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Authorized and prohibited transmissions

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Couple of two or three years, I converted seven hundred
watt power supply out of a PC to a bent supply,
and he gave me five vault output and twelve volt output,
and I put the meters in there and the banana
plug binding post the whole nine yards and it worked.

(00:23):
But I'm surprise it will it did. I didn't do
everything I wanted it to do. Last month on amateurlogic,
I talked about converting a PC power supply to a
bent supply, and there it is. It works great if
all you need is five volts and twelve volts. What

(00:43):
if you need something in between or something a little
more than twelve volts. I talked about adding a buck
boost converter to it, but there's just not room enough
in this case to hold one. So this month I'm
going to do something about it. I did some searching
online and decided my option for this project the zk
IS five kx DC DC book Boost converter. Now there's

(01:08):
a variety of these out there that look identical, they're
not all the same. Now, this particular one I paid
a little more for. It was eighteen ninety nine at
the link for Amazon shown here. This one will convert
from point six volts all the way up to thirty
six volts. There's also a ZK four KX model that

(01:31):
looks exactly like this one. However, it only goes to
thirty volts and it won't supply as much current. The
one I chose here will operate at five amps maximum current,
and it has a fan on the rear on the
heat sink. A number of the other cheaper models I
saw would not carry up much current, were only thirty

(01:53):
volts and did not have the fan on the heat sink. So,
being that I had access to fifty am to twelve
vaults here, I thought thirty six vaults that would be good.
Five apps. That's about the most I could find in
this style of buck boost converter. So I chose this
model from the Jeffanese store on Amazon. In my search

(02:16):
for manual, the closest I could come up with was
this one right here from Parts Express for the VK
four KX series. This one only goes to thirty volts,
does now have the fan on the heat sink. It
supplies a little less maximum current, but the operating instructions

(02:36):
are the same. You can find it right here at
partstash express dot Com at the link at the bottom
of your screen. I found me a little electrical box
and I've already done the cutting on it here using
a drimmal tool. Had a faceplate for it that I
cut a rectangle where I can mount the buck Boost converter.

(02:58):
This is my little plastic box. I think I must
have gotten this one at home depot, or it could
have been Lows. It was one of the two. I
cut a hole out the bottom because this has got
a sand on it and the heat sink, so it's
going to generate a little heat. And I wanted to
exhaust out the rear here and hopefully it'll draw in

(03:20):
enough fresh air that it won't run too hot. On
the side here, I had another set of these five
way binding posts, so I mounted that on there and
some wire from that PC power supply. Put a couple
of banana plugs on it. That's going to be my
DC input to the buck Boost converter here, and I'll

(03:43):
just plug it into the power suply and to one
of the twelve vote outlets there. This one's limited to
ten amps because that's all that meter will show. But
if I needed more, I could go on the fifty
amp side there, so twelve voltes DCN From here I
can get from about zero point six to thirty six

(04:04):
volts out at five amps. The trick is, although this
is only twelve volts, it's going to be supplying it.
It's using a buck boost converter in there that operates
like a switching power supply at I believe one hundred
and fifty killer herds and creates its own DC signal

(04:24):
at a higher voltage. It'll convert that twelve volts all
the way up to thirty six. But it's got to
have enough current to do that, otherwise it won't be
able to make it. This supply should have plenty for that.
There's a couple of sets of terminals. There's a voltage
in which I've connected here, the voltage out which is

(04:48):
going to the binding post on the side, and that's
all there is to connect. Good tight fit there, and
on the rear the fan is right here at the edge,
so I think that's going to work out fine. The
wires are not protruding. I might stick a tie wrap

(05:09):
on there just to hold it down tight. It took
a little while to do all the whittling on this box,
but use them a drimmal tool with the cutoff Wheell.
It went fairly easy, and I had some of these
old stress reliefs I had gotten from somewhere, so I
just used that. The covering here on the wire came
out of that. This power supply right here, So we're

(05:34):
ready to go. Now. All we got to do is
plug in our negative and positive. I'm going to plug
it into the tin APP side here since I don't
plan on exceeding tin apps. There comes right up and
you can see I had left it at twenty four
vaults earlier. It's not drawing any current, so it's showing

(05:56):
zero amps.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Now.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
To adjust the voltage, I'll hit the UI button here
and it flashes. I can turn the endcoder set the
voltage I want. But if I want to go a
little faster, I can press in on the endcoder there
and now I can jump in bigger steps to get
the voltage on down. Lower. Looks like point six volts

(06:22):
like they said in the instructions is going to be it.
That's fine. See how high it'll go thirty six and
it's set here for a maximum of five amps before
the protection circuit will kick in on it. This is
one of my favorite old radio shack meters, and it

(06:43):
is accurate. It measures real close to my fluke sick
A cup of leads there on the output, twenty four
volts on the nose, twenty four volts on the nose. Here,
strup it down, seventeen volts, seventeen there, five vaults, five

(07:06):
volts there, step the range down. Actually, well, yeah, five vaults.
So this is pretty accurate. Now, there is a good
point about this. Through the combination of setting the buttons
there and the instruction sheet that I found, you can
actually go in and calibrate this if it is off

(07:29):
a little bit. But this one arrive like this, I
haven't done that. Now what happens if we put a
load on this. I'm going to disconnect my meter because
we're thinking, yeah, the voltage we're getting here is correct.
This is an eight on twenty wat non inductive resistor.
It's actually used as a load for testing audio amplifiers

(07:53):
up to twenty watts, so it can heat up pretty quick.
Take a set of leads here, connect to that. I
don't want this to melt my pad, so I'm gonna
set it right up there over that fan. We're on

(08:14):
five vaults. Let's step it on up a little bit.
That's uh well, let's go to ten vaults, so twelve
point one vaults there on the input. Ten vaults here,

(08:37):
I'm gonna plug in the load. Let's see what happens. Well,
that immediately drops a little bit eleven point eight not
too much, drawn by one point three two amps there.
Looking here, we're still on exactly ten vaults and one

(08:59):
point two oh seven apps. This thing is eighty eight
percent efficient, so you can see one point three apps
current one point two out. That's pretty good. Let's go
to twenty four volts. I'm not gonna want to hold
it there too long because that resistor is gonna get hot.

(09:21):
But let's see what happens as far as where the
voltage on the power supply down here drops as opposed
to what we've got coming out of the boost regulator here. Okay,
twenty four volts, we're drawing seven point six three from

(09:41):
the supply. At twenty four volts, we're supplying two point nine,
so about three amps there, and it's staying right on
twenty four volts, although the supply voltage dropped this thing
is regulating it exactly where we wanted it, so no
complaints there. There are a ton of options that you

(10:04):
can set with the two switches on here. You can
set the output voltage. You can set a current limit
so it's a constant current will not exceed that limit.
You've got low voltage protection, maximum voltage protection, over current protection,
overpower protection, ultra capacity protection. It'll show you the ampier

(10:30):
hours on here. If you want to use this for
charging a battery, you get all kinds of information out
of it. You can look at the wattage. It is
sixty nine point ninety six lots, so that's almost one
hundred watts on that resistor there. It's showing us point
oh five ampire hours. It's shown us that the supply

(10:55):
has been owned for eleven minutes and we're drawing two
point nine three nine four amps. And then it's back
around to show on wattage again. I can smell that resistor,
so I'm gonna stop. The resistor can take that. It

(11:15):
can go up to twenty watts, so it can't take
that long sixty nine watts. Yeah, you wouldn't want to
run your twenty watt resistor at that wattage for very long.
This seems to be exactly what I was hoping for.
I got up to five amps out, but I would
like to had something more than that, being I've got

(11:37):
a fifty amp power supply. However, five amps is going
to be enough for most stuff I want to do,
and it's got all the features and functions that I wanted.
So check it out and do be aware. As I
mentioned earlier, there's a variety of these out there that
look exactly like this, and they probably function the same,

(11:59):
but pre voltage and current writings are going to be
different on it. And let me just mention that no
resistors were harmed in the making of that segment. Was
it glowing red? My finger was. When I checked the
temperature on it, it got toasty twenty white resistor gets
kind of warm when you put seventy watts into it.

(12:20):
I didn't hold it there that long. I was concerned
and I had another one of those resistors, so I
measured the resistance of the one that I didn't use,
and it was eight point three olms. I measured this
one and it was it was about nine oms, but
after it cooled down it was eight point three elms again,

(12:41):
so it didn't damage it all to.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
Stay set until you actually get it dialed in and
then click the encoder or does it vary according to
what you're seeing on the meter.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
I didn't check that, and I should have. It says
in the end instructions that after you adjusted, you have
to hit that button twa for it to store it.
But now it may have increased it. I want to
say it did, but I didn't check that. Another thing
I wanted to check and I forgot about because I

(13:18):
was after midnight last night recording this. I wanted to
hook a scope to it and see how much one
hundred and fifty kilo HURTZ was leaking through. I don't know.
It might have been fairly clean. You think that higher
frequency you could filter that out of a DC supply.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
So yeah, and that one that I had a few
episodes back, I wanted to hook it up to a
scope to the seet kind of ripple current a matter
of that thing, but I haven't had a chance yet.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yeah, I'm going to do it and see how this
one turns out. But I'm real happy with it so far.
For you know what I spent I were shipping around
twenty bucks. Yeah, it's not bad. And so it took
that twelve vote or five vault in twelve vault Suplime
gave me a point six to thirty six volt.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Yeah, that's that's pretty good. And to get five amps
for that thing to handle five amps, that's pretty impressive.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
Yeah, vwhare as I mentioned there. Others would look exactly
like that. They won't do five ampst. I don't want
to look up the one I've got. Mine's not in
the case like that. That was.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
That's very nice of contained unit like that. Mine's more
like an open board you could mount it in the case,
not like that.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
I did a lot of searching and I saw a
lot like you're talking about, and some of them would
go with more current, but they didn't have the interface
where you could easily adjust the voltage. It had like
potentiometers on the side that you would adjust the voltage
in the constant current. Yeah, I've cut two on the top.

(14:59):
I think. Yeah, it's been a lotso looked at it.

Speaker 4 (15:01):
I'm gonna have to do that when I get home
and see Andy says there're linked to buy it. Checked
the show notes. After the show gets published, this weekend Andy.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Yeah, there amateurlogic tv slast wiki.

Speaker 5 (15:13):
Yet and they mentioned he was he was asking about
RFI and ripple.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
I didn't measure it. I plan on it, but I
just I ran out of time and kind of forgot too.
So I will be doing that and if it does
have bad RFI, I'm going to work on some filtering
solutions see what I can do. Probably should have put
it in a metal box, so if I was thinking

(15:40):
about that, but yeah, I mean it's always change it.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
Yeah, it's got a three D printer and I don't
know if he's ever tried printing with metal filament before,
but that might be a way to do it.

Speaker 4 (15:55):
This guy that' scott one hasn't ever tried it or
just uh blue some tinfall inside of it.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Yeah, or that.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
I thought of using. You know that tape I use
for for sealing ducts.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
I've got a fact.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
Yeah, that aluminum tape that looks like it would probably
do a good job because it's fairly heavy.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Yeah, it's very heavy. Well, Mike, you have a knees
item force tonight.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
It's kind of a hybrid system that they've are experimenting
with that kind of combines some of the aspects of
Wi Fi along with Laura Wand. Basically it allows you
to operate either net over Wi Fi over longer ranges
like Laura Wand does. So there's quite a bit of

(16:48):
reading in here, but it's very interesting. So if you
check out the link there, and I've also got the
QR code down there, but give it a read. It's
pretty interesting because I guess that tech it could be
used for agricultural sensor networks and smart cities.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
You've got something an update on that other radio service
you've been playing. Just a little follow up on it
last time.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
I did a segment a couple of months ago showed
you my process going through to get it my GMRS license.
I'm glad I got it, but I honest see that
it's been a little bit.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
Disappointing so far.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
But anyway, let's look at the take a quick look
at the radio I ended up selling on the TED
radio H three I.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Think it is.

Speaker 4 (17:35):
It's been okay, little radio. It's nothing special. I got
the GMRS version. You can get it amateur radio or
GMRS one. Come to find out, it's actually the same radio.
It just you can actually hold down the I think
the push to talk and turn it on. I'm not mistaken.
Maybe another key in there evolved too. But and then
you can pick if you want it to work with

(17:57):
GMRS amateur radio or are actually both and it's I
just got the GMRS one. The intenna comes with just
GMRS antenna, which is its four hundred and sixty ish
mega hurts. But this intena, I'm not sure if you
can see that, but it says it's good for four
hundred to four hundred and eighty mega hurts, so it

(18:19):
doesn't will not work on two meters. You could replace
it if you actually wanted to do that, but I've
got better amateur radios. Got my Icon eighty fifty two
that I love. Use that a good bit. But anyway,
it's illegal to use hand radios transpantal GMRS and FRS frequencies,

(18:41):
so I got one dedicated for that. Just keep stay legal.
Can't have too many radios anyway. Right, It's a nice
little radio, I guess for what it is, it's cheap.
I got two of them for about sixty dollars. I
think got one for my son to use. He has
zero interest in sitting down and learning to get this

(19:03):
even his technician license for ham radio. So if we
travel somewhere and go like we went to USEMITE several
years back before COVID and the cell phones didn't work
there in most of that park.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
So my wife and I.

Speaker 4 (19:18):
Used to handy talking she's a license to him too,
and we use handy talkies to communicate when we weren't together.
And so this way, if we do similar, my son
will have way to communicate with us. If you us
with us, because your whole family, immediate family can use
can operate under the same license.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
So I would be.

Speaker 4 (19:42):
Wsd R three seven nine, and I guess he would too.
When you ID but the display starting it, don't take
a quick look at it. Display is kind of interesting.
It's kind of a black with white letters or colored
letters actually. And the battery. It comes with one battery.
You can buy it with two. I just got the

(20:03):
one with one and the battery lasts incredibly long. It
comes pre program when you set up for GMRS or
the one I came as already set up pre programmed
with the standard GMRIS channels.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
So if you look at the.

Speaker 4 (20:17):
Channels here, some on channel sixteen fifteen, fourteen seventeen, we
have a local repeater here that's just ch on channel seventeen,
so that would be the information with that. It should
work because there's no tone on it. But we'll talk
more about that just a moment. One other nice thing

(20:38):
about the little radio is it actually came with two
of these little drop in chargers. You can actually charge
it with USBC. There's a port on the bottom. I
think you can see it right there where my little
finger is, and there's actually another one on the side
right there that you can actually program the radio with.
The radio works with CHIRP, so you can add other

(21:01):
channels in it pretty easily. It's not hard to put
them in manually.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
I'm not going to do a review on.

Speaker 4 (21:06):
The radio, just it's just kind of a high level
info about what I got. And as you can see,
I got the air port, the SEATAFF coming traffic frequency
in here, so I can hear planes coming over the
land to take off over my house or the airport's
just about a mile this way, so I listened to

(21:27):
that affair amount. The battery lasts incredibly long. If I
scan like this, the battery will last about three days,
three and a half days, probably eight to ten hour
days scanning. So I'll usually come in in the morning,
sit up there on my other computer, turn it on

(21:47):
and started scanning, and I listened to whatever comes around.
That's the other part I was gonna mention, it's a
little bit disappointing. There's really been no traffic on GMRS
at all. I hear some FRS stuff since to share
the same frequencies that FRS has the lower I think
the lower channels that the GMRS stuff has, but it's

(22:09):
much lower power. But I hear children in the neighborhood
talking to their mothers and arguing amongst themselves, out playing
and checking on one another, going across the neighborhood and
things like that. But also hear the VET up here.
So there's several businesses on here that actually use it.
I guess for cheap business radios. They probably go to

(22:32):
Best Buyer somewhere Walmart buy those those cheap that FRS
radios and use those, which is perfectly legal. But that's
kind of about all I've heard. I have yet to
hear anybody. ID won't any call sign. I've got on
there and called a few times see if anybody could hear.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
Me, but never got an answer.

Speaker 4 (22:49):
Back from anyone, and the repeater is over by the airport.
I'm about I'd have to look to see how far
the crow flies, but probably seven eight miles. I would
think it may be a little bit farther than that,
but it's not really.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
All that far.

Speaker 4 (23:08):
But anyway, I can't I can't get into it, so
I haven't heard anything on it. I can't hear it
or anything either, so I'm not sure how much activity
is on there. I'm pretty sure it's active because I
emailed the guy that.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Owns it and.

Speaker 4 (23:23):
Ask okay, usually said you ever use it?

Speaker 1 (23:25):
Whenever I want to?

Speaker 4 (23:26):
It's it was open anyway, but just as the couragey
I thought i'd check. I'm kind of curious what kind
of activity you guys are having in your area, if
you have any at all. I never really expected to
replace ham radio, but I thought it might be something
else to listen to.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
But I still turn it on, listen to it every
day most.

Speaker 4 (23:45):
Every day when I have my hand radio on back here.
But this I haven't heard much. And before you ask
me if I've used an external intenda, I have. I've
hooked it up to my disc on antenna, which was
a little dis pointing for the reception of that. That's
a whole nother story. And then I've hooked it up

(24:05):
to my little diamond antenna, I've hooked up to my
seventy one hundred, and I still didn't hear anything else
on it. So anyway, that's kind of my update, probably
the last thing I cover on GMRS unless I have
some earth shattering discovery. But anyway, I'm curious to hear
your experience with it. You have a good experience, bad

(24:29):
experience with it.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
Let me know. Anyway, I'll catch you on the hand
Bands seventy three, seventy three, Tommy, catch you on the
hand Bands Party on Tommy.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
You notice that, Yeah, it's okay GMRS. That it's okay.
I guess it's just not much going on around here
after I made that segment. Well, I actually made it
two months ago. You used to play it last month
because some other things came up. But anyway, I took
it to Gatlinburg and I could I heard some people there.
And I took it to Dallas with me one time

(25:01):
just to see here, and I heard some people on
one of the repeaters there. So it's just here. It's
not used at all to. Like I said, never never
expected it to replace the ham stuff forever, because I
mean I'm hamm through through. But that would be something
that's listened to. Would come to find out, there's really
nothing to listen to. Lit'st want to hear the kids

(25:21):
arguing or who or find out who's picking up their
dog from the boarding thing at the veto over there.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
So email you. You had one of those from slide Dell.
Have you turned it on? Can you hear anything in
your new location?

Speaker 5 (25:36):
I cannot hear anything. One of the things I did
noticed from moving out this way in the country is
my my old digital scanner does work. Again, they haven't
gone encrypted over here in my county.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
We don't know about that Mississippi yet, So keep it,
keep it quiet.

Speaker 5 (25:55):
Yeah, okay, so I'll keep it on the down low.
But yeah, one scanner works. But I haven't heard anything
on the DMRs side at all since I left.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
Then you likely won't. You've got something to talk about
on the youths.

Speaker 4 (26:10):
Yeah, the utes are added again. That's because my cousin
of any reference. The next youth on the air camp
for North Central and South America has been scheduled from
June fifteenth to the twentieth of twenty twenty five. Camp
will be held in Thornton, Colorado, in the US of A,
and I think that must be a suburb of at Denver.

(26:33):
Camper application period will be open online December the first
of twenty twenty four at youthondeair dot org, which will
be in the show notes as well. Eligible youth are
licensed amateur radio operators between fifteen and twenty five. Up
to fifty campers will be accepted. Priority will be given
to the first time attendees and to youth residing outside

(26:56):
of the USA. Past campers may apply I'd be considered
to serve as leaders during the camp. For details about
the camp and or to sign up for your updates
by email, visits a camp webpage at use on theeair
dot org for slash Denver two zero two five and
like say that'll be in the show notes as well.

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(28:48):
Tommy's radio here a little bit later. Tommy's not tom
It looks like yours looks it looks a lot like mine.
It does, but we uh no, we'll talk about that
in just a few minutes here. But first, this one.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
Has a new radio smell to it, still doesn't it.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
It does low milage. As a matter of fact, it's
a new brain. It hasn't been off the showroom floor, Mike,
speaking of the utes and such. Yes, it's that time
of the year again, I guess it is. It's time

(29:30):
for Jamboree on the Air or JODA. Jamboree on the
Air is an annual scouting event that connects scouts around
the world with the use of amateur radio. The event
is held on the third full weekend of October each year,
together with Jamboree on the Internet Jody. I guess I

(29:50):
didn't know about Jody until I read this announcement for JODA,
but it kind of makes sense with the being so
so widespread around the world, and it gives a lot
of opportunity to two scouts to connect internationally around the

(30:13):
world using the Internet as well as amateur radio. I
guess I've got an actual email here. Yep, not an email, No,
but I got that too. Yeah, State, this is one
actually printed on pulp. Here. Yeah, here's a tree for it.

(30:35):
George just wanted to drop a note of how you
help me solve my antenna problem while transmitting Ft. Eight.
I knows my SWR was varying and the power out
changing it rolled back the SWR on from s w
R on the rig. He checked a few connections on
the antenna. No luck. Then he thought about the coax

(30:59):
and he got out the megger that he had bought
after I showed one on the show many years ago.
Sure enough, coax measured just over one ko He has
the klient Et six hundred, which he often uses for
other measurements as well. With the cost of coax, it's

(31:20):
nice to have another type of test to put the
koaks through. While removing the koaks, he found some water
in it, changed it out and now he's back on
the air seven to three. Thanks for the show and
the great tips you give us. Good luck, John W
two gg, Why well, thanks John. He talked about the

(31:43):
MegaR there. I've got a couple of them. I've got
a Greenley which is really the better one. But you know,
this one has a certain nostalgia for me right here,
because this is the first mega. I ever used.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
Hold on, hold on the list Aslee Tommy, Yeah tonight,
yeah here, put these on your tongue nostalgia.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
This is actually it's a Navy surplusmager, a Holtzer in cabot.
You see these at ham first occasionally, but this one
was in mint condition. I think I paid I want
to say I paid fifty bucks for it. It only

(32:29):
goes up to four hundred volts, which only which is enough.
Some of the newer electronic ones will do kill a
vault four hundreds enough to do the trick. Though. If
we just spend the meter or spend the crank here
that it generate little voltage, the lights will light up

(32:49):
on it. We might see some meter movement. The probes
aren't hit anything right now, they're just sitting loose there.
Meter didn't do anything. Now here is just a dry
piece of cardboard. We'll just clamp it on there. See

(33:11):
if the meter does anything. Now you probably couldn't notice it. There.
It moved up just a little bit, not much. That
was h m something over five hundred megows. I got

(33:38):
another face of cardboard. I got a little bit of
water on this piece of tissue. Here. I'm just gonna
wipe it on one side of that cardboard. Blow on it. Now,
verify Tommy, that that that cardboard right there, it's almost dry. Correct.

(34:01):
Hook us up there, no funny buses. Drop the frank
and stand back.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
Hold on to your butt. I was wondering if that
a l TV viewer that had the issue with the
with the koaks and water coming out, if you bought
the uh, you know, the koak's hose combo from corpor freight.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
See a little bit there now, steaming discharge it. Wipe
it over one time again, I ain't see it's a
little damp yep. Yeah, do you wipe it very much,

(34:55):
get it very wet. It'll come way on up there.
That is how you check to see if you've got
water in your coax or damage. Unhook it from your
rig and your antennae. Just spend a little voltage up
there on the mega and and look to see if
you read anything at all. You got a bad piece
of coax, either the coax is bad or connectors bad.

(35:20):
You can there's really no other way to check for
that type of thing.

Speaker 4 (35:25):
So in the modern one, though, you can kind of
tell you how far the damage is wanted.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
Problem is it's either a bun area. It's either good
or well, no, it's it's however many meg oms it is,
and it should be infinite if there's no break. It's
measuring the breakdown voltage of the of the cable or
whatever you've got it connected to, and on a good
piece of coaxe, it should read infinite nothing at all

(35:54):
if you read anything that there's something wrong somewhere. The
modern ones they'll do like a thousand vaults. The one
I have will and it'll also do a timed measurement
so it can average it over a period of time
and maybe detect things that you wouldn't see with, you know,

(36:17):
just spending a crank up. But one like this will
get you get you the results you want just about
every time the others are used. And this one could
be too for house wiring if you're looking for a
fault in house wiring to check your ground system. You

(36:40):
can do a lot of different kind of measurements with them,
so they're handy things. Anyway, I didn't want to get
too sidetracked, but he talks about a Mega. I don't
get a chance to use a Megga that often. So
every opportunity you've been as well. See it. You can't
miss it, man, if one comes along, you better jump
on it right away. Like email, you are in a

(37:06):
different location to night than typical. I am you.

Speaker 5 (37:11):
You might have noticed the background difference here. I moved
out to uh, Mississippi to join you and Tommy and
the great state here.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
Mike's him down next month, right, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (37:24):
Mike's coming down.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
I might if it keeps getting cold of here.

Speaker 5 (37:30):
Yeah, in there, the temperature is definitely changing, uh down
this way. I don't know if y'all having some good
days finally, but uh, the hurricanes have also been chasing
us around. And that's a little bit about what my
segment is for.

Speaker 6 (37:47):
I had some things to do.

Speaker 5 (37:48):
George, I had some uh some I took some of
your Tommy's advice and then picked me up one of
the Tellotron's power supplies that was gonna solve a space
you I was having in my go box, and also
something I used for my RMS.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
Wind Link packet gateway here.

Speaker 5 (38:09):
And because I moved, there's some things I had to
do and take care of with that on the wind
Link side, so that the locations and other things can
get updated.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
So that's what I'm going to be talking about.

Speaker 5 (38:24):
Just go around time everybody.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
Now we know of your legendary frugality. Were you able
to save money on that purchase?

Speaker 5 (38:37):
You know? I was able to absolutely save some money
on this purchase due to the great.

Speaker 6 (38:44):
Show of Amateur Logic TV.

Speaker 5 (38:46):
If you use that code that's on the sites there
that you put out in social media, you'll wind up
saving some money. So I happened to have a need.
I wanted a certain one and they had it, and
look at that the AMTV code worked. Ill save me
some dough.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
All right, cool, Well, let's see what you've done up to.

Speaker 5 (39:11):
So here we are about twelve hours out from landfall,
and I'm already well underway with preparations from emergency communications.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Right away or plan. So let's take a look at
what that is for me.

Speaker 5 (39:35):
So, as you might remember in previous episodes Cheap Old Man,
I've got my communications go bag, some batteries and actually
my HF three UHF rigs and antenna is ready to go.

(39:56):
So I have that inside in the safe location. And
one of the things to note about that is it
won't be deployed until after if needed in the storm.
I have made that antenna for the RMS gateway portable
so that I can take it down when the winds

(40:16):
get high, or put it inside in the attic or
in the garage or somewhere else where it's going to
actually work, still work, but then deploy it out and
go higher if need be, and secure it. So the
station is very portable where I can move it where
I need it. One of the systems, however, that I

(40:39):
do have deployed already, is my wind Link RMS packet
gateway that serves about a seventy miles range within a
repeat a repeater area here digipeter area overpacket. So that
is running, and we'll keep it running even if we
don't have power out in the UH where I'm at,

(41:06):
and the software of course that goes along with that,
I'll keep running. And there's also an aprsis UH gate
eye gate that I'm running that advertises our position, so
I'll keep an eye on that as well. It's all
can connected to the same system here, so we'll definitely

(41:27):
try to keep that going as part of our emergency
communications plans and serving others as long as we can.
Again with an eye on UH response or thoughts of
after the storm, who we can serve and uh how
we can be part of that official relay station, even

(41:48):
though I'm sure since I've moved to Mississippi since that
I'll have to uh update some of my uh section information.
Uh that's a new thing for me or a recent
thing for me. So RMS Gateway station here up ready
to go. Conditions are pretty mild for us right now,

(42:08):
but it's picking up.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
It just upgraded into a Category.

Speaker 5 (42:11):
Two storm as it goes on to shore in Morgan City, Louisiana.
But yeah, you can hear some of the wind chimes
and see the trees blown a little bit more here
and pickying with the antenna is still up.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
Well.

Speaker 6 (42:29):
If you choose to be a wind Link Gateway or
RMS Gateway sishop, whether it's HF or VHF, whatever you
decide to do, one of the requirements is that you
let people know what's happening with your gateway.

Speaker 5 (42:44):
Through their services or gateway news blog, and they'll publish
what's happening in your club or what's happening to your station.
And in my case recently, I uh basically moved to
a new location and had to put that blog on there,

(43:05):
so it's a responsible thing to do as well as
keep it running, you know, twenty four to seven in
a hardened fashion.

Speaker 6 (43:13):
So some of the requirements if.

Speaker 5 (43:16):
You ever choose to be a wind Link gateway operator
just to keep things going and be super proactive and
communicate with people who might want to be using your systems.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
So it is something I did and learned.

Speaker 5 (43:30):
Also, need to update your license information when you move
with the SEC so that your call and you know,
curez entries and whatever else services will actually be updated,
So keep.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
That in mind and have a good one. Of course.

Speaker 5 (43:57):
One of the reasons this is always a good thing
to do before the storm because they've already activated actually
at nine am Eastern time ten or eight am my time,
is to check in with them just to let them
know you're here, so that they have a point of reference,
especially for the people who are in the impacted area.
And it's always a good idea to keep those channels

(44:20):
that are two way communication transmit and receive clear so
that the people in the affected area can get through.
There's reflectors and other items where you can listen and
monitor if you want to do that.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
So always a.

Speaker 5 (44:34):
Good service here. All right, let's see what we got
here from gigaparts. All right, I think that might fit
the bill. Got some in power poles and a smaller package.
I want to take care of my space this year
I'm having. All right, let's give it a let's give

(44:56):
it a look here. Let's see what the old trusted
Fluke says about that met It looks good. Thirteen point
eight or so. Well, the trusty handy dandy Fluke agrees
thirteen point eight. There we go, alright, that I ought
to do the job. One of the other things I

(45:20):
do here is I have a five four hundred dedicated
to UH weather services, the weather UH radars that I
watch as it's coming in, as well as my own
weather computer information that's UH receiving stuff from the weather

(45:41):
UH system station that's outside looking at the reins. And
of course i'll Noah Weather Radio, which you can already
see we're in a watch area and it's got really
good signal here from Noah.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
And I've already.

Speaker 5 (45:55):
Gotten several alerts on tornado watches, et cetera.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
Warnings.

Speaker 5 (45:58):
So oh, it's good to have that information where you
can reference what's happening. Sometimes they ask you for information
from your location about some weather conditions when you're checking
in with.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
Them ways offset adjustment. That's pretty unique. I've never seen
that before. And I'm just wondering, Emil. I know I'm
putting you on the spot here because I normally don't

(46:35):
read the instruction manuals until I can't figure something out.
Just wondering if you had an opportunity to read the
manual on that power supply and what the manual said
about that adjustment.

Speaker 5 (46:48):
Okay, excellent question there, buddy, And it just so happens
I did because I wanted to know the same what
was going on. You know, switching power supplies and create
some noises with the way they do. What they do
and their blurb on it is tailor to reduce noise,
particularly for communications equipment. Any potential noise can be negated

(47:11):
using the noise offset control. So that's about as far
as they go into it. But maybe we could look
technically into what's going on there with the way switching
power supplies work.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
I'm thinking it's changing the frequency.

Speaker 3 (47:25):
Yeah, I would think so the conversion frequency by a
little bit.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
You'd be easy enough to test, unless it's very very
well filtered and we can't measure it. I mean, I'm.

Speaker 3 (47:37):
Curious though, if there's a slight variation in the open
voltage when you adjust that knob.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
I mean, if it's regulated. No, probably, maybe not. I
don't know. It's a mystery.

Speaker 5 (47:51):
Yeah, I don't have problems with noise with it, that's
for sure. So I haven't had to use that party
thing yet. But one of the other things, besides everything
I just went through on my video that I ran
across guys, is my uh my breaker box for the house.
There's four hundred amp service to this place here, and

(48:14):
one of my two hundred an breakers decided that it
didn't want to switch on and stay on anymore.

Speaker 3 (48:21):
So that switch is physically broken.

Speaker 5 (48:24):
I don't know if it's a uh I know they're
magnetic and thermal protection usually, but whatever that switch mechanism
is took a hit or got something. Because this ain't
cheap old Man compliant, I can tell you that it
is not.

Speaker 3 (48:42):
Can't you shim a piece of wood in there to
keep it on? I'm not going there at Maybe a
little gum wrapper, maybe a penny, or a little bit
of aluminum foil from your wriggly gum you can stick
in there.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
But we did survived.

Speaker 5 (49:00):
I don't mean you made legging of it, but we survived.
That it's going friends, see, was pretty mild for us.
How far north and east I am away from the
I'm away from where it came in. Many people had
much worse than me. And of course you know the
guys in Florida and North Carolina and all the other
places I had the other hurricane coming through, they had
it much worse than us.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
So those main breakers, I'm just curious. Are they on
the inside or the outside of your home?

Speaker 5 (49:28):
Yeah, this one is in a box that's outside where
the meters fed from on the ground in the main box,
the power company's boxes on one side, in this box
with the four hundred nth services on the other side.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
I'm not the only one who had an actual email
this time around, but you got.

Speaker 4 (49:44):
One too, isn't it? To follow up from one a
couple of months ago from my friend Ray Murray A
I two s says Hello, Tommy. I was shocked when
I heard my name and callsign, and watching the last episode,
well you shocked again, buddy. I had had a few
friends watching TV with me and decided to show them

(50:05):
a site made for amateur radio. They were shocked with
mouths agape when they heard my name and call sign.
Thanks very much for making me famous. If we're if
we can increase somebody's street cred and never missed an
opportunity for that. So anyway, he says, I charged all
my batteries. He last email was about the battery project

(50:30):
the pictures on screen for he made the project. It
was having trouble bounce in it, so they said. He
charged all his batteries at less than three amps at
three point five six volts as I suggested. Then he
made two packs out of the four in series, which
you can see. That's how I have my configured right there.
I made four doubles out of it and then hooked

(50:53):
them all up to get the right voltage in current. Anyway,
he floated them for hours, you know, use it to
power his K three until the voltage drops went until
the K three shuts down and checked the balance. He
made up some leads and the connector for each pack
to charging with the b MS and when one pack charging,

(51:15):
uh or he'll have charge one when the other one's
being used if he needs to.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
But Uh. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (51:20):
Like I said in the last few mel I wish
I had just got beer cells and made not paired
them together. They worn'ts fine as long as your cells
are matched, but sometimes they.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
Get off a little bit and it could be a
little bit of an issue. Anyway, I hope that it
enhances your street credit. Ray. Well, it's time to have
the main celebration here tonight, right, the thing that everybody's
been waiting for celebrating. I didn't What do you got there?

(51:51):
Watermelon wine? Oh, that's waterloo.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
Wine.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
Will be right back at the end of each month.
It's Amateurlogic Ham College, the new show for those new
to the hobby and those wanting to get into amateur radio.

Speaker 4 (52:09):
Which of the following is a purpose of the Amateur
Radio Service as stated in the FCC.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
Rules and Regulations, that inductor and capacitor form a tuned circuit.
That's how you tune the radio to the frequency that
you want. The English language. We lived in town. I
liked it. I listened to mine a lot. It was
really cool because you didn't have to have a battery. There.
There's our homemade telegraph station. We can use it for
a long distance communication. Though like what three feet across

(52:36):
the table. The answers be.

Speaker 4 (52:39):
Voltage was named after Italian physicist Alessandro Volta. We can
see we're generating a little bit of electricity there.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
It's DC. It's always great to go back and get
a refresher. It's a lot of that stuff.

Speaker 4 (52:50):
If you've been a ham for a while like we have,
you don't really think about a lot of that stuff.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
But often they didn't have electric screwdrivers in those days,
so that's why we're not using one when we went
primitive with it. So let's see if we can hear
anything when we fire off our spark gap transmitter. Oh yeah,

(53:16):
well we didn't build anything or blow up anything today,
but the night's still young. Well, the time has come
to give away this price package. We're going to talk
about it briefly before we give it away. Not yet,
but we're very close to it. Let's talk about what
we're going to give away here though. First thing up

(53:37):
is going to be the icon ic seven five hf
six meter two meter and four forty muggahertz multi mode
portable transceiver, my favorite radio baystation performance and features in
the palmevery hand. Whether you're taking your hobby to soda,

(53:58):
Poda or some other only air of cation s. The
ICM IC seven oh five is your go to rig
from HF to fifty one four and four to forty megats.
You can enjoy a variety of bands in the D store,
dv SSB CW, READY, A, M, and FM modes. The

(54:19):
IC seven oh five receives continuously from thirty killer hertz
through one hundred and forty four megahertz, and you can
also enjoy the FM broadcast band as well and the airband.
The IC seven oh five employees RF direct sampling, where
RF signals are directly converted to digital data, real time

(54:42):
spectrum scope and waterfowl display. Yeah, and you can see
it right there.

Speaker 4 (54:46):
It shows you the spectrum, you see signals and basically
just well kind of encroach you to the next topic there.
But you can touch them to tune to whatever you
listen to. And it'll really spoil you that you get
used to using that.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
So it's a large full point three inch color touch
green display w land and Bluetooth technology does.

Speaker 4 (55:11):
The Bluetooth stuff's great for headphones. Lucky like you used
it in field day.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
Put the Bluetooth headset on around talk on the transmit
and the wireless land what wireless stuff is, it's pretty cool.
You can do a lot of things with you. You
can have pre digital modes.

Speaker 4 (55:28):
You can set up with a terminal mode on this
like I've done before amatologic segment.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
So okay, you do d star without having a hotspot.

Speaker 4 (55:37):
GPS functions yep, the sky built in GPS which is
not working in your Faraday cage studio here, but it works.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
For d star.

Speaker 4 (55:49):
You can use it for dp R S A WRS
if it shows.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
Up on APRS network, but it goes through d star.
Get there cool a micro SD card slot. You can
use it to update the radio. You could actually used
to update the firmware. You can store your settings, you
can record your u seos, a lot a lot of
little stuff with it. Let's see micro USB conductor on there. Yep.

(56:19):
I'm not gonna spend it around, but you can use
it to hook it up to your laptop or whatever.
And you used to do digital modes.

Speaker 4 (56:27):
Because the radio shows a sound card, you can use
it to UH power the uh the charge the battery
also and.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
D star functions and those work on any band. Is
that correct it's got a repeater directory for DR mode
and all that stuff in there near me repeater as well.

Speaker 4 (56:46):
Yeah, that actually takes advantage of the GPS programmable speaker
MIC yep, really nice little speaker MIC. This is this
dutchy little cheap plastic fundy speaker miclif you used to get.
This is a good, good heavy mike fatal weight to it.
It's good, feel, sounds good, and you can program the

(57:06):
buttons on it, which I haven't read a programmed mind,
but you can't do that if you want to.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
And this compact radio is rugged for outdoor use and
a small lightweight package anyways, approximately two point four pounds.
In portable mode, the Icy seven oh five has a
maximum output power of five watts from the included BP
two seventy two and that'd lasts approximately three hours. It's

(57:33):
perfect for QRP as well as q RPP operations, which
is zero point five watts. Now, once you set up, though,
I want to connect thirteen point eight volts DC and
you'll have what ten wants ten watts. See, And there's
other stuff, other accessories that are not included in the

(57:53):
contest here, but they make a number of accessories for
the IC seven oh five. You got some of those,
don't you do? The backpack, the l C one A
two backpack.

Speaker 3 (58:03):
Here, I've got mine in your radio.

Speaker 1 (58:07):
Can go mount into the top up here. It's like mine,
and it's bolted in there so we'll fall out.

Speaker 4 (58:14):
Yeah, there's a quarter twenty thread on the bottom and
it screws right into the bottom of the radio, so
it keeps you from falling out.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
And you've got the optional A eight seven o five
as well, and something that somebody might want to add
to theirs. If you're looking for an automatic antenta tuner, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (58:36):
That's the portable antenna tuner is available for it. It's
uh works off of WA batteries. It's a latching tuner,
so once it slatch it batteries last a long time.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
It's stop constantly. Yeah, train the battery when. There's optional
and free software for the pc iOS and Android as well.
So what more could you want from a QRP or
a portable rig. I don't know. That's got everything it is.

Speaker 4 (59:08):
I've said it before on here and I won't say
one more time. But it's actually if I had to
get rid of one all of my radiers except for
one forbid. That would be the one that I would
pick to keep because it does everything.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
And if you had to get rid of all of them,
you would give that one to me.

Speaker 4 (59:27):
If I had to get rid of all of them,
I would, But that's not going to happen.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
Okay, A fella can can try.

Speaker 3 (59:35):
Yeah, yeah, your friendship only goes so far, right.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
Yeah, maybe I will it to you. Let's talk about
this right here. And I know a fellow who just
bought one of these, the other model, different connectors on
it email. Can you tell us something about the Intellatron
PS twenty two to thirty MLB?

Speaker 3 (59:56):
I think I can, George.

Speaker 5 (59:57):
So, the Intelligent ps EMLB is a cutting edge switching
power supply that's those high efficiency and a compact, light
weight design tailer to reduce noise, particularly for communication. Any
potential noise can be negated using that noise offset.

Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
Control features such.

Speaker 5 (01:00:16):
As voltage pre set knobs and illuminated meter enhance the
overall usability of that power supplies. Some of the key
features of it is that it's lightweight, easy portable, which
is why I bought it, and the noise offset for
eliminating the electrical noise. The illuminated meter for clear visibility
of output voltage and rugged construction for long lasting.

Speaker 6 (01:00:41):
Now, one of the things I noticed on mine is the.

Speaker 5 (01:00:43):
GOT two year. Aren't the on that thing?

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
So nice?

Speaker 5 (01:00:46):
Good stuff right there? Yeah, it feels really solid like
it is solid.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
Oh yeah, yeah, thirty apps maximum, but it will operate
continuously at twenty apps. You'll want an antenna with that
as well.

Speaker 4 (01:01:00):
It's got an Inteltron PA twenty one ninety nine s
HF and VHF mobile antenna. It covers eighty to six
meters at two hundred watts. It's got a PL two
fifty nine connector on the bottom.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
Say it right on my truck. We can also get
it at with another connector. Yes, on KLO fifty. It's
got the PL two fifty nine.

Speaker 4 (01:01:21):
Operates from the eighty forty thirty, twenty seventeen, fifteen, twelve, ten,
six and two meters up to two hundred watts. Max
FUM height is forty nine and a half inches. It's
built in got a built in machines PL two fifty
nine connector which looks pretty nice down there. The PA

(01:01:43):
twenty one nine nine is the quick and easy way
to go mobile installing in minutes of covering eighty to
two meters as I mentioned, without swapping resonators or dealing
with sensitive controllers. Simply choose your van using the unique
taped loading coilt system, then fine tune the whiplink for
makes minimum mess w are. The PAW nine nine is

(01:02:04):
built tough but light enough to install in the wide
range of lip trunk, pipe and mag mouths and boot
mounts if we've been down under. You can also use
as portable antenna for or for income or parks on
the air, marine or in vacation travel setups as well.
For we're gonna we're playing limbo here, Oh okay, for

(01:02:27):
a portable count of police, use a wire that's longer
than quarterwave length at the operating frequency and spread out
on the ground where attached a cook shields of any
large metallic structures such as a steel fence.

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
Mitle, railing or walkway. And you know, for seventy bucks. Yeah,
that's that's a lot of antenna. It is, Mike, you're
looking at one of these. You know, you're not considering
the one with the plot.

Speaker 3 (01:02:54):
I was thinking the three eighths what is it? Twenty
four threads per d mount it would be a little
bit more rugged, but I don't know. The PL two
fifty nine looks fairly rugged too, So I think it
all depends on your particular installation.

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
Method. Yeah, I don't want to put it. I don't
know if it's what you want.

Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
Is any milproof? That's that's what I wanted.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
I was wondering, Uh, you're gonna need to hook that
up to the radio, so you sure are any.

Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
Suggest Only the best will do with the MESSI and
Boloney airborne five goats and I think there's twenty five
feet in that length. Yeah, And it comes with the
PL two fifty nine's on each end and and and
those are what particularly caught my eye because they look

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like machined connectors.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
It's very nice.

Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
It looked really well made from what I can tell.
And it looks like they accepted nineteen is it nineteen
milimeter wrench?

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
Yep?

Speaker 3 (01:04:12):
Okay, very good. It's the same dimensions as RG fifty eight,
but at fifty megahertz, it's attenuation is three point six
dB per hundred meter, less than your conventional RG fifty
eight U. It's perfect for direct burial and totally waterproof

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thanks to the pe carbon black tearproof sheath that allows
different kinds of outdoor uses. It weighs one point four
kilograms less per hundred meters than r G fifty eight,
and it's incredible lightness. Will prove a great operational advantage
and will ensure significance savings and shipping costs if you

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happen to be fortunate fortunate enough to go on a
d expedition. It's only five millimeters diameter, but AIRBIRN five
is made with tough aluminum magnesium alloy braid and both
the superlative robustness. And I'm not sure what they mean

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by the next word enviable. I don't know resistance and
viable and viable I guess that is yes, sorry, I say.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
So anyway, Mike Oh, did say for Agili, not for Gili? Yep, No,
it's it's not for Jilli, Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:05:46):
Anyway, that Messi and Polonius is probably about the best,
at least in my opinion. It's probably about the best
co actually can buy, at least of late. Anyway, it
was nothing, but it doesn't even feel like there's wire
in there.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
One if you really get on the air with that. Huh.

Speaker 6 (01:06:13):
The drummer.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
Okay, I was also noticed in the Connectors. Got o
rings back here. Yeah, and it's sealed up. It's the
good stuff. It really is very nice. And you get
that in the US from gigaparts dot com. Our our
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t V at check out and get five percent off
your order. We have a certified customer here who just
did that? Look at that smile?

Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
What that is my customer.

Speaker 4 (01:07:12):
It's just so happened and you and you know his
money is uh he'sicuilt the part with ye drum roll please.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
W two k R T and that is Kenny Telesio.

Speaker 4 (01:07:35):
If I said that right, If I didn't, I apologize,
but congratulations to you.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
He's an extra class amateur from Wall, New Jersey. Red
skinny no no, I was looking to see. I don't
if he was anyway, congratulations Kenneth, You're are a lucky winner. Yeah,

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Ralph said, what No gold pl two fifty nine those
they ran out? Those are I don't know if they
were recold or if there was just a limited supply.
Probably the pandemic that and conductivity put an end to those.
Yesph han't seen him in now.

Speaker 3 (01:08:30):
Yeah, I noticed Ralph was in the chat room. I
forgot to say I to him. Hi, Ralph.

Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
So we'll be getting in touch with Kenny and letting
him know right away that be expecting a package in
the mail very very soon.

Speaker 3 (01:08:45):
Well, I'm sure it's hand buddies that are watching are
are calling him up right now, you know it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
Yep. So you do good. You're going to have a
very good time with that. And if you don't believe me,
there's a lot of people that have those IX seven
O fives now and I don't know of anyone not
having a good time. It's a really amazing little breeze. Yep.
We have Cliff. Well, he's right there, Cliff k t

(01:09:18):
W Yep. Yeah, I think uh to may o're in
Finland's got one. He's got one, yep. A lot of
people have.

Speaker 4 (01:09:26):
He of course I think he's got his old fashioned
when he's had to buy it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
Yeah, I think tom A has one too. Yeah, tom
A's got one. A lot of people have them. I
would like to have one, now, you know me not
a q r P kind of guy, just only in height.
So I need that extra power to overcome. You know,

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you should do a lot. You can do a lot
with ten watts. Yeah you can, yep, and with five
watts the correctly conditions. I usually use a Bring the.

Speaker 4 (01:10:02):
Little twelve L eight ant battery that I've got and
look it up to it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
You and you and I both worked field day once
with only ten watts. Yeah, I mean it was a
little tougher than running one hundred watts, but still made
a bunch of contacts.

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
Yeah, I had a heck of a good time.

Speaker 5 (01:10:22):
Yep, you got what Do you let the professor use
it Tommy atfield day?

Speaker 1 (01:10:27):
No? No, I let him use my other battery. Yeah,
I do use that battery he built, the one we
were looking at earlier. I do get to use that,
and I put it to good use of my hundred watts,
drained it down over the course of the field day.
There's more like two hundred watts. You had two, well,

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I had to have two riggs running off of it,
that's correct, had one doing digital modes, but that was
only thirty five watts.

Speaker 3 (01:10:57):
Okay, but the duty cycle, Yeah, that's what prof.

Speaker 4 (01:11:04):
It held up a pretty good while until sometimes Sunday morning.

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
Yeah, we want to thank Icon and Gigaparts and tell
Tron for the prizes here for the contest. You know,
Icon has been been very good to us over the years,
especially each October. Yeah, they provide always step up for us.

(01:11:30):
Appreciate him very much. Great prize, and honestly, that's all
I use. I've got a couple of old off brand radios.
I say, no, it's they're actually one of the big three,
But my go to radios are all lot common. It's
not just because they're a sponsor of the show up.

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I really do like them that much. And once you
learn one of them, you can operate any of them. Yeah,
I love the man, all of them.

Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
I got to say, the innovation that's come out of
Icon the last five to ten years has been kind
of mind blowing. Some of the products they've come out with.

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
Well, yeah, the ICEE seventy three hundred was a game changer.

Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
And yeah, and the seven O five is a game
changer too. I wouldn't be surprised if the seven O
five is out sold, maybe the seventy three hundred by now,
I don't know, I.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
Don't know, but it's still selling pretty good. I think
those two are are probably their best sellers.

Speaker 3 (01:12:33):
Yeah, no doubt.

Speaker 1 (01:12:35):
You know they don't.

Speaker 7 (01:12:35):
They do a lot for the hands community too. They
do a lot when you when you're looking at things
like Yoda and some of the other events. Icon's the
one who's sponsoring those, you know, they do a lot
of stuff that the other companies don't really do. So

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kudos thanks for all.

Speaker 3 (01:13:02):
This to Ray too, because he's he's the man. He's
he's the man behind Icon as far as I'm concerned,
at least over here anyway, on this side, Pond, I've
said it before and I'll fight again.

Speaker 5 (01:13:18):
The quality is second to none.

Speaker 3 (01:13:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the difference for me.

Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
Yeah, definitely. And the features are there too. Well. I
guess that's going to wrap up nineteen years starting on
twenty tomorrow. Yeah, I guess.

Speaker 3 (01:13:41):
So Wait a minute, didn't he didn't you weren't you
supposed to have a toast of that famous wine you
have that comes out of a can.

Speaker 1 (01:13:50):
The well, well, yeah, yeah, the.

Speaker 3 (01:13:54):
Concord, the concord grape wine.

Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
It had occurred to me, but uh, you know, I
just didn't have time to run by the grocery package store.
We're gonna have to do that next year, for sure. Yeah.
Maybe maybe we'll do that for Christmas or New Years. Wow,

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it's hard to believe twenty years, but we're going to
do it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:24):
Yeah, and congrats again, Kenny, that's super radio. You're gonna
like that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:30):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, you're gonna be really happy.

Speaker 4 (01:14:33):
Guy when that stuff shows up here, he's probably happy
down just sting.

Speaker 1 (01:14:37):
And thanks to all the amtrologic viewers' all the ones
that keep us going and enthus about doing these things
and looking for a new and different ideas of stuff
that we can show. And there's a lot of times
there's projects we would not otherwise do. Yeah, it's you know,

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if you didn't want to see them.

Speaker 4 (01:14:58):
A lot of things the segments spun of kind of
suggestions from a lot of people keeps us coming to
Actually it's kind of nice, So Soul I.

Speaker 5 (01:15:08):
Was gonna say, that's how I made it here, So
thank you Tommy and Professor for accepting me and taking
that first video. We never looked back since.

Speaker 1 (01:15:19):
No, we were kind of afraid to. But that was
the PVC tower, wasn't it.

Speaker 5 (01:15:26):
That PVC tower made it until the very final day
at old house, never had a hitch. I took it
down one hundred times and hurricanes. It made it through,
standing in hurricanes. On the top of that thing was
Icon's discne which I still have out in the back.
You saw it in the video. Yeah, antenna man stainless.

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That thing doesn't have a spot of rust on it
and it's always out there. But that's how that that
TVC George still kicking. I brought it with me.

Speaker 3 (01:15:58):
It made it here.

Speaker 1 (01:15:59):
But it's in the so it could could make an appearance.

Speaker 3 (01:16:03):
Yet, it could go back, but I wouldn't have been
concerned about the heat down in the south there kind
of warping that PVC tower schedule forty PBC makes it
through all the forty Okay, Yeah, that's pretty heavy duty.

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
Yeah, yeah, well you might want to check it with
your megger before you put it back shot, but I
suspected it's good, all right? Uh And John H. K
two b a G. Just reminding us there. Oh, John's
in that we missed, you know, the ceremonial class of

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grape juice tonight and the toast. But he says, when
we get to the twenty first, we can enjoy an
adult beverage one more year, one more.

Speaker 3 (01:16:50):
Well, actually, over here, it's only it's nineteen, so we're
good to go.

Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
Okay, is it really? We can have some beers?

Speaker 3 (01:17:00):
Nineteen is the age of majority up here?

Speaker 1 (01:17:03):
Okay, it used to be eighteen here Actually I think
some people were okay at sixteen. But before we get
out of here, any final thoughts, tell me for for
nineteen years and nope, congrats nineteen yep. Email, Well, stay alert.

Speaker 5 (01:17:32):
The hurricane season's almost over, but not quite yet, so
you guys keep your.

Speaker 3 (01:17:37):
Ears and eyes peeled.

Speaker 5 (01:17:38):
There's some exes down in the Atlantic and the Golf
as we speak, so we're.

Speaker 2 (01:17:44):
Not going to let our guard down.

Speaker 5 (01:17:45):
And God bless everybody who's affected by the ones that
have already come through.

Speaker 1 (01:17:51):
So stay safe, Mike. Any thoughts from up there?

Speaker 3 (01:17:57):
So I guess what you're telling me is the ivory
Internet works better if you get it hooked up.

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
Yes, yeah, if that's the way your signal's coming in.

Speaker 1 (01:18:07):
Yes, that's the way we do it down here in
the lower forty eight.

Speaker 3 (01:18:11):
So you're saying I shouldn't leave it just coiled up
by the.

Speaker 1 (01:18:16):
Not helping running out on the sidewalk. No, it needs
to be terminated into a router or a modem of
some type. Whatever it is they use for fiber, I
don't know. I ad trim, I don't know whatever they
call it. One thing we want to remind you about
on the way out, and that is what is the

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name of it now, it's the lot of man Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:18:42):
It's coming up this coming Tuesday. It will be my
anniversary October twenty second, So I won't be on this
one for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
And that's the every fourth Tuesday of the month. Every
fourth you can join in on just about every digital
mode yep, down the man CAIND.

Speaker 4 (01:19:00):
So if you've got the old list, it's changed a
little bit, so you want to make note of the
new list so you can be.

Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
Sure to get it. Yeah, look at any of the
amateurlogic social media sites or the antisocial media sites, either one,
either one. I'm just going to say thank you to
everybody who's enjoyed these shows over the years. We plan
to continue on a while yet. At least our goal
right now is twenty and it'll be twenty one after that.

Speaker 3 (01:19:30):
Yeah, I can't hear you speak up a little louder, please, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:19:36):
As long as long as you guys keep watching, keep commenting,
let us.

Speaker 1 (01:19:40):
Know that you're enjoying what we're doing, we probably keep
on going. I don't see any reasons stop worked for
us this long it has None of us have been injured,
that's right.

Speaker 3 (01:19:51):
Well, I always say I've been kicked out of better places.

Speaker 1 (01:19:54):
So yep, all right, seven three everyone, night.

Speaker 8 (01:20:09):
By my my my lesson, by my my sort, bless
my blessing. Lets when let me let's left my pleas

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wh