August 8, 2025 • 36 mins
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Hello Everyone! In this episode I discuss the life and legacy of the late, great Ozzy Osbourne. From his humble beginnings to international stardom, Ozzy has paved the way for musicians and artists in the rock and metal communities. His music discusses themes of peace, love, war, spirituality, the occult and the truthful realities of life itself. There will be no other human being like him for he is one of a kind. I hope that he is at peace and will be remembered as someone who was true to himself regardless of what society thought of him. RIP Prince of Darkness! Peace and Love everyone, enjoy!! ☆
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SPEAKER_00 (00:00):
welcome one and all to the magic music podcast i'm
your host joseph matthew and inthis series we will be
discussing various occult andesoteric practices in music art
and culture so sit back relaxand let's explore the unknown
together enjoy Hey everyone,welcome to episode number 11.
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I'm sure most of you have heardby now, but unfortunately, the
great Ozzy Osbourne has passedaway.
He passed away on July 22nd,2025.
I'm still kind of in shock, tobe honest with you.
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His passing hit me pretty hard.
He and the crew and everyone,they had set up the Back to the
Beginning show with BlackSabbath and a bunch of others as
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a tribute to Ozzy and his careerand what he's done in Black
Sabbath and just his life andhis legacy.
Completely unmatched.
I mean, Ozzy was definitely oneof a kind.
I don't think there's anotherperson like him, to be honest
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with you.
His music has influenced so manyindividuals in the rock and
metal community and beyond, too.
He was a public figure.
He had the reality show TheOsbournes for a while.
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But man, I mean, the Back to theBeginning show, I think they
streamed it on pay-per-view.
I saw a couple snippets of it.
I watched a few of theirperformances.
Tool performed Youngblood.
I'm not sure if you guys knowwho that is, but he's kind of
like a new up-and-coming artist,hard rock metal genre.
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He performed a cover of Changesby Black Sabbath, which was...
incredible i mean his his vocalrange and just he it was such an
amazing performance yeah it'sit's sad it's really sad i know
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he had he had parkinson'sdisease um for a long time and
he had to have i think surgeryon his back or something it
messed him up pretty pretty badBut yeah, I just thought in this
episode, I would just coverOzzy's life and his legacy.
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Yeah, what he has done for theworld of music.
So yeah, let's get into it.
So I'll just kind of give alittle blip about Ozzy.
um his upbringing and stuff sohis full name was john michael
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osborne i believe ozzy was hisnickname he was born december
3rd 1948 in birmingham englandand birmingham was kind of like
a factory town when he wasgrowing up this was kind of like
you know right after the warworld war ii so you know england
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was just decimated and they hadto get you know everything back
up and running so he you knowwas known for kind of just um he
had some kind of odd jobs likein factories and stuff like that
and um he got involved in somesome petty crimes unfortunately
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but you know he didn't grow upyou know rich or born into a
wealthy family.
He had to really work for whathe wanted and what he believed
in.
So his nickname is the Prince ofDarkness, which I think is
awesome.
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I'm not sure who gave him thatnickname, probably just over
time, you know, because of hisstage antics and things like
that.
And obviously he was known forbeing a founding member and
frontman of Black Sabbath.
Having a successful solo careerafter he got let go from the
band.
And also reality TV stardom inthe Osbournes with his family.
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Which was, it's hilarious.
I've been watching reruns on it.
I think they have, but I forgetwhat channel it is.
But it's definitely on one ofthe free streaming services.
So you can go back and watch allthe insane, hilarious...
shit that they would do as afamily it's just like he was
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such a character man like it'sjust he was just naturally uh
naturally funny for sure justhad no idea what the fuck was
going on at any given time andtrying to raise like you know
kids and stuff and deal with allthe pets around the house it was
just a shit show that's whatreality tv is i think they were
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kind of like a pioneer of ofreality television to be honest
with you this is back in theearly 2000s night i was like
maybe probably i was young whenit came out i was born in 95 so
i was probably like maybe sevenor eight years old um but i've
seen episodes when i was youngerand it was just this guy's
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hilarious to be to go from beingthis really kind of like scary
like insane stage persona thathe had to just being a family
man it was such a such acontrast but it showed that like
you know he was he was a realreal person super down to earth
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and super honest so yeah hisearly life he grew up in a
working-class family uh in astonbirmingham He struggled in
school due to dyslexia andapparently left at the age of
15.
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He had brief stints in factoryjobs and petty crime, and
ultimately he turned to music asan escape from all that.
He said in various interviewsthat his main influence was the
Beatles, which, you know,listening to Sabbath and the
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solo stuff, you know, youwouldn't really make that
connection.
At least I never did.
But now that I look back, I cankind of, kind of see like
certain songs, you know, whereBeatles-esque or influenced, you
know, and he had a quote, Ithink he said that, you know,
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when the Beatles came on, it waslike, you know, listening to
their music, like going to bedand waking up and the world was,
was, in color you know seeingthe full like spectrum of things
like it was unlike anything thathe probably heard before and it
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was so like you know they pushedthe boundaries so yeah it's a
really interesting fact aboutabout him so the black sabbath
era he was the guys were youngwhen they started so i think
they i believe they started in1968 um and then to 1979 and
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that's when ozzy got fired fromthe band for doing too many
drugs you know he has he'sobviously known for um all that
stuff and you know just goingoff the rails with it
unfortunately so Yeah, for over,what was that, like over 10
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years, 11 years?
To be in Sabbath.
So in 1968, Ozzy joined BlackSabbath alongside Tony Iommi,
Geezer Butler, and Bill Ward.
So Tony Iommi was the guitarist,or is the guitarist for Black
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Sabbath.
Geezer Butler played bassguitar.
and Bill Ward played drums.
And they were credited withinventing heavy metal music by,
I guess, kind of melding bluesrock with dark and
occult-influenced themes.
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So instead of makingrun-of-the-mill pop songs, what
set Sabbath apart, at least forme, was the fact that they were
tapping into like kind of thisthis darkness that i feel exists
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within all of us they kind ofpulled back the curtain on you
know these dark and up thingslike behind the scenes Man, I
can't even tell you, man.
Black Sabbath was just a hugeinfluence on me.
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I remember the first time...
The first song I think I heardby them was...
I believe it was Iron Man.
I think that was probably thefirst song.
And they have a ton of hits.
And Iron Man, obviously, is oneof their big ones.
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But...
just painting this picture ofyou know this guy that gets like
you know he helps people andthen they turn on him almost
like frankenstein you knowthat's kind of like he helps
people and then he eventuallydestroys them because he
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realizes oh like these peoplearen't they're they're evil you
know they're not good But to beable to paint a picture with
lyrics and instruments, they didit so well with just being a
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four-piece.
It still blows my mind.
You could still listen to anySabbath record.
It sounds like it was madeyesterday.
It really does.
And it stands up on its own.
You know, it doesn't get lost inlike, you know, static of all
these other bands that have beeninfluenced by them right like no
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one like pushed them to the sidelike sabbath is the the og like
sabbath is the one they are theones that helped push like the
genre forward and they probablyhad a vision and they just
executed it probably just seeingall of the factories and the
filth and like the destructionof the war like that takes a
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toll on you and they were their20s they were like rebellious
they were trying to get out ofthat and go somewhere else that
was up for like a better futurefor them so i mean all of
sabbath's albums are prettyiconic um it's hard to even sit
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here and like rank the albumsbecause I don't know.
I could sit here all day andjust rattle off songs that I
like and stuff, but I don'tknow, man.
Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, therecord they made in 1973, that's
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probably my favorite one out ofthe bunch because just the riffs
on that, Killing Yourself toLive, um the song sabbath bloody
sabbath where it has that justincredible like really dark
twisted like breakdown at theend which still i guess it still
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holds up it's still like youlisten to that you're like oh my
god like it's so it's so goodit's so heavy but man yeah i
mean obviously their first albumself-titled Black Sabbath,
Paranoid, which features IronMan, War Pigs, and the song
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Paranoid, Masters of Reality,and 71.
Again, there's just so many.
You can just go through all oftheir discography and just
listen to all the songs.
Every single one, even the deepcuts are good too.
They had a lot of acoustic songstoo.
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where Tony Iommi was justfiddling around on acoustic
guitar.
And, yeah, their music was justheavier and much darker than
anything at the time.
Like, I feel like the music, youknow, that was on the charts
back then in, like, the late60s, early 70s, it was, like,
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very, like, hey, like, don'tlook over here where all this
fucked up shit is happening.
Look over here.
We're going to try to distractyou with this, like, really
upbeat, like, you know, kind ofbubblegum pop, like, music, and
just dance, it's fine, justdance, like, don't worry about
the wars that are happening,and, you know, all the fucked up
shit, it was all distraction,but Sabbath, like, they were
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real, and I think that's whythey, they're so good, is
because they, people sensed,like, oh my god, like, they're
talking about real shit thatother people don't want to talk
about, they want to bury it,And, you know, Ozzy had a very,
very distinct voice.
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It was really just...
It was really haunting and,like, almost ghostly.
Coupled with...
I just have to say, like,coupled with Tony Iommi's...
His riffs...
And his guitar tone.
I think, like, that combination,and obviously Geezer Butler...
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They all had...
something to bring to the tablethey all had a specific tone and
a quality when they all cametogether it was just like this
perfect blended sonic landscapeof just pure darkness and
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brutality but they you know theyIt was very optimistic as well.
It wasn't like, you know, youwould listen to their albums and
be like, oh, I'm so depressed.
Like, no, it almost like shockedyou.
Like, oh, whoa, like that, thatfucked me up a little bit.
So when I was like, let me see,when I was about 13, that's when
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I picked up the bass guitar.
And I remember sitting thereand, you know, thinking to
myself like, oh, like, whatcould I learn on bass?
and you know geezer butler was ahuge influence on my playing
like his style was very likegroovy and like open-ended and
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kind of jazzy you know too likethe first sabbath record there
were some kind of like jazzyparts on it you know which is
really cool um how they kind ofhad a little bit of that
background jazz, blues, funk,and then they all kind of
coalesced into that style thatthey're known for.
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But man, like, I rememberhearing War Pigs, like putting
headphones on, and I wasprobably listening through like
a laptop or my computer orsomething at the time when I was
13, trying to learn how to playlike War Pigs and N.I.B., and
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yeah just a lot of and paranoidyou know i was part of like a
bunch of jam groups back in theday where we would cover like
sabbath songs and and metal andother um and rock and that type
of genre so i kind of cut myteeth like on on sabbath back in
the day and that's why you knowtheir music means so much to me
you know i've always just i'vealways bumped sabbath like
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there's never never a time tonot like bump sabbath i feel
like you can be at likeSomeone's birthday party or at
the beach or like, you know on afucking mountain somewhere It
fits wherever you go But manlike what stood out to me About
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like the song war pigs was notjust the instrumentation itself
but like the lyrics I Have neverheard anything like it and I
don't think I've ever heardanything like it since I Just,
you know, the lines that stuckout to me, man, like, obviously,
you know, when Ozzy sings, like,you know, generals gathered in
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their masses, just like witchesat black masses, immediately
paints, and Ozzy's probably abig influence on why I'm into
this stuff anyway, like, intothe occult shit, because he
painted this picture for me whenI was younger of, like, I saw,
like, you can visualize in yourhead these Military generals
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sitting in a room talking abouthow they're going to fuck people
up.
And it's like they're using likethis sorcery and this dark black
magic to like inflict pain,destruction and death.
And it's like that picture wasso terrifying, but it like
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brought you back to this corething of like, oh, I'm not like
that.
And I know the differencebetween good and evil, but just
having that image in your headof like, oh my God, like this is
like, it already sets you downthis path.
Like, I mean, I can just readoff the lyrics.
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Yeah, so generals gathered intheir masses, just like witches
at black masses.
Evil minds that plotdestruction, sorcerer of death's
construction.
So like Ozzy was like imbuinglike this mysticism into it,
comparing these people tomagicians almost of like, okay,
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we have this power.
We have the resources.
What are we going to do with it?
In the fields, the body'sburning as the war machine keeps
turning.
Death and hatred to mankindpoisoning their brainwashed
minds.
It's so like poetic.
I mean, it was probably a, It isfor sure an anti-war song.
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And again, this is why I try onthis podcast to make the
distinction between black magicversus white magic, what's good
and what's evil.
This is an anti-war song.
He's not saying, oh yeah, let'sstart a war.
I don't think anyone reallywants that.
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He's just pointing it out, thatthis is probably what happens,
that a bunch of demented peopleget together and realize, how
can we just exert ourselves overthese individuals?
Politicians hide themselvesaway.
They only started the war.
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Why should they go out to fight?
They leave that all to the poor.
Time will tell on their powerminds.
Making war just for fun.
Treating people just like pawnsin chess.
Wait till their judgment daycomes.
Again, this still resonates now.
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You know, you have people thatlike to start war.
They push a button and they goand hide.
You know, and they expect otherpeople to fight for them.
Which, yeah, it's fucked up.
And then this is the one thatreally, the last...
The second verse, like after theguitar solo.
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Now in darkness, world stopsturning.
Ashes were their bodies burning.
No more war pigs have the power.
Hand of God has struck the hour.
Day of judgment, God is calling.
On their knees, the war pigscrawling.
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Begging mercies for their sins.
satan laughing spreads his wingsi remember like listening to
this song for the first time andthat just that the satan
laughing spreads his wings likei was my mouth like hit the
floor because like i've neverheard anything like that it
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wasn't pop music you know it wasjust like this real thing of
like oh my god like these peopleare getting what they deserve
like they will get what theydeserve in time And me being
like 13, I'm like, oh my God,like, this is so cool.
Like, you know, just listeningto all this music and that
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really stuck with me.
Like that, that image, you know,and it's not evil.
It's saying that like, you know,their judgment day is here and
they're going to be punished fortheir crimes.
And, you know, it's all thatthere's a lot of messed up.
stuff that's happening right nowI don't want to get really like
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political on uh on this podcastbut man I mean I can draw like
similarities to what's happeningwith Israel and you know the
Gaza Strip right now and all thePalestinians that are being uh
slaughtered because they're justdifferent right and all the
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children that are being starvedto death over there.
And they're blocking food fromgetting over there and aid
because they just feel like it,you know, their powerful state.
And again, like I said, everyonehas their opinions on this, but
I think, you know, generalconsensus is like, you know,
their time will come.
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Everyone's aware of what'shappening.
There's more eyes on it now.
Like we're seeing a genocide inlike real time.
And, you know, I hope it doesn'tescalate even further.
Like, but...
Again, we just have to hope.
But, you know, this will neverstop.
There will always be insanepeople in power that love to
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just...
Yeah, make war just for fun.
Like, they have nothing betterto do.
They have so much money and somuch power that they try to...
Then they're bored.
They own all the shit that theywant.
And they're like, hmm, what elsecan I do?
Hmm.
Maybe I can like buy people.
Maybe I can like just fund thesethings that happen, these
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horrific things that happen.
But anyway, sorry for thepolitically charged rant, but we
just shouldn't kill fuckinghumans.
Like I think at the end of theday, we shouldn't kill humans,
especially babies and children.
So I think that's just aunanimous thing, I think.
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Ozzy was fired in 1979.
due to escalating substanceabuse and internal tensions.
So they were very popular forthe time.
I mean, they got a lot of badreviews and shit, but in terms
of just like, they sold outperformances, like they were on
the bill with some very, veryhigh profile acts.
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And yeah, being in a band for 11years, you don't know what you
have till it's gone.
And unfortunately at Drugs,takes a huge toll.
I mean, you can look up storiesabout Ozzy's crazy drug-fueled
days.
And when he was younger, hereally, really struggled with
that, unfortunately.
And it's sad, but sometimes youneed something to cope with the
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fame and the pressure and tohelp you write a song.
So I really feel for him, butI'm sure he didn't want to do it
on purpose or wanted to be a badperson on purpose.
It happens.
All right, so his solo careerstarted in 1980.
So he jumped right into a solocareer instead of getting
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depressed or just stopping orwhatever.
So I think that's really goodthat he just had the drive and
the motivation.
I'm sure he was pissed to befired.
He persevered, and then that'swhat kind of shot him into
stardom was the solo career.
So Randy Rhoads, I think Ozzyfinding Randy was like just
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crucial for...
Blizzard of Oz was iconic.
I mean, you have Crazy Train,Mr.
Crowley, which, you know, talkedabout Aleister Crowley in the
past.
Having a song dedicated to himis like, you know, it's pretty
cool.
He knew about the cult and...
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religious themes and darknessand all this stuff so it
probably just it tickled hisfancy you know he was like oh
this is cool i'm gonna writeabout this stuff so he's very
into like spiritualism and stufflike i don't think he was a very
religious person i'm not toosure but he did pray or say a
prayer before every show that hedid but i don't think he was
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like a practice like i don'tknow if he went to church at all
but He believes in, like, thethemes of, you know, being a
Christian, I guess, and God andJesus and stuff.
Yeah, his other hit albums, Imean, Diary of a Madman, In 81,
No More Tears, Osmosis, OrdinaryMan.
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You know, the list just goes onand on.
Like, everything that he didjust turned to gold.
You know, it's like...
He was such an icon and he justdidn't really, honestly, he was
just himself.
He didn't really have to try.
And I think if you're justyourself and you don't force
things to happen and you just dothings naturally and you're
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honest, then I think you'll gopretty far.
There was a lot of controversy,you know, surrounding him and
his public persona.
He became infamous for hisonstage antics, including, you
know, biting the head off a bat,not on purpose.
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By mistake, he thought it was atoy bat.
Had to get, like, rabies shots.
But, like, I can't even imagine,like, you know, biting the head
off a bat and, like, realizing,like, oh, shit, like, what did I
just do?
And that was 1982.
He was arrested, you know, forpublic intoxication.
Um...
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legal battles over song lyricsallegedly inspiring teen
suicides and that happened withlike judas priest too there was
a big thing in the 80s wherethey were trying to go after a
lot of these artists liketwisted sister like that said
that like oh oh you're forcingthese kids to kill themselves
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and it's like well no that's notthe case it's just like they're
reading much into the lyrics ithink like you know and they're
just not you know unfortunatelymaybe not mentally well so i
don't really blame the bands toomuch because like if you ask the
bands what the songs are aboutit's like not about suicide or
anything it could be likestruggles with suicide but like
they're not saying hey go outand like kill yourself like no
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they're just like maybe speakingfrom experience or maybe they
know someone that did somethingso nine times out of ten it's
not like malicious A song is asong, and you can imbue whatever
you want into it.
Sometimes there's a clearmessage, sometimes there's an
underlying message, and you justkind of find what's right for
you.
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And despite the controversies,he has always maintained a
persona, mixing his dark,twisted theatrics with
self-deprecating humor, and Ithink that's what...
He didn't take himself tooseriously.
I don't know if Ozzy would be...
know such an icon if he wasn'treally like self-deprecating you
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know if he took himself reallyseriously like i'm the prince of
darkness like worship me likethen i don't know like it would
just sound it doesn't seem likereal you know so the imbuing the
humor into it i think was whatmade it like more palatable for
um for his fans the 2000s ozzystarred in the osbournes which
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was i think a groundbreaking umreality show so that was with
his wife sharon and um his kidsjack and kelly and it made him a
household name just beyond musicand that's i think it helped him
a lot in his career just youknow being just being silly like
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this is a day in the life of ofozzy osbourne this like crazy
musician um he would just likeyou know mumble things and act
and just be confused it was kindof sad you know but he was
probably going through all thishealth crap and to have it be
filmed this is a little weirdwhen you think about it and he
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just had this eccentricpersonality his wife uh sharon
was very pivotal in his you knowsolo career i think and what
happened beyond black sabbaththey got married in 1982 and
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what she did was like basicallymanaged his career and helped
him with his sobriety becausethere was a period of time where
he was sober and then he wouldkind of fall back into it but he
was like really tried to juststay stay as sober as possible
Apparently Ozzy had six childrenfrom two different marriages.
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He's been very open about hislifelong battles with addiction,
mental health, and Parkinson'sdisease.
And he was diagnosed in 2019with that.
So I've watched interviews withhim and he speaks very, very
openly about that.
And I think that's good not totry to hide this or be like, oh,
I'm strong enough to deal withthis.
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No, I mean, it's okay to not bestrong.
You know, it's okay to just beopen, especially with like the
public.
You know, it's hard to shareinformation with the public, but
if you're just honest, you know,people look at it like a
different way.
So his legacy.
Definitely, he is one of thefounding fathers of heavy metal.
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He paved the way along with TonyIommi, Geezer Butler, and Bill
Ward.
Other acts like, you know, likeZeppelin and Deep Purple and
Foghat Blue Cheer, Motorheadlike, you know, everything just
coalesced To create what heavymetal is now and it's so
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different than what it was.
I mean a lot of it now There's aton of those really really heavy
breakdowns and like screams andall this stuff.
It's just evolved and it willkeep evolving and He was
inducted into the Rock and RollHall of Fame with Black Sabbath
in 2006.
And he was the winner of severalGrammy Awards and a Global Icon
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Award at the MTV Europe MusicAwards.
I think all in all, you know, hewill be surely missed by
millions and millions andmillions of people.
And...
I think he has passed the torchonto the next generation.
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I'm excited to see what thefuture holds for hard rock and
heavy metal.
Thank you so much, guys, forlistening.
And yeah, just go bump someSabbath, man.
Just go...
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I'm definitely going to listento some after this.
I've been listening to Sabbathever since the Back to the
Beginning show.
Really inspired, you know.
I think like the past, the pastlike month I took a break from
making episodes because of just,you know, life stuff that was
going on.
But to see that and to see hisfinal performance with Black
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Sabbath, all four originalmembers that they're all still
alive, you know, besides Ozzy.
You know, and for him to passaway, like, two weeks later, you
know, it was very, very poetic.
He even joked that he was gonnadie, like, at, like, while he
was performing.
Which, you know, very, very wellmay, could have, you know.
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But he stuck it out, and hewanted to say one last goodbye.
And when they played Paranoid asthe final song, it was like,
this is the final song, like,this is it.
It's like, man, everything comesto an end, but is it the
beginning of the end or the endof the beginning?
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Life goes on, and wherever Ozzyis now, his spirit, his soul,
you know, I hope that he findspeace, you know, because deep
down, I can tell he was a goodperson, I think, you know, as
long as he will live on.
So, guys, thanks for listening,and I will...
Catch you next time.
welcome one and all to the magic music podcast i'm
your host joseph matthew and inthis series we will be
discussing various occult andesoteric practices in music art
and culture so sit back relaxand let's explore the unknown
together enjoy Hey everyone,welcome to episode number 11.
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I'm sure most of you have heardby now, but unfortunately, the
great Ozzy Osbourne has passedaway.
He passed away on July 22nd,2025.
I'm still kind of in shock, tobe honest with you.
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His passing hit me pretty hard.
He and the crew and everyone,they had set up the Back to the
Beginning show with BlackSabbath and a bunch of others as
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a tribute to Ozzy and his careerand what he's done in Black
Sabbath and just his life andhis legacy.
Completely unmatched.
I mean, Ozzy was definitely oneof a kind.
I don't think there's anotherperson like him, to be honest
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with you.
His music has influenced so manyindividuals in the rock and
metal community and beyond, too.
He was a public figure.
He had the reality show TheOsbournes for a while.
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But man, I mean, the Back to theBeginning show, I think they
streamed it on pay-per-view.
I saw a couple snippets of it.
I watched a few of theirperformances.
Tool performed Youngblood.
I'm not sure if you guys knowwho that is, but he's kind of
like a new up-and-coming artist,hard rock metal genre.
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He performed a cover of Changesby Black Sabbath, which was...
incredible i mean his his vocalrange and just he it was such an
amazing performance yeah it'sit's sad it's really sad i know
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he had he had parkinson'sdisease um for a long time and
he had to have i think surgeryon his back or something it
messed him up pretty pretty badBut yeah, I just thought in this
episode, I would just coverOzzy's life and his legacy.
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Yeah, what he has done for theworld of music.
So yeah, let's get into it.
So I'll just kind of give alittle blip about Ozzy.
um his upbringing and stuff sohis full name was john michael
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osborne i believe ozzy was hisnickname he was born december
3rd 1948 in birmingham englandand birmingham was kind of like
a factory town when he wasgrowing up this was kind of like
you know right after the warworld war ii so you know england
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was just decimated and they hadto get you know everything back
up and running so he you knowwas known for kind of just um he
had some kind of odd jobs likein factories and stuff like that
and um he got involved in somesome petty crimes unfortunately
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but you know he didn't grow upyou know rich or born into a
wealthy family.
He had to really work for whathe wanted and what he believed
in.
So his nickname is the Prince ofDarkness, which I think is
awesome.
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I'm not sure who gave him thatnickname, probably just over
time, you know, because of hisstage antics and things like
that.
And obviously he was known forbeing a founding member and
frontman of Black Sabbath.
Having a successful solo careerafter he got let go from the
band.
And also reality TV stardom inthe Osbournes with his family.
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Which was, it's hilarious.
I've been watching reruns on it.
I think they have, but I forgetwhat channel it is.
But it's definitely on one ofthe free streaming services.
So you can go back and watch allthe insane, hilarious...
shit that they would do as afamily it's just like he was
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such a character man like it'sjust he was just naturally uh
naturally funny for sure justhad no idea what the fuck was
going on at any given time andtrying to raise like you know
kids and stuff and deal with allthe pets around the house it was
just a shit show that's whatreality tv is i think they were
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kind of like a pioneer of ofreality television to be honest
with you this is back in theearly 2000s night i was like
maybe probably i was young whenit came out i was born in 95 so
i was probably like maybe sevenor eight years old um but i've
seen episodes when i was youngerand it was just this guy's
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hilarious to be to go from beingthis really kind of like scary
like insane stage persona thathe had to just being a family
man it was such a such acontrast but it showed that like
you know he was he was a realreal person super down to earth
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and super honest so yeah hisearly life he grew up in a
working-class family uh in astonbirmingham He struggled in
school due to dyslexia andapparently left at the age of
15.
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He had brief stints in factoryjobs and petty crime, and
ultimately he turned to music asan escape from all that.
He said in various interviewsthat his main influence was the
Beatles, which, you know,listening to Sabbath and the
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solo stuff, you know, youwouldn't really make that
connection.
At least I never did.
But now that I look back, I cankind of, kind of see like
certain songs, you know, whereBeatles-esque or influenced, you
know, and he had a quote, Ithink he said that, you know,
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when the Beatles came on, it waslike, you know, listening to
their music, like going to bedand waking up and the world was,
was, in color you know seeingthe full like spectrum of things
like it was unlike anything thathe probably heard before and it
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was so like you know they pushedthe boundaries so yeah it's a
really interesting fact aboutabout him so the black sabbath
era he was the guys were youngwhen they started so i think
they i believe they started in1968 um and then to 1979 and
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that's when ozzy got fired fromthe band for doing too many
drugs you know he has he'sobviously known for um all that
stuff and you know just goingoff the rails with it
unfortunately so Yeah, for over,what was that, like over 10
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years, 11 years?
To be in Sabbath.
So in 1968, Ozzy joined BlackSabbath alongside Tony Iommi,
Geezer Butler, and Bill Ward.
So Tony Iommi was the guitarist,or is the guitarist for Black
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Sabbath.
Geezer Butler played bassguitar.
and Bill Ward played drums.
And they were credited withinventing heavy metal music by,
I guess, kind of melding bluesrock with dark and
occult-influenced themes.
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So instead of makingrun-of-the-mill pop songs, what
set Sabbath apart, at least forme, was the fact that they were
tapping into like kind of thisthis darkness that i feel exists
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within all of us they kind ofpulled back the curtain on you
know these dark and up thingslike behind the scenes Man, I
can't even tell you, man.
Black Sabbath was just a hugeinfluence on me.
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I remember the first time...
The first song I think I heardby them was...
I believe it was Iron Man.
I think that was probably thefirst song.
And they have a ton of hits.
And Iron Man, obviously, is oneof their big ones.
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But...
just painting this picture ofyou know this guy that gets like
you know he helps people andthen they turn on him almost
like frankenstein you knowthat's kind of like he helps
people and then he eventuallydestroys them because he
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realizes oh like these peoplearen't they're they're evil you
know they're not good But to beable to paint a picture with
lyrics and instruments, they didit so well with just being a
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four-piece.
It still blows my mind.
You could still listen to anySabbath record.
It sounds like it was madeyesterday.
It really does.
And it stands up on its own.
You know, it doesn't get lost inlike, you know, static of all
these other bands that have beeninfluenced by them right like no
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one like pushed them to the sidelike sabbath is the the og like
sabbath is the one they are theones that helped push like the
genre forward and they probablyhad a vision and they just
executed it probably just seeingall of the factories and the
filth and like the destructionof the war like that takes a
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toll on you and they were their20s they were like rebellious
they were trying to get out ofthat and go somewhere else that
was up for like a better futurefor them so i mean all of
sabbath's albums are prettyiconic um it's hard to even sit
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here and like rank the albumsbecause I don't know.
I could sit here all day andjust rattle off songs that I
like and stuff, but I don'tknow, man.
Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, therecord they made in 1973, that's
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probably my favorite one out ofthe bunch because just the riffs
on that, Killing Yourself toLive, um the song sabbath bloody
sabbath where it has that justincredible like really dark
twisted like breakdown at theend which still i guess it still
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holds up it's still like youlisten to that you're like oh my
god like it's so it's so goodit's so heavy but man yeah i
mean obviously their first albumself-titled Black Sabbath,
Paranoid, which features IronMan, War Pigs, and the song
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Paranoid, Masters of Reality,and 71.
Again, there's just so many.
You can just go through all oftheir discography and just
listen to all the songs.
Every single one, even the deepcuts are good too.
They had a lot of acoustic songstoo.
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where Tony Iommi was justfiddling around on acoustic
guitar.
And, yeah, their music was justheavier and much darker than
anything at the time.
Like, I feel like the music, youknow, that was on the charts
back then in, like, the late60s, early 70s, it was, like,
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very, like, hey, like, don'tlook over here where all this
fucked up shit is happening.
Look over here.
We're going to try to distractyou with this, like, really
upbeat, like, you know, kind ofbubblegum pop, like, music, and
just dance, it's fine, justdance, like, don't worry about
the wars that are happening,and, you know, all the fucked up
shit, it was all distraction,but Sabbath, like, they were
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real, and I think that's whythey, they're so good, is
because they, people sensed,like, oh my god, like, they're
talking about real shit thatother people don't want to talk
about, they want to bury it,And, you know, Ozzy had a very,
very distinct voice.
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It was really just...
It was really haunting and,like, almost ghostly.
Coupled with...
I just have to say, like,coupled with Tony Iommi's...
His riffs...
And his guitar tone.
I think, like, that combination,and obviously Geezer Butler...
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They all had...
something to bring to the tablethey all had a specific tone and
a quality when they all cametogether it was just like this
perfect blended sonic landscapeof just pure darkness and
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brutality but they you know theyIt was very optimistic as well.
It wasn't like, you know, youwould listen to their albums and
be like, oh, I'm so depressed.
Like, no, it almost like shockedyou.
Like, oh, whoa, like that, thatfucked me up a little bit.
So when I was like, let me see,when I was about 13, that's when
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I picked up the bass guitar.
And I remember sitting thereand, you know, thinking to
myself like, oh, like, whatcould I learn on bass?
and you know geezer butler was ahuge influence on my playing
like his style was very likegroovy and like open-ended and
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kind of jazzy you know too likethe first sabbath record there
were some kind of like jazzyparts on it you know which is
really cool um how they kind ofhad a little bit of that
background jazz, blues, funk,and then they all kind of
coalesced into that style thatthey're known for.
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But man, like, I rememberhearing War Pigs, like putting
headphones on, and I wasprobably listening through like
a laptop or my computer orsomething at the time when I was
13, trying to learn how to playlike War Pigs and N.I.B., and
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yeah just a lot of and paranoidyou know i was part of like a
bunch of jam groups back in theday where we would cover like
sabbath songs and and metal andother um and rock and that type
of genre so i kind of cut myteeth like on on sabbath back in
the day and that's why you knowtheir music means so much to me
you know i've always just i'vealways bumped sabbath like
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there's never never a time tonot like bump sabbath i feel
like you can be at likeSomeone's birthday party or at
the beach or like, you know on afucking mountain somewhere It
fits wherever you go But manlike what stood out to me About
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like the song war pigs was notjust the instrumentation itself
but like the lyrics I Have neverheard anything like it and I
don't think I've ever heardanything like it since I Just,
you know, the lines that stuckout to me, man, like, obviously,
you know, when Ozzy sings, like,you know, generals gathered in
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their masses, just like witchesat black masses, immediately
paints, and Ozzy's probably abig influence on why I'm into
this stuff anyway, like, intothe occult shit, because he
painted this picture for me whenI was younger of, like, I saw,
like, you can visualize in yourhead these Military generals
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sitting in a room talking abouthow they're going to fuck people
up.
And it's like they're using likethis sorcery and this dark black
magic to like inflict pain,destruction and death.
And it's like that picture wasso terrifying, but it like
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brought you back to this corething of like, oh, I'm not like
that.
And I know the differencebetween good and evil, but just
having that image in your headof like, oh my God, like this is
like, it already sets you downthis path.
Like, I mean, I can just readoff the lyrics.
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Yeah, so generals gathered intheir masses, just like witches
at black masses.
Evil minds that plotdestruction, sorcerer of death's
construction.
So like Ozzy was like imbuinglike this mysticism into it,
comparing these people tomagicians almost of like, okay,
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we have this power.
We have the resources.
What are we going to do with it?
In the fields, the body'sburning as the war machine keeps
turning.
Death and hatred to mankindpoisoning their brainwashed
minds.
It's so like poetic.
I mean, it was probably a, It isfor sure an anti-war song.
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And again, this is why I try onthis podcast to make the
distinction between black magicversus white magic, what's good
and what's evil.
This is an anti-war song.
He's not saying, oh yeah, let'sstart a war.
I don't think anyone reallywants that.
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He's just pointing it out, thatthis is probably what happens,
that a bunch of demented peopleget together and realize, how
can we just exert ourselves overthese individuals?
Politicians hide themselvesaway.
They only started the war.
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Why should they go out to fight?
They leave that all to the poor.
Time will tell on their powerminds.
Making war just for fun.
Treating people just like pawnsin chess.
Wait till their judgment daycomes.
Again, this still resonates now.
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You know, you have people thatlike to start war.
They push a button and they goand hide.
You know, and they expect otherpeople to fight for them.
Which, yeah, it's fucked up.
And then this is the one thatreally, the last...
The second verse, like after theguitar solo.
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Now in darkness, world stopsturning.
Ashes were their bodies burning.
No more war pigs have the power.
Hand of God has struck the hour.
Day of judgment, God is calling.
On their knees, the war pigscrawling.
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Begging mercies for their sins.
satan laughing spreads his wingsi remember like listening to
this song for the first time andthat just that the satan
laughing spreads his wings likei was my mouth like hit the
floor because like i've neverheard anything like that it
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wasn't pop music you know it wasjust like this real thing of
like oh my god like these peopleare getting what they deserve
like they will get what theydeserve in time And me being
like 13, I'm like, oh my God,like, this is so cool.
Like, you know, just listeningto all this music and that
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really stuck with me.
Like that, that image, you know,and it's not evil.
It's saying that like, you know,their judgment day is here and
they're going to be punished fortheir crimes.
And, you know, it's all thatthere's a lot of messed up.
stuff that's happening right nowI don't want to get really like
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political on uh on this podcastbut man I mean I can draw like
similarities to what's happeningwith Israel and you know the
Gaza Strip right now and all thePalestinians that are being uh
slaughtered because they're justdifferent right and all the
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children that are being starvedto death over there.
And they're blocking food fromgetting over there and aid
because they just feel like it,you know, their powerful state.
And again, like I said, everyonehas their opinions on this, but
I think, you know, generalconsensus is like, you know,
their time will come.
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Everyone's aware of what'shappening.
There's more eyes on it now.
Like we're seeing a genocide inlike real time.
And, you know, I hope it doesn'tescalate even further.
Like, but...
Again, we just have to hope.
But, you know, this will neverstop.
There will always be insanepeople in power that love to
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just...
Yeah, make war just for fun.
Like, they have nothing betterto do.
They have so much money and somuch power that they try to...
Then they're bored.
They own all the shit that theywant.
And they're like, hmm, what elsecan I do?
Hmm.
Maybe I can like buy people.
Maybe I can like just fund thesethings that happen, these
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horrific things that happen.
But anyway, sorry for thepolitically charged rant, but we
just shouldn't kill fuckinghumans.
Like I think at the end of theday, we shouldn't kill humans,
especially babies and children.
So I think that's just aunanimous thing, I think.
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Ozzy was fired in 1979.
due to escalating substanceabuse and internal tensions.
So they were very popular forthe time.
I mean, they got a lot of badreviews and shit, but in terms
of just like, they sold outperformances, like they were on
the bill with some very, veryhigh profile acts.
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And yeah, being in a band for 11years, you don't know what you
have till it's gone.
And unfortunately at Drugs,takes a huge toll.
I mean, you can look up storiesabout Ozzy's crazy drug-fueled
days.
And when he was younger, hereally, really struggled with
that, unfortunately.
And it's sad, but sometimes youneed something to cope with the
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fame and the pressure and tohelp you write a song.
So I really feel for him, butI'm sure he didn't want to do it
on purpose or wanted to be a badperson on purpose.
It happens.
All right, so his solo careerstarted in 1980.
So he jumped right into a solocareer instead of getting
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depressed or just stopping orwhatever.
So I think that's really goodthat he just had the drive and
the motivation.
I'm sure he was pissed to befired.
He persevered, and then that'swhat kind of shot him into
stardom was the solo career.
So Randy Rhoads, I think Ozzyfinding Randy was like just
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crucial for...
Blizzard of Oz was iconic.
I mean, you have Crazy Train,Mr.
Crowley, which, you know, talkedabout Aleister Crowley in the
past.
Having a song dedicated to himis like, you know, it's pretty
cool.
He knew about the cult and...
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religious themes and darknessand all this stuff so it
probably just it tickled hisfancy you know he was like oh
this is cool i'm gonna writeabout this stuff so he's very
into like spiritualism and stufflike i don't think he was a very
religious person i'm not toosure but he did pray or say a
prayer before every show that hedid but i don't think he was
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like a practice like i don'tknow if he went to church at all
but He believes in, like, thethemes of, you know, being a
Christian, I guess, and God andJesus and stuff.
Yeah, his other hit albums, Imean, Diary of a Madman, In 81,
No More Tears, Osmosis, OrdinaryMan.
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You know, the list just goes onand on.
Like, everything that he didjust turned to gold.
You know, it's like...
He was such an icon and he justdidn't really, honestly, he was
just himself.
He didn't really have to try.
And I think if you're justyourself and you don't force
things to happen and you just dothings naturally and you're
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honest, then I think you'll gopretty far.
There was a lot of controversy,you know, surrounding him and
his public persona.
He became infamous for hisonstage antics, including, you
know, biting the head off a bat,not on purpose.
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By mistake, he thought it was atoy bat.
Had to get, like, rabies shots.
But, like, I can't even imagine,like, you know, biting the head
off a bat and, like, realizing,like, oh, shit, like, what did I
just do?
And that was 1982.
He was arrested, you know, forpublic intoxication.
Um...
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legal battles over song lyricsallegedly inspiring teen
suicides and that happened withlike judas priest too there was
a big thing in the 80s wherethey were trying to go after a
lot of these artists liketwisted sister like that said
that like oh oh you're forcingthese kids to kill themselves
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and it's like well no that's notthe case it's just like they're
reading much into the lyrics ithink like you know and they're
just not you know unfortunatelymaybe not mentally well so i
don't really blame the bands toomuch because like if you ask the
bands what the songs are aboutit's like not about suicide or
anything it could be likestruggles with suicide but like
they're not saying hey go outand like kill yourself like no
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they're just like maybe speakingfrom experience or maybe they
know someone that did somethingso nine times out of ten it's
not like malicious A song is asong, and you can imbue whatever
you want into it.
Sometimes there's a clearmessage, sometimes there's an
underlying message, and you justkind of find what's right for
you.
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And despite the controversies,he has always maintained a
persona, mixing his dark,twisted theatrics with
self-deprecating humor, and Ithink that's what...
He didn't take himself tooseriously.
I don't know if Ozzy would be...
know such an icon if he wasn'treally like self-deprecating you
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know if he took himself reallyseriously like i'm the prince of
darkness like worship me likethen i don't know like it would
just sound it doesn't seem likereal you know so the imbuing the
humor into it i think was whatmade it like more palatable for
um for his fans the 2000s ozzystarred in the osbournes which
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was i think a groundbreaking umreality show so that was with
his wife sharon and um his kidsjack and kelly and it made him a
household name just beyond musicand that's i think it helped him
a lot in his career just youknow being just being silly like
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this is a day in the life of ofozzy osbourne this like crazy
musician um he would just likeyou know mumble things and act
and just be confused it was kindof sad you know but he was
probably going through all thishealth crap and to have it be
filmed this is a little weirdwhen you think about it and he
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just had this eccentricpersonality his wife uh sharon
was very pivotal in his you knowsolo career i think and what
happened beyond black sabbaththey got married in 1982 and
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what she did was like basicallymanaged his career and helped
him with his sobriety becausethere was a period of time where
he was sober and then he wouldkind of fall back into it but he
was like really tried to juststay stay as sober as possible
Apparently Ozzy had six childrenfrom two different marriages.
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He's been very open about hislifelong battles with addiction,
mental health, and Parkinson'sdisease.
And he was diagnosed in 2019with that.
So I've watched interviews withhim and he speaks very, very
openly about that.
And I think that's good not totry to hide this or be like, oh,
I'm strong enough to deal withthis.
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No, I mean, it's okay to not bestrong.
You know, it's okay to just beopen, especially with like the
public.
You know, it's hard to shareinformation with the public, but
if you're just honest, you know,people look at it like a
different way.
So his legacy.
Definitely, he is one of thefounding fathers of heavy metal.
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He paved the way along with TonyIommi, Geezer Butler, and Bill
Ward.
Other acts like, you know, likeZeppelin and Deep Purple and
Foghat Blue Cheer, Motorheadlike, you know, everything just
coalesced To create what heavymetal is now and it's so
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different than what it was.
I mean a lot of it now There's aton of those really really heavy
breakdowns and like screams andall this stuff.
It's just evolved and it willkeep evolving and He was
inducted into the Rock and RollHall of Fame with Black Sabbath
in 2006.
And he was the winner of severalGrammy Awards and a Global Icon
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Award at the MTV Europe MusicAwards.
I think all in all, you know, hewill be surely missed by
millions and millions andmillions of people.
And...
I think he has passed the torchonto the next generation.
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I'm excited to see what thefuture holds for hard rock and
heavy metal.
Thank you so much, guys, forlistening.
And yeah, just go bump someSabbath, man.
Just go...
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I'm definitely going to listento some after this.
I've been listening to Sabbathever since the Back to the
Beginning show.
Really inspired, you know.
I think like the past, the pastlike month I took a break from
making episodes because of just,you know, life stuff that was
going on.
But to see that and to see hisfinal performance with Black
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Sabbath, all four originalmembers that they're all still
alive, you know, besides Ozzy.
You know, and for him to passaway, like, two weeks later, you
know, it was very, very poetic.
He even joked that he was gonnadie, like, at, like, while he
was performing.
Which, you know, very, very wellmay, could have, you know.
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But he stuck it out, and hewanted to say one last goodbye.
And when they played Paranoid asthe final song, it was like,
this is the final song, like,this is it.
It's like, man, everything comesto an end, but is it the
beginning of the end or the endof the beginning?
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Life goes on, and wherever Ozzyis now, his spirit, his soul,
you know, I hope that he findspeace, you know, because deep
down, I can tell he was a goodperson, I think, you know, as
long as he will live on.
So, guys, thanks for listening,and I will...
Catch you next time.
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