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Speaker 1 (00:00):
In Michigan, an LDS Christian church was attacked and set
on fire. For our dead, others are injured. We've got
the latest with State Senator Eric Nesbitt on the ground
in Michigan, and the FBI has just revealed admissions about
January sixth.
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The show I was right all along.
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We'll do a deep dive into the evidence with the
former leader of the Proud Boys who was pardoned by
President Trump. The Trump Van's administration has unveiled their plan
for peace in Gaza.
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Foreign policy expert Gordon Chang.
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Is here to break it down, and we'll explain why
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Speaker 1 (00:47):
As we join you this evening, there is a realization
setting in for many Americans. January sixth, twenty twenty one,
the day Democrats used to target censor and jail MAGA
had a lot more federal involvement than many previously knew.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Two hundred and seventy four.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
That's the number of plane closed agents on the Capitol
grounds that day, two.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Hundred and seventy four.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Think about it, two seventy four plane closed agents is
more than double the number of Capitol police officers normally
assigned to protect the entire Capital complex.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
On a given shift.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Two hundred and seventy four is more than the entire
police force of Alexandria, Virginia. Two hundred and seventy more
four is more than the number of active duty personnel
on an entire Navy destroyer. It's more than three companies
of armory infantry soldiers.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Two hundred and.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Seventy four is more than the average graduating class at
the FBI Academy. PBS news is typically less reliable than
your daily horoscope. When the Department of Justice Office of
Inspector General reported that there were a couple dozen confidential
human sources involved in January sixth, but no undercover FBI
agents were present, they took that occasion to call people
(01:54):
like me conspiracy theorists. But based on what we've learned now,
the word under cover was doing a heck of a
lot of work. Because the FBI didn't consider plane closed agents,
undercover agents.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Just think about that.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
The people protesting on January sixth were plain people wearing
plain clothes. To say that plain closed agents weren't undercover
agents is a deceptive sleight of hand by the Department
of Justice, It's Inspector General Michael Horowitz, and anyone.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Else who adopted that theory.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
FBI Director Cash Mattel is now saying his predecessor, Christopher
Ray lied to Congress on the subject. Here's Arizona Congressman
Andy Biggs asking a direct question and getting a deceptive response.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
If not, I heard you say you didn't know whether
there were FBI agents or informants or human sources in
the capital or in the in vicinity on January sixth?
Did I misunderstand you? I thought that's what you say.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
I referred very specifically to undercover agents.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Yeah, and so are you acknowledging then there were undercover agents?
Speaker 7 (03:00):
As I say here right now, I do not believe
there were undercover agents.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
President Trump has weighed in on truth social quote.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
FBI agents were at and in the January sixth protests,
probably acting as agitators and insurrectionists, but certainly not as
law enforcement officials. I want to know who each and
every one of these so called agents are and what
they were up to on.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
That now historic day.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Many great American patriots were made to pay a very
big price only for the love of their country. I
owe this investigation of dirty cops and crooked politicians to them.
Christopher Ray, the then FBI director, has some major explaining
to do. Race predecessor James Comey has been indicted for
lying to Congress. Could Christopher Ray be the next to
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be indicted? The FBI directorship may soon look a lot
like the Illinois governorship. When a Democrat leaves or someone
associated with them, at least they get indicted. We don't
think that'll happen to Cash. One year after January sixth,
twenty twenty one, Marjor Taylor Green and I explained to
the country that this wasn't an insurrection.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
If anything, it was a FED surrection.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
January sixth last year wasn't an insurrection. No one has
been charged with insurrection, no one has been charged with treason.
But it they very well may have been a FED surrection.
Speaker 8 (04:14):
Here at the Capital security breach. We don't know how
many federal informants, FBI agents, agents of people and other agencies.
We don't know those numbers because we have a January
sixth committee that is unwilling and refusing to ask those
serious questions.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
So we were saying these things January sixth, twenty twenty two,
and when we made these claims, all of which we
now know to be true, we were viciously attacked by,
of all people, self proclaimed ethics watchdogs, the Citizens' Responsibility
and Ethics in Washington castigated those of US who alleged
strong federal involvement in January sixth. They too said it
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was a conspiracy, but I knew it wasn't because I
had taken the deposition of George Hill, a former Boston
FBI agent. He saw a evidence from the Washington Field
office and was told they wouldn't give it to them
because their agents and confidential human sources would be exposed.
Speaker 9 (05:07):
The SSA for CT two said, happy to do it.
Show us where they were inside the capital and we'll
look into it, to which WFO said, we can't show
you those videos unless you can tell us the exact
time and place those individuals were inside the capital, to
which the SSA responded back. And I was privy to
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these conversations firsthand, why can't you show us, why can't
you just send us give us access to the eleven
thousand hours of video of this example that's available, because
there may be may be UC's undercover officers or chs's
confidential human for confidential human sources on those videos whose
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identity we need to protect.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
After hearing that testimony, there was never a question in
my mind whether the FBI had a voluminous presence on
January six The question is whether those FBI agents and
assets increased the criminal activity on that day to ensnare others.
The Epic Times has done some reporting on a video
we've paid close attention to. The person you'll see with
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face coverings was never arrested, never charged. Some people are
asking whether he was one of those FBI plane closed
agents not undercover of course right watching aside.
Speaker 10 (06:26):
You guys, don't blo.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Rather the original.
Speaker 11 (06:46):
Do not go in there.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Here to discussed.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Two people who I think are going to have an
opinion on the subject to parton j sixers and Rique
Tarrio and Alex Shepard. Enrique, you once led the Proud Boys.
We now know that your formal organization had been infiltrated
with confidential human sources for the FBI. You spend time
in prison prior to being pardoned by President Trump. What's
your reaction to the news that two hundred and seventy
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four FBI agents were in plain clothes on the grounds
on January sixth.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
I'd be lying to you if I had told you
that I was surprised.
Speaker 12 (07:47):
Buy it, Matt. We saw it in our trial. We
saw it day in, day out in our trial. As
a matter of fact, the prosecutors never brought any of
those informants because they all said the same thing that
we didn't plan anything. Another matter of factly is we
brought in one of their own informants to testify for
(08:08):
the defense, and in doing that, we found out that
this person was an FBI asset for fifteen years, paid
asset by the FBI, and he is part of a
major breach that happened. He put a podium under a
rolling aluminum door. We didn't find that out until trial.
So it doesn't surprise me to find out that there's
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two hundred and seventy four FBI agents that were on
the ground that Day's that's old news for us.
Speaker 13 (08:38):
New news.
Speaker 6 (08:38):
I guess for the public.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Well, what you just said about them increasing the criminal
acuity is very interesting, and I want to get back
to that in a moment.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
But Alex.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
FBI Director Christopher Ray said that there weren't any undercover agents.
Now we learned there were plane closed agents. That seems
like a very flimsy distinction to me. Do you agree
with cash Ptel that direct lied to Congress?
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Well, absolutely, I agree that he lied to Congress. It
started with him saying that we had no undercover FBI agents.
Then a couple of years ago he switched it to well,
we might have had twenty or something, and now it's
two hundred and seventy five. So what I want to
know is the FBI is just one agency. So were
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they working with Antifa? I think they were. How many
DHS agents and other government agencies from our government or
another government? How many of them were there? So absolutely
he lied one hundred and ten percent.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Enrique, you know you mentioned this evidence that came out
in your trial where one of the FBI's assets could
have been breaking the law. Do you think there are
other cases where these two hundred and seventy four people
were actually increasing the amount of criminal activity happening on
that day.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
Matt, I don't. It's not that I believe that he
was breaking the law.
Speaker 12 (09:59):
He admitted to break the law while he was on
the stand, and for those watching on Twitter, you could
search his name as FBI informant Aaron. He was part,
like I said, part of a major breach. And I
think there's going to be a lot more that we're
going to find out. We had to pull teeth, Matt.
We had to pull teeth to find these these FBI
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assets and agents in our case because the prosecutors were
not giving us that information. The judge instructed them three
times to h to release these names of these people,
and they didn't. And even after the trial agreed.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
You say, you were pulling teeth as a criminal accused,
and you're supposed to get all the benefit of due
process as a criminal accused. As a congressman, I couldn't
get them to tell the truth. Andy Biggs couldn't get
them to tell the truth. And so, Enrique, what do
you think should be the punishment for the people who
were so deceptive about this for so long?
Speaker 12 (10:55):
Well, my JA six brother here says that Christopher Ray lied.
I'd like to use the word perjured himself. He perjured
himself consistently over and over again to members of Congress,
to yourself, and to the American people. To be quite honest,
I think that we need to start seeing. We need
to start seeing. And I'm very happy that Comy has
(11:18):
been arrested. He lied to Congress. But we're going to see.
We should see Christopher Ray and many others get hit
for the same thing.
Speaker 6 (11:27):
I mean, if you want to if you want to
talk about.
Speaker 12 (11:32):
Obstructing Congress, you got Merrik Garland that was referred to
the DOJ for the same thing that Bannon did.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Now, very very good point, Alex. You talked about some
of your lingering questions here. You know what else do
you think folks that are trying to find the truth
should be looking at? So you mentioned connections to left
wing groups, but even connections to other components of other
intelligence entities seem to be of great interest.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Well, it's funny you mentioned that because the federal agent
who is disguised as a reporter, Scott McFarlane, he's been
all around d C. And he just made a video
today which I've been wanting to respond to. He's got
me blocked on Twitter. But basically he is saying that
it's all conspiracy theories that these two hundred and seventy
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five agents were there as a response to the crowd
and they were there to help out because the crowd
was so riotous and all these things. That's obviously not true.
They were the ones breaking windows, they were the ones
pushing past each of the breach points, you know, and
they were also the ones to tell the Capitol police
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to back off and to let them through. So, you know,
Scott McFarlane then closed the video out by saying, well,
you know, we do still need answers on who planted
the pipe bombs and who built the gallows outside of
the you know, the gallows outside of the Capitol. And
you know, he basically debunked himself there because I don't
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know who do you think it is. I've got a
pretty good idea of who built the gallows outside of
the Capitol.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
I certainly think when it relates to the pipe bomb,
we every time we looked further into the pipe bomb,
there was like another interesting connection to the government, whether
it was how it was found, whether it was who
was in the building, whether it was the sweeps the
tracking of that individual. It was very suspicious and I
still don't think we have those answers at all. Enrique
zooming out just a moment here, Like in the weeks
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and months after January sixth, the whole of federal government
used that event to try to make the rest of
the world afraid of MAGA, to make the world think that,
like the Proud Boys sought the overthrow of the US
government by violent force. What do you think are some
of the most important things right now to correct and
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demystify as we're learning about the extensive FBI involvement in
that day.
Speaker 12 (13:58):
Look, it's pretty easy, and we showed this in court.
The Proud Boys or the Oathkeepers, their plan was not
to overthrow the United States government. If that was anybody's plan,
it was a dumb plan because that's that's that wouldn't
have accomplished anything of the sort.
Speaker 6 (14:14):
So and that that FBI agent I got his name,
His name is James Knowles. For those that want to.
Speaker 12 (14:20):
Search and then moving forward, what we need to see
is is accountability. You know, I say retribution and retaliation.
Speaker 6 (14:27):
And what does that look like.
Speaker 12 (14:28):
No, it doesn't look like any violence, not violence that
we've seen like from the left, it means justice. We
want our government to work. We want I want to
feel good about my institutions. I want to feel like
like confident that that this isn't going to happen again,
you know. And the only way that we could do
this is hold those people that did this accountable. Take
those names out that James Knowles, the Christopher Rays, the
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Merrick Garlands.
Speaker 13 (14:53):
Uh.
Speaker 12 (14:54):
That's the only way we're going to fix this, matt Is,
is accountability through because if they take power, if they
steal the election again, this is gonna happen again.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Well, Alex, no, I get the concern about that institutional rot,
and it seemed to be what President Trump was talking
about when he put out his social media post he
talked about you guys. He was saying that there were
patriots who didn't mean to break the law but were
ensnared in this day, and that he felt like he
owed it to you to find out who those people
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were and to find out every single thing they were
doing that day. Alex, does it give you some sense
of confidence that we actually will be able to do
what Enrique is calling for and get that accountability with
such a precise focus from President Trump.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Well, yeah, I greatly appreciated the message from President Trump
that he posted a couple of days alluding to that.
The thing is, we need accountability, we need retribution the
people involved in these prosecutions when they knew they had
no evidence. I'm talking about the DOJ lawyers. I'm talking
about the FBI agent who are entrapping people and raiding
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our houses in the middle of the night, middle of
the morning.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
How about the public defenders that walked people into pleas
that they never should have taken.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Oh yeah, there were a lot of public defenders who
were definitely pushing plea deals. I knew the public defenders
were bad when this one lady represented thirty or forty
different January sixth defendants and then she goes out and
makes a statement about how Trump's an idiot, and it
was after we were pardoned. Well, she was upset that
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we were pardoned.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
You know that there were so many cases of this.
It's so unfortunate.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
But I am glad that President Trump is showing that focus,
and it seems like it seems like the rest of
the country is waking up to what you were put through.
And we hope that it never happens again. Alex Shepard
and Riquetario, thanks for joining me on the program and
chopping it up.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
And coming up, we will cover this tragic attack on
a Michigan church, an LDS church. There was shooting, there
was fire. We'll go to a state senate Republican leader
to describe what's happening next.
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Tonight, police searching for those missing after a deadly attack
at a Michigan church. The suspect rammed to pick up
truck through the front door, got out, and started shooting.
Speaker 12 (19:31):
I can confirm at this time that the FBI is
now leading the investigation and is investigating this as an
act of targeted violence.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
The mass shooting and fire occurred yesterday at the Church
of Jesus Christ Laturday Saints in Grand Blanc Township, Michigan,
during a Sunday service. The attacker rammed this vehicle into
the church, opened fire on worshippers inside, and then set
the building a blaze.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Using gasoline or some accelerant.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
He was killed by law enforcement in a shootout at
the scene, roughly with him and eight minutes of the
attacks beginning. Four were killed, eight were wounded. Some of
the deceased were found in the remains of the church,
indicating they may have.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Been trapped by the fire.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Officials believe explosive devices were involved, though it's not clear which,
if any, were detonated. The suspect is Thomas Jacob Sanford,
aged forty, from Burton, Michigan. Authorities are treating this as
a targeted act of violence. It's not clear what the
motive is. Investigators are searching as residents, devices and connections
for clues. Joining us now is Michigan Senate Majority leader
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and the Republican candidate for governor of Michigan Areic Nesbit,
Leader Nesbit.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
How are people doing in Grand Blanc?
Speaker 13 (20:38):
Well, my heart breaks for the victims and their families
and just the entire community in Grand Blanc. Folks showed
up to a church service yesterday morning to worship God
and practiced their faith, and instead a crazy person, a gunman,
drove into the church in open fire and set fire
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to it. And this goes down to really an issue
around the country that I think President Trump's really taking
a leadership to. We've seen real progress and securing our
borders and cracking down on crime in Michigan. I'm going
to align with his focus on focusing on tough on
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crime policies that hold criminals accountable and making sure that
joining where President Trump is how understanding how important it
is that he's signed executive orders on taking action on
the mental illness that we've seen ravaging this country. But
this is just unforgivable and unforgettable on what's happened. And
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I just want to thank local law enforcement and the
federal leadership that we've seen from the FBI as they
continue to work with local law enforcement to figure out
and connect all those dots.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
When we look at events like this and how much
damage can be done in such a short period of time.
We were taken by the fact that from beginning to end,
this was about eight minutes. What's your assessment of the
local law enforcement response in Michigan.
Speaker 13 (22:08):
Well, I'm incredibly grateful for the quick response by a
local department Natural resource officer and local law enforcement that
swiftly brought this nightmare to an end within mere minutes.
And I'm thankful for the immediate support that was offered
by President Trump and his FBI along with the Attorney
General Bondi and FBI Director Patel. You saw the real
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difference in terms of the elementary school in Texas where
they didn't go in, they didn't have quick action. And unfortunately,
with these mental health issues around the country that we're
seeing more and more in Michigan where I have friends
and neighbors that are getting permission from their pastors and
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to be able to carry in churches to make sure
that folks are protected as they worship. We saw one
in Wayne County where peopleeople were attacked and there was
quick action by those that were caring to take down
that evil person there in western Winne County just a
few months ago.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
The LDS community is a tight knit community, good people
in my experience, do they feel as though they were
targeted for their religious beliefs at this time.
Speaker 13 (23:21):
Well, we're seeing people time after time, Christians, those that
practice their faith as they see fit in our own
First Amendment right. So it's freedom of religions under there.
And just as we saw with Charlie Kirk just a
few weeks ago, shot down as an assassin's bullet at
Utah Valley, that we're seeing these kind of attacks not
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just against our faith community, but against free speech in general.
We're celebrating tw hundred and fifty years a country next year,
and I think it's important to understand that the bedrock
of our democratic republic are constitutionals, our First and Second
Amendment rights that are in our Bill of Rights, and
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they both go hand in hand making sure that we're
able to debate these issues and also making sure we're
able to defend our families and our livelihoods. And you're
right that this is the beauty of America, is being
able to defend our freedoms and practice our faiths as
we see fit. And I can only understand, I can
only imagine how shaken that community. The Mormon community is
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in the Genesee County area and It's something where we're
just going to have to fight harder and harder to
make sure that we're protecting our First and Second Amendment
rights and we protect our Bill of Rights, to make
sure that as we go in to celebrate to two
hundred and fifty years of the country, that we can
defend all of our constitutional rights and protect our people.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
No, no question, you've mentioned mental health as something that
would be a focus of yours if you were to
become governor of Michigan. What do you think Michigan's getting
wrong now about mental health?
Speaker 2 (24:59):
What can you improve as governor?
Speaker 13 (25:01):
Well, unfortunately, as I talked to sheriffs around our state
that the largest, one of the largest mental health institution
in every one of our counties is unfortunately our jail.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
That needs to stop.
Speaker 13 (25:14):
And thirty years ago when they shut down state institutions,
I think President Trump is right that they need to
be reopened. And thankfully President Trump understands how important this
issue is and I'm glad that he's taken action to
address this by signing recent executive orders. They need somebody
to stand with President Trump that I'll do to expand
in voluntary commitments to psychiatricist facilities, and we can't allow
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dangerous and deranged people that are a threat to themselves
or a threat to others to Rome streets. It helps
nobody and it makes everyone less safe. So we need
to join with law enforcement to make sure that we
don't have some of these woke left winging policies that
allow for cashless bond or they drop them off at
a mental institution. And I had just had a sheriff
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last week I was meeting with this says, I drop
them off someplace and they beat us home.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Well, you got to be able to do better than that,
and I'm sure that will in order the benefit of
all Michiganders. Arek Nesbitt, the state Senate majority leader and
current Republican candidate for governor of Michigan. Thanks for joining
me in our condolences to everybody in your state.
Speaker 13 (26:18):
Thanks man, thanks for covering this.
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Speaker 1 (29:35):
We return to our coverage of the war in Gaza,
and there's breaking news. President Trump has published a twenty
one point plan aimed at ending the conflict.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Here are some key elements.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
A ceasefire in return of all Israeli hostages, dead or alive.
This would be part of a prisoner swap that would
also include the return of hundreds of Palestinians we're currently
held by Israel. Israel would gradually withdraw forces from Gaza
if certain security conditions are met. International or regional Stabilization
force of Arab countries would be established to maintain security.
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The Transitional Authority of mostly Arab countries would temporarily administer
Gaza until local governance led by the Palestinians is viable.
The plan expects Hamas to be disarmed, its authority dismantled.
In some reports, Hamas leaders may be granted safe passage
or immunity if they cease hostilities and release the hostages.
Trump is asserted that he will not allow Israel to
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formally annex Judea and Samaria under this plan. The plan
calls for halting Israeli military actions against Qatar. That's something
the Katari ambassador told us on this program he believed
Trump would deliver.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
Someone is really official said that they will do this again.
Speaker 11 (30:43):
But we are very grateful for the president who said
that this will never happen again, and he gave us
this guarantee. So I think we are confident when the
US president tell us that this is not going to
happen again, and we appreciate his friendship and his support
to this.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Sounds like a good plan to us return the hostages,
stop the killing, established peace with stakeholders who can.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Enforce that piece.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
So how is the israel first crowd in America reacting
to President Trump's strong effort?
Speaker 11 (31:13):
No other country in the world, none, He's going to
tell Israel what to do, how to defend itself and
its people.
Speaker 6 (31:21):
Period.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
That was just yesterday.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Who do you think Mark Levin, the Fox News host
is talking about? Well, who better than Levin himself to
give some clarity. He had a melt down on x
over the weekend. On Friday, he was aghast at President
Trump's Gaza deal. He was opposed to the announcement on
truth social He was asking if Israel had been informed
or was participating. Does Mark Levin know what happened to
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the last guys who tried to negotiate with Netniyahu.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
I'll give you a hint. They got bombs dropped on
their homes in Doha.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Ordering the launch of bombs paid for by American taxpayers
is easy. What's hard is peace. That's what President Trump
is trying to forge. And in these serious times, this
is what you get from Mark Levin.
Speaker 15 (32:05):
Hamas sounds like a food man past the Hamas.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Yesterday, Mark Levin wrongly criticized President Trump quote, our country
cannot dictate to Israel that it can never recognize the
literal birthplace of Judaism as Israel's Levin said. He followed
up by saying no to a Palestinian state, as if
he were one of Israel's negotiators. Levin also posted his
Daily Telegraph from Tel Aviv quote, the Israeli PM.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Is not going to buckle to you.
Speaker 12 (32:33):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
We've long positive the theory on this program that BB Netnyah,
who doesn't want peace. Maybe one of the reasons he
bombed Qatar is because some of the Hamas leaders had
indicated a willingness to sign this exact plan at the
demand of President Trump. One way to avoid a peace
agreement is to execute the people who might sign it.
But we bet on the Trump Vance administration over the
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desires of Net Nyahu to keep the Middle East soaked
and chaos and violence and blood. It's clear that the
Nah Yahoo government has some desire to control the message.
BB assembled US influencers to tell them that social media
is the most important weapon.
Speaker 15 (33:12):
We have to fight with the weapons that applied to
the battlefields in which one gains, and the most important
ones are social media.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
In other news, oracle head Larry Ellison has led the
team that will be purchasing TikTok. Larry Ellison is the
single largest donor to the Israeli Defense forces in America.
When we saw BB's government express desire to control social media,
followed by BB briefing social media influencers, followed by the
largest donor to the I v F buying TikTok. We
thought back to this clip net Yahoo says Americans are
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easily manipulated, can move absolutely. Meanwhile, Tucker Carlson is reporting
(34:04):
that BB is feeling rather bullish about thwarting the Trump
vance administration's peace agenda.
Speaker 6 (34:10):
I mean BB's running around.
Speaker 14 (34:11):
This is a fact.
Speaker 7 (34:12):
I'm not guessing about this because I talked to people
who said it to is running around the Middle East,
his region, in his own country and telling people point blank,
just stating it.
Speaker 6 (34:20):
I control the United States, I control Donald Trump. He's
saying that.
Speaker 7 (34:23):
And again, I'm not guessing at all. That's a fact,
And I dare them to say that's not true, because
it is true and they know it's true.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Here with us to discuss.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
As geopolitical strategist and author of China Is Going to
War Gordon Chang Gordon. President Trump has put out his
plan for peace in Gaza. It seems to make everyone
a little uncomfortable, which is probably necessary for any deal
in the Middle East.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
What do you make of it?
Speaker 10 (34:47):
I think it has real chance of working. I mean
it's the twenty point piece plan Hummas right now is decimated,
which means it has a lot of incentive to do
a deal. Now, of course, this is the Middle East,
which means lodge it doesn't apply. But I do believe
that the stars are aligned, especially because Israel wants to
do this. I think Kamas should want to do this,
(35:09):
and President Trump is going to use all of his
persuasive powers to make sure it happens. So yeah, I
think it probably will.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
I wonder if it makes things more challenging that Israel
launched bombs into Qatar. I have the Katari ambassador on
my program recently and he questioned whether or not net
Yahoo could even be trusted to make a deal.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Take a listen and we'll get your reaction.
Speaker 6 (35:34):
Since the last.
Speaker 11 (35:36):
Strike that Natanill and his government conducted go Katar, we
really don't see that they are sincere about having pieces
of talks or negotiations. Until we see some concrete actions
that they are really genuine about finding a solution, finding
an agreement, I don't think we will be able to
do anything.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
So Gordon, how does President Trump rebuild this trust that
looks like it was shattered?
Speaker 10 (36:01):
Well, he made a good start today because he had
that trilateral phone call and net and Yahoo actually apologized
to Qatar's Prime minister, the emer and I think that
was a good start. Now there's a couple of things
going on here, and that is in Doha, the Hamas
leadership hangs out and so Qatar has been giving them
(36:24):
refuge and that is wrong.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
But hold on Gordon.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
They were asked to by the Americans and the Israelis,
I mean, the Israelis asked Katar in a writing to
fund HIMASA the tune of thirty million dollars a month.
I don't know if that's a good decision or a
bad one, but it seems seems hardly a thing to
blame Qatar for.
Speaker 10 (36:42):
Yeah, I mean, I can understand that, but for a
long time Hamas has used that as a refuge. The
thing that's important here is that President Trump really saw
that this was important. That the September ninth strike really
angered the people not only in that Gulf state but
throughout the golf and that just enngraged the region, and
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so President Trump realized there had to be an apology.
Now they may not accept that apology, but at least
today the Prime Minister did say that he was going
to accept it, So that's a good sign at least,
you know, we're on one step at a time. That so, yeah,
President Trump's doing a great job.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Yeah, it does seem like you kind of have to
align these pieces in order to get the ecosystem ready
for peace. One key provision that a lot of people
are talking about is that Israel will not agree to
annex Judea and Samaria. Is that going to be a
problem for them to agree to or is that a
good way to get this thing done.
Speaker 6 (37:43):
Well?
Speaker 10 (37:44):
Inside Israel, that will be a problem because members of
Netnahu's support group in coalition, they very much to you know,
want that annexation. But that is something that I think
that you know, you look around the world, that's something
that Israel shouldn't do at this time. I know that
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that's controversial, but that would inflame opinion at some point.
I think that the Palestinians have got to come to
terms and that we will see something better, and that
we will see, for instance, Western states no longer recognize
the Palestinian state, which of course does not exist. So
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maybe both sides can sort of climb down a little bit,
and that would be a good thing at this point.
You know, that's what President Trump wants. He wants to
make sure that he can reduce the temperature. So there
is at least the possibility of a deal. And if
anybody can do this deal, it's going to be the
president of the United States.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
One of the big features also is this hostage exchange.
Israel has hundreds of Palestinians that would be released under
the plan. Of course, we want to see all of
those Israeli hostages released, whether they're currently living or not, frankly,
back to their families.
Speaker 10 (38:59):
What do you make of those terms, Well, that's one
nine hundred and fifty Palestinians being released for hostages with
far fewer numbers. So Hamas has got to like that.
This is I think the problem here is that although
the people who are going to be released are going
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to have to make some sort of statement that they
have stained from terror, you know, of course they're not
going to do that.
Speaker 6 (39:27):
So I worry about.
Speaker 10 (39:28):
Hamas being able to reconstitute itself with the people who.
Speaker 6 (39:32):
Are going to be released.
Speaker 10 (39:34):
But it's part of the Trump peace plans, so you
know it's something that Israel doesn't like. It's something I
don't like, but it's something probably that's necessary. And one thing,
Matt that is really good aspect of this deal is
that I think Trump will pave the way for a
number of the Gulf states to sign Abraham Accords, including
Qatar itself.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Oh, we would love to see that as well. A
final question for you, Gordon, what is the timeline you're
watching here? Is something that can go quickly or are
we going to have to be patient as all of
the different factions get together and see what they can
agree to.
Speaker 10 (40:07):
I wish I knew the answer to that question. Everyone
wants to see it quick Hamas has every reason to
do that, so does Israel. But as I said, you know,
it's the Middle East, so logic goes out the window.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Well, what a cliffhanger, Gordon Chang, foreign policy expert. We
appreciate you coming on and breaking down the key futures
of the deal.
Speaker 10 (40:26):
Well, thank you so much, Matt, and stay safe.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Yes, thank you you as well. And Mayor Adams has
dropped out of the race to continue as Mayor of
New York. Kevin Smith, if the lad majority is here
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Speaker 16 (43:00):
Despite all we've achieved, I cannot continue my re election campaign.
The constant media speculation about my future and the campaign
finance boys decision to with whole millions of dollars have
undermined my ability to raise the funds needed for a
(43:21):
serious campaign.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
New York City Mayor Eric Adams has just dropped out
of his own reelection campaign. That leaves socialists or on
Mom Donnie squared up against former New York State Governor
Andrew Cuomo. This might help Cuomo some in a coalition,
but we haven't exactly seen the Adams move as a
market changer on major betting platforms. Returning to the program
is the founder and host of Loud Majority Live, Kevin Smith.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
So, Kevin, I feel like every time we talk.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
It's like you wait twenty minutes in this race fundamentally changes.
Eric Adams is out, does it matter at all?
Speaker 15 (43:55):
I mean, look, this is the motivation that people are
going to need now that there are less candidates in
the race. Obviously one more has to drop out, whoever
that's going to be. It's gonna put pressure on Sliwa
or Cuomo to end up dropping out of this race
if they want to do what needs to be done
for New York City. And look, I don't know which
(44:17):
one it's going to be. It appears that Cuomo is
up in the polls, running a far second to Curtis.
He seems to be in this for the long haul.
But if one of them doesn't leave soon, there's going
to be a real problem. The big issue is that
Adams is still going to be on the ballot, so
dropping out.
Speaker 6 (44:34):
At this point is almost pointless. Unfortunately, what do you
think will be.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
The legacy of Eric Adams as mayor of New York City?
Speaker 15 (44:43):
I mean, he's probably going to go down as one
of the most hated mayors ever. He seems to be
hated by the right and by the left. He's hated
by the right for what he did for the first
three and a half years of his term, and he's
hated by the left for capitulating or as they're saying,
capitulating to the Trump administration in the last six months
of his term. But I really think that people are
going to look back on this as a sort of
(45:05):
uh as as the guy who gave us Jorhan Mandani
and uh, you know, I forgot who was its president
that was probably it was Buchanan. People look back as
the worst president ever, which gave us the greatest ever.
Speaker 6 (45:20):
So we'll see what happens.
Speaker 15 (45:21):
It's uh, it's it's it's not gonna be good.
Speaker 6 (45:24):
But we'll see if New York can rise from the
issues after this one.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
Now, there were some reports that Adams was very solicitous
of the Trump administration, potentially seeking a job, like, is
there a single job in the federal government did you
believe Eric Adams would be qualified to hold?
Speaker 15 (45:41):
Well, he seems to be very close with the Turkish embassy,
so maybe we can make him ambassador the Turkey UH
based funnel reports. He seems to be him and Erdawan
seemed to get along very well, so maybe we can uh,
maybe we can ship him off to Istanbul, you know.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
He he did present an interesting candidacy though, Kevin, in
that he said he wanted to make New York workable
for New Yorkers, right. The core message that he brought
to his initial campaign, you know, was that this would
be a place that people who had started businesses in
New York, had raised families in New York could enjoy.
(46:15):
And then he embraced the sanctuary policies, brought in the
illegals and didn't really back the police. Is Eric Adams
ultimately going to go down as a guy who was
just willing to say anything at whatever time was necessary
for personal advancement.
Speaker 15 (46:31):
Absolutely, And this is the sort of this is the
sort of neoliberal blob that people talk about all the time.
People that are willing to stick their finger in the
air and see which where the wind is blowing. They
have no principles at all, and because of that they
end up pissing off everybody because they believe in nothing,
because they hold firm and they stand for nothing.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
This is what happens when you.
Speaker 15 (46:52):
Elect somebody to be the mayor of New York City
who lives in Fort Lee, New Jersey. Somebody didn't really
care about the city, somebody that this was just a
stepping stone for him. And what's shocking is that when
he won, he was actually the most moderate one in
the race.
Speaker 6 (47:08):
Uh, four years ago.
Speaker 15 (47:09):
So now we see, uh, now we see what happens
when you elect people who have no morals, no values,
and who believe in nothing.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
We we looked at the betting odds as it related
to this change in the race with Adams leaving, and
it didn't really seem like there was a huge boost
for Cuomo. He got he got a little bit of
an improved chance, but not much of one. And you
see Mamdannie running on these policies like targeting white communities,
like literally targeting white communities for different tax policies and uh,
(47:40):
putting those folks in a pretty uncomfortable position. Do you
think Mam Donnie is going to lead to white flight
out of New York?
Speaker 6 (47:47):
Absolutely? They they are all.
Speaker 15 (47:49):
If you have, if you have the means to leave,
you're going to leave. I've got my Gulf of America
had on, considering most New Yorkers will be living there
relatively soon, right along the UH right along the Panandle
border down there in Florida, they're going to come out
to Long Island and they're going to move to west Chester.
Because if you're if you're someone of means, why would
you stay in a city that doesn't care about you
(48:11):
when you can move like three miles across the river
into Bergen County, New Jersey, Or you can move out
to your second home in Suffolk County, forty five minutes
outside of the city and take the train to work
every day.
Speaker 6 (48:22):
Why would you.
Speaker 15 (48:24):
I wouldn't blame people for leaving if they're going to
be persecuted for their skin color under this mayor, and
it seems like that's what he's going to do.
Speaker 14 (48:32):
You mentioned New Jersey. So I have to ask.
Speaker 1 (48:34):
We've got this pretty exciting coubernatorial campaign there going on
now with Mikey Cheryl having to ask some difficult questions
about stock trades, Jack Chittarelli looking more pro Trump and
more MAGA. Now, then during his first run, does Chittarelli
have a chance to upset Mikey Cheryl? Oh?
Speaker 6 (48:52):
Absolutely, I think so.
Speaker 15 (48:53):
He came pretty close last time against an incumbent governor
in Phil Murphy. Now he's obviously running it for an
open seat. But now they have the sort of ground
game in New Jersey that they didn't have last time,
with people like Mike Crispy and Scott Presler being on
the ground, out there doing the voter registration, doing the
get out the vote efforts. They really wasn't president in
twenty twenty one, whether it was COVID or whether it
(49:16):
was just not the infrastructure that was available yet the
amount of boots on the ground. I've been out in
New Jersey. I've braved three hours of traffic to go
and help them out as often as I can. But
we really want to see what's going to happen in
New Jersey because the New Jersey goes in twenty five.
I really believe that New York is New York State
is the next chip to fall in the red wave
(49:37):
in the northeast.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
Well, remember President Trump had that huge rally out in
New Jersey. It gave people a lot of hope. It
wasn't all that long ago. New Jersey's had Republican governors.
Now and then it could happen. It would dampen the
Democrats in the midterms in a very significant way. Kevin Smith,
the founder and host of Loud Majority Life, Thanks as
always for coming on, Thank you for having me and
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Speaker 1 (52:20):
Ever, last Friday, claim circulated online that the University of
Cincinnati not only tried to remove its turning point chapter,
but also try to charge them for space that they
had been using. Take a listen to former University of
Cincinnati student Olivia Krolzik.
Speaker 17 (52:40):
The University of Cincinnati has removed the Turning Point USA
chapter from their campus with no explanation as to why.
The president of the chapter has sent me the email
that they received and this is what it says. In
addition to no longer being an active registered student organization
at the university foreigner reason, they are now being charged
for the space Roun twelve four resident that they already
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had in place. And keep in mind this university has
a history of giving conservative students backlash. A couple of
years ago, I was failed at the University of Cincinnati
for using the term biological woman in a required DEI
course as a chemistry major.
Speaker 1 (53:14):
After that was posted, we learned there was more to
the story and that Turning Point indeed was welcomed at
the University of Cincinnati, and there appears to be a
lot of student interest. Political commentator and public speaker Olivia
Krolchik joins us. Now, so, Olivia tell us about the
status of Turning Point at Cincinnati.
Speaker 17 (53:30):
Yeah, it turns out that the Turning Point chapter is
not very welcome at the University of Cincinnati. Apparently for
the last four years they have not reregistered to be
a student organization. But up until now it wasn't a problem.
And I have personally been to about four of the
Turning Point USA Chapters events that they've had at the
school of the last four years, and it was never
an issue until now. And it seems that they are
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being targeted on campus.
Speaker 1 (53:54):
We hope they sorted out. The university is saying they're welcome,
but have to do the paperwork. Why do you think
access to Turning Point Chapters is important for college students?
Speaker 17 (54:03):
Oh my gosh, it's so important now more than ever
to have access to Turning Point because conservative students have
been looking at what's been happening on campuses to conservative
speakers like Charlie Kirk myself, even I was held hostage
in January by Antifa at a Turning Point USA event
in Washington in Seattle. So they're seeing these conservative speakers
going out voicing their opinions, their beliefs and getting attacked
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for it. So it's important now more than ever that
students recognize that we still have free speech in America,
especially on college campuses, because free speech and debate is
fundamental to academia.
Speaker 1 (54:36):
What are you seeing from young people and activism following
the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Is there more of a
willingness to engage or is it hardened people's positions on
their ideologies.
Speaker 17 (54:47):
I mean, I think it's absolutely inspired more people to
get involved. I think there's been eighty thousand, if not more,
requests to start turning point chapters across the entire nation,
which is incredible. But aside from just starting chapters acros,
what's been the most incredible is that there have been hundreds,
if not thousands of people who reached out to me
saying I went to church for the first time, I
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bought my first Bible, I prayed the Rosary for the
first time. All these people are turning to faith, and
we are one nation under God and faith is what
has been lacking for so long. So it's incredible to
see not only just young people in my generation, but
of all ages turning to faith for the first time
in their life.
Speaker 1 (55:23):
That would have been so welcome to Charlie Kirk to
know that it wasn't just about politics, but this drew
people to something more. And I do believe that more
folks might pass by a Turning Point chapter be interested
in what's happening on a college tour. Now, as a
consequence of all the attention this has gotten.
Speaker 2 (55:40):
What do you think keeps people there?
Speaker 1 (55:42):
You know, it's one thing for people to show interest
and show up at a Turning Point chapter. What's the
type of thing that engages students to say I want
to be involved in this effort in a durable, ongoing way.
Speaker 17 (55:54):
They're allowed to disagree on topics while still being part
of Turning Point, while still being part of the conserv party.
I for one, I love Turning Point, have always supported
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In Michigan, an LDS Christian church was attacked and set
on fire. For our dead, others are injured. We've got
the latest with State Senator Eric Nesbitt on the ground
in Michigan, and the FBI has just revealed admissions about
January sixth.
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Speaker 1 (00:47):
As we join you this evening, there is a realization
setting in for many Americans. January sixth, twenty twenty one,
the day Democrats used to target censor and jail MAGA
had a lot more federal involvement than many previously knew.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Two hundred and seventy four.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
That's the number of plane closed agents on the Capitol
grounds that day, two.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Hundred and seventy four.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Think about it, two seventy four plane closed agents is
more than double the number of Capitol police officers normally
assigned to protect the entire Capital complex.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
On a given shift.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Two hundred and seventy four is more than the entire
police force of Alexandria, Virginia. Two hundred and seventy more
four is more than the number of active duty personnel
on an entire Navy destroyer. It's more than three companies
of armory infantry soldiers.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Two hundred and.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Seventy four is more than the average graduating class at
the FBI Academy. PBS news is typically less reliable than
your daily horoscope. When the Department of Justice Office of
Inspector General reported that there were a couple dozen confidential
human sources involved in January sixth, but no undercover FBI
agents were present, they took that occasion to call people
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like me conspiracy theorists. But based on what we've learned now,
the word under cover was doing a heck of a
lot of work. Because the FBI didn't consider plane closed agents,
undercover agents.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Just think about that.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
The people protesting on January sixth were plain people wearing
plain clothes. To say that plain closed agents weren't undercover
agents is a deceptive sleight of hand by the Department
of Justice, It's Inspector General Michael Horowitz, and anyone.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Else who adopted that theory.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
FBI Director Cash Mattel is now saying his predecessor, Christopher
Ray lied to Congress on the subject. Here's Arizona Congressman
Andy Biggs asking a direct question and getting a deceptive response.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
If not, I heard you say you didn't know whether
there were FBI agents or informants or human sources in
the capital or in the in vicinity on January sixth?
Did I misunderstand you? I thought that's what you say.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
I referred very specifically to undercover agents.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Yeah, and so are you acknowledging then there were undercover agents?
Speaker 7 (03:00):
As I say here right now, I do not believe
there were undercover agents.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
President Trump has weighed in on truth social quote.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
FBI agents were at and in the January sixth protests,
probably acting as agitators and insurrectionists, but certainly not as
law enforcement officials. I want to know who each and
every one of these so called agents are and what
they were up to on.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
That now historic day.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Many great American patriots were made to pay a very
big price only for the love of their country. I
owe this investigation of dirty cops and crooked politicians to them.
Christopher Ray, the then FBI director, has some major explaining
to do. Race predecessor James Comey has been indicted for
lying to Congress. Could Christopher Ray be the next to
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be indicted? The FBI directorship may soon look a lot
like the Illinois governorship. When a Democrat leaves or someone
associated with them, at least they get indicted. We don't
think that'll happen to Cash. One year after January sixth,
twenty twenty one, Marjor Taylor Green and I explained to
the country that this wasn't an insurrection.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
If anything, it was a FED surrection.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
January sixth last year wasn't an insurrection. No one has
been charged with insurrection, no one has been charged with treason.
But it they very well may have been a FED surrection.
Speaker 8 (04:14):
Here at the Capital security breach. We don't know how
many federal informants, FBI agents, agents of people and other agencies.
We don't know those numbers because we have a January
sixth committee that is unwilling and refusing to ask those
serious questions.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
So we were saying these things January sixth, twenty twenty two,
and when we made these claims, all of which we
now know to be true, we were viciously attacked by,
of all people, self proclaimed ethics watchdogs, the Citizens' Responsibility
and Ethics in Washington castigated those of US who alleged
strong federal involvement in January sixth. They too said it
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was a conspiracy, but I knew it wasn't because I
had taken the deposition of George Hill, a former Boston
FBI agent. He saw a evidence from the Washington Field
office and was told they wouldn't give it to them
because their agents and confidential human sources would be exposed.
Speaker 9 (05:07):
The SSA for CT two said, happy to do it.
Show us where they were inside the capital and we'll
look into it, to which WFO said, we can't show
you those videos unless you can tell us the exact
time and place those individuals were inside the capital, to
which the SSA responded back. And I was privy to
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these conversations firsthand, why can't you show us, why can't
you just send us give us access to the eleven
thousand hours of video of this example that's available, because
there may be may be UC's undercover officers or chs's
confidential human for confidential human sources on those videos whose
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identity we need to protect.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
After hearing that testimony, there was never a question in
my mind whether the FBI had a voluminous presence on
January six The question is whether those FBI agents and
assets increased the criminal activity on that day to ensnare others.
The Epic Times has done some reporting on a video
we've paid close attention to. The person you'll see with
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face coverings was never arrested, never charged. Some people are
asking whether he was one of those FBI plane closed
agents not undercover of course right watching aside.
Speaker 10 (06:26):
You guys, don't blo.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Rather the original.
Speaker 11 (06:46):
Do not go in there.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Here to discussed.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Two people who I think are going to have an
opinion on the subject to parton j sixers and Rique
Tarrio and Alex Shepard. Enrique, you once led the Proud Boys.
We now know that your formal organization had been infiltrated
with confidential human sources for the FBI. You spend time
in prison prior to being pardoned by President Trump. What's
your reaction to the news that two hundred and seventy
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four FBI agents were in plain clothes on the grounds
on January sixth.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
I'd be lying to you if I had told you
that I was surprised.
Speaker 12 (07:47):
Buy it, Matt. We saw it in our trial. We
saw it day in, day out in our trial. As
a matter of fact, the prosecutors never brought any of
those informants because they all said the same thing that
we didn't plan anything. Another matter of factly is we
brought in one of their own informants to testify for
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the defense, and in doing that, we found out that
this person was an FBI asset for fifteen years, paid
asset by the FBI, and he is part of a
major breach that happened. He put a podium under a
rolling aluminum door. We didn't find that out until trial.
So it doesn't surprise me to find out that there's
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two hundred and seventy four FBI agents that were on
the ground that Day's that's old news for us.
Speaker 13 (08:38):
New news.
Speaker 6 (08:38):
I guess for the public.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Well, what you just said about them increasing the criminal
acuity is very interesting, and I want to get back
to that in a moment.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
But Alex.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
FBI Director Christopher Ray said that there weren't any undercover agents.
Now we learned there were plane closed agents. That seems
like a very flimsy distinction to me. Do you agree
with cash Ptel that direct lied to Congress?
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Well, absolutely, I agree that he lied to Congress. It
started with him saying that we had no undercover FBI agents.
Then a couple of years ago he switched it to well,
we might have had twenty or something, and now it's
two hundred and seventy five. So what I want to
know is the FBI is just one agency. So were
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they working with Antifa? I think they were. How many
DHS agents and other government agencies from our government or
another government? How many of them were there? So absolutely
he lied one hundred and ten percent.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Enrique, you know you mentioned this evidence that came out
in your trial where one of the FBI's assets could
have been breaking the law. Do you think there are
other cases where these two hundred and seventy four people
were actually increasing the amount of criminal activity happening on
that day.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
Matt, I don't. It's not that I believe that he
was breaking the law.
Speaker 12 (09:59):
He admitted to break the law while he was on
the stand, and for those watching on Twitter, you could
search his name as FBI informant Aaron. He was part,
like I said, part of a major breach. And I
think there's going to be a lot more that we're
going to find out. We had to pull teeth, Matt.
We had to pull teeth to find these these FBI
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assets and agents in our case because the prosecutors were
not giving us that information. The judge instructed them three
times to h to release these names of these people,
and they didn't. And even after the trial agreed.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
You say, you were pulling teeth as a criminal accused,
and you're supposed to get all the benefit of due
process as a criminal accused. As a congressman, I couldn't
get them to tell the truth. Andy Biggs couldn't get
them to tell the truth. And so, Enrique, what do
you think should be the punishment for the people who
were so deceptive about this for so long?
Speaker 12 (10:55):
Well, my JA six brother here says that Christopher Ray lied.
I'd like to use the word perjured himself. He perjured
himself consistently over and over again to members of Congress,
to yourself, and to the American people. To be quite honest,
I think that we need to start seeing. We need
to start seeing. And I'm very happy that Comy has
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been arrested. He lied to Congress. But we're going to see.
We should see Christopher Ray and many others get hit
for the same thing.
Speaker 6 (11:27):
I mean, if you want to if you want to
talk about.
Speaker 12 (11:32):
Obstructing Congress, you got Merrik Garland that was referred to
the DOJ for the same thing that Bannon did.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Now, very very good point, Alex. You talked about some
of your lingering questions here. You know what else do
you think folks that are trying to find the truth
should be looking at? So you mentioned connections to left
wing groups, but even connections to other components of other
intelligence entities seem to be of great interest.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Well, it's funny you mentioned that because the federal agent
who is disguised as a reporter, Scott McFarlane, he's been
all around d C. And he just made a video
today which I've been wanting to respond to. He's got
me blocked on Twitter. But basically he is saying that
it's all conspiracy theories that these two hundred and seventy
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five agents were there as a response to the crowd
and they were there to help out because the crowd
was so riotous and all these things. That's obviously not true.
They were the ones breaking windows, they were the ones
pushing past each of the breach points, you know, and
they were also the ones to tell the Capitol police
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to back off and to let them through. So, you know,
Scott McFarlane then closed the video out by saying, well,
you know, we do still need answers on who planted
the pipe bombs and who built the gallows outside of
the you know, the gallows outside of the Capitol. And
you know, he basically debunked himself there because I don't
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know who do you think it is. I've got a
pretty good idea of who built the gallows outside of
the Capitol.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
I certainly think when it relates to the pipe bomb,
we every time we looked further into the pipe bomb,
there was like another interesting connection to the government, whether
it was how it was found, whether it was who
was in the building, whether it was the sweeps the
tracking of that individual. It was very suspicious and I
still don't think we have those answers at all. Enrique
zooming out just a moment here, Like in the weeks
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and months after January sixth, the whole of federal government
used that event to try to make the rest of
the world afraid of MAGA, to make the world think that,
like the Proud Boys sought the overthrow of the US
government by violent force. What do you think are some
of the most important things right now to correct and
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demystify as we're learning about the extensive FBI involvement in
that day.
Speaker 12 (13:58):
Look, it's pretty easy, and we showed this in court.
The Proud Boys or the Oathkeepers, their plan was not
to overthrow the United States government. If that was anybody's plan,
it was a dumb plan because that's that's that wouldn't
have accomplished anything of the sort.
Speaker 6 (14:14):
So and that that FBI agent I got his name,
His name is James Knowles. For those that want to.
Speaker 12 (14:20):
Search and then moving forward, what we need to see
is is accountability. You know, I say retribution and retaliation.
Speaker 6 (14:27):
And what does that look like.
Speaker 12 (14:28):
No, it doesn't look like any violence, not violence that
we've seen like from the left, it means justice. We
want our government to work. We want I want to
feel good about my institutions. I want to feel like
like confident that that this isn't going to happen again,
you know. And the only way that we could do
this is hold those people that did this accountable. Take
those names out that James Knowles, the Christopher Rays, the
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Merrick Garlands.
Speaker 13 (14:53):
Uh.
Speaker 12 (14:54):
That's the only way we're going to fix this, matt Is,
is accountability through because if they take power, if they
steal the election again, this is gonna happen again.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Well, Alex, no, I get the concern about that institutional rot,
and it seemed to be what President Trump was talking
about when he put out his social media post he
talked about you guys. He was saying that there were
patriots who didn't mean to break the law but were
ensnared in this day, and that he felt like he
owed it to you to find out who those people
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were and to find out every single thing they were
doing that day. Alex, does it give you some sense
of confidence that we actually will be able to do
what Enrique is calling for and get that accountability with
such a precise focus from President Trump.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Well, yeah, I greatly appreciated the message from President Trump
that he posted a couple of days alluding to that.
The thing is, we need accountability, we need retribution the
people involved in these prosecutions when they knew they had
no evidence. I'm talking about the DOJ lawyers. I'm talking
about the FBI agent who are entrapping people and raiding
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our houses in the middle of the night, middle of
the morning.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
How about the public defenders that walked people into pleas
that they never should have taken.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Oh yeah, there were a lot of public defenders who
were definitely pushing plea deals. I knew the public defenders
were bad when this one lady represented thirty or forty
different January sixth defendants and then she goes out and
makes a statement about how Trump's an idiot, and it
was after we were pardoned. Well, she was upset that
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we were pardoned.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
You know that there were so many cases of this.
It's so unfortunate.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
But I am glad that President Trump is showing that focus,
and it seems like it seems like the rest of
the country is waking up to what you were put through.
And we hope that it never happens again. Alex Shepard
and Riquetario, thanks for joining me on the program and
chopping it up.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
And coming up, we will cover this tragic attack on
a Michigan church, an LDS church. There was shooting, there
was fire. We'll go to a state senate Republican leader
to describe what's happening next.
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Tonight, police searching for those missing after a deadly attack
at a Michigan church. The suspect rammed to pick up
truck through the front door, got out, and started shooting.
Speaker 12 (19:31):
I can confirm at this time that the FBI is
now leading the investigation and is investigating this as an
act of targeted violence.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
The mass shooting and fire occurred yesterday at the Church
of Jesus Christ Laturday Saints in Grand Blanc Township, Michigan,
during a Sunday service. The attacker rammed this vehicle into
the church, opened fire on worshippers inside, and then set
the building a blaze.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Using gasoline or some accelerant.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
He was killed by law enforcement in a shootout at
the scene, roughly with him and eight minutes of the
attacks beginning. Four were killed, eight were wounded. Some of
the deceased were found in the remains of the church,
indicating they may have.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Been trapped by the fire.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Officials believe explosive devices were involved, though it's not clear which,
if any, were detonated. The suspect is Thomas Jacob Sanford,
aged forty, from Burton, Michigan. Authorities are treating this as
a targeted act of violence. It's not clear what the
motive is. Investigators are searching as residents, devices and connections
for clues. Joining us now is Michigan Senate Majority leader
(20:31):
and the Republican candidate for governor of Michigan Areic Nesbit,
Leader Nesbit.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
How are people doing in Grand Blanc?
Speaker 13 (20:38):
Well, my heart breaks for the victims and their families
and just the entire community in Grand Blanc. Folks showed
up to a church service yesterday morning to worship God
and practiced their faith, and instead a crazy person, a gunman,
drove into the church in open fire and set fire
(21:00):
to it. And this goes down to really an issue
around the country that I think President Trump's really taking
a leadership to. We've seen real progress and securing our
borders and cracking down on crime in Michigan. I'm going
to align with his focus on focusing on tough on
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crime policies that hold criminals accountable and making sure that
joining where President Trump is how understanding how important it
is that he's signed executive orders on taking action on
the mental illness that we've seen ravaging this country. But
this is just unforgivable and unforgettable on what's happened. And
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I just want to thank local law enforcement and the
federal leadership that we've seen from the FBI as they
continue to work with local law enforcement to figure out
and connect all those dots.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
When we look at events like this and how much
damage can be done in such a short period of time.
We were taken by the fact that from beginning to end,
this was about eight minutes. What's your assessment of the
local law enforcement response in Michigan.
Speaker 13 (22:08):
Well, I'm incredibly grateful for the quick response by a
local department Natural resource officer and local law enforcement that
swiftly brought this nightmare to an end within mere minutes.
And I'm thankful for the immediate support that was offered
by President Trump and his FBI along with the Attorney
General Bondi and FBI Director Patel. You saw the real
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difference in terms of the elementary school in Texas where
they didn't go in, they didn't have quick action. And unfortunately,
with these mental health issues around the country that we're
seeing more and more in Michigan where I have friends
and neighbors that are getting permission from their pastors and
(22:51):
to be able to carry in churches to make sure
that folks are protected as they worship. We saw one
in Wayne County where peopleeople were attacked and there was
quick action by those that were caring to take down
that evil person there in western Winne County just a
few months ago.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
The LDS community is a tight knit community, good people
in my experience, do they feel as though they were
targeted for their religious beliefs at this time.
Speaker 13 (23:21):
Well, we're seeing people time after time, Christians, those that
practice their faith as they see fit in our own
First Amendment right. So it's freedom of religions under there.
And just as we saw with Charlie Kirk just a
few weeks ago, shot down as an assassin's bullet at
Utah Valley, that we're seeing these kind of attacks not
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just against our faith community, but against free speech in general.
We're celebrating tw hundred and fifty years a country next year,
and I think it's important to understand that the bedrock
of our democratic republic are constitutionals, our First and Second
Amendment rights that are in our Bill of Rights, and
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they both go hand in hand making sure that we're
able to debate these issues and also making sure we're
able to defend our families and our livelihoods. And you're
right that this is the beauty of America, is being
able to defend our freedoms and practice our faiths as
we see fit. And I can only understand, I can
only imagine how shaken that community. The Mormon community is
(24:29):
in the Genesee County area and It's something where we're
just going to have to fight harder and harder to
make sure that we're protecting our First and Second Amendment
rights and we protect our Bill of Rights, to make
sure that as we go in to celebrate to two
hundred and fifty years of the country, that we can
defend all of our constitutional rights and protect our people.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
No, no question, you've mentioned mental health as something that
would be a focus of yours if you were to
become governor of Michigan. What do you think Michigan's getting
wrong now about mental health?
Speaker 2 (24:59):
What can you improve as governor?
Speaker 13 (25:01):
Well, unfortunately, as I talked to sheriffs around our state
that the largest, one of the largest mental health institution
in every one of our counties is unfortunately our jail.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
That needs to stop.
Speaker 13 (25:14):
And thirty years ago when they shut down state institutions,
I think President Trump is right that they need to
be reopened. And thankfully President Trump understands how important this
issue is and I'm glad that he's taken action to
address this by signing recent executive orders. They need somebody
to stand with President Trump that I'll do to expand
in voluntary commitments to psychiatricist facilities, and we can't allow
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dangerous and deranged people that are a threat to themselves
or a threat to others to Rome streets. It helps
nobody and it makes everyone less safe. So we need
to join with law enforcement to make sure that we
don't have some of these woke left winging policies that
allow for cashless bond or they drop them off at
a mental institution. And I had just had a sheriff
(25:59):
last week I was meeting with this says, I drop
them off someplace and they beat us home.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Well, you got to be able to do better than that,
and I'm sure that will in order the benefit of
all Michiganders. Arek Nesbitt, the state Senate majority leader and
current Republican candidate for governor of Michigan. Thanks for joining
me in our condolences to everybody in your state.
Speaker 13 (26:18):
Thanks man, thanks for covering this.
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Speaker 1 (29:35):
We return to our coverage of the war in Gaza,
and there's breaking news. President Trump has published a twenty
one point plan aimed at ending the conflict.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Here are some key elements.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
A ceasefire in return of all Israeli hostages, dead or alive.
This would be part of a prisoner swap that would
also include the return of hundreds of Palestinians we're currently
held by Israel. Israel would gradually withdraw forces from Gaza
if certain security conditions are met. International or regional Stabilization
force of Arab countries would be established to maintain security.
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The Transitional Authority of mostly Arab countries would temporarily administer
Gaza until local governance led by the Palestinians is viable.
The plan expects Hamas to be disarmed, its authority dismantled.
In some reports, Hamas leaders may be granted safe passage
or immunity if they cease hostilities and release the hostages.
Trump is asserted that he will not allow Israel to
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formally annex Judea and Samaria under this plan. The plan
calls for halting Israeli military actions against Qatar. That's something
the Katari ambassador told us on this program he believed
Trump would deliver.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
Someone is really official said that they will do this again.
Speaker 11 (30:43):
But we are very grateful for the president who said
that this will never happen again, and he gave us
this guarantee. So I think we are confident when the
US president tell us that this is not going to
happen again, and we appreciate his friendship and his support
to this.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Sounds like a good plan to us return the hostages,
stop the killing, established peace with stakeholders who can.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Enforce that piece.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
So how is the israel first crowd in America reacting
to President Trump's strong effort?
Speaker 11 (31:13):
No other country in the world, none, He's going to
tell Israel what to do, how to defend itself and
its people.
Speaker 6 (31:21):
Period.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
That was just yesterday.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Who do you think Mark Levin, the Fox News host
is talking about? Well, who better than Levin himself to
give some clarity. He had a melt down on x
over the weekend. On Friday, he was aghast at President
Trump's Gaza deal. He was opposed to the announcement on
truth social He was asking if Israel had been informed
or was participating. Does Mark Levin know what happened to
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the last guys who tried to negotiate with Netniyahu.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
I'll give you a hint. They got bombs dropped on
their homes in Doha.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Ordering the launch of bombs paid for by American taxpayers
is easy. What's hard is peace. That's what President Trump
is trying to forge. And in these serious times, this
is what you get from Mark Levin.
Speaker 15 (32:05):
Hamas sounds like a food man past the Hamas.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Yesterday, Mark Levin wrongly criticized President Trump quote, our country
cannot dictate to Israel that it can never recognize the
literal birthplace of Judaism as Israel's Levin said. He followed
up by saying no to a Palestinian state, as if
he were one of Israel's negotiators. Levin also posted his
Daily Telegraph from Tel Aviv quote, the Israeli PM.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Is not going to buckle to you.
Speaker 12 (32:33):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
We've long positive the theory on this program that BB Netnyah,
who doesn't want peace. Maybe one of the reasons he
bombed Qatar is because some of the Hamas leaders had
indicated a willingness to sign this exact plan at the
demand of President Trump. One way to avoid a peace
agreement is to execute the people who might sign it.
But we bet on the Trump Vance administration over the
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desires of Net Nyahu to keep the Middle East soaked
and chaos and violence and blood. It's clear that the
Nah Yahoo government has some desire to control the message.
BB assembled US influencers to tell them that social media
is the most important weapon.
Speaker 15 (33:12):
We have to fight with the weapons that applied to
the battlefields in which one gains, and the most important
ones are social media.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
In other news, oracle head Larry Ellison has led the
team that will be purchasing TikTok. Larry Ellison is the
single largest donor to the Israeli Defense forces in America.
When we saw BB's government express desire to control social media,
followed by BB briefing social media influencers, followed by the
largest donor to the I v F buying TikTok. We
thought back to this clip net Yahoo says Americans are
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easily manipulated, can move absolutely. Meanwhile, Tucker Carlson is reporting
(34:04):
that BB is feeling rather bullish about thwarting the Trump
vance administration's peace agenda.
Speaker 6 (34:10):
I mean BB's running around.
Speaker 14 (34:11):
This is a fact.
Speaker 7 (34:12):
I'm not guessing about this because I talked to people
who said it to is running around the Middle East,
his region, in his own country and telling people point blank,
just stating it.
Speaker 6 (34:20):
I control the United States, I control Donald Trump. He's
saying that.
Speaker 7 (34:23):
And again, I'm not guessing at all. That's a fact,
And I dare them to say that's not true, because
it is true and they know it's true.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Here with us to discuss.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
As geopolitical strategist and author of China Is Going to
War Gordon Chang Gordon. President Trump has put out his
plan for peace in Gaza. It seems to make everyone
a little uncomfortable, which is probably necessary for any deal
in the Middle East.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
What do you make of it?
Speaker 10 (34:47):
I think it has real chance of working. I mean
it's the twenty point piece plan Hummas right now is decimated,
which means it has a lot of incentive to do
a deal. Now, of course, this is the Middle East,
which means lodge it doesn't apply. But I do believe
that the stars are aligned, especially because Israel wants to
do this. I think Kamas should want to do this,
(35:09):
and President Trump is going to use all of his
persuasive powers to make sure it happens. So yeah, I
think it probably will.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
I wonder if it makes things more challenging that Israel
launched bombs into Qatar. I have the Katari ambassador on
my program recently and he questioned whether or not net
Yahoo could even be trusted to make a deal.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Take a listen and we'll get your reaction.
Speaker 6 (35:34):
Since the last.
Speaker 11 (35:36):
Strike that Natanill and his government conducted go Katar, we
really don't see that they are sincere about having pieces
of talks or negotiations. Until we see some concrete actions
that they are really genuine about finding a solution, finding
an agreement, I don't think we will be able to
do anything.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
So Gordon, how does President Trump rebuild this trust that
looks like it was shattered?
Speaker 10 (36:01):
Well, he made a good start today because he had
that trilateral phone call and net and Yahoo actually apologized
to Qatar's Prime minister, the emer and I think that
was a good start. Now there's a couple of things
going on here, and that is in Doha, the Hamas
leadership hangs out and so Qatar has been giving them
(36:24):
refuge and that is wrong.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
But hold on Gordon.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
They were asked to by the Americans and the Israelis,
I mean, the Israelis asked Katar in a writing to
fund HIMASA the tune of thirty million dollars a month.
I don't know if that's a good decision or a
bad one, but it seems seems hardly a thing to
blame Qatar for.
Speaker 10 (36:42):
Yeah, I mean, I can understand that, but for a
long time Hamas has used that as a refuge. The
thing that's important here is that President Trump really saw
that this was important. That the September ninth strike really
angered the people not only in that Gulf state but
throughout the golf and that just enngraged the region, and
(37:04):
so President Trump realized there had to be an apology.
Now they may not accept that apology, but at least
today the Prime Minister did say that he was going
to accept it, So that's a good sign at least,
you know, we're on one step at a time. That so, yeah,
President Trump's doing a great job.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Yeah, it does seem like you kind of have to
align these pieces in order to get the ecosystem ready
for peace. One key provision that a lot of people
are talking about is that Israel will not agree to
annex Judea and Samaria. Is that going to be a
problem for them to agree to or is that a
good way to get this thing done.
Speaker 6 (37:43):
Well?
Speaker 10 (37:44):
Inside Israel, that will be a problem because members of
Netnahu's support group in coalition, they very much to you know,
want that annexation. But that is something that I think
that you know, you look around the world, that's something
that Israel shouldn't do at this time. I know that
(38:05):
that's controversial, but that would inflame opinion at some point.
I think that the Palestinians have got to come to
terms and that we will see something better, and that
we will see, for instance, Western states no longer recognize
the Palestinian state, which of course does not exist. So
(38:27):
maybe both sides can sort of climb down a little bit,
and that would be a good thing at this point.
You know, that's what President Trump wants. He wants to
make sure that he can reduce the temperature. So there
is at least the possibility of a deal. And if
anybody can do this deal, it's going to be the
president of the United States.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
One of the big features also is this hostage exchange.
Israel has hundreds of Palestinians that would be released under
the plan. Of course, we want to see all of
those Israeli hostages released, whether they're currently living or not, frankly,
back to their families.
Speaker 10 (38:59):
What do you make of those terms, Well, that's one
nine hundred and fifty Palestinians being released for hostages with
far fewer numbers. So Hamas has got to like that.
This is I think the problem here is that although
the people who are going to be released are going
(39:20):
to have to make some sort of statement that they
have stained from terror, you know, of course they're not
going to do that.
Speaker 6 (39:27):
So I worry about.
Speaker 10 (39:28):
Hamas being able to reconstitute itself with the people who.
Speaker 6 (39:32):
Are going to be released.
Speaker 10 (39:34):
But it's part of the Trump peace plans, so you
know it's something that Israel doesn't like. It's something I
don't like, but it's something probably that's necessary. And one thing,
Matt that is really good aspect of this deal is
that I think Trump will pave the way for a
number of the Gulf states to sign Abraham Accords, including
Qatar itself.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Oh, we would love to see that as well. A
final question for you, Gordon, what is the timeline you're
watching here? Is something that can go quickly or are
we going to have to be patient as all of
the different factions get together and see what they can
agree to.
Speaker 10 (40:07):
I wish I knew the answer to that question. Everyone
wants to see it quick Hamas has every reason to
do that, so does Israel. But as I said, you know,
it's the Middle East, so logic goes out the window.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Well, what a cliffhanger, Gordon Chang, foreign policy expert. We
appreciate you coming on and breaking down the key futures
of the deal.
Speaker 10 (40:26):
Well, thank you so much, Matt, and stay safe.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Yes, thank you you as well. And Mayor Adams has
dropped out of the race to continue as Mayor of
New York. Kevin Smith, if the lad majority is here
to tell us what that means and whether or not
it means Gotham falls to socialism.
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Speaker 16 (43:00):
Despite all we've achieved, I cannot continue my re election campaign.
The constant media speculation about my future and the campaign
finance boys decision to with whole millions of dollars have
undermined my ability to raise the funds needed for a
(43:21):
serious campaign.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
New York City Mayor Eric Adams has just dropped out
of his own reelection campaign. That leaves socialists or on
Mom Donnie squared up against former New York State Governor
Andrew Cuomo. This might help Cuomo some in a coalition,
but we haven't exactly seen the Adams move as a
market changer on major betting platforms. Returning to the program
is the founder and host of Loud Majority Live, Kevin Smith.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
So, Kevin, I feel like every time we talk.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
It's like you wait twenty minutes in this race fundamentally changes.
Eric Adams is out, does it matter at all?
Speaker 15 (43:55):
I mean, look, this is the motivation that people are
going to need now that there are less candidates in
the race. Obviously one more has to drop out, whoever
that's going to be. It's gonna put pressure on Sliwa
or Cuomo to end up dropping out of this race
if they want to do what needs to be done
for New York City. And look, I don't know which
(44:17):
one it's going to be. It appears that Cuomo is
up in the polls, running a far second to Curtis.
He seems to be in this for the long haul.
But if one of them doesn't leave soon, there's going
to be a real problem. The big issue is that
Adams is still going to be on the ballot, so
dropping out.
Speaker 6 (44:34):
At this point is almost pointless. Unfortunately, what do you
think will be.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
The legacy of Eric Adams as mayor of New York City?
Speaker 15 (44:43):
I mean, he's probably going to go down as one
of the most hated mayors ever. He seems to be
hated by the right and by the left. He's hated
by the right for what he did for the first
three and a half years of his term, and he's
hated by the left for capitulating or as they're saying,
capitulating to the Trump administration in the last six months
of his term. But I really think that people are
going to look back on this as a sort of
(45:05):
uh as as the guy who gave us Jorhan Mandani
and uh, you know, I forgot who was its president
that was probably it was Buchanan. People look back as
the worst president ever, which gave us the greatest ever.
Speaker 6 (45:20):
So we'll see what happens.
Speaker 15 (45:21):
It's uh, it's it's it's not gonna be good.
Speaker 6 (45:24):
But we'll see if New York can rise from the
issues after this one.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
Now, there were some reports that Adams was very solicitous
of the Trump administration, potentially seeking a job, like, is
there a single job in the federal government did you
believe Eric Adams would be qualified to hold?
Speaker 15 (45:41):
Well, he seems to be very close with the Turkish embassy,
so maybe we can make him ambassador the Turkey UH
based funnel reports. He seems to be him and Erdawan
seemed to get along very well, so maybe we can uh,
maybe we can ship him off to Istanbul, you know.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
He he did present an interesting candidacy though, Kevin, in
that he said he wanted to make New York workable
for New Yorkers, right. The core message that he brought
to his initial campaign, you know, was that this would
be a place that people who had started businesses in
New York, had raised families in New York could enjoy.
(46:15):
And then he embraced the sanctuary policies, brought in the
illegals and didn't really back the police. Is Eric Adams
ultimately going to go down as a guy who was
just willing to say anything at whatever time was necessary
for personal advancement.
Speaker 15 (46:31):
Absolutely, And this is the sort of this is the
sort of neoliberal blob that people talk about all the time.
People that are willing to stick their finger in the
air and see which where the wind is blowing. They
have no principles at all, and because of that they
end up pissing off everybody because they believe in nothing,
because they hold firm and they stand for nothing.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
This is what happens when you.
Speaker 15 (46:52):
Elect somebody to be the mayor of New York City
who lives in Fort Lee, New Jersey. Somebody didn't really
care about the city, somebody that this was just a
stepping stone for him. And what's shocking is that when
he won, he was actually the most moderate one in
the race.
Speaker 6 (47:08):
Uh, four years ago.
Speaker 15 (47:09):
So now we see, uh, now we see what happens
when you elect people who have no morals, no values,
and who believe in nothing.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
We we looked at the betting odds as it related
to this change in the race with Adams leaving, and
it didn't really seem like there was a huge boost
for Cuomo. He got he got a little bit of
an improved chance, but not much of one. And you
see Mamdannie running on these policies like targeting white communities,
like literally targeting white communities for different tax policies and uh,
(47:40):
putting those folks in a pretty uncomfortable position. Do you
think Mam Donnie is going to lead to white flight
out of New York?
Speaker 6 (47:47):
Absolutely? They they are all.
Speaker 15 (47:49):
If you have, if you have the means to leave,
you're going to leave. I've got my Gulf of America
had on, considering most New Yorkers will be living there
relatively soon, right along the UH right along the Panandle
border down there in Florida, they're going to come out
to Long Island and they're going to move to west Chester.
Because if you're if you're someone of means, why would
you stay in a city that doesn't care about you
(48:11):
when you can move like three miles across the river
into Bergen County, New Jersey, Or you can move out
to your second home in Suffolk County, forty five minutes
outside of the city and take the train to work
every day.
Speaker 6 (48:22):
Why would you.
Speaker 15 (48:24):
I wouldn't blame people for leaving if they're going to
be persecuted for their skin color under this mayor, and
it seems like that's what he's going to do.
Speaker 14 (48:32):
You mentioned New Jersey. So I have to ask.
Speaker 1 (48:34):
We've got this pretty exciting coubernatorial campaign there going on
now with Mikey Cheryl having to ask some difficult questions
about stock trades, Jack Chittarelli looking more pro Trump and
more MAGA. Now, then during his first run, does Chittarelli
have a chance to upset Mikey Cheryl? Oh?
Speaker 6 (48:52):
Absolutely, I think so.
Speaker 15 (48:53):
He came pretty close last time against an incumbent governor
in Phil Murphy. Now he's obviously running it for an
open seat. But now they have the sort of ground
game in New Jersey that they didn't have last time,
with people like Mike Crispy and Scott Presler being on
the ground, out there doing the voter registration, doing the
get out the vote efforts. They really wasn't president in
twenty twenty one, whether it was COVID or whether it
(49:16):
was just not the infrastructure that was available yet the
amount of boots on the ground. I've been out in
New Jersey. I've braved three hours of traffic to go
and help them out as often as I can. But
we really want to see what's going to happen in
New Jersey because the New Jersey goes in twenty five.
I really believe that New York is New York State
is the next chip to fall in the red wave
(49:37):
in the northeast.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
Well, remember President Trump had that huge rally out in
New Jersey. It gave people a lot of hope. It
wasn't all that long ago. New Jersey's had Republican governors.
Now and then it could happen. It would dampen the
Democrats in the midterms in a very significant way. Kevin Smith,
the founder and host of Loud Majority Life, Thanks as
always for coming on, Thank you for having me and
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Speaker 1 (52:20):
Ever, last Friday, claim circulated online that the University of
Cincinnati not only tried to remove its turning point chapter,
but also try to charge them for space that they
had been using. Take a listen to former University of
Cincinnati student Olivia Krolzik.
Speaker 17 (52:40):
The University of Cincinnati has removed the Turning Point USA
chapter from their campus with no explanation as to why.
The president of the chapter has sent me the email
that they received and this is what it says. In
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at the university foreigner reason, they are now being charged
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years ago, I was failed at the University of Cincinnati
for using the term biological woman in a required DEI
course as a chemistry major.
Speaker 1 (53:14):
After that was posted, we learned there was more to
the story and that Turning Point indeed was welcomed at
the University of Cincinnati, and there appears to be a
lot of student interest. Political commentator and public speaker Olivia
Krolchik joins us. Now, so, Olivia tell us about the
status of Turning Point at Cincinnati.
Speaker 17 (53:30):
Yeah, it turns out that the Turning Point chapter is
not very welcome at the University of Cincinnati. Apparently for
the last four years they have not reregistered to be
a student organization. But up until now it wasn't a problem.
And I have personally been to about four of the
Turning Point USA Chapters events that they've had at the
school of the last four years, and it was never
an issue until now. And it seems that they are
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Speaker 1 (53:54):
We hope they sorted out. The university is saying they're welcome,
but have to do the paperwork. Why do you think
access to Turning Point Chapters is important for college students?
Speaker 17 (54:03):
Oh my gosh, it's so important now more than ever
to have access to Turning Point because conservative students have
been looking at what's been happening on campuses to conservative
speakers like Charlie Kirk myself, even I was held hostage
in January by Antifa at a Turning Point USA event
in Washington in Seattle. So they're seeing these conservative speakers
going out voicing their opinions, their beliefs and getting attacked
(54:24):
for it. So it's important now more than ever that
students recognize that we still have free speech in America,
especially on college campuses, because free speech and debate is
fundamental to academia.
Speaker 1 (54:36):
What are you seeing from young people and activism following
the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Is there more of a
willingness to engage or is it hardened people's positions on
their ideologies.
Speaker 17 (54:47):
I mean, I think it's absolutely inspired more people to
get involved. I think there's been eighty thousand, if not more,
requests to start turning point chapters across the entire nation,
which is incredible. But aside from just starting chapters acros,
what's been the most incredible is that there have been hundreds,
if not thousands of people who reached out to me
saying I went to church for the first time, I
(55:08):
bought my first Bible, I prayed the Rosary for the
first time. All these people are turning to faith, and
we are one nation under God and faith is what
has been lacking for so long. So it's incredible to
see not only just young people in my generation, but
of all ages turning to faith for the first time
in their life.
Speaker 1 (55:23):
That would have been so welcome to Charlie Kirk to
know that it wasn't just about politics, but this drew
people to something more. And I do believe that more
folks might pass by a Turning Point chapter be interested
in what's happening on a college tour. Now, as a
consequence of all the attention this has gotten.
Speaker 2 (55:40):
What do you think keeps people there?
Speaker 1 (55:42):
You know, it's one thing for people to show interest
and show up at a Turning Point chapter. What's the
type of thing that engages students to say I want
to be involved in this effort in a durable, ongoing way.
Speaker 17 (55:54):
They're allowed to disagree on topics while still being part
of Turning Point, while still being part of the conserv party.
I for one, I love Turning Point, have always supported
a lot of what they've done. But I've had my
disagreements with certain things that Charlie or Turning Point have done,
and that is okay. I'm so welcome to be a
speaker at Turning Point events and things like that. So
it's the openness and willingness to have debate that makes
(56:16):
people want to stay a part of the chapter that.
Speaker 1 (56:18):
Is such a good point, and we hope the debate continues.
Olivia Krolchek, thank you for standing up for students all
over on campuses who want the ability to associate this
way and contribute to politics.
Speaker 2 (56:28):
We hope you'll join us again. Thank you. That's all
the time we have.
Speaker 1 (56:31):
We'll be back tomorrow, nine Eastern six specific Make sure
to sign up for the OA and Live app if
you haven't already.
Speaker 2 (56:36):
Just go TOA and N dot.
Speaker 1 (56:38):
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Speaker 14 (56:43):
Stay right here.
Speaker 2 (56:44):
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