August 20, 2025 • 22 mins
This recap unpacks an episode of The Joe Rogan Experience with Sam Tripoli. Topics covered include alleged government agendas related to air travel and '15-minute cities', the impact of 'diversity, equity, and inclusion' (DEI) on meritocracy, and concerns about medical malpractice and the healthcare system. The discussion also touches upon historical revisionism, supposed secret technologies like anti-gravity crafts and time travel, and the influence of media and entertainment in shaping public perception and control through 'programming.' Finally, the conversation explores geopolitical conflicts, ancient mysteries, and future predictions including AI advancements and genetic modification.
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Welcome to the Joe Rogan recap. Today we're embarking on a Dee
dive into some truly thought Rovoking territory.
We're going to unpack a recent conversation from the Joe Rogan
Experience podcast featuring AM Tripoli.
It explored just a vast, sometimes dizzying array of
topics. I mean, everything from hidden
historical technologies and alleged societal control
(00:21):
mechanisms to, well, the very nature of human existence.
It's quite a lot. It really is, and our mission
today is to help you navigate these discussions without
feeling, you know, totally overwhelmed.
We'll try to cut through some ofthe noise, distill the most
compelling insights, and share surprising ideas that just might
challenge some of your fundamental assumptions about
how the world works. Basically a shortcut to getting
(00:42):
up to speed on these complex viewpoints.
Exactly. Get ready to have some
assumptions challenged. All right, let's dive in.
Our first major theme centers onthis idea of an engineered
reality, specifically how various aspects of our world
might be well designed to fosterconformity and exert control.
Yeah, the conversation kicked off with some interesting
(01:03):
theories about everyday life, particularly around travel.
The claim from Sam Tripoli is that there's a supposed Agenda
2050 actively working to end commercial flying.
Right. And the evidence pointed to
things like increased brawls at airports, constant flight
delays, or even reports of military planes interfering with
commercial air traffic. Things you might notice.
(01:25):
And the theory suggests these aren't random.
They're deliberate actions, partof a larger plan supposedly to
keep people localized in what are termed 15 Minute cities and
ultimately restrict free movement.
So the idea is make flying such a hassle that people just stay
put. That's the argument, yeah.
Constant travel disruptions makeair travel undesirable, pushing
people towards that hyper localized living.
(01:47):
The 15 minute city concept. It raises A fascinating
question, doesn't it? If society is being subtly
shifted, how would you even notice such a broad agenda?
And this idea of engineered conformity, it wasn't just about
travel. The discussion really
highlighted how major cities, especially places like Los
Angeles, are believed to actively foster conformity.
Think about the entertainment industry there, the culture of
(02:10):
auditioning means expressing anydissenting opinion can literally
cost you your job, your career. Like the one red light idea.
One wrong move and you're out. Exactly 1 red light and you're
not working. And this is framed as a
deliberate strategy. Funnel people into big cities
where their livelihoods depend on sticking to a certain
(02:30):
narrative. That observation about
conformity in places like LA, especially in entertainment,
it's quite compelling, isn't it?The idea is it creates this
powerful mechanism of control goes beyond just behavior, right
to thought and speech. Yeah, if you don't toe the line
politically or socially, you risk getting blacklisted.
And that kind of environment, ifit is engineered, would
(02:50):
naturally lead to a very self censored population, wouldn't
it? Where independent thought gets
suppressed by just, well, economic necessity.
OK, so from there the conversation shifted to DEI,
diversity, equity and inclusion initiatives, framing them as a
source of what was called manufactured chaos.
Now this is a pretty controversial theory.
It's. Very controversial.
The assertion is that DEI is deliberately putting incompetent
(03:13):
people into positions of power. Yeah, examples cited included an
LE Fire Chief making some questionable comments about Fire
Rescue and concerns about dropping physical standards for
jobs like firefighting demandingjobs.
And the core claim isn't just that it's poor policy, but that
it's done on purpose, specifically to mess things up,
(03:34):
generate complaints, cause more chaos across society.
That's a heavy accusation. Purposeful incompetence.
It is, and this theory, it ties into something broader.
What's described as a pressure from above, pressure from below
strategy framed as a Marxist tactic, supposedly.
OK, pressure from above and below to achieve what?
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Well, according to this view, the goal is to create widespread
anxiety, societal infighting, get people so scared and divided
that they demand more safety, more control, which could
eventually lead to martial law. That's the end point in this
theory. And they pointed to historical
examples. Yeah, things like the Black
Lives Matter movement, the January 6th Capitol incident,
the rise in Asian hate, these NoKings movements which are
(04:18):
portrayed as anti establishment groups trying to dismantle power
structures, right? And even the Supreme Court
potentially overturning gay marriage from this perspective,
all designed to sow chaos and division.
Wow, so all interconnected in this view.
According to the theory, yes. And it escalates.
Hope. So.
The claim is that billionaires are secretly funding these
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so-called radical groups specifically to create this
chaos and maintain control. OK, Funding radical groups?
Yeah. Any examples given?
No Kings was mentioned. Allegedly funded by the Walmart
era of wealth, whatever that means.
Exactly. And this also links into the
theory that illegal immigration is being used or encouraged as a
supply of cheap labor people employers don't have to give
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benefits to. So it's all presented as part of
this larger, deliberate, destable stabilization effort
aimed at consolidating power. It paints a very cynical
picture, doesn't it? Suggesting those at the top
would intentionally destabilize things for their own gain.
And that idea about immigration purely for exploitable labor?
(05:21):
It's a harsh economic take on a really complex issue.
Makes you question stated versusunstated motives.
OK, let's pivot now to what the discussion called political
deception highlight through several big events, right like
the Obama healthcare debate. The theory presented was that
Obama's trip to Germany right during that.
Critical debate. Was a deliberate set up.
(05:43):
The claim is it was meant to keep him from having to actively
defend his signature promise, make it easier for it to get
shot down. South intentionally undermining
his own initiative. That's quite a claim.
Yeah, suggests a highly calculated political maneuver.
If true, it makes you wonder howmuch of what looks like a
misstep could be choreographed. Then there was the Brett
Kavanaugh Supreme Court nomination trial.
(06:04):
Oh yeah, that was intense. The argument made was that the
intense focus on the sexual assault allegations was
essentially a charade. A charade to hide what?
To distract from his alleged deep state background.
Things like helping rate the Patriot Act, supposedly
believing the president is abovethe law.
And they mentioned the accuser'sbackground too, right?
(06:24):
Exactly. Alleged deep connections to the
the CIA were highlighted. All part of this suppose a
diversion tactic. So the idea is look here at the
scandal, not over there at the background.
That's the gist of it, encouraging you to look beyond
the surface headlines for hiddenmotivations.
And then the conversation went into some really dark territory
with the Epstein files. Yeah, that part was disturbing.
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Sam Tripoli claimed Pam Bondi, former Florida AG, made comments
about just 10s of thousands of videos of little kids connected
to Jeffrey Epstein. Right.
And the theory is that intelligence agencies are
deliberately withholding the full list the videos.
Why? For blackmail to control
powerful individuals, Compromise.
(07:07):
Yeah, there was even a conspiratorial nod to people
seen in Pfizer commercials as potentially being compromised.
And similar claims about intelligence agencies getting
the ditty tapes for blackmail purposes.
It's a deeply disturbing assertion, implying this vast
network of control through compromise information.
If true, it would mean some really influential people could
be operating under duress challenges.
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The whole idea of autonomy for powerful figures doesn't it?
Suggests a hidden dimension to global influence.
OK, one more thing in this section on engineered reality,
professional protesters ah. Yes, the idea that people are
paid to show up. Exactly.
Paid to protest or attend political rallies?
Yeah. Kamala Harris's arena shows were
cited as an example, allegedly manufactured to look like a
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grassroots movement using phone data tracking a stage display,
not genuine support. Yeah, that concept points to a
perceived manipulation of publicperception.
If rallies can be bought, it changes how we interpret public
sentiment, right? Suggests A curated reality,
projecting an image of support or dissent rather than something
organic. OK, let's shift gears now.
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Section 2. Questioning perception, focusing
on health media and other hiddentruths.
Right. Starting with what were called
deeply broken systems like healthcare.
Yeah, the tragic case of Ben Askren.
The former MMA fighter needed a double lung transplant.
Necrotic pneumonia. And his insurance denied
coverage. Apparently so forced him into a
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GoFundMe, and the theory suggests some companies, one
referred to as Luigi, are using AIAI.
To deny claims. Analytically deny claims without
human emotion. That's the assertion.
Wow, AI making life or death decisions based on algorithms.
That's a chilling thought for a lot of people.
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Raises huge ethical questions, especially if profit is the
motive. And then medical malpractice
asserted as a leading cause of death.
Yeah, some shocking personal stories were shared.
A grandmother dying after a routine bag change.
A patient having the wrong kidney removed.
It's. Yeah, a stark reminder that
errors happen even in trusted places with catastrophic
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results. That statistic, medical
malpractice, is a leading cause of death.
Sobering, isn't it? Makes you want to be more
critical, more informed about your own care.
Absolutely highlights the fallibility of systems, even
advanced ones. And the Pharmaceutical industry
came under heavy fire, too. Oh, definitely.
The claim was made that companies knowingly push harmful
drugs just for profit. And they use some strong
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language equating it to a modernform of child sacrifice.
Which is extreme, yeah, but it conveys the level of criticism.
And the example used was Kareem Abdul Jabbar.
Right the NBA legend civil rights leader doing Pfizer
commercials for Afib after reportedly pushing the Covic
vaccine. Which raises questions, in this
view, about Big Pharma's influence.
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And it connects to historical exploitation like implicitly
referencing Tuskegee. So this naturally LED into
challenging the official COVID-19 narrative.
Yeah, the assertion was basically that the public was
hoodwinked. Pointing to alleged
misrepresentation of vaccine efficacy claims.
Like 100% chance you won't get COVID or that it stopped
infection and transmission. Despite data later suggesting
(10:18):
otherwise, yeah. And Sam Tripoli controversially
called masks the Democrats Meji a hat.
Right. Framing it as a symbol of
political conformity during the pandemic.
That really highlights the deep divisions that emerged, didn't
it? OK, shifting to media now, a
theory emerged that movies, video games, they program us.
Program us how? To be desensitized to real life
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violence and death. The desensitization argument.
Yeah, personal anecdotes were shared.
Someone reporting no emotional reaction to seeing a fatal car
crash or smelling a dead body, suggesting constant exposure to
simulated violence. Dulls are natural human
responses, our empathy. It's a long standing critique,
isn't it, that media consumptionmight be altering our innate
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responses to real trauma? How does simulated violence
affect our perception of reality?
It's a big question the. Conversation also criticized a
trend of unrealistic female action heroes OK, like citing
wave models beating up huge guysin movies or Keira Knightley in
Pirates of the Caribbean, Right?Contrasting that with characters
like Scorny, Weaver and Alien called more believable, more
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meritocratic. Where her strength was just part
of her character, not the defining feature.
Exactly. Accepted as awesome, inherent,
not overtly defined by your gender, the critique argues.
Some modern portrayals feel forced, unrealistic.
Advocating for a focus on meritocracy and storytelling
rather than what's seen as box ticking.
And this idea of woke programming?
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It's not always obvious, apparently.
Oh, so the theory was that even acclaimed shows like Apple TV's
Hijack with Idris Elba subtly embed these narratives.
So you don't notice until you'redeep into the series.
That's the idea. A clever, almost subliminal way
of injecting messages into popular culture suggests A
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sophisticated form of social engineering through
entertainment. Makes you want to be more
discerning about the underlying messages, doesn't it?
Definitely. OK, now let's tackle one of the
biggest hidden truths discussed 9/11 anomalies.
Right, this always comes up in these kinds of discussions.
Like the passport mystery, how did hijackers passports survive
intact at the crash sites? World Trade Center of
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Pennsylvania. Despite the intense heat, the
destruction when other things didn't survive.
Exactly. It's a persistent question for
those who doubt the official story seems inconsistent.
And this leads into the really controversial plane versus
missile theory. Yeah, the hypothesis that what
hit the towers weren't passengerplanes at all.
But military missile planes or remote controlled drones?
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Right, drawing on claims from pilots about impossible speeds,
low altitudes. And linking it to historical
examples like Operation Northwoods.
That declassified plan from the 60s where the US military
considered staging false flag attacks using drones.
Exactly. Using that as a president to
suggest such deception as possible, it fundamentally
challenges the official account,suggesting something much more
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complex, more engineered. And other debated aspects came
up briefly too, right? Yeah.
The collapse of Building 7 theories about Direct Energy
weapons causing unexplained fires.
Even numerology or occult rituals linked to the date.
It just shows the breadth of thealternative theories out there.
Proponents construct this whole counter narrative looking for
patterns. OK, moving to our third section.
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Beyond the known ancient wisdom and hidden technology, this gets
really out there. Buckle up.
Starting way back pre Civil War,citing authors like Joseph P
Farrell, Walter Buesley. And their claims about advanced
airships. Yes, capable of speeds up to 200
mile power. Supposedly existing in the US as
early as the 1850s. Which completely upends the
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Wright Brothers narrative from 19-O3, doesn't it?
Totally. These things were supposedly
powered by an anti gravity fuel called ND gas involved German
scientists. And Abraham Lincoln supposedly
sought funding for them. That was mentioned, yeah, Yeah.
It forces you to consider if there's this hidden
technological past we don't knowabout and that.
Connects to UFOs and black projects.
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The theory that most UFO sightings are actually secret
U.S. Government craft or back
engineered alien tech? Right, and this ties into the
alleged Nazi bell craft, that flying saucer thing.
Which then connects to operationpaper clip.
That post WWI program where the US brought over Nazi engineers.
Wernher von Braun, Others. Supposedly involving Nixon,
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Rockefeller, Eisenhower, bringing them to places like
NASA in Huntsville. And the theory suggests it
wasn't just about rockets for space, but maybe about these
breakthrough propulsion systems covering up their pasts.
In the process it weaves together secret tech, aliens,
post war intrigue. And the secrecy around it all is
intense. People with Top Secret clearance
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compelled to stay silent about Area 51 or the alleged real site
S4. S4 the supposed underground base
for alien tech work. Right, and the severe
consequences for looking info just highlight how these secrets
are kept for decades. Makes you wonder what could be
hidden. Are places like Area 51 just
decoys? OK, now digging into ancient
mysteries and human horizons. This is fascinating stuff.
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The theory that the real reason for the Iraq War was to secure
an ancient Stargate, a portal. Or advanced tech and
Mesopotamian ruins like Nineveh,Babylon.
Yeah, citing US bases built nearthose sites, alleged CIA reports
of interference devices energetic beams under the sand.
That transforms the whole geopolitical narrative into
something, well, esoteric. Ancient Aliens, Advanced Civil
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Those CIA reports, if real, would be huge, but they remain
speculative. And this idea of hidden
knowledge isn't just in Iraq. No, the belief is that crucial
secrets, historical texts, text secrets like depictions of
ancient flying machines called Vimanas from Vedic texts.
Are hidden away in places like the Vatican Library or ancient
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Tibetan libraries. Exactly, suggesting much of our
true history and potential has been suppressed or lost.
Vimana's hint at ancient advanced flight questioning our
linear view of progress. Now this next 1 is really
interesting, the recent discoveries in Peru.
Of the tridactyl mummies. Yes, humanoid mummies with three
fingers, three toes, elongated skulls.
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Some apparently have internal fetuses.
And metallic implants and ancient art depicting similar
beings. That's what's claimed raises
huge questions, doesn't it? Undiscovered human types?
Aliens. Are they real or elaborate
fakes? Researchers are pushing for more
studies. If authentic, they'd rewrite
everything we think we know about human evolution or history
on Earth. It's a captivating anomaly.
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Then there's Bob Lazar's claims.The area As for whistleblower?
Yeah, controversial figure. He allegedly reported seeing a
thick file on religion there stating that entities view
humans as containers. Containers for souls energy,
implying a kind of soul farming scenario.
That's the implication, and it ties into the broader theory
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that humanity itself was genetically engineered.
By an advanced species linking to Nephilim, fallen angels from
ancient texts. Right.
The argument being that the rapid doubling of human brain
size isn't fully explained by evolution alone suggests
external intervention. That's deeply philosophical,
isn't it? Challenges our whole place in
the universe. Suggests our very being might
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serve some other purpose. The brain size jump is a
scientific puzzle and this offers a wild but thought
provoking explanation. And finally, in this section,
simulation theory meets missing 411.
OK, how do those connect? Missing 401 and one people
vanishing, sometimes reappearingin strange places off in
national parks. Right, David Paul, I'd's work.
It gets connected to a purporteddeal between Eisenhower power
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and aliens allegedly allowing abductions, but only in remote
forests. An Eisenhower alien deal?
Wow. And this leads to alleged alien
hybridization programs, claims of human alien hybrid kids, even
sexual encounters with female aliens.
OK, now we're deep in speculative territory.
Alien interaction, Abduction. Genetic manipulation.
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It's providing A dramatic extraterrestrial explanation for
the missing 411 Enigma, but the evidence is largely anecdotal.
Right, very much so relies heavily on witness testimony.
Pushes the boundaries of what weconsider possible though.
All right, let's transition to our last main section, the ever
unfolding present and future. OK.
Starting with global maneuvers. The idea that the AI race with
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China is just a smokescreen, a false narrative.
Why Smokescreen? Citing the paradox of the US
government apparently sending AIsuperconductors to China
recently. While publicly talking up
competition. Exactly paralleling it with
historical examples like the US sending aid to Russia during the
Cold War despite the arms race suggests public narratives don't
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always match actual state actions encourages skepticism.
Then the US withdraw from Afghanistan.
The controversial details. Yeah, that purported weird video
of the plane taking off painted windows, people clinging to the
outside. And all that military equipment
left behind? Blackhawks tanks paraded by the
Taliban. Presented as another case where
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the official story might not match the perceived reality,
implying a more complex, maybe even intentional outcome.
Do these withdrawals serve hidden purposes?
And the assertion that some conflicts have ulterior motives.
Like the Araf war allegedly being about seizing ancient
artifacts from museums. And Afghanistan being partly
about securing poppy fields, citing that Geraldo Rivera
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report about U.S. soldiers guarding heroin fields.
Yeah, suggests wars aren't always about democracy or
security, but maybe hidden economic or historical goals,
resources, power, artifacts. A cynical view, but one that
questions the stated reasons forconflict.
Shifting to societal changes in control, there was an
interesting observation. What was that?
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That the current level of societal comfort, even for
disadvantaged groups. The phrase used was fat homeless
people with iPhones actually prevents widespread revolution.
So basic needs being met, even minimally, keeps people
complacent, A subtle form of control.
That's the implication. A baseline of comfort dampens
revolutionary spirit, raises questions about convenience and
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societal agency. Interesting.
And then the Great Wall of Chinadetail.
Oh yeah, that was peculiar. The architectural feature arrow
slits facing inward. Inward, suggesting its purpose
was to keep people in, not invaders out.
That's the theory flipping a historical landmark on his head.
Was it about internal control, not external defense?
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Encourages critical examination of accepted history.
Really makes you look twice at things you thought you knew.
Now looking to the future of humanity.
Transhumanism. Extending life indefinitely.
Genetically modifying humans. Yeah, creating super smart kids
or making everyone look like Thor.
Exploring these accelerating technologies.
Which brings up huge ethical questions, right?
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Who controls this tech? And the potential societal
impact A class divide between regular meat apes and
genetically modified geniuses. A potentially bifurcated future
questions about equity access. It's heavy stuff.
And finally, the conversation wrapped up with a prophetic
claim about current events. Connecting to Gaza.
Yes, asserting that Europe will regulate the conflict in Gaza.
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And fitting this into a larger biblical prophecy.
About a war between pagans identified as modern Germany and
lost tribes identified as England, the US and Israel.
So, connecting current geopolitics to a specific
predetermined ancient script, a deterministic view of world
events unfolding. Wow OK, you have just navigated
(21:47):
a truly wild landscape of theories.
I mean from engineered societies, hidden history to the
very fabric of reality. It's a lot.
Pre civil war airships, alien abductions, The future of
genetic engineering. Definitely a lot to take it and
remember. These are all ideas was
presented the source material weexamined today from that JRE
conversation. Indeed, and these various
(22:08):
perspectives suggest well that the world might be far stranger,
maybe more controlled, than we commonly perceive.
Many theories imply that what weaccept as reality could be
influenced by forces far beyond our immediate awareness.
Lots to think about. So maybe here's a provocative
thought for you to explore on your own.
How much of what you accept as reality might be influenced not
(22:29):
just by external forces or the media narratives we consume, but
by your own conditioning, the programming maybe that you
receive from childhood onwards? Yeah, what hidden files exist
within our own understanding, just waiting to be unpacked?
We definitely encourage you to keep asking questions, explore
beyond the obvious surface level, staying curious about how
(22:49):
our world works and the narratives we're fed.
Your own deep dive into these concepts can be the most
rewarding part. Keep exploring.
Until next time, keep diving deep.
Welcome to the Joe Rogan recap. Today we're embarking on a Dee
dive into some truly thought Rovoking territory.
We're going to unpack a recent conversation from the Joe Rogan
Experience podcast featuring AM Tripoli.
It explored just a vast, sometimes dizzying array of
topics. I mean, everything from hidden
historical technologies and alleged societal control
(00:21):
mechanisms to, well, the very nature of human existence.
It's quite a lot. It really is, and our mission
today is to help you navigate these discussions without
feeling, you know, totally overwhelmed.
We'll try to cut through some ofthe noise, distill the most
compelling insights, and share surprising ideas that just might
challenge some of your fundamental assumptions about
how the world works. Basically a shortcut to getting
(00:42):
up to speed on these complex viewpoints.
Exactly. Get ready to have some
assumptions challenged. All right, let's dive in.
Our first major theme centers onthis idea of an engineered
reality, specifically how various aspects of our world
might be well designed to fosterconformity and exert control.
Yeah, the conversation kicked off with some interesting
(01:03):
theories about everyday life, particularly around travel.
The claim from Sam Tripoli is that there's a supposed Agenda
2050 actively working to end commercial flying.
Right. And the evidence pointed to
things like increased brawls at airports, constant flight
delays, or even reports of military planes interfering with
commercial air traffic. Things you might notice.
(01:25):
And the theory suggests these aren't random.
They're deliberate actions, partof a larger plan supposedly to
keep people localized in what are termed 15 Minute cities and
ultimately restrict free movement.
So the idea is make flying such a hassle that people just stay
put. That's the argument, yeah.
Constant travel disruptions makeair travel undesirable, pushing
people towards that hyper localized living.
(01:47):
The 15 minute city concept. It raises A fascinating
question, doesn't it? If society is being subtly
shifted, how would you even notice such a broad agenda?
And this idea of engineered conformity, it wasn't just about
travel. The discussion really
highlighted how major cities, especially places like Los
Angeles, are believed to actively foster conformity.
Think about the entertainment industry there, the culture of
(02:10):
auditioning means expressing anydissenting opinion can literally
cost you your job, your career. Like the one red light idea.
One wrong move and you're out. Exactly 1 red light and you're
not working. And this is framed as a
deliberate strategy. Funnel people into big cities
where their livelihoods depend on sticking to a certain
(02:30):
narrative. That observation about
conformity in places like LA, especially in entertainment,
it's quite compelling, isn't it?The idea is it creates this
powerful mechanism of control goes beyond just behavior, right
to thought and speech. Yeah, if you don't toe the line
politically or socially, you risk getting blacklisted.
And that kind of environment, ifit is engineered, would
(02:50):
naturally lead to a very self censored population, wouldn't
it? Where independent thought gets
suppressed by just, well, economic necessity.
OK, so from there the conversation shifted to DEI,
diversity, equity and inclusion initiatives, framing them as a
source of what was called manufactured chaos.
Now this is a pretty controversial theory.
It's. Very controversial.
The assertion is that DEI is deliberately putting incompetent
(03:13):
people into positions of power. Yeah, examples cited included an
LE Fire Chief making some questionable comments about Fire
Rescue and concerns about dropping physical standards for
jobs like firefighting demandingjobs.
And the core claim isn't just that it's poor policy, but that
it's done on purpose, specifically to mess things up,
(03:34):
generate complaints, cause more chaos across society.
That's a heavy accusation. Purposeful incompetence.
It is, and this theory, it ties into something broader.
What's described as a pressure from above, pressure from below
strategy framed as a Marxist tactic, supposedly.
OK, pressure from above and below to achieve what?
(03:55):
Well, according to this view, the goal is to create widespread
anxiety, societal infighting, get people so scared and divided
that they demand more safety, more control, which could
eventually lead to martial law. That's the end point in this
theory. And they pointed to historical
examples. Yeah, things like the Black
Lives Matter movement, the January 6th Capitol incident,
the rise in Asian hate, these NoKings movements which are
(04:18):
portrayed as anti establishment groups trying to dismantle power
structures, right? And even the Supreme Court
potentially overturning gay marriage from this perspective,
all designed to sow chaos and division.
Wow, so all interconnected in this view.
According to the theory, yes. And it escalates.
Hope. So.
The claim is that billionaires are secretly funding these
(04:39):
so-called radical groups specifically to create this
chaos and maintain control. OK, Funding radical groups?
Yeah. Any examples given?
No Kings was mentioned. Allegedly funded by the Walmart
era of wealth, whatever that means.
Exactly. And this also links into the
theory that illegal immigration is being used or encouraged as a
supply of cheap labor people employers don't have to give
(05:00):
benefits to. So it's all presented as part of
this larger, deliberate, destable stabilization effort
aimed at consolidating power. It paints a very cynical
picture, doesn't it? Suggesting those at the top
would intentionally destabilize things for their own gain.
And that idea about immigration purely for exploitable labor?
(05:21):
It's a harsh economic take on a really complex issue.
Makes you question stated versusunstated motives.
OK, let's pivot now to what the discussion called political
deception highlight through several big events, right like
the Obama healthcare debate. The theory presented was that
Obama's trip to Germany right during that.
Critical debate. Was a deliberate set up.
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The claim is it was meant to keep him from having to actively
defend his signature promise, make it easier for it to get
shot down. South intentionally undermining
his own initiative. That's quite a claim.
Yeah, suggests a highly calculated political maneuver.
If true, it makes you wonder howmuch of what looks like a
misstep could be choreographed. Then there was the Brett
Kavanaugh Supreme Court nomination trial.
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Oh yeah, that was intense. The argument made was that the
intense focus on the sexual assault allegations was
essentially a charade. A charade to hide what?
To distract from his alleged deep state background.
Things like helping rate the Patriot Act, supposedly
believing the president is abovethe law.
And they mentioned the accuser'sbackground too, right?
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Exactly. Alleged deep connections to the
the CIA were highlighted. All part of this suppose a
diversion tactic. So the idea is look here at the
scandal, not over there at the background.
That's the gist of it, encouraging you to look beyond
the surface headlines for hiddenmotivations.
And then the conversation went into some really dark territory
with the Epstein files. Yeah, that part was disturbing.
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Sam Tripoli claimed Pam Bondi, former Florida AG, made comments
about just 10s of thousands of videos of little kids connected
to Jeffrey Epstein. Right.
And the theory is that intelligence agencies are
deliberately withholding the full list the videos.
Why? For blackmail to control
powerful individuals, Compromise.
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Yeah, there was even a conspiratorial nod to people
seen in Pfizer commercials as potentially being compromised.
And similar claims about intelligence agencies getting
the ditty tapes for blackmail purposes.
It's a deeply disturbing assertion, implying this vast
network of control through compromise information.
If true, it would mean some really influential people could
be operating under duress challenges.
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The whole idea of autonomy for powerful figures doesn't it?
Suggests a hidden dimension to global influence.
OK, one more thing in this section on engineered reality,
professional protesters ah. Yes, the idea that people are
paid to show up. Exactly.
Paid to protest or attend political rallies?
Yeah. Kamala Harris's arena shows were
cited as an example, allegedly manufactured to look like a
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grassroots movement using phone data tracking a stage display,
not genuine support. Yeah, that concept points to a
perceived manipulation of publicperception.
If rallies can be bought, it changes how we interpret public
sentiment, right? Suggests A curated reality,
projecting an image of support or dissent rather than something
organic. OK, let's shift gears now.
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Section 2. Questioning perception, focusing
on health media and other hiddentruths.
Right. Starting with what were called
deeply broken systems like healthcare.
Yeah, the tragic case of Ben Askren.
The former MMA fighter needed a double lung transplant.
Necrotic pneumonia. And his insurance denied
coverage. Apparently so forced him into a
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GoFundMe, and the theory suggests some companies, one
referred to as Luigi, are using AIAI.
To deny claims. Analytically deny claims without
human emotion. That's the assertion.
Wow, AI making life or death decisions based on algorithms.
That's a chilling thought for a lot of people.
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Raises huge ethical questions, especially if profit is the
motive. And then medical malpractice
asserted as a leading cause of death.
Yeah, some shocking personal stories were shared.
A grandmother dying after a routine bag change.
A patient having the wrong kidney removed.
It's. Yeah, a stark reminder that
errors happen even in trusted places with catastrophic
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results. That statistic, medical
malpractice, is a leading cause of death.
Sobering, isn't it? Makes you want to be more
critical, more informed about your own care.
Absolutely highlights the fallibility of systems, even
advanced ones. And the Pharmaceutical industry
came under heavy fire, too. Oh, definitely.
The claim was made that companies knowingly push harmful
drugs just for profit. And they use some strong
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language equating it to a modernform of child sacrifice.
Which is extreme, yeah, but it conveys the level of criticism.
And the example used was Kareem Abdul Jabbar.
Right the NBA legend civil rights leader doing Pfizer
commercials for Afib after reportedly pushing the Covic
vaccine. Which raises questions, in this
view, about Big Pharma's influence.
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And it connects to historical exploitation like implicitly
referencing Tuskegee. So this naturally LED into
challenging the official COVID-19 narrative.
Yeah, the assertion was basically that the public was
hoodwinked. Pointing to alleged
misrepresentation of vaccine efficacy claims.
Like 100% chance you won't get COVID or that it stopped
infection and transmission. Despite data later suggesting
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otherwise, yeah. And Sam Tripoli controversially
called masks the Democrats Meji a hat.
Right. Framing it as a symbol of
political conformity during the pandemic.
That really highlights the deep divisions that emerged, didn't
it? OK, shifting to media now, a
theory emerged that movies, video games, they program us.
Program us how? To be desensitized to real life
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violence and death. The desensitization argument.
Yeah, personal anecdotes were shared.
Someone reporting no emotional reaction to seeing a fatal car
crash or smelling a dead body, suggesting constant exposure to
simulated violence. Dulls are natural human
responses, our empathy. It's a long standing critique,
isn't it, that media consumptionmight be altering our innate
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responses to real trauma? How does simulated violence
affect our perception of reality?
It's a big question the. Conversation also criticized a
trend of unrealistic female action heroes OK, like citing
wave models beating up huge guysin movies or Keira Knightley in
Pirates of the Caribbean, Right?Contrasting that with characters
like Scorny, Weaver and Alien called more believable, more
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meritocratic. Where her strength was just part
of her character, not the defining feature.
Exactly. Accepted as awesome, inherent,
not overtly defined by your gender, the critique argues.
Some modern portrayals feel forced, unrealistic.
Advocating for a focus on meritocracy and storytelling
rather than what's seen as box ticking.
And this idea of woke programming?
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It's not always obvious, apparently.
Oh, so the theory was that even acclaimed shows like Apple TV's
Hijack with Idris Elba subtly embed these narratives.
So you don't notice until you'redeep into the series.
That's the idea. A clever, almost subliminal way
of injecting messages into popular culture suggests A
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sophisticated form of social engineering through
entertainment. Makes you want to be more
discerning about the underlying messages, doesn't it?
Definitely. OK, now let's tackle one of the
biggest hidden truths discussed 9/11 anomalies.
Right, this always comes up in these kinds of discussions.
Like the passport mystery, how did hijackers passports survive
intact at the crash sites? World Trade Center of
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Pennsylvania. Despite the intense heat, the
destruction when other things didn't survive.
Exactly. It's a persistent question for
those who doubt the official story seems inconsistent.
And this leads into the really controversial plane versus
missile theory. Yeah, the hypothesis that what
hit the towers weren't passengerplanes at all.
But military missile planes or remote controlled drones?
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Right, drawing on claims from pilots about impossible speeds,
low altitudes. And linking it to historical
examples like Operation Northwoods.
That declassified plan from the 60s where the US military
considered staging false flag attacks using drones.
Exactly. Using that as a president to
suggest such deception as possible, it fundamentally
challenges the official account,suggesting something much more
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complex, more engineered. And other debated aspects came
up briefly too, right? Yeah.
The collapse of Building 7 theories about Direct Energy
weapons causing unexplained fires.
Even numerology or occult rituals linked to the date.
It just shows the breadth of thealternative theories out there.
Proponents construct this whole counter narrative looking for
patterns. OK, moving to our third section.
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Beyond the known ancient wisdom and hidden technology, this gets
really out there. Buckle up.
Starting way back pre Civil War,citing authors like Joseph P
Farrell, Walter Buesley. And their claims about advanced
airships. Yes, capable of speeds up to 200
mile power. Supposedly existing in the US as
early as the 1850s. Which completely upends the
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Wright Brothers narrative from 19-O3, doesn't it?
Totally. These things were supposedly
powered by an anti gravity fuel called ND gas involved German
scientists. And Abraham Lincoln supposedly
sought funding for them. That was mentioned, yeah, Yeah.
It forces you to consider if there's this hidden
technological past we don't knowabout and that.
Connects to UFOs and black projects.
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The theory that most UFO sightings are actually secret
U.S. Government craft or back
engineered alien tech? Right, and this ties into the
alleged Nazi bell craft, that flying saucer thing.
Which then connects to operationpaper clip.
That post WWI program where the US brought over Nazi engineers.
Wernher von Braun, Others. Supposedly involving Nixon,
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Rockefeller, Eisenhower, bringing them to places like
NASA in Huntsville. And the theory suggests it
wasn't just about rockets for space, but maybe about these
breakthrough propulsion systems covering up their pasts.
In the process it weaves together secret tech, aliens,
post war intrigue. And the secrecy around it all is
intense. People with Top Secret clearance
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compelled to stay silent about Area 51 or the alleged real site
S4. S4 the supposed underground base
for alien tech work. Right, and the severe
consequences for looking info just highlight how these secrets
are kept for decades. Makes you wonder what could be
hidden. Are places like Area 51 just
decoys? OK, now digging into ancient
mysteries and human horizons. This is fascinating stuff.
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The theory that the real reason for the Iraq War was to secure
an ancient Stargate, a portal. Or advanced tech and
Mesopotamian ruins like Nineveh,Babylon.
Yeah, citing US bases built nearthose sites, alleged CIA reports
of interference devices energetic beams under the sand.
That transforms the whole geopolitical narrative into
something, well, esoteric. Ancient Aliens, Advanced Civil
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Those CIA reports, if real, would be huge, but they remain
speculative. And this idea of hidden
knowledge isn't just in Iraq. No, the belief is that crucial
secrets, historical texts, text secrets like depictions of
ancient flying machines called Vimanas from Vedic texts.
Are hidden away in places like the Vatican Library or ancient
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Tibetan libraries. Exactly, suggesting much of our
true history and potential has been suppressed or lost.
Vimana's hint at ancient advanced flight questioning our
linear view of progress. Now this next 1 is really
interesting, the recent discoveries in Peru.
Of the tridactyl mummies. Yes, humanoid mummies with three
fingers, three toes, elongated skulls.
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Some apparently have internal fetuses.
And metallic implants and ancient art depicting similar
beings. That's what's claimed raises
huge questions, doesn't it? Undiscovered human types?
Aliens. Are they real or elaborate
fakes? Researchers are pushing for more
studies. If authentic, they'd rewrite
everything we think we know about human evolution or history
on Earth. It's a captivating anomaly.
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Then there's Bob Lazar's claims.The area As for whistleblower?
Yeah, controversial figure. He allegedly reported seeing a
thick file on religion there stating that entities view
humans as containers. Containers for souls energy,
implying a kind of soul farming scenario.
That's the implication, and it ties into the broader theory
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that humanity itself was genetically engineered.
By an advanced species linking to Nephilim, fallen angels from
ancient texts. Right.
The argument being that the rapid doubling of human brain
size isn't fully explained by evolution alone suggests
external intervention. That's deeply philosophical,
isn't it? Challenges our whole place in
the universe. Suggests our very being might
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serve some other purpose. The brain size jump is a
scientific puzzle and this offers a wild but thought
provoking explanation. And finally, in this section,
simulation theory meets missing 411.
OK, how do those connect? Missing 401 and one people
vanishing, sometimes reappearingin strange places off in
national parks. Right, David Paul, I'd's work.
It gets connected to a purporteddeal between Eisenhower power
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and aliens allegedly allowing abductions, but only in remote
forests. An Eisenhower alien deal?
Wow. And this leads to alleged alien
hybridization programs, claims of human alien hybrid kids, even
sexual encounters with female aliens.
OK, now we're deep in speculative territory.
Alien interaction, Abduction. Genetic manipulation.
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It's providing A dramatic extraterrestrial explanation for
the missing 411 Enigma, but the evidence is largely anecdotal.
Right, very much so relies heavily on witness testimony.
Pushes the boundaries of what weconsider possible though.
All right, let's transition to our last main section, the ever
unfolding present and future. OK.
Starting with global maneuvers. The idea that the AI race with
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China is just a smokescreen, a false narrative.
Why Smokescreen? Citing the paradox of the US
government apparently sending AIsuperconductors to China
recently. While publicly talking up
competition. Exactly paralleling it with
historical examples like the US sending aid to Russia during the
Cold War despite the arms race suggests public narratives don't
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always match actual state actions encourages skepticism.
Then the US withdraw from Afghanistan.
The controversial details. Yeah, that purported weird video
of the plane taking off painted windows, people clinging to the
outside. And all that military equipment
left behind? Blackhawks tanks paraded by the
Taliban. Presented as another case where
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the official story might not match the perceived reality,
implying a more complex, maybe even intentional outcome.
Do these withdrawals serve hidden purposes?
And the assertion that some conflicts have ulterior motives.
Like the Araf war allegedly being about seizing ancient
artifacts from museums. And Afghanistan being partly
about securing poppy fields, citing that Geraldo Rivera
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report about U.S. soldiers guarding heroin fields.
Yeah, suggests wars aren't always about democracy or
security, but maybe hidden economic or historical goals,
resources, power, artifacts. A cynical view, but one that
questions the stated reasons forconflict.
Shifting to societal changes in control, there was an
interesting observation. What was that?
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That the current level of societal comfort, even for
disadvantaged groups. The phrase used was fat homeless
people with iPhones actually prevents widespread revolution.
So basic needs being met, even minimally, keeps people
complacent, A subtle form of control.
That's the implication. A baseline of comfort dampens
revolutionary spirit, raises questions about convenience and
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societal agency. Interesting.
And then the Great Wall of Chinadetail.
Oh yeah, that was peculiar. The architectural feature arrow
slits facing inward. Inward, suggesting its purpose
was to keep people in, not invaders out.
That's the theory flipping a historical landmark on his head.
Was it about internal control, not external defense?
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Encourages critical examination of accepted history.
Really makes you look twice at things you thought you knew.
Now looking to the future of humanity.
Transhumanism. Extending life indefinitely.
Genetically modifying humans. Yeah, creating super smart kids
or making everyone look like Thor.
Exploring these accelerating technologies.
Which brings up huge ethical questions, right?
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Who controls this tech? And the potential societal
impact A class divide between regular meat apes and
genetically modified geniuses. A potentially bifurcated future
questions about equity access. It's heavy stuff.
And finally, the conversation wrapped up with a prophetic
claim about current events. Connecting to Gaza.
Yes, asserting that Europe will regulate the conflict in Gaza.
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And fitting this into a larger biblical prophecy.
About a war between pagans identified as modern Germany and
lost tribes identified as England, the US and Israel.
So, connecting current geopolitics to a specific
predetermined ancient script, a deterministic view of world
events unfolding. Wow OK, you have just navigated
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a truly wild landscape of theories.
I mean from engineered societies, hidden history to the
very fabric of reality. It's a lot.
Pre civil war airships, alien abductions, The future of
genetic engineering. Definitely a lot to take it and
remember. These are all ideas was
presented the source material weexamined today from that JRE
conversation. Indeed, and these various
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perspectives suggest well that the world might be far stranger,
maybe more controlled, than we commonly perceive.
Many theories imply that what weaccept as reality could be
influenced by forces far beyond our immediate awareness.
Lots to think about. So maybe here's a provocative
thought for you to explore on your own.
How much of what you accept as reality might be influenced not
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just by external forces or the media narratives we consume, but
by your own conditioning, the programming maybe that you
receive from childhood onwards? Yeah, what hidden files exist
within our own understanding, just waiting to be unpacked?
We definitely encourage you to keep asking questions, explore
beyond the obvious surface level, staying curious about how
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our world works and the narratives we're fed.
Your own deep dive into these concepts can be the most
rewarding part. Keep exploring.
Until next time, keep diving deep.
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