.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Yeah, there's Christie. Amanda's sister.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Christy taught me in high school. She told me dancing.
He's crazy for you.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Everyone knows everyone. Oh my gosh, this performance. I need
to watch this back. Actually no, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
You don't. Okay, Well I'll explained how I got to
see you. So I had a crush on this guy.
He worked at the local macs in Ellenbrook right shout
out to Peter if you're listening, And he was the
hugest I'm sure still is the hugest Semantha Jade fan.
And I was like, who is this And at the time,
he wasn't out. I wasn't out, so I was kind
of just like, you know whatever anyway, and he said
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he's going to telephone to go watch Samantha Jade. No.
So then I was like, I told to my girlfriends,
like we got to go. Oh, So we went. He
didn't even know I was there, No, And I'm sitting
on one side of the theater. He's sitting on the
other side and he is going ballistics and then he's
writing on Facebook that's my crush, that's my girlfriend, Samantha Jade.
And I'm like, okay, I have no chance with this
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guy because oh he wanted to Samantha Jade anyway, he
came out so sorry, No, it's fine, it's fine. Look,
it's all good. Look. If it wasn't for that, I
wouldn't have gotten to experience in magic of Samantha j
before Expactor.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
There you go. Yes, when I did X Factor, you
would have remembered this.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
I knew all of your songs before even went onto
xpactor because of this one performance.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
I love it. See, this is the thing that I
will say when because I remember back then you think
no one's going to see you, because I remember this
was the time slot. It was a late time slot.
It might have been like twelve o'clock midnight time slot. Yeah,
and I was like, no one's going to no one's
going to care. And then it is that thing where
it's like all of these things lead up to where
you end up. Absolutely, the small things are the big things.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
They are. Absolutely. Now let's talk about Perth for a second,
because I think because you and I are both from Perth,
and Perth always has a special place in my heart
me too, And I looked up before that you didn't
really have that much of a musical family, right, So
tell me about your upbringing in Perth and what led
you to discovering the superstar that you are.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Well.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
So, music was always like my mom and dad are
music lovers, so there was always music in my house.
My mum is from Scotland and my dad is from India,
so I came from a mixed household of listening to
you know, obviously the music we all love and know,
and then different culture music too, which I think is
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what kind of has influenced my music and my life.
But my nana and my papa on my mom's side,
Amazing Grace is like an old Scottish hymn. That was
the first song I ever learned to sing, and it
was yeah, and it was in My Papa would sing
it to me in a Scottish accent, so I actually
think I learned it in a Scottish accent. So that
was kind of like that was my first kind of introduction.
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My dad loved Motown. That was like his favorite style
of music, so the Motown records. I knew every single
song that was my favorite music. And then I asked
my family if I could enter a talent quest and sing,
and they were like.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Okay, yeah, you know.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
My mom was like sure, but she she didn't know
if I was like a you know, good singer. She
was just like, you know what, let's let's go for it,
let's try. It was at the local, you know, Westfield
down the road, at the gallery, I think the gallery
local gallery.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I did a talent performance at the Molly Gallery as well.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
You're younger than me, so it must have been a
fe years later, probably the same month, and I remember
going and I was so nervous and I got up
and I was like, you know that where you have
so much stuff, and I finally got something out and
I was like, oh, but it wasn't It wasn't good.
And the girl said to my mum, tell her to
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come back. She's got something in there, she's got a voice,
she doesn't know how to use it yet, Tell her
to come back. And so I took that on and
I was like, I'm going to go home and I'm
going to practice and I'm going to work really really hard.
And so my mom was like, let's get you a
singing lessons. So I went and did us singing lesson.
I did one and it was so far because it
was like in the hills and if you're from Perth,
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you know that that's a bit drive, right absolutely. And
my brothers were really little. My mom was like, I
just can't like take you there and have the boys
because they're like seven or nine years younger than me.
And she was like, I'm sure you learned enough of
that first lesson. So then I just kind of taught
myself and I went back two years later and I
didn't win, but I think I came like maybe second
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or third. I can't really remember, but I remember the
girl saying to me, I think you've got something there,
and I was like okay. And then I auditioned for
this music, the musical, and I got the role. And
I was fourteen, and that's when I was like, Okay,
I think that maybe I want to be a singer.
I think this is it. Like I kind of always
like that was the dream, but that was like something
where I was like, I auditioned and I got this,
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so that kind of yeah, that kind of made me
kind of really seriously start thinking about music. And then
I don't know if you remember, Rumba Rumba was coming
to Perth, yes I, and there was a slot time
slot at the very beginning for the opener to be
from Perth, and I was like, I'm sending a tape in,
But then I had no tape. We need to make one.
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My parents like, oh god, and she goes. So they
hired my parents. God, they are just the best. They
hired this team to kind of like film me doing
the performance to then send in. Didn't get rumber, they
were like, no, thanks, yep, past no didn't get it.
But then that tape made its way to America. I
do not know how interesting. I don't know. I still
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don't really know how got to LA, but someone called
us from LA and that tape then went on to
get me my giant deal.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
So it's just like a thing where just that you know,
like I say, the small things are the big things,
because if it wasn't for all those little kind of steps, yeah,
you know, I wouldn't have gotten to LA and to
that deal.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Did you have an idea of what kind of entertainer
you'd be the moment you were doing that talent show
at the Galleria, did you already have an idea? Hang on,
I want to be a pop star.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Yeah, I always knew I was. I wanted to be
a pop star. I never yeah, I was never confused
with my vision of the lane I wanted to be in.
Like I loved Mariah, I loved Whitney, I loved Selene,
I loved big singers, but I loved Brittany and I
love Christina aguiler Are. Like I just wanted to wear
really beautiful clothes, have big hair, great makeup, but sing
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and dance and put on a show. And I've always
loved the kind of old Hollywood era because you had
to do it all. And I love that. I think
that's the triple threat thing.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
I love that, the total package, the total pot package.
Right now, you're quite a good dancer, and you surround
yourself with a lot of dancers. I know all your
friends are dancers. I know the dance community in Perth,
they're very passionate. How did that come across too? Because
I feel like, to me, when I see you perform,
I'm seeing Janet Jackson, right, I'm seeing that kind of
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being brown. I'm seeing Janet Jackson because I'm seeing a
really humble, lovely soul. I'm seeing a wonderful vocalist who
can perform without choreography. And then you add the dancing
on top of it. You add the fashion, you add
the esthetic, and it's this total package. Right. So you know,
with most singers, usually once they kind of establish a
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bit of a singing presence, that's when they kind of
adopt the dancing. But you're very involved in that. So
how did you get involved with dancing?
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Well, when I first I think that came when I
moved to LA. So I went to a school where
dance was one of the subjects, but I was so bad,
Like I just wasn't a dancer. I didn't grow up dancing.
My mom was a ballerina, and because of that, she
didn't want to put me into dance because she was like,
if you don't have the passion for it, I just
I don't want to put you into it. And my
passion wasn't that. It was always singing. So it kind
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of like worked out that I didn't do dance. But
then I kind of got to the place at school
where I was like all my friends were dancers and
I wanted to be a dancer, but I was always
the singer, you know. Yeah, And then when I moved
to LA they were like, you need to learn to
dance because obviously you need to be a triple threat
if that's the thing you want to do the pop
star package. And I was like okay, and then it
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was just like I rehearsed every single day. They had
me in there over and over and over again, just
dancing and dancing.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Yeah with LA. I mean I've heard so many stories
of people, you know, trying to establish their koreer in
LA and how brutal it can be and all those
types of things. When you were signed in LA, what
was your experience like because I know from Perth. Growing
up in Perth it's quite I'm not going to say
it's conservative, but it's it's quite a slow place. It is,
so going from there, they're going straight to LA where
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it's just overdrive meeting people these extreme personalities and I
can't imagine being signed to was it given? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
my god, that's what Brittany and Justin's.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
So how did you how did you take that complete
transformation of an experience?
Speaker 3 (13:28):
I mean I was so young, and like you say,
Perth is it's very laid back, and that is the
beauty of the amazing city we're from, is that you
can go there and escape because it is beautiful and
it's small town vibes in a city, and I love
that and I'm grateful to be from there because it's
such an escape. But yes, it is so different. So
I remember being on the plane and I was only fifteen,
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and I was like, I'm going to La like, oh
my gosh. And when I remember getting there and just
thinking like, this is just so different to where I'm from.
And actually it was a little bit more magical back then.
I think it's changed a lot, like it still had
its spark because the Internet wasn't what it is now,
so you couldn't just get everything, you know, like we
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can now at our fingertips. So it was exciting. And
I remember going in for that Jive meeting and thinking,
oh my gosh, like Brittany has walked through these doors,
She's walked in this hole, like, oh my gosh, like
she has done this, she's auditioned in this room, like
all of these things. And the lady who discovered me,
(14:31):
her name was Teresa Lovaba White's and she had discovered
Jessica Simpson and Beyonce those were her two other people
that she had discovered. Yeah, she put Destiny's Child together.
She was part of like with Matthew Knowles.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Yeah, and she was developing you.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
She was who found and signed me. So when she
when I met her, she was like, yeah, you know,
she'd always talk about like, you know, Jessica when she
was young and Beyonce when she was young. I'm standing
wing what this just so weird? And I would it
was so weird because you had to have phone cards
back then, so I would I would use a phone
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card to like call my my friends and give them
updates on my life. And I'm like, guys, and they're
in school at Hampton in Perth and I'm like yeah,
and I'm like, guys, like I'm I just was in
the room with like Justin Timerlay Like it was just
such a weird It was a weird life. It was
a weird life, but a lot of pressure. And also
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when you're young, you jump into things, and I feel like,
as I age, I wish I had some of that
spirit still. So I think that's what you lose, is
the excitement and the spirit to jump in. But I
will say like I'm glad I kind of just dove
in without knowing I actually am glad because I took
it all in I really really did. I was. I
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wasn't as nervous as I am now for things weirdly, really, yes, yeah,
I just was like, Okay, this is what I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Yeah. Do you think it's because just in La you
did probably didn't have time to stop and even allow
your nerves to take any effect. Absolutely, it's just simply go,
go go. You're in front of people making all that
type of stuff and you're.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Told, you're very much told. I remember being told by
the label like, you know, there are a million girls
that would love this opportunity. You're constantly aware that there
are a lot of people behind you in a line,
and so you know, and my mom my, mum and
dad always did such a great job of being like no, no, no,
you're special and you're here because of you, and you know,
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I never lacked in that. But you know obviously that
the industry is it is hard core, and it breaks
you and it tries to keep breaking you, and you
just have to find people and something inside yourself, yeah,
to keep yourself going. And it's hard.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
I understand completely.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Had we had Ricky in who knows all this too,
like yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
The biggues le'son, she learned was just simply like she
she told me that when she got given the deal
from Sony at eighteen, she turned it down because she
was like, I don't really want but this is not
how I'm seeing my career going. There was like, oh,
we'll give you one single or one album and then
we'll see where you go. And she had the balls
to say no.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
But she did trust a lot of people in the
industry very early on who appear so charming and so wonderful.
Did you have that kind of experience too, especially in la.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Oh, definitely and Ricky like that's why, like every time
I see her, you just weirdly get each other on
a level that other people just don't. And it's just
like an unwritten thing where you're like, we just understand
because it is. It's that thing of like it's they
say like, when you're hot, you're hot. When you're not,
you're not, and it is true. When you're doing well,
if something's happening, that's great. Everyone wants to be around you,
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everyone wants to talk to you. Everyone has all the
time in the world. Everyone's laughing at every joke. The
moment you fall off or that, it just doesn't work.
People go with that too and fall, you know, by
the wayside. But that and that is hard. It's really
hard on your ego because everyone has one, and it's
it's really really tough to take when you were younger,
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Like I lost my deal with Jive. We actually left
that deal. I we left that deal. I actually didn't lose.
I actually didn't get dropped. That's kind of been the story.
But I actually didn't get dropped. We actually decided to leave.
But when I left that deal, I was twenty.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Two.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
No, oh no, I was twenty one. I was twenty one. Yeah,
And it was basically like I would have gotten dropped
if I didn't leave, but we made the decision. I
trusted my management at the time. Then they were like,
let's leave because you'll get another deal. And I was
like okay, and They're like the uniet dropped anyway, and
I was like, okay, that was wrong.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
That was wrong.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Oh yeah, that's a whole other story of my management
what they did to me. But you know, that's you know,
it's over now, thank god. But I was twenty one
and I thought my life was over. I was like,
I'm I'm done. I'm a has been. I couldn't get demos, Like,
it was really really tough, and I'm now I'm thirty seven,
and I'm like, I was twenty one. Yeah, like, and
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I thought my life and I allowed people to tell
me that it's basically done for you at twenty one.
It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
I'm happy that you said that. You're glad you got
that experience so early on, right, Oh yeah, yeah, it
must have. You must have had so much support, yes
with you after that happened, going through the pinnacles, so
like the highest of lives, high the mecha of popular music.
Then to be told it's done, you should leave. Who
helped you get back on your feet to audition for
X Factor?
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Okay? So that was genuinely my family. So I was
not going to do it. I was like, because I
came home and I was like twenty four. I think
I was twenty four, twenty five. I was twenty five,
that's right, and I was like, what do I do?
What do I do? It's all over for me? And
I was singing on Glee before I left. I was
doing vocals for Glee, but it was behind the scenes, right,
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so it was just people would hear it, but they
it would be the actors, you know, mouthing our vocals.
So that's not where I wanted to ever be. And
so I was like, oh, I could guess I could
do that, but it's not really what I want to do.
So I thought I'd move home as well because I
needed to come home to my family. I needed to
be around people that really knew me. And I remember
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saying to my mom and dad, like, do I just
try one of the shows because the show, the shows
like X Factor and The Voice and Idol, they seem
to work really well in Australia because I feel like
Australia want to be part of the journey from the
very start. I love that about Australia. They're like, let us, like,
we want to help develop this artist. And so I
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watched that and I was like a lot of people
that are in pop here have come from a show.
So I was like, maybe I do that, And that
was kind of it, and I went in just going
if this doesn't work, it's over for me and I'll
completely do something else, like not music, and if it works,
it works, And thank god it.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Worked out, absolutely did thank god. You know, the one
thing I want to know is everyone always talks about
reality TV, right, like, you know, all the things are
coming out of the woodwork, and you know the practices
and ethics all those types of things. Do you feel
that your time in LA and experiencing all of that
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rush in front of you, all of the people, the experiences,
is that what kind of made you stay true and
strong during.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
That hundred percent? Oh my gosh, a hundred percent. Because
I came from that kind of school of hard knocks,
like in LA, where it was just like, you know,
I remember being told that I had I was like sixteen,
My body had not developed. I'm small, I was a
late developer, but I had I hadn't been to a
(21:44):
gym like I just you know, I was young, and
I remember I was wearing these little like low rise
like jeans and I had a little bit of like
stomach that was like hanging over the top of the
gym like tiny bit. I'm sixteen, Yeah, baby fat too.
And I remember them being like, she needs abs. That's
not good enough, she needs to get in the gym,
she needs to stop eating. And I was like, well,
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not the label that was actually management. And I was like,
I remember my mum was disgusted, and my mom was like,
that is not happening. She can, she'll work out for
her health absolutely, but that no, like you are not
going to tell because you're going to give her a complex.
And to this day, I have a complex about my stomach.
I never you'll probably noticed in costumes, I never ever,
ever ever show my stomach because that's a complex, that
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it's a thing. But that's been put into my mind
since I was fifteen sixteen. I think I just was
turning sixteen because it was just before my sixteenth birthday.
Because I remember I had this outfit I was gonna
wear and I ended up buying a dress that would
cover my stomach because I was like, it's like little
things that they you know, kind of yeah, so and
those things take a long time. Even my teeth. It
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was like my head because these two were Venias, these
two here, yeah, so I had like like bunny teeth,
like bunny teeth, and they were always like, you need
to get your teeth fixing too, and I did. I
got braces and then I took them off too early,
and then when I did X Factor, there's all these
comments about my teeth and I got Veneers straight away
just these two. So it's just so many things that
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you that's the hard thing, is like you. But also
then you think I'm putting myself out there for that
because that's the job. But I wish it wouldn't have
happened so young.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
I want to take you back to when you were
in La Okay, because I know you love acting. I
menaged to find something out of the woodwork. Oh no,
it's your first acting gig. Is this your first one?
It's benefit Do you remember this one? I sure do.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
There I am.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Really good actress, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
This was my first role that I actually landed. I'd
been on a thousand auditions before this role. But oh
my god, that's poor Wesley from Vampire.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
He was in this movie. Oh my gosh, so this
movie I so I went. I went on this audition
and I had been on so many and none had
landed right like. I'd gotten actually close to nine O
two one, oh the Resurgence of Nino two, So I
was really excited about that. But then it didn't happen.
And then I went into this one and they were like,
call me back. Because I was so used to not
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getting the part. I was like, I won't get it.
I won't get it yea. Anyway, this guy, the director
of this film, was so lovely and he was like yeah,
he's like I think like we're going to keep your
Australian accent. And I was like, because that's a really
good sign. When they changed something obviously for you to
play the role absolutely, and I was like, oh, okay,
maybe I will get this anyway. So he's like, come
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in and audition. He goes, all right, your character is
a little bit slutty. I was like, oh, and she
wears a lot of makeup and she hasn't really found
herself yet. And I was like, oh god, okay, and
I think I was twenty two. Okay, yeah, I think
I'm twenty two in this And I was like, okay,
(24:53):
h I just turned twenty No, because I just lost
my deal, that's right. Okay, it was twenty one because
I I was doing this movie and then after that
was when we left when the deal thing happened. Okay, yeah, right,
just around the same few months. So yeah, so I
got this role. I was like, this is so cool.
And then they're like, you're going to the Bahamas to
shoot it, and I was like the Bajas. I was like,
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I'll take it.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
So cool. So we got to spend three months in
the Bahamas shooting this film, which was really really cool.
And then Paul Wesley was the lead character in it,
and he was lead role in it, and he was
so so lovely and he obviously went on to do
Vampire Daries I think the next year, so it's really cool.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Well, going from that then to you playing Kylie in
the Inexcess biopic and Home and Away, I guess what
inspired you to make those decisions, make those choices as
that character in Home and Away.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Well, so obviously I'd played Kylie and that was amazing
and what an experience and just I mean, I'm such
a fan and that was just a great first proper
role for me to play and I loved it.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Did you have you hear from Kylie? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (26:01):
I spoke to her and she was so kind and
like she was like, you did a great job. And
I was like, okay, oh that's all I need, you know, like,
is the approval of the person, and now I'm good.
So that was amazing. Yeah, that was great. And then
so with Home and Away, they approached me and they
were like, you know, we'd like for you to be
part of the show, and I it's such an iconic
Australian TV show. There are so many incredible people that
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have come from it. And even without that, it's just
like it's an Australian like iconic moment to be a
movement to be a part of. I've always always watched
it and seen it, and yeah, I was like, yeah,
I'll do it. I didn't even know the character yet.
I was like sure. And then they were like, well, okay,
but your character, we want you to play someone that
you aren't like. We want to have something completely different.
(26:45):
And I was like, oh god, okay. They're like, you're
a mother and I was like oh and I was
only twenty what was I twenty seven? It's okay, you're
a mother. You have two kids, but you lost your
kids because you kind of do some really bad stuff,
like you deal drugs and you yep me. I'm like,
oh my.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
God, how did they think that you fit the brief?
You did a great job. But it's like, oh, yes, Samantha
Jay the Pie Australian sweetheart has done a bad thing
in her life, is such a.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Clean I did not do drugs.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I was like, this is gonna be hard research.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
But yeah, so that and then like and I, like,
you know, worked in some places, some terrible places and
done some things, and so I was like, okay, yeah,
I'll take it on. I'll take it on. And it
was really interesting. I had to hold a gun because
I actually like, yeah, I pulled a gun on people,
like I did some crazy things in the show, crazy things.
But it was really fun because I was like, Wow,
(27:40):
I get to play this like kind of naughty girl
and I loved it. And I really honestly the character
because at the very so I kind of every week
would get my script. I didn't really know how I
was going to exit the show. So I was like,
am I going to die? Because I thought maybe I
would die because I was getting myself into so many
bad situations. I was like, they're gonna kill me off.
(28:01):
And then they didn't kill me off, but it was
kind of worse. I got Nick Westaway, who was one
of the famous like everyone loved him, one of the
boys in the in the show. They're like, you're gonna
send He's going to go to jail for your crime,
and I was like, you're kidding me. So then I
spent about a year of everyone hating me. I can't
(28:23):
because some people think it's real.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
People are devoted to that show. I did work experience
on that show, right, So I worked on that show
for a week, and oh my gosh, the fans.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Yeah, the fandom is crazy.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Like I think we went to Palm Beach and shot
a bit and all these fans they just know when
things are being shot. Where that.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Yeah, I understand I the hate. I remember I went
to maybe it was Telethon. It was either Telethon or
like Carol's. It was something that you know, a lot
of the personalities from Channel seven do together, and I
got People were like I cannot believe what you did,
but like you got our favorite character killed off and
(29:03):
I was like, I'm so sorry, Like that was in
the script I did to do that.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Really really crazy for like ages, I've got heaps of
I hate messages. It was really interesting.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
It was like, oh my gosh, do you want to
do acting again? Is that something you're doing?
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Oh, definitely. I want to be in a movie musical.
That has always been a dream of mine, like like
growing up, you know, Greece was the first one, obsession
beyond obsession with that a million times, seeing it a
million times. Sound of music Chicago, Like what was the
other one? Mull and Rouge, Like I want to be
(29:37):
in something like that, like a dream.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Amazing. Okay, I'm gonna put it out there. Ye people,
you know, i'd tell the people you get the two
people that I know. That's right, it's it's still people.
It's people. So let's go to now, Yes, what have
you learned in those twenty I mean, I'm assuming twenty years, right,
going through LA, going through leaving now, knowing that you've
(29:59):
left the label, through advice of management, going through X factor,
doing in excess Kylie home and away. People always have
the one thing that they've kind of learned. I was
listening to a podcast you did with Casey Barrow I
love Yeah, and you were saying that you don't have
a champion, you never kind of had it, So you're
(30:22):
really learning all these things on your own and kind
of you know, I mean, is there anything new that
you're learning at this point in your career where.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Yeah, I think that, like I think, you know, I
actually think that's the lesson is that you have to
always be open to learning because things always change. And
I've been doing this a really, really long time, and
there are things that definitely I know how to do,
like I work ethics a big one that I'm glad
I learned in the States because it was really intense.
(30:51):
But that's good because now I know when I'm on,
I'm on and I work, and I go and I
go and I go, and then probably make myself get sick,
you know, and I'm like, yes, you know, and then
I have to take some time off. But my work,
I think, I know is always good. I know I'll deliver.
But I think that something that changes is you have
to listen to people around you. You have to listen
(31:12):
to the to the youth, and you have to listen
to the people about what's cool now and what's you know.
I'm not saying to jump on every bandwagon, but you
do have to change with the times. And I think
that's something that's big that I've tried to kind of
listen to. And I always I'm very appreciative for social
media in the way that I can speak directly with
(31:34):
my followers and ask them what they like and what
they want to hear from me. I always have a
vision of what I want to do, but I allow,
I really allow in voices and go, Okay, they liked this,
maybe I'll like explore that a little bit more. Or
oh they like when I sing this way, Okay, great,
maybe I'll look into that. So I'm very open to
(31:56):
constructive criticism and to feedback. And I think it's really.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
So.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
There's that, and then I also think that having the
right people around you is probably the number one thing.
It's really important. And I basically have the same people
I've always had around me around me. You met my
friend Zach Yes, who has been there since the start,
literally the start of when the jive thing happened, when
(32:23):
like all of my big moments, when my mom passed away,
he was there. He moved to Perth. Basically, he lives
in la He is always whenever I crumble, he is there,
beyond there to just pick me up. You need those
people who know you at your lowest and also in
those darkest hours. You know, you need those people. And
(32:44):
I've got my family. My dad is my rock, my brothers,
their girlfriends, like my husband. You just have to have
a very close knit crew.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Yeah, I've said this at the beginning that you're such
a sweetheart, you have such a beautiful race personality, so angelic, humble,
thank you. Who do you think is responsible for your
personal makeup that makes you who you are?
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Definitely my dad and my mom, My mom and my dad.
I think that my mom and dad they're there. They constantly,
constantly are reminding us, my brothers and I to be
grateful for things as much as like and and my
mom always used to say, my mum was very spiritual,
(33:29):
and she's to always say, you know it is it's written.
Things are already as they're going to be right, and
there are no mistakes. Things happen for a reason. It's written.
So you're going to go through ups and downs, but
go through them, really go through them, and it's okay
not to be okay. So whenever I do go through
my low moments, and sometimes I it depends on the day.
(33:49):
Sometimes I read the comments and I see the bad
one and the bad ones like it's like it's bold
and italic and unlike, yeah, and some days I don't
and I just look at the good. It depends on
the day. Or you know, you can hear a comment
or you can have a you know, something happening in
your personal life that you let control you. And she
(34:09):
used to always be like, that's okay, No one's perfect,
no one's okay all the time. So I think the
being allowed to fall and being allowed to have those moments,
I think that's important. Otherwise you can become a fake person, absolutely,
because you're always putting on a front. Not that I
don't try and always be happy and because that's actually
(34:32):
who I am anyway, but if i'm if I'm not,
I will step back and I will sit back.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
You know.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
I don't like to bring people around me down, you know,
and my dad is possibly the kindest, bubbliest, happiest, most
real human you'll ever meet. So nothing's too hard for
my dad. And that lesson I think has been the
lesson that the thread throughout my life things too hard.
(35:01):
You can get through anything. Nothing's too hard. And so
if someone asked me to do something or you know,
like even I've done nearly ten missions now with the Salvos,
which I love. I love that work that I do,
and a lot of the time you know that they're
really emotionally grueling and draining, and you're meeting these people
(35:22):
and you're like, how can I you feel helpless? Because
you get what else can you do? And my Dad's
like always like nothing's too hard, like keep in contact
with them and why don't you do this? And why
don't they? So I just I love that lesson from
my dad.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
It's so touching considering what your family's gone through to
hear something.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Like that, Oh my gosh, yeah, because.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
I mean some people just really think it's impossible to
be able to go through in a grief and pain
and things like that. So it's very touching to hear that,
especially come from your dad. So wonderful. Well, look speaking
about loud and bold things that have you know, come
on social media, let's talk about ten years since sweet
talk exploded all over TikTok. I'm so crazy crazy, I've
(36:06):
got a few videos, yeah that I have to show up,
Like look how much love you are getting on your
socials people. And the funny thing is the thing I
like is that people are actually like saying, everyone's stream
Samantha Jade, isn't this wild?
Speaker 3 (36:20):
I mean, it's absolutely amazing to see something that you
did ten years ago being loved by a whole new audience.
Like it's amazing. That's the power of music.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Absolutely, it's like it's global success. At the moment, I
was counting the amount of videos that were made from
that sound of your song, and it's going up. I
think it's up to fourteen thousand now, is it. Yeah,
so fourteen thousand TikTok users have made a video from
your sound. It is so cool, and it ranges from
certain people around the world. I remember you saying that
Casey podcast that you are the thanks of kin, that
(36:55):
you would love some success out of the country.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
Absolutely, I think that's happening. Oh my god, on gross,
I mean, it's so crazy, right because I like TikTok
and during COVID, I like loved it, but I kind
of step back from it. I'm useless and I don't
do enough on TikTok. But anyway, my brother, my little brother,
he called me, and he like rarely calls me or
(37:18):
answerts my phone calls, so whenever he calls, I get
so excited or I think something's wrong, So like, what's
going on? And he's like, just song's going viral on TikTok,
and I was like, which one I was hoping? Obviously
it's peachy and he's like, no sweet talk, and I
was like, what that's ten years old. That's so long ago,
but also yay great and then I did look up
all the videos and I was like, this is so
cool because I do think it's one of those songs
(37:40):
that just kind of stands at test the time. It's
such a great pop song, absolutely, and I know we're
seeing a resurgence in pop, so I'm glad it's getting
the justice it deserves. It's a great song.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
You know, on Behalf of Me, the Gaze, the Aussie
pop fans, we're all so happy that you're getting your
flowers when it comes to your music. And I like
how a new generation is just becoming obsessed with you,
which goes to show that you are listening to the
youth and the way things are going. I love that.
That's what's the one thing you want the world to
(38:13):
know about, Samantha Jade?
Speaker 3 (38:14):
Oh what a question. M That is a huge question.
Probably that I really really really love what I do
and I always put my heart and soul into every project.
I really do so, and also that every time I
get great feedback and whenever I perform, and especially at
(38:40):
LGBTQI plus clubs. I just get this love back and
that keeps me going. It fuels the fire in me,
because sometimes that fire burns really low. It's a really
tough industry. It's really hard. So yeah, I think I
want them to know that I'm grateful for the support
because there are so many times I would have quit
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if it weren't for the incredible support.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Yeah, brilliant Samantha Jade, Thank you so much for being
co pilot on the show. Be the longest chat I'd had,
so I appreciate it very much. And I think that
we're entering a brand new era of Samantha Jada. I
really do.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Oh my god, I'm lovely said that. I hope so.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Oh no, it will happen. It will happen. Thank you,
thank you so much, thank you. And then you have it,
Australia's Sweetheart, Samantha Jade. I mean, what a story. I mean,
a Perth girl going to La in an instant from
a video audition that someone just stumbled across, and then
just being thrown into the world of Hollywood at such
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a young age. You know, listening to her, she must
have gone through so much to be able to maintain
that humility, maintain that gratitude and also have the resilience
to start again. And it wouldn't have been possible without
her upbringing, without her beautiful parents, just her to be
the most kind of soul that she is. It was
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a really inspiring chat. Thank you so much for joining
me on my first podcast episode of The Jamain Plane.
Hopefully I did okay. Please feel free to send your feedback.
Follow the Germain Plan on Instagram and if you want
to listen to the radio show where we celebrate the music,
we're on every Friday night, seven pm on nov Throwbacks,
you can download the Nova Player app and listen to
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it from there. My name is Jermaine. We're flying back
in time. Have a great weekend week whenever you're watching
this or listening to this, and I'll chat to you
next time.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
Flying back in time. This is the Domain Plane.
I'm Jamaine Divaz and this is the Domaine Plane. It's
a space to reconnect with the music and memories that
shaped us, not just the songs we loved, but the
stories behind them and the people we were when we
heard them. I've got to have honest, fun and reflective
conversations with artists like take that, Ricky Lee, Samant the Jay,
(00:20):
just to name a few, diving into the moments, the meaning,
and the emotion tied to it all. Because when we
look back at what moved us, then we start to
understand who we are now. This show is about connection, reflection, healing,
and coming home to who we've always been. I'm so
glad you're.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Here, flying back in time. This is the Domain Plane.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Oh yes, hello, it's Jermaine here and welcome to the
first episode of The Jermaine Plane. I'm not gonna lie, guys,
I'm really nervous about this. I'm a radio announcer. I
have my own show called The Jamain Plane, and this
feels so new to me. This feels so different because
I'm usually talking in between songs, but this is like
(01:05):
a full on conversation that I'm having with you, guys.
Nervous nervous, nervous, But just to give you some context, Hi,
I'm Jamaine. I am a huge pop music fan. I'm
a child of the nineties. I grew up in the
two thousands. I spent my young adulthood in the early
twenty tens, and the Jermaine Plain The radio show is
a celebration of the music. I wanted a place where
(01:27):
we could play all of the songs that we knew
and loved when we were growing up, songs that we
could kind of escape with, and just to really enjoy
our Friday nights. That's how simple I wanted this idea
to be. Then I decided, Okay, it's time to bring
guests on. It's not a radio show with our guests.
And I cleverly thought, I'm going to get these guests
on as co pilots on the show. So they're just
(01:48):
going to come on. They're going to go and share
their favorite throwbacks and that's it. But as I was
doing this, I started to realize, hang on, these guys
are sharing some really, really great stories that are attached
to these songs. Songs that connect to their childhood, songs
that connect to their journey their career. Artists they've worked
(02:09):
with celebrities, They've worked with some real, real important, key
moments of their career, pivotal experiences. And that's when I
really thought, you know what, these conversations are much bigger
than what I can put on a radio show. I
need a place where I can expand the show. I
need a place where I can expand these conversations. And
(02:29):
that's what this podcast is. It's a chance for you
to get to know the makers and creators of the songs,
the products, the things that you loved, and also people
whose careers were heavily influenced by the things that we
knew in London we were kids or when we were teenagers,
young adults. That's what this podcast is about. Now. My
(02:50):
first guest on the Jermaine Plain podcast is one of
my good friends. We grew up in the same area together. Gosh,
you had some stories attached to that. I'm talking about
other than Samantha Jade, the pop star that you know
from X Factor. But there is a lot more to
Samantha Ja that you don't know. But you get to
know about the Perth girl who moved to la in
(03:11):
an instant and got chewed up by the music industry
and what I think she got spat out and she
had to start all over again. This is a story
about grit. This is a story about determination. This is
a story about family. This is a story about rebirthing yourself.
This is my chat with Samantha Ja. Now I want
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to throw you back just a little bit. So the
first time I even heard of Samantha j and the
first time I saw you, No, no, no, believe me. It's
so fine. Let's go back to two thousand and nine
telethon right at the Perth Convention Exhibition Center, and you
were on stage performing this with your crew.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Oh my gosh, Yeah, there's Amanda.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
It's Amanda, you have best friend.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Look, okay this let me talk you through this outfit. Okay,
So for people listening that can't see, I am wearing
a Wheels and doll baby tank top that I spent
so much money on. It was like two hundred dollars
and that skirt is also wheels no Baby, and wow
it was expensive. I just remember saving all my money
to buy that outfit. Here to so dark.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
I loved it. Well, it's chocolate.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
It's my real hair.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
That's my real hair, that's your real hair.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Yeah, there's Christie. Amanda's sister.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Christy taught me in high school. She told me dancing.
He's crazy for you.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Everyone knows everyone. Oh my gosh, this performance. I need
to watch this back. Actually no, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
You don't. Okay, Well I'll explained how I got to
see you. So I had a crush on this guy.
He worked at the local macs in Ellenbrook right shout
out to Peter if you're listening, And he was the
hugest I'm sure still is the hugest Semantha Jade fan.
And I was like, who is this And at the time,
he wasn't out. I wasn't out, so I was kind
of just like, you know whatever anyway, and he said
(05:04):
he's going to telephone to go watch Samantha Jade. No.
So then I was like, I told to my girlfriends,
like we got to go. Oh, So we went. He
didn't even know I was there, No, And I'm sitting
on one side of the theater. He's sitting on the
other side and he is going ballistics and then he's
writing on Facebook that's my crush, that's my girlfriend, Samantha Jade.
And I'm like, okay, I have no chance with this
(05:25):
guy because oh he wanted to Samantha Jade anyway, he
came out so sorry, No, it's fine, it's fine. Look,
it's all good. Look. If it wasn't for that, I
wouldn't have gotten to experience in magic of Samantha j
before Expactor.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
There you go. Yes, when I did X Factor, you
would have remembered this.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
I knew all of your songs before even went onto
xpactor because of this one performance.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
I love it. See, this is the thing that I
will say when because I remember back then you think
no one's going to see you, because I remember this
was the time slot. It was a late time slot.
It might have been like twelve o'clock midnight time slot. Yeah,
and I was like, no one's going to no one's
going to care. And then it is that thing where
it's like all of these things lead up to where
you end up. Absolutely, the small things are the big things.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
They are. Absolutely. Now let's talk about Perth for a second,
because I think because you and I are both from Perth,
and Perth always has a special place in my heart
me too, And I looked up before that you didn't
really have that much of a musical family, right, So
tell me about your upbringing in Perth and what led
you to discovering the superstar that you are.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Well.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
So, music was always like my mom and dad are
music lovers, so there was always music in my house.
My mum is from Scotland and my dad is from India,
so I came from a mixed household of listening to
you know, obviously the music we all love and know,
and then different culture music too, which I think is
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what kind of has influenced my music and my life.
But my nana and my papa on my mom's side,
Amazing Grace is like an old Scottish hymn. That was
the first song I ever learned to sing, and it
was yeah, and it was in My Papa would sing
it to me in a Scottish accent, so I actually
think I learned it in a Scottish accent. So that
was kind of like that was my first kind of introduction.
(07:14):
My dad loved Motown. That was like his favorite style
of music, so the Motown records. I knew every single
song that was my favorite music. And then I asked
my family if I could enter a talent quest and sing,
and they were like.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Okay, yeah, you know.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
My mom was like sure, but she she didn't know
if I was like a you know, good singer. She
was just like, you know what, let's let's go for it,
let's try. It was at the local, you know, Westfield
down the road, at the gallery, I think the gallery
local gallery.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I did a talent performance at the Molly Gallery as well.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
You're younger than me, so it must have been a
fe years later, probably the same month, and I remember
going and I was so nervous and I got up
and I was like, you know that where you have
so much stuff, and I finally got something out and
I was like, oh, but it wasn't It wasn't good.
And the girl said to my mum, tell her to
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come back. She's got something in there, she's got a voice,
she doesn't know how to use it yet, Tell her
to come back. And so I took that on and
I was like, I'm going to go home and I'm
going to practice and I'm going to work really really hard.
And so my mom was like, let's get you a
singing lessons. So I went and did us singing lesson.
I did one and it was so far because it
was like in the hills and if you're from Perth,
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you know that that's a bit drive, right absolutely. And
my brothers were really little. My mom was like, I
just can't like take you there and have the boys
because they're like seven or nine years younger than me.
And she was like, I'm sure you learned enough of
that first lesson. So then I just kind of taught
myself and I went back two years later and I
didn't win, but I think I came like maybe second
(08:52):
or third. I can't really remember, but I remember the
girl saying to me, I think you've got something there,
and I was like okay. And then I auditioned for
this music, the musical, and I got the role. And
I was fourteen, and that's when I was like, Okay,
I think that maybe I want to be a singer.
I think this is it. Like I kind of always
like that was the dream, but that was like something
where I was like, I auditioned and I got this,
(09:13):
so that kind of yeah, that kind of made me
kind of really seriously start thinking about music. And then
I don't know if you remember, Rumba Rumba was coming
to Perth, yes I, and there was a slot time
slot at the very beginning for the opener to be
from Perth, and I was like, I'm sending a tape in,
But then I had no tape. We need to make one.
(09:36):
My parents like, oh god, and she goes. So they
hired my parents. God, they are just the best. They
hired this team to kind of like film me doing
the performance to then send in. Didn't get rumber, they
were like, no, thanks, yep, past no didn't get it.
But then that tape made its way to America. I
do not know how interesting. I don't know. I still
(09:58):
don't really know how got to LA, but someone called
us from LA and that tape then went on to
get me my giant deal.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
So it's just like a thing where just that you know,
like I say, the small things are the big things,
because if it wasn't for all those little kind of steps, yeah,
you know, I wouldn't have gotten to LA and to
that deal.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Did you have an idea of what kind of entertainer
you'd be the moment you were doing that talent show
at the Galleria, did you already have an idea? Hang on,
I want to be a pop star.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Yeah, I always knew I was. I wanted to be
a pop star. I never yeah, I was never confused
with my vision of the lane I wanted to be in.
Like I loved Mariah, I loved Whitney, I loved Selene,
I loved big singers, but I loved Brittany and I
love Christina aguiler Are. Like I just wanted to wear
really beautiful clothes, have big hair, great makeup, but sing
(10:54):
and dance and put on a show. And I've always
loved the kind of old Hollywood era because you had
to do it all. And I love that. I think
that's the triple threat thing.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
I love that, the total package, the total pot package.
Right now, you're quite a good dancer, and you surround
yourself with a lot of dancers. I know all your
friends are dancers. I know the dance community in Perth,
they're very passionate. How did that come across too? Because
I feel like, to me, when I see you perform,
I'm seeing Janet Jackson, right, I'm seeing that kind of
(11:27):
being brown. I'm seeing Janet Jackson because I'm seeing a
really humble, lovely soul. I'm seeing a wonderful vocalist who
can perform without choreography. And then you add the dancing
on top of it. You add the fashion, you add
the esthetic, and it's this total package. Right. So you know,
with most singers, usually once they kind of establish a
(11:48):
bit of a singing presence, that's when they kind of
adopt the dancing. But you're very involved in that. So
how did you get involved with dancing?
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Well, when I first I think that came when I
moved to LA. So I went to a school where
dance was one of the subjects, but I was so bad,
Like I just wasn't a dancer. I didn't grow up dancing.
My mom was a ballerina, and because of that, she
didn't want to put me into dance because she was like,
if you don't have the passion for it, I just
I don't want to put you into it. And my
passion wasn't that. It was always singing. So it kind
(12:17):
of like worked out that I didn't do dance. But
then I kind of got to the place at school
where I was like all my friends were dancers and
I wanted to be a dancer, but I was always
the singer, you know. Yeah, And then when I moved
to LA they were like, you need to learn to
dance because obviously you need to be a triple threat
if that's the thing you want to do the pop
star package. And I was like okay, and then it
(12:37):
was just like I rehearsed every single day. They had
me in there over and over and over again, just
dancing and dancing.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Yeah with LA. I mean I've heard so many stories
of people, you know, trying to establish their koreer in
LA and how brutal it can be and all those
types of things. When you were signed in LA, what
was your experience like because I know from Perth. Growing
up in Perth it's quite I'm not going to say
it's conservative, but it's it's quite a slow place. It is,
so going from there, they're going straight to LA where
(13:07):
it's just overdrive meeting people these extreme personalities and I
can't imagine being signed to was it given? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
my god, that's what Brittany and Justin's.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
So how did you how did you take that complete
transformation of an experience?
Speaker 3 (13:28):
I mean I was so young, and like you say,
Perth is it's very laid back, and that is the
beauty of the amazing city we're from, is that you
can go there and escape because it is beautiful and
it's small town vibes in a city, and I love
that and I'm grateful to be from there because it's
such an escape. But yes, it is so different. So
I remember being on the plane and I was only fifteen,
(13:50):
and I was like, I'm going to La like, oh
my gosh. And when I remember getting there and just
thinking like, this is just so different to where I'm from.
And actually it was a little bit more magical back then.
I think it's changed a lot, like it still had
its spark because the Internet wasn't what it is now,
so you couldn't just get everything, you know, like we
(14:10):
can now at our fingertips. So it was exciting. And
I remember going in for that Jive meeting and thinking,
oh my gosh, like Brittany has walked through these doors,
She's walked in this hole, like, oh my gosh, like
she has done this, she's auditioned in this room, like
all of these things. And the lady who discovered me,
(14:31):
her name was Teresa Lovaba White's and she had discovered
Jessica Simpson and Beyonce those were her two other people
that she had discovered. Yeah, she put Destiny's Child together.
She was part of like with Matthew Knowles.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Yeah, and she was developing you.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
She was who found and signed me. So when she
when I met her, she was like, yeah, you know,
she'd always talk about like, you know, Jessica when she
was young and Beyonce when she was young. I'm standing
wing what this just so weird? And I would it
was so weird because you had to have phone cards
back then, so I would I would use a phone
(15:06):
card to like call my my friends and give them
updates on my life. And I'm like, guys, and they're
in school at Hampton in Perth and I'm like yeah,
and I'm like, guys, like I'm I just was in
the room with like Justin Timerlay Like it was just
such a weird It was a weird life. It was
a weird life, but a lot of pressure. And also
(15:27):
when you're young, you jump into things, and I feel like,
as I age, I wish I had some of that
spirit still. So I think that's what you lose, is
the excitement and the spirit to jump in. But I
will say like I'm glad I kind of just dove
in without knowing I actually am glad because I took
it all in I really really did. I was. I
(15:48):
wasn't as nervous as I am now for things weirdly, really, yes, yeah,
I just was like, Okay, this is what I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Yeah. Do you think it's because just in La you
did probably didn't have time to stop and even allow
your nerves to take any effect. Absolutely, it's just simply go,
go go. You're in front of people making all that
type of stuff and you're.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Told, you're very much told. I remember being told by
the label like, you know, there are a million girls
that would love this opportunity. You're constantly aware that there
are a lot of people behind you in a line,
and so you know, and my mom my, mum and
dad always did such a great job of being like no, no, no,
you're special and you're here because of you, and you know,
(16:31):
I never lacked in that. But you know obviously that
the industry is it is hard core, and it breaks
you and it tries to keep breaking you, and you
just have to find people and something inside yourself, yeah,
to keep yourself going. And it's hard.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
I understand completely.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Had we had Ricky in who knows all this too,
like yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
The biggues le'son, she learned was just simply like she
she told me that when she got given the deal
from Sony at eighteen, she turned it down because she
was like, I don't really want but this is not
how I'm seeing my career going. There was like, oh,
we'll give you one single or one album and then
we'll see where you go. And she had the balls
to say no.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
But she did trust a lot of people in the
industry very early on who appear so charming and so wonderful.
Did you have that kind of experience too, especially in la.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Oh, definitely and Ricky like that's why, like every time
I see her, you just weirdly get each other on
a level that other people just don't. And it's just
like an unwritten thing where you're like, we just understand
because it is. It's that thing of like it's they
say like, when you're hot, you're hot. When you're not,
you're not, and it is true. When you're doing well,
if something's happening, that's great. Everyone wants to be around you,
(17:45):
everyone wants to talk to you. Everyone has all the
time in the world. Everyone's laughing at every joke. The
moment you fall off or that, it just doesn't work.
People go with that too and fall, you know, by
the wayside. But that and that is hard. It's really
hard on your ego because everyone has one, and it's
it's really really tough to take when you were younger,
(18:06):
Like I lost my deal with Jive. We actually left
that deal. I we left that deal. I actually didn't lose.
I actually didn't get dropped. That's kind of been the story.
But I actually didn't get dropped. We actually decided to leave.
But when I left that deal, I was twenty.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Two.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
No, oh no, I was twenty one. I was twenty one. Yeah,
And it was basically like I would have gotten dropped
if I didn't leave, but we made the decision. I
trusted my management at the time. Then they were like,
let's leave because you'll get another deal. And I was
like okay, and They're like the uniet dropped anyway, and
I was like, okay, that was wrong.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
That was wrong.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Oh yeah, that's a whole other story of my management
what they did to me. But you know, that's you know,
it's over now, thank god. But I was twenty one
and I thought my life was over. I was like,
I'm I'm done. I'm a has been. I couldn't get demos, Like,
it was really really tough, and I'm now I'm thirty seven,
and I'm like, I was twenty one. Yeah, like, and
(19:03):
I thought my life and I allowed people to tell
me that it's basically done for you at twenty one.
It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
I'm happy that you said that. You're glad you got
that experience so early on, right, Oh yeah, yeah, it
must have. You must have had so much support, yes
with you after that happened, going through the pinnacles, so
like the highest of lives, high the mecha of popular music.
Then to be told it's done, you should leave. Who
helped you get back on your feet to audition for
X Factor?
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Okay? So that was genuinely my family. So I was
not going to do it. I was like, because I
came home and I was like twenty four. I think
I was twenty four, twenty five. I was twenty five,
that's right, and I was like, what do I do?
What do I do? It's all over for me? And
I was singing on Glee before I left. I was
doing vocals for Glee, but it was behind the scenes, right,
(19:52):
so it was just people would hear it, but they
it would be the actors, you know, mouthing our vocals.
So that's not where I wanted to ever be. And
so I was like, oh, I could guess I could
do that, but it's not really what I want to do.
So I thought I'd move home as well because I
needed to come home to my family. I needed to
be around people that really knew me. And I remember
(20:15):
saying to my mom and dad, like, do I just
try one of the shows because the show, the shows
like X Factor and The Voice and Idol, they seem
to work really well in Australia because I feel like
Australia want to be part of the journey from the
very start. I love that about Australia. They're like, let us, like,
we want to help develop this artist. And so I
(20:37):
watched that and I was like a lot of people
that are in pop here have come from a show.
So I was like, maybe I do that, And that
was kind of it, and I went in just going
if this doesn't work, it's over for me and I'll
completely do something else, like not music, and if it works,
it works, And thank god it.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Worked out, absolutely did thank god. You know, the one
thing I want to know is everyone always talks about
reality TV, right, like, you know, all the things are
coming out of the woodwork, and you know the practices
and ethics all those types of things. Do you feel
that your time in LA and experiencing all of that
(21:16):
rush in front of you, all of the people, the experiences,
is that what kind of made you stay true and
strong during.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
That hundred percent? Oh my gosh, a hundred percent. Because
I came from that kind of school of hard knocks,
like in LA, where it was just like, you know,
I remember being told that I had I was like sixteen,
My body had not developed. I'm small, I was a
late developer, but I had I hadn't been to a
(21:44):
gym like I just you know, I was young, and
I remember I was wearing these little like low rise
like jeans and I had a little bit of like
stomach that was like hanging over the top of the
gym like tiny bit. I'm sixteen, Yeah, baby fat too.
And I remember them being like, she needs abs. That's
not good enough, she needs to get in the gym,
she needs to stop eating. And I was like, well,
(22:04):
not the label that was actually management. And I was like,
I remember my mum was disgusted, and my mom was like,
that is not happening. She can, she'll work out for
her health absolutely, but that no, like you are not
going to tell because you're going to give her a complex.
And to this day, I have a complex about my stomach.
I never you'll probably noticed in costumes, I never ever,
ever ever show my stomach because that's a complex, that
(22:27):
it's a thing. But that's been put into my mind
since I was fifteen sixteen. I think I just was
turning sixteen because it was just before my sixteenth birthday.
Because I remember I had this outfit I was gonna
wear and I ended up buying a dress that would
cover my stomach because I was like, it's like little
things that they you know, kind of yeah, so and
those things take a long time. Even my teeth. It
(22:48):
was like my head because these two were Venias, these
two here, yeah, so I had like like bunny teeth,
like bunny teeth, and they were always like, you need
to get your teeth fixing too, and I did. I
got braces and then I took them off too early,
and then when I did X Factor, there's all these
comments about my teeth and I got Veneers straight away
just these two. So it's just so many things that
(23:10):
you that's the hard thing, is like you. But also
then you think I'm putting myself out there for that
because that's the job. But I wish it wouldn't have
happened so young.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
I want to take you back to when you were
in La Okay, because I know you love acting. I
menaged to find something out of the woodwork. Oh no,
it's your first acting gig. Is this your first one?
It's benefit Do you remember this one? I sure do.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
There I am.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Really good actress, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
This was my first role that I actually landed. I'd
been on a thousand auditions before this role. But oh
my god, that's poor Wesley from Vampire.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
He was in this movie. Oh my gosh, so this
movie I so I went. I went on this audition
and I had been on so many and none had
landed right like. I'd gotten actually close to nine O
two one, oh the Resurgence of Nino two, So I
was really excited about that. But then it didn't happen.
And then I went into this one and they were like,
call me back. Because I was so used to not
(24:09):
getting the part. I was like, I won't get it.
I won't get it yea. Anyway, this guy, the director
of this film, was so lovely and he was like yeah,
he's like I think like we're going to keep your
Australian accent. And I was like, because that's a really
good sign. When they changed something obviously for you to
play the role absolutely, and I was like, oh, okay,
maybe I will get this anyway. So he's like, come
(24:31):
in and audition. He goes, all right, your character is
a little bit slutty. I was like, oh, and she
wears a lot of makeup and she hasn't really found
herself yet. And I was like, oh god, okay, and
I think I was twenty two. Okay, yeah, I think
I'm twenty two in this And I was like, okay,
(24:53):
h I just turned twenty No, because I just lost
my deal, that's right. Okay, it was twenty one because
I I was doing this movie and then after that
was when we left when the deal thing happened. Okay, yeah, right,
just around the same few months. So yeah, so I
got this role. I was like, this is so cool.
And then they're like, you're going to the Bahamas to
shoot it, and I was like the Bajas. I was like,
(25:16):
I'll take it.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
So cool. So we got to spend three months in
the Bahamas shooting this film, which was really really cool.
And then Paul Wesley was the lead character in it,
and he was lead role in it, and he was
so so lovely and he obviously went on to do
Vampire Daries I think the next year, so it's really cool.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Well, going from that then to you playing Kylie in
the Inexcess biopic and Home and Away, I guess what
inspired you to make those decisions, make those choices as
that character in Home and Away.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Well, so obviously I'd played Kylie and that was amazing
and what an experience and just I mean, I'm such
a fan and that was just a great first proper
role for me to play and I loved it.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Did you have you hear from Kylie? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (26:01):
I spoke to her and she was so kind and
like she was like, you did a great job. And
I was like, okay, oh that's all I need, you know, like,
is the approval of the person, and now I'm good.
So that was amazing. Yeah, that was great. And then
so with Home and Away, they approached me and they
were like, you know, we'd like for you to be
part of the show, and I it's such an iconic
Australian TV show. There are so many incredible people that
(26:23):
have come from it. And even without that, it's just
like it's an Australian like iconic moment to be a
movement to be a part of. I've always always watched
it and seen it, and yeah, I was like, yeah,
I'll do it. I didn't even know the character yet.
I was like sure. And then they were like, well, okay,
but your character, we want you to play someone that
you aren't like. We want to have something completely different.
(26:45):
And I was like, oh god, okay. They're like, you're
a mother and I was like oh and I was
only twenty what was I twenty seven? It's okay, you're
a mother. You have two kids, but you lost your
kids because you kind of do some really bad stuff,
like you deal drugs and you yep me. I'm like,
oh my.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
God, how did they think that you fit the brief?
You did a great job. But it's like, oh, yes, Samantha
Jay the Pie Australian sweetheart has done a bad thing
in her life, is such a.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Clean I did not do drugs.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I was like, this is gonna be hard research.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
But yeah, so that and then like and I, like,
you know, worked in some places, some terrible places and
done some things, and so I was like, okay, yeah,
I'll take it on. I'll take it on. And it
was really interesting. I had to hold a gun because
I actually like, yeah, I pulled a gun on people,
like I did some crazy things in the show, crazy things.
But it was really fun because I was like, Wow,
(27:40):
I get to play this like kind of naughty girl
and I loved it. And I really honestly the character
because at the very so I kind of every week
would get my script. I didn't really know how I
was going to exit the show. So I was like,
am I going to die? Because I thought maybe I
would die because I was getting myself into so many
bad situations. I was like, they're gonna kill me off.
(28:01):
And then they didn't kill me off, but it was
kind of worse. I got Nick Westaway, who was one
of the famous like everyone loved him, one of the
boys in the in the show. They're like, you're gonna
send He's going to go to jail for your crime,
and I was like, you're kidding me. So then I
spent about a year of everyone hating me. I can't
(28:23):
because some people think it's real.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
People are devoted to that show. I did work experience
on that show, right, So I worked on that show
for a week, and oh my gosh, the fans.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Yeah, the fandom is crazy.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Like I think we went to Palm Beach and shot
a bit and all these fans they just know when
things are being shot. Where that.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Yeah, I understand I the hate. I remember I went
to maybe it was Telethon. It was either Telethon or
like Carol's. It was something that you know, a lot
of the personalities from Channel seven do together, and I
got People were like I cannot believe what you did,
but like you got our favorite character killed off and
(29:03):
I was like, I'm so sorry, Like that was in
the script I did to do that.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Really really crazy for like ages, I've got heaps of
I hate messages. It was really interesting.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
It was like, oh my gosh, do you want to
do acting again? Is that something you're doing?
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Oh, definitely. I want to be in a movie musical.
That has always been a dream of mine, like like
growing up, you know, Greece was the first one, obsession
beyond obsession with that a million times, seeing it a
million times. Sound of music Chicago, Like what was the
other one? Mull and Rouge, Like I want to be
(29:37):
in something like that, like a dream.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Amazing. Okay, I'm gonna put it out there. Ye people,
you know, i'd tell the people you get the two
people that I know. That's right, it's it's still people.
It's people. So let's go to now, Yes, what have
you learned in those twenty I mean, I'm assuming twenty years, right,
going through LA, going through leaving now, knowing that you've
(29:59):
left the label, through advice of management, going through X factor,
doing in excess Kylie home and away. People always have
the one thing that they've kind of learned. I was
listening to a podcast you did with Casey Barrow I
love Yeah, and you were saying that you don't have
a champion, you never kind of had it, So you're
(30:22):
really learning all these things on your own and kind
of you know, I mean, is there anything new that
you're learning at this point in your career where.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Yeah, I think that, like I think, you know, I
actually think that's the lesson is that you have to
always be open to learning because things always change. And
I've been doing this a really, really long time, and
there are things that definitely I know how to do,
like I work ethics a big one that I'm glad
I learned in the States because it was really intense.
(30:51):
But that's good because now I know when I'm on,
I'm on and I work, and I go and I
go and I go, and then probably make myself get sick,
you know, and I'm like, yes, you know, and then
I have to take some time off. But my work,
I think, I know is always good. I know I'll deliver.
But I think that something that changes is you have
to listen to people around you. You have to listen
(31:12):
to the to the youth, and you have to listen
to the people about what's cool now and what's you know.
I'm not saying to jump on every bandwagon, but you
do have to change with the times. And I think
that's something that's big that I've tried to kind of
listen to. And I always I'm very appreciative for social
media in the way that I can speak directly with
(31:34):
my followers and ask them what they like and what
they want to hear from me. I always have a
vision of what I want to do, but I allow,
I really allow in voices and go, Okay, they liked this,
maybe I'll like explore that a little bit more. Or
oh they like when I sing this way, Okay, great,
maybe I'll look into that. So I'm very open to
(31:56):
constructive criticism and to feedback. And I think it's really.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
So.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
There's that, and then I also think that having the
right people around you is probably the number one thing.
It's really important. And I basically have the same people
I've always had around me around me. You met my
friend Zach Yes, who has been there since the start,
literally the start of when the jive thing happened, when
(32:23):
like all of my big moments, when my mom passed away,
he was there. He moved to Perth. Basically, he lives
in la He is always whenever I crumble, he is there,
beyond there to just pick me up. You need those
people who know you at your lowest and also in
those darkest hours. You know, you need those people. And
(32:44):
I've got my family. My dad is my rock, my brothers,
their girlfriends, like my husband. You just have to have
a very close knit crew.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Yeah, I've said this at the beginning that you're such
a sweetheart, you have such a beautiful race personality, so angelic, humble,
thank you. Who do you think is responsible for your
personal makeup that makes you who you are?
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Definitely my dad and my mom, My mom and my dad.
I think that my mom and dad they're there. They constantly,
constantly are reminding us, my brothers and I to be
grateful for things as much as like and and my
mom always used to say, my mum was very spiritual,
(33:29):
and she's to always say, you know it is it's written.
Things are already as they're going to be right, and
there are no mistakes. Things happen for a reason. It's written.
So you're going to go through ups and downs, but
go through them, really go through them, and it's okay
not to be okay. So whenever I do go through
my low moments, and sometimes I it depends on the day.
(33:49):
Sometimes I read the comments and I see the bad
one and the bad ones like it's like it's bold
and italic and unlike, yeah, and some days I don't
and I just look at the good. It depends on
the day. Or you know, you can hear a comment
or you can have a you know, something happening in
your personal life that you let control you. And she
(34:09):
used to always be like, that's okay, No one's perfect,
no one's okay all the time. So I think the
being allowed to fall and being allowed to have those moments,
I think that's important. Otherwise you can become a fake person, absolutely,
because you're always putting on a front. Not that I
don't try and always be happy and because that's actually
(34:32):
who I am anyway, but if i'm if I'm not,
I will step back and I will sit back.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
You know.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
I don't like to bring people around me down, you know,
and my dad is possibly the kindest, bubbliest, happiest, most
real human you'll ever meet. So nothing's too hard for
my dad. And that lesson I think has been the
lesson that the thread throughout my life things too hard.
(35:01):
You can get through anything. Nothing's too hard. And so
if someone asked me to do something or you know,
like even I've done nearly ten missions now with the Salvos,
which I love. I love that work that I do,
and a lot of the time you know that they're
really emotionally grueling and draining, and you're meeting these people
(35:22):
and you're like, how can I you feel helpless? Because
you get what else can you do? And my Dad's
like always like nothing's too hard, like keep in contact
with them and why don't you do this? And why
don't they? So I just I love that lesson from
my dad.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
It's so touching considering what your family's gone through to
hear something.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Like that, Oh my gosh, yeah, because.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
I mean some people just really think it's impossible to
be able to go through in a grief and pain
and things like that. So it's very touching to hear that,
especially come from your dad. So wonderful. Well, look speaking
about loud and bold things that have you know, come
on social media, let's talk about ten years since sweet
talk exploded all over TikTok. I'm so crazy crazy, I've
(36:06):
got a few videos, yeah that I have to show up,
Like look how much love you are getting on your
socials people. And the funny thing is the thing I
like is that people are actually like saying, everyone's stream
Samantha Jade, isn't this wild?
Speaker 3 (36:20):
I mean, it's absolutely amazing to see something that you
did ten years ago being loved by a whole new audience.
Like it's amazing. That's the power of music.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Absolutely, it's like it's global success. At the moment, I
was counting the amount of videos that were made from
that sound of your song, and it's going up. I
think it's up to fourteen thousand now, is it. Yeah,
so fourteen thousand TikTok users have made a video from
your sound. It is so cool, and it ranges from
certain people around the world. I remember you saying that
Casey podcast that you are the thanks of kin, that
(36:55):
you would love some success out of the country.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
Absolutely, I think that's happening. Oh my god, on gross,
I mean, it's so crazy, right because I like TikTok
and during COVID, I like loved it, but I kind
of step back from it. I'm useless and I don't
do enough on TikTok. But anyway, my brother, my little brother,
he called me, and he like rarely calls me or
(37:18):
answerts my phone calls, so whenever he calls, I get
so excited or I think something's wrong, So like, what's
going on? And he's like, just song's going viral on TikTok,
and I was like, which one I was hoping? Obviously
it's peachy and he's like, no sweet talk, and I
was like, what that's ten years old. That's so long ago,
but also yay great and then I did look up
all the videos and I was like, this is so
cool because I do think it's one of those songs
(37:40):
that just kind of stands at test the time. It's
such a great pop song, absolutely, and I know we're
seeing a resurgence in pop, so I'm glad it's getting
the justice it deserves. It's a great song.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
You know, on Behalf of Me, the Gaze, the Aussie
pop fans, we're all so happy that you're getting your
flowers when it comes to your music. And I like
how a new generation is just becoming obsessed with you,
which goes to show that you are listening to the
youth and the way things are going. I love that.
That's what's the one thing you want the world to
(38:13):
know about, Samantha Jade?
Speaker 3 (38:14):
Oh what a question. M That is a huge question.
Probably that I really really really love what I do
and I always put my heart and soul into every project.
I really do so, and also that every time I
get great feedback and whenever I perform, and especially at
(38:40):
LGBTQI plus clubs. I just get this love back and
that keeps me going. It fuels the fire in me,
because sometimes that fire burns really low. It's a really
tough industry. It's really hard. So yeah, I think I
want them to know that I'm grateful for the support
because there are so many times I would have quit
(39:00):
if it weren't for the incredible support.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Yeah, brilliant Samantha Jade, Thank you so much for being
co pilot on the show. Be the longest chat I'd had,
so I appreciate it very much. And I think that
we're entering a brand new era of Samantha Jada. I
really do.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Oh my god, I'm lovely said that. I hope so.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Oh no, it will happen. It will happen. Thank you,
thank you so much, thank you. And then you have it,
Australia's Sweetheart, Samantha Jade. I mean, what a story. I mean,
a Perth girl going to La in an instant from
a video audition that someone just stumbled across, and then
just being thrown into the world of Hollywood at such
(39:42):
a young age. You know, listening to her, she must
have gone through so much to be able to maintain
that humility, maintain that gratitude and also have the resilience
to start again. And it wouldn't have been possible without
her upbringing, without her beautiful parents, just her to be
the most kind of soul that she is. It was
(40:05):
a really inspiring chat. Thank you so much for joining
me on my first podcast episode of The Jamain Plane.
Hopefully I did okay. Please feel free to send your feedback.
Follow the Germain Plan on Instagram and if you want
to listen to the radio show where we celebrate the music,
we're on every Friday night, seven pm on nov Throwbacks,
you can download the Nova Player app and listen to
(40:25):
it from there. My name is Jermaine. We're flying back
in time. Have a great weekend week whenever you're watching
this or listening to this, and I'll chat to you
next time.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
Flying back in time. This is the Domain Plane.
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