May 3, 2025 • 19 mins
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Hello! In Episode 4, I continue down the riveting path of exploring dreams and how the experiences relate to universal occult symbols throughout time. Have you seen any symbols like snakes or fire in your dreams? If so, your subconscious may be attempting to teach you a lesson of wisdom and self-transformation. Come and explore the realm of the unknown with me. Thank you all for listening. Enjoy!! ☆
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SPEAKER_00 (00:00):
Welcome, one and all, to the Magic Music Podcast.
I'm your host, Joseph Matthew,and in this series, we will be
discussing various occult andesoteric practices in music,
art, and culture.
So sit back, relax, and let'sexplore the unknown together.
Enjoy.
(00:21):
And the burning bush isinteresting because I was
watching Joe Rogan the other dayand he mentioned something about
the acacia bush and how it youknow they find like DMT in that
(00:42):
plant which is pretty crazy youknow so they were able to find a
way to extract something fromthat plant and use it for
something that was going to makethem trip out and then Moses had
like just was seeing this thingon fire maybe, or he described
(01:02):
it in a different way, maybesparkling or something.
It's very interesting.
So skulls or skeletons, shadowmeaning is fear of death and
endings, which is extremelycommon.
I think, you know, people wantto stay alive for as long as
they can if they're having agood life.
(01:24):
But if they're having a badlife, then it's like, well,
what's the point?
you want to be having the bestlife possible the spiritual
meaning skeletons istransformation letting go of the
ego and ancestral communicationso transformation is a big thing
(01:44):
you know you can either grow ordiminish and sometimes you go
back and forth you grow in acareer but you don't have a
family so you feel diminishedand then you want to You don't
want to sacrifice your careerand you don't want to start a
family.
Let's say it's a man who'smaking a lot of money and just
wants to have fun.
(02:06):
Maybe he'll make a lot of moneyand then get married later in
life, but might be a littlelonely when he's younger.
But he's just focusing ongetting money.
That's his desire.
That's his will.
His will is to gain wealth.
Maybe he's very knowledgeable atone subject.
Who knows?
(02:26):
But he's using that knowledgeand he's just taking it and
being like, okay, this iscapitalism.
This is the world that we livein, at least in America.
Which I'm not for or against it.
It's how the way things work.
And humanity has its flaws, forsure.
But we just have to keep ontrucking through and just be the
(02:52):
best people that we can be.
And then, you know, letting goof the ego is tough for some
people.
They're really holding on to itas tight as they can.
And then if it dissolves away,like imagine it dissolving away.
It puts you back in your place.
It humbles you.
It really does.
Once the ego is dissolved,whether that's, you know,
(03:16):
through meditation or justpersonal will, just thinking
about it or psychedelic drugs,It's really an experience like
no other.
You don't feel as constrained inyour body.
And then the ancestralcommunication, yeah, with
relatives or people that youhaven't even met that have your
(03:39):
DNA, which is insane.
In many traditions, death indreams means change, but not
actual death.
I think dreams prepare you fordeath.
I think they prepare you fordeath.
nodding out every night you knowthat feeling of like kind of
just going somewhere which youknow i have no idea where eyes
(04:05):
the shadow meaning is paranoiabeing watched like that uh that
one song spiritual meaning innervision third eye awakening
divine perception so yeah whenyou get messages And I'm going
(04:25):
to quote Frank Herbert in thefirst part of the new Dune movie
with Timothee Chalamet, which isamazing, by the way.
I love that movie so much.
So good.
I saw part one and part two.
It opens up in part one.
It says, you know, dreams aremessages from the deep.
Yeah, the deep.
Like, what is the deep?
What does it mean?
(04:45):
You know, is it a place?
Is it a feeling?
I think it's whatever you thinkit is and how it helps you.
Recurring eye might mean yourintuition is trying to get your
attention.
Yeah, intuition, you know, it'sjust kind of...
If you have a feeling aboutsomebody or something, it's like
(05:08):
your body's like warning systemin a way.
Which when we were...
Before we evolved into humans, Ithink, it's still this
biological thing in us whereit's like fight or flight.
There's something else out therethat's trying to pull you.
Pull you somewhere, good or bad.
(05:29):
Pyramids are triangles.
It's a symbol of spiritualascent, balance of mind, body,
spirit, ancient wisdom.
A triangle pointing up equalsaspiration.
Pointing down equals groundingor feminine energy.
That's pretty interesting.
(05:49):
The mind, body, and the spirit,yeah.
the father and the son and theholy spirit you know the the
holy trinity is prevalent youknow throughout time and i
believe that you have a physicalbody you have the mind and you
have this other realm this otherthing that drives like cells to
(06:13):
divide like where does thatforce that initial spark come
from it's like That's a life.
It's just like a spark.
You're just doing things.
You're trying to be creative.
You're trying to give yourself asense of purpose and everyone
needs a sense of purpose ifyou're going to have a
functioning society and one thatworks pretty well.
(06:33):
Everyone needs a purpose,whether that's a job or loving
somebody or an animal or athing, you know, like writing or
recording a song.
or podcast spiders or webs theshadow meaning is manipulation
or feeling trapped like a flydoes man imagine the dude
(06:57):
imagine the fear that's goingthrough that fly's mind of like
oh man like this is it this isthe end you know and like you
can kind of like you know makean ai video from that
perspective but it's that's uhyou can have a dream about that
too You know, spiders, if you'relike terrified of them.
When I was outside earlier, Isaw like a bunch of small
(07:17):
spiders, but they don't botherme.
Unless it's like a really biginsect, like a digger bee.
And those things are huge.
Those things are massive.
Spiritual meaning, creation,weaving fate, feminine
archetypal energy with...
So think arcane or the fates.
(07:39):
Okay.
Okay.
Seeing yourself in a web couldmean you're caught in karmic or
spiritual patterns.
Like you're wrapped up in thisburrito.
You know, this never-endingburrito that you're like rolled
up in.
It's a cycle.
The Ouroboros.
The Ouroboros is just the cycleof life.
You know, a snake eating its owntail.
(08:02):
Which I love that symbol.
It's a very powerful symbol.
The moon.
It's a symbol of intuition,cycles, the hidden feminine
energy.
A full moon can mean you're in atime of emotional or psychic
fullness.
Yeah, I guess depending on thephase, you know, as well.
(08:25):
Crescent moon, like, yeah,crescent moon often hints at
something growing in thespiritual realm.
That's pretty fascinating.
Yeah, it's like, you know, goingfrom a crescent to a full moon,
this, like, growth and, like...
this breathing, you know, thisin and out, the tides.
(08:49):
It's basically what it is.
It's like tides going in andout.
It shifts with the moon in thephases, which is, it's strange
when you think about it likethat, right?
That the moon apparentlycontrols the tides.
So birds, especially blackbirdsor owls, The shadow meaning is
omen, message from theunderworld.
(09:11):
I saw a crow the other day and Iwas like, I have to be careful
driving.
And as I was driving home fromwork, my first thought was like,
okay, that's weird.
I'm just a single crow and likecrows are usually bad luck,
right?
So you have to be extra carefuldriving just because, you know,
you never know.
So I'm driving and then this guyis like zooming up behind me and
(09:34):
like has to like pass me orsomething.
He was going pretty fast.
So it might've been warning meabout that.
Honestly, like seeing thathappen and like I had enough
time to like swerve out of theway if I needed to.
So maybe it was a sign.
I have no idea.
Spiritual meaning, freedom,transcendence, messenger from
(09:55):
the spirit world.
So something coming to you, aliaison, a messenger.
messenger delivering somethingto you of vast importance that
you can either take or or notbut you probably should because
(10:16):
it'd probably be rude to likenot accept that message or like
it can be knocking on your doorconsistently like like you know
like you have to like open thedoor at some point owls
especially signify hiddenknowledge or witchy intuition
there's something about you knowthe owls like people worship
(10:36):
this uh like an owl god orsomething called like malik i
think i'm not sure if that'sright but it's this massive owl
god and it's like people worshipthis thing um like politicians
and like you know apparentlylike world leaders and stuff so
maybe maybe they know somethingthat we don't um about owls and
(10:57):
all that stuff man or maybe it'ssymbolic for something else like
another deity But who knows?
I've never been to one of thoseceremonies before.
Doors and keys.
So a symbol of transition,initiation, unlocking spiritual
insight.
(11:20):
So it's moving from one thing toanother.
Like you've accessed this thingby maybe doing good deeds or
like you gave out or volunteeredat a soup kitchen or like you
gave out food to the homeless.
Like maybe...
something if if you don't didsomething positive it's going to
open a door you know like youfound the right like key or
(11:42):
skeleton key i think the mastersmaybe have like just a skeleton
key like a spiritual skeleton askeleton it's hard to say a
spiritual skeleton key to unlockso many doors in their minds
that can lead them to differentavenues and different paths you
know if they really put theirmind to it and dreaming of a
(12:05):
locked door may mean you'reresisting an opportunity a key
suggests you're ready so thatkey you know symbolically is you
moving towards somethingsomething greater and hopefully
something more positive water sooceans floods rain the shadow
(12:29):
meaning is overwhelm emotionalchaos you know getting hit by a
wave, a wave of stress, sadness,anger, envy, gluttony, you know,
things like that, just emotions,like being so overrun that you
(12:50):
can't control it, that it justgets continuously like being
pumped into you from somewhere.
The spiritual meaning isemotional healing, subconscious
energy, and deep inner truths.
Yeah, so emotional healing, likebeing overwhelmed by something.
Because if you suppresssomething, it's going to come
(13:11):
back to haunt you in differentforms.
It's happened to me.
So calm water is equivalent topeace.
Stormy water is equivalent tonot facing something emotional
that you're trying to repress.
That's why therapy is good.
Therapy is good for people.
(13:32):
Witches, shamans, or mysteriousfigures.
It's a symbol of your innermystic, a guide, or a challenge.
So something that's maybe yourfuture self or something that's
like your essence.
(13:54):
And you are like guidingyourself along to this path of
glory and truth, maybe.
If they're helping you, trustthe path.
But if they're threatening, itmay be time for shadow work,
which means if something islike, hey, come here, I'm going
(14:15):
to expose you to all this stuffthat's going to harm you.
It's like drinking a poison.
You're intentionally doing it.
You can't really help that ifyou go with a positive entity or
a negative entity.
You know, there's two paths youcan take.
There's like one option andthere's another option.
(14:36):
There's really nothing inbetween.
Either like good or bad, or youcan start out good and maybe
like be misleading you intosomething.
A woolen sheep's clothing, ifyou will.
Let's see.
So, and then bonus numbers.
So three is a trinity.
(14:58):
Body, mind, and spirit.
or manifestation.
So think of a triangle, thinkof, you know, three intersecting
circles, like a Venn diagram orsomething.
It represents the union, theperfect union of those, those
three things of mind or body,mind, and spirit.
(15:19):
And if you focus on each one andyou can get, you know, better at
doing those things, you can workout, you can make your body
stronger.
But you can be strong and havean unhealthy mind and vice
versa.
You know, you can be brilliantbut have an unhealthy body.
The spirit, like, differentthings can take a hold of you,
(15:45):
you know, and you can manipulatethe spirit world.
And the spirit world canmanipulate you.
So seven is a sacred number.
It's, you know, revolves aroundmystery.
initiation into something so youknow a lot of bands actually use
(16:06):
you know seven four seven eighttime signature and that's like
you know counting instead oflike you know one two three four
you're counting one two threefour five six seven and then you
go back to one there's a lot ofsongs that utilize that we'll
talk about you know the bandtool a lot because they have a
(16:27):
lot of not you know like four onthe four type beats um they use
you know a bunch of they're intonumerology and stuff and you
know the way they change timesignatures is really it's like
effortless you know but it's noteasy i'm sure they have to think
a lot and then you keep on doingit you keep on doing it and then
(16:48):
you end up like perfecting thisthing but it's still challenging
right like having all thesedifferent parts going at the
same time Or people playing indifferent time signatures, like
their drummer Danny Carey isplaying in some odd time
signature, and then Adam's doingsomething and Justin's doing
something else, and Maynard'ssinging either a counter melody
(17:10):
over that or just doing whatMaynard does.
So, yeah, I mean, seven isdefinitely an odd number.
I think seven is funny because Iwas born in July, which is the
seventh month.
Um, so that has a deeperconnection to me as well, but
(17:31):
also being like a Leo, which Idon't know, like, I don't know
if that's the right sign for me,to be honest with you.
I don't feel like a Leo.
I'm not, I'm not really thatlike super outgoing.
Like I am sometimes I just like,I don't really like big crowds.
I like smaller get togethers,you know, more intimate
settings.
(17:51):
I feel like it's just more fun.
You can just talk about moregenuine stuff.
as opposed to larger crowds, Ifeel like, you know, you're
like, you're like scraping thebottom for like, you're like, oh
yeah, like the weather's great.
And you're like, hey, do youbelieve in aliens?
Like, it's like, you can talkabout that stuff with smaller
groups of people.
I feel like some, you know,bigger groups there, they might
be like, um, no, like they'relike, um, no, I believe in
(18:13):
something else.
And then you get into anargument, you know, not that I
do, but some people might.
The number 13 is equivalent withtransformation, rebirth,
breaking convention and it'svery sacred in some magical
circles yeah that's um that'svery interesting so i think
(18:36):
we're gonna stop there thank youso much for listening to me and
i hope you guys have a greatweek and peace and love thanks
everybody we'll see you nexttime
Welcome, one and all, to the Magic Music Podcast.
I'm your host, Joseph Matthew,and in this series, we will be
discussing various occult andesoteric practices in music,
art, and culture.
So sit back, relax, and let'sexplore the unknown together.
Enjoy.
(00:21):
And the burning bush isinteresting because I was
watching Joe Rogan the other dayand he mentioned something about
the acacia bush and how it youknow they find like DMT in that
(00:42):
plant which is pretty crazy youknow so they were able to find a
way to extract something fromthat plant and use it for
something that was going to makethem trip out and then Moses had
like just was seeing this thingon fire maybe, or he described
(01:02):
it in a different way, maybesparkling or something.
It's very interesting.
So skulls or skeletons, shadowmeaning is fear of death and
endings, which is extremelycommon.
I think, you know, people wantto stay alive for as long as
they can if they're having agood life.
(01:24):
But if they're having a badlife, then it's like, well,
what's the point?
you want to be having the bestlife possible the spiritual
meaning skeletons istransformation letting go of the
ego and ancestral communicationso transformation is a big thing
(01:44):
you know you can either grow ordiminish and sometimes you go
back and forth you grow in acareer but you don't have a
family so you feel diminishedand then you want to You don't
want to sacrifice your careerand you don't want to start a
family.
Let's say it's a man who'smaking a lot of money and just
wants to have fun.
(02:06):
Maybe he'll make a lot of moneyand then get married later in
life, but might be a littlelonely when he's younger.
But he's just focusing ongetting money.
That's his desire.
That's his will.
His will is to gain wealth.
Maybe he's very knowledgeable atone subject.
Who knows?
(02:26):
But he's using that knowledgeand he's just taking it and
being like, okay, this iscapitalism.
This is the world that we livein, at least in America.
Which I'm not for or against it.
It's how the way things work.
And humanity has its flaws, forsure.
But we just have to keep ontrucking through and just be the
(02:52):
best people that we can be.
And then, you know, letting goof the ego is tough for some
people.
They're really holding on to itas tight as they can.
And then if it dissolves away,like imagine it dissolving away.
It puts you back in your place.
It humbles you.
It really does.
Once the ego is dissolved,whether that's, you know,
(03:16):
through meditation or justpersonal will, just thinking
about it or psychedelic drugs,It's really an experience like
no other.
You don't feel as constrained inyour body.
And then the ancestralcommunication, yeah, with
relatives or people that youhaven't even met that have your
(03:39):
DNA, which is insane.
In many traditions, death indreams means change, but not
actual death.
I think dreams prepare you fordeath.
I think they prepare you fordeath.
nodding out every night you knowthat feeling of like kind of
just going somewhere which youknow i have no idea where eyes
(04:05):
the shadow meaning is paranoiabeing watched like that uh that
one song spiritual meaning innervision third eye awakening
divine perception so yeah whenyou get messages And I'm going
(04:25):
to quote Frank Herbert in thefirst part of the new Dune movie
with Timothee Chalamet, which isamazing, by the way.
I love that movie so much.
So good.
I saw part one and part two.
It opens up in part one.
It says, you know, dreams aremessages from the deep.
Yeah, the deep.
Like, what is the deep?
What does it mean?
(04:45):
You know, is it a place?
Is it a feeling?
I think it's whatever you thinkit is and how it helps you.
Recurring eye might mean yourintuition is trying to get your
attention.
Yeah, intuition, you know, it'sjust kind of...
If you have a feeling aboutsomebody or something, it's like
(05:08):
your body's like warning systemin a way.
Which when we were...
Before we evolved into humans, Ithink, it's still this
biological thing in us whereit's like fight or flight.
There's something else out therethat's trying to pull you.
Pull you somewhere, good or bad.
(05:29):
Pyramids are triangles.
It's a symbol of spiritualascent, balance of mind, body,
spirit, ancient wisdom.
A triangle pointing up equalsaspiration.
Pointing down equals groundingor feminine energy.
That's pretty interesting.
(05:49):
The mind, body, and the spirit,yeah.
the father and the son and theholy spirit you know the the
holy trinity is prevalent youknow throughout time and i
believe that you have a physicalbody you have the mind and you
have this other realm this otherthing that drives like cells to
(06:13):
divide like where does thatforce that initial spark come
from it's like That's a life.
It's just like a spark.
You're just doing things.
You're trying to be creative.
You're trying to give yourself asense of purpose and everyone
needs a sense of purpose ifyou're going to have a
functioning society and one thatworks pretty well.
(06:33):
Everyone needs a purpose,whether that's a job or loving
somebody or an animal or athing, you know, like writing or
recording a song.
or podcast spiders or webs theshadow meaning is manipulation
or feeling trapped like a flydoes man imagine the dude
(06:57):
imagine the fear that's goingthrough that fly's mind of like
oh man like this is it this isthe end you know and like you
can kind of like you know makean ai video from that
perspective but it's that's uhyou can have a dream about that
too You know, spiders, if you'relike terrified of them.
When I was outside earlier, Isaw like a bunch of small
(07:17):
spiders, but they don't botherme.
Unless it's like a really biginsect, like a digger bee.
And those things are huge.
Those things are massive.
Spiritual meaning, creation,weaving fate, feminine
archetypal energy with...
So think arcane or the fates.
(07:39):
Okay.
Okay.
Seeing yourself in a web couldmean you're caught in karmic or
spiritual patterns.
Like you're wrapped up in thisburrito.
You know, this never-endingburrito that you're like rolled
up in.
It's a cycle.
The Ouroboros.
The Ouroboros is just the cycleof life.
You know, a snake eating its owntail.
(08:02):
Which I love that symbol.
It's a very powerful symbol.
The moon.
It's a symbol of intuition,cycles, the hidden feminine
energy.
A full moon can mean you're in atime of emotional or psychic
fullness.
Yeah, I guess depending on thephase, you know, as well.
(08:25):
Crescent moon, like, yeah,crescent moon often hints at
something growing in thespiritual realm.
That's pretty fascinating.
Yeah, it's like, you know, goingfrom a crescent to a full moon,
this, like, growth and, like...
this breathing, you know, thisin and out, the tides.
(08:49):
It's basically what it is.
It's like tides going in andout.
It shifts with the moon in thephases, which is, it's strange
when you think about it likethat, right?
That the moon apparentlycontrols the tides.
So birds, especially blackbirdsor owls, The shadow meaning is
omen, message from theunderworld.
(09:11):
I saw a crow the other day and Iwas like, I have to be careful
driving.
And as I was driving home fromwork, my first thought was like,
okay, that's weird.
I'm just a single crow and likecrows are usually bad luck,
right?
So you have to be extra carefuldriving just because, you know,
you never know.
So I'm driving and then this guyis like zooming up behind me and
(09:34):
like has to like pass me orsomething.
He was going pretty fast.
So it might've been warning meabout that.
Honestly, like seeing thathappen and like I had enough
time to like swerve out of theway if I needed to.
So maybe it was a sign.
I have no idea.
Spiritual meaning, freedom,transcendence, messenger from
(09:55):
the spirit world.
So something coming to you, aliaison, a messenger.
messenger delivering somethingto you of vast importance that
you can either take or or notbut you probably should because
(10:16):
it'd probably be rude to likenot accept that message or like
it can be knocking on your doorconsistently like like you know
like you have to like open thedoor at some point owls
especially signify hiddenknowledge or witchy intuition
there's something about you knowthe owls like people worship
(10:36):
this uh like an owl god orsomething called like malik i
think i'm not sure if that'sright but it's this massive owl
god and it's like people worshipthis thing um like politicians
and like you know apparentlylike world leaders and stuff so
maybe maybe they know somethingthat we don't um about owls and
(10:57):
all that stuff man or maybe it'ssymbolic for something else like
another deity But who knows?
I've never been to one of thoseceremonies before.
Doors and keys.
So a symbol of transition,initiation, unlocking spiritual
insight.
(11:20):
So it's moving from one thing toanother.
Like you've accessed this thingby maybe doing good deeds or
like you gave out or volunteeredat a soup kitchen or like you
gave out food to the homeless.
Like maybe...
something if if you don't didsomething positive it's going to
open a door you know like youfound the right like key or
(11:42):
skeleton key i think the mastersmaybe have like just a skeleton
key like a spiritual skeleton askeleton it's hard to say a
spiritual skeleton key to unlockso many doors in their minds
that can lead them to differentavenues and different paths you
know if they really put theirmind to it and dreaming of a
(12:05):
locked door may mean you'reresisting an opportunity a key
suggests you're ready so thatkey you know symbolically is you
moving towards somethingsomething greater and hopefully
something more positive water sooceans floods rain the shadow
(12:29):
meaning is overwhelm emotionalchaos you know getting hit by a
wave, a wave of stress, sadness,anger, envy, gluttony, you know,
things like that, just emotions,like being so overrun that you
(12:50):
can't control it, that it justgets continuously like being
pumped into you from somewhere.
The spiritual meaning isemotional healing, subconscious
energy, and deep inner truths.
Yeah, so emotional healing, likebeing overwhelmed by something.
Because if you suppresssomething, it's going to come
(13:11):
back to haunt you in differentforms.
It's happened to me.
So calm water is equivalent topeace.
Stormy water is equivalent tonot facing something emotional
that you're trying to repress.
That's why therapy is good.
Therapy is good for people.
(13:32):
Witches, shamans, or mysteriousfigures.
It's a symbol of your innermystic, a guide, or a challenge.
So something that's maybe yourfuture self or something that's
like your essence.
(13:54):
And you are like guidingyourself along to this path of
glory and truth, maybe.
If they're helping you, trustthe path.
But if they're threatening, itmay be time for shadow work,
which means if something islike, hey, come here, I'm going
(14:15):
to expose you to all this stuffthat's going to harm you.
It's like drinking a poison.
You're intentionally doing it.
You can't really help that ifyou go with a positive entity or
a negative entity.
You know, there's two paths youcan take.
There's like one option andthere's another option.
(14:36):
There's really nothing inbetween.
Either like good or bad, or youcan start out good and maybe
like be misleading you intosomething.
A woolen sheep's clothing, ifyou will.
Let's see.
So, and then bonus numbers.
So three is a trinity.
(14:58):
Body, mind, and spirit.
or manifestation.
So think of a triangle, thinkof, you know, three intersecting
circles, like a Venn diagram orsomething.
It represents the union, theperfect union of those, those
three things of mind or body,mind, and spirit.
(15:19):
And if you focus on each one andyou can get, you know, better at
doing those things, you can workout, you can make your body
stronger.
But you can be strong and havean unhealthy mind and vice
versa.
You know, you can be brilliantbut have an unhealthy body.
The spirit, like, differentthings can take a hold of you,
(15:45):
you know, and you can manipulatethe spirit world.
And the spirit world canmanipulate you.
So seven is a sacred number.
It's, you know, revolves aroundmystery.
initiation into something so youknow a lot of bands actually use
(16:06):
you know seven four seven eighttime signature and that's like
you know counting instead oflike you know one two three four
you're counting one two threefour five six seven and then you
go back to one there's a lot ofsongs that utilize that we'll
talk about you know the bandtool a lot because they have a
(16:27):
lot of not you know like four onthe four type beats um they use
you know a bunch of they're intonumerology and stuff and you
know the way they change timesignatures is really it's like
effortless you know but it's noteasy i'm sure they have to think
a lot and then you keep on doingit you keep on doing it and then
(16:48):
you end up like perfecting thisthing but it's still challenging
right like having all thesedifferent parts going at the
same time Or people playing indifferent time signatures, like
their drummer Danny Carey isplaying in some odd time
signature, and then Adam's doingsomething and Justin's doing
something else, and Maynard'ssinging either a counter melody
(17:10):
over that or just doing whatMaynard does.
So, yeah, I mean, seven isdefinitely an odd number.
I think seven is funny because Iwas born in July, which is the
seventh month.
Um, so that has a deeperconnection to me as well, but
(17:31):
also being like a Leo, which Idon't know, like, I don't know
if that's the right sign for me,to be honest with you.
I don't feel like a Leo.
I'm not, I'm not really thatlike super outgoing.
Like I am sometimes I just like,I don't really like big crowds.
I like smaller get togethers,you know, more intimate
settings.
(17:51):
I feel like it's just more fun.
You can just talk about moregenuine stuff.
as opposed to larger crowds, Ifeel like, you know, you're
like, you're like scraping thebottom for like, you're like, oh
yeah, like the weather's great.
And you're like, hey, do youbelieve in aliens?
Like, it's like, you can talkabout that stuff with smaller
groups of people.
I feel like some, you know,bigger groups there, they might
be like, um, no, like they'relike, um, no, I believe in
(18:13):
something else.
And then you get into anargument, you know, not that I
do, but some people might.
The number 13 is equivalent withtransformation, rebirth,
breaking convention and it'svery sacred in some magical
circles yeah that's um that'svery interesting so i think
(18:36):
we're gonna stop there thank youso much for listening to me and
i hope you guys have a greatweek and peace and love thanks
everybody we'll see you nexttime
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