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SPEAKER_00 (00:00):
Welcome, one and all, to the Magic Music Podcast.
I'm your host, Joseph Matthew,and in this series, we will be
discussing various occult andesoteric practices in music,
art, and culture.
So sit back, relax, and let'sexplore the unknown together.
Enjoy.
(00:21):
So archetypes in them are sharedacross humanity.
People have very similarexperiences, which I think since
we are all connected, we're allrelated.
It totally makes sense.
(00:41):
And dreams are spiritual tools,not just psychological quirks.
So don't dismiss your dreams,people.
You should just definitelyembrace them and love them, even
if they're scary.
I know it's hard, but yeah, justtry to know really just look at
(01:03):
it and say well what is thistrying to tell me what can i
take away from this so now iwould like to touch on some
youngian dream work so how canyou analyze your dreams so for
(01:26):
instance i shared the dream Ihad a few years ago in Georgia
with my great aunts.
I essentially typed in a promptto ChatGPT describing the entire
dream as best I could.
The most I can remember aboutit.
(01:48):
So, and if you want to try thisas well, it's very, very fun.
Yeah, just go on ChatGPT andtype in whatever dream you want
to and it'll spit out somethingthat hopefully helps you.
You want to share certainthings.
(02:09):
One is the setting.
So where did the dream takeplace?
Two is characters.
Who is in it?
Anyone you recognized?
Animals, strange beings,spirits, et cetera.
Objects or symbols is three.
Anything that stood out, a door,a mountain, a mirror, et cetera,
(02:33):
et cetera.
Four is emotions.
How did you feel during thedream?
And five is events.
What happened in order or asbest you can remember.
So start with those five.
If you can really get a, try tobuild a clear picture, then that
can really, really help ChatGPThelp you.
(02:56):
Let's see, I typed in theprompt.
and it spit out some reallyinteresting points that i never
really thought about before thedream scene sitting with your
great aunts you're seatedbetween your two great aunts who
(03:16):
have passed away but they appearyounger your age and speak to
you gently and clearly and itsays this setup is loaded with
meaning So here we go.
Ancestral archetypes and thefeminine self.
(03:36):
In Jungian terms, relatives,especially from older
generations, can representaspects of the self that connect
to ancestral wisdom, familylegacy, and emotional
inheritance.
The family legacy one says,really stood out to me because
(03:58):
on my dad's side of the family,there are just amazing...
Sorry, both sides of my family,I have amazing uncles and aunts,
grandparents, so on and soforth.
But my dad's side specifically,there was an emphasis on keeping
it in the family.
There was so much love andjust...
(04:26):
This caring attitude that I wasso fortunate to be able to grow
up in and around thesewonderful, wonderful people.
And my grandfather, my pop-pop,who's no longer with us, he was
such an inspiration to me.
He was so open-minded.
(04:47):
He was so interested in what Iwas doing at the time.
My father as well.
My father...
is an amazing inspiration to meas well and then i want to carry
on that legacy right like intothe future for my for my
children so them appearingyounger at my own age so let's
(05:13):
say like 26 25 26 suggests amerging or reconnection of
timelines perhaps yourunconscious is showing that you
carry them within you now You'reat a stage in life where you're
stepping into the wisdom,traits, or lessons that they
embodied.
(05:35):
They're not just visiting me.
They're reflecting me.
I believe that.
I believe that they are with me.
They're in my DNA, right?
I hold a piece of them.
And to know that, I have unclesand aunts that have passed away
(05:57):
grandparents, and I believe thatthere's a chunk of them inside
of me.
I really do.
And to carry on what theybelieved.
On my dad's side, I had a lot offamily members that believed in
God and Jesus and were avidchurchgoers, but they were never
(06:21):
judgmental.
I hear horror stories aboutThese parents that want to force
their child to conform to whatthey believe in.
And I don't think that's theright way.
I think you should expose yourchild to your religion and then
say, hey, there's also Buddhismand Judaism and so many others.
(06:48):
I wasn't introduced to theoccult at all.
I had to seek it myself.
I had to seek that, which Icould not find, but I resonate
with it so much now.
So I took the core aspects ofChristianity and I still apply
(07:09):
it to my life.
Like asking, like, what wouldJesus do?
The story of Jesus, which I'mgoing to have an episode just
dedicated to the story of Jesus.
Even though I'm not a Christianper se, I respect it.
I respect all religions.
So to move on, let's see.
Message from the unconscious orthe beyond.
(07:32):
The phrase, we're both okay andyou'll see us soon, which is
something that I do rememberthem saying.
It can hit heavy, but Jung wouldencourage you to not interpret
it literally.
Instead, it may symbolize areconciliation with death,
accepting the loss and findingpeace.
(07:56):
A spiritual message ofconnection that the bond between
you and them is unbroken.
Or an invitation to embrace yourown mortality in a sacred,
life-affirming way.
And this is a huge part ofJungian individuation.
And that phrase could also meanyou'll understand us soon or
(08:21):
you'll meet the part of yourselfthat carries us soon.
And I think I did.
I think it was possibly a signbecause when my wife and I were
living in Georgia, we werestruggling because we didn't
(08:44):
have a lot of friends or familyaround.
So we made the decision to moveback to our home state.
So maybe that was...
an echo from my relatives tosay, hey, it's time to come back
(09:04):
home.
And now we're here.
So, and it's been a few years.
So I know many people who havegone off on their own and they
go back to their home state ortheir hometown and they settle
down and they have kids or theymight move again, but there's
something that calls you backsometimes to the place where you
grew up and where you were born.
(09:27):
So the couch that we weresitting on, a symbol of holding
and reflection.
So it says you're all on acouch, soft, intimate, and
domestic.
In dreams, a couch or sofa isoften a space of conversation,
support, inner stillness, oreven therapy.
(09:49):
Which I do not go to therapy,but I may in the future.
Still thinking about it.
But we know if you guys go totherapy and how it's helping
you.
My wife goes to therapy.
She says it helps her a lot.
But I don't know if I haveanything in my life that's
really stressful right now.
I've gone through a lot ofstressful things in my life with
my house and different thingsover the years.
(10:13):
But as of right now, I think Imight hold off for a little bit.
But yeah, we'll see.
So the couch is a place wherethe inner psyche, which is you,
meets the ancestral or spiritualthem.
and dialogues so it's almostlike a safe meeting spot where
(10:33):
you can both transcend into thatthat's the place where you're
going to feel most comfortablewhether in a couch or a bed or
in a house and it was in a houseand i think that's very telling
they were always very warm andkind to me so it was very very
familiar So the takeaway is thatthis dream may be an initiation.
(11:02):
It reflects a moment where yourunconscious is presenting a deep
truth.
You are now in a phase ofintegration.
You're being shown that thosewho came before you, especially
women, with meaning in yourlineage, are still part of you,
evolving with you.
And the fact that they're atpeace, that may be your soul's
(11:25):
way of saying, You aresupported.
You're not alone.
And you're walking in alignment.
When I woke up from that dream,I felt sadness, but I also felt
warmth and love.
(11:45):
It might have been a part of methat didn't mourn their deaths
properly or other familymembers' deaths.
And I bottled it up and it justall...
float out in that one dream ofjust a surge of emotion.
Yeah, this is fascinating stuff.
Stuff that I didn't think aboutbefore.
(12:07):
How can dreams be applied tosongwriting?
And I know we touched on a few,we touched on a few examples of
musicians doing this.
taking what they learned in adream or what they saw or what
they heard and writing a song ora riff.
(12:31):
So dreams can be a direct lineto your subconscious, which
means wild imagery, raw emotion,poetic logic, and symbolic
storytelling.
All the things great songs aremade of.
So here's how you can applydreams to songwriting.
And this is something that I'venever...
(12:52):
done before but i woulddefinitely like to try so one
you can mine dreams for lyricsand imagery dreams don't follow
rules they serve up surrealmetaphors and emotional truth
that makes them perfect forsongwriting so dreamline to
(13:15):
lyric if you wake up with astrange phrase or snippet just
write it down Just keep ajournal on your nightstand with
a pen ready to go so you canjust roll over, grab it, jot it
down, and there you go.
Even one weird sentence can be averse hook or the line in the
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chorus.
Use dream logic.
Don't worry if it makes sense.
Lean into the mystery.
Lean into that mysticism.
What does this mean for myselfand what can it mean for my fans
and for other people?
(14:00):
Your fans are going to feel theemotion, even if it's not
literal.
So if it's a made up story, thenthat's fine too.
It doesn't have to be a personalthing that occurred.
So for instance, in the dream,if a voice says, I watched the
sky fold into itself like paper,You can write a lyric that says,
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the sky folded like origami andI walked into the crease.
So things can be interpreted somany different ways.
It's however you feel is goingto best be applied to a theme or
whatever you were writing aboutor going through.
Two, you can use dream journalsas creative prompts.
(14:49):
So yeah, just keep a notebookdream journal by your bed and
write down strange images,dialogue, feelings, or settings.
Then ask, what's the story here?
What's the emotion trying tosurface?
Let me try to pinpoint that, youknow?
Your dream might not be the fullsong, but it's the spark.
(15:13):
You can shape it into verses orstructure it around a chorus
that captures the dream'smessage.
That spark is important.
The spark of life itself,whether that's what started the
Big Bang or an idea in yourhead, it's the same thing.
If you take that jump, if youtake that initial snap of
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intuition and will to go throughwith something, even if you're
terrified, you're still enactingthat will upon it.
Three, translate archetypes intocharacters.
Young style dreams often containarchetypes.
The shadow, the guide, thelover, the inner child, etc.
(16:04):
These can become vividcharacters in your songs.
If you see a shadow figure, itmight become the villain or a
ghost in the song.
If it's a dream lover, it couldbe an idealized version of
intimacy or a longing.
there are so many love songsthat i thought they were so
(16:29):
corny when i was younger but nowand i listen to it i go wow like
i love the band Sade and there'sthis whole stereotype about them
it's like you just listen toSade when you're gonna have sex
or be intimate with somebody buti was i bumped Sade in the car
like you know the sweetest tabooIt's a masterpiece.
(16:53):
I have Love Deluxe on vinyl too,which is a brilliant record.
I love all their stuff.
They're an amazing band, amazinglive band.
So if you see a spiritual guide,maybe they sing you a truth and
you haven't owned it yet.
Like there's some kind of wallthat's up and if you write it
down in real life, then thatwall will come down.
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Four, dreams.
equal emotional blueprints.
Sometimes you don't remember thefull dream, but you remember the
feeling that you had.
Use that emotion as yourproduction guide or melody
inspiration.
Did the dream feel heavy?
Use a slower tempo or maybewrite in a minor key.
(17:43):
Was the dream mystical?
Maybe add reverb or delay orphase, flange, different effects
and plugins.
The sky's the limit with thatstuff.
Or shimmering synths or guitars.
Was the dream chaotic?
(18:04):
Use glitchy textures or rhythmictension.
Maybe you have someone singing avocal line That's in 4-4, but
then you have the instrumentsare in a different time
signature, like 7-4.
That could be kind ofinteresting as well, how they
(18:25):
intertwine and circle back tothe same point of reference,
maybe.
Five is lucid dreaming and songincubation.
So get a little weird with it.
Get a little esoteric.
Who gives a shit?
Before sleep, ask yourself, whatmelody does my soul want to sing
tonight?
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Are you anxious?
Are you calm?
Are you jealous?
What's going on in your life?
What message do I need to turninto my music?
And some musicians would keep aninstrument nearby to record
(19:06):
ideas that they dreamt.
If you keep your phone next toyour bed, just hit the voice
record button.
and keep the guitar like rightnext to your bed.
And if you wake up with amelody, try to remember it and
play it so that you have itsaved and documented.
And then a month later, ifyou're sifting through your
voice memos, which I have manyof and many song ideas, you
(19:31):
might find that specific one andjust run with it or it fits into
what the drummer was playing,something along those lines.
So we talked about, yeah, realworld inspiration like Paul
McCartney, Dream the Melody forYesterday, Billy Joel, drum to
(19:51):
full chord progressions.
Tori Amos, brilliant pianist,brilliant singer.
I suggest you check out hermusic.
She often writes songs fromdreamlike or subconscious
states.
And the great Tom Waits oncesaid he hears songs in his
dreams like they're coming froma ghost, ghost-like radio
(20:12):
station.
It's creepy as fuck.
So yeah, let's try to conjure asong from the subconscious.
It's part ritual, part creativeexercise.
It's designed to take a dreamfragment, emotion, or image and
(20:33):
spin it into a song form.
So you'll need a notebook or adigital document.
You can use your laptop if youwant or your phone.
Optional is instrument voicerecorder or a DAW, digital audio
workstation like Logic Pro orPro Tools or even Audacity.
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They have some really good freeones out there.
And last but not least, a quietvibe or candle to set the mood
if you're into that.
So step one is to recall a dreamfragment.
Think of a dream that you'vehad.
It can be recently or a fewyears ago.
(21:22):
Something that kind of stuckwith you.
Ask yourself, what was thestrongest image that I saw?
What was the emotion?
Was there a line of dialogue,sound, or a symbol perhaps?
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Step two is free write.
So you can set a timer for aboutfive minutes and try to write
without stopping based on thatdream image or the emotion that
you felt.
Let it flow.
Don't be afraid to be messy.
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Don't be afraid to be raw.
Just try to splurge everythingout onto the page that you can.
There's no right or wrong here.
Just enact your will and get itdown on paper.
Don't overthink it as well.
I'm a big overthinker.
So from me to you guys, don'toverthink this.
(22:29):
It's supposed to be fun.
So here's some prompts if youget stuck.
So for instance, you can say, inthe dream, I felt like...
The couch was a place where...
If I could have asked themanything, it would be...
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Just let your unconscious mindspeak for itself.
Use the pen and paper as avessel for the subconscious.
If you think too much into it,it might not be what you want.
(23:13):
And then you'll have to go backand correct things.
So step three is pick a vibe.
So translate the emotion of thedream into a musical vibe.
If it's a peaceful dream, dreamychords, you know, seven chords,
(23:36):
really just lush, full soundingchords or soft, intimate
melodies.
with beautiful textures imbuedthroughout.
If it's mysterious, try a minorkey or eerie textures,
(23:59):
dissonance.
Grief but love can bebittersweet, folk, or indie
ballad.
Surreal can be, again, glitchy,ambient, or spoken word.
(24:23):
If you're using an instrument,play with progressions or
rhythms that feel like thedream.
Try to get in touch with thatpart of you and let the dream
manifest in reality.
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Step four is extract the songseeds.
So look back at your writing andhighlight vivid lines, which can
be lyrical gold, like a fuckinggold mine, repeating ideas and
emotional anchors.
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These are your building blocksfor your song or multiple songs.
So for example, a dream line,could be, they said they were
okay and I'd see them soon.
And a lyrical hook could be,they said they were fine and
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I'll find them in the quiet.
But that's just an example.
There are so many ways to spinthat and so many words to use.
But just write down what youfeel is right in your heart.
Step five is build yourstructure.
Pick a structure to startshaping it.
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Verse, chorus, verse, chorus,bridge, chorus, or a freedom or
free form piece that buildsorganically from your dream.
So like what's gonna be thechorus-worthy emotion?
Do you want it to start off sadand melancholic and then burst
(26:11):
into very positive anduplifting?
chorus or do you want it to bethe opposite start out really
upbeat and then get really likeambient and a little maybe a
little sad in the chorusdepending on the vibe whatever
the vibe you want to be likewhat's the message or the
transformation that's happeningthroughout the song it could be
(26:33):
very you could have a happy songthat's just continuously happy
throughout or a really sad songthat's really sad throughout And
this is optional, but you canname the song based on the
dream.
So dream titles can be killersong titles.
(26:56):
Like, you know, in terms of myaunts, it suggests couch between
worlds, when the dead lookyoung, soon, or folded sky.
So guys, in conclusion, dreamsare fucking crazy.
And There's an unlimitedpossibility of messages and
(27:24):
ideas to pull from.
The dream world is your oyster,but also the physical world is
your oyster.
If you have good intentions,there's nothing that's stopping
you from achieving what youwant.
As long as you're positive andyou do your best to help other
(27:46):
people and you in turn will helpyourself get better.
And collaboration is a bigaspect as well.
You can talk to people who'vehad other dreams and get
inspiration from them.
Or if you're in a band, just thecollaborative effort between,
let's say a group of four guysplaying in a band, all of them
(28:09):
bring something different to thetable.
All of them have their part toplay.
There are drummers that writelyrics, guitarists, just singers
that write lyrics in a band.
But I suggest that you go outand you collaborate with as many
people as possible.
(28:29):
It can only enrich your life.
It can't diminish it.
Unless you encounter really justnarcissistic, horrible people
that are very self-absorbed,then you should probably stay
away from them or hope that theycan learn from their actions.
But guys, let's make the dreamreal.
(28:52):
And I'd love to hear if you guystry this or have tried this in
the past.
You could just comment on thepage, comment on the podcast.
You can shoot me a text as well.
I have the link set up onBuzzsprout.
So if you go to the profile, youshould be able to text me.
(29:12):
And in conclusion, I just wantto say say thank you so much
everyone from the bottom of myheart for listening to this
segment on dreams and all thedifferent parts that i posted
and i also want to give a shoutout to joel from sweetwater um i
(29:34):
recently ordered a condensermicrophone from them it is the
um the p120 condenser microphoneAnd I love it.
It's incredible.
And huge shout out to them andthe team for making that a
reality for me.
So thanks, guys.
(29:54):
Thank you for listening.
And I will see you next time.
Welcome, one and all, to the Magic Music Podcast.
I'm your host, Joseph Matthew,and in this series, we will be
discussing various occult andesoteric practices in music,
art, and culture.
So sit back, relax, and let'sexplore the unknown together.
Enjoy.
(00:21):
So archetypes in them are sharedacross humanity.
People have very similarexperiences, which I think since
we are all connected, we're allrelated.
It totally makes sense.
(00:41):
And dreams are spiritual tools,not just psychological quirks.
So don't dismiss your dreams,people.
You should just definitelyembrace them and love them, even
if they're scary.
I know it's hard, but yeah, justtry to know really just look at
(01:03):
it and say well what is thistrying to tell me what can i
take away from this so now iwould like to touch on some
youngian dream work so how canyou analyze your dreams so for
(01:26):
instance i shared the dream Ihad a few years ago in Georgia
with my great aunts.
I essentially typed in a promptto ChatGPT describing the entire
dream as best I could.
The most I can remember aboutit.
(01:48):
So, and if you want to try thisas well, it's very, very fun.
Yeah, just go on ChatGPT andtype in whatever dream you want
to and it'll spit out somethingthat hopefully helps you.
You want to share certainthings.
(02:09):
One is the setting.
So where did the dream takeplace?
Two is characters.
Who is in it?
Anyone you recognized?
Animals, strange beings,spirits, et cetera.
Objects or symbols is three.
Anything that stood out, a door,a mountain, a mirror, et cetera,
(02:33):
et cetera.
Four is emotions.
How did you feel during thedream?
And five is events.
What happened in order or asbest you can remember.
So start with those five.
If you can really get a, try tobuild a clear picture, then that
can really, really help ChatGPThelp you.
(02:56):
Let's see, I typed in theprompt.
and it spit out some reallyinteresting points that i never
really thought about before thedream scene sitting with your
great aunts you're seatedbetween your two great aunts who
(03:16):
have passed away but they appearyounger your age and speak to
you gently and clearly and itsays this setup is loaded with
meaning So here we go.
Ancestral archetypes and thefeminine self.
(03:36):
In Jungian terms, relatives,especially from older
generations, can representaspects of the self that connect
to ancestral wisdom, familylegacy, and emotional
inheritance.
The family legacy one says,really stood out to me because
(03:58):
on my dad's side of the family,there are just amazing...
Sorry, both sides of my family,I have amazing uncles and aunts,
grandparents, so on and soforth.
But my dad's side specifically,there was an emphasis on keeping
it in the family.
There was so much love andjust...
(04:26):
This caring attitude that I wasso fortunate to be able to grow
up in and around thesewonderful, wonderful people.
And my grandfather, my pop-pop,who's no longer with us, he was
such an inspiration to me.
He was so open-minded.
(04:47):
He was so interested in what Iwas doing at the time.
My father as well.
My father...
is an amazing inspiration to meas well and then i want to carry
on that legacy right like intothe future for my for my
children so them appearingyounger at my own age so let's
(05:13):
say like 26 25 26 suggests amerging or reconnection of
timelines perhaps yourunconscious is showing that you
carry them within you now You'reat a stage in life where you're
stepping into the wisdom,traits, or lessons that they
embodied.
(05:35):
They're not just visiting me.
They're reflecting me.
I believe that.
I believe that they are with me.
They're in my DNA, right?
I hold a piece of them.
And to know that, I have unclesand aunts that have passed away
(05:57):
grandparents, and I believe thatthere's a chunk of them inside
of me.
I really do.
And to carry on what theybelieved.
On my dad's side, I had a lot offamily members that believed in
God and Jesus and were avidchurchgoers, but they were never
(06:21):
judgmental.
I hear horror stories aboutThese parents that want to force
their child to conform to whatthey believe in.
And I don't think that's theright way.
I think you should expose yourchild to your religion and then
say, hey, there's also Buddhismand Judaism and so many others.
(06:48):
I wasn't introduced to theoccult at all.
I had to seek it myself.
I had to seek that, which Icould not find, but I resonate
with it so much now.
So I took the core aspects ofChristianity and I still apply
(07:09):
it to my life.
Like asking, like, what wouldJesus do?
The story of Jesus, which I'mgoing to have an episode just
dedicated to the story of Jesus.
Even though I'm not a Christianper se, I respect it.
I respect all religions.
So to move on, let's see.
Message from the unconscious orthe beyond.
(07:32):
The phrase, we're both okay andyou'll see us soon, which is
something that I do rememberthem saying.
It can hit heavy, but Jung wouldencourage you to not interpret
it literally.
Instead, it may symbolize areconciliation with death,
accepting the loss and findingpeace.
(07:56):
A spiritual message ofconnection that the bond between
you and them is unbroken.
Or an invitation to embrace yourown mortality in a sacred,
life-affirming way.
And this is a huge part ofJungian individuation.
And that phrase could also meanyou'll understand us soon or
(08:21):
you'll meet the part of yourselfthat carries us soon.
And I think I did.
I think it was possibly a signbecause when my wife and I were
living in Georgia, we werestruggling because we didn't
(08:44):
have a lot of friends or familyaround.
So we made the decision to moveback to our home state.
So maybe that was...
an echo from my relatives tosay, hey, it's time to come back
(09:04):
home.
And now we're here.
So, and it's been a few years.
So I know many people who havegone off on their own and they
go back to their home state ortheir hometown and they settle
down and they have kids or theymight move again, but there's
something that calls you backsometimes to the place where you
grew up and where you were born.
(09:27):
So the couch that we weresitting on, a symbol of holding
and reflection.
So it says you're all on acouch, soft, intimate, and
domestic.
In dreams, a couch or sofa isoften a space of conversation,
support, inner stillness, oreven therapy.
(09:49):
Which I do not go to therapy,but I may in the future.
Still thinking about it.
But we know if you guys go totherapy and how it's helping
you.
My wife goes to therapy.
She says it helps her a lot.
But I don't know if I haveanything in my life that's
really stressful right now.
I've gone through a lot ofstressful things in my life with
my house and different thingsover the years.
(10:13):
But as of right now, I think Imight hold off for a little bit.
But yeah, we'll see.
So the couch is a place wherethe inner psyche, which is you,
meets the ancestral or spiritualthem.
and dialogues so it's almostlike a safe meeting spot where
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you can both transcend into thatthat's the place where you're
going to feel most comfortablewhether in a couch or a bed or
in a house and it was in a houseand i think that's very telling
they were always very warm andkind to me so it was very very
familiar So the takeaway is thatthis dream may be an initiation.
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It reflects a moment where yourunconscious is presenting a deep
truth.
You are now in a phase ofintegration.
You're being shown that thosewho came before you, especially
women, with meaning in yourlineage, are still part of you,
evolving with you.
And the fact that they're atpeace, that may be your soul's
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way of saying, You aresupported.
You're not alone.
And you're walking in alignment.
When I woke up from that dream,I felt sadness, but I also felt
warmth and love.
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It might have been a part of methat didn't mourn their deaths
properly or other familymembers' deaths.
And I bottled it up and it justall...
float out in that one dream ofjust a surge of emotion.
Yeah, this is fascinating stuff.
Stuff that I didn't think aboutbefore.
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How can dreams be applied tosongwriting?
And I know we touched on a few,we touched on a few examples of
musicians doing this.
taking what they learned in adream or what they saw or what
they heard and writing a song ora riff.
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So dreams can be a direct lineto your subconscious, which
means wild imagery, raw emotion,poetic logic, and symbolic
storytelling.
All the things great songs aremade of.
So here's how you can applydreams to songwriting.
And this is something that I'venever...
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done before but i woulddefinitely like to try so one
you can mine dreams for lyricsand imagery dreams don't follow
rules they serve up surrealmetaphors and emotional truth
that makes them perfect forsongwriting so dreamline to
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lyric if you wake up with astrange phrase or snippet just
write it down Just keep ajournal on your nightstand with
a pen ready to go so you canjust roll over, grab it, jot it
down, and there you go.
Even one weird sentence can be averse hook or the line in the
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chorus.
Use dream logic.
Don't worry if it makes sense.
Lean into the mystery.
Lean into that mysticism.
What does this mean for myselfand what can it mean for my fans
and for other people?
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Your fans are going to feel theemotion, even if it's not
literal.
So if it's a made up story, thenthat's fine too.
It doesn't have to be a personalthing that occurred.
So for instance, in the dream,if a voice says, I watched the
sky fold into itself like paper,You can write a lyric that says,
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the sky folded like origami andI walked into the crease.
So things can be interpreted somany different ways.
It's however you feel is goingto best be applied to a theme or
whatever you were writing aboutor going through.
Two, you can use dream journalsas creative prompts.
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So yeah, just keep a notebookdream journal by your bed and
write down strange images,dialogue, feelings, or settings.
Then ask, what's the story here?
What's the emotion trying tosurface?
Let me try to pinpoint that, youknow?
Your dream might not be the fullsong, but it's the spark.
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You can shape it into verses orstructure it around a chorus
that captures the dream'smessage.
That spark is important.
The spark of life itself,whether that's what started the
Big Bang or an idea in yourhead, it's the same thing.
If you take that jump, if youtake that initial snap of
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intuition and will to go throughwith something, even if you're
terrified, you're still enactingthat will upon it.
Three, translate archetypes intocharacters.
Young style dreams often containarchetypes.
The shadow, the guide, thelover, the inner child, etc.
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These can become vividcharacters in your songs.
If you see a shadow figure, itmight become the villain or a
ghost in the song.
If it's a dream lover, it couldbe an idealized version of
intimacy or a longing.
there are so many love songsthat i thought they were so
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corny when i was younger but nowand i listen to it i go wow like
i love the band Sade and there'sthis whole stereotype about them
it's like you just listen toSade when you're gonna have sex
or be intimate with somebody buti was i bumped Sade in the car
like you know the sweetest tabooIt's a masterpiece.
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I have Love Deluxe on vinyl too,which is a brilliant record.
I love all their stuff.
They're an amazing band, amazinglive band.
So if you see a spiritual guide,maybe they sing you a truth and
you haven't owned it yet.
Like there's some kind of wallthat's up and if you write it
down in real life, then thatwall will come down.
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Four, dreams.
equal emotional blueprints.
Sometimes you don't remember thefull dream, but you remember the
feeling that you had.
Use that emotion as yourproduction guide or melody
inspiration.
Did the dream feel heavy?
Use a slower tempo or maybewrite in a minor key.
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Was the dream mystical?
Maybe add reverb or delay orphase, flange, different effects
and plugins.
The sky's the limit with thatstuff.
Or shimmering synths or guitars.
Was the dream chaotic?
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Use glitchy textures or rhythmictension.
Maybe you have someone singing avocal line That's in 4-4, but
then you have the instrumentsare in a different time
signature, like 7-4.
That could be kind ofinteresting as well, how they
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intertwine and circle back tothe same point of reference,
maybe.
Five is lucid dreaming and songincubation.
So get a little weird with it.
Get a little esoteric.
Who gives a shit?
Before sleep, ask yourself, whatmelody does my soul want to sing
tonight?
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Are you anxious?
Are you calm?
Are you jealous?
What's going on in your life?
What message do I need to turninto my music?
And some musicians would keep aninstrument nearby to record
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ideas that they dreamt.
If you keep your phone next toyour bed, just hit the voice
record button.
and keep the guitar like rightnext to your bed.
And if you wake up with amelody, try to remember it and
play it so that you have itsaved and documented.
And then a month later, ifyou're sifting through your
voice memos, which I have manyof and many song ideas, you
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might find that specific one andjust run with it or it fits into
what the drummer was playing,something along those lines.
So we talked about, yeah, realworld inspiration like Paul
McCartney, Dream the Melody forYesterday, Billy Joel, drum to
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full chord progressions.
Tori Amos, brilliant pianist,brilliant singer.
I suggest you check out hermusic.
She often writes songs fromdreamlike or subconscious
states.
And the great Tom Waits oncesaid he hears songs in his
dreams like they're coming froma ghost, ghost-like radio
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station.
It's creepy as fuck.
So yeah, let's try to conjure asong from the subconscious.
It's part ritual, part creativeexercise.
It's designed to take a dreamfragment, emotion, or image and
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spin it into a song form.
So you'll need a notebook or adigital document.
You can use your laptop if youwant or your phone.
Optional is instrument voicerecorder or a DAW, digital audio
workstation like Logic Pro orPro Tools or even Audacity.
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They have some really good freeones out there.
And last but not least, a quietvibe or candle to set the mood
if you're into that.
So step one is to recall a dreamfragment.
Think of a dream that you'vehad.
It can be recently or a fewyears ago.
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Something that kind of stuckwith you.
Ask yourself, what was thestrongest image that I saw?
What was the emotion?
Was there a line of dialogue,sound, or a symbol perhaps?
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Step two is free write.
So you can set a timer for aboutfive minutes and try to write
without stopping based on thatdream image or the emotion that
you felt.
Let it flow.
Don't be afraid to be messy.
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Don't be afraid to be raw.
Just try to splurge everythingout onto the page that you can.
There's no right or wrong here.
Just enact your will and get itdown on paper.
Don't overthink it as well.
I'm a big overthinker.
So from me to you guys, don'toverthink this.
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It's supposed to be fun.
So here's some prompts if youget stuck.
So for instance, you can say, inthe dream, I felt like...
The couch was a place where...
If I could have asked themanything, it would be...
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Just let your unconscious mindspeak for itself.
Use the pen and paper as avessel for the subconscious.
If you think too much into it,it might not be what you want.
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And then you'll have to go backand correct things.
So step three is pick a vibe.
So translate the emotion of thedream into a musical vibe.
If it's a peaceful dream, dreamychords, you know, seven chords,
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really just lush, full soundingchords or soft, intimate
melodies.
with beautiful textures imbuedthroughout.
If it's mysterious, try a minorkey or eerie textures,
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dissonance.
Grief but love can bebittersweet, folk, or indie
ballad.
Surreal can be, again, glitchy,ambient, or spoken word.
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If you're using an instrument,play with progressions or
rhythms that feel like thedream.
Try to get in touch with thatpart of you and let the dream
manifest in reality.
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Step four is extract the songseeds.
So look back at your writing andhighlight vivid lines, which can
be lyrical gold, like a fuckinggold mine, repeating ideas and
emotional anchors.
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These are your building blocksfor your song or multiple songs.
So for example, a dream line,could be, they said they were
okay and I'd see them soon.
And a lyrical hook could be,they said they were fine and
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I'll find them in the quiet.
But that's just an example.
There are so many ways to spinthat and so many words to use.
But just write down what youfeel is right in your heart.
Step five is build yourstructure.
Pick a structure to startshaping it.
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Verse, chorus, verse, chorus,bridge, chorus, or a freedom or
free form piece that buildsorganically from your dream.
So like what's gonna be thechorus-worthy emotion?
Do you want it to start off sadand melancholic and then burst
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into very positive anduplifting?
chorus or do you want it to bethe opposite start out really
upbeat and then get really likeambient and a little maybe a
little sad in the chorusdepending on the vibe whatever
the vibe you want to be likewhat's the message or the
transformation that's happeningthroughout the song it could be
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very you could have a happy songthat's just continuously happy
throughout or a really sad songthat's really sad throughout And
this is optional, but you canname the song based on the
dream.
So dream titles can be killersong titles.
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Like, you know, in terms of myaunts, it suggests couch between
worlds, when the dead lookyoung, soon, or folded sky.
So guys, in conclusion, dreamsare fucking crazy.
And There's an unlimitedpossibility of messages and
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ideas to pull from.
The dream world is your oyster,but also the physical world is
your oyster.
If you have good intentions,there's nothing that's stopping
you from achieving what youwant.
As long as you're positive andyou do your best to help other
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people and you in turn will helpyourself get better.
And collaboration is a bigaspect as well.
You can talk to people who'vehad other dreams and get
inspiration from them.
Or if you're in a band, just thecollaborative effort between,
let's say a group of four guysplaying in a band, all of them
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bring something different to thetable.
All of them have their part toplay.
There are drummers that writelyrics, guitarists, just singers
that write lyrics in a band.
But I suggest that you go outand you collaborate with as many
people as possible.
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It can only enrich your life.
It can't diminish it.
Unless you encounter really justnarcissistic, horrible people
that are very self-absorbed,then you should probably stay
away from them or hope that theycan learn from their actions.
But guys, let's make the dreamreal.
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And I'd love to hear if you guystry this or have tried this in
the past.
You could just comment on thepage, comment on the podcast.
You can shoot me a text as well.
I have the link set up onBuzzsprout.
So if you go to the profile, youshould be able to text me.
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And in conclusion, I just wantto say say thank you so much
everyone from the bottom of myheart for listening to this
segment on dreams and all thedifferent parts that i posted
and i also want to give a shoutout to joel from sweetwater um i
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recently ordered a condensermicrophone from them it is the
um the p120 condenser microphoneAnd I love it.
It's incredible.
And huge shout out to them andthe team for making that a
reality for me.
So thanks, guys.
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Thank you for listening.
And I will see you next time.
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