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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We're going in. That's President Trump's message to Chicago.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
We've got a former Illinois lawmaker and Republican nominee for Governor,
Darren Bailey with US plus Texas Congressman Chip Roy is
on a rampage against congressional stock trading. Our conversation, you'll
see in moments names, names regarding who is.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Standing in the way.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
And we've got breaking news on the secret Service capability
around President Trump. Arizona Congressman and former Navy Seal Eli
Crane is here to go through it with US and
Tennessee Congressman Andy Ogles is backing Trump's anti crime push
in DC.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
It's all next on the Matck Gates Show. Let's do
this shaking up Washington, d C. We're breaking the fever.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Do you haven't watch this guy on television.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
It's like a machine. He's great, Matt Gates.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
You ever notice how every Democrat mayor brags about their
city being a world class hub of culture and progress.
Then they stop mid sentence because you hear the police
sirens drowning them out in the background. That's Chicago, the
windy City, the city of broad shoulders, deep dish, pizza
and crime. Statistics that look like a war report from Fallujah.
Americans are dying in Chicago, and it seems President Trump
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is going to do something about it.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Well, we're going in.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
I didn't say when we're going in.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Just last month, four were killed outside a nightclub at
an album release party.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Four dead, fourteen wounded.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Victims ranged from a young stylist to a young father.
These weren't numbers, they were lives that were taken away, shattered, destroyed.
In another lethal moment, on the CTA Blue Line back
in September of last year, a shooter mowed down four
sleeping strangers on the train. You saw victims ranging from
the age of twenty eight to sixty four.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
And they were chosen just by chance. What a sad
and tragic scenario.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
What a completely unnecessary loss of life. Now President Trump
takes one look and says we're going in. Democrats are
clutching their pearls. Meanwhile, regular Chicagoans are finally thinking, hey,
if somebody cares and notices that we are living in
a shooting gallery. Chicago had almost six hundred murders last year,
six hundred last year.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
By contrast, El.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Salvador has not had one murder in a thousand days.
Democrats act like the National Guard showing up as some
sort of invasion. Governor Pritzker of Illinois called it a
reality game show.
Speaker 6 (02:22):
I refuse to play a reality game show with Donald
Trump again.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
First of all, he wouldn't even be the best Illinois
governor to play a reality game show with Donald Trump.
That's obviously blugoyevitch. But look, we're seeing what families are
having to deal with, and we sympathize. This is crazy
that they're allowing this in what was a great city
in the United States of America. But we could have
people protecting these neighborhoods, and instead the people of Illinois
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have to deal with a Democrat governor mugging for MSNBC
while the South and West sides bleed. Trump critics say, oh,
we just can't send in the guard. That's authoritarian.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Spare me.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
When liberal mayors lose control of their streets, that's not
local control, that's local surrender. The federal government has one
job above all else, protect the lives of American citizens life, liberty, happiness.
You have to have the life part. If Chicago can't
or won't do it, then it's time for backup. Look,
it's not like Trump invented the idea. The National Guard
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has been deployed before after riots and natural disasters, after
city governments couldn't handle the situation. And, make no mistake,
hundreds of homicides a year is a crisis. Chicago has
more gun depths in a year than many countries have
in a decade. You think if it were happening in
Martha's Vineyard, Democrats wouldn't be calling in like the Marines.
They'd have NATO there if this was happening in Nantucket. Okay,
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so it's just nuts to me that Washington Democrats want
to militarize the Dambis region in Eastern Europe, but they'll
allow Americans to get mowed down in Chicago with no relief.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Maybe they'll actually.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Care more about the murders and the Windy City if
they can somehow blame them on Vladimir Putin. And yet
the Democrat plan is always the same, Blame guns, Blame Republicans,
blame everything but their own failed policies. They pass progressive
bail reform that dumps criminals back on the streets faster
than cops can finish the paperwork. They lecture about equity
while ignoring the fact that most of the poorest, vulnerable
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neighborhoods are the ones suffering the most as a result
of the choices those government officials made. That is not justice,
That is abandonment. Meanwhile, Trump says law and order, three
simple words, radical to Democrats, reassuring to everyone else. It
means protecting the innocent, punishing the guilty, and making sure
moms never have to bury their children. Let's be clear,
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the people of Chicago deserve better. They deserve to walk
the streets without fear, ride the train without checking over
their shoulder, send their kids to school without praying there
isn't some sort of shooting nearby. And they're not getting
the help they need from Governor Pritzker or Mayor Johnson.
They're getting excuses, spin and press conferences. So when Trump
says we're going in, I didn't say when. It's not
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a game show line. It's a promise, a promise that
somebody in power actually gives a rip about Chicagoans who
have been abandoned by their so called leaders. Because here's
the truth, every statistic is a life, every decline and
violent crime still means another grandmother mugged, teenager, shot father,
never to come home, and until those numbers are near zero,
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no politician should be bragging. Trump understands this. He doesn't
see statistics. He sees citizens in need of help. So yes,
send in the guard, flood the streets with order, not chaos,
back up the police, lock up repeat offenders, and finally
give Chicago what they deserve most, a little bit of peace.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Joining us now.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Former Illinois State Senator and former Illinois Republican nominee for
Governor Darren Bailey. Senator Bailey, how are people in Illinois
reacting to President Trump's announcement that he's retaking Chicago.
Speaker 7 (06:00):
Well, Matt, overall people are, or they really are. They're
over joyed. I just came from Chicago last night. I've
been up there the last two weekends. There's people are scared,
they're concerned. Obviously, we're JB. Pritzker's walking up and down
Michigan Avenue and up and down the you know, the
Lake Shore Drive. Things are great there, but you just
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go a little bit to the south into some of
the other areas. And I've asked him to have challenged
him to go into too, Riverside and West and East
at Garfield Park at ten eleven midnight and see how
things are there. Matt, We've got to ask ourselves what's
a life worth? Thank goodness, I've recently heard today that
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it seems like these the National Guarden might be arriving
as early as Friday. And I think the biggest problem
is I think the problem with JB. Pritzker, with President
Trump and offering this help. I don't think he can
accept the truth because I don't think he can handle
the truth because I think what's going to happen is
this man is going to be exposed for the fool
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that he is all these years that he could have
offered more protection on the streets. As National Guard troops
show up in Chicago, they are going to restore order
to that city and people are going to be grateful.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
I want to think about who this will help the most.
You ran for governor, You've been to a lot of
these communities in Washington, d C. We actually saw the
areas that were rid of crime, most grateful to President Trump.
Do you think that's going to happen in Chicago? And
where might life be easier or better if the murderers
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are cut?
Speaker 7 (07:41):
I do the minorities are definitely the ones who are
facing the biggest challenges, and interestingly enough, they're also the
ones that are finally rising up and demanding demanding some help.
So many of these people who are afflicted and murdered,
our youngsters, people who you know, need opportunity, people who
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need help. There is no opportunity. There is no help
from any of these families in Chicago. And Governor Pritzker
has done nothing except continue to spend millions, more and
more millions in the name of health care and whatever else.
But no one knows where to go and get helpful.
That's one of the biggest things that I tried to
fight for as a state representative and a state senator.
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It feels good, you know, spending more and more of
the taxpayers money, but there's nothing to show for it. Illinois.
The people, the citizens of Chicago, that the families that
are suffering, if they need opportunity, they need better education.
If we focus on things like this, we're going to
be able to rid and weed out this crime problem.
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But right now, because of the Safety Act, because of
other majors that the Democrat controlled legislature and JB. Pritzker
and Brandon Johnson have enacted. They've handcuffed, literally handcuffed the
police to where they are limited and what they can do.
So I think I think it's obvious what we saw
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the fruit of in Washington, d C.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
What's you know?
Speaker 7 (09:13):
You've got the mayor they're praising President Trump. I don't
know if I don't know if JB. Pritzker will ever
get to that point, but I think he's going to
have to because I do believe, I truly believe that
the National Guard more help, they just need back. If
they need help, they need support, And I think a
lot of this nonsense will end five eight.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Centator Bailey, I'm going to take that bet that is
the hottest take of the show. You saying that you
predict by the time this is all over, JB. Pritzker
is thanking President Trump for safer streets in Chicago. If
that happens, you picked any steakhouse in Chicago, I will
come and we'll have a steak dinner together. But I
do think what we're watching play out is really a
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fork in the road, right because we noticed with may
Bowser something different. She could have acted like Mayor Johnson,
she could have acted like Governor Pritzker, but she's she
worked with the Trump administration, and now the poorest people
in DC, the people who are being terrorized the most,
get to have some relief. And so when we look
at the Bowser model, all of this smoke signals seem
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to indicate that Chicago's going to go another way. So
you know these players, well, you know everybody involved. President
Trump has explained his game plan. He's going in. How
do you think JB. Pritzker and Mayor Johnson are going
to respond after President Trump takes action on behalf of
the people?
Speaker 7 (10:37):
Well, I think JB. Pritzker is going to you know,
push back with every ounce of effort that he can.
That's why he's going to look so foolish later, and
because of his you know, big ambitions, he's going to
have to eat pro and do something.
Speaker 8 (10:51):
What that looks like.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (10:53):
Brandon Johnson, on the other hand, according to some of
the groups that I know that have been talking to him,
I think that he's just honestly think he's just being
bullied and overshadowed by Pritzker. I think that he, at
the end of the day, has the wherewithal with hin
him to understand and accept the fact that this needs done.
I mean, what is government's number one purpose? It is
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to protect people, and that is certainly not what's been
emulated with the Illinois government in the past. So I
look forward to seeing this play out. They're both they're
both just bad people. They're they're they're they're terrible leaders,
but they're not going to be able to deny the
change that I believe. If if the National Guard shows
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up this Friday, had given one week from now, what
would it Wouldn't it be awesome to have a weekend
go by in Chicago with no shootings and at least
no deaths.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Wonderful? That is, yes, that would be wonderful.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
And we we can't end on such a negative note
because Chicago was once one of the great cities of America.
It was this place of industry and innovation and power.
If we get this job done, if President Trump is
able to restore safety, what do you see as the
most optimistic potential future for a city so rooted in
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history and greatness.
Speaker 7 (12:17):
Well, right now today, if you walk down Michigan Avenue,
still twenty percent of the retail space is empty. Almost
every manufacturing facility or business in Cook County. The Chicago
area have an exit plan and it's just right across
the border in Indiana. So giving hope and giving the
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ambition to Chicagoans that they deserve. You're right, Chicago is
a beautiful city. As a matter of fact, I was
in a late night meeting last night on the North
Side and then as I drove about eight miles into
the city to the hotel, I mean, it's beautiful, and
at at two am in the morning at that where
I was at, it was peaceful. But I think that
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people will return. I think they will desire to do business.
I think that they when they have the opportunity to
truly thrive. I think Chicago holds the opportunity to be
the greatest city in the nation.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Well, let's hope that the folks there can at least
get some peace and some respite from the violence. Former
Illinois State Senator and former Republican nominee for Governor of Illinois,
Darren Bailey, thanks for coming on the program.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
As always, thank you, and.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Coming up there is a fresh new report out of
the Inspector General that deals with the Secret Service and
their protection of our government officials. Former Navy seal and
Arizona Congressman Eli Crane will be here to explain that
report and break it down after quick break.
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Speaker 1 (15:55):
It still seems surreal.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
To think about it, but President Trump is in the
White House today because these survived two assassination attempts. The
death of any American president or political candidate by bloodshed
would be reprehensible. So let's dig into how prepared or
unprepared we are for a subsequent act of violence. Spoiler alert.
We have a lot of work to do. A new
Department of Homeland Security report titled the Secret Services Counter
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Sniper Team is not staff to meet mission requirements was
just finalized. Here are a few of the things we learned. One,
the counter Sniper team is staff seventy three percent below
the level required.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
To meet mission needs.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
From twenty twenty to twenty twenty four, counter snipers logged
about a quarter of a million hours of overtime. That's
equivalent to adding about twenty four more full time positions
each year. So to manage these staffing shortfalls, the Secret
Service relied on snipers from other DHS components, including during
the twenty twenty four campaign season and the twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Five presidential inauguration.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
About eleven percent of the more than four hundred events
in twenty two twenty four used snipers who did not
meet mandatory weapons requalification requirements. The report issues two recommendations, one,
develop a staffing strategy and implement a plan to achieve
required levels, and two to implement regular weapon requalification processes.
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Arizona Congressman Eli Crane served as a Navy seal. He's
been following the assassination attempts and the government oversight very closely,
he joins US Now. Congressman Crane, what do you make
of this Department of Homeland Security Inspector General report regarding
Secret Service protection?
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Hey Matt, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
It was very exposing to learn that the Secret Service
Counter Sniper Division is about seventy three percent below.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
The level of needed manning.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
And these are questions that many of us were asking
after the President almost got assassinated back in July of
last year. And as I looked through the IG report,
one of the things that struck me as the most
interesting was that the pipeline to create a counter sniper
in the Secret Service was about three years long. That
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to give you a little context, I went through sniper
school with the Seal Teams and it took me three
months to get through sniper school.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Now I know that.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
They also have to learn law enforcement and other things
that we didn't have to learn.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
But one of the one of the.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Things in this report showed that they weren't willing to,
you know, directly hire former military snipers that have I
would I would put our snipers up with the Secret
Service snipers.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
Any day of the week, and it's not really.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
That hard to teach them, you know, some of the
other things that they need to know in law enforcement.
What I'm saying, Matt, is that pipeline shouldn't be three
years three years long, especially when when you have that
deficit of where you need to be manning wise with
the zero fail mission.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
What you've pointed out is is so over the target
here because we saw criticism in the report that DHS
was borrowing extra assets from other components in order to
deal with the secret Service function. But what you're saying
is that if someone who had done this work in
the military wanted to add a little extra time in
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wanted to come back and serve, that that would be
increasingly a burden. It seems like an obvious fix to
be able to allow those folks to come back and serve.
Do you think many would I mean, you know this community, well,
do you think veterans would come back with elite skills
like this and perhaps contract their services so that we
don't have these massive gaps in protecting our leaders.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
I do, Matt. And here's the thing I want to
mention too.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
I don't put this on the new director, mister Current
at all. He came into a complete mess created by
the Biden administration.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
I know that he's going to work with the IG to.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Fill these gaps in these holes, but I do believe
that many snipers leave the service would love to come back,
serve their country again, serve this amazing president and his
administration again, And so yeah, I think it's I think
it would be, you know, one pretty expedient and easy way.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
To fill up the gap that we have currently.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
I want to turn your attention to the government funding
fight that's coming. And there's a part of this dance
that is rhythmic and sad all at once. But you know,
it seems as though the big spenders are going to
try to create a continuing resolution for government funding leading
up to the holidays. Do you think that you announced
Conservatives have the votes to block that?
Speaker 3 (20:37):
You know, it'll be interesting, Matt. Right now, it's a
pretty fluid and dynamic situation. There's a bunch of proposals
out there. I don't know ultimately what the play call
is going to be.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
This is actually where we miss Matt.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Gates the most because this is typically where you'd come
in and, you know, say something completely off the wall
and brilliant at the same time and give us, you
know that, you know, the the courage to rally around it.
And so I've seen you do it many times. But
I don't know what's going to happen. Matt, I don't
know what the play call is going to be. All
I can tell you is is that our job as
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Conservatives is to keep the spending down as much as
we possibly can, and hopefully russ vote at O and
B will come through with some pretty big recisions and
impoundments later on in the year.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
I mean, if I was there with you now, I
would be anticipating the Schumer move because think about a
congressman crane on the left right now, they are in
total disarray, and the last time Schumer acquiesced to a
continuing resolution to keep the government open, they almost ate
him alive in the Democratic Party. And so my suspicion is,
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I think you all will do the right, pop proper,
prudent thing to keep the government open, to repose that
trust in President Trump's team, to deploy money when necessary,
save it, impound it in other cases. But they're going
to come up with some demand at the very end,
and you guys have got to lay the groundwork now
to make sure that is Schumer's fault, even if he
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comes up with some seemingly righteous thing. Do you think
that other Democrats feel the need to manifest some sort
of fight, even if it's in their long term detriment
and in the country's detriment.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Absolutely, Matt, I do, and I see it everywhere. I
see their number one strategy right now to try and disrupt,
you know, everything that the president is doing. And so
I absolutely believe that we're going to see some some fireworks.
And that's why I said the situation is very dynamic.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Cup here. There's many ideas being floated around.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
But hey, I know we'd all love to see you
fly back out here to DC man and get in
a room and lead the charge with us.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Well. I may come by for a few interviews next week.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Always good to see you, Arizona Congressman Eli Crane, Thanks
for fighting for your state and the whole country.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Thanks brother.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Coming up, we look at the role of state attorneys General.
One of Congress's sharpest, most outspoken members is going to
head to the Lone Star Republic to try to make
sure the law is on the side of the people.
Chip Roy with us next, don't go itead.
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You want to know the most underrated political office in America.
Governors get the parade, Senators get the c Span clip,
Congressmen get to send out a bunch of junk mail
at taxpayer expense. But the real action, the trench warfare
of American politics, is fought by state attorneys general. These
folks are the last line of defense between you and
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the last hair brained idea cooked up by Washington, DC,
the folks who think the Constitution can be tossed around
like Cardib's pen.
Speaker 9 (25:54):
Do you foresee any fraternity issue with Fidge?
Speaker 2 (26:02):
That is one way to deal with the press, Oh Cardy.
To explore how an attorney general can fight, we look
to the frequent guests on our program, Texas Attorney General
Ken Paxton. Whatever you think of the man's politics, This
is a guy who treated the Biden administration like a
pinata at a kid's birthday party. He filed lawsuits challenging
everything from illegal immigration policies to energy regulations. When Biden
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tried to put a moratorium on deportations in his first
week in office, it was Attorney General Ken Paxton who
hauled him into court and said, no, federal law still applies,
and the judge ended up siding with Texas. It was
the first major SmackDown of the Biden presidency courtesy of
a state attorney general who wasn't afraid to use the.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Law like a Louisville slugger.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Bat Now how that West Virginia's former attorney general now
Governor Patrick Morrissey. He went all the way to the
Supreme Court in West Virginia versus the EPA. That twenty
twenty two case clipped the wings of the EPA, which
had decided it could be basically remake the entire energy
grid by itself. The court said no, the EPA can't
just invent laws, and Morrisey's work set a precedent that
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reigned in the administrative state. That victory didn't just protect
West Virginia coal miners, It protected the Constitution's separation of powers,
and it helped everyone around the country. One attorney general,
one lawsuit, one massive conservative win for everyone. And then
there's the opioid fight. Republican attorney's general like those in
Florida and Ohio secured billions in settlements from big pharma
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companies that fueled the crisis. That's not just conservative, it's
common sense holding corporations accountable without needing some two hundred
page Obamacare style monstrosity. And remember when twenty one Republican
attorneys general sued over the vaccine mandates for private employers.
They argued the federal government had no authority to force
businesses to jab their workers. The Supreme Court agreed, striking
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it down in twenty twenty two. That was a major
turning point during all of the COVID craziness, or considered
defense of the Second Amendment, attorney general in Missouri and
Arizona have fought tooth and nail against attempts to regulate
firearms by executive fiat. They know what Democrats refused to admit.
The right to bear arms isn't about deer hunting. It's
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about keeping the government in check. The founders didn't put
muskets in the Bill of Rights because they were worried
about Bambi.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
And let's not forget the border.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
When Biden yawned on the surge of illegal crossings. Attorney's
general from Arizona, Texas Missouri, they sued over the administration's
attempt to scrap the remain in Mexico policy.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
They dragged majorcis.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Into court, and they demanded that the immigration law not
evaporate because Democrats discovered TikTok activists who think that borders
are racist. The beauty here is that attorney's general don't
need sixty votes in the Senate. They don't need to
beg Chuck Schumer for floor time. They just need a
good legal argument and the courage to go after it.
And time and again, conservative attorney's general have delivered, stalling, stopping,
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and sometimes dismantling the progressive wish list before it can
do damage. Congressmanship Roy is from the state of Texas.
He's just announced his campaign for Attorney General of the
Lone Star Republic and he joins us now, So, Congressman Roy,
why do you want to be the Attorney General of Texas?
Speaker 8 (29:16):
I like Lone Star Republic. Matt, good to be on.
I hope you're doing well. Look it's time to step
in and get back to Texas and go defend the
state that I love. And you just pointed out and
you made the case for why we need strong attorneys
general across the country. I feel that way about Texas
in particular. Look, I've basically said the other day to
a bunch of my constituents that I currently represent in Kerrville,
you know, just recently ravaged by all the floods. But
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I was meeting with a bunch of people who were
leaders on border security, and we were talking about how
it should be very clear, never again, well Texas be
subjected to wide open borders by an administration doesn't care
about the rule of law. Never again will fentanel poor
in our communities. Never again will be subjected to the
danger of cartels, but also other issues. Never again should
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the state of Texas be subjected to government shutdowns and
mandates and COVID mass mandates and our small businesses suffer.
Never again should chi cooms be coming into Texas and
buying up our land. Never again should big corporations be
able to come in and step on small Texas businesses
and interfere with our ability to afford insurance and be
able to afford home ownership. Never again should criminals be
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on our streets because George Soros DA's are putting those
criminals on our streets. We need a proven conservative, but
importantly proven fighter who's unafraid to fight, but unafraid to win. Matt,
you know me, well, we work together in the House.
I always want to find a way to win. And
that's what an attorney general needs to be able to do,
is be able to get into court and win on
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behalf of the people of Texas, win on behalf of
the people across this country. But I'm sick and tired
of letting a bunch of radical leftists in DC or
in Austin interfere with the God given rights to the
people of Texas. So I'm going to get in there
and go fight for them in court.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
You know, what you described has probably maximum utility in
an era where there is a Democrat in the White
House and the last lines of defense for the people
often is their state attorney general to protect their rights.
When there's a Republican administration, would you imagine the role
of attorney general being different. Would you look to some
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of the deprivations of people's rights that occur at the
local level in Texas and in some of these places
like Austin, does some of the policy choices there concern
you to the point where the Attorney general would need
to be involved.
Speaker 8 (31:27):
Yeah, one hundred percent. I mean, obviously, we've got friends
in the administration who are working with us now to
get it right. The President, Tom Holman, Stephen Miller, the
great folks at DHS, they're working hard to secure the border.
So they've stopped that problem. But we're now in the
process and we're moving folks. We need to be able
to work with them to do it. But you noticed
when I was rattling off the things, the concerns that
we have, you got bureaucrats that still exist everywhere. There's
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bureaucrats exist not just in the federal government but throughout state.
But importantly, you've also got to deal with the impact
of massive corporations. Massive corporations that are frankly step on
the ability of the average hardworking American to afford a home,
afford insurance, be able to get a job, small businesses
struggling so we've got to stand up on behalf of them. Like,
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the AG's office has a lot of powers that you
can use to be able to defend folks. But also
how about, for example, fighting for election integrity. I'm the
proud lead author of the save AC to guarantee that
only American citizens vote in American elections. Now we've got
stepped up powers because the Texas Legislature gave the AG
more powers to go fight to defend election integrity. That
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would be one of my primary objectives. I want to
stand up and defend sovereignty. I want to fight the
spread of radical Islam and Sharia law in Texas. I
want to fight to defend against open borders and cartels,
but also to preserve and protect our election integrity so
that you can actually believe in elections when we have
our votes.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
I am less concerned about election integrity in Texas than
I am other places. And like, if you know, if
one of your neighboring states was polluting the water and
that water flowed into your state, as the attorney general,
you presumably have standing to go and represent your state
against that. However, if another state is polluting our elections
process by not having chain of custody on their ballots,
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by not having signature verification, by indiscriminately creating an opportunity
for fraud by mailing out ballots when they aren't asked for.
Do you believe that state attorneys general could actually bring
an action against another state for their lacks policies.
Speaker 8 (33:28):
Yeah, certainly we have a strong case to make to
go into federal court to talk about what the impact
is when other states are impacting our ability to get
the president of our choice, or for example, other federal
officials across the country, if they're engaging in activities that
are undermining the elections federally, then they are by definition
harming states. But you have to be able to go
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in and make that case for why they are interfering
with your rights as a state. Understand, obviously, everybody watching this,
we care about preserving and protecting the ability of taxes
to manage our own elections, just like Louisiana you said
next to a neighbor, or say, y'all in Florida or
someone else around the country. We want to make sure
we're protecting our elections. But they don't have a right
to undermine the elections of the United States either, So
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it's important for ags to be able to work together
and be able to defend the laws of the United
States in addition to the laws of the state of Texas.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
I'll ask you one more campaign question and then I'm
eager to get to some of your work in Congress.
But you are the former chief of staff of Senator Cruz.
We think very highly of Senator Cruz. Another one of
his former chiefs of staff is running for the position.
Is that kind of weird to have two people that
both worked for Senator Cruz seeking the attorney general position?
And do you expect the Senator to endorse one of
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his former chiefs against the other?
Speaker 8 (34:43):
Well, interestingly, Senator Cruz has endorsed me, and I certainly
have accepted and appreciate his endorsement. He's a good friend.
But look, you know, elections are about choices. I ran
against eighteen people, Matt when I ran for Congress back
in twenty eighteen. We had a great primary. The voters
get to decide. I believe very much that process. But
I believe my record speaks for itself. I've got a
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plus or A ratings among every conservative organization proven Bona
Fides on every conservative issue under the sun. Proven fighter.
I'm a former federal prosecutor, so I've put bad guys
in jail. I'm the former first assistant Attorney General, so
I've actually been on all the pleadings and the documents
that we have submitted in courts and representing the people
in Texas in the AG's office, and now I want
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to come home to Texas to do it as the
Attorney General.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
I think you do a great job.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
And one thing I can say having worked with you,
is whether we agreed or disagreed, your viewpoint always was
rooted in the.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Constitution, and then also it was sincere.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
And one of the things we saw so frequently in
Congress was when people were not voting based on even
their own beliefs, but some external force. And that's why
I'm really proud that you and congress Woman Spamberg are
leading the effort or had led the effort to get
rid of congressional stock trading. Now I know It's Representative
magazine are working with you brief us on where the
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efforts to ban congressional stock trading and what you're expecting
in the coming weeks and months on that.
Speaker 8 (36:05):
Yeah. Thanks, Matt great point, great issue, Italy, It's a
ninety ten issue. Most Americans don't believe that we should
be enriching ourselves trading stocks and day trading while we're
voting on the issues that they send us to Washington
to get right on their behalf. Look, there are three
hundred and thirty million Americans. If you want a day trade,
look stay at home. But otherwise come up. We're just saying,
take whatever you've got in your investments, put it in
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broadly held mutual funds. You don't need to be trading
individual stocks, and go about your job. Proud to be
at a bipartisan press conference today at one o'clock, where
I was there with Seth Magaziner, who took the issue
over from Abigail Spamberger, who sends left Congress to run
for governor in Virginia. But also an interesting cross section.
We had Alexandria Cosio Cortes, we had Ramila Jay Paul,
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but we also had Scott Perry and Ship Roy and
Annapoline A Luna and conservatives. So it's an interesting cross section.
The only people who don't want to deal with this
issue are the entrenched introders in Washington. The people who
come here who want to be able to day trade,
to be able to I guess, pay their bills. Look,
at the end of the day, I think we ought
to be representing the people when we're in Congress. I
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don't think we should be voting on, for example, I
don't know, breaking up big tech while owning big portfolios.
Or how about debating monopoly interests for insurance companies or
hospitals that are you know, undermining the ability people to
afford healthcare. How can you vote honestly on that? Or
big AI, Or how about you know, defense contractors, whether
they're old school contractors or palenteer. We shouldn't be sending
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people off to war because people are getting rich because
they're invested in all these companies. It's assent on, so
we should change it. And I've been very clear to
the speaker. I was given a lot of grace until
we got through the big, beautiful bill. We delivered. We
got the bill done, We're now moving forward. It's time
to do this. We need a vote on the floor
of the House on banning congressional stock trading. It's time.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
People will watch this and they will say, well, gosh,
this is this is an issue that's popular with ninety
percent of the country. And so if you've been able
to unite everyone from on A Pauline a Luna to
Chip Royd to Primilajaia Paul and AOC and even someone
in kind of in the middle like Congressman, Magazine or
you really have the cross section. And so viewers will
watch this and they'll ask the question, what is standing
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in the way of a vote on this very popular measure.
Speaker 8 (38:19):
Well, look, leadership needs to put it on the floor.
You know how it works. So we're having issues right now,
having conversations about I'm trying to say we should follow
regular order. I believe in regular order. You believe in
regular order, but at some point sometimes you have to
use the full rules of the House to force people
to action. We believe that we've now got a bill
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that's going to demonstrate a lot of enthusiasm. It's now
a package bill where you've got a bipartisan We've merged
all the bills so there's no more division. So now
we're going to say, guys, put it in committee, let's
vote on it. You don't like something, offer an amendment,
that's fine. I don't have any pride of authorship. You know,
for example, at our bill, we have a requirement that
you disgorge all your profits and you get ten percent penalty.
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Do you want to reevaluate the penalty? Fine, let's vote
on that. If we have a provision in there that
allows you to take your equity, sell it, but on
a tax free basis, move it over into a mutual fund,
and you'd have to pay the tax on the game
when you finally sell the mutual fund. That way, you
would encourage people to come and just move it over. Okay,
you don't like that provision, get rid of it, So
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let's amend it. What are you afraid of? Regular order
works if you do it.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
The regular order process you're describing is that committees with
jurisdiction over these questions hold a hearing, They bring up legislation,
They allow members to contribute their ideas, and sometimes you
and I have been in that process and it's lasted
till two three in the morning. But it is better
than typically just slapping something on the floor and giving
people an upper down vote. So I actually did some
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research and anticipation of our discussion about what committee would
have jurisdiction over these questions, and this isn't new. You
filed bills like this for years. I filed bills like
this for years, and where they end up is the
House Administration Committee. Have you had conversations with the Chairman
of the House Administration Committee, Republican Brian Style, about getting
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this on the agenda so that it can be moved forward.
Speaker 8 (40:13):
I have, And look, I'm a little circumspective about talking
about private conversations, but you know how this process works.
Brian and I have had conversations. I've had conversations with
the Speaker just today on the House floor. They know
very well where we all are in terms of our
belief that this bill needs to move, and it needs
to move quickly. So we're going to keep having those conversations.
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We're going to keep pushing again for all the input
in the world, but it's time to move in Okay,
no more excuses. The American people are tired of it.
I mean, we've had this issue out there for five
years at least. I introduced the first bill that I
did on this in twenty twenty with Abigail, so that's
been five years. I've been raising it. I've been bringing
it up and I'm now tired of it. It's now
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game time. We need to vote on it. I promise
you this. We're out vocally putting out our support. The
people who oppose it, who if you heard out there
doing it loudly or vocally, you haven't because they know it,
they'd be upside down politically. They won't want to try
to kill it behind closed doors. That's why I want
an open process. I want regular order. Put it in committee,
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vote on amendments, bring it to the floor, vote on amendments,
pass it, send it to the Senate, and let's make
this a thing.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
And I hate to believer the point, but it's sort
of delicious because you think, to yourself, gosh, something so popular,
with such a unique cross section of members of Congress
supporting it. The House administration must be doing stuff that
is so important. It is more important than members of
Congress trading stocks. And I looked up and like they
are passing Democrat amendments about whether or not the Space
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Shuttle Discovery will remain in the Smithsonian, so they don't
have time to hear the bills.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Representative Roy has been filing for.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
Five years about congressional stock trading, but they are taking
up and debating the operative question about whether or not
the Space Shuttle Discovery should or should not have an
exhibit in the Smithsonian That to me demonstrates the tactics
of what Representative Roy is up against. But I want
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to ask you about whether or not it'll pass. But
then then shift and quickly get your sense on where
this government funding battle is. So if you get this
bill up, it does pass.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Right.
Speaker 8 (42:27):
I cannot imagine that if we get this bill or
a version close to it on the floor, then it
would not pass. I cannot imagine that the members of
Congress are willing to go home to their constituents and
go explain to them why they would oppose this. Tweak it,
make it better. All fine, there's some reasonable debates on
how to make this work properly, but there is no
debate that we should clear this issue off, restore trust
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in Congress, eliminate this from the issue again. You can
take your investments. You can put them in a broad
lay held trust fund, I mean a mutual fund, and
allow it to be at the S and P five
hundred or whatever you want. But get out of the
business of trading equities. You know that are interfering with
your ability to do your job.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
Coming up, we've got government funding that will run out.
You are typically the thought leader for House conservatives as
to finding the best deal we can get in moments
like this where there aren't too many people in Washington
worried about spending too much money. What are you fighting
for behind the scenes in these moments to try to
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avoid fiscal collapse for the country.
Speaker 8 (43:32):
Yeah, so, number one, we cannot spend more than we
currently are spending. Now, remember we are currently operating under
a continual Resolution that is extension of last year spending levels. Now,
all things being equal, given that Donald Trump is the president,
and given that his cabinet are in charge of the
of the various agencies and the various divisions of government,
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we believe that they're advancing the policies that we would prefer.
So a CR all things being equal, in this environment,
keeps spending it at a relatively low level. Now I
would rather cut it, but you know, Matt, we got
to get sixty votes in the Senate. So from my standpoint,
if we end up with another continuing resolution, while not perfect,
that's probably actually a win. With Donald Trump in the
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White House, because again he can protect the policies. Our
goal is to try to move the proporations bills, which
currently are at lower levels than current spending because the
President sent up a budget that's lower, and then get
that over to the Senate and force their hand on it.
But you know, and I know how that's going to go.
It's September already, so we're going to be up against
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the deadline. So I would probably support a continuing resolution
at current levels if we keep it at that level.
But you ask what the deal is. Under no circumstances
can we spend more than what we currently are spending.
And I would add to it, some weak need Republicans
want to do what has never been done. No Republican
has voted for an extension of the COVID era Obamacare
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subsidies or voted for any of those Obamacare substies at all.
Joe Biden extended subsidies and lifted the cap to blow
the lid in socialized medicine that is bankrupting healthcare, making
it impossible for my constituents and people across the country
afford healthcare. We should not do that, but there are
some weak Republicans who want to spend Matt get ready
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for this four hundred billion dollars they want to be
able to put out there for more spending. We have
said no to that. We believe that we can have
better health care, better outcomes, more affordable care for more
Americans because in the Big Beautiful Bill we put direct
primary care in that bill so that you can use
your insurance for it. We should be the party of solutions,
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but we can't do the old, same old in three
weeks and just you know, keep spending money.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
We don't have one place.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
We have seen solutions on the streets of DC where
things are a lot safer. Now I understand you've got
some legislation you're working on regarding the DC crime situation.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
How are you assessing it?
Speaker 8 (46:00):
Well, look, what the President has been doing has been extraordinary.
All these people hammering and mean. Look, you and I
both as lawyers that are on the House, you just
sharing committee and defending the constitution. The president has very
clear power here in DC, not only under the Constitution,
which you know, DC is not a state. We have
authority over DC as Congress under home rule. Yes they
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have home rule, but we gave explicit authority for the
president to be able to come in and act. And
by the way, you've got officials in DC who are thankful.
It's amazing. You've got Mayor Bowser, You've got the police
chief who are saying, well, wait a minute, this isn't
actually all that bad. Why because the president is acting.
The President is leading, and all of a sudden, no
murders in three weeks, all of a sudden eighty percent
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reduction in carjackings. Like it's amazing what happens when you
enforce the law. And if the President can use the
power that he has over DC to demonstrate to the
world that we do not have to have blue cities
across the country, including in Texas like Austin where criminals
run them up because leftist are in charge. Imagine the
model that we can set with the actual shining city
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on the hill. The President's done a great job. We
should support that. But you know, we'll see what happens
over the coming several weeks.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
Texas Congressmanship, Roy, thanks as always for stopping by and
sharing your perspective.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
We wish you well in your endeavors.
Speaker 8 (47:17):
Thanks Matt God bless you've heard me.
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Speaker 1 (48:10):
And coming up.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
The government funding fight continues. One of the House of
Representatives most fiscally conservative members. Tennessee Congressman Andy Ogles is
here to bring us inside the key negotiations don't go anywhere.
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Speaker 2 (50:39):
Government funding, did you know? It runs out at the
end of the month. The House and Senate will have
to pass some sort of funding legislation to avert a shutdown.
President Trump does not want a shutdown. That means any
bill to keep the government open will need sixty votes
in the Senate. According to NBC News, Senate Minority Leader
Chuck Schumer is now saying Democrats won't sign off on
an extension without restoring foreign aid and support financially for
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public broadcasting.
Speaker 1 (51:04):
Doesn't this seem like a.
Speaker 2 (51:05):
Weird hill to die on foreign aid in public broadcasting?
It is so revealing that what matters most to Capitol
Hill democrats is giving a money away to other countries
and making sure they have their favorite segment on NPR uncanceled.
Speaker 1 (51:20):
We wanted to find out what's driving these negotiations.
Speaker 2 (51:24):
Joining us now is Tennessee Congressman Andy Ogles. So, Congressman Ogles,
how are you seeing this government funding battle playing out?
Speaker 1 (51:31):
Well? To be determined?
Speaker 6 (51:33):
I mean, obviously we're bumping up against the deadline. There's
not enough time to get all the appropriations bills done,
So the question is do you do a short term
continuing resolution or do a longer term continued resolution. But
it'll be interesting to see what kind of the Senate
is willing to digest or accept, because the Democrats over
there are going to have to vote for something otherwise
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they'll be the ones responsible for a shutdown. So stay
tuned to be determined. Now that being said, we should
have passed all twelve appropriations bills and be done with this,
but here we are once again having to pass a
stop gap measure to find the government.
Speaker 2 (52:10):
We've heard the argument from Congressmanship Roy on this program
that a longer term continuing Resolution actually stops the type
of big monstrosity omnibus bill that I know you fought
against in Congress, I used to fight against in Congress.
Are you buying that argument that maybe a longer term
CR actually plays defense against some of the worst features
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of the swamp.
Speaker 1 (52:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (52:33):
I mean part of the issue is if you do
some sort of CR into December, then you end up
with this Christmas just omni That is disastrous because people
want to go home, they want to get back to
their districts. And so if you're going to do a
short term CR, you've got to get past December thirty. First,
you've got to take it into next year. Now, there's
some conversation about doing a year long CR, which triggers
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some automatic cuts and then but the problem with that
is is that they then can become a vehicle for
some of these community development projects, which opens the door
for more pork. And so there's pros and cons of both.
At the end of the day, I think what I want,
what you would want if you were a member of Congress,
what the American people want is not another Omnimus bill
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that wastes a bunch of money right at Christmas time. Look,
I'm willing to stay here. I have kids. I don't
want to have to stay here during Christmas. But if
it means cutting spending and doing the right thing, then
that's the job we signed up for.
Speaker 2 (53:29):
Yeah, when you say community development projects, that's just code
for earmarks. That's just using the legislative process to buy
votes to get what you need to get. But any
government funding built will still take sixty votes in the Senate.
And as we look at what's going on in the
Democratic Party right now, they're all over the place, and
it seems that the base of the Democrat Party is
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responding to the politicians that have the most reactive spasms
to whatever President Trump is doing or whatever the state
of Texas is doing. So are you pairing for Chuck
Schumer to try to hold government funding hostage for NPR
or for a restoration of foreign aid or any of
the priorities that they've been talking about.
Speaker 6 (54:12):
Well, I can't, you know, speak for the Senate, but
in the House, you know it's it's no negotiable for us.
We have a job to do and we're going to
push forward the speakers on board with, you know, doing
some sort of which you would call a quote unquote
clean cr. It's a CR. Nothing's really clean. But that
being said, making it is trim is functionally possible, and
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then putting it over there in the Senate. Now, when
you look at the last the last kind of quote
unquote shutdown, Schumer only allowed the government to be shut
down before for a few hours before he came. So
I'm not sure the Democrats really have the stomach to
be responsible for a government shut down going into the
holidays and of course the midterm.
Speaker 1 (54:52):
So you have a congressman.
Speaker 2 (54:53):
When he did that, frankly, yeah, but hold on, when
he did that, he got hammered by his base. I
actually think Schumer or miscalculated that because he did capitulate,
he did keep the government open, but then the other
side of the side just went crazy with him, and
he became the focal point.
Speaker 1 (55:09):
Of all of the frustration. And I are that.
Speaker 2 (55:11):
I guess like Democrats haven't stormed the Capitol yet or something,
and so I actually think that they'll try something, and
I don't know what issue it will be on. I
don't know what sacred cow they will try to restore.
But I'm sensing some type of a game from Schumer,
and it is telling and it is helpful that you're saying.
On the House side, the general philosophy is, let's keep
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the government open. Let's trust President Trump's cabinet and his
team members to do the right thing with the authority
and the discretion they have. I mean, is that fundamentally
the Republican position.
Speaker 5 (55:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (55:44):
Absolutely.
Speaker 6 (55:44):
But what I will say about Schumer is, you know,
those that got upset were the radical left, and I
think Schumer's approach is a little more moderate in that
he understands his own members. They're going to lose seats
in the Senate, and he's hearing from those members that
if shut this down, you're putting out, you know, more
seats potential in play for the Republicans, and so he's
(56:06):
got to fight that battle.
Speaker 4 (56:07):
That's his problem, not ours.
Speaker 6 (56:09):
And at the end of the day, if they want
to play games, they can own the shutdown.
Speaker 1 (56:12):
You know, the American people are.
Speaker 6 (56:13):
Tired of this craft in the same way they're tired.
Speaker 1 (56:15):
With crime in the streets.
Speaker 4 (56:16):
Right They've had enough.
Speaker 6 (56:17):
They want a president, they want real leadership, and it's
signed for the House, Republicans to do the job. Put
fordicipending plan that honors our promises we've been making to
the American people. And if Democrats want want to shut
down the government, then let them own it.
Speaker 2 (56:30):
Yeah, let's get into that work that's happening, to clean
up DC, to clean up our cities. You've got some
legislation to have Trump's back on some of the moves
he's making in the District of Columbia.
Speaker 1 (56:40):
Tell us about it.
Speaker 6 (56:42):
Well, so myself, we have the Bowser Act, which is
actually named after the mayor, but I have it in
the House, Mike Lee has it in the Senate, which
would remove home rule from the city council and the
mayor of DC. They'd done a horrible job that they
were given home rule back in the seventies, which allowed
them to to elect a city council and a mayor,
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and they've done nothing but horrible work since that time.
And so what we would do is restore the constitutional
principle where Congress would run Washington, d C. It's not
a city, it's not a state, and put it back
under our jurisdiction. And President Trump has proven that you
can have law and order even in a city like Washington,
d C. Where you've had two members of Congress muggs,
(57:25):
you had a staffer stabbed, you had an intern murdered,
you had the young man from Dose Big Balls almost
beat to death, and in a matter of two short weeks,
we've got no murders. You know, crime has been cut
in half. Carjackings are down eighty six percent. And what
that tells you is if you're a mayor in Chicago
or New York or Memphis, one of these cities that
are crime written, you better get your act together because
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there is a way to secure this country and it's
not by coddling criminals.
Speaker 2 (57:51):
Tennessee Congressman Andy Ogle's one of President Trump's top backers
on Capitol Hill. We appreciate you coming on the program
and letting us into those important negotiations. We hope you
gave as much money.
Speaker 1 (58:00):
As you can.
Speaker 4 (58:02):
Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 9 (58:02):
Care.
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We're going in. That's President Trump's message to Chicago.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
We've got a former Illinois lawmaker and Republican nominee for Governor,
Darren Bailey with US plus Texas Congressman Chip Roy is
on a rampage against congressional stock trading. Our conversation, you'll
see in moments names, names regarding who is.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Standing in the way.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
And we've got breaking news on the secret Service capability
around President Trump. Arizona Congressman and former Navy Seal Eli
Crane is here to go through it with US and
Tennessee Congressman Andy Ogles is backing Trump's anti crime push
in DC.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
It's all next on the Matck Gates Show. Let's do
this shaking up Washington, d C. We're breaking the fever.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Do you haven't watch this guy on television.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
It's like a machine. He's great, Matt Gates.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
You ever notice how every Democrat mayor brags about their
city being a world class hub of culture and progress.
Then they stop mid sentence because you hear the police
sirens drowning them out in the background. That's Chicago, the
windy City, the city of broad shoulders, deep dish, pizza
and crime. Statistics that look like a war report from Fallujah.
Americans are dying in Chicago, and it seems President Trump
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is going to do something about it.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Well, we're going in.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
I didn't say when we're going in.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Just last month, four were killed outside a nightclub at
an album release party.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Four dead, fourteen wounded.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Victims ranged from a young stylist to a young father.
These weren't numbers, they were lives that were taken away, shattered, destroyed.
In another lethal moment, on the CTA Blue Line back
in September of last year, a shooter mowed down four
sleeping strangers on the train. You saw victims ranging from
the age of twenty eight to sixty four.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
And they were chosen just by chance. What a sad
and tragic scenario.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
What a completely unnecessary loss of life. Now President Trump
takes one look and says we're going in. Democrats are
clutching their pearls. Meanwhile, regular Chicagoans are finally thinking, hey,
if somebody cares and notices that we are living in
a shooting gallery. Chicago had almost six hundred murders last year,
six hundred last year.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
By contrast, El.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Salvador has not had one murder in a thousand days.
Democrats act like the National Guard showing up as some
sort of invasion. Governor Pritzker of Illinois called it a
reality game show.
Speaker 6 (02:22):
I refuse to play a reality game show with Donald
Trump again.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
First of all, he wouldn't even be the best Illinois
governor to play a reality game show with Donald Trump.
That's obviously blugoyevitch. But look, we're seeing what families are
having to deal with, and we sympathize. This is crazy
that they're allowing this in what was a great city
in the United States of America. But we could have
people protecting these neighborhoods, and instead the people of Illinois
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have to deal with a Democrat governor mugging for MSNBC
while the South and West sides bleed. Trump critics say, oh,
we just can't send in the guard. That's authoritarian.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Spare me.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
When liberal mayors lose control of their streets, that's not
local control, that's local surrender. The federal government has one
job above all else, protect the lives of American citizens life, liberty, happiness.
You have to have the life part. If Chicago can't
or won't do it, then it's time for backup. Look,
it's not like Trump invented the idea. The National Guard
(03:25):
has been deployed before after riots and natural disasters, after
city governments couldn't handle the situation. And, make no mistake,
hundreds of homicides a year is a crisis. Chicago has
more gun depths in a year than many countries have
in a decade. You think if it were happening in
Martha's Vineyard, Democrats wouldn't be calling in like the Marines.
They'd have NATO there if this was happening in Nantucket. Okay,
(03:48):
so it's just nuts to me that Washington Democrats want
to militarize the Dambis region in Eastern Europe, but they'll
allow Americans to get mowed down in Chicago with no relief.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Maybe they'll actually.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Care more about the murders and the Windy City if
they can somehow blame them on Vladimir Putin. And yet
the Democrat plan is always the same, Blame guns, Blame Republicans,
blame everything but their own failed policies. They pass progressive
bail reform that dumps criminals back on the streets faster
than cops can finish the paperwork. They lecture about equity
while ignoring the fact that most of the poorest, vulnerable
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neighborhoods are the ones suffering the most as a result
of the choices those government officials made. That is not justice,
That is abandonment. Meanwhile, Trump says law and order, three
simple words, radical to Democrats, reassuring to everyone else. It
means protecting the innocent, punishing the guilty, and making sure
moms never have to bury their children. Let's be clear,
(04:44):
the people of Chicago deserve better. They deserve to walk
the streets without fear, ride the train without checking over
their shoulder, send their kids to school without praying there
isn't some sort of shooting nearby. And they're not getting
the help they need from Governor Pritzker or Mayor Johnson.
They're getting excuses, spin and press conferences. So when Trump
says we're going in, I didn't say when. It's not
(05:07):
a game show line. It's a promise, a promise that
somebody in power actually gives a rip about Chicagoans who
have been abandoned by their so called leaders. Because here's
the truth, every statistic is a life, every decline and
violent crime still means another grandmother mugged, teenager, shot father,
never to come home, and until those numbers are near zero,
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no politician should be bragging. Trump understands this. He doesn't
see statistics. He sees citizens in need of help. So yes,
send in the guard, flood the streets with order, not chaos,
back up the police, lock up repeat offenders, and finally
give Chicago what they deserve most, a little bit of peace.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Joining us now.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Former Illinois State Senator and former Illinois Republican nominee for
Governor Darren Bailey. Senator Bailey, how are people in Illinois
reacting to President Trump's announcement that he's retaking Chicago.
Speaker 7 (06:00):
Well, Matt, overall people are, or they really are. They're
over joyed. I just came from Chicago last night. I've
been up there the last two weekends. There's people are scared,
they're concerned. Obviously, we're JB. Pritzker's walking up and down
Michigan Avenue and up and down the you know, the
Lake Shore Drive. Things are great there, but you just
(06:22):
go a little bit to the south into some of
the other areas. And I've asked him to have challenged
him to go into too, Riverside and West and East
at Garfield Park at ten eleven midnight and see how
things are there. Matt, We've got to ask ourselves what's
a life worth? Thank goodness, I've recently heard today that
(06:43):
it seems like these the National Guarden might be arriving
as early as Friday. And I think the biggest problem
is I think the problem with JB. Pritzker, with President
Trump and offering this help. I don't think he can
accept the truth because I don't think he can handle
the truth because I think what's going to happen is
this man is going to be exposed for the fool
(07:06):
that he is all these years that he could have
offered more protection on the streets. As National Guard troops
show up in Chicago, they are going to restore order
to that city and people are going to be grateful.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
I want to think about who this will help the most.
You ran for governor, You've been to a lot of
these communities in Washington, d C. We actually saw the
areas that were rid of crime, most grateful to President Trump.
Do you think that's going to happen in Chicago? And
where might life be easier or better if the murderers
(07:40):
are cut?
Speaker 7 (07:41):
I do the minorities are definitely the ones who are
facing the biggest challenges, and interestingly enough, they're also the
ones that are finally rising up and demanding demanding some help.
So many of these people who are afflicted and murdered,
our youngsters, people who you know, need opportunity, people who
(08:04):
need help. There is no opportunity. There is no help
from any of these families in Chicago. And Governor Pritzker
has done nothing except continue to spend millions, more and
more millions in the name of health care and whatever else.
But no one knows where to go and get helpful.
That's one of the biggest things that I tried to
fight for as a state representative and a state senator.
(08:27):
It feels good, you know, spending more and more of
the taxpayers money, but there's nothing to show for it. Illinois.
The people, the citizens of Chicago, that the families that
are suffering, if they need opportunity, they need better education.
If we focus on things like this, we're going to
be able to rid and weed out this crime problem.
(08:49):
But right now, because of the Safety Act, because of
other majors that the Democrat controlled legislature and JB. Pritzker
and Brandon Johnson have enacted. They've handcuffed, literally handcuffed the
police to where they are limited and what they can do.
So I think I think it's obvious what we saw
(09:11):
the fruit of in Washington, d C.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
What's you know?
Speaker 7 (09:13):
You've got the mayor they're praising President Trump. I don't
know if I don't know if JB. Pritzker will ever
get to that point, but I think he's going to
have to because I do believe, I truly believe that
the National Guard more help, they just need back. If
they need help, they need support, And I think a
lot of this nonsense will end five eight.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Centator Bailey, I'm going to take that bet that is
the hottest take of the show. You saying that you
predict by the time this is all over, JB. Pritzker
is thanking President Trump for safer streets in Chicago. If
that happens, you picked any steakhouse in Chicago, I will
come and we'll have a steak dinner together. But I
do think what we're watching play out is really a
(09:56):
fork in the road, right because we noticed with may
Bowser something different. She could have acted like Mayor Johnson,
she could have acted like Governor Pritzker, but she's she
worked with the Trump administration, and now the poorest people
in DC, the people who are being terrorized the most,
get to have some relief. And so when we look
at the Bowser model, all of this smoke signals seem
(10:19):
to indicate that Chicago's going to go another way. So
you know these players, well, you know everybody involved. President
Trump has explained his game plan. He's going in. How
do you think JB. Pritzker and Mayor Johnson are going
to respond after President Trump takes action on behalf of
the people?
Speaker 7 (10:37):
Well, I think JB. Pritzker is going to you know,
push back with every ounce of effort that he can.
That's why he's going to look so foolish later, and
because of his you know, big ambitions, he's going to
have to eat pro and do something.
Speaker 8 (10:51):
What that looks like.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (10:53):
Brandon Johnson, on the other hand, according to some of
the groups that I know that have been talking to him,
I think that he's just honestly think he's just being
bullied and overshadowed by Pritzker. I think that he, at
the end of the day, has the wherewithal with hin
him to understand and accept the fact that this needs done.
I mean, what is government's number one purpose? It is
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to protect people, and that is certainly not what's been
emulated with the Illinois government in the past. So I
look forward to seeing this play out. They're both they're
both just bad people. They're they're they're they're terrible leaders,
but they're not going to be able to deny the
change that I believe. If if the National Guard shows
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up this Friday, had given one week from now, what
would it Wouldn't it be awesome to have a weekend
go by in Chicago with no shootings and at least
no deaths.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Wonderful? That is, yes, that would be wonderful.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
And we we can't end on such a negative note
because Chicago was once one of the great cities of America.
It was this place of industry and innovation and power.
If we get this job done, if President Trump is
able to restore safety, what do you see as the
most optimistic potential future for a city so rooted in
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history and greatness.
Speaker 7 (12:17):
Well, right now today, if you walk down Michigan Avenue,
still twenty percent of the retail space is empty. Almost
every manufacturing facility or business in Cook County. The Chicago
area have an exit plan and it's just right across
the border in Indiana. So giving hope and giving the
(12:37):
ambition to Chicagoans that they deserve. You're right, Chicago is
a beautiful city. As a matter of fact, I was
in a late night meeting last night on the North
Side and then as I drove about eight miles into
the city to the hotel, I mean, it's beautiful, and
at at two am in the morning at that where
I was at, it was peaceful. But I think that
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people will return. I think they will desire to do business.
I think that they when they have the opportunity to
truly thrive. I think Chicago holds the opportunity to be
the greatest city in the nation.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Well, let's hope that the folks there can at least
get some peace and some respite from the violence. Former
Illinois State Senator and former Republican nominee for Governor of Illinois,
Darren Bailey, thanks for coming on the program.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
As always, thank you, and.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Coming up there is a fresh new report out of
the Inspector General that deals with the Secret Service and
their protection of our government officials. Former Navy seal and
Arizona Congressman Eli Crane will be here to explain that
report and break it down after quick break.
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Speaker 1 (15:55):
It still seems surreal.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
To think about it, but President Trump is in the
White House today because these survived two assassination attempts. The
death of any American president or political candidate by bloodshed
would be reprehensible. So let's dig into how prepared or
unprepared we are for a subsequent act of violence. Spoiler alert.
We have a lot of work to do. A new
Department of Homeland Security report titled the Secret Services Counter
(16:20):
Sniper Team is not staff to meet mission requirements was
just finalized. Here are a few of the things we learned. One,
the counter Sniper team is staff seventy three percent below
the level required.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
To meet mission needs.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
From twenty twenty to twenty twenty four, counter snipers logged
about a quarter of a million hours of overtime. That's
equivalent to adding about twenty four more full time positions
each year. So to manage these staffing shortfalls, the Secret
Service relied on snipers from other DHS components, including during
the twenty twenty four campaign season and the twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Five presidential inauguration.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
About eleven percent of the more than four hundred events
in twenty two twenty four used snipers who did not
meet mandatory weapons requalification requirements. The report issues two recommendations, one,
develop a staffing strategy and implement a plan to achieve
required levels, and two to implement regular weapon requalification processes.
(17:17):
Arizona Congressman Eli Crane served as a Navy seal. He's
been following the assassination attempts and the government oversight very closely,
he joins US Now. Congressman Crane, what do you make
of this Department of Homeland Security Inspector General report regarding
Secret Service protection?
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Hey Matt, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
It was very exposing to learn that the Secret Service
Counter Sniper Division is about seventy three percent below.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
The level of needed manning.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
And these are questions that many of us were asking
after the President almost got assassinated back in July of
last year. And as I looked through the IG report,
one of the things that struck me as the most
interesting was that the pipeline to create a counter sniper
in the Secret Service was about three years long. That
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to give you a little context, I went through sniper
school with the Seal Teams and it took me three
months to get through sniper school.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Now I know that.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
They also have to learn law enforcement and other things
that we didn't have to learn.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
But one of the one of the.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Things in this report showed that they weren't willing to,
you know, directly hire former military snipers that have I
would I would put our snipers up with the Secret
Service snipers.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
Any day of the week, and it's not really.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
That hard to teach them, you know, some of the
other things that they need to know in law enforcement.
What I'm saying, Matt, is that pipeline shouldn't be three
years three years long, especially when when you have that
deficit of where you need to be manning wise with
the zero fail mission.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
What you've pointed out is is so over the target
here because we saw criticism in the report that DHS
was borrowing extra assets from other components in order to
deal with the secret Service function. But what you're saying
is that if someone who had done this work in
the military wanted to add a little extra time in
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wanted to come back and serve, that that would be
increasingly a burden. It seems like an obvious fix to
be able to allow those folks to come back and serve.
Do you think many would I mean, you know this community, well,
do you think veterans would come back with elite skills
like this and perhaps contract their services so that we
don't have these massive gaps in protecting our leaders.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
I do, Matt. And here's the thing I want to
mention too.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
I don't put this on the new director, mister Current
at all. He came into a complete mess created by
the Biden administration.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
I know that he's going to work with the IG to.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Fill these gaps in these holes, but I do believe
that many snipers leave the service would love to come back,
serve their country again, serve this amazing president and his
administration again, And so yeah, I think it's I think
it would be, you know, one pretty expedient and easy way.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
To fill up the gap that we have currently.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
I want to turn your attention to the government funding
fight that's coming. And there's a part of this dance
that is rhythmic and sad all at once. But you know,
it seems as though the big spenders are going to
try to create a continuing resolution for government funding leading
up to the holidays. Do you think that you announced
Conservatives have the votes to block that?
Speaker 3 (20:37):
You know, it'll be interesting, Matt. Right now, it's a
pretty fluid and dynamic situation. There's a bunch of proposals
out there. I don't know ultimately what the play call
is going to be.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
This is actually where we miss Matt.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Gates the most because this is typically where you'd come
in and, you know, say something completely off the wall
and brilliant at the same time and give us, you
know that, you know, the the courage to rally around it.
And so I've seen you do it many times. But
I don't know what's going to happen. Matt, I don't
know what the play call is going to be. All
I can tell you is is that our job as
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Conservatives is to keep the spending down as much as
we possibly can, and hopefully russ vote at O and
B will come through with some pretty big recisions and
impoundments later on in the year.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
I mean, if I was there with you now, I
would be anticipating the Schumer move because think about a
congressman crane on the left right now, they are in
total disarray, and the last time Schumer acquiesced to a
continuing resolution to keep the government open, they almost ate
him alive in the Democratic Party. And so my suspicion is,
(21:44):
I think you all will do the right, pop proper,
prudent thing to keep the government open, to repose that
trust in President Trump's team, to deploy money when necessary,
save it, impound it in other cases. But they're going
to come up with some demand at the very end,
and you guys have got to lay the groundwork now
to make sure that is Schumer's fault, even if he
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comes up with some seemingly righteous thing. Do you think
that other Democrats feel the need to manifest some sort
of fight, even if it's in their long term detriment
and in the country's detriment.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Absolutely, Matt, I do, and I see it everywhere. I
see their number one strategy right now to try and disrupt,
you know, everything that the president is doing. And so
I absolutely believe that we're going to see some some fireworks.
And that's why I said the situation is very dynamic.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Cup here. There's many ideas being floated around.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
But hey, I know we'd all love to see you
fly back out here to DC man and get in
a room and lead the charge with us.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Well. I may come by for a few interviews next week.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Always good to see you, Arizona Congressman Eli Crane, Thanks
for fighting for your state and the whole country.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Thanks brother.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Coming up, we look at the role of state attorneys General.
One of Congress's sharpest, most outspoken members is going to
head to the Lone Star Republic to try to make
sure the law is on the side of the people.
Chip Roy with us next, don't go itead.
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You want to know the most underrated political office in America.
Governors get the parade, Senators get the c Span clip,
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at taxpayer expense. But the real action, the trench warfare
of American politics, is fought by state attorneys general. These
folks are the last line of defense between you and
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the last hair brained idea cooked up by Washington, DC,
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Do you foresee any fraternity issue with Fidge?
Speaker 2 (26:02):
That is one way to deal with the press, Oh Cardy.
To explore how an attorney general can fight, we look
to the frequent guests on our program, Texas Attorney General
Ken Paxton. Whatever you think of the man's politics, This
is a guy who treated the Biden administration like a
pinata at a kid's birthday party. He filed lawsuits challenging
everything from illegal immigration policies to energy regulations. When Biden
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tried to put a moratorium on deportations in his first
week in office, it was Attorney General Ken Paxton who
hauled him into court and said, no, federal law still applies,
and the judge ended up siding with Texas. It was
the first major SmackDown of the Biden presidency courtesy of
a state attorney general who wasn't afraid to use the.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Law like a Louisville slugger.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Bat Now how that West Virginia's former attorney general now
Governor Patrick Morrissey. He went all the way to the
Supreme Court in West Virginia versus the EPA. That twenty
twenty two case clipped the wings of the EPA, which
had decided it could be basically remake the entire energy
grid by itself. The court said no, the EPA can't
just invent laws, and Morrisey's work set a precedent that
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reigned in the administrative state. That victory didn't just protect
West Virginia coal miners, It protected the Constitution's separation of powers,
and it helped everyone around the country. One attorney general,
one lawsuit, one massive conservative win for everyone. And then
there's the opioid fight. Republican attorney's general like those in
Florida and Ohio secured billions in settlements from big pharma
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companies that fueled the crisis. That's not just conservative, it's
common sense holding corporations accountable without needing some two hundred
page Obamacare style monstrosity. And remember when twenty one Republican
attorneys general sued over the vaccine mandates for private employers.
They argued the federal government had no authority to force
businesses to jab their workers. The Supreme Court agreed, striking
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it down in twenty twenty two. That was a major
turning point during all of the COVID craziness, or considered
defense of the Second Amendment, attorney general in Missouri and
Arizona have fought tooth and nail against attempts to regulate
firearms by executive fiat. They know what Democrats refused to admit.
The right to bear arms isn't about deer hunting. It's
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about keeping the government in check. The founders didn't put
muskets in the Bill of Rights because they were worried
about Bambi.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
And let's not forget the border.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
When Biden yawned on the surge of illegal crossings. Attorney's
general from Arizona, Texas Missouri, they sued over the administration's
attempt to scrap the remain in Mexico policy.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
They dragged majorcis.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Into court, and they demanded that the immigration law not
evaporate because Democrats discovered TikTok activists who think that borders
are racist. The beauty here is that attorney's general don't
need sixty votes in the Senate. They don't need to
beg Chuck Schumer for floor time. They just need a
good legal argument and the courage to go after it.
And time and again, conservative attorney's general have delivered, stalling, stopping,
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and sometimes dismantling the progressive wish list before it can
do damage. Congressmanship Roy is from the state of Texas.
He's just announced his campaign for Attorney General of the
Lone Star Republic and he joins us now, So, Congressman Roy,
why do you want to be the Attorney General of Texas?
Speaker 8 (29:16):
I like Lone Star Republic. Matt, good to be on.
I hope you're doing well. Look it's time to step
in and get back to Texas and go defend the
state that I love. And you just pointed out and
you made the case for why we need strong attorneys
general across the country. I feel that way about Texas
in particular. Look, I've basically said the other day to
a bunch of my constituents that I currently represent in Kerrville,
you know, just recently ravaged by all the floods. But
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I was meeting with a bunch of people who were
leaders on border security, and we were talking about how
it should be very clear, never again, well Texas be
subjected to wide open borders by an administration doesn't care
about the rule of law. Never again will fentanel poor
in our communities. Never again will be subjected to the
danger of cartels, but also other issues. Never again should
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the state of Texas be subjected to government shutdowns and
mandates and COVID mass mandates and our small businesses suffer.
Never again should chi cooms be coming into Texas and
buying up our land. Never again should big corporations be
able to come in and step on small Texas businesses
and interfere with our ability to afford insurance and be
able to afford home ownership. Never again should criminals be
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on our streets because George Soros DA's are putting those
criminals on our streets. We need a proven conservative, but
importantly proven fighter who's unafraid to fight, but unafraid to win. Matt,
you know me, well, we work together in the House.
I always want to find a way to win. And
that's what an attorney general needs to be able to do,
is be able to get into court and win on
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behalf of the people of Texas, win on behalf of
the people across this country. But I'm sick and tired
of letting a bunch of radical leftists in DC or
in Austin interfere with the God given rights to the
people of Texas. So I'm going to get in there
and go fight for them in court.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
You know, what you described has probably maximum utility in
an era where there is a Democrat in the White
House and the last lines of defense for the people
often is their state attorney general to protect their rights.
When there's a Republican administration, would you imagine the role
of attorney general being different. Would you look to some
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of the deprivations of people's rights that occur at the
local level in Texas and in some of these places
like Austin, does some of the policy choices there concern
you to the point where the Attorney general would need
to be involved.
Speaker 8 (31:27):
Yeah, one hundred percent. I mean, obviously, we've got friends
in the administration who are working with us now to
get it right. The President, Tom Holman, Stephen Miller, the
great folks at DHS, they're working hard to secure the border.
So they've stopped that problem. But we're now in the
process and we're moving folks. We need to be able
to work with them to do it. But you noticed
when I was rattling off the things, the concerns that
we have, you got bureaucrats that still exist everywhere. There's
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bureaucrats exist not just in the federal government but throughout state.
But importantly, you've also got to deal with the impact
of massive corporations. Massive corporations that are frankly step on
the ability of the average hardworking American to afford a home,
afford insurance, be able to get a job, small businesses
struggling so we've got to stand up on behalf of them. Like,
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the AG's office has a lot of powers that you
can use to be able to defend folks. But also
how about, for example, fighting for election integrity. I'm the
proud lead author of the save AC to guarantee that
only American citizens vote in American elections. Now we've got
stepped up powers because the Texas Legislature gave the AG
more powers to go fight to defend election integrity. That
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would be one of my primary objectives. I want to
stand up and defend sovereignty. I want to fight the
spread of radical Islam and Sharia law in Texas. I
want to fight to defend against open borders and cartels,
but also to preserve and protect our election integrity so
that you can actually believe in elections when we have
our votes.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
I am less concerned about election integrity in Texas than
I am other places. And like, if you know, if
one of your neighboring states was polluting the water and
that water flowed into your state, as the attorney general,
you presumably have standing to go and represent your state
against that. However, if another state is polluting our elections
process by not having chain of custody on their ballots,
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by not having signature verification, by indiscriminately creating an opportunity
for fraud by mailing out ballots when they aren't asked for.
Do you believe that state attorneys general could actually bring
an action against another state for their lacks policies.
Speaker 8 (33:28):
Yeah, certainly we have a strong case to make to
go into federal court to talk about what the impact
is when other states are impacting our ability to get
the president of our choice, or for example, other federal
officials across the country, if they're engaging in activities that
are undermining the elections federally, then they are by definition
harming states. But you have to be able to go
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in and make that case for why they are interfering
with your rights as a state. Understand, obviously, everybody watching this,
we care about preserving and protecting the ability of taxes
to manage our own elections, just like Louisiana you said
next to a neighbor, or say, y'all in Florida or
someone else around the country. We want to make sure
we're protecting our elections. But they don't have a right
to undermine the elections of the United States either, So
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it's important for ags to be able to work together
and be able to defend the laws of the United
States in addition to the laws of the state of Texas.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
I'll ask you one more campaign question and then I'm
eager to get to some of your work in Congress.
But you are the former chief of staff of Senator Cruz.
We think very highly of Senator Cruz. Another one of
his former chiefs of staff is running for the position.
Is that kind of weird to have two people that
both worked for Senator Cruz seeking the attorney general position?
And do you expect the Senator to endorse one of
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his former chiefs against the other?
Speaker 8 (34:43):
Well, interestingly, Senator Cruz has endorsed me, and I certainly
have accepted and appreciate his endorsement. He's a good friend.
But look, you know, elections are about choices. I ran
against eighteen people, Matt when I ran for Congress back
in twenty eighteen. We had a great primary. The voters
get to decide. I believe very much that process. But
I believe my record speaks for itself. I've got a
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plus or A ratings among every conservative organization proven Bona
Fides on every conservative issue under the sun. Proven fighter.
I'm a former federal prosecutor, so I've put bad guys
in jail. I'm the former first assistant Attorney General, so
I've actually been on all the pleadings and the documents
that we have submitted in courts and representing the people
in Texas in the AG's office, and now I want
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to come home to Texas to do it as the
Attorney General.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
I think you do a great job.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
And one thing I can say having worked with you,
is whether we agreed or disagreed, your viewpoint always was
rooted in the.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Constitution, and then also it was sincere.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
And one of the things we saw so frequently in
Congress was when people were not voting based on even
their own beliefs, but some external force. And that's why
I'm really proud that you and congress Woman Spamberg are
leading the effort or had led the effort to get
rid of congressional stock trading. Now I know It's Representative
magazine are working with you brief us on where the
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efforts to ban congressional stock trading and what you're expecting
in the coming weeks and months on that.
Speaker 8 (36:05):
Yeah. Thanks, Matt great point, great issue, Italy, It's a
ninety ten issue. Most Americans don't believe that we should
be enriching ourselves trading stocks and day trading while we're
voting on the issues that they send us to Washington
to get right on their behalf. Look, there are three
hundred and thirty million Americans. If you want a day trade,
look stay at home. But otherwise come up. We're just saying,
take whatever you've got in your investments, put it in
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broadly held mutual funds. You don't need to be trading
individual stocks, and go about your job. Proud to be
at a bipartisan press conference today at one o'clock, where
I was there with Seth Magaziner, who took the issue
over from Abigail Spamberger, who sends left Congress to run
for governor in Virginia. But also an interesting cross section.
We had Alexandria Cosio Cortes, we had Ramila Jay Paul,
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but we also had Scott Perry and Ship Roy and
Annapoline A Luna and conservatives. So it's an interesting cross section.
The only people who don't want to deal with this
issue are the entrenched introders in Washington. The people who
come here who want to be able to day trade,
to be able to I guess, pay their bills. Look,
at the end of the day, I think we ought
to be representing the people when we're in Congress. I
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don't think we should be voting on, for example, I
don't know, breaking up big tech while owning big portfolios.
Or how about debating monopoly interests for insurance companies or
hospitals that are you know, undermining the ability people to
afford healthcare. How can you vote honestly on that? Or
big AI, Or how about you know, defense contractors, whether
they're old school contractors or palenteer. We shouldn't be sending
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people off to war because people are getting rich because
they're invested in all these companies. It's assent on, so
we should change it. And I've been very clear to
the speaker. I was given a lot of grace until
we got through the big, beautiful bill. We delivered. We
got the bill done, We're now moving forward. It's time
to do this. We need a vote on the floor
of the House on banning congressional stock trading. It's time.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
People will watch this and they will say, well, gosh,
this is this is an issue that's popular with ninety
percent of the country. And so if you've been able
to unite everyone from on A Pauline a Luna to
Chip Royd to Primilajaia Paul and AOC and even someone
in kind of in the middle like Congressman, Magazine or
you really have the cross section. And so viewers will
watch this and they'll ask the question, what is standing
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in the way of a vote on this very popular measure.
Speaker 8 (38:19):
Well, look, leadership needs to put it on the floor.
You know how it works. So we're having issues right now,
having conversations about I'm trying to say we should follow
regular order. I believe in regular order. You believe in
regular order, but at some point sometimes you have to
use the full rules of the House to force people
to action. We believe that we've now got a bill
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that's going to demonstrate a lot of enthusiasm. It's now
a package bill where you've got a bipartisan We've merged
all the bills so there's no more division. So now
we're going to say, guys, put it in committee, let's
vote on it. You don't like something, offer an amendment,
that's fine. I don't have any pride of authorship. You know,
for example, at our bill, we have a requirement that
you disgorge all your profits and you get ten percent penalty.
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Do you want to reevaluate the penalty? Fine, let's vote
on that. If we have a provision in there that
allows you to take your equity, sell it, but on
a tax free basis, move it over into a mutual fund,
and you'd have to pay the tax on the game
when you finally sell the mutual fund. That way, you
would encourage people to come and just move it over. Okay,
you don't like that provision, get rid of it, So
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let's amend it. What are you afraid of? Regular order
works if you do it.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
The regular order process you're describing is that committees with
jurisdiction over these questions hold a hearing, They bring up legislation,
They allow members to contribute their ideas, and sometimes you
and I have been in that process and it's lasted
till two three in the morning. But it is better
than typically just slapping something on the floor and giving
people an upper down vote. So I actually did some
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research and anticipation of our discussion about what committee would
have jurisdiction over these questions, and this isn't new. You
filed bills like this for years. I filed bills like
this for years, and where they end up is the
House Administration Committee. Have you had conversations with the Chairman
of the House Administration Committee, Republican Brian Style, about getting
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this on the agenda so that it can be moved forward.
Speaker 8 (40:13):
I have, And look, I'm a little circumspective about talking
about private conversations, but you know how this process works.
Brian and I have had conversations. I've had conversations with
the Speaker just today on the House floor. They know
very well where we all are in terms of our
belief that this bill needs to move, and it needs
to move quickly. So we're going to keep having those conversations.
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We're going to keep pushing again for all the input
in the world, but it's time to move in Okay,
no more excuses. The American people are tired of it.
I mean, we've had this issue out there for five
years at least. I introduced the first bill that I
did on this in twenty twenty with Abigail, so that's
been five years. I've been raising it. I've been bringing
it up and I'm now tired of it. It's now
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game time. We need to vote on it. I promise
you this. We're out vocally putting out our support. The
people who oppose it, who if you heard out there
doing it loudly or vocally, you haven't because they know it,
they'd be upside down politically. They won't want to try
to kill it behind closed doors. That's why I want
an open process. I want regular order. Put it in committee,
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vote on amendments, bring it to the floor, vote on amendments,
pass it, send it to the Senate, and let's make
this a thing.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
And I hate to believer the point, but it's sort
of delicious because you think, to yourself, gosh, something so popular,
with such a unique cross section of members of Congress
supporting it. The House administration must be doing stuff that
is so important. It is more important than members of
Congress trading stocks. And I looked up and like they
are passing Democrat amendments about whether or not the Space
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Shuttle Discovery will remain in the Smithsonian, so they don't
have time to hear the bills.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Representative Roy has been filing for.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
Five years about congressional stock trading, but they are taking
up and debating the operative question about whether or not
the Space Shuttle Discovery should or should not have an
exhibit in the Smithsonian That to me demonstrates the tactics
of what Representative Roy is up against. But I want
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to ask you about whether or not it'll pass. But
then then shift and quickly get your sense on where
this government funding battle is. So if you get this
bill up, it does pass.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Right.
Speaker 8 (42:27):
I cannot imagine that if we get this bill or
a version close to it on the floor, then it
would not pass. I cannot imagine that the members of
Congress are willing to go home to their constituents and
go explain to them why they would oppose this. Tweak it,
make it better. All fine, there's some reasonable debates on
how to make this work properly, but there is no
debate that we should clear this issue off, restore trust
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in Congress, eliminate this from the issue again. You can
take your investments. You can put them in a broad
lay held trust fund, I mean a mutual fund, and
allow it to be at the S and P five
hundred or whatever you want. But get out of the
business of trading equities. You know that are interfering with
your ability to do your job.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
Coming up, we've got government funding that will run out.
You are typically the thought leader for House conservatives as
to finding the best deal we can get in moments
like this where there aren't too many people in Washington
worried about spending too much money. What are you fighting
for behind the scenes in these moments to try to
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avoid fiscal collapse for the country.
Speaker 8 (43:32):
Yeah, so, number one, we cannot spend more than we
currently are spending. Now, remember we are currently operating under
a continual Resolution that is extension of last year spending levels. Now,
all things being equal, given that Donald Trump is the president,
and given that his cabinet are in charge of the
of the various agencies and the various divisions of government,
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we believe that they're advancing the policies that we would prefer.
So a CR all things being equal, in this environment,
keeps spending it at a relatively low level. Now I
would rather cut it, but you know, Matt, we got
to get sixty votes in the Senate. So from my standpoint,
if we end up with another continuing resolution, while not perfect,
that's probably actually a win. With Donald Trump in the
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White House, because again he can protect the policies. Our
goal is to try to move the proporations bills, which
currently are at lower levels than current spending because the
President sent up a budget that's lower, and then get
that over to the Senate and force their hand on it.
But you know, and I know how that's going to go.
It's September already, so we're going to be up against
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the deadline. So I would probably support a continuing resolution
at current levels if we keep it at that level.
But you ask what the deal is. Under no circumstances
can we spend more than what we currently are spending.
And I would add to it, some weak need Republicans
want to do what has never been done. No Republican
has voted for an extension of the COVID era Obamacare
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subsidies or voted for any of those Obamacare substies at all.
Joe Biden extended subsidies and lifted the cap to blow
the lid in socialized medicine that is bankrupting healthcare, making
it impossible for my constituents and people across the country
afford healthcare. We should not do that, but there are
some weak Republicans who want to spend Matt get ready
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for this four hundred billion dollars they want to be
able to put out there for more spending. We have
said no to that. We believe that we can have
better health care, better outcomes, more affordable care for more
Americans because in the Big Beautiful Bill we put direct
primary care in that bill so that you can use
your insurance for it. We should be the party of solutions,
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but we can't do the old, same old in three
weeks and just you know, keep spending money.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
We don't have one place.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
We have seen solutions on the streets of DC where
things are a lot safer. Now I understand you've got
some legislation you're working on regarding the DC crime situation.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
How are you assessing it?
Speaker 8 (46:00):
Well, look, what the President has been doing has been extraordinary.
All these people hammering and mean. Look, you and I
both as lawyers that are on the House, you just
sharing committee and defending the constitution. The president has very
clear power here in DC, not only under the Constitution,
which you know, DC is not a state. We have
authority over DC as Congress under home rule. Yes they
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have home rule, but we gave explicit authority for the
president to be able to come in and act. And
by the way, you've got officials in DC who are thankful.
It's amazing. You've got Mayor Bowser, You've got the police
chief who are saying, well, wait a minute, this isn't
actually all that bad. Why because the president is acting.
The President is leading, and all of a sudden, no
murders in three weeks, all of a sudden eighty percent
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reduction in carjackings. Like it's amazing what happens when you
enforce the law. And if the President can use the
power that he has over DC to demonstrate to the
world that we do not have to have blue cities
across the country, including in Texas like Austin where criminals
run them up because leftist are in charge. Imagine the
model that we can set with the actual shining city
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on the hill. The President's done a great job. We
should support that. But you know, we'll see what happens
over the coming several weeks.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
Texas Congressmanship, Roy, thanks as always for stopping by and
sharing your perspective.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
We wish you well in your endeavors.
Speaker 8 (47:17):
Thanks Matt God bless you've heard me.
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And coming up.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
The government funding fight continues. One of the House of
Representatives most fiscally conservative members. Tennessee Congressman Andy Ogles is
here to bring us inside the key negotiations don't go anywhere.
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Speaker 2 (50:39):
Government funding, did you know? It runs out at the
end of the month. The House and Senate will have
to pass some sort of funding legislation to avert a shutdown.
President Trump does not want a shutdown. That means any
bill to keep the government open will need sixty votes
in the Senate. According to NBC News, Senate Minority Leader
Chuck Schumer is now saying Democrats won't sign off on
an extension without restoring foreign aid and support financially for
(51:02):
public broadcasting.
Speaker 1 (51:04):
Doesn't this seem like a.
Speaker 2 (51:05):
Weird hill to die on foreign aid in public broadcasting?
It is so revealing that what matters most to Capitol
Hill democrats is giving a money away to other countries
and making sure they have their favorite segment on NPR uncanceled.
Speaker 1 (51:20):
We wanted to find out what's driving these negotiations.
Speaker 2 (51:24):
Joining us now is Tennessee Congressman Andy Ogles. So, Congressman Ogles,
how are you seeing this government funding battle playing out?
Speaker 1 (51:31):
Well? To be determined?
Speaker 6 (51:33):
I mean, obviously we're bumping up against the deadline. There's
not enough time to get all the appropriations bills done,
So the question is do you do a short term
continuing resolution or do a longer term continued resolution. But
it'll be interesting to see what kind of the Senate
is willing to digest or accept, because the Democrats over
there are going to have to vote for something otherwise
(51:54):
they'll be the ones responsible for a shutdown. So stay
tuned to be determined. Now that being said, we should
have passed all twelve appropriations bills and be done with this,
but here we are once again having to pass a
stop gap measure to find the government.
Speaker 2 (52:10):
We've heard the argument from Congressmanship Roy on this program
that a longer term continuing Resolution actually stops the type
of big monstrosity omnibus bill that I know you fought
against in Congress, I used to fight against in Congress.
Are you buying that argument that maybe a longer term
CR actually plays defense against some of the worst features
(52:31):
of the swamp.
Speaker 1 (52:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (52:33):
I mean part of the issue is if you do
some sort of CR into December, then you end up
with this Christmas just omni That is disastrous because people
want to go home, they want to get back to
their districts. And so if you're going to do a
short term CR, you've got to get past December thirty. First,
you've got to take it into next year. Now, there's
some conversation about doing a year long CR, which triggers
(52:56):
some automatic cuts and then but the problem with that
is is that they then can become a vehicle for
some of these community development projects, which opens the door
for more pork. And so there's pros and cons of both.
At the end of the day, I think what I want,
what you would want if you were a member of Congress,
what the American people want is not another Omnimus bill
(53:16):
that wastes a bunch of money right at Christmas time. Look,
I'm willing to stay here. I have kids. I don't
want to have to stay here during Christmas. But if
it means cutting spending and doing the right thing, then
that's the job we signed up for.
Speaker 2 (53:29):
Yeah, when you say community development projects, that's just code
for earmarks. That's just using the legislative process to buy
votes to get what you need to get. But any
government funding built will still take sixty votes in the Senate.
And as we look at what's going on in the
Democratic Party right now, they're all over the place, and
it seems that the base of the Democrat Party is
(53:51):
responding to the politicians that have the most reactive spasms
to whatever President Trump is doing or whatever the state
of Texas is doing. So are you pairing for Chuck
Schumer to try to hold government funding hostage for NPR
or for a restoration of foreign aid or any of
the priorities that they've been talking about.
Speaker 6 (54:12):
Well, I can't, you know, speak for the Senate, but
in the House, you know it's it's no negotiable for us.
We have a job to do and we're going to
push forward the speakers on board with, you know, doing
some sort of which you would call a quote unquote
clean cr. It's a CR. Nothing's really clean. But that
being said, making it is trim is functionally possible, and
(54:33):
then putting it over there in the Senate. Now, when
you look at the last the last kind of quote
unquote shutdown, Schumer only allowed the government to be shut
down before for a few hours before he came. So
I'm not sure the Democrats really have the stomach to
be responsible for a government shut down going into the
holidays and of course the midterm.
Speaker 1 (54:52):
So you have a congressman.
Speaker 2 (54:53):
When he did that, frankly, yeah, but hold on, when
he did that, he got hammered by his base. I
actually think Schumer or miscalculated that because he did capitulate,
he did keep the government open, but then the other
side of the side just went crazy with him, and
he became the focal point.
Speaker 1 (55:09):
Of all of the frustration. And I are that.
Speaker 2 (55:11):
I guess like Democrats haven't stormed the Capitol yet or something,
and so I actually think that they'll try something, and
I don't know what issue it will be on. I
don't know what sacred cow they will try to restore.
But I'm sensing some type of a game from Schumer,
and it is telling and it is helpful that you're saying.
On the House side, the general philosophy is, let's keep
(55:32):
the government open. Let's trust President Trump's cabinet and his
team members to do the right thing with the authority
and the discretion they have. I mean, is that fundamentally
the Republican position.
Speaker 5 (55:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (55:44):
Absolutely.
Speaker 6 (55:44):
But what I will say about Schumer is, you know,
those that got upset were the radical left, and I
think Schumer's approach is a little more moderate in that
he understands his own members. They're going to lose seats
in the Senate, and he's hearing from those members that
if shut this down, you're putting out, you know, more
seats potential in play for the Republicans, and so he's
(56:06):
got to fight that battle.
Speaker 4 (56:07):
That's his problem, not ours.
Speaker 6 (56:09):
And at the end of the day, if they want
to play games, they can own the shutdown.
Speaker 1 (56:12):
You know, the American people are.
Speaker 6 (56:13):
Tired of this craft in the same way they're tired.
Speaker 1 (56:15):
With crime in the streets.
Speaker 4 (56:16):
Right They've had enough.
Speaker 6 (56:17):
They want a president, they want real leadership, and it's
signed for the House, Republicans to do the job. Put
fordicipending plan that honors our promises we've been making to
the American people. And if Democrats want want to shut
down the government, then let them own it.
Speaker 2 (56:30):
Yeah, let's get into that work that's happening, to clean
up DC, to clean up our cities. You've got some
legislation to have Trump's back on some of the moves
he's making in the District of Columbia.
Speaker 1 (56:40):
Tell us about it.
Speaker 6 (56:42):
Well, so myself, we have the Bowser Act, which is
actually named after the mayor, but I have it in
the House, Mike Lee has it in the Senate, which
would remove home rule from the city council and the
mayor of DC. They'd done a horrible job that they
were given home rule back in the seventies, which allowed
them to to elect a city council and a mayor,
(57:02):
and they've done nothing but horrible work since that time.
And so what we would do is restore the constitutional
principle where Congress would run Washington, d C. It's not
a city, it's not a state, and put it back
under our jurisdiction. And President Trump has proven that you
can have law and order even in a city like Washington,
d C. Where you've had two members of Congress muggs,
(57:25):
you had a staffer stabbed, you had an intern murdered,
you had the young man from Dose Big Balls almost
beat to death, and in a matter of two short weeks,
we've got no murders. You know, crime has been cut
in half. Carjackings are down eighty six percent. And what
that tells you is if you're a mayor in Chicago
or New York or Memphis, one of these cities that
are crime written, you better get your act together because
(57:47):
there is a way to secure this country and it's
not by coddling criminals.
Speaker 2 (57:51):
Tennessee Congressman Andy Ogle's one of President Trump's top backers
on Capitol Hill. We appreciate you coming on the program
and letting us into those important negotiations. We hope you
gave as much money.
Speaker 1 (58:00):
As you can.
Speaker 4 (58:02):
Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 9 (58:02):
Care.
Speaker 2 (58:03):
That's all the time we have. We'll be back tomorrow,
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