Emile's Adventures in Space

I appreciate being able to join the great hamfests through the ALTV gang

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Three of us were there in the Southern Hemisphere along
with a lot of our friends. This year, we had
a good time in Huntsville. Oh yes, it's a great time.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Email was there. Mike didn't make it this year. One
year though, you and Jerry got to come down.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
I had big hopes, but it didn't transpire. I mean,
summers are my busy time with working all, but just
couldn't make it happen.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yeah yeah, maybe next year, maybe we'll see.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
So wow, what's been going on Tommy?

Speaker 4 (00:45):
Just to hand fast and trying to stay cool man weather.
It's been so hot. Just haven't done out much outside
stuff these days.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Oh yeah, well it's been like a hundred and six
most of the week.

Speaker 4 (00:58):
Yeah, it's been terrible. So other than playing around the computer,
I actually haven't even been on the radio that much.
I need to get on the radio some of these
hot days where you can't get out.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Email. What's been going on down there?

Speaker 5 (01:14):
Well, I'm redoing the shack lately.

Speaker 6 (01:17):
I took some time to take things apart and roll
back some coaxes and take things out of my entry
way to the shack and going to redo.

Speaker 5 (01:28):
Some things and in.

Speaker 6 (01:29):
The meantime, getting ready for the October ozone Amateur Radio
Club Handfast coming up, so I'll probably have a couple
of tables or two and we're doing a forum as well.
I got a talk over there, so getting ready.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
What's the temperature like in the shack email?

Speaker 6 (01:47):
Yeah, the temperature is swinging pretty wildly with my window unit.
That's one of the things I think I'm gonna work on,
get some more cooling capacity possibly for that room, and
do some better insulation things. That's why that's one of
the reasons I'm redoing it.

Speaker 5 (02:05):
George.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah, yep, Mike, I know you've had a cool wave
up there.

Speaker 7 (02:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
I wasn't gonna rub it in, but since you brought
it up as well as August is just fantastic. Mid
seventies during the day and low sixties that night.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
And that's not in Kelvin right.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
Nope, that's that's fahrenheit woll Emel.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Your ham Fist is October sixth and seventh.

Speaker 5 (02:36):
Thank you, Tommy, I felt I saw that from Glenn.
Thanks Glenn.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
Would you would you like us to put in your
Google calendar?

Speaker 5 (02:44):
Yeah, I'm might have to put an entry if I
show up. I'm owing for them.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
Yeah, you could just have a I do it for you.

Speaker 5 (02:54):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
Heck you can have me. I just go to Hanfest
for you.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
How do we even know you are here tonight?

Speaker 8 (03:03):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (03:04):
It's cheap wardrobe.

Speaker 4 (03:06):
Okay, Well, let's get on into the show here, Mike,
I think you're the first one up.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
I don't think this is an email. This is this
would be kind of a long distance to be coming
from email.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
No, but it's certainly certainly newsworthy. This happened a couple
of days ago. And congratulations to India for being the
fourth country to land at spacecraft on the Moon. So
really really good accolade for them. And to make things

(03:41):
even more difficult or more challenging, it's where they landed
on the Moon that was really the challenge, because where
they landed, and actually I don't know if you can
see on my background, but there's a there's a picture
of the moon and at the very they landed in
the very south pole.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Of the moon. Ohops.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
This way, the yellow dot is the sandry and three
lunar lander. And you can tell by the terrain there
or the top topography that there's loads of craters, and
one of the primary missions of this particular launch was

(04:25):
for detecting water on the Moon, and they're hoping to
find frozen water in the shadow areas of the craters,
and that's why they chose the South Pole where there's
lots of craters as you can see, and actually you
can even see some shadows there, so well, ever know

(04:46):
they might detect, you know, actual physical evidence of water.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
On the Moon.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
That's a good idea to try down there, because I
see any water on there's just going to run down
to the bottom like that before it drips off, right, Yeah, Tommy,
it's pretty hard to land upside down though.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
Pretty much.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
You have actual friends at the Hamfest this year.

Speaker 6 (05:16):
The hat who's in the chat room tonight K two
p A G. Found the cheap hat, the non dog
chewed cheap hat. I met John in person. That was
a great, great time, great to meet him in person. Finally,
thanks Vermont, it says VT on there.

Speaker 5 (05:38):
VT.

Speaker 6 (05:38):
Yes, this is the Ambulance. If you check the ambulance
button on checkout when you buy the hat, get the Ambulance.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
Edition, so that hat's intended to be viewed through a
rearview mirror. On a car.

Speaker 5 (05:51):
Yes. The first hat I saw was during the breakfast.

Speaker 6 (05:58):
At the hotel we were in, uh the spring Hill
sweeps across the road from the place, and uh a
few locals were there. This is a person who's in
the Jefferson Amateur Radio Club, I believe, and uh we
hooked up with him for breakfast. First hat I saw
coming out of uh the elevators.

Speaker 4 (06:17):
Yep, he's he's always at Huntsville. I got to speak
with him to this this uh last weekend as well.

Speaker 6 (06:23):
And there's another Jefferson Amateur Radio Club with the I'm
not Don will Banks pen there and Scott he's also
uh a local to our.

Speaker 5 (06:34):
Area in Metterie.

Speaker 6 (06:36):
And there's Chip sideways Chip and and uh he I'm
gonna have to be careful when I'm talking to Chip
because he apparently talked to my father for quite some
time and and apparently got the low down in dirt
and and speaking of my dad, he enjoyed the UH event,

(06:57):
the first time he's ever been to one.

Speaker 5 (06:58):
Of these events.

Speaker 6 (06:59):
Well, actually, I take it back, he went to rain
because they had crawfish. Yeah, but this is the first pretty,
you know, decent sized him best he's been to and uh,
you'll see a little bit later why he actually came
with me here.

Speaker 5 (07:15):
So good to old cheap pops.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Uh, and he is not a ham, He's not.

Speaker 6 (07:22):
There's a story there my my grandfather, his dad was
a operator, a radio and navigator on the C forty
seven in the South Pacific during World War Two, and
he wound up being avionics and a radio electronics shop
for the Air Force when he came back into National Guard.

(07:44):
So pretty cool story. I think I knew where I
got it from. You you know, I'm going to find
the right tables at these places. So I definitely found
the right tables here, quite a quite a good selection
of each dollar, each cheap. They even had a three
dollar bucket there, and I'm pretty sure that how headset's

(08:07):
probably not in the three dollar bucket.

Speaker 7 (08:11):
Now.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
I tried to read the stick around it. It didn't look
like three dollars to me, but I couldn't see it.

Speaker 6 (08:16):
The flea market at Huntsville is phenomenal if you've never
been so, but you got to.

Speaker 5 (08:21):
Find the one dollar and a three dollar.

Speaker 6 (08:23):
I didn't find any free ones, though I'm sure if
I would have went Sunday there would probably been some
free things.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
Well that's because there was somebody there that was cheaper
than you and got to the good for you did.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
That's right, Yeah, huh, you could have had a.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
A free right ear from a set of Monster earbuds
that I've purchased. There there was a vendor that had
a stack album man all in the boxes and I said,
Monster earbuds for ten bucks. You know I don't have
any Bluetooth ear buds. That's probably a deal.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Well it is, but.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
Apparently for ten bucks you only get the left ear.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
That's the same guy you bought the battery that would
charge that is, but I also bought i'd say seven thousand.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
From Yeah, and it's been it's been fine.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Well then too the videos for tonight, Well this first one,
there's one guy that emailed met up with there and
I had a little chat with about.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
A little known digital mode.

Speaker 7 (09:34):
All right, this is uh in the old cheap Old
Man and I found j A four W the name
Joe Walker.

Speaker 6 (09:43):
Joe Walker who got a story and uh something about
the ft eight and how many grit squares?

Speaker 4 (09:50):
Yeah, well yeah, that's people try to work as many
different grid squares. Whole world has both down into two
degrees by one degree grid squares and VHL amateur radio offer.
I try to work as many as they possibly can
and get them confirmed.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
It's one thing to work on, but it's something else
to get a goods clerk got along them. Oh yeah, yeah.
I wish I could work all of them, but I
have worked and confirmed Greenland. Uh. Just this past June
I worked Isle of Man and Wales on six meters.

(10:28):
So that's if you look it up, you'll find out
that's a pretty good twill cycle.

Speaker 7 (10:33):
Twenty five is starting to kick it.

Speaker 4 (10:35):
Yeah, we wanted to keep kicking.

Speaker 7 (10:39):
What kind of what kind of equipment do you use it?

Speaker 4 (10:42):
I've got several pieces of equipment, but my pride and
joyed is yezu FT one O one MP right, yeah, yeah,
they gave me this cot.

Speaker 7 (10:53):
So that's nice.

Speaker 6 (10:55):
And what So the area you're covering is you said
Greenland and the UK? What all the kind of work
like FT eight wise? Are you doing a lot of
local Like what's the distance as usual?

Speaker 2 (11:08):
Well?

Speaker 4 (11:09):
Six meters a band that it opens up for different
parts of the world different days. A friend of mine
just worked for a way the other day on it,
so which is another friend work in Japan, but I've
never heard of Japan on six meters that I have
work Greenland in Iceland. So you know, it's it's just

(11:31):
going to what six meters is doing at that particular
time when you're in there, being in the right places
the right time, that's right.

Speaker 7 (11:38):
And I've often heard it referred to as the magic band.
So it's all about the timing.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
It's all about it.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
If you ever get never have caught a band opening
on six meters, you don't know what you're missing.

Speaker 7 (11:50):
That's awesome, that's awesome.

Speaker 6 (11:51):
I've worked quite a bit of FT eight in my
cheap adventures with my radios. You know, you really can
get there's times where I know I cannot even see
the signals on the UH band. Then you can steal
the computer's decoding it.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
It's there's there but the computer program combined with the
l TV program itself. Yeah, Joe Taylor w s J
T week signal Joe Taylor.

Speaker 7 (12:17):
That is an awesome suite of applications they wrote.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
And uh, let's don't leave out the fact that he
won a Nobel Prize for developing that software system and
gave it to the Amazur radio community.

Speaker 6 (12:32):
So he said the magic word. It's free and the
software is free. Equipment not so much. And of course
it takes the the nogging to make it work for us.
So that's an awesome story. I appreciate that talking with this.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
You interview me, all right, roll tide roll Uh you up, Mike.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
The role is next Saturday.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
So six meter ft eight is that a little unusual?

Speaker 6 (13:06):
I mean it's some of the distance he was talking
about is awesome. You just got to catch it right.
And I guess since the cycle twenty five is kicking
like we said, I mean, that's uh, that's.

Speaker 5 (13:17):
Not too many.

Speaker 6 (13:18):
There's not too many FTA contacts in my six meter
log at the moment.

Speaker 5 (13:21):
So yeah, unique.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
Well, I got a video here. This is from the
Icon Booth. You know, we always like to stop out
there and visit a little bit. I'm at the Icon
Booth of course, a Huntsville ham Fest. Ray you've lost
a little white Now raise out in Tokyo this weekend.

Speaker 8 (13:41):
Join the sushi and whatnot over in Japan at the
Tokyo Hamfest.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
I saw him on some posts he had done on
social media. Looks like he's having a good time out there.

Speaker 8 (13:51):
Dad. He looks like he does. It's youen a couple
of posts as well, posting.

Speaker 5 (13:56):
Was his sushi dinner?

Speaker 7 (13:58):
Yeah, yep, so that.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
And this is great Popovich k F two M. And
what do you do with dot Com?

Speaker 8 (14:07):
I work in the tech support department. I'm one of
the people that answer the phone you call up. I
specialize in the RSBO one product and LIMB mobile products,
and of course our IP products as well at the
VPG four and the IP radios.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
So have things been going are you? Do they have
gear and stock now? And is it everybody else?

Speaker 8 (14:33):
Everybody's going through shortages trying to get products from point
A to point B just like everybody else.

Speaker 7 (14:40):
Icon is just as affected. Now. We're trying our best.

Speaker 8 (14:43):
To get as much product over to the US as
quickly as possible. But again, you know, circumstances being as
they are, we have tough problems getting the products here.
So what would you say, I mean an I know
you're not necessarily amateur salesman. What would you say is

(15:04):
still are is the new? Whichever? What's the hottest product
you got going right now? Three hundred seventy three hundred
and the seven oh five they see to be the
hot product with Icon.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Really, people are grabbing onto the seven oh fives, Yes
they are.

Speaker 8 (15:20):
They like the low power for activations for Poda soda.
So it's quite popular radio along with the seventy three
hundred and the seventy sixteen as well. That's another popular
product di Com.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Yeah, I can see that seventy three hundred. It's been
years now that it's just just changed things.

Speaker 8 (15:41):
Yes, in twenty sixteen when that radio was released, it
was a game changer. It was the first SDR radio
released from I Comm and it just took off.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
Do you do any bench work there? Are you strictly
pretty tech support?

Speaker 8 (15:56):
Though I do have my own bench for testing products,
testing things like that. Occasionally I do some repairs for
the tech support equipment that's there in the New Jersey office,
which is where I work from.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
What's the next Hamfest.

Speaker 8 (16:13):
That I don't know for me, probably be Mollica Hill
in New Jersey, which is where I'm from. That's where
our Icon office is on the East Coast.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
I don't know if I saw you at Dayton this
year or not.

Speaker 7 (16:24):
It was there, Yeah, it was my first Dayton.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
What do you think?

Speaker 4 (16:29):
Uh?

Speaker 8 (16:30):
Boy, A little overwhelming at first Yeah, massive people, very
big Hamfest. Now I'm used to the Jersey ham Fest Light,
the Sussex Hamfests and Molica Hill, which are fairly large.
That was large at Huntsville, but Dayton was a whole
new experience.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
What do you think about Huntsville? Oh?

Speaker 7 (16:50):
Love it.

Speaker 8 (16:50):
People here are wonderful, very friendly. People really enjoy it here.
Everything's indoors too, that's true, that's true compared to day.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
What how much product do you use?

Speaker 7 (17:03):
Okay, icon products.

Speaker 8 (17:05):
Got a whole load of them, ninety one hundred seven
oh five of course, fifty one ah see what else?
T seven h seven thousand and a half in my jeep.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
I love seven thousand. I got two of them.

Speaker 8 (17:19):
Great radios, great radios, kicking enough of it.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Thanks for talking with us, Greg.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
It was good to meet you you George, and I
hope to see you well. It'd probably be Dayton next year.

Speaker 7 (17:31):
I never know, never know.

Speaker 8 (17:34):
It's wherever they asked me to go to.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Seven three seventy three.

Speaker 7 (17:38):
You take care.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Nice chatting with Greg there.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
Yeah, sounds like I may have talked to him on
the phone before.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
Possibly I remember seeing him at Dayton.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
Now you know that I'll talk with them there. I
remember seeing him there.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Uh yeah, ray Is. I don't know if he's back
in the country yet or not. I think they were
having a big time over there, and I think.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
I saw him. I think I saw he was at
the airport. Head to the airport to come back. Okay, cool, We're.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
Going to take a quick break and come right back cause,
uh we're not even halfway done yet.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
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Speaker 2 (21:07):
Is this an actual email?

Speaker 4 (21:09):
This is an email, not an email. You got an
email too right over here. Yeah, but we got an
email right here. Well this first of all, this is
from my friend Lee KB six l e E. It's
about Blue Eddy, my Blue Eddy device I used at

(21:30):
field day. So anyway says I'm a big fan of
a l t V. Thanks to you and George, Emil
and Mike for doing that. I'm wondering about using the
blue Dye B three A during field day. Did I
hear it going from a meal?

Speaker 7 (21:44):
Ha ha?

Speaker 4 (21:46):
But it's it is. It's old Man compliant, cheap old
Man compliant. Uh where did you get the connectors for
for the d C five five two one connectors.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Connections?

Speaker 4 (21:59):
I'm sorry, I can only find ones with pigtails that
are much too small for ten amp at twelve volts.
Seen connectors with screw lugs, but I can't find them anywhere.
It seems that screw lugs would allow twelve gauge wire,
which would be the right size for the task. How
did you connect the radio? As a side note, I'm
thinking of using the EB three A as a UPS

(22:19):
for my rig full time. Maybe these topics something you
can cover in future ALTV episode. By the way, would
you consider a side video from a viewer like me?
It was something like this, thanks for all you guys
put into this and have day jobs leave seventy three.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
KB six l ee.

Speaker 4 (22:41):
The connectors I used were the ones with the little
screw terminals on it, and I used it with my
seven O five, which doesn't draw near the ten amps
that radio that that device can put out on those
little coaxio connectors. I did look on Amazon for some
Originally I was gonna make some cables and I couldn't
find any I found these on eBay and I checked

(23:04):
for George where he gets his parts Parts Express I
think was one of them, and where was the other one, George.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Jamie Co Yeah, Jamie Coe.

Speaker 4 (23:14):
But I did see Parts Express as them for about
a dollar apiece. But I couldn't get him any time
for my segment and for a field day, so I
just used those little ones, which were plenty big enough
for power in that little seven O five. It doesn't
use much current at all.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
Yeah, I usually use the screw terminal ones these days.
I've got a few pigtails of the ones like you showed.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
They're in the photo.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
But screw terminal ones, you know, that's what they're using
on all these LED lighting projects and things. Uh huh,
So I figured they carry a little bit of current.
I don't know about ten apps. Yeah, I'm not sure
about ten amps. But the ones with the pigtails on
him like he's talking about, they're already made, like somebody

(24:02):
cut it off the end of the table and you
could just join the wires together. But I like the
ones like I just showed there. I used to get
those radio shake those were size in the Amazon Mike
I remember the size because I used to buy a
bunch of them, and I had not planned on mention it,
But now that you talked about that, I stopped by

(24:26):
the Bio n O booth there at Huntsville and salivated
over some of those batteries there.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Picked.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
I mean, they're about the same size as I would
expect for a battery with that current, but they're.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Much much lighter. Yeah, they're way nothing.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
And they had something there that's kind of like your
blue eddything, very similar to it, and I was quizzing the.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Guy about it.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
And it looked good and had to capacity the price
was it was, I guess not unreasonable for something like that,
but he kind of steered me towards some of their
other batteries and they said, for you know, Ham radio applications,
you know, we kind of prefer this these other batteries

(25:18):
over here.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
So I'm thinking the f for.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
You know, a high current key downs probably that those
type of batteries aren't necessarily but it's.

Speaker 4 (25:30):
Probably not ideal, depends on how much current. Now on
the seven oh five, it worked out just fine.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Be fine for that, but Hunter watt Rigg might be
a different story.

Speaker 4 (25:40):
Yeah, And as far as using it as a ups
It does have the functionality built in it switches, but
I've noticed when I played around with that light blinks.
You can see the flash, so I don't know if
the switch.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Is fast enough.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
Maybe I will do a segment on that experiment with that,
see what the delay is or something.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
Anyway, we're on a pretty good discount during the Amazon
Prime Day. Yeah, I would be on the lookout Friday
or Cyber Yeah.

Speaker 4 (26:13):
I'm really happy with mine, but also I like my
fifty ant battery that I made too.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
Yeah. I like your fifty ant battery that you made. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (26:23):
Other part of this question was about accepting the segments
viewers on that. We've done that in the past, so
would be open to looking at it. Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
I got an email. No, I don't. I've got a video.
I don't. I don't have an email. Do you make
a video of the email?

Speaker 4 (26:48):
No, No, it's not that, but it is a video
of someone you might recognize. Untle Hamfast is always a
good place to get together with a good friend, and
of course Richard Stubbs one of the best. Hey George,
good to see you, and Tommy again. Always a pleasure,
So Richard, how many years have you been with MFJ. Now,

(27:10):
this is thirty four years, I think, and I may
be adding one or two or subtracting one or two,
but yeah, I think it's been about that. And MFJ
has been around what fifty one, fifty two, fifty This
is the fifty first year that we're in now. We
just turned fifty last year, so that was nineteen seventy

(27:32):
two was when he started the business and still here.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Wow, that's that's quite a while.

Speaker 4 (27:41):
The younger people out there new Ham's may not know
what all MFJ does, But you've got two or three
products many can you just give us a brief idea
of Dennis Two or three products add up to about
two thousand products overall. But yeah, we're we're still making
the SWR analyzers, the manual tuners, the automatic tuners, the

(28:07):
SWR watt meters, the dummy loads, all the essential products
that you need to make up an amateur station for
testing or for tuning, or and antenna's galore. As you know,
we got a bunch of antenna's. You've put up a
few of them over your years, and of course had
a lot of fun doing it. A little comical video

(28:28):
you did with the black and white version was hilarious
and anyway, yeah, we came out with a new one.
Now this is gonna be fun because I'm gonna send
this back with Tommy. This reveals a little tuning chart
on the bottom of here. Let's see if we can
get this to come open right there. You add this

(28:49):
on here. You got forty through six meters. Hey, Jocelyn,
there's another weirdo. So we hang out with Yeah, that's
that's that. We we hang out with a lot of
guys that like to do the spot thing. And but anyway,
you set that up that could go forty through six
meters and it's a true PoTA antenna because it all

(29:12):
telescopes down. So and I hear Tommy does a lot
of that stuff, and it's collapsible. He can go in
his backpack and he can carry something out and set
up in antenna in seconds and be on the air.
So these things are going like hotcakes. So we're gonna
send Tommy back with one of these to play with.
What do those go for? One for a forty through

(29:33):
six meter vertical that's collapsible, truly portable, and I think
that's impressive. So yeah, it's it's so we still are
having a few new things come out. But you know,
MFJ has been around forever because most of the products
that you have over here are essential tools for the
ham radio station, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
So it's not just MFJ. Y'all are a group of companies.
You've got several others as well.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
Well. Ameritron still hanging in there. We got all the
solid state amps. People still buy two vamps to get
some real high power out on their stations. And then
of course we've got high gain rotators, vertical antennas, beam antennas.
We added Cushcraft, Mirage and Vectronics. We just got some
Mirage amps back in finally, two hundred WAT two meter

(30:23):
amps and sold two of them. I brought two of them,
we sold both of them, so evidently there's still a
need for that too as well.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Tuners were always a big thing with MFJ. Do y'all
still sell tuners.

Speaker 4 (30:35):
Right there behind you, George, there's all the manual tuners,
and then the next section over and then the automatic
tuners are still the rage. That nine three nine that
you advertise forever has been an awesome vehicle and super
fast nanosecond tuning and uh one to one point five
to one SWR in most cases.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
So yeah, very effective.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
One Ham past. Will you at this year? I know
you're here.

Speaker 4 (31:03):
Unfortunately the company decided not to do all the small
Hamfest anymore, which I loved. And as you and I know,
we got to eat crawfish together, we got to sing together.
You know, I think, no, you didn't join in on
the singing.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
That was Emmett. That was EMMITTT.

Speaker 4 (31:17):
Maybe Tommy did it. No, Jocelyn, Oh, Jocelyn's son did
it one time. Yeah, but anyway, Yeah, we've done a
few things that the smaller Hanfest you don't get to
do it Huntsville and Orlando and Dayton, but we just
do those three now. So you'll see us in February,
you'll see us in May, and you'll see us in August.
It's pretty good spacing, good good amount of time. It

(31:38):
gives us a chance to get everything ready and get
everybody trained and get going for it. So that's pretty awesome.
Product back in stock now, product back in stock. We're
starting to build stock. The amplifiers. I actually brought amplifiers
for the first time in almost three years, so we're
actually generating some stock now, whereas before you had to

(32:00):
order it and then get back ordered and wait for
a few months. But now it's starting to come around
very well.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
Richard.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
Always fun to catch up with you at these events,
and whenever we can, I need to make it up
starfle again.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
And you know, just just see what's going on.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
Yeah, we'd love to have you and Tommy back up.
Joslyn could make it, that would be even impressive. Also,
he needs to come down sometime. Yeah, he'll come down
for the Snipe Pump maybe.

Speaker 7 (32:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
You know, I talked to Mike Moreno just recently. He
put me in a He reminded me of your three
Amigo's picture, but he put me in uh. I forgot
what it was, but it was quite entertaining. That guy
is a good photoshop editor, so he's got a lot
of experience with it. You know, a lot of good
material to work with too, though, no doubt, no doubt,

(32:52):
especially with you guys. You can look good as three amigos,
that's for sure, all right, Richard, Great to see you again, man, George,
take care of yourself. I should have put the picture
of three amigos and had a little sparkle by the
teeth or something when he said that.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
Yeah, Mike, shout out on your photoshopping skills there.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
Yeah, I guess I've been become infamous if I wasn't already.

Speaker 6 (33:21):
I think every avatar I have on all my social
media something Mike did.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Yeah, that's great stuff, man.

Speaker 5 (33:28):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
Yeah, that three amigos was the one that started at all.
I don't know how old that one is, but it's
it was the first one really back in the Google
plus days.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
Wow, oh wow.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
And let's just be clear. You don't own photoshop.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
No, I don't own It's like Kleenex. Speaking of Kleenex,
Kleenex is pulling out of Canada. The announcement was made
I think yesterday. I guess the parent company, Kimbery kimber
to Lee Clerk, decided that they're not making enough money
and Canada is not a big enough market to.

Speaker 4 (34:09):
Make it with enough for any noses in Canada.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
Well that's that's what somebody said, and they said, oh yeah,
uh yeah, it's Kleenex, but we we have facial tissues.
It's one of those terms that everybody uses and it's
an actual brand. Yeah, I guess we'll have to start
calling it something else now.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Mike sent me this, and when I first saw the
title on it, I was thinking, uh, man, this sounds
kind of like a joke, because you know, right now,
they've got some fiber optic cables off of the coast
of Africa that were cut by falling rocks in in
the ocean. Really yeah, and they've got a ship over

(34:54):
there for paring them right now. So that's when Mike
sent me this post.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
Ride here.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
I was thinking it might have been related. Fiber optic
cables are natural earthquake detectors, but.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
No, that's not what it was about.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
Yeah, fiber optic cables make up a vast underground nervous
system that meets our growing demand for high speed internet
communication services. However, signals in the cables can occasionally suffer
vibrations from cars driving overhead, nearby construction, or even earthquakes.

(35:34):
I did not know that. Researchers have previously proposed harnessing
those convert the thousands of kilometers of underground cables into
sensitive seismic arrays. In a new study, researchers from the
California Institute of Technology show that fiber optic cables not
only detect quakes, they can measure nuances and complexities of

(35:58):
the seismic event as well. In one instance, using one
hundred kilometer stretch of cable, the researchers were able to
pinpoint the time and location of four smaller miniquakes that
made up a magnitude six earthquake. I have never thought
about that, but I guess, yeah, maybe the cables getting
bounced around.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
It's changing.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
He did, and they talked about that, I think in
another article that I read about that where they first
came up with the idea from cars driving over a
road where the fiber optic cables traveled underneath and they
were picking up the vibrations as the cars went across.

Speaker 6 (36:38):
Really wow, Yeah, I don't know, George, that story sounds
like it's on shaky groan.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
Could be.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
Yeah, give yourself a rim shot.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
It's the end of the first day here at Huntsville Hamfast. Well,
it's almost the end of it, standing here with part
of this year's posse.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Of course. Tommy.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
Hello, Yeah, I guess I'm part of the posse.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
You are, Yeah, so it's.

Speaker 7 (37:08):
Your camera and microphone?

Speaker 4 (37:11):
Well, here you're in the middle you hold the mic.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
Uh email.

Speaker 7 (37:15):
Of course, I'm the cheapest part of the posse for sure.

Speaker 4 (37:18):
So this year's howl, what did you you come along with?

Speaker 2 (37:24):
I'd say you got a big back there, you know.

Speaker 6 (37:30):
You know, George, I always try to renew my membership
with the able RL to keep things good with them,
and uh, it's kind of my expiration always falls around
this time, so it just kind of works out good
for me.

Speaker 7 (37:43):
But uh, as far as.

Speaker 6 (37:45):
The hall, I'm pretty sure I came away with the
cheapest hall, possibly because I needed a connector.

Speaker 7 (37:52):
There's a story here.

Speaker 6 (37:53):
This is an end connector to a BNC from a
receiver that I picked up for a five from a
state sale somewhere else in slide al, So you know
that's what I needed.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
So did you play more for the rig or for
the adapter?

Speaker 6 (38:11):
I think they're the same price, so I'm right on
par with being cheap all the way around.

Speaker 7 (38:16):
So three sixty cheapness right here?

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Okay, that works out. Of course.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
Our friend Jocelyn from up in the Cincinnati area, well,
I think you were here last year and we got together.

Speaker 8 (38:29):
Yeah, yeah, I was here last year. We talked a
little bit about Chris how he was doing. And I'm
here again this year with youth on the air to
promote the camp that we do every year to try
to keep the youth engage in amateur radio.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
And since since Chris and the youth weren't here this year,
we had to counsel the snipe hunt, it was gonna.

Speaker 4 (38:51):
Be kind of hot out there anyway. Yeah, anybody, okay,
So charncel in any purchases.

Speaker 8 (39:06):
Yes, buy Ino battery three EMP hours for my KX
two so I can do more parts on the air.
And then at eighteen ninety eight we just saw in
m FJ and then what was the other thing?

Speaker 3 (39:21):
Renewed my membership like Emil because mine.

Speaker 7 (39:23):
Falls in October.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
So I'm good. That was about it.

Speaker 8 (39:26):
And something zip zip cord for my solar pants. Okay,
not too bad if you don't count the membership.

Speaker 7 (39:33):
It was pretty cheap.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
Well, I about some flea market stuff. I'm trying to
think of what it was. I did buy.

Speaker 4 (39:42):
About two little UTC audio transformers and there goes Charlie
Wooton there it is probably saw him inform Yeah, I
bought two little UTC audio transformers that paide a bus.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
A piece for them.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
Those things on e Bay probably selled thirty or forty
dollars a piece, so I felt good about that.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
E milk good, that's good.

Speaker 4 (40:10):
And I bought something else and I can't remember what
it was.

Speaker 7 (40:16):
Component tester.

Speaker 4 (40:17):
Oh yeah, I bought one of those little It was
a fish eighty eight something. I think a component tester. Yeah,
we've sewn him before. I've got one, but I keep
telling my son about it, and he works on some
guitar amplifiers and things from time to time, and I've

(40:38):
been trying to explain to him what it is where
you can get it. Some guy was settling him for
nineteen bucks with a case and all here, so I
just bought him one of those.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
So, Tommy, what did you get?

Speaker 4 (40:51):
I had a shopping list this time. I had one
thing on it, heat shrink tubing, and I bought some
heat shrink tubing for a total of five dollars. So
I'm never in a neck and neck with the cheap
old man. I think I'm gonna just consider myself a
princess here pretty soon, trying. Yeah, that's good there. I

(41:15):
might buy something else. I've got to go look at
those bioin old batteries. I forgot about that. I kind
of want to just I don't know.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
I'm ready to spring, but I need to look.

Speaker 7 (41:25):
You need to look.

Speaker 8 (41:27):
The show special is pretty decent. Free charger batteries are
about what they sell.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
Into note new shipping said, I'm com back.

Speaker 8 (41:37):
I've had one for eight years and I got a
new one and then I'm getting my third one.

Speaker 7 (41:42):
So good product.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
You as your one's still good.

Speaker 7 (41:46):
It's still working.

Speaker 8 (41:47):
It used to be twelve amps, it's probably about ten
now ten and a half, but it's guided cycles. It's
going through a lot of stuff, but it still works
like a chance. So it gets me on the air
one hundred watts about one hundred wats for about an
hour and a half two hours, depending on hacktave.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
I am so Saturday at a huntsle halmfast.

Speaker 4 (42:12):
Huh.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
What do you think this year?

Speaker 7 (42:13):
Huh?

Speaker 1 (42:14):
How are we looking attendance wise and quality wise?

Speaker 6 (42:18):
So I'm always loving those flea market tables. And I
did find a few tables that had the magic numbers
on them, if any numbers at all, And you'll see
some of that in some of the photographs I took.

Speaker 7 (42:34):
But I do kind of have a pre confession. You know,
I'm kind of holding out right now.

Speaker 6 (42:39):
Gigaparts has a really good display of how headsets back there,
and I almost pulled the trigger on one from my
nine ninety one go box that I'm made the cheap
old go box.

Speaker 7 (42:51):
And they didn't have the adapted cable for.

Speaker 6 (42:55):
The RJA forty five connector the modular connector it's for
the cable, so they didn't quite pull with sugar.

Speaker 7 (43:00):
But something tells me it might happen. It might not
be cheap old man complaint, but it might happen.

Speaker 4 (43:07):
Well, box, what people a man complaint to start with.
You can call it the cheap box because you put
the sticker on it, But I don't think it was cheap,
true true that kid to night. Everybody I've talked to
here said it's good crowd this year.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
If they have been impressed with it.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
Yeah, I would tend to agree. It's been a decent crowd.
So I'm gonna be back here tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
There's a lot of people, a lot of friends around here.
We've seen Don Wilbanks today, We've seen Ted Randall, just
saw Charlie Wooton.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
Wayne KG five R is here. Somewhere.

Speaker 4 (43:46):
We turned him out this morning and this, Yeah, we
don't know where he is. Well, he's around here somewhere. Uh,
Chip Kate on m I t is is here somewhere.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
I still not met Chip.

Speaker 4 (43:59):
So maybe you back in the morning, and I'm back
here tomorrow till about you and and then we're gonna see.

Speaker 5 (44:08):
You all on movies Day.

Speaker 8 (44:11):
Oh so they're still tomorrow. The night is fairly young. Nice,
exactly right. Took it from the master there.

Speaker 4 (44:23):
Well, you know a lot of other friends and people
we've seen here today as well. Some we know we're here,
but we just haven't run across from yet.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
They're hiding pretty good.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
They are. Uh tell me you want to do the rap? Well, no,
I'm not gonna do that.

Speaker 4 (44:44):
Yeah, I have gonna break something, all right, it's fun.
It was penny fun Hanfest. I'm I'm gonna have to
go back home this evening unfortunately, So you guys, uh
get over for me tomorrow. You've seen any good deals,
cheap deals?

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Remember me.

Speaker 4 (45:02):
Five dollars worth of hate strinth that you hadn't been
to a big ham fest? And how many years since
before COVID whenever that was BC. We've got a little
we've got a little wall here. Yet we've we've got
to do an intervention.

Speaker 6 (45:21):
I think, definitely an intervention, although I don't think I'm
gonna be able to pull any triggers on my side
because tomorrow we're gonna go over to the I'm gonna
take Peter's advice and head over to the Rocket Museum
because I've never been. My dad's here with me, so
we're gonna head over that way and see.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
It's incredible.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
Yeah, that's all we have to say about that fault.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
That's all, Folks, top the mic.

Speaker 7 (45:49):
Don't please don't drop that one. That one's mine.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
Fun times.

Speaker 4 (45:56):
Oh yeah, that's great. Chip's pretty pretty elusive.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
Man.

Speaker 4 (45:59):
I tried to fund Chip again, but I never did
run across him. Yeah, I'd like to see him one
more time.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
Speaking speaking of confessions, I have a confession to make.
I was feeling sorry for myself because I wasn't at
the hand bench, and so I got online onto Amazon
and I picked up this really cool battery pack. It's

(46:26):
a life po battery pack six ampower oh no, and
it output twelve vaults at five amps, so it should
be good for my little portable rig nice. It also
puts nine volts and as well as five vaults.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
So is it cause compliant?

Speaker 3 (46:46):
I would say so, considering its slave Powe batteries in there.
I think all in all it was about fifty six
bucks Canadian.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
I thought that was pretty good.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
That's about forty The chargers.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
Nice, that's nice.

Speaker 4 (47:04):
I looked at those back when we were using the
wireless mics that we were hauling the big receiver box
around with. I was looked at getting one of those
the power of my receiver.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (47:16):
So anyway, that was fun meeting up with everybody anyway
while we were h probationation.

Speaker 5 (47:27):
Oh not quite double double, that's it.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
It's not even secret, so hardly a threat.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
It's not a secret when they make a sign for it.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
Oh no, I bought a few things there. I told
you about my experience with the ten dollars left your
only monster earbuds. That was gonna be my deal there.
Man just didn't pan out.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
So I chunked them. Well they were across complying.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
Well they were, but you know, if you just put
one in your left here, you're just gonna walk in circle.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
So yeah, I.

Speaker 7 (48:08):
Saw it.

Speaker 6 (48:09):
I saw Wayne walk right past the camera before you
said that about Wayne.

Speaker 5 (48:14):
Yeah, you walked right past.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (48:16):
Well I did get a couple of other things though this. Well,
you know I've typically uh I'll say typically no, because
I've got an nice Comet antenna on my pickup, But
on my Explorer, I've got a cheaper.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
Tram antenna or Browning or MFJ or the dual band
antennas that everybody's got that looks the same. I've got
got one of those of my Explorer, and I typically
use one of the cheaper metal magnetic h antennamounts for it.

(48:56):
And you know, they good magnane in it, they hold good,
they work well, but they were rushed after two or
three years. So I just happened to run by this.
I know my comment, the one I've got on my truck.
It is not an n M I wits takes an
so two thirty nine screw into. So I had to
buy the Comet mount and I like it. And it's plastic.

(49:19):
I found one for an M and O mount.

Speaker 4 (49:22):
There.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
This is a Comet one, plastic tops, got rubber rim
around it. You know, it's sailed on the bottom. Yeah,
it's a little more than the than the cheap ones.
Not real expensive though, but I got that.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:42):
I remember we always poking fun at Tommy for not
wanting to drill that hole of the the NMO mounting.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
Yeah, well I'm emailing. I'm about to totally redeem myself.
I don't know, no, no, no, no, it's not too
late because I made another purchase.

Speaker 6 (50:08):
You know.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
I walked through the flea market and I came up
with a little purchase.

Speaker 4 (50:15):
Here.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
These are UTC brand audio transformers and six hundred I
believe these are six hundred and six hundred dollars, so
good for lyne oscillation. They're used in a lot of
audio gear, and UTC is a reputal brand. I bought
these for a dollar apiece. I got because I knew

(50:41):
they were worth more than that. I got home and
did a little searching on eBay. Found somebody on there
selling them for ninety nine dollars apiece. So you need
to take my name off of that list, all right.

Speaker 5 (50:57):
I crossed it out. I wrote the way you do that.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
Before you do that, we should ask George if you
put at least a continuity tester across the primaries or
the secondary.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
Oh, I haven't checked I'm sure they work though, and
I will get around to checking them. But I've got
some others of these, and I've got some others at
C Brent. I've got that's like a fetish there. I
collect good quality audio transformers. You never know when you're

(51:33):
gonna need one.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
And yeah, that's the first time I've seen one package
like that. It reminds me of the the ballast starters
off of Fluorescent.

Speaker 4 (51:44):
Yes, that's what it looks like if you don't have
the two little, yeah, little terminals on the end of it.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
Yeah, but yeah, it looks it looks.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
Somebody did they started a couple of wires onto.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
I don't think so when they hooked us up. This
is going to be really funny.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
They're hard to find, so you know, if you think
you might need some of these in the future, like
if you're going to be hooking an external mixer to
your hammer egg, you may want one of those, check
the ham Fest. I always look around, and I bought
a number of them at ham Fast, but you don't
see them that much anymore.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
Get some here for ninety eight dollars. Yep.

Speaker 5 (52:28):
Yeah, a pair that made a business man like the
way you think comy.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
We got one more video from Huntsville. What is this Tom? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (52:40):
We uh, we were hanging around there and I was
trying to find him earlier, but we ran across Mark Brown,
he's the chairman of the Huntsville Hamfist and had got
to chat with him for just a few minutes. Well,
we ran into our friend Mark here. You're the chairman
of the Huntsville Hamfest. We had you on here last
year for a few minutes. It's good to see you again.

Speaker 9 (52:57):
It's good to have a few minutes. It's been a
very busy day so far, but very good.

Speaker 4 (53:01):
Yeah, you've been a busy man. We tried to catch
you earlier and you were just buzzing all over the place.

Speaker 9 (53:06):
No difficulties, but you know, just logistics issues. Little things.
Here guy left his his coupons, his prize coupons at
the hotel room. But he's wearing a hat with his
with his call sign on it. We gave him the prizes.
Well that's a right little things. I mean, if that's
the biggest problem we have on a ham on a
busy hamp Fest weekend, we're doing good.

Speaker 7 (53:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (53:28):
Yeah, So speaking of busy, it's kind of thinned out
a little bit, which is almost the end of the day.
It was kind of normal for any hampfists, but it
was really packed in here earlier today.

Speaker 7 (53:37):
What do you think about the.

Speaker 9 (53:38):
Attendance since we since we expanded into this entire South Hall.
None of us on the committee have a really good
feel for what the numbers are. Maybe it feels about
like last year, maybe a little better. So last year
we had about fifty four to twenty twenty, maybe a
little better this year. Well, we'll know in about a
week and a half when we count and verify the

(53:59):
attention it's numbers.

Speaker 4 (54:00):
Yeah, that wouldn't be a bit surprised if you was
a little bit more. I know that the flea market
area in the back was just absolutely backed.

Speaker 7 (54:08):
Came from there.

Speaker 9 (54:09):
The flea market is still very vibrant, and I'm encouraging
all those flea market vendors to sell their stuff because
we help folks move in and move out. If they
sell that stuff, we don't have to help move it out.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
It's where you're coming from.

Speaker 9 (54:26):
Yeah, but it's a good problem to have. It's there's
just a good vibe in the room today, similar to
post COVID. If you remember that people are excited to
be here and we're just we're just alighted to have everyone.

Speaker 4 (54:41):
Yeah, we're all glad to be here. It's been a
great hand best as always. Unfortunately, I'm gonna have to
head back tonight, but GEORGI will be here tomorrow for
a while.

Speaker 9 (54:48):
Yeah, this Youth Lounge just continues to astound me that
the popularity and the number of kids going through the
Youth Lounge. One of the things we started new this
year let the Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts in uniform
come in free. We didn't really advertise it because we
just decided kind of at the last minute. We thought
we would have between two and five Radio Merit Badge

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kids come in here. Twenty seven registered twenty three I
think showed up for the Radio Merit Badge session and
so we're very excited about that. We need more young
people in the hobby and that's that's a great step
in that direction.

Speaker 4 (55:27):
Oh yeah, that's that's a great source in New Hams
for sure. Yeah, and I failed to say your calls
an n for a CBD mark DD Anyway, appreciate hospitality.
It's been world's friendliest Hamfest. It's the mantra.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
That's our trademark and we try to live by that.

Speaker 7 (55:47):
Yeh, it's it's very true.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
It's very true.

Speaker 9 (55:49):
Thomas and George. Thank you for having me on the show.
And we'll see you back next here.

Speaker 5 (55:53):
Here next year.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
Oh absolutely, we'll be here.

Speaker 7 (55:54):
Good to talk to you. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
I studied in the Embassy Suites this year, which is
cann to the Von Bron Center. I pulled my car
in Friday afternoon late, I parked it. The only time
I left the building is Wayne and.

Speaker 4 (56:12):
I walked over Friday night to a pizza place that
was just, you know, a couple of blocks away from
the ron Bron Center and had a pizza and then
I didn't move my car.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
We just walked there.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
Then I stayed inside the complex there for the whole
show and didn't leave till Sunday afternoon. So I pretty
much could have stayed in air conditioning through the whole weekend,
oh man, except except to walk over there for the pizza.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
And it wasn't really that hot there, so.

Speaker 4 (56:43):
Oh yeah, it wasn't yours hot over there as it
is here.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
No email.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
You kind of hinted earlier that there was a reason
that your father came with you this year to Huntsville.

Speaker 6 (56:58):
There is a reason, and that reason is the Rocket
Museum over there. I've never been, never went, I can't
say that anymore. And I got to go with the
pots on it. So got quite a bit of a
bit of pictures here. So yeah, this is a screen

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that was in front of the planetarium show for the
space telescope that's out sitting out there at L two
and lots of Apollo and other rockets sitting out there.
You can't quite understand the scale of this until you
see them person. You see the people down there at
the bottom.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
Yeah, well yeah, and you can see it coming down
the interstate and you've got an idea of the scale,
then yes, yeah.

Speaker 5 (57:48):
You can't quite miss this.

Speaker 7 (57:49):
Yep.

Speaker 6 (57:50):
There's quite a few different rockets sitting out there in
the fields that you can walk right up to. And
of course if you walk right up to them, you
can't see them.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
Yeah with the camera.

Speaker 5 (58:01):
Saw took that one from pretty far away.

Speaker 6 (58:04):
But this center is a NASA center, of course, it's
one of their official visitor centers like we have down here.

Speaker 7 (58:12):
And there.

Speaker 6 (58:13):
It is the US Space and Rocket Center. Now, some
people might look at this. Let me ask you all
a question. There's a few of these photos if you
want to go through them, But what what plane is this? Uh,
Tommy or George or you would you would think that,
wouldn't you, But it's not.

Speaker 7 (58:32):
This is the faster one. Oh did you know that? No?

Speaker 4 (58:37):
I did not know that time, never knew the SR
one was slow, exactly.

Speaker 6 (58:45):
But this is basically the CIA's model of this one,
which was the A twelve ox cart.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
Is that the one right outside of the entrance.

Speaker 5 (58:55):
Yes, yeah, that's a pretty sleek look from the back there, man.

Speaker 4 (59:00):
So that's an awesome looking machine right there. Bron, It's
like they fired it up.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (59:09):
I think I remember reading somewhere.

Speaker 6 (59:11):
It was flying around ninety thousand feet most of the time,
and no weapons of course, mainly.

Speaker 5 (59:18):
Fuel, camera and faster. Yeah exactly. That's the part that
got me faster than SR seventy. Like wait a minute, what.

Speaker 6 (59:33):
Yeah, that little cone there modifies the air going into it.
Now when you first walk into the place, there's a
bunch of artifacts. They are really interesting history and pieces parts.
This is like a moon drink.

Speaker 5 (59:45):
I didn't know there was.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
One, but moon sauce.

Speaker 6 (59:48):
It's moon sauce just in case something went wrong. I
had sauce, and there you go. This is a modern
space toilet. Looks pretty accommodating.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
Wait a minute, it looks like the vent off on RV.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Yeah, I think I wait till I get home or
Wi Fi hotspot.

Speaker 5 (01:00:09):
It's an ap I get it.

Speaker 7 (01:00:11):
I get it.

Speaker 4 (01:00:12):
I've got one of those Wi Fi penel Antennis like
that my ship.

Speaker 5 (01:00:18):
Apparently.

Speaker 6 (01:00:19):
I'm thinking some people are gonna be eating bugs because
this show was a lot of insect stuff in this
main entrance in the rocket center. I don't know what
that's all about, but maybe in Mars we're gonna be
eating bugs maybe and growing hydroponics here that had some
hydroplonics towers there.

Speaker 7 (01:00:41):
And landing there you go.

Speaker 6 (01:00:43):
I think this is the one that they're sending back
artimis right, and I think this is the one that
people are taking rides on now into space, if I'm
not mistaken, or maybe this was forget what exactly its
boeings by the one that they were met up with
up there. Oh yeah, it's kind of like without it's

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out a shell, but that's what it looks like underneath
the ULA program. Different rockets this is right as you
walk in all the newer tech that I believe that's
the SLS stuff where they're launching all sorts of things.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
Yeah, there's some stuff. This is new stuff. I haven't seen.
Some of this has been there since I've been there.
I think last time I went was probably.

Speaker 6 (01:01:28):
So here we now here, we're getting into the big
hall the Apollo. You can see the engines up to
the left there. But that rocket is one of von
Bron's first types, the V two right well in Germany,
I want to say, they so this this is an
interesting story something I learned. That's the actual bike that
von Braun surrendered, I believe to the Russians on. That's

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the little white flag there and he rode up to
him and surrendered and wind up in the United States eventually.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
And I thought you were going to say that's the
one at at.

Speaker 4 (01:02:03):
Yeah, there's there's no basket on the pay that's.

Speaker 5 (01:02:07):
Right, Elliott. It's not Elliott's. That's mom Bronze. And there
you go.

Speaker 6 (01:02:11):
Some of the capsules from before the Apollo missions. What
was it Mercury and what was the one before or
after Mercury? Uh Gemini maybe yeh might have might have
those crossed, but anyway, they had some. They were showing
us how cramped it was in there for these guys.
There you go, there's a mercury things where they were

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working on that escape top rocket at the top. There
you see a little tower, yeah, and also cramp. There's
our tour guide there showing us the ropes and showing
us how crypt up it is, and just the.

Speaker 5 (01:02:47):
Size in general.

Speaker 6 (01:02:49):
Another one a two seater there right, it's got two
people in there. And this is a smaller like a
mock up leave of the Apollo one side, and right
above it is the actual thing.

Speaker 5 (01:03:02):
And there there you go.

Speaker 6 (01:03:05):
You don't want to be anywhere near this when things happen,
for sure, But the scale of this doesn't do it justice.

Speaker 5 (01:03:12):
It's amazing to see this in person.

Speaker 6 (01:03:14):
Yeah, And there's all the pieces parts in the different
stages towards the bottom.

Speaker 5 (01:03:23):
Mostly fuel.

Speaker 6 (01:03:25):
They were given us some numbers that pretty much blew
my mind on the rates of how much fuel it burns,
how fast, and how much weight it loses in the
first few forty.

Speaker 5 (01:03:34):
Miles or so.

Speaker 6 (01:03:36):
This is just a model mockup of it, and the
actual thing is above us. So he walked us through
each of these stages. Again, most of it's fuel, some
jet fuel, some hydrogen, oxygen, you name it. And these
parts are those towards the end or the bottom of
the rocket. And then another stage you can see. These

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are smaller engines, even though it's still huge in person.
And you can see those little i think those little
pods the round spears there. They use different fuel for
each stage and different things to stabilize or keep it cold,
and also nitrogen, I want to say, to do some
other things here.

Speaker 5 (01:04:16):
So pretty interesting stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:04:18):
And finally, going up towards the top, you got one
engine and some more of those spears.

Speaker 5 (01:04:24):
You can see it, you know, probably from seeing the videos.

Speaker 6 (01:04:26):
And and here's an interesting picture of the module right
before the lunar module at the very top of the rocket.
This is what controls the whole thing and synchronizes everything
and gyroscope and computer.

Speaker 5 (01:04:40):
It's got its own little module. There you go.

Speaker 6 (01:04:42):
You can see a little bit closer picture of that ring.
There's some amazing stuff happening with some efficient operation and code.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
There's a minimal computer power too.

Speaker 5 (01:04:56):
Yeah, then you'll see that a little bit later.

Speaker 7 (01:04:59):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
Yeah, I think I'll see a UTC audio transformer, only you.

Speaker 5 (01:05:04):
Pulled it off with here George, and there's the very top.

Speaker 6 (01:05:07):
This is the part they come back home in right
if you look at it, and it still has the
escape thing on it, just in case something goes wrong.
And on the floors as you're walking under it, they
show you where all the different landings were, So there
you go. Mike has that picture behind him as well,
including the new stuff from all the.

Speaker 3 (01:05:27):
Blue dots are the actual manned mission landings.

Speaker 5 (01:05:31):
So pretty neat. So here's the actual one. I forget
which mission it was. Apollo? Was there a sixteen? I
want to say, that's what I remember him saying.

Speaker 3 (01:05:40):
There was an Apollo sixteen. I think that was the
last one.

Speaker 6 (01:05:44):
Actually, Yeah, so this is one of the actual Apollos missions.
And they can see the parachute there behind it, and
pretty hefty mechanical devices here, and that's the door to it.
How to get a close up of some of the
stuff that this one had door, that's amazing. As a joke,
the tour guide asked us all, you know, hey, what

(01:06:04):
do y'all think happened here? And we all of course said, oh,
it must have burned up in re entry. He says, no,
we dropped it when we brought it here. Great, So
the scarring is definitely the burning, but the big missing part.
So there's a moon rock, the one of the actual
moon rocks they brought back, and different parts of the

(01:06:30):
space suit. At first, I thought this was all the
different you know, different types of suits.

Speaker 5 (01:06:36):
No, this is one suit. They custom made these suits
for each person, and it.

Speaker 6 (01:06:40):
Has layers upon layers upon equipment on top of those layers.

Speaker 5 (01:06:45):
So this is one suit. Everything you see there for
one extra.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
The left one looks like the Lost and spacesuits. Yep,
it does.

Speaker 6 (01:06:54):
Oh and they had some really neat control systems displays
there you go rescue when they have to fish them
out ocean because they love landing them in oceans.

Speaker 4 (01:07:03):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:07:04):
Yeah, that looked like a life sized version of the
Most Trapped game.

Speaker 5 (01:07:08):
I don't know what this is.

Speaker 6 (01:07:11):
Okay, the lunar module Okay, Yeah, they simulated a lot
of things for them here on Earth, and.

Speaker 5 (01:07:19):
That's one of them. And there you go. Y'all might
recognize some of these for you campers out there.

Speaker 7 (01:07:24):
But the.

Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
Wasn't that Wait a minute, wasn't that in Spaceballs?

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
That wasn't it the air stream?

Speaker 6 (01:07:37):
Right when they came back, they were worried about viruses, right,
so they quarantined the astronauts.

Speaker 5 (01:07:43):
And this is what they did.

Speaker 6 (01:07:44):
They were building all those airstreams from all the leftover
planes from World War Two, and this is what they
used as a quarantine when they got back.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (01:07:52):
And you can see there there's just some thanks, there's
some audio equipment for you, George.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
Yeah. It looks like it's either a Sonia or rants yep.

Speaker 5 (01:08:02):
And some of the crew quarters in it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
Yeah, they didn't have this when I last time I
visited there.

Speaker 5 (01:08:08):
There it is, y'all remember Skylab? Yeah, oh yeah, they
got a full one of mock up here.

Speaker 6 (01:08:16):
I don't think there's anything left of some of them.
And you'll see why a little bit later.

Speaker 4 (01:08:20):
Here.

Speaker 6 (01:08:20):
This is the inside of Skylab. I said, man, that
looks like a dentist chair. He the tour guy told us,
they uh, just really spun him around in here to
see what effects or gravity. I don't know exactly what
they were doing, but that was an interesting look inside
of the skylab. That's looking up inside of the skylab
and inside of it. Yep, that's not a toilet either.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
That's a shower.

Speaker 5 (01:08:47):
Maybe so.

Speaker 7 (01:08:50):
So.

Speaker 6 (01:08:50):
I don't think the Skylab was up there too long.
And this is what's left of what came back down.

Speaker 4 (01:08:56):
Yeah, it burned up coming back down, didn't it.

Speaker 6 (01:08:59):
Yeah, you remember that, and this piece of it crashed
in Australia and Australia find NASA for littering.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
Wow big A little.

Speaker 5 (01:09:13):
Yes, I think it was like five hundred bucks or
something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
Now, were these at the ham Fast No?

Speaker 6 (01:09:21):
No, these I can't describe the scale of this, but
it went all the way to the ceiling.

Speaker 5 (01:09:25):
These are huge. Not not for sale, I don't think.

Speaker 6 (01:09:29):
And lots of engines. There's lots of rocket engines there,
mockups and things if you want to see them. Of course,
there's plenty there to see. In the model of the
Space Shuttle here that was pretty big too. Some of
neat pictures there of some of the bolts for the
launch pad. And speaking of the computer, here is the
computer on the Apollo in that ring. There's some tech

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on there that I found interesting. That's actually a computer
or a module unit. And the gyros scopes some of
those connectors. Man, look at us, and there's some memory
there's a there's a memory circuit, an entire one what
was it one hundred k They had a uh that
that other piece that you saw was one hundred k

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of ram by the way, and this is where you
can look in real close. Had if they had a
little magnifying glass, which I don't think came out too
well in the photograph.

Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
You can see the little toroidspell.

Speaker 6 (01:10:27):
Yeah, exactly, they were loot. It's all a loop matrix.
There you go one hundred and fourteen k y'all bits,
and there's there's another mock up of that ring right
outside of that computer. They actually go through it pretty
much in pretty detail, and you this is pretty cool.

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You know how the swing out arms where you see
him swinging out to the launch pad did give They
let you walk on it, uh, So you can actually
see what it's like to h what they saw as
they're walking up to this thing. And that's them at
the end of that platform getting ready to get onto
the spacecraft.

Speaker 5 (01:11:07):
They got a bunch of people they are getting them ready.

Speaker 6 (01:11:09):
And one of my favorites are a replica of the
lunar rover because I don't think they took it back right.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
Yeah, yeah, they left them up there. What I understood, kind.

Speaker 6 (01:11:20):
Of hard to drive them back. No bridge some Inntennas,
I take it. Yeah, that might be VHF or UHF
or HF.

Speaker 5 (01:11:27):
What's you think.

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
I think it's a medium medium. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
It looks like a delta loop of some kind.

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
Nay mail you since you work in sort of in
the Spice program. Why gold? Why do they have a
gold for a home there?

Speaker 5 (01:11:46):
I'm thinking in uh, you know, I have no idea
that's good enough.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
It costs more than silver.

Speaker 7 (01:11:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
Yeah, that's an enormous clock.

Speaker 3 (01:11:58):
Answer about that foil because I made a model when
I was a kid of the lunar Lander and it
had this gold tinfoil stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:12:09):
Lots of different artifacts here, all the missions patches and
peoples and yep, the little board of actual flight paths
and there there was one in a lunar Lander. You
could actually land it here. It was like a computer
I similar simulation.

Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:12:26):
They got one of those down to Stinnis Space Center
and I tried.

Speaker 6 (01:12:30):
It's it's hard to see the scale of this man.
No matter how you take that picture, you can't get
it all in.

Speaker 5 (01:12:37):
It's huge.

Speaker 3 (01:12:38):
That is that the Saturn five about overhead, Yes.

Speaker 5 (01:12:43):
The real yes, with all its stages and it goes
all the way to the end of everything. I just.

Speaker 6 (01:12:51):
All the stages, all the engines. Give you a look
inside out. I thought that was a neat story. Some
of those engines. Those cones are actually coolant. It's coolant
running through them, right, those tubes you just see if
it's kind of made of them.

Speaker 5 (01:13:04):
Yeah, monster rocket engines. There you go.

Speaker 6 (01:13:09):
That's a good view of that one of the Saturn
five or the end inside of don't want to be
on that side.

Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
Now that's a robot from Lost in Space.

Speaker 5 (01:13:23):
It's for Robby the engine. And then outside too there
was stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:13:29):
It's like somewhat compression or high compression fans for jet
engines or or rocket engines.

Speaker 5 (01:13:38):
I didn't climb on it.

Speaker 6 (01:13:41):
And this was this is moving into another exhibit they had.
It's the control room they had set up and uh,
it's for the basically like different modules of the space
station that you see in now some of the food
at the bottom there and pass that up in their
menus and what they ate and what they eat. No crickets,

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I don't think you.

Speaker 3 (01:14:05):
Have a drink a tang when you were there.

Speaker 5 (01:14:07):
No, they had they had the space drinks and the
freeze dried everything. But I didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
I was going to say that looks like a duplexer,
but it's not.

Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
No, that's actually a year in process.

Speaker 6 (01:14:20):
Yes, this is they drink their own Yes, pea from
the AP you saw earlier that one. Yes, this is
AP without the p and that's I think that's the
quarters where somebody lives, works and a view of you.
I think a lot of us have seen some of
these pictures of the guys standing in there and ladies

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and you know they they have a speed limit apparently,
lots of control pieces parts. I guess that's the uh
AN arm And here you go, George. This was one
of my favorite things. I had to picket just to
see all the different type of connectors. And one wonder
who's got adapters for all these things?

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
Yeah, that's like military.

Speaker 3 (01:15:07):
To have the solder of those forty pin connectors make cables.
There were a lot of fun I'm not sure what
this was from robots. The fucking it was in there.

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
It's like really short judging by the fate down there.

Speaker 5 (01:15:24):
Oh that's my shoes the reflection okay, and.

Speaker 7 (01:15:31):
There you go.

Speaker 5 (01:15:31):
This is like the modules. This is what we were
just walking through. You can see it from the outside.
Different modules that make the old stuff up.

Speaker 6 (01:15:39):
And and here's the UH the the boosters and the
UH tanks solid rocket fuel panks that they make down
here in now lends down at the Mishoot facility back
when the only thing is the space shuttle was missing. Yeah,
it's usually it's usually on top of it, but I
think they must have it down doing something some where. Yeah,

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I think this is one of their trainers where they
they have controls that are similar in it and pilot's flying.

Speaker 5 (01:16:15):
And there it is then a little mockup of a
landing strip with another one of the trainers to the left.

Speaker 4 (01:16:19):
There.

Speaker 3 (01:16:20):
I was gonna say, that's pretty short runway.

Speaker 6 (01:16:23):
Yeah, it was just a mock up. And that was
that a great time and my dad really enjoyed seeing that.
I think he took more pictures than I did.

Speaker 4 (01:16:32):
Yeah, it's a pretty awesome place to check that out.

Speaker 3 (01:16:35):
If I ever get to Huntsville.

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
You'll get there one day.

Speaker 6 (01:16:40):
So the last the last piece of that was a
hour long narrated show from uh NASA on the James
Webb Space Telescope. I don't know if you guys have
ever been to this planetarium at this place, but it's phenomenal. Yeah,
you was like probably bigger than what we're used to

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in imax theaters. It's huge, and it's all the way
around you with extreme stadium seating. But the way they
give you this information. It just started this one, I
think with the James Webb Telescope show. It's worth seeing.

Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
Did you see the dive tank?

Speaker 5 (01:17:20):
No? I saw. I thought things about it at the
ticket thing, but we did not see that.

Speaker 4 (01:17:26):
Oh, it's really cool. It's over near the cafeteria area. Okay,
so it's it's really cool. They've filmed some movies in there. Anyway,
it's really neat neat stuff. And Neil I have been there,
it's been a few years.

Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
Wayne and I went one year and it was like
they were about to close, so we just got in
kind of like at the last minute, and we really
didn't have a tour guide.

Speaker 2 (01:17:50):
We just kind of got to wander around and looked
for a little while. We went.

Speaker 4 (01:17:55):
We went and spent the whole day there and went
to uh we went to a movie in there, and uh,
I think they moved into the planetarium stuff and everything
went out. There was a little area with rides out back.
I don't know if that's still there, but we did
through all that stuff, every everything, we did, every edge

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of it.

Speaker 3 (01:18:16):
Kind of a theme forming here because I don't know
if any of you have been to the National Aerospace
Museum in Dayton, Ohio, but it seems wherever these big
hamfests are, there's always a great display of either rockets
or aircraft. And for those who've never been to the
National Aerospace Museum and you're really missing out, you need

(01:18:41):
almost two days to see everything. They have an IMAX theater.

Speaker 4 (01:18:44):
I went to the space thing in Smithsonian.

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
It was really cool. Join us.

Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
Wow, when is it going to be? I get I
guess maybe next weekend is the next Ham College That
would be right on time. September the first, so.

Speaker 3 (01:19:00):
Yeah, to get everything back on schedule. Yeah, so the
next amateur logic is probably his fifteenth of September.

Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
That sounds about right.

Speaker 1 (01:19:13):
So y'all join us then for those two and thanks
for everyone watching the night and all of you who
are gonna watch once this is posted. Any final thoughts tonight.

Speaker 4 (01:19:26):
Yeah, don't forget to join us. For the Logic Net
Tuesday night at eight o'clock. Okay, so anyway, thanks to
Tom for putting that on. I think Marty maybe one
of the net controls. I'm not sure about the second one,
but anyway, the usual places.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
So anyway, check that out.

Speaker 4 (01:19:46):
We always send the notice out or actually Tom's been
sending it out right before the net too, for a reminder.

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
So hope to catch some of you over there email. Yeah,
we know, keep it cheap.

Speaker 5 (01:20:01):
I guess I'll take you off the approbation list, Mike.

Speaker 3 (01:20:04):
I have no words of wisdom other than stay cool everyone.
I wish we could send a little bit of our
cool weather down your way.

Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
I wish you could. We could certainly use it.

Speaker 4 (01:20:17):
If you do, we'll send you some nice warm weather
back up there in February.

Speaker 3 (01:20:22):
Perfect.

Speaker 4 (01:20:23):
Ye, all right, it's a deal, alright. Seven three everyone
seven three ye seven three.

Speaker 2 (01:20:32):
Everybody cannot.

Speaker 3 (01:21:00):
Black?

Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
Who plain.

Speaker 7 (01:21:05):
Black?

Speaker 4 (01:21:05):
Black?

Speaker 7 (01:21:05):
Black?

Speaker 8 (01:21:05):
Black?

Speaker 7 (01:21:07):
Black black?

Speaker 2 (01:21:07):
Or sh