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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Mavericks.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
South Carolina Congresswoman Nancy Mace has announced her campaign for governor.
She's also a key member of the House Oversight Committee,
and they dropped a banger list of who is getting
subpoena next. She's here this hour plus elements of Israel's
government now saying that the occupation of Gaza is their objective,
even if it costs the lives of hostages. We've got
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an expert panel to explain the latest in the moves
in the Holy Land, and Texas Democrats are running from
redistricting maps that favor Republicans. A Texas state lawmaker is
with us tonight to explain how the state that still
remembers the Alamo may forget how to do a proper
quorum call. We'll stir it up with some healthier drinks
and the coolest dictator in the world. It's all next
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to the Matt Gids Show.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Let's do this shaking up Washington, d C. We're breaking
the fever.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Do you haven't watch this guy on television.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
It's like a machine.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
He's great. Matt Gates as we join you this evening.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Israel is increasingly posturing to invade and occupy Gaza. Allow
me to offer a word of warning to the powerful
and distant who seek to rule over the local and entrenched.
It doesn't always turn out like you think. America believed
we would liberate Iraq. Instead, it was a bloody quagmire
for a generation. We were told the Afghans wanted us
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to save them from the Taliban. Turns out that Taliban
is back, now stronger and more weaponized than ever. All
we got in return where cast gets draped in flags.
Here's why tonight matters. Earlier today, Israel's Prime Minister bb
Netan Yahoo met with senior security officials to hammer out
Gaza war plans, with the vision of the IDF taking
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military control of the entire territory. Bb is ready to
do this even if it means that Hamas might harm
or execute the remaining Israeli hostages in Gaza. On this program,
the father of an Israeli hostage, Uhuda Cohen, told us
that Bbe's primary concern was himself. What do you think
matters more to the Prime Minister maintaining power or getting
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the hostages home?
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Maintaining power.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
BB's priorities get clearer by the day, and it doesn't
seem to include President Trump's desire for peace. President Trump
wants the killing to stop. He is the greatest voice
for peace in the world. Israel wants to occupy Gaza.
And if that seems distant and far away and foreign
and not important to your life, as you watch this
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program last night, the former chief operating officer of our
nation's government, Donald Trump's former chief of staff.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Told you you'd be paying for it. We have to
pay for this. At the end of the day.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Are the American people going to be funding an Israeli
occupation in Gaza?
Speaker 6 (02:41):
Well, I mean, as you know, the appropriations, the Senate
will not be shy about asking for that on behalf
of Israel and our foreign allies there. But listen, this
gets down to not an occupation that I would necessarily recommend.
Maybe this is a way to go after Hamas directly,
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that's one thing. If it's a long occupation, somebody's gonna
pay for And I can tell you there's not an
appetite for the American people to do that.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
So do you, my fellow Americans, want to pay for
Israel to occupy Gaza. A new Gallup poll released last
week shows only thirty two percent of Americans approve of
Israel's military action in Gaza. That's the lowest mark since
Gallup began asking the question two years ago. Public support
for Israel's war in Gaza is a melting ice cube
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in America.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
No serious person who can count. We'll dispute this.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Sixty percent of Americans disapprove. It's safe to say, if
you don't like what you're seeing in Gaza, you probably
don't want to be the one paying for it. Marjorie
Taylor Green is a Republican with a clear understanding of
base sentiment. She posted a rather strident message on social
media recently. Quote I can unequivocally say that what happened
to innocent people in Israel on October seventh was horrific,
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just as I can say on equivocally that what is
happening to innocent people and children in Gaza is horrific,
And why should America continue funding this? The secular government
of nuclear armed Israel has proven that they are beyond
capable of dealing with their enemies and are capable of
systemically cleansing them from the land. We are beyond fed
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up with being told that we have to fix the
world's problems, pay for the world's problems, fight all the
world's wars, and many of us, even though we are Christians,
no longer want to fund and fight these wars, especially
when it leads to starving children, killing innocent people, including Christians.
Of course, we are all against radical Islamic terrorism, but
we are also against genocide.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Spicy, So, is MTG right?
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Why is the US funding Israel's effort in Gaza? Is
Mark Meadow's right that we're going to be paying the bill?
Do you want to pay for Israel to become the
neighborhood crime watch of whatever is left of Gaza City?
Are these reasonable operational questions to ask without being called
an anti Semite? Joining us now Executive director of the
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American Conservative magazine Kurt Mills and news editor at anti
war dot Com and host of Anti War News Dave
to Camp. So, Dave, I'll start with you, what are
you tracking regarding the changing thinking within Israel about how
they're approaching the Gaza campaign?
Speaker 7 (05:24):
Well, net Yahoo, it's been clear from what we're seeing
in Israeli media and comments from net Yahoo and his
top officials that they're getting prepared for a major escalation here.
The idea is to capture the remaining territory in Gaza
that is not completely under Israeli military control, which is
only about twenty five percent of the Gaza Strip. And
right now, the idea of an escalation in Gaza at
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this point is very concerning considering the daily death toll
that we see is around one hundred people per day.
I know a lot of people might question the numbers
from Gaza's health ministry, but there's been several studies that
find they're actually likely an undercount.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
And we all see the.
Speaker 7 (06:04):
Pictures and videos coming out of Gaza every day, these
people getting killed on their way to aid sites. So
things have been really horrific lately, but they're looking to
take things to the next level, it looks like, and unfortunately,
it looks like the Trump administration and President Trump is
willing to back net Yahoo with this big escalation, even
though we see many former Israeli security officials, about six
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hundred of them just wrote a letter to President Trump
asking him to force net and Yahoo to end this.
And the reason why they're asking Trump to end this
is because he is the person with the with the
power to get this to stop. Because Israel Is so
reliant on that US military aid, and even with these
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starvation deaths that we're seeing in Gaza, the Trump administration
still appears ready to continue backing essentially whatever netanyak who
wants to do in Gaza, Kurt, How.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Does that occupation go?
Speaker 2 (07:01):
It seemingly is an occupation of rubble, but there are
people there who aren't leaving. It doesn't really seem like
this is a precise campaign.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
It's just a takeover. How do you see it?
Speaker 8 (07:14):
Well, it's almost certainly not going to be and is
rarely only exercise, or at least that's not the purpose
of opening up the strategy. The President early in his
term floated, you know, the Gaza Laga Lago program, where
you know, they would try to redevelop it and try
to create you know, essentially a French riviera style thing
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on the Gaza strip. I think that's essentially a pipe
dream and something that is you know, essentially designed to
appeal to the President's vanity and get him into a
development scheme. It's very similar to the minerals deal that
was ink of Ukraine TBD on a the US taxpayer
ever sees much wealth come from that, you know, alleged minerals.
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I think the goal here is Netna, who needs constant action.
He needs to be seen doing something. Already, he's treated
the political gains he got from the so called Twelve
Day War, and he needs a new theater, and so
that is the alleged occupation of Gaza. Then he'll call
in to Uncle Sam in Washington and try to get
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concessions there. But I think the more worrying thing, and
because we've seen this time and again, is that Netna
who actually takes his eye off the ball relatively with Moss.
The real worry is that they're going to try to
reopen the war with Iran in the autumn, as soon
as September.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
And I wanted to ask you, Dave, how do you
think the Muslim world is going to react to an
Israeli led, potentially US financed occupation of Gaza.
Speaker 7 (08:49):
Well, with the US supporting Israel to the hilt like this,
you know, there always is the risk of blowback terrorism.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
At this point.
Speaker 7 (08:57):
You know, most of Israel's opponents in the region, including Hesbala,
and you know groups that are near the Israeli border
are essentially neutered. I mean the New Syrian regime that
the al Qaeda government that has been installed in Damascus
has been very deferential toward Israel. But we're still seeing
Israel invade and bomb Syria. But you know, Iran is
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really the big threat, the only country that can really
do some heavy blows to Israel. They've shown that they're
not interested in war unless they come under attack again.
And as Kurt says, you know, if the US doesn't
really change the policy here of just backing net Nyahu
one hundred percent, I wouldn't be surprised if we find
ourselves in another war with Iran. And there's also a
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lot of signals here that Israel's preparing an escalation in Lebanon.
That could be the theater that net Yahoo might move
to to keep stay in this constant state of war
and escalation. Since November twenty twenty four, there's been a
so called ceasefire deal, but Israel has flagrantly violated it,
and there's signs and reports that that they're preparing and
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they've been increasing the air strikes, and you know, so
this is all about staying in that constant state of
war for Netnaho to stay in power, to get more
political support.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Kurt, how is public sentiment changing in the United States?
On this question, it seems I use the phrase like
a melting ice cube is how I view the support.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
For Israel right now. It's increasingly unpopular on the right
on the left.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Where is the political constituency for the United States funding
Israel's war in Gossam?
Speaker 8 (10:38):
I think the political constituency is two fold. There's an
League constituency, and then there's an older electorate in the
Republican Party that is the sort of Bush wing more
differential Taho differential might be underplaying. And I mean you
see the Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson. He seems
to almost envy Israel and envy Nenya, who know his country.
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So it's pretty extraordinary. But I think it's a limited constituency,
a powerful one, but a narrow one. Polling has come
out on Nantyahuo's approval in the country and it is
it's sub forty percent. It's a disaster. And I think
the reality is for the base voter in both parties,
they have now seen if you're a base Democratic voter,
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you saw an administration arguably toppled.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
Over Israel protests.
Speaker 8 (11:26):
And if you're a base voter in the Republican Party
or in the Maga movement. You're now seeing an administration
distracted and submerged into this war. It's very redolent of Vietnam.
The war was a Democrat war, and Nixon ran in
sixty eight on getting out and Trump for all the comparisons,
Nixon still has an opportunity.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
To do that.
Speaker 8 (11:47):
But you know, if we're still talking about Israel, Gaza,
ron come Christmas, putting aside Russia Ukraine, people have already
forgotten President Biden. Right, these are going to become unfortuate
the administration's wars, and that's the liability for the right, Dave, is.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
There a lot of popular sentiment for an occupation of
Gaza within Israel? Or as this goes on further, is
there a risk that Netnyahu's coalition could break over this
as tragically a lot of IDF personnel would die in
such an occupation.
Speaker 7 (12:22):
M there's certainly support for the idea for an occupation
among certain elements of the Netnyahu government, including Bezilosmotrich and
Itamar Bengavir and the settlers, which do not represent a
majority of Israeli.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Yeah, that's the fall right I'm talking about in the
broader body politic in Israel.
Speaker 7 (12:43):
It appears that most people in Israel right now want
a deal because they know the escalation will lead to
the deaths of the captives, could lead to the deaths
of the captives in Israel. In fact, the report in
the Times of Israel today after Netnya who held his meeting,
it said that Netya Who's ready to order the full occupation,
even if it may lead to the killing of the
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hostages in Gaza. So the majority of Israelis I believe,
want a deal. They know that that's the way to
get them out. But you do have this faction, you know,
what we call the far right. They're not as fringe
as people like to believe anymore. They hold significant political
power and they're you know, calling for settlement and occupation
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of Gaza. And there's also been indications that Netnyah who
might actually start annexing territory in Gaza. And if that
starts to happen, this is not going to end without
you know, genocide, full on genocide and ethnic cleansing of
the Palestinian population. If Israel actually starts officially declaring you
know that this territory is now part of Israel, because
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that means they're never giving it up.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Kurt, how are the countries that are the signatories to
the Abraham Accords feeling right now? Like if you're the
UAE or some of these other Muslim country ties, certainly
within your own body politic, Israel's actions and Gaza have
to be growing increasingly unpopular. Is there going to be
a pressure from the citizenry of some of these Muslim
countries to have their leadership taking a more adversarial tone
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toward Israel?
Speaker 8 (14:18):
Yeah, I mean, I think the Abraham of Cords exists,
but it's been substantially weakened. I mean, it is basically
turning into as powerful as the Organization of American States.
It meets, it has a function, other countries may join it,
but the real teeth, the real purpose of the thing,
which was comedy and the end of war in the
Middle East and an Israeli led block in the region,
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I think is not happening. There's been much of ink
spilled on alleged Israeli hegemony and I've given this elsewhere,
but my sense of the region, and I've traveled there
twice in the last two months is that Israel is
effectively an air force base. It can torment any of
its enemies, it can call in favors with Uncle Sam
and DC. But the idea that it has any popular
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legitimacy in the region of anything, it's falling apart.
Speaker 9 (15:07):
And Israel's politics itself are so unstable. Net Yah, who
can't just rest on his laurels. He actually got what
he wanted. He's been trying to get the US to
bomb Ran for thirty years and he got it. And
the honeymoon lasted.
Speaker 8 (15:23):
Seven weeks, And I mean, there really is And to
just go back to the previous topic, there really is
no limit to what net Yahoo won't consider. I mean,
frankly not to say that Hamas has acted, Restraint has acted,
restraint has been restrained in this war. But the reality is,
when Israel broke the truce or has broke the ceasefire
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in March, a lot of people expected Hamas to execute
the hostages. And so net Nyahu is just ineluctibly, inevitably
going down this road where he has shown clear a
cavalier approach towards the lives of the hostages and the
hostage is families. I don't speak for all of them,
but the preponders of them have been very clear. They're
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anti this government, they want a deal, they want their
family home.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Yeah, we've heard from some of them on this program.
Kurt Mills, executive director of the American Conservative and Dave DeCamp,
the editor a news editor at anti war dot com
and anti War News. Thank you both for coming on
the program and sharing the latest. Thanks Matt and coming up.
Congress Womanute Nancy Mace is running for governor of South Carolina.
She's also a key member of the House Oversight Committee,
where there's big news today about requests to interview the
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Speaker 1 (16:34):
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Speaker 11 (18:54):
South Carolina is tired of politicians who smile for the cameras,
lie to your face, and then vanish when it's time
to lead.
Speaker 12 (19:03):
I'm not one of them.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
I'm running for governor because South Carolina doesn't need another
empty suit. The days of leving criminals walk the streets
of South Carolina, not being charged, not being indicted, not
being prosecuted. The days of treating victims like criminals and
criminals like victims are over.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
That was Nancy Mace of South Carolina launching her coubernatorial bid.
South Carolina is a critically important state politically, it plays
a key role in determining the American presidency. It will
be the first Democratic primary in twenty twenty eight and
the first in the South for Republicans. The Civil War
started in South Carolina, and the race for governor in
the state maybe a civil war within the Republican primary
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and the Republican Party at large. We heard Budget Hawk
Representative Ralph Norman make his case to lead the Palmeto
State on our program.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
South Carolina is at a crossroads.
Speaker 13 (19:56):
We've got a lot of decisions that we will have
to make and uh, you know, whether it's the dilapidated roads,
whether it's the tort reform that we've got to deal with,
whether selection to judges, all that is going to be
made by somebody that's willing to, as you did, uh press,
press the issue and and make things happen.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
I will do that now.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Congresswoman Mace brings a fighting spirit, a moderate record on
some issues, and a real understanding of stagecraft.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
To the race.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Well, of course.
Speaker 12 (20:34):
You're always invited in. And by the way, I voted
for gay marriage twice to do so. I'm just saying
it has to do everything.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
To do with you.
Speaker 12 (20:45):
I do absolutely.
Speaker 14 (20:46):
I'm going to be sharing some of the imagery that
Patrick Bryant, that guy right there, I took of myself
and other women without our knowledge, without our permission, without
our consent, naked bodies, women's ledge spread apart different genital areas.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Representative mass On.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
The House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer just announced today
that he's issued subpoenas for a host of high profile
individuals to appear for depositions in the coming months. That
list includes former President Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, James Comy,
Robert Muller, former Attorney General Merrick Garland, Bill Barr, Jeff Sessions,
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Alberto Gonzalez, Loretta Lynch, Eric Holder. Just a lot of
really bad people joining us now. The stellar congresswoman from
South Carolina, she's running for governor. She's a key member
of the House Oversight Committee. Let's start on Capitol Hill.
Congresswoman Chairman Comer just released this very extensive witness list
with some big names like the Clintons. What is the
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chairman told you about his plan in this investigation? What's
it about and what tools will we use to bring
in these witnesses.
Speaker 11 (21:55):
Well, the first step in any investigation is issuing subpoenas,
and our committee did that today and there is a
long list of about eleven individuals who are going to
be subpoenaed.
Speaker 12 (22:04):
Over this issue.
Speaker 11 (22:06):
And I voted to release Epstein files, by the way,
and am part of have co sponsored the.
Speaker 12 (22:12):
Bill to do that as well.
Speaker 11 (22:13):
And you know, we want to make sure that the
American people have answers, and we're going to be asking
a lot of tough questions when these people come before
a committed to be deposed and hopefully testify.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Yeah, I'm just wondering what are you going to ask
Bill Clinton if he shows up?
Speaker 12 (22:27):
Gosh, where do I start? You know, Bill Clinton? I
want to know how many times he was on the plane.
Speaker 11 (22:32):
President Trump has said he was at Epstein Island twenty
eight times, right, or flew on the plane twenty eight times?
And so that'll be my first question more than likely,
how did you enjoy Epstein Island?
Speaker 2 (22:44):
You're running for governor. I'm eager to chat with you
about that campaign. Obviously, South Carolina very important state politically.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
What do you think makes you stand out in a
crowded race.
Speaker 11 (22:55):
Well, in this race, we're ahead in every poll. No
one will work Carter for South Carolina. We have a
huge opportunity to have an America first governor, not just
in South Carolina, but in every state across the nation.
I'm working really hard, both on fundraising and on policy.
I unveiled an eight point plan yesterday. Even though I'm
in a bright red state, our state wide leaders turned
a blind eye to sanctuary policies. We had a rogue sheriff,
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sanctuary sheriff last year that was letting illegals out that
were rapists, they were murderers and pedophiles, and there was
only one person that stood up, and that was me,
and I got her.
Speaker 12 (23:27):
Unelected in November.
Speaker 11 (23:28):
And I don't understand why this is happening. We have
the highest state income tax in the Southeast. We're not
competing with Florida, your home state. You guys have zero
state income tax. We're not competing with Georgia or North Carolina.
I unveiled a five year plan to cut it down
to zero, and I look forward to unveiling all of
our plans for education, healthcare, all of those things.
Speaker 12 (23:50):
We're doing it now, we're doing it live.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
You've represented a purple district in Congress, and if someone
were asked about your ideology, I don't know that there
would be like a one or two two word phrase
that would really capture it, other than maybe you're a Maverick.
What would you describe to people maybe who aren't familiar
with some of your policy positions, about what it means
to be a Nancy Mace Republican.
Speaker 11 (24:11):
Well, it means to be a fiscal conservative but also
have and be an independent voice. As you know, Matt,
we fought some big fights on the hill, particularly when
it came to the debt ceiling.
Speaker 12 (24:20):
When it came to spending.
Speaker 11 (24:21):
I blame both Republicans and Democrats for the thirty seven
trillion dollars of debt and counting that we have in
this country. And so I've held both sides accountable, particularly
when it comes to the power of the purse and
how much spending we have because we're on this cliff,
and I think it's important that we as Conservatives call
out members of our own party, and I've been doing
that every step of the way since I got elected
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to Congress.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
The spending in South Carolina from state government has at
times gone to major corporations to bring manufacturing to the state,
and the state has become a manufacturing powerhouse. But should
state government be using taxpayer funds to buy jobs or
sports teams?
Speaker 11 (25:00):
Even I mean, we have invested in some really you know,
cronyism here in South Carolina. We have a budget that's
just over forty billion dollars pre COVID in twenty nineteen,
Matt the earmarks and the state budget were around thirty million. Well,
yet last year it was about seven hundred million. So
how does that happen in that short period of time?
And so in my plan to reign back and turn
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the taxes down to zero over five years. Is to
reign in that spending in our general fund, which is
about one third of the budget. Is to cap that,
limit that and give people a permanent rebate on their
taxes to cut it down to zero. We have a
lot of reckless spending that we can we can get
under control if we really address it in a smart, sensible,
common sense way, just like Donald Trump would.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Well, one of the ways that state spending kind of
mirrors with the work you've been doing in Congress is
on healthcare spending. There were all kind of false allegations
against Republicans that we were trying to hurt Medicare or Medicaid,
when the reality is a lot of people in Washington
wanted to send the decisions to the states around.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
The Medicaid program.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
So if you could apply, if you were governor of
South Carolina, and you could apply for any Medicaid waiver.
And I know you've got a very good relationship with
President Trump, He's definitely going to take your call. What
is it that you're going to do to design a
cow or a South Carolina specific plan on Medicaid?
Speaker 11 (26:20):
Well, Number one, I was at a little coffee shop
this morning in Charleston, South Carolina, called the Beary Patch,
And I had a woman who came up to me
in tears and she was disabled, lives in a nursing home,
literally crying because she's been told that Donald Trump's going
to take her Medicaid away and that she.
Speaker 12 (26:36):
Won't be able to live in this home.
Speaker 11 (26:37):
And I told her it's very clear she was disabled,
that that was not going to happen when I'm governor,
not on my watch, and that we would be there
for every step of the way. And Donald Trump wasn't
taking away her Medicaid.
Speaker 12 (26:48):
But however, if.
Speaker 11 (26:49):
You're an able bodied person and you can work, you're
going to get a job, because you want every citizen
who can be a productive member of society go and
get a job and work and those benefits. But for
those who are disabled who need that kind of care,
you're going to have it under Donald Trump's presidency and
under my leadership as governor.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
At times, you've come under attack from pro life groups
because your views on when life begins and those questions
tend to drift toward the middle. If you were a
governor of South Carolina and someone sents you legislation to
require a woman to have an ultrasound and to view
that ultrasound before having an abortion.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Would you sign that bill or view to it?
Speaker 5 (27:28):
Oh?
Speaker 12 (27:28):
One hundred percent. And I believe I've even co sponsored.
Speaker 11 (27:30):
Legislation or written legislation to that effect. Life begins at conception,
when you hear that heartbeat, when you see that baby on.
Speaker 12 (27:38):
The monitor, It's not a blob. That is a real,
live human being.
Speaker 11 (27:42):
And I think it would help some women make decisions
that are different and give life back. I've also authored
a bill that would create a website called life dot
gov and would show parents and show women there's a
way if you want to give up your baby for
adoption and don't want to abort that child, that there's
a way medical care, lead fees, adoption services, etc. And
(28:03):
when it comes to abortion, I share Donald Trump's policies
on that as well. And we want to show compassion
to women who need it desperately.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
So, Nancy Mace, she is a Maverick. There will not
be another Nancy Mace in Washington after this governor's race.
She will either be leading her wonderful state of South
Carolina or we'll be missing her in Congress.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
So one way or the other.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
We wish you safety on the trail and we hope
you'll check back in with us as your campaign progresses.
Speaker 12 (28:27):
Hi, praise, thank you, Matt's good to see you.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Take care and coming up. In Texas, there really is
a hooplag going on. Democrats have left the state to
deprive the lawmaking body of a quorum necessary to pass
a very controversial redistricting plan. That plan would give more
power to the Republican Congressional delegation in Washington. We'll talk
about it with Representative Briscoe Caine from the Lone Star
(28:51):
Republic after quick break.
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We head to Texas, where in the lone Star Republic
Governor Greg Abbot is unleashing redistricting hell fire on over
fifty House Democrats who fled to Chicago on Sunday, breaking
quorum to torpedo a redistricting map that could hand Republicans
five more congressional seats. Now he's vowing arrests, five hundred
dollars daily fines, and even vacating their seats if they
(31:32):
don't scurry back by Monday's vote. This is an Abbot's
first rodeo. He's channeling that no nonsense Texas s grit,
threatening civil arrests via the Department of Public Safety, and
slamming these absconders for what he calls their potential felonies
in their fundraising schemes. Should funding an escape be a
legal thing for elected officials to be able to do.
(31:54):
With the Texas House packing eighty eight Republicans and just
sixty two Democrats, quorum still demands one hundred members. These
runaways include vocal ones Select Representatives John Bucy and Johnson
and James tall Rico. They have ground the action in Austin.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
To a halt.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Here's a taste of the Democrat copium currently on display
in Chicago.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
It's not just Texas.
Speaker 15 (32:20):
It really is the United States of America, because if
they succeed in Texas, they will take this to other states.
They will take this to the county court level. They
will take this to the commissioners, the school boards, they
will take this across the length and breadth of the country.
But they'll do it if we only stand by and
watch them. But if we take us stand, we can
(32:42):
stop them.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
I didn't run for office to walk out of the Capitol.
Speaker 16 (32:46):
But I also didn't run for office to stand by
while democracy is stolen.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
So we have our sleeves, our sieves are rolled up,
and we're ready to take this fight wherever it's going
to take us.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Nothing says we're fighting for Texas like leaving and hanging
out in Chicago. Democrats are whining about jerry mandering, yet
they're the ones playing hooky from democracy itself. Abbot's message,
hid all you want, you'll lose your seats when you
get back if you go a wall on the people
of Texas.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Joining us now is.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Republican Texas State Representative Briscocaine. He serves as Chairman of
the Texas House Freedom Caucus.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
So thanks for being here.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Where can you go to find twelve Texas Democrats to
make quorum?
Speaker 16 (33:27):
Well, we actually just need six more. And by the way,
howdy from Texas, Matt.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
What it will be on? We just need six more.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Okay, that's it.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
So we're hunting them down.
Speaker 17 (33:36):
Man.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
What's their argument?
Speaker 5 (33:39):
Uh? You know their arguments?
Speaker 16 (33:40):
They would say, maybe they're they're protecting the democratic process
right by somehow they're doing that by silencing the voices
of all Texans and running from their job. To quote
Governor Abbott, Texans don't run from a fight. In fact,
you call them on Texan and I would tend to agree.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
So are the maps fair?
Speaker 16 (34:00):
Of course the maps are fair. Look, the proposed maps
correct on constitutional jerrymandering and ensure fair representation as urged
by the President and the Department of Justice. The Democrats
opposition is about clinging to power, not protecting voters.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Literally, Texans were willing to stay and get slaughtered at
the Alamo, but now they're apparently not willing to stay
for a quorum call. How are constituents reacting to seeing
their lawmakers off in Chicago?
Speaker 5 (34:26):
You're right about that.
Speaker 16 (34:26):
This is going to be a loss for them, just
as it was in the past, and three they ended
up coming back, and we did it anyways. And in
twenty twenty one when I was carrying the Election Integrity
Bill and they abandoned us and.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
Flew off the DC. When they came back, we did
it anyways.
Speaker 16 (34:40):
And now we have more Republicans, we need less of them,
and when they come back, we're going to do that
plus more. I think it's actually unified the Republican Caucus.
There was a fracture obviously so between the moderates and Conservatives,
but this time we now have a united enemy and
that's the Democrats.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Do you believe Governor Abbott should remove Democrats who don't
return for quorm.
Speaker 16 (35:01):
Call absolutely those seats to be declared vacant.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
We can leave that up.
Speaker 16 (35:05):
To juiciary and how that's done. But also we need
to be pursuing chargers. I've been waiting for a grand
jury to convene and look at them for bribery. Chargers,
They've been offered something of value in exchange for a
political function, whether that be their vote or doing an
official duty.
Speaker 5 (35:20):
Sounds like bribery to me.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Who do you think is offered something to them.
Speaker 16 (35:24):
Well leave even Bragg And the DNCS said, so you
listen to the Illinois governor.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
He's calling for them to get help and aid.
Speaker 16 (35:31):
In fact, by taking that plane ride, that's a benefit.
Is you a former elected official? Know that has to
be reported. And those five hundred dollars day fines are
happening automatically. They can't pay them with campaign funds, and
they can't pay them with their state account and have
to get it somewhere.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
And I think that snells like bribery.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Yeah, like what what does a Texas state representative make?
Speaker 5 (35:53):
Seven hundred dollars a month?
Speaker 2 (35:55):
So five hundred dollars daily fines would add up against
against that salary. Brisko Ocaine, chairman of the Freedom Caucus
in Texas, we hope you're able to find enough colleagues
to get and past your redistricting maps, and we hope
they're fared to the good folks in Texas.
Speaker 16 (36:09):
Yeah, we just need some good bounty hunters, a couple
of rednecks, go find and bring them back.
Speaker 5 (36:12):
We just need six.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
We will send you a few Florida men. We are
good at finding things. Thank you so much, mister Chairman.
Glad to have you on the program. God bless and
coming up. Sugary drinks are now under attack from the
Secretary of HHS. There's a way to ensure that you're
not paying for the bad healthcare choices of other people
and then ultimately having to pay for their care. We've
got a panel of experts next.
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Speaker 18 (38:44):
Today, we're spending four hundred and five million dollars a
day on snap and about ten percent is going to
sugary drinks. If you want to buy sugar eat soda,
you ought to be able to do that. The US
taxpayers should not pay for it, and the US taxpayers
(39:06):
should not be paying to feed kids foods. The poorest
kids in our country with foods that are going to
give them diabetes.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Sugary drinks.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
We've long wondered why American taxpayers have to pay for
poor people who don't pay taxes to buy sugary drinks
through government assistance, and then need government assistants for their
expensive medical bills as a direct result of a lifetime
of sugary drinks. I have no objection to Americans drinking
almost anything they want. We don't even criticize hyahuasca on
(39:40):
this program. But when other people are footing the bill
for things that harm the economically vulnerable, that isn't good
public policy. We stand with Secretary Kennedy to make America
healthy again. And if good health isn't a persuasive enough
reason to embrace this, it's also fantastic politics. Steve Hilton
is a Republican running for governor of California. I asked
(40:01):
how he could unlock new Republican voters. Listen to who
is central to his coalition.
Speaker 19 (40:07):
You look at what's happening really interesting development in politics,
which is the whole Maha agenda, and you've got a
huge intensity around that, especially in California. So you've got
someone like Nicole Shanahan, who's good friend of mine, who
really represents a lot of that energy, and I think
that could be part of the winning coalition in California.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
So Secretary Kennedy may be doing something that is one
good politics, two cost effective, and three actually resulting in
people living longer and better lives. How much are you
loving the new Maha era joining US now general and
forensic psychiatric physician doctor Rapolychada and co founder of Maha Girls,
(40:48):
Grace Price. So I'll start with you, doctor Chada. How
should America be reacting to Secretary Kennedy's decision to oppose
public funding for these benefits for sugary things?
Speaker 20 (41:01):
I think the first question we need to ask ourselves
is do you love your countrymen?
Speaker 14 (41:05):
So?
Speaker 20 (41:05):
I love my countrymen, and as a result, I wouldn't
want to do anything that would be harmful to them.
I would want to look at what is healthy for
the American patients. And so I think if you are
looking at long term effects of metabolic disease and illness
and you want to limit that, you would choose to
go ahead and stand behind the removal of highly processed
(41:30):
food for snap benefits.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Grace how much of the consumption of these sugary drinks
is really driven by a lack of education, And now
we see Secretary Kennedy really leading on getting better information
to folks.
Speaker 17 (41:46):
Yeah, well, that's a fantastic question, and I would say
we already know a huge amount comes from a lack
of education, because when you look at the amount of
sugary drinks that SNAP kids consume compared to those who
are not on SNAP, they actually can s forty three
percent more sugary drinks and seventy two percent of SNAP
recipients are also on Medicaid. So we are basically paying
(42:08):
for the problem and the solution, and we're not educating anyone,
which is very visible by who is hurting the most
from this, which is the children.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
And when we think about a lifetime of those inputs
that Grace just described, doctor Chado, what are the things
that we can see present later in life that then
taxpayers again would be on the hook for diabetes and
other types of ailments.
Speaker 20 (42:32):
Yeah, so eating ultra processed food causes a lot of illness,
and not just diabetes, and not just metabolic diseases, but
also emotional diseases. So I treat psychiatric patients, and I
see a lot of depression, anxiety ADHD as a result
of the additives and food as a result of eating
food that our body just doesn't recognize as food because
(42:54):
it is ultraprocessed and is nothing like the real food
that our ancestors eat.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Grace, if we were to start with a blank sheet
of paper and design the system by which hungry people
or people who needed nourishment would get the generosity of
the rest of us to meet those needs, how would
we do it to ensure that we weren't poisoning people
in the way that you and doctor Chadoff described.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
Well.
Speaker 17 (43:20):
I actually think that it starts with recognizing sugar as
America's number one public enemy. And I think that what's
really interesting is Urk Junior even mentioned a couple of
months ago, and not many people caught it that he
said that sugar is poison and most Americans still don't
really agree with this notion. But until we all get
on board with this, then we're not going to actually
(43:42):
see much change happen. Even our most trusted health institutions
like the American Heart Association clearly doesn't agree with this
statement because they actually opposed this bill in Texas when
I testified for it to try to get sugar and
candy and potato chips out of the SNAP program, which
was just absurd.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
We have to know, Grace, what possibly was the basis
of the American Heart Association backing the sugar lobby.
Speaker 17 (44:08):
You know, when I actually dug in a little bit deeper,
it was not very hard to tell that there were
kind of three different things that stood out. One that
their CEO, Nancy Brown, earned over four million in twenty
twenty three in compensation. And then also that their primary
donors include large pharmaceutical corporations, and of course their four
(44:29):
members are also General Mills and Pepsi COO and Canola
Oil dot info dot org. I'm sorry, I mean, it's
just it's right there in plain sight.
Speaker 18 (44:38):
Guys.
Speaker 17 (44:39):
This is not an organization that is prioritizing public health
over their own profit. But if we continue to disagree
with one another over whether sugar sugar, which my niece
knows is bad for you, is harmful, then we're not
going to get anywhere because the very people who would
be advocating for us.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
Are doctor Chatta.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
I've heard the argument made that what we're saying right now,
all comes from privilege that actually people who are poor
need the type of low price processed foods that are
made available through some.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
Of these programs. Destroy that argument for me.
Speaker 20 (45:17):
I will destroy it so you know there are a
lot of options for people. I have always treated people
who are low income, starting in Linwood, Compton and Watts
where I started my career, and people used to know
how to find real food in the grocery store at
a lower cost. Maybe it wasn't maybe it was canned
goods or frozen fruit or frozen vegetables and prepare a
(45:38):
lovely meal out of that. And now we've been told
this lie that you have to find something that opens
out of a package. So I tell my patients if
it comes from a package, you should be worried, so
you know, not to get too spicy. I actually disagree
that we should be telling patients what exact macronutrients to eat,
whether sugar or not, because some people's ancestors thrived that way.
(46:01):
Some people thrive with carbohydrates as long as they're not refined.
Once we refine it and we add inflammatory fats to
the mix, we create poisons. So if you're making an
apple pie from scratch, for example, and you're buying even
if it's canned or frozen ingredients to make it, you're
going to be way better off than if you're grabbing
(46:21):
hot hot chili Cheetos off the shelf with a sugary soda.
So that's my argument there. I think that a one
size fits all solution is very dangerous because we did
that with a food pyramid and it just doesn't work.
America is too genetically diverse, It has too many different
microbiomes to say one size fits all. So be just
(46:43):
a little cautious. But we can all agree that if
you alter process food and donate it in its natural state,
you're in hot trouble.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
This was supposed to.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
Be the health panel, and now you have me thinking
about apple pie and cheetos. Doctor Shota, how did you
do that to me? But I do think you make
an interest point, and what I drew from this is
that Secretary of Kennedy was able to get this concession
from the industry without a bill, without a real heavy
handed regulatory approach, and Grace, what do you think that
(47:12):
says about the political potency of what we've been building
with the MAHA movement that it didn't take the tough
hand of government. It actually were a bunch of folks
sitting around a table working towards these ends.
Speaker 17 (47:27):
Yeah, I think that it really says the heart of
the Maha movement is a lot of different kinds of
grassroots movements that have been around for a long time.
It's incredible that we have doctors and PhDs and scientists
who have been researching the harms of ultra process foods
for so long that we have actually a wealth of
(47:47):
information that we can look to and we can use
and actually pull from, and I can talk about now
and we can have conversations, and it just really shows
that I think that this next kind of generation, it
does not want to feel sick anymore, Like we're very
tired of it and we're ready for something new. And
that has brought it to the main conversation even in politics.
(48:10):
So it's on the top of people's minds. And I
think that our k Junior is just using that as
his fire right now, and.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
It is so good to see the winds piling up.
Doctor Polychada and Grace Price. Appreciate you both being on
the program and sharing your perspective.
Speaker 20 (48:23):
Thank you, thank you so much, and coming up.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
The global media is calling El Salvador's president Naibukele a
dictator as the people in El Salvador celebrate their new
opportunity to elect him forever if they want.
Speaker 1 (48:35):
Herbert Espahan is here in moments.
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Speaker 1 (50:54):
Wel Salvador.
Speaker 2 (50:55):
The mainstream media is in an uproar over the country
that went from the murder capital of the world to
the safest country in the Western hemisphere.
Speaker 21 (51:02):
Salbador just opened the pathway for President Naibukele to stay
in power indefinitely.
Speaker 10 (51:07):
For years.
Speaker 21 (51:07):
Bukell's government has made moves that critics say chip away
at democratic institutions, attack opponents, and consolidate power in his
own hands.
Speaker 22 (51:16):
Fueling concerns that it paves the way for President nai
Bukele to indefinitely stay in power. Opposition Congresswoman Marcella Vela
Toro declared that democracy in El Salvador has died. Villatorro
also accused fellow lawmakers of dealing a death blow to
the country's democratic system and compared the move to the
(51:36):
collapse of democracy in Venezuela.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
El Salvador's elected leaders changed the country's constitution to shorten
the presidential term and allow the people of El Salvador
to vote for whoever they want as the president for
as long as they want. This was an important and
critical move for a nation of wonderful people who have
known bloodshed and violence for far too long. President Booker
(52:00):
has instituted serious and effective security reforms. For that, they
call him a dictator, and his response was true and elegant.
Speaker 3 (52:10):
They've called me a dictator in any media outlet that
will print it everywhere, from the most sensational Salvadoran tabloids
to these so called prestigious international tabloids. And you know what,
I don't care if they call me a dictator.
Speaker 2 (52:29):
Joining us now salvadoran political analyst Herbert es Mahan, So, Herbert,
when this decision came out of your government to allow
any president to run for terms sequentially, how did people react?
Speaker 5 (52:43):
Hi, Matt, thank you for having me on the show.
Speaker 23 (52:45):
People reacted extremely energetic and positive about the scenario because
for the longest time, the people of El Salvador never
had a say whatsoever regarding the future of their country.
Now under President Bukeli, democras been fortified in El Salvador,
but the establishment media wants to portray him as an
(53:06):
authoritarian dictator that wants to stay indefinitely in power, which
is not the case. A dictator is someone who imposes
himself upon the people, but in the NL Salvador, if anything,
it's the people who are imposing themselves upon President Bukelly,
demanding that he run for a third, fourth and even
(53:26):
fifth term if necessary. Something that is crucial and very
important to mention is that everything President Bukele's government has
done is within the legal and constitutional framework of l Salvador. Therefore,
no constitution has been trampled upon and no laws are
being violated.
Speaker 2 (53:46):
Not the reaction from the United States Embassy was that
this was a decision for the Salvadorian people, for the
Salvadorian government, for the lawfully and legally and justly elected
representatives of the people to make. And Herbert I was
just thinking to myself, how different that statement would have
come out if you had a President Joe Biden or
(54:08):
a President Kamala Harris. But indeed the United States saying
now that we stand with President stand with El Salvador.
How important is that stamp of approval from the United
States government just to everyday folks in your country.
Speaker 23 (54:23):
It's extremely important, and it proves that El Salvador is
a democracy. El Salvador is not a dictatorship. El Salvador
is not oppressing anyone. El Salvador is liberating future generations
from the grasp of corruption and crime that El Salvador
used to be under. Thanks to President Bukell, who I
personally believe is on a God given mission, our country
(54:46):
has been freed and we the people of El Salvador,
want to see him complete this mission.
Speaker 2 (54:52):
The criticism from the international press doesn't seem to be
shaking the spirit or the vibrant of the people there
who are expecting better days ahead now that the gangs
have largely been defeated. Herbert, what do you think the
next big economic miracle is that President Bukell needs to
pull off.
Speaker 23 (55:12):
Yes, it's very important to note that the globalist establishment
media is on an ongoing campaign trying to discredit El Salvador.
They've been done doing it since the very beginning. But
it won't work because El Salvador is a project that
you can observe for yourself. You can see the positive changes.
(55:33):
These globalist media, the NGOs, etc. Whatever they say, it
doesn't matter to the people of El Salvador. A lot
of people used to ask what happens after President Bukelly. Well,
we don't have to ask that anymore because President Bukell
isn't going anywhere, and that is due to our democracy
being fortified. As you mentioned, we see how crime has
(55:55):
been taken care of. Now we see a government who
is working full time in education, opportunities, economic opportunities, in
foreign investment. This big news that we've heard recently clearly
creates an environment that will guarantee security to investors.
Speaker 2 (56:12):
We've talked so much about those good things happening in
El Salvador. But final question for you, Herbert, do you
worry about the communist socialism that's spreading in other parts
of Latin America. You know, we see Maduro engaged in
malign activity elsewhere, Honduras seems to be on the wrong path.
How do you kind of trace the trajectory of the
(56:34):
region right now?
Speaker 23 (56:36):
I think that the Bukella effect is a counter to
this communist domino effect that we saw.
Speaker 5 (56:43):
In the past.
Speaker 23 (56:45):
President Bukella's influence has certainly served to fight communism and
cultural Marxism in the region.
Speaker 5 (56:52):
I believe that Ol.
Speaker 23 (56:52):
Salvador has become a beacon of hope, not just for
Latin American countries, but for many other countries around the world.
Imagine turning what was once the murder capital of the
world into a nation that is now even safer than Sweden.
This shows President Bukel's commitment to the well being of
his people and to the fight.
Speaker 5 (57:12):
For liberty, which is very important.
Speaker 23 (57:15):
And what we're seeing is a fortified democracy, a strong
proclamation of sovereignty, and a good future not just for Alsalvador,
but for the entire region.
Speaker 1 (57:26):
Matt Herbert Esmahon, political analyst from OL Salvador. Thank you
so much for joining us and sharing your expertise.
Speaker 5 (57:31):
Thank you for having me, Matt, God bless you.
Speaker 1 (57:33):
That's all the time we have.
Speaker 2 (57:34):
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Speaker 2 (00:00):
South Carolina Congresswoman Nancy Mace has announced her campaign for governor.
She's also a key member of the House Oversight Committee,
and they dropped a banger list of who is getting
subpoena next. She's here this hour plus elements of Israel's
government now saying that the occupation of Gaza is their objective,
even if it costs the lives of hostages. We've got
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an expert panel to explain the latest in the moves
in the Holy Land, and Texas Democrats are running from
redistricting maps that favor Republicans. A Texas state lawmaker is
with us tonight to explain how the state that still
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to the Matt Gids Show.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Let's do this shaking up Washington, d C. We're breaking
the fever.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Do you haven't watch this guy on television.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
It's like a machine.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
He's great. Matt Gates as we join you this evening.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Israel is increasingly posturing to invade and occupy Gaza. Allow
me to offer a word of warning to the powerful
and distant who seek to rule over the local and entrenched.
It doesn't always turn out like you think. America believed
we would liberate Iraq. Instead, it was a bloody quagmire
for a generation. We were told the Afghans wanted us
(01:19):
to save them from the Taliban. Turns out that Taliban
is back, now stronger and more weaponized than ever. All
we got in return where cast gets draped in flags.
Here's why tonight matters. Earlier today, Israel's Prime Minister bb
Netan Yahoo met with senior security officials to hammer out
Gaza war plans, with the vision of the IDF taking
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military control of the entire territory. Bb is ready to
do this even if it means that Hamas might harm
or execute the remaining Israeli hostages in Gaza. On this program,
the father of an Israeli hostage, Uhuda Cohen, told us
that Bbe's primary concern was himself. What do you think
matters more to the Prime Minister maintaining power or getting
(02:02):
the hostages home?
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Maintaining power.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
BB's priorities get clearer by the day, and it doesn't
seem to include President Trump's desire for peace. President Trump
wants the killing to stop. He is the greatest voice
for peace in the world. Israel wants to occupy Gaza.
And if that seems distant and far away and foreign
and not important to your life, as you watch this
(02:25):
program last night, the former chief operating officer of our
nation's government, Donald Trump's former chief of staff.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Told you you'd be paying for it. We have to
pay for this. At the end of the day.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Are the American people going to be funding an Israeli
occupation in Gaza?
Speaker 6 (02:41):
Well, I mean, as you know, the appropriations, the Senate
will not be shy about asking for that on behalf
of Israel and our foreign allies there. But listen, this
gets down to not an occupation that I would necessarily recommend.
Maybe this is a way to go after Hamas directly,
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that's one thing. If it's a long occupation, somebody's gonna
pay for And I can tell you there's not an
appetite for the American people to do that.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
So do you, my fellow Americans, want to pay for
Israel to occupy Gaza. A new Gallup poll released last
week shows only thirty two percent of Americans approve of
Israel's military action in Gaza. That's the lowest mark since
Gallup began asking the question two years ago. Public support
for Israel's war in Gaza is a melting ice cube
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in America.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
No serious person who can count. We'll dispute this.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Sixty percent of Americans disapprove. It's safe to say, if
you don't like what you're seeing in Gaza, you probably
don't want to be the one paying for it. Marjorie
Taylor Green is a Republican with a clear understanding of
base sentiment. She posted a rather strident message on social
media recently. Quote I can unequivocally say that what happened
to innocent people in Israel on October seventh was horrific,
(04:00):
just as I can say on equivocally that what is
happening to innocent people and children in Gaza is horrific,
And why should America continue funding this? The secular government
of nuclear armed Israel has proven that they are beyond
capable of dealing with their enemies and are capable of
systemically cleansing them from the land. We are beyond fed
(04:21):
up with being told that we have to fix the
world's problems, pay for the world's problems, fight all the
world's wars, and many of us, even though we are Christians,
no longer want to fund and fight these wars, especially
when it leads to starving children, killing innocent people, including Christians.
Of course, we are all against radical Islamic terrorism, but
we are also against genocide.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Spicy, So, is MTG right?
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Why is the US funding Israel's effort in Gaza? Is
Mark Meadow's right that we're going to be paying the bill?
Do you want to pay for Israel to become the
neighborhood crime watch of whatever is left of Gaza City?
Are these reasonable operational questions to ask without being called
an anti Semite? Joining us now Executive director of the
(05:08):
American Conservative magazine Kurt Mills and news editor at anti
war dot Com and host of Anti War News Dave
to Camp. So, Dave, I'll start with you, what are
you tracking regarding the changing thinking within Israel about how
they're approaching the Gaza campaign?
Speaker 7 (05:24):
Well, net Yahoo, it's been clear from what we're seeing
in Israeli media and comments from net Yahoo and his
top officials that they're getting prepared for a major escalation here.
The idea is to capture the remaining territory in Gaza
that is not completely under Israeli military control, which is
only about twenty five percent of the Gaza Strip. And
right now, the idea of an escalation in Gaza at
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this point is very concerning considering the daily death toll
that we see is around one hundred people per day.
I know a lot of people might question the numbers
from Gaza's health ministry, but there's been several studies that
find they're actually likely an undercount.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
And we all see the.
Speaker 7 (06:04):
Pictures and videos coming out of Gaza every day, these
people getting killed on their way to aid sites. So
things have been really horrific lately, but they're looking to
take things to the next level, it looks like, and unfortunately,
it looks like the Trump administration and President Trump is
willing to back net Yahoo with this big escalation, even
though we see many former Israeli security officials, about six
(06:28):
hundred of them just wrote a letter to President Trump
asking him to force net and Yahoo to end this.
And the reason why they're asking Trump to end this
is because he is the person with the with the
power to get this to stop. Because Israel Is so
reliant on that US military aid, and even with these
(06:48):
starvation deaths that we're seeing in Gaza, the Trump administration
still appears ready to continue backing essentially whatever netanyak who
wants to do in Gaza, Kurt, How.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Does that occupation go?
Speaker 2 (07:01):
It seemingly is an occupation of rubble, but there are
people there who aren't leaving. It doesn't really seem like
this is a precise campaign.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
It's just a takeover. How do you see it?
Speaker 8 (07:14):
Well, it's almost certainly not going to be and is
rarely only exercise, or at least that's not the purpose
of opening up the strategy. The President early in his
term floated, you know, the Gaza Laga Lago program, where
you know, they would try to redevelop it and try
to create you know, essentially a French riviera style thing
(07:37):
on the Gaza strip. I think that's essentially a pipe
dream and something that is you know, essentially designed to
appeal to the President's vanity and get him into a
development scheme. It's very similar to the minerals deal that
was ink of Ukraine TBD on a the US taxpayer
ever sees much wealth come from that, you know, alleged minerals.
(08:00):
I think the goal here is Netna, who needs constant action.
He needs to be seen doing something. Already, he's treated
the political gains he got from the so called Twelve
Day War, and he needs a new theater, and so
that is the alleged occupation of Gaza. Then he'll call
in to Uncle Sam in Washington and try to get
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concessions there. But I think the more worrying thing, and
because we've seen this time and again, is that Netna
who actually takes his eye off the ball relatively with Moss.
The real worry is that they're going to try to
reopen the war with Iran in the autumn, as soon
as September.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
And I wanted to ask you, Dave, how do you
think the Muslim world is going to react to an
Israeli led, potentially US financed occupation of Gaza.
Speaker 7 (08:49):
Well, with the US supporting Israel to the hilt like this,
you know, there always is the risk of blowback terrorism.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
At this point.
Speaker 7 (08:57):
You know, most of Israel's opponents in the region, including Hesbala,
and you know groups that are near the Israeli border
are essentially neutered. I mean the New Syrian regime that
the al Qaeda government that has been installed in Damascus
has been very deferential toward Israel. But we're still seeing
Israel invade and bomb Syria. But you know, Iran is
(09:22):
really the big threat, the only country that can really
do some heavy blows to Israel. They've shown that they're
not interested in war unless they come under attack again.
And as Kurt says, you know, if the US doesn't
really change the policy here of just backing net Nyahu
one hundred percent, I wouldn't be surprised if we find
ourselves in another war with Iran. And there's also a
(09:45):
lot of signals here that Israel's preparing an escalation in Lebanon.
That could be the theater that net Yahoo might move
to to keep stay in this constant state of war
and escalation. Since November twenty twenty four, there's been a
so called ceasefire deal, but Israel has flagrantly violated it,
and there's signs and reports that that they're preparing and
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they've been increasing the air strikes, and you know, so
this is all about staying in that constant state of
war for Netnaho to stay in power, to get more
political support.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Kurt, how is public sentiment changing in the United States?
On this question, it seems I use the phrase like
a melting ice cube is how I view the support.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
For Israel right now. It's increasingly unpopular on the right
on the left.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Where is the political constituency for the United States funding
Israel's war in Gossam?
Speaker 8 (10:38):
I think the political constituency is two fold. There's an
League constituency, and then there's an older electorate in the
Republican Party that is the sort of Bush wing more
differential Taho differential might be underplaying. And I mean you
see the Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson. He seems
to almost envy Israel and envy Nenya, who know his country.
(11:02):
So it's pretty extraordinary. But I think it's a limited constituency,
a powerful one, but a narrow one. Polling has come
out on Nantyahuo's approval in the country and it is
it's sub forty percent. It's a disaster. And I think
the reality is for the base voter in both parties,
they have now seen if you're a base Democratic voter,
(11:22):
you saw an administration arguably toppled.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
Over Israel protests.
Speaker 8 (11:26):
And if you're a base voter in the Republican Party
or in the Maga movement. You're now seeing an administration
distracted and submerged into this war. It's very redolent of Vietnam.
The war was a Democrat war, and Nixon ran in
sixty eight on getting out and Trump for all the comparisons,
Nixon still has an opportunity.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
To do that.
Speaker 8 (11:47):
But you know, if we're still talking about Israel, Gaza,
ron come Christmas, putting aside Russia Ukraine, people have already
forgotten President Biden. Right, these are going to become unfortuate
the administration's wars, and that's the liability for the right, Dave, is.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
There a lot of popular sentiment for an occupation of
Gaza within Israel? Or as this goes on further, is
there a risk that Netnyahu's coalition could break over this
as tragically a lot of IDF personnel would die in
such an occupation.
Speaker 7 (12:22):
M there's certainly support for the idea for an occupation
among certain elements of the Netnyahu government, including Bezilosmotrich and
Itamar Bengavir and the settlers, which do not represent a
majority of Israeli.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Yeah, that's the fall right I'm talking about in the
broader body politic in Israel.
Speaker 7 (12:43):
It appears that most people in Israel right now want
a deal because they know the escalation will lead to
the deaths of the captives, could lead to the deaths
of the captives in Israel. In fact, the report in
the Times of Israel today after Netnya who held his meeting,
it said that Netya Who's ready to order the full occupation,
even if it may lead to the killing of the
(13:05):
hostages in Gaza. So the majority of Israelis I believe,
want a deal. They know that that's the way to
get them out. But you do have this faction, you know,
what we call the far right. They're not as fringe
as people like to believe anymore. They hold significant political
power and they're you know, calling for settlement and occupation
(13:28):
of Gaza. And there's also been indications that Netnyah who
might actually start annexing territory in Gaza. And if that
starts to happen, this is not going to end without
you know, genocide, full on genocide and ethnic cleansing of
the Palestinian population. If Israel actually starts officially declaring you
know that this territory is now part of Israel, because
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that means they're never giving it up.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Kurt, how are the countries that are the signatories to
the Abraham Accords feeling right now? Like if you're the
UAE or some of these other Muslim country ties, certainly
within your own body politic, Israel's actions and Gaza have
to be growing increasingly unpopular. Is there going to be
a pressure from the citizenry of some of these Muslim
countries to have their leadership taking a more adversarial tone
(14:16):
toward Israel?
Speaker 8 (14:18):
Yeah, I mean, I think the Abraham of Cords exists,
but it's been substantially weakened. I mean, it is basically
turning into as powerful as the Organization of American States.
It meets, it has a function, other countries may join it,
but the real teeth, the real purpose of the thing,
which was comedy and the end of war in the
Middle East and an Israeli led block in the region,
(14:41):
I think is not happening. There's been much of ink
spilled on alleged Israeli hegemony and I've given this elsewhere,
but my sense of the region, and I've traveled there
twice in the last two months is that Israel is
effectively an air force base. It can torment any of
its enemies, it can call in favors with Uncle Sam
and DC. But the idea that it has any popular
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legitimacy in the region of anything, it's falling apart.
Speaker 9 (15:07):
And Israel's politics itself are so unstable. Net Yah, who
can't just rest on his laurels. He actually got what
he wanted. He's been trying to get the US to
bomb Ran for thirty years and he got it. And
the honeymoon lasted.
Speaker 8 (15:23):
Seven weeks, And I mean, there really is And to
just go back to the previous topic, there really is
no limit to what net Yahoo won't consider. I mean,
frankly not to say that Hamas has acted, Restraint has acted,
restraint has been restrained in this war. But the reality is,
when Israel broke the truce or has broke the ceasefire
(15:43):
in March, a lot of people expected Hamas to execute
the hostages. And so net Nyahu is just ineluctibly, inevitably
going down this road where he has shown clear a
cavalier approach towards the lives of the hostages and the
hostage is families. I don't speak for all of them,
but the preponders of them have been very clear. They're
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anti this government, they want a deal, they want their
family home.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Yeah, we've heard from some of them on this program.
Kurt Mills, executive director of the American Conservative and Dave DeCamp,
the editor a news editor at anti war dot com
and anti War News. Thank you both for coming on
the program and sharing the latest. Thanks Matt and coming up.
Congress Womanute Nancy Mace is running for governor of South Carolina.
She's also a key member of the House Oversight Committee,
where there's big news today about requests to interview the
(16:30):
Clinton's comy Brennan Clapper a whole.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Deep State cabal. Nancy Mace with us after a quick break.
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Speaker 11 (18:54):
South Carolina is tired of politicians who smile for the cameras,
lie to your face, and then vanish when it's time
to lead.
Speaker 12 (19:03):
I'm not one of them.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
I'm running for governor because South Carolina doesn't need another
empty suit. The days of leving criminals walk the streets
of South Carolina, not being charged, not being indicted, not
being prosecuted. The days of treating victims like criminals and
criminals like victims are over.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
That was Nancy Mace of South Carolina launching her coubernatorial bid.
South Carolina is a critically important state politically, it plays
a key role in determining the American presidency. It will
be the first Democratic primary in twenty twenty eight and
the first in the South for Republicans. The Civil War
started in South Carolina, and the race for governor in
the state maybe a civil war within the Republican primary
(19:45):
and the Republican Party at large. We heard Budget Hawk
Representative Ralph Norman make his case to lead the Palmeto
State on our program.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
South Carolina is at a crossroads.
Speaker 13 (19:56):
We've got a lot of decisions that we will have
to make and uh, you know, whether it's the dilapidated roads,
whether it's the tort reform that we've got to deal with,
whether selection to judges, all that is going to be
made by somebody that's willing to, as you did, uh press,
press the issue and and make things happen.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
I will do that now.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Congresswoman Mace brings a fighting spirit, a moderate record on
some issues, and a real understanding of stagecraft.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
To the race.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Well, of course.
Speaker 12 (20:34):
You're always invited in. And by the way, I voted
for gay marriage twice to do so. I'm just saying
it has to do everything.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
To do with you.
Speaker 12 (20:45):
I do absolutely.
Speaker 14 (20:46):
I'm going to be sharing some of the imagery that
Patrick Bryant, that guy right there, I took of myself
and other women without our knowledge, without our permission, without
our consent, naked bodies, women's ledge spread apart different genital areas.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Representative mass On.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
The House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer just announced today
that he's issued subpoenas for a host of high profile
individuals to appear for depositions in the coming months. That
list includes former President Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, James Comy,
Robert Muller, former Attorney General Merrick Garland, Bill Barr, Jeff Sessions,
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Alberto Gonzalez, Loretta Lynch, Eric Holder. Just a lot of
really bad people joining us now. The stellar congresswoman from
South Carolina, she's running for governor. She's a key member
of the House Oversight Committee. Let's start on Capitol Hill.
Congresswoman Chairman Comer just released this very extensive witness list
with some big names like the Clintons. What is the
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chairman told you about his plan in this investigation? What's
it about and what tools will we use to bring
in these witnesses.
Speaker 11 (21:55):
Well, the first step in any investigation is issuing subpoenas,
and our committee did that today and there is a
long list of about eleven individuals who are going to
be subpoenaed.
Speaker 12 (22:04):
Over this issue.
Speaker 11 (22:06):
And I voted to release Epstein files, by the way,
and am part of have co sponsored the.
Speaker 12 (22:12):
Bill to do that as well.
Speaker 11 (22:13):
And you know, we want to make sure that the
American people have answers, and we're going to be asking
a lot of tough questions when these people come before
a committed to be deposed and hopefully testify.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Yeah, I'm just wondering what are you going to ask
Bill Clinton if he shows up?
Speaker 12 (22:27):
Gosh, where do I start? You know, Bill Clinton? I
want to know how many times he was on the plane.
Speaker 11 (22:32):
President Trump has said he was at Epstein Island twenty
eight times, right, or flew on the plane twenty eight times?
And so that'll be my first question more than likely,
how did you enjoy Epstein Island?
Speaker 2 (22:44):
You're running for governor. I'm eager to chat with you
about that campaign. Obviously, South Carolina very important state politically.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
What do you think makes you stand out in a
crowded race.
Speaker 11 (22:55):
Well, in this race, we're ahead in every poll. No
one will work Carter for South Carolina. We have a
huge opportunity to have an America first governor, not just
in South Carolina, but in every state across the nation.
I'm working really hard, both on fundraising and on policy.
I unveiled an eight point plan yesterday. Even though I'm
in a bright red state, our state wide leaders turned
a blind eye to sanctuary policies. We had a rogue sheriff,
(23:17):
sanctuary sheriff last year that was letting illegals out that
were rapists, they were murderers and pedophiles, and there was
only one person that stood up, and that was me,
and I got her.
Speaker 12 (23:27):
Unelected in November.
Speaker 11 (23:28):
And I don't understand why this is happening. We have
the highest state income tax in the Southeast. We're not
competing with Florida, your home state. You guys have zero
state income tax. We're not competing with Georgia or North Carolina.
I unveiled a five year plan to cut it down
to zero, and I look forward to unveiling all of
our plans for education, healthcare, all of those things.
Speaker 12 (23:50):
We're doing it now, we're doing it live.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
You've represented a purple district in Congress, and if someone
were asked about your ideology, I don't know that there
would be like a one or two two word phrase
that would really capture it, other than maybe you're a Maverick.
What would you describe to people maybe who aren't familiar
with some of your policy positions, about what it means
to be a Nancy Mace Republican.
Speaker 11 (24:11):
Well, it means to be a fiscal conservative but also
have and be an independent voice. As you know, Matt,
we fought some big fights on the hill, particularly when
it came to the debt ceiling.
Speaker 12 (24:20):
When it came to spending.
Speaker 11 (24:21):
I blame both Republicans and Democrats for the thirty seven
trillion dollars of debt and counting that we have in
this country. And so I've held both sides accountable, particularly
when it comes to the power of the purse and
how much spending we have because we're on this cliff,
and I think it's important that we as Conservatives call
out members of our own party, and I've been doing
that every step of the way since I got elected
(24:42):
to Congress.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
The spending in South Carolina from state government has at
times gone to major corporations to bring manufacturing to the state,
and the state has become a manufacturing powerhouse. But should
state government be using taxpayer funds to buy jobs or
sports teams?
Speaker 11 (25:00):
Even I mean, we have invested in some really you know,
cronyism here in South Carolina. We have a budget that's
just over forty billion dollars pre COVID in twenty nineteen,
Matt the earmarks and the state budget were around thirty million. Well,
yet last year it was about seven hundred million. So
how does that happen in that short period of time?
And so in my plan to reign back and turn
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the taxes down to zero over five years. Is to
reign in that spending in our general fund, which is
about one third of the budget. Is to cap that,
limit that and give people a permanent rebate on their
taxes to cut it down to zero. We have a
lot of reckless spending that we can we can get
under control if we really address it in a smart, sensible,
common sense way, just like Donald Trump would.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Well, one of the ways that state spending kind of
mirrors with the work you've been doing in Congress is
on healthcare spending. There were all kind of false allegations
against Republicans that we were trying to hurt Medicare or Medicaid,
when the reality is a lot of people in Washington
wanted to send the decisions to the states around.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
The Medicaid program.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
So if you could apply, if you were governor of
South Carolina, and you could apply for any Medicaid waiver.
And I know you've got a very good relationship with
President Trump, He's definitely going to take your call. What
is it that you're going to do to design a
cow or a South Carolina specific plan on Medicaid?
Speaker 11 (26:20):
Well, Number one, I was at a little coffee shop
this morning in Charleston, South Carolina, called the Beary Patch,
And I had a woman who came up to me
in tears and she was disabled, lives in a nursing home,
literally crying because she's been told that Donald Trump's going
to take her Medicaid away and that she.
Speaker 12 (26:36):
Won't be able to live in this home.
Speaker 11 (26:37):
And I told her it's very clear she was disabled,
that that was not going to happen when I'm governor,
not on my watch, and that we would be there
for every step of the way. And Donald Trump wasn't
taking away her Medicaid.
Speaker 12 (26:48):
But however, if.
Speaker 11 (26:49):
You're an able bodied person and you can work, you're
going to get a job, because you want every citizen
who can be a productive member of society go and
get a job and work and those benefits. But for
those who are disabled who need that kind of care,
you're going to have it under Donald Trump's presidency and
under my leadership as governor.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
At times, you've come under attack from pro life groups
because your views on when life begins and those questions
tend to drift toward the middle. If you were a
governor of South Carolina and someone sents you legislation to
require a woman to have an ultrasound and to view
that ultrasound before having an abortion.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Would you sign that bill or view to it?
Speaker 5 (27:28):
Oh?
Speaker 12 (27:28):
One hundred percent. And I believe I've even co sponsored.
Speaker 11 (27:30):
Legislation or written legislation to that effect. Life begins at conception,
when you hear that heartbeat, when you see that baby on.
Speaker 12 (27:38):
The monitor, It's not a blob. That is a real,
live human being.
Speaker 11 (27:42):
And I think it would help some women make decisions
that are different and give life back. I've also authored
a bill that would create a website called life dot
gov and would show parents and show women there's a
way if you want to give up your baby for
adoption and don't want to abort that child, that there's
a way medical care, lead fees, adoption services, etc. And
(28:03):
when it comes to abortion, I share Donald Trump's policies
on that as well. And we want to show compassion
to women who need it desperately.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
So, Nancy Mace, she is a Maverick. There will not
be another Nancy Mace in Washington after this governor's race.
She will either be leading her wonderful state of South
Carolina or we'll be missing her in Congress.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
So one way or the other.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
We wish you safety on the trail and we hope
you'll check back in with us as your campaign progresses.
Speaker 12 (28:27):
Hi, praise, thank you, Matt's good to see you.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Take care and coming up. In Texas, there really is
a hooplag going on. Democrats have left the state to
deprive the lawmaking body of a quorum necessary to pass
a very controversial redistricting plan. That plan would give more
power to the Republican Congressional delegation in Washington. We'll talk
about it with Representative Briscoe Caine from the Lone Star
(28:51):
Republic after quick break.
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We head to Texas, where in the lone Star Republic
Governor Greg Abbot is unleashing redistricting hell fire on over
fifty House Democrats who fled to Chicago on Sunday, breaking
quorum to torpedo a redistricting map that could hand Republicans
five more congressional seats. Now he's vowing arrests, five hundred
dollars daily fines, and even vacating their seats if they
(31:32):
don't scurry back by Monday's vote. This is an Abbot's
first rodeo. He's channeling that no nonsense Texas s grit,
threatening civil arrests via the Department of Public Safety, and
slamming these absconders for what he calls their potential felonies
in their fundraising schemes. Should funding an escape be a
legal thing for elected officials to be able to do.
(31:54):
With the Texas House packing eighty eight Republicans and just
sixty two Democrats, quorum still demands one hundred members. These
runaways include vocal ones Select Representatives John Bucy and Johnson
and James tall Rico. They have ground the action in Austin.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
To a halt.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Here's a taste of the Democrat copium currently on display
in Chicago.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
It's not just Texas.
Speaker 15 (32:20):
It really is the United States of America, because if
they succeed in Texas, they will take this to other states.
They will take this to the county court level. They
will take this to the commissioners, the school boards, they
will take this across the length and breadth of the country.
But they'll do it if we only stand by and
watch them. But if we take us stand, we can
(32:42):
stop them.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
I didn't run for office to walk out of the Capitol.
Speaker 16 (32:46):
But I also didn't run for office to stand by
while democracy is stolen.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
So we have our sleeves, our sieves are rolled up,
and we're ready to take this fight wherever it's going
to take us.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Nothing says we're fighting for Texas like leaving and hanging
out in Chicago. Democrats are whining about jerry mandering, yet
they're the ones playing hooky from democracy itself. Abbot's message,
hid all you want, you'll lose your seats when you
get back if you go a wall on the people
of Texas.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Joining us now is.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Republican Texas State Representative Briscocaine. He serves as Chairman of
the Texas House Freedom Caucus.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
So thanks for being here.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Where can you go to find twelve Texas Democrats to
make quorum?
Speaker 16 (33:27):
Well, we actually just need six more. And by the way,
howdy from Texas, Matt.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
What it will be on? We just need six more.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Okay, that's it.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
So we're hunting them down.
Speaker 17 (33:36):
Man.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
What's their argument?
Speaker 5 (33:39):
Uh? You know their arguments?
Speaker 16 (33:40):
They would say, maybe they're they're protecting the democratic process
right by somehow they're doing that by silencing the voices
of all Texans and running from their job. To quote
Governor Abbott, Texans don't run from a fight. In fact,
you call them on Texan and I would tend to agree.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
So are the maps fair?
Speaker 16 (34:00):
Of course the maps are fair. Look, the proposed maps
correct on constitutional jerrymandering and ensure fair representation as urged
by the President and the Department of Justice. The Democrats
opposition is about clinging to power, not protecting voters.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Literally, Texans were willing to stay and get slaughtered at
the Alamo, but now they're apparently not willing to stay
for a quorum call. How are constituents reacting to seeing
their lawmakers off in Chicago?
Speaker 5 (34:26):
You're right about that.
Speaker 16 (34:26):
This is going to be a loss for them, just
as it was in the past, and three they ended
up coming back, and we did it anyways. And in
twenty twenty one when I was carrying the Election Integrity
Bill and they abandoned us and.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
Flew off the DC. When they came back, we did
it anyways.
Speaker 16 (34:40):
And now we have more Republicans, we need less of them,
and when they come back, we're going to do that
plus more. I think it's actually unified the Republican Caucus.
There was a fracture obviously so between the moderates and Conservatives,
but this time we now have a united enemy and
that's the Democrats.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Do you believe Governor Abbott should remove Democrats who don't
return for quorm.
Speaker 16 (35:01):
Call absolutely those seats to be declared vacant.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
We can leave that up.
Speaker 16 (35:05):
To juiciary and how that's done. But also we need
to be pursuing chargers. I've been waiting for a grand
jury to convene and look at them for bribery. Chargers,
They've been offered something of value in exchange for a
political function, whether that be their vote or doing an
official duty.
Speaker 5 (35:20):
Sounds like bribery to me.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Who do you think is offered something to them.
Speaker 16 (35:24):
Well leave even Bragg And the DNCS said, so you
listen to the Illinois governor.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
He's calling for them to get help and aid.
Speaker 16 (35:31):
In fact, by taking that plane ride, that's a benefit.
Is you a former elected official? Know that has to
be reported. And those five hundred dollars day fines are
happening automatically. They can't pay them with campaign funds, and
they can't pay them with their state account and have
to get it somewhere.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
And I think that snells like bribery.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Yeah, like what what does a Texas state representative make?
Speaker 5 (35:53):
Seven hundred dollars a month?
Speaker 2 (35:55):
So five hundred dollars daily fines would add up against
against that salary. Brisko Ocaine, chairman of the Freedom Caucus
in Texas, we hope you're able to find enough colleagues
to get and past your redistricting maps, and we hope
they're fared to the good folks in Texas.
Speaker 16 (36:09):
Yeah, we just need some good bounty hunters, a couple
of rednecks, go find and bring them back.
Speaker 5 (36:12):
We just need six.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
We will send you a few Florida men. We are
good at finding things. Thank you so much, mister Chairman.
Glad to have you on the program. God bless and
coming up. Sugary drinks are now under attack from the
Secretary of HHS. There's a way to ensure that you're
not paying for the bad healthcare choices of other people
and then ultimately having to pay for their care. We've
got a panel of experts next.
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Speaker 18 (38:44):
Today, we're spending four hundred and five million dollars a
day on snap and about ten percent is going to
sugary drinks. If you want to buy sugar eat soda,
you ought to be able to do that. The US
taxpayers should not pay for it, and the US taxpayers
(39:06):
should not be paying to feed kids foods. The poorest
kids in our country with foods that are going to
give them diabetes.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Sugary drinks.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
We've long wondered why American taxpayers have to pay for
poor people who don't pay taxes to buy sugary drinks
through government assistance, and then need government assistants for their
expensive medical bills as a direct result of a lifetime
of sugary drinks. I have no objection to Americans drinking
almost anything they want. We don't even criticize hyahuasca on
(39:40):
this program. But when other people are footing the bill
for things that harm the economically vulnerable, that isn't good
public policy. We stand with Secretary Kennedy to make America
healthy again. And if good health isn't a persuasive enough
reason to embrace this, it's also fantastic politics. Steve Hilton
is a Republican running for governor of California. I asked
(40:01):
how he could unlock new Republican voters. Listen to who
is central to his coalition.
Speaker 19 (40:07):
You look at what's happening really interesting development in politics,
which is the whole Maha agenda, and you've got a
huge intensity around that, especially in California. So you've got
someone like Nicole Shanahan, who's good friend of mine, who
really represents a lot of that energy, and I think
that could be part of the winning coalition in California.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
So Secretary Kennedy may be doing something that is one
good politics, two cost effective, and three actually resulting in
people living longer and better lives. How much are you
loving the new Maha era joining US now general and
forensic psychiatric physician doctor Rapolychada and co founder of Maha Girls,
(40:48):
Grace Price. So I'll start with you, doctor Chada. How
should America be reacting to Secretary Kennedy's decision to oppose
public funding for these benefits for sugary things?
Speaker 20 (41:01):
I think the first question we need to ask ourselves
is do you love your countrymen?
Speaker 14 (41:05):
So?
Speaker 20 (41:05):
I love my countrymen, and as a result, I wouldn't
want to do anything that would be harmful to them.
I would want to look at what is healthy for
the American patients. And so I think if you are
looking at long term effects of metabolic disease and illness
and you want to limit that, you would choose to
go ahead and stand behind the removal of highly processed
(41:30):
food for snap benefits.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Grace how much of the consumption of these sugary drinks
is really driven by a lack of education, And now
we see Secretary Kennedy really leading on getting better information
to folks.
Speaker 17 (41:46):
Yeah, well, that's a fantastic question, and I would say
we already know a huge amount comes from a lack
of education, because when you look at the amount of
sugary drinks that SNAP kids consume compared to those who
are not on SNAP, they actually can s forty three
percent more sugary drinks and seventy two percent of SNAP
recipients are also on Medicaid. So we are basically paying
(42:08):
for the problem and the solution, and we're not educating anyone,
which is very visible by who is hurting the most
from this, which is the children.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
And when we think about a lifetime of those inputs
that Grace just described, doctor Chado, what are the things
that we can see present later in life that then
taxpayers again would be on the hook for diabetes and
other types of ailments.
Speaker 20 (42:32):
Yeah, so eating ultra processed food causes a lot of illness,
and not just diabetes, and not just metabolic diseases, but
also emotional diseases. So I treat psychiatric patients, and I
see a lot of depression, anxiety ADHD as a result
of the additives and food as a result of eating
food that our body just doesn't recognize as food because
(42:54):
it is ultraprocessed and is nothing like the real food
that our ancestors eat.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Grace, if we were to start with a blank sheet
of paper and design the system by which hungry people
or people who needed nourishment would get the generosity of
the rest of us to meet those needs, how would
we do it to ensure that we weren't poisoning people
in the way that you and doctor Chadoff described.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
Well.
Speaker 17 (43:20):
I actually think that it starts with recognizing sugar as
America's number one public enemy. And I think that what's
really interesting is Urk Junior even mentioned a couple of
months ago, and not many people caught it that he
said that sugar is poison and most Americans still don't
really agree with this notion. But until we all get
on board with this, then we're not going to actually
(43:42):
see much change happen. Even our most trusted health institutions
like the American Heart Association clearly doesn't agree with this
statement because they actually opposed this bill in Texas when
I testified for it to try to get sugar and
candy and potato chips out of the SNAP program, which
was just absurd.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
We have to know, Grace, what possibly was the basis
of the American Heart Association backing the sugar lobby.
Speaker 17 (44:08):
You know, when I actually dug in a little bit deeper,
it was not very hard to tell that there were
kind of three different things that stood out. One that
their CEO, Nancy Brown, earned over four million in twenty
twenty three in compensation. And then also that their primary
donors include large pharmaceutical corporations, and of course their four
(44:29):
members are also General Mills and Pepsi COO and Canola
Oil dot info dot org. I'm sorry, I mean, it's
just it's right there in plain sight.
Speaker 18 (44:38):
Guys.
Speaker 17 (44:39):
This is not an organization that is prioritizing public health
over their own profit. But if we continue to disagree
with one another over whether sugar sugar, which my niece
knows is bad for you, is harmful, then we're not
going to get anywhere because the very people who would
be advocating for us.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
Are doctor Chatta.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
I've heard the argument made that what we're saying right now,
all comes from privilege that actually people who are poor
need the type of low price processed foods that are
made available through some.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
Of these programs. Destroy that argument for me.
Speaker 20 (45:17):
I will destroy it so you know there are a
lot of options for people. I have always treated people
who are low income, starting in Linwood, Compton and Watts
where I started my career, and people used to know
how to find real food in the grocery store at
a lower cost. Maybe it wasn't maybe it was canned
goods or frozen fruit or frozen vegetables and prepare a
(45:38):
lovely meal out of that. And now we've been told
this lie that you have to find something that opens
out of a package. So I tell my patients if
it comes from a package, you should be worried, so
you know, not to get too spicy. I actually disagree
that we should be telling patients what exact macronutrients to eat,
whether sugar or not, because some people's ancestors thrived that way.
(46:01):
Some people thrive with carbohydrates as long as they're not refined.
Once we refine it and we add inflammatory fats to
the mix, we create poisons. So if you're making an
apple pie from scratch, for example, and you're buying even
if it's canned or frozen ingredients to make it, you're
going to be way better off than if you're grabbing
(46:21):
hot hot chili Cheetos off the shelf with a sugary soda.
So that's my argument there. I think that a one
size fits all solution is very dangerous because we did
that with a food pyramid and it just doesn't work.
America is too genetically diverse, It has too many different
microbiomes to say one size fits all. So be just
(46:43):
a little cautious. But we can all agree that if
you alter process food and donate it in its natural state,
you're in hot trouble.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
This was supposed to.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
Be the health panel, and now you have me thinking
about apple pie and cheetos. Doctor Shota, how did you
do that to me? But I do think you make
an interest point, and what I drew from this is
that Secretary of Kennedy was able to get this concession
from the industry without a bill, without a real heavy
handed regulatory approach, and Grace, what do you think that
(47:12):
says about the political potency of what we've been building
with the MAHA movement that it didn't take the tough
hand of government. It actually were a bunch of folks
sitting around a table working towards these ends.
Speaker 17 (47:27):
Yeah, I think that it really says the heart of
the Maha movement is a lot of different kinds of
grassroots movements that have been around for a long time.
It's incredible that we have doctors and PhDs and scientists
who have been researching the harms of ultra process foods
for so long that we have actually a wealth of
(47:47):
information that we can look to and we can use
and actually pull from, and I can talk about now
and we can have conversations, and it just really shows
that I think that this next kind of generation, it
does not want to feel sick anymore, Like we're very
tired of it and we're ready for something new. And
that has brought it to the main conversation even in politics.
(48:10):
So it's on the top of people's minds. And I
think that our k Junior is just using that as
his fire right now, and.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
It is so good to see the winds piling up.
Doctor Polychada and Grace Price. Appreciate you both being on
the program and sharing your perspective.
Speaker 20 (48:23):
Thank you, thank you so much, and coming up.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
The global media is calling El Salvador's president Naibukele a
dictator as the people in El Salvador celebrate their new
opportunity to elect him forever if they want.
Speaker 1 (48:35):
Herbert Espahan is here in moments.
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Speaker 1 (50:54):
Wel Salvador.
Speaker 2 (50:55):
The mainstream media is in an uproar over the country
that went from the murder capital of the world to
the safest country in the Western hemisphere.
Speaker 21 (51:02):
Salbador just opened the pathway for President Naibukele to stay
in power indefinitely.
Speaker 10 (51:07):
For years.
Speaker 21 (51:07):
Bukell's government has made moves that critics say chip away
at democratic institutions, attack opponents, and consolidate power in his
own hands.
Speaker 22 (51:16):
Fueling concerns that it paves the way for President nai
Bukele to indefinitely stay in power. Opposition Congresswoman Marcella Vela
Toro declared that democracy in El Salvador has died. Villatorro
also accused fellow lawmakers of dealing a death blow to
the country's democratic system and compared the move to the
(51:36):
collapse of democracy in Venezuela.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
El Salvador's elected leaders changed the country's constitution to shorten
the presidential term and allow the people of El Salvador
to vote for whoever they want as the president for
as long as they want. This was an important and
critical move for a nation of wonderful people who have
known bloodshed and violence for far too long. President Booker
(52:00):
has instituted serious and effective security reforms. For that, they
call him a dictator, and his response was true and elegant.
Speaker 3 (52:10):
They've called me a dictator in any media outlet that
will print it everywhere, from the most sensational Salvadoran tabloids
to these so called prestigious international tabloids. And you know what,
I don't care if they call me a dictator.
Speaker 2 (52:29):
Joining us now salvadoran political analyst Herbert es Mahan, So, Herbert,
when this decision came out of your government to allow
any president to run for terms sequentially, how did people react?
Speaker 5 (52:43):
Hi, Matt, thank you for having me on the show.
Speaker 23 (52:45):
People reacted extremely energetic and positive about the scenario because
for the longest time, the people of El Salvador never
had a say whatsoever regarding the future of their country.
Now under President Bukeli, democras been fortified in El Salvador,
but the establishment media wants to portray him as an
(53:06):
authoritarian dictator that wants to stay indefinitely in power, which
is not the case. A dictator is someone who imposes
himself upon the people, but in the NL Salvador, if anything,
it's the people who are imposing themselves upon President Bukelly,
demanding that he run for a third, fourth and even
(53:26):
fifth term if necessary. Something that is crucial and very
important to mention is that everything President Bukele's government has
done is within the legal and constitutional framework of l Salvador. Therefore,
no constitution has been trampled upon and no laws are
being violated.
Speaker 2 (53:46):
Not the reaction from the United States Embassy was that
this was a decision for the Salvadorian people, for the
Salvadorian government, for the lawfully and legally and justly elected
representatives of the people to make. And Herbert I was
just thinking to myself, how different that statement would have
come out if you had a President Joe Biden or
(54:08):
a President Kamala Harris. But indeed the United States saying
now that we stand with President stand with El Salvador.
How important is that stamp of approval from the United
States government just to everyday folks in your country.
Speaker 23 (54:23):
It's extremely important, and it proves that El Salvador is
a democracy. El Salvador is not a dictatorship. El Salvador
is not oppressing anyone. El Salvador is liberating future generations
from the grasp of corruption and crime that El Salvador
used to be under. Thanks to President Bukell, who I
personally believe is on a God given mission, our country
(54:46):
has been freed and we the people of El Salvador,
want to see him complete this mission.
Speaker 2 (54:52):
The criticism from the international press doesn't seem to be
shaking the spirit or the vibrant of the people there
who are expecting better days ahead now that the gangs
have largely been defeated. Herbert, what do you think the
next big economic miracle is that President Bukell needs to
pull off.
Speaker 23 (55:12):
Yes, it's very important to note that the globalist establishment
media is on an ongoing campaign trying to discredit El Salvador.
They've been done doing it since the very beginning. But
it won't work because El Salvador is a project that
you can observe for yourself. You can see the positive changes.
(55:33):
These globalist media, the NGOs, etc. Whatever they say, it
doesn't matter to the people of El Salvador. A lot
of people used to ask what happens after President Bukelly. Well,
we don't have to ask that anymore because President Bukell
isn't going anywhere, and that is due to our democracy
being fortified. As you mentioned, we see how crime has
(55:55):
been taken care of. Now we see a government who
is working full time in education, opportunities, economic opportunities, in
foreign investment. This big news that we've heard recently clearly
creates an environment that will guarantee security to investors.
Speaker 2 (56:12):
We've talked so much about those good things happening in
El Salvador. But final question for you, Herbert, do you
worry about the communist socialism that's spreading in other parts
of Latin America. You know, we see Maduro engaged in
malign activity elsewhere, Honduras seems to be on the wrong path.
How do you kind of trace the trajectory of the
(56:34):
region right now?
Speaker 23 (56:36):
I think that the Bukella effect is a counter to
this communist domino effect that we saw.
Speaker 5 (56:43):
In the past.
Speaker 23 (56:45):
President Bukella's influence has certainly served to fight communism and
cultural Marxism in the region.
Speaker 5 (56:52):
I believe that Ol.
Speaker 23 (56:52):
Salvador has become a beacon of hope, not just for
Latin American countries, but for many other countries around the world.
Imagine turning what was once the murder capital of the
world into a nation that is now even safer than Sweden.
This shows President Bukel's commitment to the well being of
his people and to the fight.
Speaker 5 (57:12):
For liberty, which is very important.
Speaker 23 (57:15):
And what we're seeing is a fortified democracy, a strong
proclamation of sovereignty, and a good future not just for Alsalvador,
but for the entire region.
Speaker 1 (57:26):
Matt Herbert Esmahon, political analyst from OL Salvador. Thank you
so much for joining us and sharing your expertise.
Speaker 5 (57:31):
Thank you for having me, Matt, God bless you.
Speaker 1 (57:33):
That's all the time we have.
Speaker 2 (57:34):
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