The Future of Humanity: Everything becomes FREE

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You're starting a new country where

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everything is going to be free.
So how does that even work?
Well, okay. So it's a theory, an economic
theory, but the line
of logic is very solid.
The basic concept behind this is, and
we've seen it in the past
where the government couldn't
regulate, get its grip on a particular
industry, say the computer industry,

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particularly the last
portion of the 20th century into the 21st
century, both computer
power and information.
The value, the access to power rose and
rose, rising toward infinity now with AI,
the costs drop, drop, drop, drop, drop,
because the government couldn't get its
regulatory grip on it.
The ruling class was basically largely

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kept at bay because
it advanced so quickly,
they just didn't know how to do it. So
that's a little microcosm of how I see
Immortalis. You know, an Immortalis, we
won't have a ruling class because of our
prime law constitution.
And what is Immortalis?
Immortalis is a new country that I'm
starting. Right now
it's a digital country,
what's called a network state. The whole

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idea is in 10 years to
have a land-based country with
sovereignty. We have a plan to go about
that. So the idea is that
there will be no ruling class,
first time on planet earth, that there's
a civilization with no ruling class.
That comes down to our prime law
constitution, which forbids the use of
initiatory force in the
government. Initiatory force being
initiating force, like regulations,

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legislation, litigation,
initiating force as opposed to the proper
purpose of government
is self-defense force,
protecting the people, not moving into
agendas, political
agendas and politicizing,
which just holds everything back. So this
will be a country for the
first time on planet earth
with no ruling class, no initiatory force
in government. And so

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what does that lead to?
It leads to a country that is moving
toward the little
description, what I call puzzle
piece I showed you before. They talked to
you about computer power and information
rising toward infinity where the costs
are dropping towards zero.
Well, that would be across
all industries. The whole industrial
landscape would experience
that, what I call the great

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technological revolution. And as that
goes on, prices will be
driven down towards zero,
as we saw with computer power and
information. Values would
rise toward infinity. Again,
as we see with computer power and AI
information, you know, information used
to be a very expensive
commodity. Now it's free. You just go to
chat GPT. So that will happen, that

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phenomenon will happen
across all industries. So it will drive
prices down. So eventually
people will be wealthy here.
There won't be any poverty. There won't
even be a middle class.
People just be wealthy because
their buying power would rise so high in
a country like that. Okay,
that's making sense. So all the,

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just like in the computers, the prices
that will happen across all
industries. So the prices of
all other industries from housing,
energy, food will all
plummet towards zero as the value
increases and across everything. That's
correct. So that's pretty

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incredible. And so that's how
basically prices are going to drop
towards zero and make
everything free. Is that correct?
Well, that's, yes, that's the theory. And
there's a powerful line of logic
supporting that theory.
Okay. So, okay. Let's say everybody,
everything is free. So why would anyone

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work and how could there
be any productivity or output because
everything's free? So why would anyone
want to work? Right.
Let me shed some light on that. And we
have to first, we have to
shed our 21st century skin
because we're caught in a certain way of
thinking and seeing things, but
everything changes. It's a

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it's an inflection point, a completely
different paradigm in this civilization
that has, as I said,
has never existed on planet earth as long
as there's absolutely hasn't existed.
It's not existing. Right. So we've always
had, when I say it
hasn't existed, I mean,
every civilization has been suppressed
under a ruling class. And
there's reasons behind that.
It's all in my writings. I won't get into

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all that now, but that we
have a new civilization here
that's never existed that has no ruling
class. So everything
changes in the way we view and
approach things. I'm going to try to shed
a little light on that right here.
First of all, let's take, okay, let's
just take an example. Let's say
restaurants. Why would people
want to serve you in a restaurant, clean

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up, wash dishes, cook food? Why would
they want to do that
labor for you for free? Right. I don't
know. I don't see why they
would. And across any area,
jobs of labor, you would ask that same
question. And jobs of labor, meaning
what? I mean, where you
physically doing things as opposed to a
job of the mind where you're creating

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something. So let's just
stick to jobs of labor right now. Because
okay, we got to get those out
of the way first. So it'll be
like servers, cashiers, front desk
people, retail workers. Exactly. So jobs,
jobs of labor that use
the body. That's right. That's right.
That the mind is really not
that big of a deal in those
jobs. So, all right. So we have jobs of
labor. Now, years ago I

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wrote in my literature how
as the economy evolves, as technology
increases and evolves, we
are going to eventually replace
jobs of labor with automation, with
robots, with computers. For
example, when I was a little boy,

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my father took me to Detroit to a car
factory, manufacturing
cars and assembly line. And I
remember looking at the workers and they
were all men in all the
stations. They were all men
doing their movements, you know, their
physical movements to
put together the car.
You go to any car manufacturing now and

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it's all robotic arms. No
more men doing those jobs. Right.
Yeah. So, okay. So that's a clear
example. Now, as we progress,
particularly if we progress quickly,
which we will in immortality, you will
not have people
eventually doing jobs of labor.
Let me call jobs of labor close ended
jobs. In other words,

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there's no growth in those.
They're stagnant routine ruts, basically.
Yeah. I'll call them dead end jobs.
Look, I don't mean to be, you know,
putting anything down because I
appreciate all workers.
They're just facts.
They're contributors to society, but 10,
20, 30 years, they're not going to be,
they're going to stagnate. Okay. So,

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those are close ended jobs of labor.
And in a great technological revolution,
robotics, automation,
computer, it will all be replaced,
all jobs, all dead end jobs will be
replaced by computers and automation.
I guess that makes sense. I mean,
especially now seeing Tesla's robots,

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they have AI chip and they
could do all the physical movements that
a human could do. Yes.
That means they could be a
bartender. That means they could do
landscaping. They could, you
know, work on machinery and
they could do retail and all those jobs
that don't really require.
So then what's the difference
between a job of labor versus a job that

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AI and robotics won't be able to fulfill?
Right. And that's going into the jobs of
the mind. And as I wrote
about years ago in my writings,
as this automation moves in and robots
move in, computers
move in, well, it pushes
mankind up from jobs of labor into what I

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call jobs of the
mind. Basically, those are
jobs that require creativity. Now
understand that human beings
are the only animal and the
only entity on planet earth that can
create values. We're creative beings.
That is our essence.

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We survive, you know, your survival
mechanism is your essence.
We survive by being creative.
We are creative people. We are creative
beings. So we are being
pushed now out of these jobs of
labor. That's fantastic. But we're being
pushed into jobs of the mind. We're

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finally aligning with
our essence. Now, when you move into
creativity, into what I call value
creation, well, then
something happens inside. If you're
working at McDonald's,
you know, for 10 years,
all right, stagnation moves in. But when
you move into value
creation, when you're using your mind
to create, create values for humanity,

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when that happens, the light turns on
inside you. The child
of the past comes back in you. And at
that point, you're happy.
You're pursuing your essence and
you're living with a whole different
level than you were when you were in a
stagnant routine rut.
So this is a very good thing that's going
to happen and is
happening and will happen rapidly

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in immortality. So it sounds like
humankind or all the all the
citizens in immortality are
basically getting a major, major
promotion, because that's
how I'm seeing this. It's like,
in a job, you work at your job for a bit.
Then once you get really
skilled at it, then you get

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a promotion, but you have to, you know,
bring somebody else in
to train them and then to
develop their skills. And then when your
skills are developed, you
can get to the next level.
So it's almost like humankind is getting
a promotion, whereas
the AI and robotics take
their place, they can focus on higher
skills, which is

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thinking and being creative.
Absolutely. And it's the, it's the, it is
truly the direction
that man that humankind
must move in. It's truly the direction.
So now let's look at the
dynamics as to what starts
happening in this new civilization. So in
the civilization,

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without the suppression of what
I'll just call right here, right now, the
cult, I call the ruling class a cult.
People don't realize
it's a cult because they've always lived
in it. They've been brought
up in the cult through their
schooling and, and so on and so forth.
Where they ruling class, you mean
government? Yes, basically,
yeah, the government. Also that includes
largely who they work hand in hand with,

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politicians, bureaucrats, and the media,
you know, the influential class, the
revolving door with big
business. Now a lot with big pharma,
it's, it's all part of the ruling class
that basically controls
us through illusions to where we think we
need them. We think that they're
important, that they're
valuable. It's all an illusion. It's
unearned power. And I'm here to break

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that illusion. I call
it a cult and we start getting
brainwashed as children in it. It
controls us, controls our lives
by manipulating our minds for the benefit
of the cult leaders. You know, I
mentioned to you before
how a politician comes in worth maybe 10,
I mean, maybe $50,000,
$100,000 and they leave worth $200

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million. Where'd that come from? They're
taking advantage of the
people through their cult. They're
the cult leaders. Right. Okay. So that's
all gone in Immortalis
because of the prime law that does
not allow an issue to enforce. The only
way you can have a ruling
class is if they're allowed
an issue to enforce to control us through
an issue to enforce. That's
the only way. And all that

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initiative to enforce is just so much
more than we can even imagine. Cause
we've never been exposed
to the other, to what we're going to
create an immortality. So people don't
realize how much we've
been suppressed, not just us
individually, but society as a whole
civilization as a whole. We've
been so suppressed. So when we go into
immortality, particularly when we're

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land-based and there's
none of this limitation, none of this
ruling class as cult
controlling us and manipulating us and
taking advantage and getting money and
power off our backs, when
that's all gone, it's going to
accelerate at such speeds. And guess what
happens? Remember what I
started this with the computer,
where the government couldn't get his

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grip on computer, on the
computer revolution and the
information revolution. And it drove
prices down towards zero to
fractions. And then it drove
values toward infinity. Well, when that
starts happening in
immortality, the whole dynamic of
money changes because everyone will

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become wealthy. Just like today we're
wealthy with computer power.
You're putting your pocket, something you
can get it for a few hundred
bucks, you know, buy a used
iPhone, a couple of hundred bucks that
fortune 500 billion
dollar fortune 500 companies
could only afford not too long ago on
their mainframes. We had
that computer power now right in

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our pockets. Right. Everyone's cell phone
has more computing power
than the rocket ship that
went to the moon. There you go right
there. So this is what I'm talking about.
Everything's going to
follow that pattern in a mortalis. So
when that happens and you
very quickly reach a point where
you can afford anything and everything

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you want and then more
because the costs are driven down
so dramatically. We just have no idea
right now because we've never been
exposed to this, but
the line of logic is this that you're
going to very quickly, all citizens in
immortality are very
quickly going to have the purchasing
power to get anything they want. So

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everything starts to change.
The motivation for making money starts to
change, particularly for
the business owners. You see,
this free business will start at the top.
Imagine Elon Musk in immortality.
Yes. You know, it won't be before long
where profits really, they
don't mean anything to him
other than the metrics of how successful

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his marketable values
are. But myself, for example,
owning a publishing company, I would so
prefer to give my books out
for free to reach millions of
people rapidly than to have to charge for

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them. But to survive,
to pay for what I have,
I have to charge for them in this
civilization. But in that civilization, I
wouldn't because the
money I have would last me the rest of my
life and then beyond and no
one be even thinking in terms
of money. So motivation must change,

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particularly for business owners.
Motivation must change.
So by understanding a motivation, if I'm
not motivated to make
profits anymore because money
becomes more and more meaningless in that
civilization, then what
happens? Well, then I'm
motivated by my essence, my creativity,

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the values I create for
the world and the pride,
the happiness, the joy that brings me.
Remember I've written and
I've talked to you about
playing for adults is creating. Creating
values is the way adults
play. That brings back the
child of the past. When you're a child,
you're playing, you're
happy, you're joyful. When you're

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an adult, the way you play, you're happy,
you're joyful is through
creating values. And what are
you doing? You're creating values. So
you're creating values for
mankind with the beautiful
ecosystem there to make you happy, to
bring you pride and
happiness and joy, is you bringing
values to your fellow man out there. What
a beautiful ecosystem.

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It changes everything
from the virtue of selfishness, as Ayn
Rand said, to the virtue of
selflessness. But you're still
selfish, but it's selfless. You see, it's
just this incredibly
beautiful ecosystem. I can't even,
it's hard to get your brain around it,
but it's just so

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beautiful. So this is this beauty,
I call it the beautiful society,
immortality. This is what's going to
happen in immortality.
Money becomes less and less meaningful.
Business owners start
saying, well, heck, you know,
I don't need to charge for this. I'm
going to make it free.
And then that just ripple,
the ripple effects goes all the way

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through. Even the lower people, and
remember there's no more
people doing manual labor anymore. Right.
So they're all in these
creative. So it won't take long
before they'll be doing the same thing.
Well, I don't need to
charge for this anymore. I don't
need, I afford everything I need and then
some. So the theory, the
economic theory is you can

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actually enter a moneyless society.
That's the driving force,
the engine behind the economy
is no longer money, tangible money. It's
intangible, spiritual, emotional payoff.

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It's like mankind almost like transcends
to another level. Right
now, it's very focused on
the physical, the tangible, the money,
the profit. Whereas
how you're describing it,
mankind will transcend that and be more

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spiritual, emotional
fulfillment and in that realm.
So that's really interesting. And it
seems like, I don't
know, it seems like there are
ever since kind of the beginning of

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commerce and things like that,
there have been throughout the
world, people and groups that have
similarly identified a parallel
projection of how the
future in mankind should live, which is,

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it sounds very similar to
what you're talking about, but
the difference that I see with them and
you is that you actually
have the path to get there.
Whereas others could just be sitting
around talking about it or
singing kumbaya about it.

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Whereas you actually have the path to get
there and it's crazy and
it's like the same end result,
but the path to get there is like
diametrically opposite. On
one side, it's like, just make
everything. It's like communism and
socialism and the other side is pure free

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market, just pure free
market will get you there. Right. And I'm
glad you brought that up
because you do hear a lot of this.
We'll just call it kumbaya. And what that
is, again, those are the
illusions being cast by our

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leaders. They have no right being our
leaders. I'm calling them
out for that. I have no right
because it's unearned power. They're
elected and they just, all
of a sudden they have all this
initiatory force power over us. It's
manipulation. It's completely wrong. So
what you're describing
there is them using an illusion to gain

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your vote. Their power is your vote. And
so they present this
compassionate outlook on the world, but
their compassion, and this
is how you always know their
power seekers as you look at their path
to provide that so-called
compassion and it requires

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initiatory force upon you and the people.
Always. That's the way you can see
through that. Now here's
the, let's just call it the irony. I'm
getting us to that point, but
through no initiatory force,
the diametric opposite, as you said. So
humankind will end up
getting there. And those people are

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the first to attack capitalism.
Capitalism is something evil and taking
advantage of people.
We've never had pure capitalism because
of the ruling class
initiating force on us and suppressing
things, but now in Immortales, it will
actually be just pure mutual value
exchange. That's pure

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capitalism. And in pure capitalism, we're
going to get to the ultimate
compassionate story that
these false leaders put out there as
illusions. But ours is real.
Ours is the real deal. This is
the path. It's never happened on planet
earth. It's never even
been identified because this

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civilization has been, you can't see what
you can't see. And they
don't see this because it's
never happened. But now through having
written the fictional presentation,
you'll think puzzle,
now I'm actualizing it. And it is the
actual way to a moneyless,
free, purely compassionate

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society where everything's done for
everyone else. But
that's what brings you,
that's what brings you your payoffs, your
happiness, your joy, your playfulness.
It's through creating values for others.
You're definitely tapping
into a sentiment that's,

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again, like I said, people have been
feeling this, humankind has
been feeling this since the
beginning. And now you're actually
offering the real path to
that. And it's never been offered.
It's never been offered. That's the key.
Like a real path that's actual logical
and without wishful

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thinking. So this is going
to be incredible to see and how this
comes to fruition. So also,
do you have any more examples?
Well, yeah, what I'd like to do is, so I
already covered what would
happen to the jobs of labor. So
we've settled that dispute, right? So now
we understand what's
going to happen there.
So now I want to talk about when we're in

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this rapidly evolving
civilization, I want to bring
in some of the emotions that, and I can
give you examples of
what's going to happen. When you
move into such a civilization where
you're no longer sort of
messing with jobs of labor,
you're really on man's essence now, on
value creation,

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everyone's on value creation. So
you're in that beautiful society, I call
it. Now, when that happens,
Neo think is going to take over. You see,
today we are stuck in
different levels of thinking,
perceptual thinking. I've talked a lot
about this support,

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basically a C react, you know,
you go to your job of labor, here are the
delegated responsibilities. You see them,
you do them, you see them, you do them.
Someone's like, you're a robot.
Correct. Yeah. 20 years later, 30 years
later, you see them, you
ask perceptual thinking.
Some people break out of that and rise to
conceptual thinking. So
where they get a little
more power, they can rise up a little bit

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maybe to a management
position, because they're thinking
more concepts like how can I improve the
business? They get curious,
they learn their business,
I write about project curiosity, and they
pull together some good
concepts that help the
company in different ways. So they rise
up a little bit. But
then there's Neo thinking.

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And 99% of the people are more never into
Neo thinking. Now, your
super achievers are all Neo
thinkers, Elon Musk is a Neo thinker,
Steve Jobs, Henry Ford was a
Neo thinker, Thomas Edison,
they're all Neo thinkers, that's super
achievers. And that's
pulling together concepts into what
I call these puzzle pictures. And you can
build these amazing

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puzzles, as I've done with creating
immortality. In fact, I've done several
Neo think puzzle pictures
along the way. That's why I've
sold $350 million in my books around the
world and 140 countries
and 12 languages because
I offer this marketable value, I've
created these values by using Neo think,
Neo think pulls together these puzzle

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pieces. And as in our, you
know, and as we've talked in the
past, I've laid out these puzzle pieces
that show how these things
form. Well, that's what's going
to happen. That's going to be the actual
common way of thinking in, in, in
mortality, because now
everyone's risen beyond their dead end
routine ruts and they're
all in this creative mode.

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So they're going to be moving into these
bigger, higher realms of
thinking, where they're going to
be bringing together puzzle pieces to
build these amazing,
what I call super puzzles,
Neo think super puzzles, super puzzles
that can push all of
humanity forward. And I have an
example, a little sneak peek into that

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right now, right today, right in our,
we'll just call it an
anti civilization, because it's not the
beautiful society. It's, it's, it's a
society where, where
we're pushed down through our cult. Okay.
So where everything's
backwards. Exactly. Everything's
backwards and upside down and good is
bad, bad is good. You'd all know what I

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mean. I don't need to
give examples. You all know what I mean.
So, all right. So in
this society, we just had an
administration change and incomes, Elon
Musk and Vivek Ramaswami with Doge,
Department of Government
Efficiency, Doge. And they put out what
at face value in this

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anti-civilization, you would look
at this and you would say, go to hell.
They put out this advertisement all over
social media saying,
we need you to work 80 plus hours a week
with no compensation. Well,
I'm telling you right now,
you, if anyone walks up to someone and

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say, you're going to work
for me for 80 hours a week
for free, I'm not going to pay you
anything. They take go to hell. Yeah. But
guess what's happening
here? Thousands and thousands
overwhelming response to Elon
and Vivek. They want to even,
and not just, you know, not just the
lowest of your dishwashers
and all that, even your top

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professionals, lawyers, doctors,
accountants, by the
thousands, they have so many resumes
that they can't even get to them all. So
what you're seeing
there is Doge is a little,
a little advanced peek at something that

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we'll be doing regularly in
Immortals. It is a move to
push all of humanity up, to push it by
getting rid of this corruption, by
cutting the ruling class,
by cutting the cult dramatically. I see.
I mean, Elon Musk is making
zero, he's actually losing
money doing this. There you go. Time

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opportunity costs. And all these other
people are just straight
up volunteering. Thousands have been
applying for this. Yes. Oh
yes. Yes. It's crazy. It's
overwhelming the response and not being
paid, not being paid,
working 80 hours a week. Yes. And,
and not just, you know, like I said, not
just as dishwashers,
we're talking about doctors,
accountants. I mean, highly paid

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professionals are willing to
take a leave and get into this
and see. So why? Because that's the
beauty of human nature.
When you are involved in a
neo-think super puzzle, which Doge is,
that's going to push and
lift all humanity. People
want to be part of that. Now I call it a
super puzzle. So what do

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they want to do? They want to
be a puzzle piece to the super puzzle
because they know it's for the good of
mankind. They want to be
part of that. Yeah. They want to be
plugged into that. And that's, they
aren't doing it for money.
They aren't doing it for money. Money,
moneyless now. These guys are receiving
no money whatsoever.
To them, they don't care about the money.

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They're pulled into,
they're sucked into the joy and
happiness and pride. Their child of the
past is coming back because
they're going to be a piece,
a puzzle piece to the super puzzle of
lifting humanity. That's
what neo-think super puzzles
do for you. And these people are doing
that in this current
civilization that you do need money

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to survive. So imagine in our
civilization where you do
not need money to survive.
Yeah. So again, humankind gets a
promotion to work on things
that are more contribution
and fulfilling and creating values for
others. And we see an example of that

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right now with Doge.
So that's, that's pretty crazy. And I'm
really starting to
understand this and it's making a
lot of sense. I mean, there's no other
reason why these guys are
doing a brutal work. I saw the
tweet from Doge. They're like, this is
going to be hard for good
work. 80 hours a week, no pay.

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And you have these high achievers
actually saying, yes, I'm
going to put everything aside
for, you know, almost two years and do
this because it's, it's
moving humanity forward.
And they have been calling for it to
create values for this country.
That's right. So there you see it. The,

(30:13):
the, the draw of
neo-think super puzzles, pure,
free neo-think super puzzles. It just
pulls people in, in this civilization
where they still need
their money to survive. So this
inflection point, this
paradigm shift into immortality,
you can just imagine. And let me tell

(30:34):
you, these people are so
over the top enthusiastic. I've
read a couple of the resumes that were
sent to, to Vivek and to Elon
and they're just over the top,
excited about doing this. It's like
they're calling. So imagine an
immortalist now where we

(30:55):
have these large neo-think super puzzles
that are lifting humanity as
a whole. Imagine the driving
force within the individuals, just that
level of joy and happiness. No longer
will someone be saying,
isn't there more to my life? Is this all
there is? No, they're going to

(31:16):
be excited beyond excitement.
They're going to be playing as adults, a
child of the past
returns. And guess what happens?
What? At this point in time, they are
suited to live eternally. They have no
more burden of life.
That's left them. Stagnation is gone. So
they're living

(31:36):
eternally suited. They are now
immortals and immortalists. Now we just
have to drive to cure
aging and death to make these
people who are now immortals. You see
your people today are not immortals
because the burden of life
grows as they get older. I won't go

(31:57):
through the whole thing, but
I've done that before where
you see why the burden of life starts
piling up on you because
you're not meant to live. Human
consciousness is not meant to live with
stagnation. And the
stagnation will kill you in the end
because we're not meant to live stagnant.
But in this immortalist,
in this other civilization,

(32:19):
stagnation will not enter. You'll always
be this over the top
enthusiastic for these,
you'll be playing at life for these
larger than life neo-think super puzzles
that you're a part of.
You have a piece, you know, I've written
about going back in some of
my books about the division
of essence at breakthrough in business,
from the division of labor to the
division of essence,
where you bring in the mind and the

(32:40):
creativity. Well, the neo-think super
puzzles where everyone's
plugging into these, that's the ultimate
division of essence. That's the way
mankind civilization
was supposed to live, live in unity, joy
and happiness. It's not
some stupid politician
out there putting out, painting out all
that bullshit to try to

(33:01):
get votes. This is the real
deal, baby. This is people moving into
the life they were meant to
live. Wow. And I see that. I
mean, especially with you, you don't need
to work, but you still do. And
you don't just work, you work
12, 14 hours, 16 hour days, writing and

(33:22):
doing all the things you're
doing. And I remember growing
up asking you, it's like, why? And then
you say, this is what I'm meant to do.
This is the neo-think
super puzzles is what I'm doing. Right.
You're helping others,
you're helping society, you're
trying to create a better world for you,
your loved ones, us,

(33:43):
your kids. Yeah. And society
itself. Our neo-think family, our 2
million members. And now I want to spread
that out across the world.
And I also see Elon Musk as another easy
example. He's going to Mars
and he's trying to colonize
Mars to make consciousness and

(34:04):
interplanetary species for when we get to
that point so we can
live beyond some of the current
limitations staying here on
Earth. And he's tweeted about,
people criticize him because he's not
going to be able to make
any money. And he's like,

(34:24):
you guys are missing the point
completely. Right. The reason
I'm doing this is to advance
civilization forward. The reason I'm
doing this is to save
consciousness from being wiped out or
limited by staying, only being able to
stay here on Earth. That's
right. So you start seeing that.
And also I see that in some artists where

(34:47):
they're, at least right
now, for some artists,
it's unfortunate they don't have the
monetary income to live, I mean, the
saying, the starving
artists. But there's a lot of them
because that's what they're meant for.
That's what they were born
to do. That's their calling. And they

(35:09):
still do it. They could make
a lot more money doing other
things, but they still continue to pursue
their passion. They're playing at life.
Right. They're playing at life even with
minimal income. Yes.
Because they're on their essence,
they're being creative, they're creating
values. And that's just, and
so you're saying every single
person will have that feeling. Every

(35:31):
single person will have that passion,
will know how they want
to contribute and create values and get
deep, everlasting
fulfillment. That's right. That child
of the past will rise up in everyone in
immortality. And I have a
prediction too. And when I say it's
going to sound way out there, but pretty
much everything I've been

(35:51):
saying today sounds way out
there, right? Yeah. So I have a
prediction that people such
as Elon Musk and the people,
the billionaires, there's the whole
billionaire club out there who want to
live forever. They're
pouring hundreds of millions of dollars
toward longevity. But I
have information for you guys.

(36:12):
It's not going to happen in your
lifetime, not when you're in the
anti-civilization with the cult
and all the initiatory force holding
everything back since the
past quarter of century. Remember
everyone used to be saying around the
turn of the century, seven
years till we cure aging. So,
and they're still saying that today.
Right. You know what I call the loop.

(36:32):
It's the loop in the
anti-civilization. They pull the, the,
the initiatory force, regulatory
baroxies, pull everything down.
You met scientists in Singapore at the
Balaji conference. They
tell you there's nowhere in the
world they can progress on their research
because of regulations,
legislation, litigation.
Right. They're working with an arm and a
leg tied behind their back. Exactly.
Low down, which also is less incentive

(36:54):
for investors to get in
because instead of having
cures in six months, they have to take 10
years because the FDA or
the tape, it takes forever.
Right. And you know, we had the example,
your grandfather, my
father, they had a cure for cancer
50 years ago at DuPont with that
extremely fine textile and pregnated with
cancer killing drugs

(37:16):
would be injected into the bloodstream.
It would encase the tumors
throughout your body and be
harmless inside you at that point. So
that was 50 years ago, but the
regulations, the anti-civilization
and those cost prohibitive regulations
killed that project. And if
that's at the largest chemical
company in the world, you can just
imagine your scientists that you met at

(37:36):
the Balaji conference.
Now it's 50 years ago. 50 years ago. And
the hand just got, got
heavier every single year.
So if they couldn't do it then, they
can't do it now. That's right. And then
look at all the lives
we've lost to cancer in the past 50 years
that would have been cured.
Okay. So that's the damage
of the cult. And we don't realize how

(37:57):
damaging it is because we've been
brainwashed and we need
deprogramming. I think the deprogram is
going to start with Doge
because for the first time,
people are going to say, hell no, we
don't need a ruling class. At
least not like we have today.
It will begin to deprogram them. I call
it staging for immortality. But here's my
prediction. It seems
way out there, but like I said,

(38:17):
everything I've been saying today, it
seems way out there. I do
believe the billionaires who want to live
forever, that they're going to realize in
the anti-civilization,
they're never going to get it in their
lifetime. Yeah. Their
grandkids may get it, but they won't
get it themselves. And that's the most
important thing to them.
It's not their companies. That's
important to them. But the most important
thing to them is to cure

(38:37):
aging and death. Right. Because
they don't want to die. And there's no
way to do that in this
anti-civilization. The only way to
do that is with the prime law
constitution of immortality that
prohibits any initiatory force.
So you don't have the cult suppressing
everything and you just have
this boom of creativity that
we've been talking about. And then we

(39:00):
will cure aging and death
within our lifetimes. So my
prediction is that those billionaires at
billionaire club, and
including people like Elon Musk, are
going to come to our land base or help us
even get that sooner than 10 years,
because they have the
money, the power, the influence to really
help us get the land and

(39:21):
get sovereignty. All right. My
prediction is that some of those guys are
going to get on board
because once we have land and
sovereignty, it will overnight become the
medical mecca of the world.
Because all these scientists
that you've run into, all these DuPont
scientists, all these
companies that are not like wired in

(39:41):
with the ruling class, these companies,
these true, honest value creators,
geniuses will have this
brain drain. They'll come to immortality
and they are going to cure
aging and death within our
lifetime. You're not just talking about a
new country. You're not
just talking about a new
governance model. You're talking about a

(40:05):
whole new era of human
existence that's never been seen on
this planet ever before. I'm glad you
said that. It's a whole new paradigm of
existence and living.
This is crazy. And I'm just aligning, and
you're absolutely right, it
will be the first civilization
on earth that joins our cousins

(40:26):
throughout the universe.
And what I mean by that is,
there is what I call a civilization of
the universe. Every
civilization throughout the
universe reached a point where they had
the power, the nuclear
power to wipe out civilization.
That's called your nuclear decision

(40:48):
threshold. We're right
there on planet earth. We are at
our nuclear decision threshold. And
what's the threshold? Wiping
ourselves out with a nuclear
holocaust or removing irrationality from
society. We're inundated with the

(41:09):
irrationality. You just
look around the world today. There's
irrationality that's coming out of our
years all over the world,
including right here in America. So to
surpass that, you have to,
my father, the author and
discoverer of neo-tech philosophy, which
grew out of Ayn Rand's
objectivism and the long line of
Aristotelian philosophers, he pointed out

(41:31):
that the mind disease of
human beings, he called it
mysticism. Basically that means
irrationality, which involves laziness
and dishonesty. All of
our leaders in the cult are mystical
people. They got their lazy root and
they're dishonest as hell.
And we just need to open the eyes to

(41:51):
people. But through my past, we've
confronted the ruling
class and we've had to take a lot of
blows by doing so. Now,
instead of confronting them,
I'm simply withdrawing from them and I'm
inviting everyone who
understands what I'm
talking about here today, I'm inviting
you to join me in
Immortales and get in the community.

(42:14):
Because this is the future. As I was
saying, it's the first
civilization on earth that joins
our cousins throughout the civilization
universe, because the
civilization universe are those
civilizations who have surpassed their
nuclear decision threshold
by purging irrationality,
laziness, dishonesty, and they are, well,

(42:35):
what Immortales is going
to become. They are just a
joyful child of the past, happy value
creators, creating their values for
others. And it's just
a beautiful, safe, healthy, wealthy, but
not with money, but with
feelings of happiness and joy.

(42:55):
Society out there, and that's
civilization of the universe. That's what
we're starting on earth.
First time on earth, we've always been in
an anti-civilization.
Now we're joining the
civilization of the universe. It's wild
to me because, you know,
other, there have been other
out there theories who've been kind of

(43:16):
wanting to have a similar end
result. But a huge difference
I see is that they're trying to like
change and manipulate and
kind of like do some contortions
to get there. But with what you're
saying, it's the
complete opposite. You're just

(43:38):
removing limitations. You're removing
blockers and barriers and
limitations from individuals
and from society itself. Removing
initiatory force, removing
mysticism or mind limitations
and things like that, removing dependence

(44:00):
on certain things. And
you're just allowing people
to be free. You're allowing people's
minds to be free. You're allowing
businesses to be free.
You're allowing civilization to be free.
And it's nothing complex
at all. All it is is just

(44:22):
removing the limitations and letting
people do what they want to do.
You know, that's so great you brought
that up. Let's just
take a real quick example.
The Bill of Rights. The Bill of Rights
were listing rights. The
problem is once you start
listing rights, then there are, once you

(44:45):
list rights, then there are
things that you don't have.
And the Founding Fathers really struggled
over the Bill of
Rights. There's a history,
we can at another time talk about all of
this. But what the Prime
Law does, which will be the
Constitution of Immortales, it does
exactly what you just said. It just
removes the negative.

(45:07):
It doesn't add the positive because the
positive can start being
manipulated and changed, as we've
seen over the decades. The Bill of Rights
has very little power now. It's
battle-worn. But once you
remove the negative, which is what the
Prime Law, that's all the Founding
Fathers needed was the
Prime Law. And they were just this close.
They were so close to it.

(45:28):
But, you know, there were a lot
of pressures back then. The country was
in debt. They lost
able-bodied men during the war. The
colonies were starting to fall apart.
They had to find this
balance between the Federalists and
the Anti-Federalists. So, you know, the
Bill of Rights, you know, it was
introduced. But that's
adding the positive. Adding the positive

(45:49):
today is tearing apart the
country. You know, we have all
these rights, rights, rights, DEI rights,
ESG rights, you know,
all these minority rights,
all these rights. But you need to just
remove the negative. And
by the way, the Prime Law is
the fundamental natural law of
protection. So it protects everyone
because it protects the

(46:11):
smallest of all the minorities, the
minority of one. And once you
protect the minority of one,
everyone is equally protected. You don't
need all these rights all over the place,
which can be manipulated and used to gain
votes and to control
and suppress civilization.
Do this for some people, to suppress
these people. All that goes away by
removing the negative. That

(46:32):
was the big thing that the founders of
our country miss was
removing the negative.
And by the negative, you mean the only
thing that gives politicians and people
who want to manipulate
you power, which is initiatory for you.
You have to remove that. And once you
remove it, there's no
corruption that can happen,
which with rights corruption does happen,

(46:54):
right? Because you can
manipulate change and use those
rights. But once you remove the negative,
there's nothing you can
do to corrupt or manipulate
anything because the negative has been
removed. So really, it all
just comes down to you saying
this whole, all of this is just simply
get out of the way to the
ruling class, the politicians,

(47:15):
to people who want to manipulate you.
It's like, just get them out
of the way and let people be
free to do what they want and pursue
their passions. And
humans are naturally good and
we will just naturally get there. But all
these things, all these
politicians, the ruling class
are just blocking and slowing things down

(47:37):
and distorting things and
just keep getting in the way
of humankind, whose humankind will just
do the right thing. And once
they're out of the way, then
humanity can transcend.
And I'll tell you, because wherever I go,
I get these, well, what
about this? Well, what about
that? Well, what about this? And everyone
watching this will be
saying that to you, what you just

(47:57):
said. Well, what about this? What about
these people? What about,
you know, but here's the thing
to remember. The prime law is removing
initiatory force. That's
the only thing that's evil in
society. So first of all, the desire for
crime will almost go away

(48:18):
completely because everyone
will be wealthy and Immortalis. So the
motivation of money, you know, for crime,
that just goes away.
But the other thing is the consequences
would be so swift because
we're so honed in on that.
So swift and so unforgiving for

(48:40):
initiatory force that it just won't
happen. And it doesn't need to
happen. Everything's beautiful in that
society. So you would not
have crime in immortalists.
You would have only a theory of crime or
your grandchildren will say, "Daddy,

(49:02):
what, or granddaddy,
what's crime? What is that?" And it would
be so foreign to their
minds. It wouldn't even,
you would say, well, you know, sometimes
people used to stab people
for money and they would go,
you know, it would just be so outside of
the realm of the
beautiful society. And this is no
utopia. This is immortalist. This is

(49:23):
real. I've laid it all out in my book,
The Super Puzzle. It's
a trilogy. And now we're actualizing
that. This is not some pipe dream. This
is not some fantasy.
This is not some science fiction. This is
an unbroken line of
logic that's easily followed.
This is the real deal. This is not an
illusion. Wow. And so for

(49:46):
somebody to take next steps or
wants to get involved and find out more
and wants to be a part of
this incredible movement,
what do they do? Well, they could go to
joinimmortalis.com. That's join, and
then I-M-M-O-R-T-A-L-I-S,
joinimmortalis.com to learn more, join
the community and see

(50:07):
what we're up to. Well,
that's amazing. That's super exciting.
Well, I got a question for
you before we go, Wallace.
What do you think if you sat down with
some of your friends and
tried to talk to them about this?
What would happen? What do you think they
would, how they would react to you?
It depends how I approach it, but I feel
like, well, some of them,

(50:29):
it depends how I pre-frame
it because just if I talk to somebody,
you know, they might be
trapped in their, in the current
way of thinking. Yes. You know, when
anytime there's a new idea
or a societal, a new idea
that changes the dynamics of humankind or
civilization for the
better, it always at first

(50:49):
gets mocked, ridiculed, you get called
crazy and things like that.
It's just because people are
trapped in a box of the current way of
doing things. So that's,
that projection of doing
something new is so foreign. So for some
of my friends, that would
be the case for some other

(51:10):
of my friends who are much more
open-minded and kind of deeper, bigger
thinkers, they could probably
start to really understand it. But if I
just start off with the fact
saying kind of with the prime
law, it's like, should one person be able
to force somebody else to do something
they don't want to do?

(51:31):
I mean, that's the something every single
person on planet earth
will agree with unless
they are an evil person or want to
manipulate other people. Okay. So that's
where a lot of people do
start with the prime law. But once you go
beyond the prime law to
where we went to today,
that's where you lose them. Okay. So I'm

(51:52):
just going to say this
right now. That's why I'm so
excited about Doge because they've all
been, with illusions,
they've all been brainwashed.
They need to be deprogrammed. Our entire
civilization, all
civilizations throughout
the world have been brainwashed thinking
we must have that ruling class up there
controlling civilization. Right. So Doge

(52:13):
is going to break that
spell, going to deprogram the cult
victims, which is civilization, by
showing them that we don't need them up
there. And that's going
to open people's eyes. And then I want
you to talk to your friends because then
they'll be able to say,
let's go all the way. Let's go to
Immortalis. Right. So

(52:35):
join us in Immortalis. That's
joinimmortalis.com. I'll see you there.