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Speaker 1 (00:00):
An ice involved shooting in Minnesota leaves a thirty seven
year old woman dead. President Trump says it is self defense.
We will break down the footage with former Arizona Sheriff
Mark Lamb. Plus at the Department of Health and Human Services.
We got a new food pyramid today. We'll discuss that
with health experts. And you won't believe which high ranking
(00:20):
official in the Somali government is now linked to some
of the fraud allegations that are being investigated by President
Trump's administration. We also got major housing policy announcements from
President Trump. We'll talk about the economic impacts, all that
and more. Next to the Matt Gates Show, Let's do this.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Shaking up Washington, d C. We're breaking the fever.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Do you ever watch this guy on television.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
It's like a machine.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
He's great.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Matt Gates, as we join you this evening, a thirty
seven year old woman is dead after a confrontation with
ice left her shot.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
That is some thing that has.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
A lot of people having an ignited discussion about ice enforcement.
We certainly see that enforcement leading to safer streets and
communities that no longer are terrorized by violent illegal immigrants.
We've seen protests also that have ranged from peaceful and
appropriate under the First Amendment to violent, destructive and certainly
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within the legal definition of obstruction of justice. We saw
the Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, Christy Nome,
addressed the shooting take a listen.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
Was an active domestic terrorism. What happened was our ice
officers were out in enforcement action. They got stuck in
the snow because of the adverse weather that is in Minneapolis.
They were attempting to push out their vehicle and a
woman attacked them and those surrounding them and attempted to
run them over and ram them with her vehicle. An
officer of ours acted quickly and defensively shot to protect
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himself and the people around him. And my understanding is
is that she was hit and is is ceased. We're
continuing to gather more information, but this goes to show
the assaults that are ice officers in our law enforcement
are under every single day.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
This operation will continue.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
It is for the safety and defense of the country,
and so many patriotic Americans have signed up to serve
in ice to see that we are rid of the
violent migrants who were allowed to come here with open
borders during the Biden administration. Now, in this particular event,
it does appear that there are a lot of different
things that point to an act of domestic terrorism. Let's
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take a look frame by frame in slow motion. This
was released by the Department of Homeland Scurity. We also
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have fresh reaction tonight from Minnesota Mayor Jacob Frye.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Take a listen.
Speaker 6 (03:06):
They are not here to cause safety in this city.
Speaker 7 (03:12):
What they are doing is not to provide safety in America.
Speaker 8 (03:16):
What they are doing is causing chaos and distrust to Ice.
Get the he out of Minneapolis.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
That's not how it works, Mayor fry mister tough guy,
the guy who was on his knees weeping after the
events that led to the Summer of protests in twenty
twenty one. But Jacob fry now posting up on ICE
is about one of the strangest things we've seen because
the chaos, the unruliness, the violence occurred at our southern
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border when Joe Biden and Kamala Harris allowed policies to
take hold that put the cartels and criminals in charge,
and then that started affecting the interior of the country.
From Aurora Colorado to Minnesota and beyond. It is certainly
something that we're watching closely. And we also have another
story that has got our attention. That's in Arizona where
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the Supreme Court had a bomb threat. Tick listen, We've
begin with breaking news evacuations near the state capitol.
Speaker 9 (04:16):
DPS and the ATF are investigating a suspicious package at
the State Supreme Court building. Multiple other buildings nearby also evacuated.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Law enforcement confirming to those staff members that a suspicious
package in the mailroom tested positive for homemade explosives.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Joining US now former Arizona sheriff and current candidate for
the United States Congress, Republican Mark Lamb, Sheriff Lamb, thanks
for being here. We were going to talk about what's
going on in Arizona the Supreme Court, but before we
get there, this shooting involving an ICE officer and this
thirty seven year old woman. What are you seeing in
that event that catches your eye as a lawman.
Speaker 10 (04:56):
Well, it catches my eyes. This is a justified shooting. Look,
first of all, these people are activists. They continue to
get in the way. You know, this mayor wants to
claim that Ice is the one causing the problems. Ice
is doing the job that Congress and the federal government
is set forth for them. They're removing the people that
came into this country illegally, and as you put, this
was under.
Speaker 6 (05:14):
The Biden administration.
Speaker 10 (05:17):
Then you have these people that show up and continue
to condemn that and get in the way. And then
this lady tried to take her vehicle and use it
as a weapon towards them. Contrary to what anybody else
may say.
Speaker 6 (05:27):
This is a justified shooting.
Speaker 10 (05:29):
That guy feared for his life, his physical well being,
and he had every right to use lethal force in
that situation. What would have prevented this is if that
lady would have stayed home and allowed our federal agents
to do their job.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yeah, and when federal agents approach a car, it's a
very unknowable set of facts with the driver, with what
might be in that car. Talk a little bit about
what might have been going through those agents' mind as
they were confronting someone that was getting in the way
of the administration of justice.
Speaker 10 (06:02):
Well, you can clearly see her vehicle is placed in
such a way that is blocking the street. When one
of the guys gets out approaches the car, like you said,
you don't know what she's gotten there. She clearly is
not okay with what Ice is doing because she was
condemning ized per what Minnesota officials have said. So they
said she's a good person, but she was out there
condemning Ice. Then she takes her vehicle, puts it in
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drive while an officer and agent is standing in front
of that vehicle.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
Either he's gonna get.
Speaker 10 (06:32):
Run over, which could hurt him long term physical damage,
or it potentially kill him. And that is the that's
the requirement for lethal force. Look, I don't want to
see the loss of life. I wish this mother or
this woman daughter wouldn't have been there and lost her life.
But that that agent has every right to go home
safely to his family, and he was doing his job,
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a job that has been set forth, like I said,
by Congress. Now they can decide. Walt says, Oh, we're
gonna look into this and we're gonna been sure there's justice. Look,
under the sixth Amendment, they are under the supremacy clause.
Speaker 6 (07:05):
They have the right to be there. They're doing their job.
Speaker 10 (07:08):
And so anything that the state would do is going
to be qualified or is going to be covered under
the supremacy clause.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
You know, Sheriff, you mentioned the Minnesota mayor. And while
we support the right to protest, an active ICE enforcement
action is no place for a protest, obviously. And when
we have politicians like Mayor Fry and Governor Walls demonizing
ICE calling for resistance against the Trump administration's immigration enforcement efforts,
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don't you think that puts people in danger, whether they're
the sympathetic protesters or the law enforcement officials.
Speaker 10 (07:51):
Well, first of all, this is the same mayor where
we're now finding out billions of dollars a fraud have
occurred in the same community. This man goes out and
speaks Somali language to all the folks there, so I
got to question what a role he played in all
of that fraud.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
But then you go out and he's actually encouraging this
type of behavior to stand up against them. The First
Amendment doesn't mention protest.
Speaker 10 (08:15):
It says that you have the right to peaceably assemble
to readdress grievances with your government. If you're out there
trying to run over agents, I'm sorry that's not covered
under peaceably assembling. And this group, this hate and violence
that continues to come out from the left, ANDOK, Matt,
you know this as well as I do. Many of
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these folks are paid agitators groups, activist groups that are
actually paying people to show up and get in the
way of ICE agents to make it impossible for them
to do their job. And Americans need to stand up
and say, We've had enough of all of your hateful,
violent protests. Let our agents do their job and remove
these folks that are in this country illegally breaking the law.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
I also want to get your reaction to what we're
seeing in Arizona, this bomb threat at the Supreme Court.
What stands out to you as those facts are unfolding.
Speaker 10 (09:10):
Well, clearly somebody noticed the package. Obviously there's not a
lot of details yet because it's an ongoing investigation.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
They're trying to investigate to find out.
Speaker 10 (09:18):
Let's hope it doesn't take as long as the pipe
bomber the Democrat convention took. But they've got to figure
out a They did already ascertain that this did have
explosive compounds in it. DPS has a bomb unit, so
does ATF. They're the ones that respond. That's normal. Then
they'll show up, they'll take that and now we're going
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to try to backtrack, look at cameras, look at cell
phone pings, look at a lot of different evidence to
find out who might have placed that package or sent
that package to the court. And so there's a lot
of investigation that still has to be done. But they
did determine that there were explosive compounds in this so
thankfully somebody recognized it as a range package and they
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were able to get the law enforcement there to handle
it appropriately.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yeah, it's terrible that people even resort to this as
a mechanism of dispute resolution, especially at courts where people
are supposed to be able to go to resolve their disputes.
And Sheriff, you're running for Congress right now, and they're
in the middle of this big budget fight, and I'm
curious if you were there on the floor of the
House of Representatives now, what would you be fighting for
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to be included in the legislation that's ultimately going to
fund the government for the coming year.
Speaker 10 (10:37):
Matt, I'd be fighting for the American people. We're being
frauded every day, a lot of the tax dollars that
we work hard to make, or being sent all over
the world We've.
Speaker 6 (10:45):
Got to stop that.
Speaker 10 (10:46):
We've got to stop funding the fraud that exists in
this country. I think we're only at the tip of
the iceberg of the amount of fraud that's gone on
with all of these government programs. I would be fighting
for the American people, and that's I think the American
people want to see from their politicians, especially when it
comes to budgeting. We work hard for the dollars we have.
(11:07):
The founding fathers be rolling over in their graves to
see how much we are being taxed, whether it's income tax,
sales tax, property tax, debt tax. It's out of control,
and all this money is going towards bad programs that
bad politicians have implemented throughout the years.
Speaker 6 (11:24):
And what I would love to see is Congress and Senate.
Speaker 10 (11:27):
Start to peel all that back and start to make
it to where we don't have this level of fraud
and we're not sending money all over the world. That's
what the American people want, and I hope to be
their representative there to fight for the American people.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
I think that's what needs to happen.
Speaker 10 (11:43):
And if anybody else thinks the same, please go to
Marklamb dot us because that could use your support.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Former Arizona Sheriff Mark Lamb, current Republican candidate for the
United States Congress, one of the absolute warriors in the
MAGA movement.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Thanks so much for joining us and sharing our expertise.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
Thank you, Matt, God bless your brother.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
And coming up, we continue to cover this fraud and
who is involved. You won't believe the high ranking official
of a foreign government that is now being implicated by
an inspector general's report. We've got a senior official from
the Trump administration here to go through that report and
name names next on the Matt Gates Show.
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Our FK Junior making the food pyramid a great again.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
I am so here for this.
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I recall how many hours were spent during my time
in public education hearing that you had to have your
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Speaker 2 (15:46):
A major part of the plate. And it was nonsense.
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And like many of the forever wars that exist, we
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This is terrific.
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It is exactly what was promised in the Make America
Healthy agenda on the campaign trail, and we certainly see
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Speaker 2 (16:05):
That with great effect.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Now there is other news coming out of HHS that
caught our attention. You know, we've been watching very closely
this fraud situation in Minnesota. The impacts politically, the impacts
really on how we think about government safety net programs
and how we think about the taxes that we pay
to go support them. We don't want to see those
funds ending up in the hands of East African jihadists.
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And we also don't want them ending up in the
hands of fraud fezers in the Somali government. And that
is the new allegation coming out of HHS this week.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Enter Abu khar Osman.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
This guy is Somalia's permanent ambassador to the United Nations.
It's the same position Michael Waltz holds for the United
States of America, and he's the President of the Security Council,
which is a really important position. And now AHHS is
saying that this high ranking official in the Somali government
is involved in this crazy Somali fraud that we've continued
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to cover in Minnesota. We want to go right to
the story and to the highest source we can, right
to HHS and the Trump administration. Joining us now is
the Deputy Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services,
Jim O'Neill. Mister Deputy Secretary, thanks for joining us. Before
we get to this incredible discovery regarding a senior Somali
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officials involvement in these fraud concerns. Secretary Kennedy made news
with a reorientation of the food pyramid and we are
just so here for it. Wanted to give you the
chance to reflect on how you think the new and
improved food pyramid will affect public health in the country.
Speaker 12 (17:43):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Absolutely, it's so exciting. So unfortunately, for the past few
decades we've had official dietary advice from the government that's
basically junk science supporting junk food, and that finally changed
today in Secretary Kennedy and Secretary rawlins for the first
time ever, real nutrition guidance, based on real, rigorous science,
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based on real nutrition. And that is a great day
for America.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
No question about it.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Now, we're also following closely the Department's work to try
to suss out what's been going on in Minnesota, and
we caught note of this senior official in the Somali
government's attachment to the issue, tell us what's going on.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Yeah, So, our Inspector General just confirmed for me yesterday
that Ambassador ab Abukar Dahir Osman, he is the President
of the Security Council and the Ambassador to the UN
from Somalia, he used to be the owner and CEO
of Progressive health Care Services, which is a home health
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agency in Cincinnati, and during the period he was running it,
his company engaged in conduct that resulted in our department
excluding them from billing the federal health care programs. So
can't say for sure if he was personally responsible, but
it is definitely a very interesting link between the Somalian
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government and healthcare fraud in America.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
What else have we learned the Inspector General's report and
how can the Department implement better controls on public funds?
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Right?
Speaker 3 (19:19):
So, we have a responsibility to make sure that federal
programs that we run do not go to fraud, and
that has a backward looking angle in terms of investigating
past fraud and prosecuting and recouping money. It also has
a sort of immediate this week where we check receipts
and ensure that we can audit what's happened in the
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recent past.
Speaker 8 (19:43):
And then it also has.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
A going forward point which is frankly the most efficient,
which is just making sure that we don't send any
new money to states unless we are sure that it
is not going to be handed over to fraud by
the state officials.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
What are those indices of systems that you think are
most likely to be vulnerable to fraud in the various states.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Well, there's a we have a technical solution called defend
the spend where when states send us a request for money,
instead of just shipping the money out the door, we
automatically write back and say, please show us some evidence.
Please show us some confirmation that this is a real entity,
a real provider, a real hospital, a real daycare center
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before we send the money. And that puts the onus
on the state officials. We're not sending it directly to
the providers.
Speaker 8 (20:33):
Who could fake something.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
It's the state officials have to send us some specific
reassurance for every single bill, proving to at least their
satisfaction and their responsibility that it's real. And then that's
the technical side, and then the legal side is, you know,
we think that we want to you know, double check
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of what you know, voters often can't do for their
state officials individuals, which is ensure that there's integrity at
every level of every state program that's federally funded and
every federal program.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
And when we find out that there are these real
deviations from those best practices, what are the envelope of
options available for the department to refer people for prosecution
or administer consequences to people like this this ambassador who
was involved in the shady dealings.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Right, So we are hiring prosecutors both in our General
Counsel's office and of course we have some in our
Inspector General's office and many other departments also, you know,
have prosecutors, as do state officials. Prosecution is good. It's
good to show that there are consequences for fraud. In
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many case. Of course, there's a lot of people involved
in the fraud, and the number of dollars we might
get back from every end of vial is pretty small.
That's why it's also so important to make sure that we're,
you know, being very judicious going forward in sending out
new money.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Yeah, and what do you think has to happen to
people who are associated with this type of fraud to
establish a sufficient deterrent against it going forward.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
So it really is starting to look like there's a
political patronage system in the DFL, in Minnesota, probably in
a lot of other states. You know, political machines, especially
in the Democratic Party unfortunately, pop up throughout history, especially
in some big cities. And it's starting to look like
a pattern where there's a lot of people engaged in
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fraud and they're part of a political coalition with the
alliance that holds a lot of a state elected and
appointed offices. And some of them are probably mostly innocent
but sort of willing to look the other way against
from other people in their coalitions. Some are probably very
very willing and conscious participants and fraud and graft. And
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we're we're we're trying to address this at every level,
like find specific guilty individuals and prosecute them, also disrupt
a political coalition if it's if it's based on fraud,
hold state officials accountable for the work that their agencies
is doing, and uh, you know when appropriate deport people.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Well that would be that would be a very good,
uh rigamarole of consequences. Do you know if if there's
any type of immunity that appends to this particular diplomat's
conduct as a result of his role in the Somali government.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Are you going to treat it like every other case?
Speaker 3 (23:43):
I'm not sure that's that's that's a possible concerns. So far,
we've just uncovered that this is the same There was
speculation on the internet last week that these two might
be the same person, but there was always people saying, well,
it's just the same name. Maybe their cousins, Maybe it's
just two people the same name. So we just reached
the point yesterday this is the same person, and what
we do next we're still sorting out.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
We will continue to follow it.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Jim O Neil, thank you for the tremendous work of
the entire team at HHS, Mister Deputy Secretary, give everyone
our best, and we're glad we're gonna have a healthier
country as a consequence of everybody's incredible efforts.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Thank you so much. I enjoyed talking to you.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
And coming up.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
President Trump has been making major statements about voter id
find out what state has drawn his iron most recently
and what voters.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
In that state are doing about it. Next to the
mac Gates Show.
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Speaker 13 (26:53):
We want voter ID voter identification. This is the only
reason somebody doesn't want that, because they want a cheat.
Our elections are crooked as hell, and you could win
not only win elections over that, and not only win
future elections, but you'll win every debate because the public
is really angry about it.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
President Trump is right.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
If we want our borders to have integrity, if we
want our government to have integrity, then our elections must
have integrity. Again, and if it's not racist to ask
someone for ID when they want a hunting license or
a phishing license or welfare benefits, then it is certainly
not racist.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
To ask someone for an ID if they want to vote.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
You have to have an ID to get a bank account,
You have to have an ID for almost anything in
American life, and expecting that for something as privileged and
important as voting is not like the reincarnation of the
poll tax or anything. And there are some groups out
there that would have you think so so enter the
modern reforms that are at play and what is going
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to be at stake in some of the decisions that
are before various levels of government. Now in California, there
is a real degradation in voter ID. There are dropboxes everywhere.
This is a place where Zuckerbucks were deployed extensively to
try to give Democrats control of the midterms in the
twenty eighteen election, and California has gotten the ir of
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President Trump to listen.
Speaker 13 (28:20):
In California, they not only don't have voter ID, but
if an official at the voting booths, which they don't
have by the way, because it's all male, if an official,
a voting official even asks somebody for voter ID, so
would like to see your identification?
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Do you come from our country, they put them in
jail for campering.
Speaker 12 (28:43):
With the election.
Speaker 13 (28:44):
California is more corrupt than any place. California is more
corrupt than Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Now that movement for a voter ID in California is
gaining steam, we remember that in California, people are able
to basically legislate by popular demand if you have enough
signatures and can get something on the ballot that appears
before the voters in a subsequent election. That's how Gavin
Newsom was able to utilize these specific California laws to
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work to steal the Republican majority in the upcoming midterms.
But in this particular case, it seems to be working
on the side of good because we now have news
that the effort to put voter ID on the ballot
in California has now achieved more than a million signatures.
The reason that's important is you need more than eight
hundred and fifty thousand verified, and of course there's a
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certain percentage of these that get kicked out for one
reason or another. So the fact that this movement already
has more than a million signatures tells me with almost
certainty that this is going.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
To be on the ballot in California.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
And then we really get to test the theory in
one of the bluest places in the country. Whether or
not common sense can still rain on something as simple
and easy and logical as voter ID. Now, why should
people care about voter ID. There's a new interesting analysis
out that shows that it may have some correlation to
whether or not your state provides welfare benefits to illegal aliens. Wow,
(30:12):
look at that a correlation like you wouldn't believe. A
state is sixteen times more likely to have the type
of welfare policies that allow illegal aliens to get those
benefits if they don't have voter ID.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
And I guess that's because.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
In elections, constituencies are able to command a certain level
of attention from the folks who get elected. And if
you've got a bunch of illegal aliens voting because there's
no voter ID, well then you know what they want
something in return. And it seems in states that don't
have the voter ID what they get in return welfare
benefits from taxpayers. And it creates an ecosystem that is
(30:49):
absolutely rife for Fraudits what we've seen in Minnesota and
around the country. Joining us now, founder of the Election
Integrity Network and one of the great legal minds over
at the Conservative Partnership Institute. Kleida Mitchell Cleida, thanks for
rejoining the program. We were really excited to see California
get over a million signatures to put voter ID on
(31:10):
the ballot.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
What's your reaction to that momentum?
Speaker 4 (31:14):
Two million. Yeah, it's really amazing.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Two million.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Yeah, Yeah, it's really amazing. And because they have to
amend the constitution, and so they're going for a constitutional amendment,
and they also I look, one of the things I
always say I have to be careful about is sometimes
the left will put a really bad provision on the
ballot and call it voter ID, and in fact, this
(31:39):
is a really good provision. It would require that every
person who is before they can register to vote, they
have to show proof of citizenship and they have to
present a voter ID that has their photo and that
also denotes that they are citizen of the United States.
If that could be done, if that could be enacted
in California, and there's a lot to worry about between
(32:01):
here and there is it would be a game changer
in California.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Yeah, we've seen Governor Gavin Newsom really use power inappropriately
in the redistricting process. What do you think they'll do
in California to try to stop voters from being able
to make this choice.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Well, they'll try to keep it off the ballot. First
of all, I don't know that they'll be successful, because
I think that the people who are promoting this are
going to come back and fight on every point and
not just lay down. I think they have the resources
to do it. But the thing that you have to
always remember also is look what happened in Maine in
this past November. Those citizens put a voter ID provision
(32:45):
on the ballot in Maine, and the Secretary of State
in writing the ballot title what actually appears on the ballot. Remember,
not everybody pays as close attention as we do, and
the ballot title in Maine was it basically made it
sound as though if you voted for this, it would
starve your grandparents. That's literally. It was so terrible. The
(33:07):
proponents took that to court, and the court, of course
liberal judges in Maine allowed it to stay on and
so that even though people in Maine, like they do everywhere,
support voter ID, it still was defeated because of the
craziness that the Secretary of State, the left wing Secretary
of State engaged in to try to make sure that
(33:29):
people didn't even really know what they were voting on
and thought it was bad when it really is something
that they would support if they knew what it really was.
So I always have to watch that. But I think
that you know, we're in for a fight and we
should keep a good eye on it. It would be
a big important change and a good reform for California.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Yeah, would you describe it that way? You see that
you need the grassroots energy to go and get the petitions,
you need the legal energy to fend off some of
these devious tactics, and then of course you need the
advertising resources to be able to get people to see
that it's on the ballot and that it's indeed serving
a proper function. It just shouldn't be that hard to
(34:09):
get voter ID, and to have this fight across all
fifty states, or at least the states that don't have
voter ID seems really difficult.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Is there any hope.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
That Congress would be able to do something to be
helpful on this front?
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Well, funny you had mentioned that, because I've just been
working with Congressman Chip Roy and Senator Mike Lee on
some language for what I call the super Saved Act.
You know, the House is twice passed the Saved Act
last year and the year before that would require documentary
proof of citizenship to register to vote. And I suggested
(34:45):
to Senator Lee and Chip, I said, look, you know,
why don't we come back and really bolster this and
really make it put all the things in it that
we know we need to have so that we have
not only the documentary proof of citizenship, we include a
voter ID provision that you cannot vote in a federal
election unless you have a photo ID. That is what
(35:07):
it's used for voting. But also, you know, we have
to make sure all voter IDs are not the same,
and we need to make sure that the voter ID,
in order to be used for voting, it has to
be issued only to US citizen. Forty five states allow
student IDs to be used for voting, and you know
you don't have to be a citizen to get a
(35:28):
student ID. So we need to get rid of all
those by things like the utility bill or a bank statement.
But we need to have a photo ID issued to
citizens only that it says citizen right there on the
front of the of the ID and we can do that.
People support that. Eighty ninety percent of the American people
(35:49):
support voter ID. They support only citizens voting. Congress just
needs to have the wherewithal and the commitment to actually
put that bill on the floor and say, you know,
make the Democrats vote against it, make them throw the
American people that they are not supporting what it is
that the vast majority even of Democrats, what we want.
(36:13):
And you know, these things matter because the way the
federal law is written right now, it's no wonder that
the Democrats want to cram as many illegals as they
possibly can into their states because representation in the House
of Representatives is based on total population, not US citizen population,
(36:33):
and all federal funds are allocated based on population total population,
not US citizen population. So the two leavers of power
and money under the federal law are based on having
as many illegals as possible. So we have to change
those incentives, and Congress needs to take the action to
do that.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
You make the case brilliantly, and I'm so glad you're
talking to Congressman Roy and Senator Lee. They're too of
the folks who understand leverage on Capitol Hill and in
this government funding fight, there may be an opportunity to
try to squeeze in an important opportunity to really ratchet
up the voter ID effort. Cleta Mitchell, one of the
great legal minds over the Conservative Partnership Institute and founder
(37:19):
of the Election Integrity Network.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Thank you was always for coming on the program.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
Thank you so much for having I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
And coming up, we will get into President Trump's newly
announced policy around housing. He doesn't think that large institutional
investment funds should be able to buy up single family homes.
We'll talk about what that means for the housing market
and the American economy.
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Speaker 1 (40:11):
That's hudd's secretary Scott Turner, sharing President Trump's dream for
home ownership for so many more Americans, and President Trump
announcing action today to see that dream to fruition, saying
that large institutional investors should not be allowed to buy
single family homes.
Speaker 4 (40:28):
Now.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
We have seen so many young Americans strive for home
ownership and see it out of reach because of high
costs and indeed the inability to have wages under the
Biden administration that would have supported building up a sufficient
nest egg for that down payment.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
We'll discuss what it means with an expert.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
Joining us now is a senior economist at the Heritage Foundation,
Peter Saint One.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Peter, thanks for being here.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
What's your reaction to President Trump's new stated goal of
stopping these major institutional investment entities from buying single family homes.
Speaker 15 (41:00):
Yeah, so this is something that a lot of people
have been asking for both Trump space, and actually a
lot of people on the left, on the sort of
Bernie Sanders left. And the issue, of course, is that
home prices exploded during COVID. It wasn't just home prices
would drop about forty to fifty percent, depending on what
city you're talking about.
Speaker 8 (41:17):
It was also mortgage rates.
Speaker 15 (41:18):
Right, So mortgage rates early in COVID dip down to
about three percent.
Speaker 8 (41:22):
A lot of people bought a house at that point.
Speaker 15 (41:24):
Now they're stuck because home prices are six or seven
or rather home mortgage rates for six or seven percent.
Speaker 8 (41:30):
So there's two problems.
Speaker 15 (41:31):
One of them is that that is freezing the housing
market nationwide because people they're stuck in their home.
Speaker 8 (41:37):
If they try to sell, then now.
Speaker 15 (41:39):
They're mortgage is effect will be going to go cost
twice as much. The other issue is young people cannot
afford a house. Right, if houses go up fifty percent,
mortgage rates double, the total housing costs have more than
doubled in just what about five years here, So a
lot of young people they can't start families, they're stuck renting.
Speaker 8 (41:59):
There's a couple issues there.
Speaker 15 (42:00):
First off, people are much less likely to actually start
a family if they're renting Also, you're not building up
a nest egg. So there was a study a couple
of years ago that found that people who own houses
have a net worth of four hundred thousand dollars on average,
people who rent have a net worth of five thousand dollars.
You essentially cannot get on that Federal Reserve fueled money
(42:25):
stream that pumps all the bags that make stocks goes up,
it makes housing go up. If you are renting, you're
off the bus. You're essentially working until the day you die.
So Trump is trying to bring prices down, and the
one of the clearest targets is these institutions like Blackstone
that have gone in and hoovered up millions of single
family homes.
Speaker 8 (42:45):
They buy them up.
Speaker 15 (42:46):
That pushes up prices, and then they turn around and
rent them back to people. And so a lot of
people feel like this is putting millions of Americans, particularly
young Americans, on a sort of debt treadmill.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Yeah, it is interesting to track over the last forty
or fifty years how housing has just become some so
over indexed during that time relative to the costs of
American life. And I've always been curious as to this
strategy of Blackstone to acquire all these assets. It seems
like a lot to manage. But if they aren't able
to do that anymore, what type of reductions and home
(43:21):
prices do you think Americans could see with the reduced
demand by the institutional buyers.
Speaker 15 (43:27):
That's what's tricky is that the institutional buyers get a
lot of headlines, but they're only about one to two
percent of houses in the country, so they buy Nowadays,
they're buying about maybe one or two thousand a month.
Back in twenty twenty two, when those mortgage rates were
down at three percent, they were hoovering them up. There's
one point in twenty two where institutions made up about
(43:49):
one in four home purchases.
Speaker 8 (43:51):
But at this point rates are a lot higher.
Speaker 15 (43:52):
They're only buying a couple thousand. It's not going to
have a huge impact on prices.
Speaker 8 (43:57):
Now.
Speaker 15 (43:57):
Trump's sort of stuck. He had at a you Know
press interview a couple of weeks ago where he said that,
you know, the problem is I want to cut house
prices for young people, but if I bring house prices
too much, then older people are going to revolt. Because
something like two thirds of Americans and the net worth
is tied up in their home equity. So he's trying
(44:18):
to thread this needle where he's trying to make housing
affordable for young people without wiping out the retirement accounts
of older people. So there are some ways to do that.
The obvious point to focus on is the source of
the houses. In other words, you want to make new
housing cheaper, you don't necessarily want to gut existing housing.
Speaker 8 (44:38):
So the two big leverage points that are construction, those are.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Pretty yeah, those are pretty late.
Speaker 15 (44:43):
Yeah, those go ahead, They are ultimately right, yeah, because
you know, if you've got to stream of new housing
come in that you know that's supplying demand, it's going
to erode it. But he's trying not to do it
in a way that directly socks the existing homes. Now,
what they're up against is that when the Fed cuts
rates and they're currently you know, in a cutting cycle,
(45:06):
Trump has encouraged them a log in that path in
a variety of boys, threatening that you know, he might
fire Jerome pal So the Fed is cutting right now,
and we look back through history, whenever interest rates come down,
that tends to raise house price is quite a bit.
Speaker 8 (45:20):
It can get up to five percent per point of cut.
Speaker 15 (45:24):
So if the FED takes rates from four percent to
three percent, you could be looking at something like twenty
thousand hike to home prices. So really like sort of
the last man standing, you know, when you squeeze the balloon,
where can you actually.
Speaker 8 (45:36):
Get some out of it? That's the source.
Speaker 15 (45:38):
So home construction specifically, there's a ton of regulations. There's
environmental mandates, there's zoning rules, especially in blue cities, that
just drive up the cost of housing. The National home
Builders Association estimated that those add ninety four thousand dollars
to the price of a new home. That's almost twenty
five percent. Is the low hanging fruit if you can
(46:01):
go after that stuff. Of course, that ultimately most of
it needs Congress because a lot of those are regulations
that have been passed, you know, they've sort of been
snuck into various laws along the way.
Speaker 8 (46:12):
So that's really his best bet.
Speaker 15 (46:14):
Now he has been encouraging construction, the one big beautiful
bill that had some accelerated depreciation in there for construction
that's already showing up. We had this flood of multi
family apartments coming onto market. Those are ultimately going to
feed through in the house prices as well, but that's
really where he needs to focus. If he can't get
(46:34):
any cooperation on Congress there, then really last nuts man standing.
It is just you got to bring wages up, you know.
So he's been doing that, trying to reshore production. The
deportation so you know, you take these jobs that illegals
are doing for ten dollars and now in American's doing
it for twenty dollars. The deportations are actually even making
a dent in housing prices, you know. So recently we
(46:55):
saw that rental prices nationwide are actually starting to decline,
specific in deportation heavy cities like Austin. So deportations is
making a dent, but really construction is where is probably
the next area that he's going to go after.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
Senior economist at the Heritage Foundation, Peter saint One, thanks
as always for coming on and.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
Sharing your expertise.
Speaker 8 (47:19):
Thanks for having me on, Matt, and.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
Coming up, we return to our coverage if the new
and improved food Pyramid, what it means for your family
and health and how to make sure you're complying by
not consuming all of those nasty seed oils.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
Will go over it with an expert and family physician.
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Speaker 1 (49:55):
I am so stoked about this change to the food pyramid,
the ability to eat eat more proteins, more meat without
anybody's judgment. But you might be surprised at some of
the things that are harmful that we now know more
about and how you might be consuming them. So we
wanted to bring in an expert who's been studying this
and can give you great advice about how to make
your family healthier. Doctor Kate Shanahan is joining us now.
(50:18):
She's the author of Dark Calories, How Vegetable oils Destroy
Our Health. Doctor Shanahan, thanks so much for joining me.
This was amazing news when we saw Secretary Kennedy reinvigorating
the food pyramid.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
What stood out to you?
Speaker 9 (50:32):
The main thing is that the seed oils have finally
been called out as the ultra processed foods that they
truly are, which is really the most important first step
towards exposing their actual health effects. They have not been questioned.
Seed oils have been promoted as healthy for so many
(50:53):
years it has almost become nutritional heresy to even raise
the question what are their true health effects? And there's
this assumption that they have been closely scrutinized, but they haven't.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
So my wife is a holy warrior against the seed oils,
and I was surprised to learn how many things they
can be in that you wouldn't expect. How do you
see some of the families that you serve consuming seed oils,
maybe without even knowing they're doing something really harmful to
their body?
Speaker 9 (51:27):
Well, yeah, the first thing that I tell people is
what even are seed oils that are problematic?
Speaker 2 (51:33):
Right?
Speaker 9 (51:33):
Because because this area has been so neglected scientifically nutritionally,
there isn't even really an official definition to help people
understand what are the problematic seed oils versus the seed
oils that are perfectly healthy, because they are not all bad.
So I've identified the eight that are problematic. And that's
really the first step that people need to take is
(51:58):
memorizing these eight oils. So I've given it a name.
It's hopefully a little bit catchy. Help you remember that
there are eight oils and the name is the Hateful eight.
And what are they? Well, there's corn, canola, cotton seeds,
so three seeds there to memorize another mnemonic. Then it's soyt, sunflower, safflowers,
(52:21):
so three s's, and then rice brand and grape seed.
But those first six are the most important ones to memorize.
To look for on ingredients labels, because they are everywhere
in the store. Once you start looking for these things,
you are going to find them popping up in the
strangest places. So they are in salad dressings and things
that are promoted as healthy. They're in mayonnaise. It's very
(52:44):
hard used to be harder, but hard to find mayonnaise
that doesn't have one of the seed oils. You can
now get it with avocado oil. But they're even in
things like dried fruit and veggie chips they're in. So
many parents tell me that they're really disappointed to find
out that they are in those yellow goldfish because those
yellow goldfish somehow have this healthy glow and they're super
(53:06):
popular among little babies. So they are in probably eighty
percent of the products in the store that even have
an ingredients list. And here's the real kicker is the
sheer quantity that the average person is consuming without even
knowing it is at least twenty percent of their calories,
(53:28):
and maybe as high as thirty percent. And I have
to say, like maybe, and at least we're not sure.
Speaker 2 (53:34):
That's insane thirty percent of your calori.
Speaker 1 (53:37):
Wait, hold on if you told if you told the
average family that thirty percent of the calories they're consuming
come from seed oils, they would say, oh, no, that's
not us, that's other people. But this is working its
way into the diet. What are some of the healthy
things that you think we now can really embrace? You know,
the secretary was talking about lean proteins, also not having
(54:00):
the war on saturated fats. What advice would you give
people on that front?
Speaker 9 (54:06):
Yeah, so butter is back sort of, so there's a
little bit of an issue with this new set of guidelines.
And I don't blame the administration for doing this. What
they had to do was kind of straw both worlds.
They had to still acknowledge that there's because there's not
(54:28):
been very much research at all, there really isn't a
lot of evidence that these seat to oils are healthy.
And contrarily, because so much of the research done over
the past ninety since the nineteen nineties, the past forty
years or so has been done with the predetermined conclusion
that saturated fat is bad, they didn't have enough evidence
(54:49):
to say, okay, go you know, it's basically an open
season on butter and tallow and as much of that
as you want, like cheese, a whole fat dairy. So
it's a little bit schizophrenic. And I think the most
important thing to do for the average consumer is to
realize that this administration has made fantastic progress, but they
(55:14):
were working within a body of evidence that has been
impaired for the past forty or fifty years by this
restriction that was never based on evidence. So it will
be a little bit confusing when you hear people talking
about it. It'll be you'll hear some people saying, well,
there's still you know, no evidence that saturated fat is
(55:37):
you know, healthy to eat, and so we still want
you to limit your total intake at ten percent of
total daily calories, which is going to be like, okay,
so now you have one cup of milk and maybe
a half of a tablespoon of butter and that's it.
That's that's not really going to feel satisfying. But that
cap is you know, really doesn't matter to the hour consumer.
(56:01):
It does, though, matter to the captive audience of people
who have to eat what's served them in you know,
school systems, universities, hospitals, prisons, nursing homes, that's where it
really matters. But to the consumer, who is free to
do what they want, they can they can take this
(56:22):
what I'm saying at face value that there is there's
no evidence. The cap is only there because of kind
of a residual of the previous ideology that really is
a failed ideology.
Speaker 2 (56:34):
Now, yeah, and it is.
Speaker 1 (56:37):
This is just such a win for people who've been
fighting against processed foods, and it's going to be amazing
to see the societal effects of getting past this. Doctor
Kate Shanahan, a family physician and author of dark calories.
She takes the war to the vegetable oils that are
destroying our health. Thank you so much for joining me
and sharing your expertise.
Speaker 9 (56:57):
Thank you, Matt.
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Speaker 2 (00:38):
Shaking up Washington, d C. We're breaking the fever.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Do you ever watch this guy on television.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
It's like a machine.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
He's great.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Matt Gates, as we join you this evening, a thirty
seven year old woman is dead after a confrontation with
ice left her shot.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
That is some thing that has.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
A lot of people having an ignited discussion about ice enforcement.
We certainly see that enforcement leading to safer streets and
communities that no longer are terrorized by violent illegal immigrants.
We've seen protests also that have ranged from peaceful and
appropriate under the First Amendment to violent, destructive and certainly
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within the legal definition of obstruction of justice. We saw
the Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, Christy Nome,
addressed the shooting take a listen.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
Was an active domestic terrorism. What happened was our ice
officers were out in enforcement action. They got stuck in
the snow because of the adverse weather that is in Minneapolis.
They were attempting to push out their vehicle and a
woman attacked them and those surrounding them and attempted to
run them over and ram them with her vehicle. An
officer of ours acted quickly and defensively shot to protect
(01:54):
himself and the people around him. And my understanding is
is that she was hit and is is ceased. We're
continuing to gather more information, but this goes to show
the assaults that are ice officers in our law enforcement
are under every single day.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
This operation will continue.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
It is for the safety and defense of the country,
and so many patriotic Americans have signed up to serve
in ice to see that we are rid of the
violent migrants who were allowed to come here with open
borders during the Biden administration. Now, in this particular event,
it does appear that there are a lot of different
things that point to an act of domestic terrorism. Let's
(02:34):
take a look frame by frame in slow motion. This
was released by the Department of Homeland Scurity. We also
(03:01):
have fresh reaction tonight from Minnesota Mayor Jacob Frye.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Take a listen.
Speaker 6 (03:06):
They are not here to cause safety in this city.
Speaker 7 (03:12):
What they are doing is not to provide safety in America.
Speaker 8 (03:16):
What they are doing is causing chaos and distrust to Ice.
Get the he out of Minneapolis.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
That's not how it works, Mayor fry mister tough guy,
the guy who was on his knees weeping after the
events that led to the Summer of protests in twenty
twenty one. But Jacob fry now posting up on ICE
is about one of the strangest things we've seen because
the chaos, the unruliness, the violence occurred at our southern
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border when Joe Biden and Kamala Harris allowed policies to
take hold that put the cartels and criminals in charge,
and then that started affecting the interior of the country.
From Aurora Colorado to Minnesota and beyond. It is certainly
something that we're watching closely. And we also have another
story that has got our attention. That's in Arizona where
(04:10):
the Supreme Court had a bomb threat. Tick listen, We've
begin with breaking news evacuations near the state capitol.
Speaker 9 (04:16):
DPS and the ATF are investigating a suspicious package at
the State Supreme Court building. Multiple other buildings nearby also evacuated.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Law enforcement confirming to those staff members that a suspicious
package in the mailroom tested positive for homemade explosives.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Joining US now former Arizona sheriff and current candidate for
the United States Congress, Republican Mark Lamb, Sheriff Lamb, thanks
for being here. We were going to talk about what's
going on in Arizona the Supreme Court, but before we
get there, this shooting involving an ICE officer and this
thirty seven year old woman. What are you seeing in
that event that catches your eye as a lawman.
Speaker 10 (04:56):
Well, it catches my eyes. This is a justified shooting. Look,
first of all, these people are activists. They continue to
get in the way. You know, this mayor wants to
claim that Ice is the one causing the problems. Ice
is doing the job that Congress and the federal government
is set forth for them. They're removing the people that
came into this country illegally, and as you put, this
was under.
Speaker 6 (05:14):
The Biden administration.
Speaker 10 (05:17):
Then you have these people that show up and continue
to condemn that and get in the way. And then
this lady tried to take her vehicle and use it
as a weapon towards them. Contrary to what anybody else
may say.
Speaker 6 (05:27):
This is a justified shooting.
Speaker 10 (05:29):
That guy feared for his life, his physical well being,
and he had every right to use lethal force in
that situation. What would have prevented this is if that
lady would have stayed home and allowed our federal agents
to do their job.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yeah, and when federal agents approach a car, it's a
very unknowable set of facts with the driver, with what
might be in that car. Talk a little bit about
what might have been going through those agents' mind as
they were confronting someone that was getting in the way
of the administration of justice.
Speaker 10 (06:02):
Well, you can clearly see her vehicle is placed in
such a way that is blocking the street. When one
of the guys gets out approaches the car, like you said,
you don't know what she's gotten there. She clearly is
not okay with what Ice is doing because she was
condemning ized per what Minnesota officials have said. So they
said she's a good person, but she was out there
condemning Ice. Then she takes her vehicle, puts it in
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drive while an officer and agent is standing in front
of that vehicle.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
Either he's gonna get.
Speaker 10 (06:32):
Run over, which could hurt him long term physical damage,
or it potentially kill him. And that is the that's
the requirement for lethal force. Look, I don't want to
see the loss of life. I wish this mother or
this woman daughter wouldn't have been there and lost her life.
But that that agent has every right to go home
safely to his family, and he was doing his job,
(06:53):
a job that has been set forth, like I said,
by Congress. Now they can decide. Walt says, Oh, we're
gonna look into this and we're gonna been sure there's justice. Look,
under the sixth Amendment, they are under the supremacy clause.
Speaker 6 (07:05):
They have the right to be there. They're doing their job.
Speaker 10 (07:08):
And so anything that the state would do is going
to be qualified or is going to be covered under
the supremacy clause.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
You know, Sheriff, you mentioned the Minnesota mayor. And while
we support the right to protest, an active ICE enforcement
action is no place for a protest, obviously. And when
we have politicians like Mayor Fry and Governor Walls demonizing
ICE calling for resistance against the Trump administration's immigration enforcement efforts,
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don't you think that puts people in danger, whether they're
the sympathetic protesters or the law enforcement officials.
Speaker 10 (07:51):
Well, first of all, this is the same mayor where
we're now finding out billions of dollars a fraud have
occurred in the same community. This man goes out and
speaks Somali language to all the folks there, so I
got to question what a role he played in all
of that fraud.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
But then you go out and he's actually encouraging this
type of behavior to stand up against them. The First
Amendment doesn't mention protest.
Speaker 10 (08:15):
It says that you have the right to peaceably assemble
to readdress grievances with your government. If you're out there
trying to run over agents, I'm sorry that's not covered
under peaceably assembling. And this group, this hate and violence
that continues to come out from the left, ANDOK, Matt,
you know this as well as I do. Many of
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these folks are paid agitators groups, activist groups that are
actually paying people to show up and get in the
way of ICE agents to make it impossible for them
to do their job. And Americans need to stand up
and say, We've had enough of all of your hateful,
violent protests. Let our agents do their job and remove
these folks that are in this country illegally breaking the law.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
I also want to get your reaction to what we're
seeing in Arizona, this bomb threat at the Supreme Court.
What stands out to you as those facts are unfolding.
Speaker 10 (09:10):
Well, clearly somebody noticed the package. Obviously there's not a
lot of details yet because it's an ongoing investigation.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
They're trying to investigate to find out.
Speaker 10 (09:18):
Let's hope it doesn't take as long as the pipe
bomber the Democrat convention took. But they've got to figure
out a They did already ascertain that this did have
explosive compounds in it. DPS has a bomb unit, so
does ATF. They're the ones that respond. That's normal. Then
they'll show up, they'll take that and now we're going
(09:39):
to try to backtrack, look at cameras, look at cell
phone pings, look at a lot of different evidence to
find out who might have placed that package or sent
that package to the court. And so there's a lot
of investigation that still has to be done. But they
did determine that there were explosive compounds in this so
thankfully somebody recognized it as a range package and they
(10:01):
were able to get the law enforcement there to handle
it appropriately.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yeah, it's terrible that people even resort to this as
a mechanism of dispute resolution, especially at courts where people
are supposed to be able to go to resolve their disputes.
And Sheriff, you're running for Congress right now, and they're
in the middle of this big budget fight, and I'm
curious if you were there on the floor of the
House of Representatives now, what would you be fighting for
(10:30):
to be included in the legislation that's ultimately going to
fund the government for the coming year.
Speaker 10 (10:37):
Matt, I'd be fighting for the American people. We're being
frauded every day, a lot of the tax dollars that
we work hard to make, or being sent all over
the world We've.
Speaker 6 (10:45):
Got to stop that.
Speaker 10 (10:46):
We've got to stop funding the fraud that exists in
this country. I think we're only at the tip of
the iceberg of the amount of fraud that's gone on
with all of these government programs. I would be fighting
for the American people, and that's I think the American
people want to see from their politicians, especially when it
comes to budgeting. We work hard for the dollars we have.
(11:07):
The founding fathers be rolling over in their graves to
see how much we are being taxed, whether it's income tax,
sales tax, property tax, debt tax. It's out of control,
and all this money is going towards bad programs that
bad politicians have implemented throughout the years.
Speaker 6 (11:24):
And what I would love to see is Congress and Senate.
Speaker 10 (11:27):
Start to peel all that back and start to make
it to where we don't have this level of fraud
and we're not sending money all over the world. That's
what the American people want, and I hope to be
their representative there to fight for the American people.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
I think that's what needs to happen.
Speaker 10 (11:43):
And if anybody else thinks the same, please go to
Marklamb dot us because that could use your support.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Former Arizona Sheriff Mark Lamb, current Republican candidate for the
United States Congress, one of the absolute warriors in the
MAGA movement.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Thanks so much for joining us and sharing our expertise.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
Thank you, Matt, God bless your brother.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
And coming up, we continue to cover this fraud and
who is involved. You won't believe the high ranking official
of a foreign government that is now being implicated by
an inspector general's report. We've got a senior official from
the Trump administration here to go through that report and
name names next on the Matt Gates Show.
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Today marks the decisive change in federal nutrition policy. The
hard Truth is that our government has been lying to
us protect corporate profit taking. Federal policy promoted and subsidized
highly processed foods and refined carbohy trades and turned the
blind eye to the disastrous consequences. Today the law stop
(15:00):
protein and healthy fats are essential and we're wrongly discouraged
in prior dietary guidelines. We are ending the war unsaturated fats.
Added sugars, especially sugar sweetened beverages, drive metabolic disease, and
today our government declares war unadded sugar. As Secretary of
(15:21):
Health and Human Services, my message is clear, eat real food.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Our FK Junior making the food pyramid a great again.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
I am so here for this.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
I recall how many hours were spent during my time
in public education hearing that you had to have your
starchy carbs, your potatoes, your pastas that that needed to occupy.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
A major part of the plate. And it was nonsense.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
And like many of the forever wars that exist, we
also believe the war on saturated fats should end.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
This is terrific.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
It is exactly what was promised in the Make America
Healthy agenda on the campaign trail, and we certainly see
our FKA Junior executing on.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
That with great effect.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Now there is other news coming out of HHS that
caught our attention. You know, we've been watching very closely
this fraud situation in Minnesota. The impacts politically, the impacts
really on how we think about government safety net programs
and how we think about the taxes that we pay
to go support them. We don't want to see those
funds ending up in the hands of East African jihadists.
(16:28):
And we also don't want them ending up in the
hands of fraud fezers in the Somali government. And that
is the new allegation coming out of HHS this week.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Enter Abu khar Osman.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
This guy is Somalia's permanent ambassador to the United Nations.
It's the same position Michael Waltz holds for the United
States of America, and he's the President of the Security Council,
which is a really important position. And now AHHS is
saying that this high ranking official in the Somali government
is involved in this crazy Somali fraud that we've continued
(17:04):
to cover in Minnesota. We want to go right to
the story and to the highest source we can, right
to HHS and the Trump administration. Joining us now is
the Deputy Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services,
Jim O'Neill. Mister Deputy Secretary, thanks for joining us. Before
we get to this incredible discovery regarding a senior Somali
(17:25):
officials involvement in these fraud concerns. Secretary Kennedy made news
with a reorientation of the food pyramid and we are
just so here for it. Wanted to give you the
chance to reflect on how you think the new and
improved food pyramid will affect public health in the country.
Speaker 12 (17:43):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Absolutely, it's so exciting. So unfortunately, for the past few
decades we've had official dietary advice from the government that's
basically junk science supporting junk food, and that finally changed
today in Secretary Kennedy and Secretary rawlins for the first
time ever, real nutrition guidance, based on real, rigorous science,
(18:06):
based on real nutrition. And that is a great day
for America.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
No question about it.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Now, we're also following closely the Department's work to try
to suss out what's been going on in Minnesota, and
we caught note of this senior official in the Somali
government's attachment to the issue, tell us what's going on.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Yeah, So, our Inspector General just confirmed for me yesterday
that Ambassador ab Abukar Dahir Osman, he is the President
of the Security Council and the Ambassador to the UN
from Somalia, he used to be the owner and CEO
of Progressive health Care Services, which is a home health
(18:46):
agency in Cincinnati, and during the period he was running it,
his company engaged in conduct that resulted in our department
excluding them from billing the federal health care programs. So
can't say for sure if he was personally responsible, but
it is definitely a very interesting link between the Somalian
(19:07):
government and healthcare fraud in America.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
What else have we learned the Inspector General's report and
how can the Department implement better controls on public funds?
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Right?
Speaker 3 (19:19):
So, we have a responsibility to make sure that federal
programs that we run do not go to fraud, and
that has a backward looking angle in terms of investigating
past fraud and prosecuting and recouping money. It also has
a sort of immediate this week where we check receipts
and ensure that we can audit what's happened in the
(19:42):
recent past.
Speaker 8 (19:43):
And then it also has.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
A going forward point which is frankly the most efficient,
which is just making sure that we don't send any
new money to states unless we are sure that it
is not going to be handed over to fraud by
the state officials.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
What are those indices of systems that you think are
most likely to be vulnerable to fraud in the various states.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Well, there's a we have a technical solution called defend
the spend where when states send us a request for money,
instead of just shipping the money out the door, we
automatically write back and say, please show us some evidence.
Please show us some confirmation that this is a real entity,
a real provider, a real hospital, a real daycare center
(20:28):
before we send the money. And that puts the onus
on the state officials. We're not sending it directly to
the providers.
Speaker 8 (20:33):
Who could fake something.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
It's the state officials have to send us some specific
reassurance for every single bill, proving to at least their
satisfaction and their responsibility that it's real. And then that's
the technical side, and then the legal side is, you know,
we think that we want to you know, double check
(20:56):
of what you know, voters often can't do for their
state officials individuals, which is ensure that there's integrity at
every level of every state program that's federally funded and
every federal program.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
And when we find out that there are these real
deviations from those best practices, what are the envelope of
options available for the department to refer people for prosecution
or administer consequences to people like this this ambassador who
was involved in the shady dealings.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Right, So we are hiring prosecutors both in our General
Counsel's office and of course we have some in our
Inspector General's office and many other departments also, you know,
have prosecutors, as do state officials. Prosecution is good. It's
good to show that there are consequences for fraud. In
(21:52):
many case. Of course, there's a lot of people involved
in the fraud, and the number of dollars we might
get back from every end of vial is pretty small.
That's why it's also so important to make sure that we're,
you know, being very judicious going forward in sending out
new money.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Yeah, and what do you think has to happen to
people who are associated with this type of fraud to
establish a sufficient deterrent against it going forward.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
So it really is starting to look like there's a
political patronage system in the DFL, in Minnesota, probably in
a lot of other states. You know, political machines, especially
in the Democratic Party unfortunately, pop up throughout history, especially
in some big cities. And it's starting to look like
a pattern where there's a lot of people engaged in
(22:41):
fraud and they're part of a political coalition with the
alliance that holds a lot of a state elected and
appointed offices. And some of them are probably mostly innocent
but sort of willing to look the other way against
from other people in their coalitions. Some are probably very
very willing and conscious participants and fraud and graft. And
(23:02):
we're we're we're trying to address this at every level,
like find specific guilty individuals and prosecute them, also disrupt
a political coalition if it's if it's based on fraud,
hold state officials accountable for the work that their agencies
is doing, and uh, you know when appropriate deport people.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Well that would be that would be a very good,
uh rigamarole of consequences. Do you know if if there's
any type of immunity that appends to this particular diplomat's
conduct as a result of his role in the Somali government.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Are you going to treat it like every other case?
Speaker 3 (23:43):
I'm not sure that's that's that's a possible concerns. So far,
we've just uncovered that this is the same There was
speculation on the internet last week that these two might
be the same person, but there was always people saying, well,
it's just the same name. Maybe their cousins, Maybe it's
just two people the same name. So we just reached
the point yesterday this is the same person, and what
we do next we're still sorting out.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
We will continue to follow it.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Jim O Neil, thank you for the tremendous work of
the entire team at HHS, Mister Deputy Secretary, give everyone
our best, and we're glad we're gonna have a healthier
country as a consequence of everybody's incredible efforts.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Thank you so much. I enjoyed talking to you.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
And coming up.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
President Trump has been making major statements about voter id
find out what state has drawn his iron most recently
and what voters.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
In that state are doing about it. Next to the
mac Gates Show.
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Speaker 13 (26:53):
We want voter ID voter identification. This is the only
reason somebody doesn't want that, because they want a cheat.
Our elections are crooked as hell, and you could win
not only win elections over that, and not only win
future elections, but you'll win every debate because the public
is really angry about it.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
President Trump is right.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
If we want our borders to have integrity, if we
want our government to have integrity, then our elections must
have integrity. Again, and if it's not racist to ask
someone for ID when they want a hunting license or
a phishing license or welfare benefits, then it is certainly
not racist.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
To ask someone for an ID if they want to vote.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
You have to have an ID to get a bank account,
You have to have an ID for almost anything in
American life, and expecting that for something as privileged and
important as voting is not like the reincarnation of the
poll tax or anything. And there are some groups out
there that would have you think so so enter the
modern reforms that are at play and what is going
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to be at stake in some of the decisions that
are before various levels of government. Now in California, there
is a real degradation in voter ID. There are dropboxes everywhere.
This is a place where Zuckerbucks were deployed extensively to
try to give Democrats control of the midterms in the
twenty eighteen election, and California has gotten the ir of
(28:18):
President Trump to listen.
Speaker 13 (28:20):
In California, they not only don't have voter ID, but
if an official at the voting booths, which they don't
have by the way, because it's all male, if an official,
a voting official even asks somebody for voter ID, so
would like to see your identification?
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Do you come from our country, they put them in
jail for campering.
Speaker 12 (28:43):
With the election.
Speaker 13 (28:44):
California is more corrupt than any place. California is more
corrupt than Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Now that movement for a voter ID in California is
gaining steam, we remember that in California, people are able
to basically legislate by popular demand if you have enough
signatures and can get something on the ballot that appears
before the voters in a subsequent election. That's how Gavin
Newsom was able to utilize these specific California laws to
(29:13):
work to steal the Republican majority in the upcoming midterms.
But in this particular case, it seems to be working
on the side of good because we now have news
that the effort to put voter ID on the ballot
in California has now achieved more than a million signatures.
The reason that's important is you need more than eight
hundred and fifty thousand verified, and of course there's a
(29:34):
certain percentage of these that get kicked out for one
reason or another. So the fact that this movement already
has more than a million signatures tells me with almost
certainty that this is going.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
To be on the ballot in California.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
And then we really get to test the theory in
one of the bluest places in the country. Whether or
not common sense can still rain on something as simple
and easy and logical as voter ID. Now, why should
people care about voter ID. There's a new interesting analysis
out that shows that it may have some correlation to
whether or not your state provides welfare benefits to illegal aliens. Wow,
(30:12):
look at that a correlation like you wouldn't believe. A
state is sixteen times more likely to have the type
of welfare policies that allow illegal aliens to get those
benefits if they don't have voter ID.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
And I guess that's because.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
In elections, constituencies are able to command a certain level
of attention from the folks who get elected. And if
you've got a bunch of illegal aliens voting because there's
no voter ID, well then you know what they want
something in return. And it seems in states that don't
have the voter ID what they get in return welfare
benefits from taxpayers. And it creates an ecosystem that is
(30:49):
absolutely rife for Fraudits what we've seen in Minnesota and
around the country. Joining us now, founder of the Election
Integrity Network and one of the great legal minds over
at the Conservative Partnership Institute. Kleida Mitchell Cleida, thanks for
rejoining the program. We were really excited to see California
get over a million signatures to put voter ID on
(31:10):
the ballot.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
What's your reaction to that momentum?
Speaker 4 (31:14):
Two million. Yeah, it's really amazing.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Two million.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Yeah, Yeah, it's really amazing. And because they have to
amend the constitution, and so they're going for a constitutional amendment,
and they also I look, one of the things I
always say I have to be careful about is sometimes
the left will put a really bad provision on the
ballot and call it voter ID, and in fact, this
(31:39):
is a really good provision. It would require that every
person who is before they can register to vote, they
have to show proof of citizenship and they have to
present a voter ID that has their photo and that
also denotes that they are citizen of the United States.
If that could be done, if that could be enacted
in California, and there's a lot to worry about between
(32:01):
here and there is it would be a game changer
in California.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Yeah, we've seen Governor Gavin Newsom really use power inappropriately
in the redistricting process. What do you think they'll do
in California to try to stop voters from being able
to make this choice.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Well, they'll try to keep it off the ballot. First
of all, I don't know that they'll be successful, because
I think that the people who are promoting this are
going to come back and fight on every point and
not just lay down. I think they have the resources
to do it. But the thing that you have to
always remember also is look what happened in Maine in
this past November. Those citizens put a voter ID provision
(32:45):
on the ballot in Maine, and the Secretary of State
in writing the ballot title what actually appears on the ballot. Remember,
not everybody pays as close attention as we do, and
the ballot title in Maine was it basically made it
sound as though if you voted for this, it would
starve your grandparents. That's literally. It was so terrible. The
(33:07):
proponents took that to court, and the court, of course
liberal judges in Maine allowed it to stay on and
so that even though people in Maine, like they do everywhere,
support voter ID, it still was defeated because of the
craziness that the Secretary of State, the left wing Secretary
of State engaged in to try to make sure that
(33:29):
people didn't even really know what they were voting on
and thought it was bad when it really is something
that they would support if they knew what it really was.
So I always have to watch that. But I think
that you know, we're in for a fight and we
should keep a good eye on it. It would be
a big important change and a good reform for California.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Yeah, would you describe it that way? You see that
you need the grassroots energy to go and get the petitions,
you need the legal energy to fend off some of
these devious tactics, and then of course you need the
advertising resources to be able to get people to see
that it's on the ballot and that it's indeed serving
a proper function. It just shouldn't be that hard to
(34:09):
get voter ID, and to have this fight across all
fifty states, or at least the states that don't have
voter ID seems really difficult.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Is there any hope.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
That Congress would be able to do something to be
helpful on this front?
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Well, funny you had mentioned that, because I've just been
working with Congressman Chip Roy and Senator Mike Lee on
some language for what I call the super Saved Act.
You know, the House is twice passed the Saved Act
last year and the year before that would require documentary
proof of citizenship to register to vote. And I suggested
(34:45):
to Senator Lee and Chip, I said, look, you know,
why don't we come back and really bolster this and
really make it put all the things in it that
we know we need to have so that we have
not only the documentary proof of citizenship, we include a
voter ID provision that you cannot vote in a federal
election unless you have a photo ID. That is what
(35:07):
it's used for voting. But also, you know, we have
to make sure all voter IDs are not the same,
and we need to make sure that the voter ID,
in order to be used for voting, it has to
be issued only to US citizen. Forty five states allow
student IDs to be used for voting, and you know
you don't have to be a citizen to get a
(35:28):
student ID. So we need to get rid of all
those by things like the utility bill or a bank statement.
But we need to have a photo ID issued to
citizens only that it says citizen right there on the
front of the of the ID and we can do that.
People support that. Eighty ninety percent of the American people
(35:49):
support voter ID. They support only citizens voting. Congress just
needs to have the wherewithal and the commitment to actually
put that bill on the floor and say, you know,
make the Democrats vote against it, make them throw the
American people that they are not supporting what it is
that the vast majority even of Democrats, what we want.
(36:13):
And you know, these things matter because the way the
federal law is written right now, it's no wonder that
the Democrats want to cram as many illegals as they
possibly can into their states because representation in the House
of Representatives is based on total population, not US citizen population,
(36:33):
and all federal funds are allocated based on population total population,
not US citizen population. So the two leavers of power
and money under the federal law are based on having
as many illegals as possible. So we have to change
those incentives, and Congress needs to take the action to
do that.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
You make the case brilliantly, and I'm so glad you're
talking to Congressman Roy and Senator Lee. They're too of
the folks who understand leverage on Capitol Hill and in
this government funding fight, there may be an opportunity to
try to squeeze in an important opportunity to really ratchet
up the voter ID effort. Cleta Mitchell, one of the
great legal minds over the Conservative Partnership Institute and founder
(37:19):
of the Election Integrity Network.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Thank you was always for coming on the program.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
Thank you so much for having I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
And coming up, we will get into President Trump's newly
announced policy around housing. He doesn't think that large institutional
investment funds should be able to buy up single family homes.
We'll talk about what that means for the housing market
and the American economy.
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At HUD, we will remain steadfast for the American people.
I'm excited to build upon our work this year and
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Speaker 1 (40:11):
That's hudd's secretary Scott Turner, sharing President Trump's dream for
home ownership for so many more Americans, and President Trump
announcing action today to see that dream to fruition, saying
that large institutional investors should not be allowed to buy
single family homes.
Speaker 4 (40:28):
Now.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
We have seen so many young Americans strive for home
ownership and see it out of reach because of high
costs and indeed the inability to have wages under the
Biden administration that would have supported building up a sufficient
nest egg for that down payment.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
We'll discuss what it means with an expert.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
Joining us now is a senior economist at the Heritage Foundation,
Peter Saint One.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Peter, thanks for being here.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
What's your reaction to President Trump's new stated goal of
stopping these major institutional investment entities from buying single family homes.
Speaker 15 (41:00):
Yeah, so this is something that a lot of people
have been asking for both Trump space, and actually a
lot of people on the left, on the sort of
Bernie Sanders left. And the issue, of course, is that
home prices exploded during COVID. It wasn't just home prices
would drop about forty to fifty percent, depending on what
city you're talking about.
Speaker 8 (41:17):
It was also mortgage rates.
Speaker 15 (41:18):
Right, So mortgage rates early in COVID dip down to
about three percent.
Speaker 8 (41:22):
A lot of people bought a house at that point.
Speaker 15 (41:24):
Now they're stuck because home prices are six or seven
or rather home mortgage rates for six or seven percent.
Speaker 8 (41:30):
So there's two problems.
Speaker 15 (41:31):
One of them is that that is freezing the housing
market nationwide because people they're stuck in their home.
Speaker 8 (41:37):
If they try to sell, then now.
Speaker 15 (41:39):
They're mortgage is effect will be going to go cost
twice as much. The other issue is young people cannot
afford a house. Right, if houses go up fifty percent,
mortgage rates double, the total housing costs have more than
doubled in just what about five years here, So a
lot of young people they can't start families, they're stuck renting.
Speaker 8 (41:59):
There's a couple issues there.
Speaker 15 (42:00):
First off, people are much less likely to actually start
a family if they're renting Also, you're not building up
a nest egg. So there was a study a couple
of years ago that found that people who own houses
have a net worth of four hundred thousand dollars on average,
people who rent have a net worth of five thousand dollars.
You essentially cannot get on that Federal Reserve fueled money
(42:25):
stream that pumps all the bags that make stocks goes up,
it makes housing go up. If you are renting, you're
off the bus. You're essentially working until the day you die.
So Trump is trying to bring prices down, and the
one of the clearest targets is these institutions like Blackstone
that have gone in and hoovered up millions of single
family homes.
Speaker 8 (42:45):
They buy them up.
Speaker 15 (42:46):
That pushes up prices, and then they turn around and
rent them back to people. And so a lot of
people feel like this is putting millions of Americans, particularly
young Americans, on a sort of debt treadmill.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Yeah, it is interesting to track over the last forty
or fifty years how housing has just become some so
over indexed during that time relative to the costs of
American life. And I've always been curious as to this
strategy of Blackstone to acquire all these assets. It seems
like a lot to manage. But if they aren't able
to do that anymore, what type of reductions and home
(43:21):
prices do you think Americans could see with the reduced
demand by the institutional buyers.
Speaker 15 (43:27):
That's what's tricky is that the institutional buyers get a
lot of headlines, but they're only about one to two
percent of houses in the country, so they buy Nowadays,
they're buying about maybe one or two thousand a month.
Back in twenty twenty two, when those mortgage rates were
down at three percent, they were hoovering them up. There's
one point in twenty two where institutions made up about
(43:49):
one in four home purchases.
Speaker 8 (43:51):
But at this point rates are a lot higher.
Speaker 15 (43:52):
They're only buying a couple thousand. It's not going to
have a huge impact on prices.
Speaker 8 (43:57):
Now.
Speaker 15 (43:57):
Trump's sort of stuck. He had at a you Know
press interview a couple of weeks ago where he said that,
you know, the problem is I want to cut house
prices for young people, but if I bring house prices
too much, then older people are going to revolt. Because
something like two thirds of Americans and the net worth
is tied up in their home equity. So he's trying
(44:18):
to thread this needle where he's trying to make housing
affordable for young people without wiping out the retirement accounts
of older people. So there are some ways to do that.
The obvious point to focus on is the source of
the houses. In other words, you want to make new
housing cheaper, you don't necessarily want to gut existing housing.
Speaker 8 (44:38):
So the two big leverage points that are construction, those are.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Pretty yeah, those are pretty late.
Speaker 15 (44:43):
Yeah, those go ahead, They are ultimately right, yeah, because
you know, if you've got to stream of new housing
come in that you know that's supplying demand, it's going
to erode it. But he's trying not to do it
in a way that directly socks the existing homes. Now,
what they're up against is that when the Fed cuts
rates and they're currently you know, in a cutting cycle,
(45:06):
Trump has encouraged them a log in that path in
a variety of boys, threatening that you know, he might
fire Jerome pal So the Fed is cutting right now,
and we look back through history, whenever interest rates come down,
that tends to raise house price is quite a bit.
Speaker 8 (45:20):
It can get up to five percent per point of cut.
Speaker 15 (45:24):
So if the FED takes rates from four percent to
three percent, you could be looking at something like twenty
thousand hike to home prices. So really like sort of
the last man standing, you know, when you squeeze the balloon,
where can you actually.
Speaker 8 (45:36):
Get some out of it? That's the source.
Speaker 15 (45:38):
So home construction specifically, there's a ton of regulations. There's
environmental mandates, there's zoning rules, especially in blue cities, that
just drive up the cost of housing. The National home
Builders Association estimated that those add ninety four thousand dollars
to the price of a new home. That's almost twenty
five percent. Is the low hanging fruit if you can
(46:01):
go after that stuff. Of course, that ultimately most of
it needs Congress because a lot of those are regulations
that have been passed, you know, they've sort of been
snuck into various laws along the way.
Speaker 8 (46:12):
So that's really his best bet.
Speaker 15 (46:14):
Now he has been encouraging construction, the one big beautiful
bill that had some accelerated depreciation in there for construction
that's already showing up. We had this flood of multi
family apartments coming onto market. Those are ultimately going to
feed through in the house prices as well, but that's
really where he needs to focus. If he can't get
(46:34):
any cooperation on Congress there, then really last nuts man standing.
It is just you got to bring wages up, you know.
So he's been doing that, trying to reshore production. The
deportation so you know, you take these jobs that illegals
are doing for ten dollars and now in American's doing
it for twenty dollars. The deportations are actually even making
a dent in housing prices, you know. So recently we
(46:55):
saw that rental prices nationwide are actually starting to decline,
specific in deportation heavy cities like Austin. So deportations is
making a dent, but really construction is where is probably
the next area that he's going to go after.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
Senior economist at the Heritage Foundation, Peter saint One, thanks
as always for coming on and.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
Sharing your expertise.
Speaker 8 (47:19):
Thanks for having me on, Matt, and.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
Coming up, we return to our coverage if the new
and improved food Pyramid, what it means for your family
and health and how to make sure you're complying by
not consuming all of those nasty seed oils.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
Will go over it with an expert and family physician.
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Speaker 1 (49:55):
I am so stoked about this change to the food pyramid,
the ability to eat eat more proteins, more meat without
anybody's judgment. But you might be surprised at some of
the things that are harmful that we now know more
about and how you might be consuming them. So we
wanted to bring in an expert who's been studying this
and can give you great advice about how to make
your family healthier. Doctor Kate Shanahan is joining us now.
(50:18):
She's the author of Dark Calories, How Vegetable oils Destroy
Our Health. Doctor Shanahan, thanks so much for joining me.
This was amazing news when we saw Secretary Kennedy reinvigorating
the food pyramid.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
What stood out to you?
Speaker 9 (50:32):
The main thing is that the seed oils have finally
been called out as the ultra processed foods that they
truly are, which is really the most important first step
towards exposing their actual health effects. They have not been questioned.
Seed oils have been promoted as healthy for so many
(50:53):
years it has almost become nutritional heresy to even raise
the question what are their true health effects? And there's
this assumption that they have been closely scrutinized, but they haven't.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
So my wife is a holy warrior against the seed oils,
and I was surprised to learn how many things they
can be in that you wouldn't expect. How do you
see some of the families that you serve consuming seed oils,
maybe without even knowing they're doing something really harmful to
their body?
Speaker 9 (51:27):
Well, yeah, the first thing that I tell people is
what even are seed oils that are problematic?
Speaker 2 (51:33):
Right?
Speaker 9 (51:33):
Because because this area has been so neglected scientifically nutritionally,
there isn't even really an official definition to help people
understand what are the problematic seed oils versus the seed
oils that are perfectly healthy, because they are not all bad.
So I've identified the eight that are problematic. And that's
really the first step that people need to take is
(51:58):
memorizing these eight oils. So I've given it a name.
It's hopefully a little bit catchy. Help you remember that
there are eight oils and the name is the Hateful eight.
And what are they? Well, there's corn, canola, cotton seeds,
so three seeds there to memorize another mnemonic. Then it's soyt, sunflower, safflowers,
(52:21):
so three s's, and then rice brand and grape seed.
But those first six are the most important ones to memorize.
To look for on ingredients labels, because they are everywhere
in the store. Once you start looking for these things,
you are going to find them popping up in the
strangest places. So they are in salad dressings and things
that are promoted as healthy. They're in mayonnaise. It's very
(52:44):
hard used to be harder, but hard to find mayonnaise
that doesn't have one of the seed oils. You can
now get it with avocado oil. But they're even in
things like dried fruit and veggie chips they're in. So
many parents tell me that they're really disappointed to find
out that they are in those yellow goldfish because those
yellow goldfish somehow have this healthy glow and they're super
(53:06):
popular among little babies. So they are in probably eighty
percent of the products in the store that even have
an ingredients list. And here's the real kicker is the
sheer quantity that the average person is consuming without even
knowing it is at least twenty percent of their calories,
(53:28):
and maybe as high as thirty percent. And I have
to say, like maybe, and at least we're not sure.
Speaker 2 (53:34):
That's insane thirty percent of your calori.
Speaker 1 (53:37):
Wait, hold on if you told if you told the
average family that thirty percent of the calories they're consuming
come from seed oils, they would say, oh, no, that's
not us, that's other people. But this is working its
way into the diet. What are some of the healthy
things that you think we now can really embrace? You know,
the secretary was talking about lean proteins, also not having
(54:00):
the war on saturated fats. What advice would you give
people on that front?
Speaker 9 (54:06):
Yeah, so butter is back sort of, so there's a
little bit of an issue with this new set of guidelines.
And I don't blame the administration for doing this. What
they had to do was kind of straw both worlds.
They had to still acknowledge that there's because there's not
(54:28):
been very much research at all, there really isn't a
lot of evidence that these seat to oils are healthy.
And contrarily, because so much of the research done over
the past ninety since the nineteen nineties, the past forty
years or so has been done with the predetermined conclusion
that saturated fat is bad, they didn't have enough evidence
(54:49):
to say, okay, go you know, it's basically an open
season on butter and tallow and as much of that
as you want, like cheese, a whole fat dairy. So
it's a little bit schizophrenic. And I think the most
important thing to do for the average consumer is to
realize that this administration has made fantastic progress, but they
(55:14):
were working within a body of evidence that has been
impaired for the past forty or fifty years by this
restriction that was never based on evidence. So it will
be a little bit confusing when you hear people talking
about it. It'll be you'll hear some people saying, well,
there's still you know, no evidence that saturated fat is
(55:37):
you know, healthy to eat, and so we still want
you to limit your total intake at ten percent of
total daily calories, which is going to be like, okay,
so now you have one cup of milk and maybe
a half of a tablespoon of butter and that's it.
That's that's not really going to feel satisfying. But that
cap is you know, really doesn't matter to the hour consumer.
(56:01):
It does, though, matter to the captive audience of people
who have to eat what's served them in you know,
school systems, universities, hospitals, prisons, nursing homes, that's where it
really matters. But to the consumer, who is free to
do what they want, they can they can take this
(56:22):
what I'm saying at face value that there is there's
no evidence. The cap is only there because of kind
of a residual of the previous ideology that really is
a failed ideology.
Speaker 2 (56:34):
Now, yeah, and it is.
Speaker 1 (56:37):
This is just such a win for people who've been
fighting against processed foods, and it's going to be amazing
to see the societal effects of getting past this. Doctor
Kate Shanahan, a family physician and author of dark calories.
She takes the war to the vegetable oils that are
destroying our health. Thank you so much for joining me
and sharing your expertise.
Speaker 9 (56:57):
Thank you, Matt.
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