Convert a PC power supply

Convert a PC power supply for use on the bencH

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Elliott.

Speaker 2 (00:00):
Elliott is one and a half month old, and like
I said, he's still over at the hospital at New Orleans.
And they survived the Hotel Hotel the hurricane that came
through New Orleans. And because you know.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Therese guys, there's a lot of power outages in.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
New Orleans still and in our southern Louisiana home I
and Morgan City areas and Saint Charles, and you know,
they got hit pretty bad. And we were on the
eastern side of the storm here in pickyun and that
wind did a number on the electrical utility over this
way too.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
So now and Picky Yune, don't they have a big
billboard on the side of the road there that says
welcome to Picky Yune, home of Don Wilbanks.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Yes, I don't know about the Don will Banks part,
but the sign is there on exit four.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Actually, when when in Milford, Nason that he moved to Pickyune,
I I kind of just assumed that he got locked
out of the house and had to live on Don
will Banks's couch for a while.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Or out in one of his cars. And this police cruiser.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
One of some of the videos of his his little
his little pup.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
It seems like a little nice pup.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
Yeah, Mike, what's been going on up there?

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Well, I think I mentioned last month. Uh, it's the
busiest time of the year for me at work anyway,
and got some projects happening around the house, and I'm
not going to reveal it right now, but hopefully we'll
be able to get some pictures for you soon.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
Well, what's been going on with me? I've just been
busy with you. Well, I built a little project we're
going to look at here in a little bit. It
was fun. It's it's one that I had collected the
parts on a few months ago and finally got around
to putting it together, unlike one of those other projects

(02:01):
I bought to part four two or three years ago. Yeah,
you might notice the table has gotten crowded here since
the last episode. Yeah, what could that possibly mean? Well,
it's that time of the year, anniversary time, birthday time.

(02:22):
Yeah both Amateurlogic is going to be turning nineteen nineteen
years old next month, and we could do to drink. Yep,
we got a radio thanks to icon I see seven
o five. We gave one away last year year before

(02:43):
to year four two Yeah, we got another one for
this year and it could be years not not yours mine. No,
I'm poort at myself. I mean me looking here, it
looks like it, but no important, They all out there.
We'll have all the details later in the show as

(03:04):
to what's going on. But you know, we've got some
other things to go with it as well. We've got
an Intellotron power supply some Massy and Paoloni I think
that's how you pronounce it. Email could probably do better
than me on that, Okay, Massia and Polony Coax, and

(03:28):
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We'll be looking at all that stuff a little bit
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about that later on in the show. Plus how Amateurlogic

(03:52):
viewers could save a little bit like five percent on
these mess perked up broad They all wants me to
remind the people that the slot l Hamfast is moved.
It was supposed to be this weekend, writing Milton, it.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Was the Hurricane Francine put a damper on the travel,
especially from the west over our way, you know, so
they decided to move it back to November.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
If I'm right, you have those states.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
Fifteenth. Well, let's get on into the Is it an email?
Is it a post? What is it? Tommy, It's actually
a Facebook post. It's actually from my friend Terry, usually
in the chat room. You've seen him on here before.
He says, well, once again, amateur logic has me spending money. Lol.
I took this out port bowl using my yesu FT

(04:45):
eight ninety one at twenty five watts, worked for what
seemed like ages, and still came home with forty two battery,
remaining impressed. Yeah, it's a nice device, man, I use
mine quite often. Actually, I don't have the bag though.
I don't where they came from, but I let's mind
having that bag from mine too. It's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
Two weeks droo ipk.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yeah yeah, oh yeah, I'm sorry I should have done that. Yeah,
thanks to me. All right, Well, let's get on into
the videos for tonight. I mentioned I had a project
that I've been waiting on for quite a while. Yeah,
a bench power supply can be a very handy thing
to have. I have two of them, and I'm about

(05:27):
to have a third. All of mine are homemade or
modified from other supplies, but this is the first time
I've done one with a computer power supply. Recently, I
had a couple of machines I was rebuilding, and the
supplies that were in them were these Thermal Take seven
hundred watts supplies. Seven hundred watts. That's a fair amount

(05:51):
of power. Thermal Take reputable brand specs on this thing. Well,
it's got three three volts at twenty apps, got five
volts at seventeen apps, twelve volts at fifty amps, minus
twelve at point three four amps, and a plus five

(06:15):
at two point five amps. That's one that's there full time.
I don't typically need three point three volts. I'm not
gonna worry about that. Having five voltes and twelve votes
will be handy. A negative twelve not so much these
days when I need that. And it's only three hundred

(06:37):
and forty milli amps, so I'm not gonna worry with it.
And of course I don't need this other five volts
out here. Since I've got seventeen apps on this one,
I'm going to convert this thing for bench ues few steps.
There is not that much to it. We're going to
tear out all the cables that are in it. Right now,
I'm going to remove the fan so I've got room

(06:59):
to work in. Take the case off. Mount a couple
of things. These right here, banana sockets. I bought these
off of Amazon. I don't remember. It was a set
of four. Wasn't much money. And no, these are not
gold plated. That's some type of go Landid eyes on there.

(07:23):
But they seem to be pretty decent. So I'm gonna
use those. A couple of these vault am meters. Gonna
stick those in there. One on the five vault supply. Now,
this will only go up to ten apps. That's the
highest it'll read. I'm gonna have to limit my five
volt consumption to ten apps, but that'll be okay. Same

(07:48):
thing on the twelve vault side. I'll have one of
these and I'm gonna well do one pair of outlets
that run through the meter. That'll be for up to
ten amps, and I'm going to do a second set
of Jackson there so that we can have fifty amps
and it won't run through this meter, so there won't

(08:09):
be that limit on it. There's a variety of these
with different voltages and currents. The ones I bought, or
the DSN VC two eighty eight and DC one hundred
volts ten amp. They all look the same from the front,
but they are not. The one in the photo is

(08:30):
what I'm using. It is a Version two. There are
two potentiometers on the board. One is to adjust the voltage,
the other to adjust the current display so that you
can make them read whatever your reference vault meter and
ammeter read. These things don't track perfectly though. I can

(08:52):
put it on the voltage in the current that my
fluke meters show and get it right on those, But
as the voltage changes, it doesn't track the fluke exactly.
It's not too far off, so use this thing more
as a reference than not per accurate measurement purposes. Now

(09:12):
I use the Version two that had the voltage and
the current adjustments on the board. This is the version
one right here. Looks the same from the front. It
only has a voltage adjustment on it, no current adjustment.
It also has a different size of shunt resistor. This

(09:34):
is what they use on these. Some of these, particularly
the higher current ones, will have what looks like a
big piece of copper wire in there for a shut,
or the shut might actually be separate because you got
to measure current in series, so all the current that
you're drawing has got to run through that resistor, So

(09:56):
we need to limit it to ten. Apps. Don't exceed
that or you're going to that up. I purchased mine
in Amazon. There's a wide variety of prices on these,
so pay attention to what you're going to buy. And
I don't know that I would necessarily buy the two
or three dollars ones. I spent a little more on these,

(10:16):
but they weren't very much. Now here's how we're gonna
wire this in. Looking at the top, you got the
power supply going into it. The plus voltage goes straight
on to your load. The ground or negative goes into
the black wire on the meter. Then there's a red
wire on the meter that goes up to the negative

(10:37):
on the load. The smaller wires are what run the meter.
The larger wires go in series with your voltage so
that it can measure current. So I tied the red
and the yellow wires together, connected that to the positive
on the power supply, and the small black ground wire

(10:59):
I did not use. Doing it this way, you're using
the power from the power supply to operate the voltimeter
in the bottom circuit. You can use a separate supply
and that will give you a little better regulation on
your voltage measurements. There's a diagram on how you auld

(11:19):
wire that. I chose not to do that because I
didn't have a separate isolated power supply that I was
going to use for this project. One other thing that
you might use for this, it was recommended, is an
eight home resistor, a large power resistor. This is twenty watts.
I think they recommended fifty. The instructible I was following

(11:40):
said to put an eight home resistor from the five
vault supply to ground and that would help stabilize the
regulation of the voltage. And I did try that. I
had some effect, but it didn't stabilize it down as
much as I would hope. It really just generate a
lot more heat than I needed with this particular supply,

(12:01):
and since it only changed a few tenths of a vault,
I decided this was not worth it, so I left
that out. Here's a cover from the power supply. I
have taken out the fan and decided where I'm going
to mount things. I'm going to use three of these
pairs of banana jacks, and I'm going to mount two

(12:23):
of these vault ammeters. I'll put those two across the bottom,
and I'll put the three banana jacks across the top. Here,
I used a piece of graph paper and drew out
where i want everything mounted as a template, so i'll
know where to drill the holes. I'm going to take
a glue stick and since I know that it will

(12:46):
clean off okay with four oh nine spray cleaner, I've
already tested that it's going to put some of that
on the case here to hold down that template real good.
I'll use a punch and a hammer to put a
little temple everywhere I want to drill. Even a cheap
harbor freight drill press is better than no drill press,

(13:08):
and that's what I'm going to use. These banana jacks
have a couple of little plates that they mount on
Those plates that have little rings built on them right

(13:29):
here that are designed to go inside the hole to
keep it from sliding around, because you don't want these
contacts getting up against the metals. So these are insulators.
It just so happens to the next to the last
step on this particular bit is just the right size.

(13:53):
This hole needs to be de bird. I had never
used one of these before. This is from af A
two lean about this, I believe off Amazon. Don't remember
what it costs, maybe in the twenty dollars range. Comes
with a number of little bits here they spent around

(14:14):
in the two. They've got a fairly sharp edge to it,
but it's hard and steel. So you can take this
and running around that hole a few times and that
will cut those burrs off the other side. It's cut
the rectangle hole. I used to grumble tool bottle the

(14:40):
lines carefully that I had drawn in that previously. Instead
of a vise, I used a couple of salt horses
here with the two by four and sea clamps to
hold that steady while I saw through. I've ripped out
all the PC wiring. I had some of these hole
plug so I've put that over the hole just to

(15:03):
cover it up so finger won't get up in there.
I've taken out the fan so that I could work.
I've mounted three pair of the banana suckets there. I've
mounted the two meters below, and I've labeled it this
first is the five vault supply. Now, while it's got
more current than this, I'm labeling it as ten outs

(15:27):
because that's all that this meter can pass. Right here,
here's a twelve vault at ten APP that's passing through
this meter. And here's a twelve volt at fifty amp.
It's not metered, so I can get the full current
out of the supply, and that should do most of
what I want to do. I would like to have

(15:48):
a buck boost regulator on here, However, there just wasn't
room in this cabinet to add it. By the time
the fan is back in here, it's packed full. So
I got thinking about it, Well, I really wouldn't even
need that in this same cabinet. I can have a
buck boost regulator separately in another cabinet and just plug

(16:10):
it into the power supply voltage that I want to
feed it with. Right here is where all the wires
came out, and it's labeled on the PC board on
this supply. We've got the ground, we've got the plus five,
we've got twelve volts minus twelve. Everything you need. Here's

(16:32):
where the fan was plugged in I'm going to put
the fan back in now. I ripped out all the
old wiring with the exception of this green wire. This
is the one that switches the power supply on. Now,
it might be different on your supply. I connected that
green wire to ground, so whenever the power switch is
turned on on this unit, the power supply will come

(16:54):
right on. The wiring was a little tight in here,
not too terribly. I use some bigger gauge wire for
the fifty amp socket. I use some smaller gauge wire
for the ten apples because that's what came off the
current sample here on the meter. I'm going to put

(17:16):
the fan in here. Put this thing back together, and
let's see what we got. Let me say, be very careful.
Never work on one of these when you've got the
AC voltage supplied to it. Also, these larger capacitors can
store a little bit of charge in them, so be careful.
And here's the finished product I'll put back together. It fit.

(17:41):
It was very tight, but it did fit together. Looks
looks okay, Turn it on and see what happens. Come
right up. As I said, five volts, not drawn any

(18:02):
current right now, twelve point three volts not drawning current.
Nothing sipped up to it yet. I put a tail
light bulb across each of the terminals and had my
fluke meter connected in series, and then I adjusted the
current samples. Of course I did the vaulted samples as well,
so they all match my fluke meter. As I mentioned,

(18:24):
when you start putting a load on here, the regulation
is not perfect, so it will sag a little bit
as you loaded harder, although it's not a tremendous amount,
just few tenths of a vault. However, the volt meters
get off a few tents as well, so there you
go an almost free power supply. The power supply itself

(18:47):
was free. I only bought the terminals and the vault
aid meters and that's it. So we'll see in the
future how this works out. No. I mentioned probably had
a buck boost converter in a separate cabinet. That way
I can reduce a voltage and increase the voltage. I'll

(19:09):
try this out in the future on some projects. Trying
to run a rig off of this. Really, your rig
wants thirteen point eight volts. Twelve volts is a little low,
and it's going to drop to oh probably eleven point
seven maybe eleven point five volts when you load it

(19:31):
with a rig, so it's not really enough to be
used with an amateur rig. It does look really nice.
I was kind of curious to see it. I bought
parts to do a similar project to this, probably three
or four years ago, but I hadn't got around to
it yet, so you beat me to it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
I another l big fan of those five way binding posts.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
Yes, those are great. These do have the holes down
in the post. A lot of them don't, so yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
I don't like the ones without the wholesome.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
Punch me neither. Yeah, I've got another one of those,
so I have a pair of them. Yeah. Oh, yes,
this looks a lot nicer though. Well, that other one
is just a gutted case. There's nothing from the PC
power splo except to switch in the AC sauces when
you put the transformer in, isn't it. Yeah that's been

(20:24):
a while.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Yeah, and George, I have to I have to commend
you on your choice of drill prices and costs.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
Thank you. Yeah. I think that was fifty something dollars
when I bought it Harbor Freight. Harbor Freight, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (20:39):
I got one and you know, you pull down even considered,
you pull down on the handle and you can see
that bit. You know, can't do like that, but it's
better than I can do, yeah, with a hand drill
and it goes. I mean the sure the bits seing
a lot sharper when I use.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
Them in there. Yeah. If you if you do a
punch and I did put it down there, that helps, Yeah,
I did.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
You used to have all your fingers.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
Yes, it didn't look like I would if you were
watching from the angle, It looked like my hand was,
you know, right on the bit there, but it was
it was back a little bit. And I guess we won't.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
I won't see clips of that video in any of
the Oosha health and safety videos, Right.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
Boys and girls, don't try this at home? Wear amateurs
thirteen yeap, Oh it is, isn't it. Yeah, you need
to wear one of those when you're using that drill.
For us to wear something, Yeah, actually I do wear
protection every time I use it. Well, Mike, you have

(21:48):
been working on something up there. I have.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
What I have here is a bunch of eighteen six
fifty batteries salvaged from laptop battery packs and I've just
kind of been accumulating them over the years, and I thought, well,
I've probably accumulated about forty of these things, and I

(22:14):
thought I might be able to find a better use
for them other than them just sitting on my shelf.
I've used the odd one for projects, but they're only
been They've only been like onesies and twosies. Many of
you have these ABC Uninterruptible power supplies, and I have

(22:35):
a few of them around the house, and frankly, I
got tired of buying sealed lead acid batteries for them.
They're actually velve regulated sealed lead acid. The seven fifty
voltamp models that I have used two of those in series,
so it's a twenty four volt system. So each of
these are twelve volt batteries at seven amps, and they

(22:55):
typically only last me about three years before I have
to replace them. And if I have to count the
number of times that I've actually had a power outage,
that cost is pretty high. So I found these on TMUS.
It's basically the same dimensions as one of those common

(23:16):
twelve oult seven a half here hour lead acid batteries
that are used in probably a good portion of UPS
is out there and it's a kit. It comes with
a small BMS board, It comes with the NIKEL strips
and actually the holders ads holders for the for the cells.

(23:38):
I just chose greens so that once it was built,
I would automatically know visually that it was in your
typical run of the mill valve regulated sealed lead acid battery.
And actually if you picked it up anyway, they're going
to be a lot lighter than the other ones. So anyway,
it comes with pretty much everything you need. Now, the

(24:00):
only dilemma I have is, uh, you know, whether how
I'm going to connect all those cells together. So I
thought about doing, you know, going the route and buying
one of those fancy, uh little spot welders for those batteries,
but they're quite expensive and and if you read the reviews,

(24:21):
they're not all that great. So I'm gonna I'm going
to try uh soldering them and liberally applying liquid solder
flux to it when I try to solder them, because
the terminals of the cells themsells, I think, are kind
of nickel, and and those strips are nickel, of course,
and they don't take to solder that well. So stay tuned.

(24:46):
One other thing I should mention I have this. Well,
I have a few of them, and I know Tommy
has a couple too. These little x are lifting my
eye on battery chargers. They all to perform a kind
of a quality check. You can run a sell in

(25:07):
there and it will give kind of like whatever it'll
read whatever the capacity is off the battery. So before
I hook these batteries up, I'm going to grade them
and probably choose the ones that give me the highest output,
being that it's going to be used in an ap

(25:29):
UPS application. Uh So that's what I've been working on. Okay, interesting,
curious to see how you soldering project comes out. Yeah,
that's going to be the trickiest part of it is.
And we were kind of talking offline about you have
to be very very careful when soldering these cells because

(25:52):
you don't want to short them out. You know, it's
very close proximity, you can see that, but there's a
little insulating washer. It's black and the rest of the
case of the battery itself is the negative. So here's
a different one that's got a green in slater. There's

(26:13):
not a lot of space in there, and you don't
want to short those out.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
You've got your batteries and that's the case that holds
the batteries and it's got the BMS. So you're going
to just be able to put those batteries in there.
Took up the BMS. It's going to be able to
just replace the batteries inside the ups correct and not
burn anything up.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
That's the plan.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
And does it get longer life when you do that
than the lead acid?

Speaker 1 (26:43):
I would tend to think the lifespan of a lithium
ion battery is going to be much better than the
valve regulated sealed lead acid.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
They definitely are well. I want to see how that
comes out. Get a lot more.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Can't really give you a good picture this, but this
is the BMS board here. So anyway, stay tuned, don't
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Thanks I Com for sponsoring amateurlogic absolutely. Now we're going
to be talking a little more about this radio we're
given away here shortly. But first couple of things we
want to go through here. I've got an email, a
real thing, right This came from my friend Bruce M.

(28:55):
Seven xgr. George. A couple episodes back, you told of
a good find at a hamfest. I was a regular
at flea market here locally and found a Simpson two
sixty series six multimeter with case. That's like a major

(29:15):
prize there. Yeah, yeah, especially when you when you hear
the rest of this. I noticed a sticker on the
back had a two on it. I gave the guy
two dollars and walked away. Wow. When I got back
to the suv, I hooked up the test leads to
check out the meter movement on the SUV battery and

(29:36):
it moved just fine. I took the back off and
found no batteries and it was totally clean inside. And
I'm gonna put the batteries in and checked out the
omes and I also checked out Okay, the leads were crap,
so I found an exact replacement set of Simpson test leads.

(29:57):
A total investment was less than third dollars. Eagleized canned
beaver warning Bruce N seven xg R. This nice fine, Bruce,
and a great price. That's a keep Man approved. Yeah,
this is uh my Simpson two sixty Series seven this

(30:20):
is a two sixty m it's got the mirrored scale
on it. This is like my pride and joy. Look
how shiney did. Some guy was here at the Hamfast
locally and had a table full of refurbished Simpson two sixty.
This guy said those yep, so I was happy to
pick it up. I don't remember what I paid for it,

(30:44):
but it was I think I paid around seventy dollars,
but for refurbished one, and everything's great on it. I
couldn't complain because it's practically like a brand new one.
I got one that's in the leather case and it
was it was you kid for free. Wowgas, It didn't
even cost you two dollars like it did Bruce. There's

(31:07):
one other thing that Bruce mentioned about that he found
something here that looks pretty nice. Because the only complaint
with this meter it it's got the reverse BENIGNA plugs
in here. Instead of this being a male and it's
a female, the male is up there inside a hole,

(31:30):
so you can't hardly find the test leads that will
fit this. Bruce found something though, on eBay. I think
you get five pair of those, and it's female to
female adapter. So you can plug a couple of those
down in the holes on the meter and then plug

(31:51):
a regular set of test leads into it. It's like this,
nine dollars and six cents for enough of them to
last you two lifetimes. Pretty much Why they did it
that way, I can only so you can have to
order the special leads. Yeah, I guess it would be
very hard to shock yourself with that because it's way

(32:12):
down in there. Something here I wanted to talk about.
We may have talked about this before, Tommy says, we didn't.
I remember talking about this. This is a hundred foot
of silicon inflated wire. You've seen this wire, I know

(32:32):
because you bought somem afterwards my card. Oh you haven't. Okay,
real flexible stuff. It's almost like test lead instrument cable,
very flexible. I got a noise problem here. I used
to not, but now there's some kind of ac buzzing
noise I have not been able to track down. Has

(32:54):
been getting progressively worse for the last two years, to
the point where sometimes certain bands on HF are just
pretty much unusable for me because the noise is so strong.
And I got to reading around and I've run across
an article where a guy laid a hundred foot loop

(33:15):
of wire on the ground and he used a nine
to one ballot on it, which is what I got
right here, and hooked it up on his hf rig.
Very low signal. The S meter was just tiny, you know,

(33:36):
no S nine readings. Everything's down around S one or
S two when you do that, if you're laying us
on the ground. But the noise went away, so you
had a better signal to noise ratio, even though the
signal was tiny. Without any noise, I could actually lay

(33:57):
hundred foot of wire on the ground and copy better
than I can on my eight meter loop up here
in the air.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
Transmitting would be a bit of a problem, though, wouldn't it.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
No, you don't transmit with his strictly. The only problem
is I can't leave that laying on the ground. If
I lay it in this part of the yard, my
neighbor's going to mow it. If I lay it in
the backyard, I'm going to run over it with the more.
So you know, I have to lay it out there
when I want to use it. So I had a
wise idea of something I wanted to try. Is putting

(34:31):
up a remote receiver. Now I've done some experimenting with
that and I've come up with a solution I think
is going to work for me to Raspberry Pie for me.
This is actually the eight gigabyte model. Yeah, you know,
I splurged on this one and got the biggest and

(34:53):
best you could give. And next like a week after that,
they came not with the Raspberry Pie five. But I've
got this and it's pretty fast. And I bought one
of these little nolects, any SD or smarts, and this

(35:16):
one goes down into HF, so I don't have to
use any kind of converter with it. It goes from
HF on up and I don't know gig or hurt
maybe two I don't remember the upper end. One point
two gigs probably one point two that sounds about right.
So I set it up on the Raspberry Pie. Here.

(35:39):
Now you can get Raspberry Pie Connect for free. You
install that on your Raspberry Pie. Then you can take
a browser from anywhere. Don't have to do any port
forteen or anything. You can just get in a browser
and you can connect to your Pie. And it's only
I think maybe it's only sixty four bit OSS that

(36:03):
will work with. But I've put that on here, so
I'm taking this and I've already experimented with it. We've
got a home up north of here that's out in
the country where we did field Day, where we did
phil Day. Set this up there. Instead of laying that

(36:26):
wire on the ground, I hung it up in a
tree back there. But I can use anything for an
antenna and there's really virtually no noise around there, and
set up this as a remote receiver and stream it
back over the Internet and listen to it here transmit

(36:46):
off my regular loop in the backyard, but listening over
the Internet as a left. When I originally did this,
I used ice casts and a ran an ice Cast
server on my machine here that I just run when
I want to do this, and then used a client
called but Butt on here and stream The audio is

(37:11):
about thirty seconds, so if you just wanted to spend
around and listen to things, it worked okay. But if
you needed to do it in pretty much real time
where you could hold an actual conversation Q so it
you know, it was impractical. And I got to thinking
about it that rig Pie he was using the Mumble

(37:36):
server on there, so I installed mumble on here, set
up a server on my desktop and I can connect
to it that way, and we're talking like just testing
here in the shots like half second, So that's going
to be usable. So I wanted to do that last weekend.

(38:00):
Something came up and I wasn't able to go up there.
But hopefully soon I'll get this up and let you
know how that actually works out in real life. You
get to match in a ballance too, that's pretty nice. Yeah,
and it to do that for four hundred feet you
need a nine to one, and I see that appears
to be a pretty popular ballot. I'll see a lot

(38:23):
of them with receivers.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
Yeah, on the when it's on the ground. Though, what
you were talking about before, and it's in it you
said it's in like a circle loop.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
Yeah, you need to try to make it as big
as a circle or rectangle whatever, cover the maximum area
that you can with it.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Okay, yep.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
But it surprised me. I've dread the article. I said,
that can't be right, but you got me hooked. I'm
gonna see what happens and it works, really works. We're
going to be right back and we're going to tell
you about this cond tsks coming up and how you
might win all these great prizes. Right here at the

(39:05):
end of each month, it's Amateurlogics Ham College, the new
show for those new to the hobby and those wanting
to get into amateur radio. Which of the following is
a purpose of the Amateur Radio Service as stated it
in the FCC Rules and Regulations. That inductor and capacitor
form a tuned circuit. That's how you tune the radio
to the frequency that you want the English language. We

(39:28):
lived in town. I liked it. I listened to mine
a lot. It was really cool because you didn't have
to have a battery.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
There.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
There's our homemade telegraph station. We can use it for
long distance communications though, like what three across the table
the answers be voltage was named after Italian physicist Alessandro Volta.
We can see we're generating a little bit of electricity there.
It's DC. It's always great to go back and get
a refresher. It's a lot of that stuff. If you've

(39:55):
been a ham for a while like we have, you
don't really think about a lot of that stuff. But
often they didn't have electric screwdrivers in those days, so
that's why we're not using one sport. Well, we went
primitive with it. So let's see if we can hear
anything when we fire off our spark gap transmitter. Oh yeah,

(40:20):
well we didn't build anything or blow up anything today,
but the night's still young. Let's talk a little bit
about our contest. You know, Amateur Logic has been on
the air or on the wire maybe that's the better term,
for nineteen years. We were actually on the air in
Australia on ATV for they might still be doing that

(40:42):
though they may still be, I don't know. I was
hoping that it was going to be twenty years, but
it's nineteen so we got another whole year to go
to get twenty. But we were one of the first
podcasts video podcast period, not just on Amateur but period.
There weren't many doing it. I can only think of

(41:04):
one or two other podcasts that really had anything to
do with ham Radio that are still around. Well that's
all of us. There weren't weren't anymore. Yeah, so uh yeah,
it's hard to believe it's been nineteen years. It is,

(41:25):
and I promise you. I know I've said this before,
but I remember sitting over in the other building against
that wall, doing that thing just like it was yesterday,
just this plain. It doesn't seem like that at all. No,
And yeah, you and Jim the torch then I sitting
there shoulder to shoulder. Yeah, and you know you could

(41:45):
we could reach out and touch the wall on either
side of the build because it reading off it teleprompter
for one time, one time, That's all I did. That
did not work for us, No, did not work at all. Anyway.
Next month we're going to be celebrating the nineteenth anniversary.

(42:07):
That show is going to be coming up, is it?
What date is that, the eighteenth October eighteenth. That'll be
the next Amateur Logic. We're going to be given away
a prize package here to celebrate. We've got a great

(42:27):
package lined up this year. To top it off, it's
the icom IC seven O five, my favorite radio HF
six meters two meters and four forty multi mode portable transceiver,
baystation performance and features in the palm of your hand.
Whether you're taking your hobby to Soda Poda or some

(42:50):
other on the air location, the IC seven O five
will be your go to rigging. It is your go
to rigging. Oh yeah, I like it a lot. You
enjoy a variety of bands, the d STAR, dv ssb
cw RIDA, MFM modes and it receives continuously from thirty
killer hurts through the one hundred and forty four megahertz band,

(43:13):
and it'll also it does UHF two, doesn't it. You
can enjoy FM broadcast and airband reception on it as well.
And it's got i Come's RF Direct Sampling system in it,
so it is a true SDR where RF signals are
directly converted to digital data, real time spectrum scope and

(43:35):
waterfowl display. That is that helpful to you? Oh yeah,
it's awesome. If you see signals on there and you
want to check it out, you just touch it and
let's take you right to it. Pretty much. It will
really spoil you if you get used to using that.
Oh it's hard to use the radio without that once
you've had it. It's also got a large four point

(43:56):
three inch color touch green display and that's the same
size as the one only seventy three hundred I believe.
It's also got wireless land and they think it's okay. Yeah,
and Bluetooth as well blue tooth. Yeah. So on field day.
This was my field day rig the last few years,
and I used the little Bluetooth headset with mine, so

(44:16):
I never didn't have any wire. I could get out
and walk around think my contacts, whiles wasn't even sitting
there in front of the radio. It's pretty nice micro
SD card slot. You can save your qusos, you can
back up your settings, and you can actual used update
the firmware as well.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
Cool and for us old old timers, it's got twin
pass ban tuning on it.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
Oh it does yeah, micro us be connector can I
hook that up to the computer. It'll actually charge the
battery when you're not transmitting. It will also shout. Your
radio has a sound card built in. It will show
up in your computer as a sound device. And you
can use software like FT eight things like that with

(45:03):
it the computers. I'm sorry the radio has even got
precepts for FT eight, isn't it? And can you remotely control?
I say remotely? Can you control the radio from a
computer using that? I have not tried doing that. I
bet you can.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
I bet you can too.

Speaker 3 (45:19):
Yep, d star functions gott to hit the d R
and then you can go through FUNDI repeater list and
use the GPS. Actually, the GPS is also used for that,
so you can find your near repeater. Yeah. Well yeah,

(45:39):
well we don't have any GPES inside of the mill building. Yeah,
but you can do that. And the FUNDI repeater list
and makes when you're traveling easy to find a d
Star repeater close by actually does FM as well. So
you say repeater, So is this only on two meters
and four forty or can you use d Star on

(45:59):
the HIL bands with it?

Speaker 1 (46:01):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (46:01):
You can use the store on any of the bands
with it. Okay, but there were these these are set
up for that. But you can go into DR mode
TV mode okay, l chef so he would go, yeah,
do you even know destar on hhef? Okay? Cool programmable

(46:28):
speaker mic? Yeah, nice little mic. Uh actually got a
little weight to it. It doesn't feel like a little cheap,
flimsy speaker MIC that you used to get a long
time ago. It's a really good quality feeling MIC. It's
got some buttons on it. I've never programmed mine, but
I mean I always just touched the radio because it's
right here, but you could if you wanted to. And

(46:50):
it's a compact radio that's really rugged, great for outdoor
use and the small lightweight package and it's only what
two point four pounds a little undred two and a
half pounds. That feels about right importable.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
Anybody ever twisted Roy Ray's arm about how many of
these units they've sold over the years.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
I got a feeling of them.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
Yeah, yeah, I gotta think it's a lot.

Speaker 3 (47:19):
Yeah. I think it's one of the most poper rigs
ever since it came out in portable mode. It's got
a maximum output of five watts from a BP two
seventy two that's on the rear out of there right there.
It's basically the similar battery pack that you're fifty one.

(47:41):
It's the same one, isn't it. This one may be,
but you can get a higher capacity one as well. Okay,
that can last approximately three hours under normal circumstances. That's
pretty good. Yeah, it's it's perfect for true QRP five
watts as well is zero point five lot QRPP operations.

(48:05):
You could probably go a long time on a half
a lot. Oh, yeah, no doubt. Once you've set it up, though,
you can hook external power to it like we've done
right here. Thirteen point eight bolts DCN and you got
a ten watt radio. Yep. And if I watch is fun,
a lot of fun to make contacts with. You can
make a lot, but the ten watts opens up your possibilities.

(48:30):
You just got everything, got everything. I've said before, I'll
say it again. If I had to get rid of
Heaven forbid, I get rid of all my radios, you
go down to one. This is the one that I
would keep. Yeah, I just got everything. There's a couple
of well there's more than a couple, but at least
two notable optional accessories you can get for that. Now

(48:52):
we're not giving those away, but yeah, you've got them
handy because you have one of these radios. Yeah, that's
how I could claim it's my favorite one. But they
got the tuner, the AH seven O five that you
can get with it.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
And that's a memory tuner too, so once you tune
up on a band, it remembers it doesn't require power
after that. Right.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
The radio hooks in here. Yeah, there's a cable that
goes from here to the B n C on the radio,
and then the antenna goes here around here. If you
want counterpoise, I guess if you were using that type antenna. Cool.
And there's another popular accessory for that radio as well
that you happen to have ya bag. The model number

(49:38):
for the bag, I guess I should have looked that up.
But the BA this little bag is awesome. Actually, I
just happened to know that is an LC one two. Yeah,
it's an optional backpack ideal that sounds like I deal
fulfilled operation and that is what is it? Quarter twenty

(49:58):
red water twenty three on the bottom and same one
like I'm on the bottom of your camera, and it's
kind of screws in. It's got a little leather leather
strap to the bottom that kind of keeps you from
falling out if it were to. It's a good little
fit in there. I've got my microphone tucked in mine
right there, right now, but yep, and you can actually
leave it in there and feed the antenna through if

(50:18):
you want to, the coloss cable through. And there's a
place to put your sandwich in here. Yep. I got
all my goodies in there.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
You're dang with sandwich.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
I carry my uh no tuner stays in there. Yeah,
I've got a micro fibercloth keep it clean, a little
bag of battery rubber duck whip in there if I
want to get on, well, not gonna quite fit. My

(50:50):
camera is a wrong wavelength yep.

Speaker 5 (50:53):
And then I got a little bag of all my
connectors in here. Yeah, power, And here's my Bluetooth headset
I was talking about. I used with it on field day.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
And the roll of why are to spin my antent
in there or road rope to spend then in there?
So somebody's gonna end up with a U a great
little radio and some other with it right yeah, and
if the if they want a backpack or a tuner,
those are available options. They are. They're not absolutely necessary

(51:34):
though without it for a while, but they were at
a stock.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
I have an answer to your other question too. You
you all were talking about remote control. I know I
come r SBA one definitely works with the seven oh five.
The remote control in it. I'm pretty sure the seven
oh five. I think if you look at their matrix,
it does all but two of the uh all of
the features, so it looks like it's got everything in there.

Speaker 3 (51:59):
Who what does it? And that's with the USB connection.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
I woult to you know that that radio has land
Bluetooth and h.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
USB, so I bet you it does quite I don't.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
Know exactly what they are, and the matrix is on
icon America's site for that RSBA one, and that seven
oh five has all but two of those entries on
that matrix.

Speaker 5 (52:25):
From what I remembered, you.

Speaker 3 (52:26):
Might want a power supply to go along with that.
You don't need it, especially if you're going to be
out portable. What would be a good power supply that
we should give away with.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
This wo I actually I'm glad you asked me that question,
because I would recommend the Intellatron PS twenty two thirty
MLB thirty amp switching power supply.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
What a coincidence?

Speaker 1 (52:50):
Stop nab On Andy, Can you tell us anything about it? Well,
it's thirteen point eight voltage. The voltage regulation is under
two percent, so it's very stable. You've got a maximum
of thirty amps output. It's short circuit protected and automatic

(53:11):
current limiting, so if you exceed thirty amps, it's going
to shut itself down safely. The ripple is very low ripple.
It's eighty mill volts peak to peak at full load,
and it's fused at eight amps. It's got a dual
function a vault current meter which is backlit and it's
very lightweight at three and a half pounds.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
It has binding post on the rear of it there
that you can connect radio two. And it's got a
cigarette lighter plug and it does say I looked at
the instruction manual and it says don't plug a cigarette
lighter in there. I don't even know if you can
find a cigarette lighter anymore, probably not. But anyway, you

(53:55):
know accessories at take Tech, you know that might for
your car. You could charge your cell phone battery off
of that with one of those or whatever. You got
this knob right here, and you know it makes you
think adjustable vultage because other power supplies that look similar
to this, this was adjustable voltage. That's not what it

(54:17):
is on this one. It's a noise offsett And that's
the first time I've seen this. And what we think
it does, and we haven't measured it to see is
you know, a switching power supply could have a little
hash coming out of it, although we've used some of
the other ones before and never noticed that issue with them,

(54:39):
but this, we're thinking allows it to change the switching frequency.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
Well, it does say that it's tailored to reduce noise,
particularly for communication, and that any potential noise can be
negated using that noise offset control.

Speaker 3 (54:56):
So that's what I'm thinking. It would change the switching
frequency and then that would move that noise off to
another frequency, you know, from where you're listening if you
do have a noise problem. So that's uh, that's interesting.
I've never seen one of those.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
I've never seen one before on any other power supply,
but that's uh, that's pretty good thinking there, I think.

Speaker 3 (55:18):
Yep, it's a good look at supplies.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
It pretty light, a half ounds three.

Speaker 3 (55:23):
And a half. Oh yeah, it's not bad at all. Yep.
And it looks similar to the MFJ supply that we
have given away in the past, but it is it's different.
It's the case is actually different. So I'm thinking that
probably a different manufacturer. But I mean all the power
supplies well, I mean a switch is a switch meters

(55:46):
of me, but that's noise offset, so that's different. It's
at and it's a teletron and teletrons a new line
of products from Gigaparts. Our friends over there, Robbie and
Crew and Patrick Gigaparts in Huntsville and also in Las Vegas.

(56:08):
With MFJ going away, you know, there were a lot
of products that when you went to Hamfest, everybody, every
dealer at that ham Fest had a lot of antennas, meters,
power supplies, antenna switches, and all of this stuff was
from MFJ N. You know, with MFJ shutting down, there's

(56:30):
gonna be a little hole in the market. Well, Gigaparts
is filling that with a new Intellatron line of products there,
and this power supply is one of them. We've got
another one here, how about one of their meters. When
I was at the store, tell me, I'm sorry, not
Meeter speaker, tell me about this antenna, Tommy. That's the

(56:51):
Intellitron PA TWEET nine s HF and VHF mobile antenna
eighty to six meters, two hundred watts with a PL
two fifty nine. It operates on ten bands eighty forty thirty, twenty, seventeen, fifteen, twelve, ten,

(57:11):
six and two meters wow. Maximum power is two hundred watts,
maximum heights forty nine and a half inches, and it's
got the built in machine PL two fifty nine I
mentioned earlier it's nice. The PA twenty one A nine
is quick and easy way to go mobile, installing in

(57:33):
minutes and covering eighty to two meters without swapping resonators
or dealing with sensitive controllers. Simply choose your band using
the unique top loading coil system, then fine tune the
whip length minimums. WR built tough, but a lot enough
to install on a wide range of lip, trump pipe

(57:53):
and magmounts. You can also use a portable antenna for
MCom or Poto Marine over vacation travels ups as well.
The same thing about swots me Sam probably weren't okay
for that though. I think for a portable kind of poise,
use a wire that's longer than the quarter wavelengths at

(58:14):
the operating frequency and spread it out on the ground
or attached to collect shield to any large metallic structure
such as a steel fence, metal railing or walkway and
you may be sort of familiar with this antenna design
looks like an outbacker. Yeah, that's what I was gonna say.
It looks like an outbacker. Now an outbacker was imported

(58:37):
from Australia. I have an Outbacker Junior over here that
I used for years you just take your wonder lead
here is what they call it on Outbacker. I'm not
sure what they call it here, but you select the
band that you want and you just use that banana
plug plug it in whichever band you want to be on.
Then you can tune it here, or if you've got

(58:59):
a tuner on your rig, you know, you might just
use it. Yeah, I'm hard to hitch you an eye there, Meal,
but it's an interesting antenna because the outbackers were hundreds
of dollars.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
I'm not even sure if they're available anymore.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
Are they I haven't. I don't think they're sold anymore.
I haven't seen anything about them in a long time. No,
So that mine, I've forgotten what I paid for it.
It was used well used when I bought it, and
I think I paid over one hundred dollars for it.
So right now, tell me, Tommy, what would you give

(59:40):
for this? Yeah, your first born mail child. Not quite
that much, but depends on what I have.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
Yeah, I want to quote it. I want to do
a quote from Futurama. Yeah, shut up and take my money.

Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
Sixty nine five?

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
Serious?

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
Wow, yes, sixty nine five? And what's okay?

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
I'll say it again, shut up and take my money.

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
You know, you can use it as a mobile antenna.
Get you a PL two fifty nine style amount, screw
it on their use it on your mobile. You could
get you amount, put it on a tripod, run you
a ground radio off of it, use it as a
portable a lot of different operations. Nice. Yeah, that's a

(01:00:39):
it's a portable or mobile antenna. You probably wouldn't want
to use this as a base antenna.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
But for those that's extremely well made too. But it
looks of it, it feels good.

Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
Where else are you going to get an antenna that
covers HF and VHF for under one hundred bucks? Nowhere though,
that's so we're going to be given that away as well,
radio power supply multiban antenna. What else could a fellow need? Well,

(01:01:20):
you need to hook the antenna up to the radio.
So maybe some coacts, Hey, that would be perfect.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
Not just any ordinary coact, No, not just.

Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
Any coax there, this is Messy and Feloney airborne five
coaxle cable. Man, that's a nice looking coe. Yeah. The
same diameter as RG fifty eight cu, which five millimeters
and fifty megerhertz It's at tenuation is three point six

(01:01:53):
dB better per hundred meters, perfect for direct burial. It's
totally waterproof thanks to the pe carbon black tearproof sheep.
It weighs less than r G fifty eight. Yeah. Light,
it's incredibly light, and it'll prove a great operational advantage

(01:02:15):
and will ensure significant savings and shipping costs Ford Expeditions.
It's only five millimeters of diameter, but Airborne five is
made with tough aluminium magnesium alloy braid. It boasts a
superlative robustness and inviable resistance. So it's got the aluminum

(01:02:36):
foil on there that's covered by a braid as well.
And this has got the PL two fifty nine connectors
installed as well. And these are not your regular PL
two fifty nine. These are a little bit different right here.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
It looks like they're machined.

Speaker 3 (01:02:59):
Yeah, there is installed and soldering instructions are included if
you bought the connectors. They come pre installed on this cable.
Dramatic suppression of background noise, no braid soldering needed. And
it's got a new compression design with double seal that
ensures a better protection against infiltration of water humidity or

(01:03:22):
condensation and you might notice you might not be able
to see it here. That's like a nut. You can
take a nineteen milimeter wrench and that actually fits on here.
So if you've screwed it on too tight and you
can't get it off, rather than grab a pair of pliers,

(01:03:44):
just grab a nineteen millimeter wrench and here's set to go.
It's nice, man, it's just almost a unnaturally light. If
you're going to be putting this in your backpack and
will looking around, that's what you want, that's what you'd want.
I'm gonna ask something to order some of that, and

(01:04:05):
I think I'm gonna order one of these too. Yeah,
and it's got a couple of wraps there, outgrow style wraps,
so perfect for your portable operations with the Lex seven
oh five. Absolutely, that's really cool. So we're gonna be
giving away that package on the next show. Well, we

(01:04:26):
need to tell you how you might win that. You
need to be a license hand, a licensed US or
Canadian amateur radio operator with the US or Canadian shipping
address yep, and please do only one entry per contested
Sending more than one entry is going to disqualify you.
The winner's responsible for any texas incurred, and the winner

(01:04:46):
agrees to use his or her call sign and name
and promotional and news related items to the contest. Contestants
must not be an employee or affiliate of amateur Logic
or Icon or dig aparts.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
Yeah Yeah, okay, Hey how to enter? Send an email
to contest two zero two four all onward no spaces
at amateur logic dot tv with only your call sign
in the subject line. Include your name, call sign, class
of license, and address in the email methage. Submissions must

(01:05:19):
be made between Sunday, September first and Monday October fourteenth,
twenty twenty four.

Speaker 3 (01:05:25):
We're going to do a random number drawing. We're going
to see how many entries we get, plug it into
random dot org and have it generator number fours, and
we're going to be announcing the winner on the October
eighteenth episode of Amateurlogic. That's just one month away. If
it's determined that the winning entry doesn't meet qualification requirements,
and then we'll draw another winner using the same method.

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All the contest rules and information are posted at amateurlogic
dot tv slash contests. The ic seven oh five the
Intelltron PS twenty two BMLB power supply from Gigaparts and
the PA twenty one nine nine S compact multi ben

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antenna and twenty five feet of Messi and Boloney airborne
five coax cable. What you should do right now if
you're watching this show, if you haven't already entered, contest
is already open and you can enter. The latest you
can enter is October the fourteenth, So you can interpet now,
go yep, but only one time if you interview more

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than once. Yeah, yeah. If you're not sure, is there
other responders set up? Yes, okay, so you should get
an honor responder back unless your spam filter gets it
for some reason. If you don't get one, don't don't
enter again. To get yourself disqualify. Email Georgia myself and
we'll be glad to check it for you. Make sure,

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and that's just stay in the contest. Just at our
first name at amateurlogic dot tv. You could even ask
femail and Mike and they would do they'd do traffic force.
I think traffic.

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
Yes, I'm at the gigapart site right now because I'm
really thrilled about that Pa, I guess I should mention too.
There is an optional connector instead of the mail two
fifty eight. You can get it with a three eight

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twenty four standard map as well. You can and I
don't know if it was mentioned, but it'll handle two
hundred watts. So that's pretty interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:07:35):
Men.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
That yep, okay, I wasn't paying attention.

Speaker 3 (01:07:38):
And one other thing about that, And gigaparts right now,
to help us celebrate, they're giving you a five percent
off on items from the Intelltron Explorer and Massive and
Poloni Line Perfect. I'm going to order myself. These three
lines right here are exclusive the Gigaparts. All you gotta

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do is use the code a m TV and you
can say five percent. So go to gigaparts dot com
slash amateurlogic. When this show goes live, I'll have that
in the show notes as well. Okay, go to the
show notes and you can find the Lincoln there. Take
a brief look because you may not have heard of
this before. In teletron Is I was mentioning earlier power supplies, meters, tripods,

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got a Nixy tube. Yeah that I saw that in
the store. I came really close to buying one of it.
It looks really cool. Yeah, antenna switches, more meters and
power supplies.

Speaker 1 (01:08:46):
Did we mention did we mention the designer that's now
working for them.

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
Yeah, Stephen Pan who worked with MFJ for years and years.
He was one of the main most technical guys over there.
He is now with Gigaparts and is helping bring this
line together with them. Antennamounts, that's good look at two plexus.
Good price too.

Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
It is.

Speaker 3 (01:09:14):
Clocks. They had a couple other clocks. I saw them
at the Huntsville Hamfest. I like this one right here
really had a great look to it. Mobile antennas. They
got hamstick antennas, speakers. You know that that line of

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accessories that everybody, all the dealers carry it the ham Fest.
Pretty much all those products of the majority of them
are available from Intelletron at gigaparts dot com. Also, they've
they've got these guy wire rings that you know, if
you bought one of those fiberglass masks, you might have

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occasion for those or even a metal mask explorer. I
didn't know what this was, and I saw this when
I was at Huntsville. This is a line of carry
products here three hundred watt flexible solar panel. These Explorer
module backpack systems look kind of interesting. Just fifty nine

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ninety five.

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
Yeah, the price certainly is right, and it's.

Speaker 3 (01:10:25):
Got these other items that you can add to it.
Twenty nine to ninety five. You can get the Explorer
IP seven five the two modular backpack add on, so
you could carry your IC seven five in this. Now
you know it's not going to be as heavy as
that I come backpack, but economical option you might want

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to explore. I haven't really looked through everything. They've got
a speaker, microphone, a lot of different packs.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
What's the fair Day sleeve?

Speaker 3 (01:11:01):
Yeah, I guess you put your phone in there, and
the mess in Poloni some man. I have seen this
stuff in person before where they had a display. Oh yeah,
with all these stretched out and stripped back where you
can see them.

Speaker 1 (01:11:20):
It's about as good as you can buy. I have
never never seen anything better. No, it is my mind anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:11:30):
Outstanding cable. Yeah, I'm gonna be buying me a piece
of that for my seven o five kid. Here, I'm
definitely gonna buy the centenna yep. And the connectors are
great too, and I'm gonna say if I've off of
it too, Yep, just use the code am TV when
you check out. I believe it checkouts where you would

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enter that. This is not all they're going to carry there.
There's a lot more coming. Yeah. In the last episode,
I had an interview I did in there with Stephen
Mullow and he he talked a lot about it and
what they're trying to do with that. So we appreciate
them sponsoring it. Of course, we appreciate I com and

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the IC seven five there, Rainovac and the whole cruise.
Let's read around in my opinion, yep.

Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
Yeah, well we knew that was the winner from the
very beginning when they announced it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:30):
Amateur Logic dot TV slash contest. Go there, get all
the details. You could be the lucky winner because we
don't know who it's going to be, but it'll be
somebody who enters. I know that much. And then, like
I said, I'll have the gigaparts link in the show
notes and the link to the Icy seven O five
so you can get more information on both of those. Great.

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I think that's going to do it for tonight. Before
we get out of here, Tommy any final thoughts No.
Seven three? Good luck in the contest, yep email any
thoughts from down there? Is it getting warm? Uh? It
is still warm a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
It's starting to have some fall days in weather. But
you know what if hurricane seasons got over, So keep
an eye on the Atlantic, they're still out there rolling
this way.

Speaker 3 (01:13:24):
And keep your hurricane lamp handy.

Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
Yeah, and don't let the laser being pokey in the eye.

Speaker 3 (01:13:32):
That's what it looks like, Yeah, Mike. Any final thoughts
from the lake, Keep.

Speaker 1 (01:13:40):
Your head above water. Day out of the water is
probably better.

Speaker 3 (01:13:48):
It's been.

Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
It's been really great. And folks don't forget to enter
that contest. Yeah, stay away from Crystal Lake, Georgia. I
have one question for you. Yeah, is missus W five
JDX missing her cricket mat?

Speaker 3 (01:14:06):
No, that was mine? Okay, it wasn't hers, that was mine.
That I'll use its power supply project there. Oh yes, yeah,
Now I had to buy one of those when I
saw it was self healing, and as much as I
like to use exact to nights, I had to have
that one. All right. Join us back here on October

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the eighteenth for a nineteenth anniversary celebration. We're going to
announce who won this. In the meantime, get your entries
in now Altrologic dot tv slash contest for all the
details you need, join us back here, and at the
end of the month, it's going to be another episode
of Ham College where we're studying for the Amateur Technician Exam.

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That will be twenty seventh September twenty seventh, so one,
Professor Thomas and Dean Martin. Jason probably won't be here
that time. No, probably be a little late. Fam I
guess seven three, yep, saying three or body.

Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
Seven three. It comes with the nipkele strips and actually

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the holders I hesitate to ask, I'm not familiar with
that term nipple strips, nickel nickel.

Speaker 3 (01:16:15):
Nickel. We're gonna need to edit right there. I didn't
understand what you were saying. Man,