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Hello! In episode 8 I discuss the great french occultist, Eliphas Levi! I touch on his life, legacy and influence in music and modern culture. Explore this topic and more with me as we dive into the great abyss. Take a listen now and don't forget to have some fun. Enjoy!! ☆
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SPEAKER_00 (00:00):
welcome one and all to the magic music podcast i'm
your host joseph matthew and inthis series we will be
discussing various occult andesoteric practices in music art
and culture so sit back relaxand let's explore the unknown
together enjoy Welcome, guys, toepisode number eight.
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Today, we're going to bediscussing Eliphas Levi.
Who exactly was Eliphas Levi?
It was actually a pen name ofAlphonse Louis Constant, who was
born in 1810 and died in 1875.
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He was a French occultist, awriter, ceremonial magician he
had a major influence on themodern revival of western
esotericism so this is a guythat yeah was extremely
influential to people likealistair crowley and other you
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know modern cultists from youknow the 1900s and and beyond
his influence definitely liveson so some key facts about him
In his early life, he originallystudied for the Roman Catholic
priesthood, but left theseminary before ordination.
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His break from Orthodox religionled him to explore mysticism and
esoteric traditions.
That's interesting.
So, I'm sure he started out, youknow, growing up in the church
like I did, and then maybe sawit for what it truly was, or
maybe that...
specific sect that he was in,and he just didn't vibe with it.
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He was like, nah, I'm good.
I'm gonna just take this, I'mgonna go somewhere else with it,
and just find the truth.
The truth for himself.
So his magnum opus, his mostinfluential work, is The Dogma
and Ritual of High Magic, whichhe wrote between 1854 and 1856.
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In this book, he lays out acomprehensive theory of how to
practice ceremonial magic, andhe also integrated ideas from
the Kabbalah, Hermeticism, andother traditions.
So the Kabbalah and Hermeticism,that's something we'll touch on
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in later episodes, for sure.
We'll go into more details forthose practices and my thoughts
on those.
His legacy, Levi is creditedwith popularizing the image of
Baphomet, which he described asa symbolic representation of the
equilibrium of opposites.
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So for example, male and female,or good and evil.
His influence, his ideas deeplyinfluenced later occult groups,
like the Hermetic Order of theGolden Dawn.
And of course, Aleister Crowleyconsidered Levi a spiritual
predecessor.
So just kind of continuing downthe same esoteric path, that
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pathway to find your true innerself, your true inner knowledge
that no one else can do for youexcept you.
So his philosophy was that hesaw magic as a science of the
imagination and willpower,deeply moral and symbolic, Not
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just a system of spells orrituals.
So, yeah, not just wizards andwitches performing magic or
trying to, you know, cursesomebody or hex somebody.
It was a lot deeper than thatand just integrating all of
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these things together that wasvery, very smart of him to do in
his time.
I'm sure it was pretty frownedupon, you know, but he probably
didn't care.
He just wanted to push throughand, you know, just find what it
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meant to him personally andprobably didn't care about
anyone else.
So I'm going to talk about someof his key ideas and beliefs.
So magic as science andmorality.
Levi believed that magic is botha spiritual science and a moral
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practice, grounded in thebalance of natural forces and
universal principles.
So, you know, just look aroundyou.
There are things that occurdaily that should kind of make
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you question how reality works.
there's you know certaingeometric patterns that are
found in nature the sun risesand then you have the moon at
night so kind of just blendingall these things and just taking
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a look at nature itself so forhim true magic involved mastery
of will imagination andknowledge not just superstition
or spell casting So he kind ofwent deep with this.
Enacting your will on somethingis using your own life force to
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push through and to find whatyou truly believe in.
Imagination is just completelylimitless.
You can think of so manydifferent things and Whether or
not you choose to createsomething out of that, that's
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totally up to you.
But there are no boundaries.
And knowledge.
Knowledge is just necessary for,I think, becoming a stronger
person mentally and physically.
You can strengthen your mind andstrengthen your body with
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knowledge.
The more you soak in and themore bullshit that you filter
out, You can achieve very, veryamazing things in life.
The power of the will.
He emphasized the human will asa divine force capable of
shaping reality when properlyfocused and aligned with
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universal laws.
Just taking that step, pushingyourself to do that thing you've
always wanted to do.
And you might fail many times.
But if you pick yourself back upeach time, you might have a
different outcome at the end.
Correspondences and symbolism.
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Levi promoted the idea ofsymbolic correspondences between
the natural world, the humansoul, and divine archetypes,
drawing on Hermeticism,Astrology, and Kabbalah.
And so the Kabbalah, heintegrated Jewish mysticism,
especially the Sephirotic Treeof Life, into his magical
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system.
Levi saw the Kabbalah as auniversal key to unlocking
hidden truths.
I'm going to have a seriesthat's just dedicated to that,
because I'm actually reading abook right now.
I believe I mentioned it inanother episode previously, but
it's called The...
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moon and serpent bumper book ofmagic by alan moore who wrote uh
the watchman a graphic novel andswamp thing a bunch of other
amazing comic books so you havealan moore and then steve moore
they're not related to oneanother even though they have
the same last name but stevemoore was a mentor to alan moore
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actually and steve moore is nolonger with us but alan moore He
recently put out a masterclasson writing and storytelling.
And Alan Moore, I would love todo an episode just on Alan Moore
because he's big into the occultand mysticism and just using
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your own, the human spirit, thehuman will to create art.
whether it's music or a book ora script.
But yeah, that book really,really goes into the Kabbalah
and explains each specific groupof spheres that's there.
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It does a very, very good job ofgoing in depth with those.
So I will have an episode whereI'm going to just touch on all
of those things because it'sjust so fascinating.
And I have just recentlydiscovered it.
I've always known about it, butI never really looked into it
too much.
It just seemed too big for me tocomprehend.
I was like, whoa, this isfucking huge.
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How am I supposed to processthis?
But I'm slowly going through it.
I think I'm on like the eighthor ninth sphere in the book.
So I'm going to try to finish itand then, yeah, make an episode
on it in the future.
So...
Yeah, he utilized the Kabbalah.
Duality and balance.
Central to Levi's worldview wasthe unity of opposites.
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Light and dark, male and female,spirit and matter.
Harmony came from balancingthese forces.
And I think life is a balancingact.
It's trying to find what isgoing to make you shine.
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What's going to make you shine?
Is it dancing?
Is it singing?
Is it playing an instrument?
Is it doing stand-up comedy?
Is it driving really fast inyour car, like being a NASCAR
driver or motorcycle?
Whatever's going to bring yousome element of joy, but also
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knowledge, then maybe, justmaybe, you keep that knowledge
with you.
And if you believe in past livesor even future lives, maybe you
take that knowledge with youinto the next life.
Or you're born just a completelyclean slate with no memory of
your past lives whatsoever.
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Who knows?
But maybe the more knowledge youconsume, maybe it sticks with
you.
So the Baphomet.
The Baphomet, throughouthistory, is regarded...
at least in, you know, popularculture as evil.
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When people see that image ofthe Baphomet, you know, the
demon with the goat's head andthe inverted pentagram,
everyone's like, Jesus Christ,like, like, I mean, the power of
Christ can tell you, like, throwfucking holy water on it.
And it's like, well, instead ofjust like, you know, turning
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away from it.
You could try to learn about ita little bit.
Not that I worship any satanicforces or anything like that.
Personally, I don't.
I'm sure there are a lot ofsatanists out there and people
who worship evil things.
Whatever.
Go crazy.
I mean, as long as you're notharming anybody, or if you're
doing it in private, whatever.
That's fine.
I don't care.
Just do you.
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Levi actually drew the image ofthe Baphomet in 1856.
It's one of the most iconicimages in modern occultism.
And here's what it represents.
Androgyny.
The figure has both male andfemale characteristics,
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symbolizing duality and unity.
You know, men have testosterone,women have estrogen.
I have a little bit of estrogenin me.
you have things that once, ifthey're pushed forward, like
testosterone, I have a lot moretestosterone than I do estrogen.
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So, I have a little bit ofestrogen in me, but that doesn't
make me a woman, you know, butit's just kind of like we have
certain things in us that we,you know, sometimes forget.
The goat head represents theanimal nature of humans, but
under control of of divinereason yeah humans are even
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though we don't like to thinkthat we are like we're
definitely more savage than wewould like to think if evolution
is correct and we come from fromapes or chimpanzees then you
know we we have remnants of thatIf you get really angry or
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frustrated, you know, that'skind of an animalistic behavior.
And if your intention is to harmsomebody, then that's not good.
If someone did you wrong oryou're trying to defend
yourself, that's one thing.
But sometimes people really layinto that really savage nature.
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And maybe they don't mean to,but maybe they just can't
control it.
Torches and pentagrams, thetorch on the head symbolizes
illumination and divine light.
The upright pentagram on theforehead represents spiritual
sovereignty.
Caduceus, the serpent staff, onthe abdomen, symbolizing life
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force, healing, and balance ofopposing energies, like yin and
yang, or masculine and feminine.
One arm points up, the other onepoints down.
Accompanied by the phrase, solveet coagula, dissolve and
coagulate.
The principle of alchemyreferring to breaking things
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apart and recombining them in apure form.
In hermeticism or in alchemy,way back when you had
individuals trying to turn leadinto gold, to turn these
different elements intosomething else, right?
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If you compare a human to aninsect, we're made of the same
atoms.
It's just representeddifferently and expressed
differently.
Expression is a big thing.
Like, how do you expressyourself?
Yeah, this is fascinatingbecause I thought it had a more
satanic connotation, but Levidid not see the Baphomet as a
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satanic figure.
but rather as a symbol ofspiritual balance and esoteric
truth.
And it was later misinterpretedand associated with Satanism by
others.
So again, throughout history,just human error, human
misunderstanding, that's what'sgonna get the human race
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destroyed one day.
Hopefully not, but it's betterto just communicate and have an
open mind about this stuff.
So like I said, I'm not pushingfor people to like really,
really look into this stuff.
But just that iconic image ofthe Baphomet and what it
symbolizes, you know, it canreally shock people.
It's like, oh, it's not evil.
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I thought that I thought it wasevil.
But you were programmed to thinkthat way through popular
culture, through movies, throughsongs, through visuals.
You see an upright pentagram.
It's like, oh God, got to getaway from that.
Yeah, the illustration isreally...
is incredible i mean it's beendrawn so many times i'm sure
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before but yeah just you know ifyou guys are curious you know
you can google and just image ofthe baphomet let's see and you
know the image is often referredto as the sabbatic goat is rich
in symbolism and has become oneof the most iconic
representations in westernoccultism so it was intended as
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a symbol of equilibriumillustrating the harmony between
opposing forces Okay.
So yeah, Levi greatly inspiredAleister Crowley, which in turn,
we discussed, he has inspiredJimmy Page.
And Jimmy Page also, by the way,I forgot to mention this in
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episode one, is that he hadwritten a different like musical
pieces for a director known asKenneth Anger, who was really,
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really big on just doing kind oflike satanic films.
And yeah, just really, he hadthese weird sounds and synths
and guitar parts.
I think he called it LuciferRising.
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So, I mean, it was pretty clearthat, you know, he was going for
something really dark andunsettling.
And I believe he featured in thefilm at some point.
I think he makes like a cameoappearance, which is pretty
cool.
Also, you know, inspiringmusicians as well.
So to tie this in with music,David Bowie apparently
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referenced the Kabbalah andmysticism and in his song,
Quicksand.
And he was known to read occulttexts and explore esoteric
themes.
Now, to touch on this a littlebit, Bowie had an album.
His last album was called BlackStar.
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And the title track, it's one ofmy favorite songs of his because
there are a lot of esotericthemes in that song.
If you're curious, just look upthe lyrics.
I mean...
The way he paints this pictureand, you know, he died of
cancer.
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So maybe he knew that he wasgoing to die soon.
He knew his own mortality.
So he was like wrestling withall of these themes of life and
death.
And where do I go after this?
What's next for me?
Iron Maiden, Number of theBeast, draws on imagery from
Crowley and occult traditionsrooted in Levi's writings.
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And then you got, you know,metal and occult rock.
So Black Metal, Doom, so bandslike Behemoth, Coven, and Ghost,
you know, kind of take it tothat dark edge, if you will.
Marilyn Manson as well.
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He frequently used occult andesoteric symbolism in his
persona and stage design.
Though it was more pop culturedriven, the roots traced back to
Levi's Baphomet.
and ideas of moral inversion andspiritual rebellion.
In his most famous work, hetalks about the magician's role
a little bit.
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And he states that the magicianmust be 1.
Moral and disciplined 2.
Knowledgeable in natural andspiritual law and 3.
Capable of controlling theimagination and will.
Magic can be dangerous ifpracticed without wisdom and
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ethics, and it can destroy aseasily as it can create.
So I just want to say this, isthat if you are setting your
orientation on anything that isgoing to harm somebody or, you
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know, just fuck them over insome way, shape, or form to get
what you want, I think it maybackfire eventually.
Maybe not, but I think that ifyou set your intention, you need
to set your intention before youstart practicing.
And I've dabbled with ceremonialmagic here and there.
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I actually have tarot cards, andI'm going to go through all the
tarot cards with you guys.
And I did a reading a couplemonths back and it was, I can't
remember the actual cards offthe top of my head, but the
trajectory, I drew threeseparate cards.
There's all different kinds ofways to play, but there's like,
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you know, you can draw one card,you can draw three for past,
present, and future, or I thinkyou can draw yet multiple cards.
You can kind of just, you know,freeform with it, just kind of
experiment.
It's fun.
But when I drew those threecards, the trajectory was going
upward.
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You know, it was going from mypast was like, you know, not so
great present, you know, it'sgetting better and future is
going to be filled with justwonder and excitement and love
and positivity.
And that's what kind of inspiredme, that reading to start the
Magic Music Podcast.
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I was like, okay, well, how canit get better than this?
What if I start creating again?
What if I start being truthfulwith myself?
What if I just start speakingthe truth and then it resonates?
Who knows?
I mean, I'm just babbling to theether right now, but that means
the universe is listening.
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I mean, the universe is alwayslistening to you, whether that's
dropping hints or likesynchronicities or...
I keep seeing the number 726 forsome reason.
You know what, let me look up,let's see.
What is the meaning of thenumber 726?
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Let's see what Google says.
So the AI overview says thenumber 726 is often interpreted
as an angel number, suggesting amessage of prosperity, peace,
and harmony.
That's interesting.
seen as a positive sign,encouraging optimism and faith
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while also hinting at the powerto create a balanced and
fulfilling life.
All right.
In numerology, the individualdigits also carry symbolic
meaning.
Seven is associated withspirituality and intuition.
Two with balance and harmony.
And six with love, home, andfamily.
That's crazy.
That kind of describes what I'mabout.
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Wow, that's interesting.
Spirituality.
balance and and love basicallygood stuff man good stuff
whether whether or not youbelieve in that stuff it's it's
cool to you know um yeah a lotof a lot of wiccans do that um
they're very in touch withnature so on and so forth so to
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move on ritual and ceremonialpractice the book includes
outlines of rituals symbolstools and magical alphabets Levi
believed in the power ofceremonial magic to invoke
spiritual forces, for example,angels, planetary spirits, but
warned against summoning demonsirresponsibly.
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I've said this once, I'll say itagain.
If you open a door, you have toclose it, man.
Don't leave your front door wideopen because some guy is just
going to walk into your house.
And you don't know him.
You don't know what he's goingto do to you or your family.
He might be nice.
He might be a nice guy.
Or he might be the most evilmotherfucker on the planet.
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So, again, you wouldn't leaveyour front door to your house
open or your back door.
Or any door or window for thatmatter.
Unless you live in a safeneighborhood, whatever.
You open the window.
Summertime.
Sweating your ass off.
Feel the cool breeze.
So, yeah, the same thing applieswith trying to talk to the
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universe.
and trying to summon somethingthat it might harm you or your
friends or your family.
You might want it to harmsomebody else because they cut
you off in traffic or they didsomething horrific to you.
It's hard.
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It's hard to not react back.
Like, oh, like eye for an eye.
Like you hurt me, I'm going tohurt you.
But I would advise against that.
Just take a deep breath, sitback, And think.
Just think before you actbecause it can get you into a
very, very bad situation veryquickly.
As above, so below.
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A central hermetic maxim in thebook.
What happens in the spiritualrealm reflects and influences
the material world and viceversa.
Yeah, whatever you do, there issome intention behind it.
Whether it's good or bad.
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Whether there are angels anddemons or ghosts, aliens, what
have you.
We're connected to some divineplane.
Like if you think of your brainas maybe like an antenna to
another place.
It's like a receiver.
It's a radio.
It picks up on things.
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Like what is like, you know,making me talk right now?
Like what is that will that I'menacting?
It's just kind of flowingthrough me.
I don't really have a script, Ijust kind of go freeform.
But yeah, where does that comefrom?
Where does that drive come from?
Does it come from the spiritualrealm?
Anything we do affects thespiritual realm and the
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spiritual realm affects us.
Even though we can't really seeit or perceive it, it's probably
there in some way, shape, orform.
Sol et coagula.
This alchemical phrase, dissolveand recombine, Represents the
constant spiritual process ofbreaking down impurities and
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rebuilding the self It's as ifyou're you're at the gym and
you're working out and you'reyou're on the the chest press or
something You know you breakdown your muscle to have it grow
back Bigger and stronger it hasto rip it has to tear and then
it just comes back together thatthat's life the more active you
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are the more sharper that you'llbe mentally and physically.
And this appears on the arms ofLevi's Baphomet and symbolizes
personal transformation.
Every day you're transforming,like every single day you are
becoming someone else.
I don't really want to be mypast self.
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Would I want to go back 10years?
I'm probably not.
Would I want to go forward 10years?
Probably not.
I'm kind of content where I amnow.
I just focus on the presentmoment.
as of right now so the astrallight mysterious force akin to
the modern idea of an energyfield or collective unconscious
which we've discussed with carljung so even he before carl jung
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you know was thinking about thislevi claimed it was the medium
through which magical operationstake effect spiritual ether
binding everything maybe dreamsthis idea of this dream world,
this fantasy world that we justhave trouble perceiving in our
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waking lives.
We only have seven senses,right?
So just imagine if you couldperceive these other realms and
see all these beings that may ormay not be there.
It's a wild thought.
It really is.
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Just to...
touch on this a little bit.
We mentioned this in thebeginning, but Levi clashed
between orthodoxy andesotericism.
There was this internal strugglewithin him that he probably just
needed to get something out.
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Maybe he was living a lie.
Maybe he was forced intosomething that he didn't want to
do.
Being drawn to mysticism andphilosophy...
and political reform, thosethings, at least in his time,
were seen as like incompatiblewith the church teachings.
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They didn't wanna even talkabout that stuff.
It wasn't open to discussion.
It was like, this is our way,which is fine if you wanna be a
part of that group and you wannago down that path into
priesthood.
There's nothing wrong with that.
But he just didn't vibe with it,apparently.
know he sympathized withsocialist and utopian ideals
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advocating for social justiceequality and the reform of
religious institutions so maybehe thought that they had too
much control or too much powerand you know equality since he
believed that as above so belowthings need balance so do men
and women i think it's greatthat women um have the
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opportunity to to work now tocontribute to society not just
be like mothers and stay homesome of them want to and that's
amazing my wife always wanted tobe a stay-at-home mother and uh
it's tough when you live in astate where it's it's so
expensive to live and this theeconomy right now it's it's
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tough you know so women reallyhave it hard but so do men but
what it needs to be a balancingact you gotta have everything in
accordance with one another it'salways the scales are always
tipping but sometimes they kindof align his early writings were
critical of the church's role inoppressing the poor which got
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him into trouble with religiousauthorities so he was directly
criticizing the church it'salmost like he was blind and
then got his vision back once hestarted seeing okay this isn't
what i thought it was this isnot the priesthood that i want
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to be a part of so yeah theydefinitely you know when you
criticize an institution they'regoing to come after you in some
way shape or form that's whathumans do they try to you know
attack and maybe blackmail yousometimes it depends if they're
they're that evil enough andthat they care that much about
protecting what they believe andwhat only they believe and no
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one else So Levi came to believethat all religions contain
fragments of a universal truth,which could be synthesized
through magic, symbolism, andesotericism.
I think that religions, they dohint at some things that the
occult touches on, even thoughthey're kind of in separate
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categories.
The occult is not a religion,per se.
It's a practice.
It's like a way of life.
It's...
you know theories like certainreligions are like dead set okay
this is what happened jesus rosefrom the grave on the third day
like some people take this stufflike literally and that's that's
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fine but some people believethat you know the bible is like
a big storybook but again whoknows i didn't live in that time
and the catholic church regardedthis syncretic view as heretical
yeah he was definitelyblacklisted from the church.
So maybe that was for the best.
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Maybe that's what he needed.
Maybe he needed to get a littletaste of his own, you know, his
own lies that he believed, whichset him on that path to a higher
truth for himself.
So the Kabbalah, Hermeticism,and the Tarot can all be ancient
keys to divine knowledge and notevil.
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So let's just get that out ofthe vocabulary.
It's not evil.
It can be used for Good stuff.
And the church condemned magicand occultism as satanic, which
was probably, you know, a commonthing of like, oh, this is the
opposite of what we believe, sothat must be evil.
And now it's just another way oflooking at it.
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So he likely felt that remainingin the church would force him to
suppress his beliefs andintellectual curiosity.
So he probably felt stifledthere.
couldn't be himself.
And that's with a lot of placestoo.
You get roped into this thing.
You become part of like a toxicwork environment and you're just
not about it.
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You're like, I don't feel likemyself here.
This isn't my tribe.
I have to find another tribethat I want to live with.
So he chose instead to pursue apath that allowed him to freely
explore spiritual truth throughreason, symbolism, and personal
revelation.
So he just wanted to be himself,essentially.
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And there's nothing wrong withthat at all.
He just had to go through sometough shit to get there with the
church.
So yeah, the church just limitedthe deeper universal spiritual
understanding that he sought.
And I think we're going to stopthere.
But yeah, that's just a littleoverview.
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of Levi and what he believed.
Yeah, those principles.
I think his story can resonatewith everyone.
If you don't feel like yourselfsomewhere, then you gotta get
out of there.
You gotta try to pursuesomething.
It's gonna make you happy.
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Whatever it is.
Whatever it is.
If you find comfort and joy init, then just do that until the
end of time.
and don't don't compromise justkeep keep pushing forward you
might get knocked down you mightget discouraged you might be
like oh man like i my band onlyhas like you know got a couple
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likes on this post on instagramwell just just keep pushing
through just keep being yourselfand keep keep creating just keep
creating all day whenever youhave time sometimes it's hard
you don't want to but just youknow try to get up and And just
be creative.
Enact your own will on the day.
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Because that's all you have.
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your host joseph matthew and inthis series we will be
discussing various occult andesoteric practices in music art
and culture so sit back relaxand let's explore the unknown
together enjoy Welcome, guys, toepisode number eight.
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Today, we're going to bediscussing Eliphas Levi.
Who exactly was Eliphas Levi?
It was actually a pen name ofAlphonse Louis Constant, who was
born in 1810 and died in 1875.
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He was a French occultist, awriter, ceremonial magician he
had a major influence on themodern revival of western
esotericism so this is a guythat yeah was extremely
influential to people likealistair crowley and other you
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know modern cultists from youknow the 1900s and and beyond
his influence definitely liveson so some key facts about him
In his early life, he originallystudied for the Roman Catholic
priesthood, but left theseminary before ordination.
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His break from Orthodox religionled him to explore mysticism and
esoteric traditions.
That's interesting.
So, I'm sure he started out, youknow, growing up in the church
like I did, and then maybe sawit for what it truly was, or
maybe that...
specific sect that he was in,and he just didn't vibe with it.
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He was like, nah, I'm good.
I'm gonna just take this, I'mgonna go somewhere else with it,
and just find the truth.
The truth for himself.
So his magnum opus, his mostinfluential work, is The Dogma
and Ritual of High Magic, whichhe wrote between 1854 and 1856.
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In this book, he lays out acomprehensive theory of how to
practice ceremonial magic, andhe also integrated ideas from
the Kabbalah, Hermeticism, andother traditions.
So the Kabbalah and Hermeticism,that's something we'll touch on
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in later episodes, for sure.
We'll go into more details forthose practices and my thoughts
on those.
His legacy, Levi is creditedwith popularizing the image of
Baphomet, which he described asa symbolic representation of the
equilibrium of opposites.
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So for example, male and female,or good and evil.
His influence, his ideas deeplyinfluenced later occult groups,
like the Hermetic Order of theGolden Dawn.
And of course, Aleister Crowleyconsidered Levi a spiritual
predecessor.
So just kind of continuing downthe same esoteric path, that
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pathway to find your true innerself, your true inner knowledge
that no one else can do for youexcept you.
So his philosophy was that hesaw magic as a science of the
imagination and willpower,deeply moral and symbolic, Not
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just a system of spells orrituals.
So, yeah, not just wizards andwitches performing magic or
trying to, you know, cursesomebody or hex somebody.
It was a lot deeper than thatand just integrating all of
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these things together that wasvery, very smart of him to do in
his time.
I'm sure it was pretty frownedupon, you know, but he probably
didn't care.
He just wanted to push throughand, you know, just find what it
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meant to him personally andprobably didn't care about
anyone else.
So I'm going to talk about someof his key ideas and beliefs.
So magic as science andmorality.
Levi believed that magic is botha spiritual science and a moral
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practice, grounded in thebalance of natural forces and
universal principles.
So, you know, just look aroundyou.
There are things that occurdaily that should kind of make
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you question how reality works.
there's you know certaingeometric patterns that are
found in nature the sun risesand then you have the moon at
night so kind of just blendingall these things and just taking
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a look at nature itself so forhim true magic involved mastery
of will imagination andknowledge not just superstition
or spell casting So he kind ofwent deep with this.
Enacting your will on somethingis using your own life force to
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push through and to find whatyou truly believe in.
Imagination is just completelylimitless.
You can think of so manydifferent things and Whether or
not you choose to createsomething out of that, that's
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totally up to you.
But there are no boundaries.
And knowledge.
Knowledge is just necessary for,I think, becoming a stronger
person mentally and physically.
You can strengthen your mind andstrengthen your body with
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knowledge.
The more you soak in and themore bullshit that you filter
out, You can achieve very, veryamazing things in life.
The power of the will.
He emphasized the human will asa divine force capable of
shaping reality when properlyfocused and aligned with
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universal laws.
Just taking that step, pushingyourself to do that thing you've
always wanted to do.
And you might fail many times.
But if you pick yourself back upeach time, you might have a
different outcome at the end.
Correspondences and symbolism.
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Levi promoted the idea ofsymbolic correspondences between
the natural world, the humansoul, and divine archetypes,
drawing on Hermeticism,Astrology, and Kabbalah.
And so the Kabbalah, heintegrated Jewish mysticism,
especially the Sephirotic Treeof Life, into his magical
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system.
Levi saw the Kabbalah as auniversal key to unlocking
hidden truths.
I'm going to have a seriesthat's just dedicated to that,
because I'm actually reading abook right now.
I believe I mentioned it inanother episode previously, but
it's called The...
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moon and serpent bumper book ofmagic by alan moore who wrote uh
the watchman a graphic novel andswamp thing a bunch of other
amazing comic books so you havealan moore and then steve moore
they're not related to oneanother even though they have
the same last name but stevemoore was a mentor to alan moore
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actually and steve moore is nolonger with us but alan moore He
recently put out a masterclasson writing and storytelling.
And Alan Moore, I would love todo an episode just on Alan Moore
because he's big into the occultand mysticism and just using
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your own, the human spirit, thehuman will to create art.
whether it's music or a book ora script.
But yeah, that book really,really goes into the Kabbalah
and explains each specific groupof spheres that's there.
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It does a very, very good job ofgoing in depth with those.
So I will have an episode whereI'm going to just touch on all
of those things because it'sjust so fascinating.
And I have just recentlydiscovered it.
I've always known about it, butI never really looked into it
too much.
It just seemed too big for me tocomprehend.
I was like, whoa, this isfucking huge.
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How am I supposed to processthis?
But I'm slowly going through it.
I think I'm on like the eighthor ninth sphere in the book.
So I'm going to try to finish itand then, yeah, make an episode
on it in the future.
So...
Yeah, he utilized the Kabbalah.
Duality and balance.
Central to Levi's worldview wasthe unity of opposites.
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Light and dark, male and female,spirit and matter.
Harmony came from balancingthese forces.
And I think life is a balancingact.
It's trying to find what isgoing to make you shine.
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What's going to make you shine?
Is it dancing?
Is it singing?
Is it playing an instrument?
Is it doing stand-up comedy?
Is it driving really fast inyour car, like being a NASCAR
driver or motorcycle?
Whatever's going to bring yousome element of joy, but also
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knowledge, then maybe, justmaybe, you keep that knowledge
with you.
And if you believe in past livesor even future lives, maybe you
take that knowledge with youinto the next life.
Or you're born just a completelyclean slate with no memory of
your past lives whatsoever.
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Who knows?
But maybe the more knowledge youconsume, maybe it sticks with
you.
So the Baphomet.
The Baphomet, throughouthistory, is regarded...
at least in, you know, popularculture as evil.
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When people see that image ofthe Baphomet, you know, the
demon with the goat's head andthe inverted pentagram,
everyone's like, Jesus Christ,like, like, I mean, the power of
Christ can tell you, like, throwfucking holy water on it.
And it's like, well, instead ofjust like, you know, turning
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away from it.
You could try to learn about ita little bit.
Not that I worship any satanicforces or anything like that.
Personally, I don't.
I'm sure there are a lot ofsatanists out there and people
who worship evil things.
Whatever.
Go crazy.
I mean, as long as you're notharming anybody, or if you're
doing it in private, whatever.
That's fine.
I don't care.
Just do you.
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Levi actually drew the image ofthe Baphomet in 1856.
It's one of the most iconicimages in modern occultism.
And here's what it represents.
Androgyny.
The figure has both male andfemale characteristics,
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symbolizing duality and unity.
You know, men have testosterone,women have estrogen.
I have a little bit of estrogenin me.
you have things that once, ifthey're pushed forward, like
testosterone, I have a lot moretestosterone than I do estrogen.
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So, I have a little bit ofestrogen in me, but that doesn't
make me a woman, you know, butit's just kind of like we have
certain things in us that we,you know, sometimes forget.
The goat head represents theanimal nature of humans, but
under control of of divinereason yeah humans are even
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though we don't like to thinkthat we are like we're
definitely more savage than wewould like to think if evolution
is correct and we come from fromapes or chimpanzees then you
know we we have remnants of thatIf you get really angry or
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frustrated, you know, that'skind of an animalistic behavior.
And if your intention is to harmsomebody, then that's not good.
If someone did you wrong oryou're trying to defend
yourself, that's one thing.
But sometimes people really layinto that really savage nature.
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And maybe they don't mean to,but maybe they just can't
control it.
Torches and pentagrams, thetorch on the head symbolizes
illumination and divine light.
The upright pentagram on theforehead represents spiritual
sovereignty.
Caduceus, the serpent staff, onthe abdomen, symbolizing life
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force, healing, and balance ofopposing energies, like yin and
yang, or masculine and feminine.
One arm points up, the other onepoints down.
Accompanied by the phrase, solveet coagula, dissolve and
coagulate.
The principle of alchemyreferring to breaking things
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apart and recombining them in apure form.
In hermeticism or in alchemy,way back when you had
individuals trying to turn leadinto gold, to turn these
different elements intosomething else, right?
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If you compare a human to aninsect, we're made of the same
atoms.
It's just representeddifferently and expressed
differently.
Expression is a big thing.
Like, how do you expressyourself?
Yeah, this is fascinatingbecause I thought it had a more
satanic connotation, but Levidid not see the Baphomet as a
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satanic figure.
but rather as a symbol ofspiritual balance and esoteric
truth.
And it was later misinterpretedand associated with Satanism by
others.
So again, throughout history,just human error, human
misunderstanding, that's what'sgonna get the human race
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destroyed one day.
Hopefully not, but it's betterto just communicate and have an
open mind about this stuff.
So like I said, I'm not pushingfor people to like really,
really look into this stuff.
But just that iconic image ofthe Baphomet and what it
symbolizes, you know, it canreally shock people.
It's like, oh, it's not evil.
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I thought that I thought it wasevil.
But you were programmed to thinkthat way through popular
culture, through movies, throughsongs, through visuals.
You see an upright pentagram.
It's like, oh God, got to getaway from that.
Yeah, the illustration isreally...
is incredible i mean it's beendrawn so many times i'm sure
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before but yeah just you know ifyou guys are curious you know
you can google and just image ofthe baphomet let's see and you
know the image is often referredto as the sabbatic goat is rich
in symbolism and has become oneof the most iconic
representations in westernoccultism so it was intended as
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a symbol of equilibriumillustrating the harmony between
opposing forces Okay.
So yeah, Levi greatly inspiredAleister Crowley, which in turn,
we discussed, he has inspiredJimmy Page.
And Jimmy Page also, by the way,I forgot to mention this in
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episode one, is that he hadwritten a different like musical
pieces for a director known asKenneth Anger, who was really,
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really big on just doing kind oflike satanic films.
And yeah, just really, he hadthese weird sounds and synths
and guitar parts.
I think he called it LuciferRising.
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So, I mean, it was pretty clearthat, you know, he was going for
something really dark andunsettling.
And I believe he featured in thefilm at some point.
I think he makes like a cameoappearance, which is pretty
cool.
Also, you know, inspiringmusicians as well.
So to tie this in with music,David Bowie apparently
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referenced the Kabbalah andmysticism and in his song,
Quicksand.
And he was known to read occulttexts and explore esoteric
themes.
Now, to touch on this a littlebit, Bowie had an album.
His last album was called BlackStar.
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And the title track, it's one ofmy favorite songs of his because
there are a lot of esotericthemes in that song.
If you're curious, just look upthe lyrics.
I mean...
The way he paints this pictureand, you know, he died of
cancer.
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So maybe he knew that he wasgoing to die soon.
He knew his own mortality.
So he was like wrestling withall of these themes of life and
death.
And where do I go after this?
What's next for me?
Iron Maiden, Number of theBeast, draws on imagery from
Crowley and occult traditionsrooted in Levi's writings.
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And then you got, you know,metal and occult rock.
So Black Metal, Doom, so bandslike Behemoth, Coven, and Ghost,
you know, kind of take it tothat dark edge, if you will.
Marilyn Manson as well.
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He frequently used occult andesoteric symbolism in his
persona and stage design.
Though it was more pop culturedriven, the roots traced back to
Levi's Baphomet.
and ideas of moral inversion andspiritual rebellion.
In his most famous work, hetalks about the magician's role
a little bit.
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And he states that the magicianmust be 1.
Moral and disciplined 2.
Knowledgeable in natural andspiritual law and 3.
Capable of controlling theimagination and will.
Magic can be dangerous ifpracticed without wisdom and
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ethics, and it can destroy aseasily as it can create.
So I just want to say this, isthat if you are setting your
orientation on anything that isgoing to harm somebody or, you
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know, just fuck them over insome way, shape, or form to get
what you want, I think it maybackfire eventually.
Maybe not, but I think that ifyou set your intention, you need
to set your intention before youstart practicing.
And I've dabbled with ceremonialmagic here and there.
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I actually have tarot cards, andI'm going to go through all the
tarot cards with you guys.
And I did a reading a couplemonths back and it was, I can't
remember the actual cards offthe top of my head, but the
trajectory, I drew threeseparate cards.
There's all different kinds ofways to play, but there's like,
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you know, you can draw one card,you can draw three for past,
present, and future, or I thinkyou can draw yet multiple cards.
You can kind of just, you know,freeform with it, just kind of
experiment.
It's fun.
But when I drew those threecards, the trajectory was going
upward.
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You know, it was going from mypast was like, you know, not so
great present, you know, it'sgetting better and future is
going to be filled with justwonder and excitement and love
and positivity.
And that's what kind of inspiredme, that reading to start the
Magic Music Podcast.
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I was like, okay, well, how canit get better than this?
What if I start creating again?
What if I start being truthfulwith myself?
What if I just start speakingthe truth and then it resonates?
Who knows?
I mean, I'm just babbling to theether right now, but that means
the universe is listening.
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I mean, the universe is alwayslistening to you, whether that's
dropping hints or likesynchronicities or...
I keep seeing the number 726 forsome reason.
You know what, let me look up,let's see.
What is the meaning of thenumber 726?
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Let's see what Google says.
So the AI overview says thenumber 726 is often interpreted
as an angel number, suggesting amessage of prosperity, peace,
and harmony.
That's interesting.
seen as a positive sign,encouraging optimism and faith
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while also hinting at the powerto create a balanced and
fulfilling life.
All right.
In numerology, the individualdigits also carry symbolic
meaning.
Seven is associated withspirituality and intuition.
Two with balance and harmony.
And six with love, home, andfamily.
That's crazy.
That kind of describes what I'mabout.
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Wow, that's interesting.
Spirituality.
balance and and love basicallygood stuff man good stuff
whether whether or not youbelieve in that stuff it's it's
cool to you know um yeah a lotof a lot of wiccans do that um
they're very in touch withnature so on and so forth so to
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move on ritual and ceremonialpractice the book includes
outlines of rituals symbolstools and magical alphabets Levi
believed in the power ofceremonial magic to invoke
spiritual forces, for example,angels, planetary spirits, but
warned against summoning demonsirresponsibly.
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I've said this once, I'll say itagain.
If you open a door, you have toclose it, man.
Don't leave your front door wideopen because some guy is just
going to walk into your house.
And you don't know him.
You don't know what he's goingto do to you or your family.
He might be nice.
He might be a nice guy.
Or he might be the most evilmotherfucker on the planet.
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So, again, you wouldn't leaveyour front door to your house
open or your back door.
Or any door or window for thatmatter.
Unless you live in a safeneighborhood, whatever.
You open the window.
Summertime.
Sweating your ass off.
Feel the cool breeze.
So, yeah, the same thing applieswith trying to talk to the
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universe.
and trying to summon somethingthat it might harm you or your
friends or your family.
You might want it to harmsomebody else because they cut
you off in traffic or they didsomething horrific to you.
It's hard.
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It's hard to not react back.
Like, oh, like eye for an eye.
Like you hurt me, I'm going tohurt you.
But I would advise against that.
Just take a deep breath, sitback, And think.
Just think before you actbecause it can get you into a
very, very bad situation veryquickly.
As above, so below.
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A central hermetic maxim in thebook.
What happens in the spiritualrealm reflects and influences
the material world and viceversa.
Yeah, whatever you do, there issome intention behind it.
Whether it's good or bad.
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Whether there are angels anddemons or ghosts, aliens, what
have you.
We're connected to some divineplane.
Like if you think of your brainas maybe like an antenna to
another place.
It's like a receiver.
It's a radio.
It picks up on things.
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Like what is like, you know,making me talk right now?
Like what is that will that I'menacting?
It's just kind of flowingthrough me.
I don't really have a script, Ijust kind of go freeform.
But yeah, where does that comefrom?
Where does that drive come from?
Does it come from the spiritualrealm?
Anything we do affects thespiritual realm and the
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spiritual realm affects us.
Even though we can't really seeit or perceive it, it's probably
there in some way, shape, orform.
Sol et coagula.
This alchemical phrase, dissolveand recombine, Represents the
constant spiritual process ofbreaking down impurities and
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rebuilding the self It's as ifyou're you're at the gym and
you're working out and you'reyou're on the the chest press or
something You know you breakdown your muscle to have it grow
back Bigger and stronger it hasto rip it has to tear and then
it just comes back together thatthat's life the more active you
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are the more sharper that you'llbe mentally and physically.
And this appears on the arms ofLevi's Baphomet and symbolizes
personal transformation.
Every day you're transforming,like every single day you are
becoming someone else.
I don't really want to be mypast self.
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Would I want to go back 10years?
I'm probably not.
Would I want to go forward 10years?
Probably not.
I'm kind of content where I amnow.
I just focus on the presentmoment.
as of right now so the astrallight mysterious force akin to
the modern idea of an energyfield or collective unconscious
which we've discussed with carljung so even he before carl jung
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you know was thinking about thislevi claimed it was the medium
through which magical operationstake effect spiritual ether
binding everything maybe dreamsthis idea of this dream world,
this fantasy world that we justhave trouble perceiving in our
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waking lives.
We only have seven senses,right?
So just imagine if you couldperceive these other realms and
see all these beings that may ormay not be there.
It's a wild thought.
It really is.
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Just to...
touch on this a little bit.
We mentioned this in thebeginning, but Levi clashed
between orthodoxy andesotericism.
There was this internal strugglewithin him that he probably just
needed to get something out.
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Maybe he was living a lie.
Maybe he was forced intosomething that he didn't want to
do.
Being drawn to mysticism andphilosophy...
and political reform, thosethings, at least in his time,
were seen as like incompatiblewith the church teachings.
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They didn't wanna even talkabout that stuff.
It wasn't open to discussion.
It was like, this is our way,which is fine if you wanna be a
part of that group and you wannago down that path into
priesthood.
There's nothing wrong with that.
But he just didn't vibe with it,apparently.
know he sympathized withsocialist and utopian ideals
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advocating for social justiceequality and the reform of
religious institutions so maybehe thought that they had too
much control or too much powerand you know equality since he
believed that as above so belowthings need balance so do men
and women i think it's greatthat women um have the
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opportunity to to work now tocontribute to society not just
be like mothers and stay homesome of them want to and that's
amazing my wife always wanted tobe a stay-at-home mother and uh
it's tough when you live in astate where it's it's so
expensive to live and this theeconomy right now it's it's
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tough you know so women reallyhave it hard but so do men but
what it needs to be a balancingact you gotta have everything in
accordance with one another it'salways the scales are always
tipping but sometimes they kindof align his early writings were
critical of the church's role inoppressing the poor which got
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him into trouble with religiousauthorities so he was directly
criticizing the church it'salmost like he was blind and
then got his vision back once hestarted seeing okay this isn't
what i thought it was this isnot the priesthood that i want
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to be a part of so yeah theydefinitely you know when you
criticize an institution they'regoing to come after you in some
way shape or form that's whathumans do they try to you know
attack and maybe blackmail yousometimes it depends if they're
they're that evil enough andthat they care that much about
protecting what they believe andwhat only they believe and no
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one else So Levi came to believethat all religions contain
fragments of a universal truth,which could be synthesized
through magic, symbolism, andesotericism.
I think that religions, they dohint at some things that the
occult touches on, even thoughthey're kind of in separate
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categories.
The occult is not a religion,per se.
It's a practice.
It's like a way of life.
It's...
you know theories like certainreligions are like dead set okay
this is what happened jesus rosefrom the grave on the third day
like some people take this stufflike literally and that's that's
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fine but some people believethat you know the bible is like
a big storybook but again whoknows i didn't live in that time
and the catholic church regardedthis syncretic view as heretical
yeah he was definitelyblacklisted from the church.
So maybe that was for the best.
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Maybe that's what he needed.
Maybe he needed to get a littletaste of his own, you know, his
own lies that he believed, whichset him on that path to a higher
truth for himself.
So the Kabbalah, Hermeticism,and the Tarot can all be ancient
keys to divine knowledge and notevil.
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So let's just get that out ofthe vocabulary.
It's not evil.
It can be used for Good stuff.
And the church condemned magicand occultism as satanic, which
was probably, you know, a commonthing of like, oh, this is the
opposite of what we believe, sothat must be evil.
And now it's just another way oflooking at it.
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So he likely felt that remainingin the church would force him to
suppress his beliefs andintellectual curiosity.
So he probably felt stifledthere.
couldn't be himself.
And that's with a lot of placestoo.
You get roped into this thing.
You become part of like a toxicwork environment and you're just
not about it.
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You're like, I don't feel likemyself here.
This isn't my tribe.
I have to find another tribethat I want to live with.
So he chose instead to pursue apath that allowed him to freely
explore spiritual truth throughreason, symbolism, and personal
revelation.
So he just wanted to be himself,essentially.
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And there's nothing wrong withthat at all.
He just had to go through sometough shit to get there with the
church.
So yeah, the church just limitedthe deeper universal spiritual
understanding that he sought.
And I think we're going to stopthere.
But yeah, that's just a littleoverview.
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of Levi and what he believed.
Yeah, those principles.
I think his story can resonatewith everyone.
If you don't feel like yourselfsomewhere, then you gotta get
out of there.
You gotta try to pursuesomething.
It's gonna make you happy.
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Whatever it is.
Whatever it is.
If you find comfort and joy init, then just do that until the
end of time.
and don't don't compromise justkeep keep pushing forward you
might get knocked down you mightget discouraged you might be
like oh man like i my band onlyhas like you know got a couple
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likes on this post on instagramwell just just keep pushing
through just keep being yourselfand keep keep creating just keep
creating all day whenever youhave time sometimes it's hard
you don't want to but just youknow try to get up and And just
be creative.
Enact your own will on the day.
(36:43):
Because that's all you have.
Just your own will to create.
That spark is in you.
And with that, everybody, thankyou from the bottom of my heart
for listening to episode numbereight.
Got a lot of cool stuff in storefor you guys.
So I'm super, super excited.
Don't forget to like andsubscribe to my Instagram.
(37:04):
I have YouTube.
I'm going to create some moresocial media.
pages in the future um also onbuzzsprout too you can shoot me
a text i'll respond um there's amonthly donation page as well if
you guys are interested i thinkthe lowest amount is three
dollars a month i don't expectanything from you guys but if
(37:24):
you want to buy me a cup ofcoffee um i don't mind but thank
you so much for all of yoursupport and love and have a
great week guys thank you somuch see you next time
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