The Church Needs Artists w/Zac Gageler - KC Pod #006

In this episode of the Kingdom Creatives Podcast, Sam sits down with Zac Gageler to explore the intersection of creativity, faith, and leadership. From Zac’s journey of faith as a teenager to his bold decision to plant a church called Neighborhood, this conversation dives deep into what it means to lead with humility, foster creativity, and build platforms for others. Highlights Include: Why the church needs to steward creatives better. The concept of "third spaces" and their role in spiritual growth. The prophetic role of artists and innovators in the modern church. Zac’s emotional encounter with God that transformed his faith. How to combat fear of failure and find validation in God. Zac also shares about his upcoming move to London, where he and his wife Claire will prepare to launch the first HTB Network church in Australia. This is a conversation packed with wisdom, inspiration, and practical insights for creatives, pastors, and anyone passionate about the future of the church. 00:00 - Intro 01:00 - Who are you, and where are you from? 04:00 - Had you given your life to God at 15? 07:00 - Tell me about your encounter with God. 11:00 - What is it about 12-13 that makes people open to God? 14:00 - Were you creative as a kid? 16:00 - What did you want to do with a jazz degree? 18:00 - What was your primary instrument during your jazz training? 29:00 - Do you struggle with seeking validation? 37:00 - How do you know now is the right time to plant a church? 43:00 - What’s the plan with moving to London for the next few months? 50:00 - What’s Renaissance Conference about? 56:00 - How quickly does a pastor ask you to do something when you join a new church? 1:00:00 - How can church leaders and pastors steward creatives better? 🌟 Don’t forget to like, comment, and subscribe for more inspiring conversations with Kingdom Creatives. 🌟 👉 Follow us on Instagram: @kingdomcreatives_au #CreativityAndFaith #KingdomCreativesPodcast #ChurchPlanting