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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We have breaking news. California Senator Adam Schiff is under
federal criminal investigation for purposely leaking classified information. The damning
evidence is coming from a whistleblower on his own staff.
It's probably about the Russia hoax, and George Papadopolis himself
is here to react. Plus, President Trump hasn't forgotten about
America's cities. We'll do a deep dive into city life
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in America and how things got so bad. The governor
of Michigan is trying to rob hundreds of thousands of
people of representation in their state Senate. Will bring you
inside that unfolding scandal, and what's going on in California.
We'll check in. It's all next on the Matt Gates Show,
Let's do this shaking up Washington, d C. We're breaking
the fever.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Do you haven't watch this guy on television.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
It's like a machine.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
He's great. Matt Gates. On this program, we've closely covered
the condition of America's cities. Many have become sanctuaries not
just for illegal aliens, but for criminals and blight too.
So how did it happen? The shift of America's major
cities from Republican to Democrat didn't happen all at once.
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It was a decades long realignment driven by demographic, cultural,
and political changes. Here's what went down. At the turn
of the twentieth century. Industrial cities like New York, Chicago, Philadelphia, Boston,
and Cleveland, they often had Republican mayors and GOP dominated
city councils. Republicans were the party of business and often
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dominated urban political machines in wealthier, business oriented areas. This
began to change with President Franklin L. M. Roosevelt's New
Deal Coalition in the nineteen thirties that brought a lot
of working class immigrants, union members, and black voters into
northern cities to solidify Democrat hold. In the nineteen fifties,
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we saw a condition emerge called white flight. Suburbanization removed
many Republican leaning voters from urban cores, leaving behind more
non white, working class and union heavy populations. The Civil
Rights movement of the nineteen sixtyties cemented the loyalty of
black voters for Democrats in these major cities, while white
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conservatives left for the burbs and rural areas. The nineteen
seventies brought unrest and crime to many major cities in
our country. It turned out the civil rights movement wasn't
a panacea. White flight plus crime often correlated with Democrat
takeover of the cities. By the time we got to
the nineteen eighties, most large US cities had Democrat mayors.
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Republicans would win the occasional race in New York with
Rudy Giuliani in the nineties or in Los Angeles with
Richard Reardon. Those were exceptions, often tied to unique personalities.
Since the early two thousands, major cities had voted overwhelmingly
Democrat in local, state, and national elections. But rising Democrat
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power in cities correlated with another major force. People began
to leave in droves. Take Chicago, once reliably Irish. In
two thousand, they had about two point nine million people.
Even though America has grown in populations substantially since then,
Chicago lost about three hundred thousand people. Other cities have
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similar data. So what do you do in the two
thousands If you're an urban city official and you see
that the Democrat policies you've implemented are causing people who
relied on you to leave and go other places. That's
when you have to bring in a new class of
voters to doupe. And that is the true story of
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why sanctuary cities exist. It's not some biblical gesture of grace.
It's a numbers play. Just listen to New York Democrat
Representative Yavette Clark say the quiet part out loud.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
And from Brooklyn, New York.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
We have a diaspora that can absorb a significant number
of these migrants. And when I hear talk about, you know,
the doors of the n being closed, no room in
the end, I'm saying, you know, I need more people
in my district, but just for redistricting purposes, and those
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members could could clearly fit here.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
She needs more people in Brooklyn because Brooklyn's been controlled
by Democrats and a bunch of people left. Democrat politicians
in major cities need new voters who are also easy
to fool, So wave in the illegals, and that is
exactly what happened. Services were overrun, costs exploded in New York.
The city's twenty twenty five budget literally includes sixty six
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million dollars to hire lawyers for illegals. Would you really
live in a city that takes your money and gives
it to lawyers for illegal aliens so that they can
go after even more of your money. It is a
self harm kink turned into public policy. We're all worried
about America's cities. We don't think it's a patriotic city
or patriotic strategy. Just leave them in ruin. And now
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we know President Trump agrees, especially as it relates to Washington,
d C. He shared this anecdote that drives his thinking today.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
You know, my father always used to tell man a
wonderful father, very smart. And he used to say, son,
when you walk into a restaurant and you see a
dirty front door, don't go in, because if the front
door is dirty, the kitchens dirty.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Also, same thing with the capital.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
You are capitals dirty. Our whole country is dirty, and
they don't respect us.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
It is so true. And however we might think about
the plight and blight of America's iconic cities, we have
to prioritize the capital, Washington, d C. It is the
front door to our country. If you're watching us tonight
from Missoula, Montana, you might be thinking, why do I
care if Chicago is spending one hundred and sixty six
million dollars on migrant services. I don't live there, but
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we all have a vest stake in our capital. We
cannot allow it to fall into ruin. It was a
point Representative Tim Burchett made brilliantly on our program last evening.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
Reagan called it that bright, shining city on a hill,
and it is a dull hell hole is awful. I
do not recommend people coming up there. I definitely don't
recommend them coming up at night. Trump is right, it
should be set aside, it should be once again beautiful,
and it should be respected. There's a new sheriff in down.
His name is Donald J. Trump, and he's sitting at
Pennsylvania Avenue. That gum it's long over day.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Joining us now is a man who knows Washington d C.
Like the back of his hand. He's the president of
the Oversight Project, Mike Howell. So, Mike, are you here
for the federal takeover of Washington d C.
Speaker 6 (06:42):
Oh, it's more of a take back. It's the home
rule that allowed the locals to take it over. It's
always been the Feds who controlled DC per the Constitution.
So I'm here for the take back. I wish there
was more of a TakeBack. Although You know, it takes
time to scale these things up, but we're gonna need
a lot more than just a couple hundred NOWHS Guard.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
I spent a lot of time in Washington, d C.
I'm telling you, Mike, I don't think the homeless there
are going to stand up well to the National Guard.
They're not like the New York homeless, Like the New
York homeless will knife you over a corner. They're not
like the mefed out San Diego homeless. This is more
like a kind of political refugee homeless. They're a soft
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homeless in DC, and I actually think the National Guard
would cut through them quite quickly. How many National Guard
do you think we need to take back Washington, d C?
Speaker 6 (07:31):
So, if you look at it this way, DC Police
has a little north of three thousand officers, and so
with three thousand officers, they still have a crime rate
in hellhole in Washington, d C. And so I think
we're gonna need thousands of federal officers and agents, whether
it's National Guard or other departments, to patrol the city,
and particularly not just you know the places around Capitol Hill,
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but in southeast and the borders of Maryland and PG
County where a lot of these carjackers, you know, escape too.
And so it doesn't help if the administration just opens
the door and does a little bit. Of federal presidents,
they're going to get the same criticism no matter what.
So they should go all the way and show to
the country real large not only do people in DC
that achieving security and safety is truly possible, and it is.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Trump seems pretty serious about it. And he is a
branding guy, Mike, and he is a guy who understands
like the quality of the details. After President Trump's second
assassination attempt at his golf club, when he couldn't go
golfing and was stuck there at mar A Lago getting
ready for the debates and making decisions about the campaign,
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he would walk around the campus at mar A Lago
finding little details where a little bit of paint needed
to be improved or a chair needed the bottom to
be leveled out. I mean, he was so meticulous. So
it's got to just great on him. The Washington d
C has been handed over to the vagrants. Do you
buy his case that if we do it in Washington
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and create that as a great symbol of our and
its capital, that that creates a rising tide for other
American cities.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 6 (09:06):
I think this is the policy platform to display, you
know what, most people with common sense already understand that
it is completely possible. And the crime and vagrancy and
quality of life is the result of policy decisions, particularly
as of late, the ones emanating from the Black Lives
Matter violent riots that took over this country, where the
policy result of those and the aim of the entire
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Black Lives Matter movement was to basically decriminalize all sorts
of things that you know, certain preferred demographics, primarily African Americans,
could be arrested for. And that's what we're seeing in Washington,
d C. It's just the refusal to enforce the law
because they could end up in statistics that wouldn't benefit
the case they're trying to prosecute. That crime and quality
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of life is all a result of, you know, systemic racism. Clearly,
the ship has sailed on people buying that, and I
think Trump could prove it despositively by cleaning up Washington,
DC and a a lot of ways. And you're so right,
He's got America's two hundred and fiftieth birthday coming up.
He's going to preside over one of the greatest celebrations
in American history in Washington, DC.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Needs to be shiny and needs to be clean, and there's.
Speaker 6 (10:12):
No shortage of little details for him to fixate on
to clean up here.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
My mother always told me growing up, if you can't
look good on your birthday, then you might as well
just hang it up, And the same is probably true
for Washington d C. The the conditions there, you know,
I think would have scared more Democrat staffers into getting
on board, and not just on board with the federal takeover.
But like when Ed Martin was up for confirmation, I
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was sitting there thinking, well, hey, a bunch of these
Democrat staffers are scared when they walk home, when they
go home, when they are home in Washington, and maybe
they'll urge their bosses to consider the tough on crime
types like. It didn't work out for Ed, but we
got a great US attorney in Engeneine Piro. Actually Ed
Martin was spit on, and I think we got the
news today that the individual who spit on Ed Martin
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is now pleading guilty rather than going to trial. So
do you buy that there might be even some Democrats
who want Washington, d C. To be safe or are
they gonna have to be all in for the virtue
signal and clutching their pearls over this.
Speaker 6 (11:17):
There's no doubt that Democrats fear for their life. But
there's something they fear more, and that's offending the liberal
pieties that govern this debate. They would rather be mugged
or carjacked than to admit to something that could be
perceived as you know, racist or you know, discounting the
overall policy meta narrative that's at play.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
And so you know, you see it.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
Like the carjackers don't care what political party you are,
and they're you know, Henry Clay are Democrat, congressman carjacked.
These everyone's getting carjacked. There's you know, over hundreds hundreds
every year. The most of them are committed by people
under the age of eighteen, and so there's enough carjacking
to go around for everyone.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Unfortunately, the Secret Service gout carjack They were watching a
Biden in the Navy yard and the Secret Service got carjacked.
So this legal hobgoblin you touched on it. Jeanine Piro,
the outstanding US attorney touched on it. If someone is
under the age of eighteen, they know that they are
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going to be able to commit crimes with impunity in Washington, DC.
What do you think the answer is to that.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Well, it's rather simple.
Speaker 6 (12:26):
You punish people for carjacking regardless of their age. I mean,
if you're fourteen years old, you shouldn't just get put
into arts and crafts and re released. The gangs know this.
That's why they have the fourteen year olds do the
carjacking for them. They're trafficking on them. And if they
were females, I think this would be viewed by the
FEDS as a trafficking case. But they're not, and so
they don't. And it's not just the carjacking, which is
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obviously the one of the more extreme forms of violence.
What needs to happen in DC is broken windows policing
on steroids. You can't just wait for some of the
carjack and arrest them. You need to get, you know,
soon to be criminals in the system for lesser crimes
as they go along. I'm talking about things like truancy,
you know, just not showing up to school, whether it's
smoking in public, loitering and things of that nature. In fact,
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they're inventing new quality of life crimes. Here in Washington,
d C. Everyone's familiar with jaywalking. We have something in
DC we call jaying. It's where people just stand in
the street and obstruct traffic and you know, hood and
holler and do what they will because it's unpoliced. And
so until you create a culture of broken windows policing,
you're going to get bigger crimes. And that's what I
want to see Trump's, you know, rightful takeover of the
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police result in not just.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Carjackings, but everything.
Speaker 6 (13:38):
This should be a safe city, it should be an
orderly city, it should be a pleasant city, and it
is far from.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
That right now.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
In Florida, you j we slay like. We have a
law in Florida that if a mob of people surround
a car, you can just run them over. And I
think that is entirely just. We have all kind of
great laws like that in Florida. Also, we have kind
of the one urban sense that is the political case
for a major shift to the right in Miami Dade
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County that was reliably blue, now that is a Republican
county growing more Republican by the hour. Do you see
other urban centers around the country as potentially being on
the precipice of making that kind of flip. Obviously, in
Miami Dada it was very driven by President Trump's strength
with the Hispanic community. But with all these major cities
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becoming sanctuary cities, you're getting a lot more Hispanics in
the city. So do you see another one that could flip?
Speaker 6 (14:33):
You know, I would love to be optimistic, but no,
DC presents as a democracy.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
It's not.
Speaker 6 (14:40):
It's politics are expressed through a competition of the moneyed
interest through the developers, the entities with business before the
DC Council and then versus the traditional political machine. It's
not an expression of civic outpouring of democratic intent. And
so no, I don't see it it changing. And then
you look at New York. They just voted for Mandani.
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They kind of want this stuff, And so I think
a lot of people in those places are you know,
achieving the likely outcomes of democracy when you defund the police.
But lucky for us, DC was never intended to be
a democracy. It's a federal enclave and it should return
to that.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
White flight is leaving all the cities. But at least
we have Mike Howell in Washington, DC fighting for all
of us at the Oversight Project. Thanks so much, my
friend for coming on the program. Thanks for having me
and coming up, we have a Democrat whistleblower spilling the
beans on California Senator Adam Shift's Russia hoax involvement. George
Papadopolis was one of the targets of the Russia hoax.
We think he might have been the subject of the
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leaks from Adam Shift. It could result in criminal charges.
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Speaker 1 (18:02):
Welcome Back. There's a whistleblower alleging that California Senator Adam
Schiff told his congressional and committee staff to break the
law and leak classified information to get Trump indicted. A
little did Schiff know at the time Trump's actually indictment kryptonite.
A Democrat whistleblower who spent over a decade on the
House Intelligence Committee told the FBI that in twenty seventeen,
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then Representative Adam Schiff hatched a plan to leak classified
information to harm Trump. The staffer called it treasonous and illegal.
Documents released by FBI Director Cash Pattel showed that the
whistleblower attended an all staff meeting where Shift allegedly declared
that they would leak harmful classified intel to build a
case or indict Trump. Patel declassified and submitted those FBI
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medos to Congress. He emphasized how they reveal the classified
info was leaked to shape political narratives. This was all
swirling as Shift in the national media were obsessing over
the Russia hoax, and I'm certain that that is what
these documents pertained to. We wanted to bring on a
Russia hoax expert. He was the target of the plot
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and stood strong for the truth. Here with his reaction
is co host of The Global View, a great show
I've been on an author of Deep State target how
I got caught in the crosshairs of the plot to
bring down President Trump? George Papadopolis. So, George, with all
of these revelations regarding Adam Schiff, is there any doubt
in your mind, based on the timing, that these documents
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pertained to you in some way?
Speaker 9 (19:34):
Matt, thanks so much for having me look. I really
think that if you're Adam Schiff, the Democrat Party and
their cohorts, the mainstream media, that panic has really settled in.
This is already a senator who's under criminal investigation for
a parent mortgage fraud, and now he's probably facing much
more severe charges, including potentially the espionage ack. You had
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the DC Attorney janein Piro recently pontificate that she might
look into to potential other charges against the senator. And
when you look back at the type of action that
this person was involved in, I wouldn't be surprised if
some of these leaks were directly linked to myself. They
were reportedly linked to people like General Flynn others, and
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the whole purpose of what these classified leaks were to
do was to basically create a fake narrative in which
the mainstream media. That's why I think that they're in
trouble too. Took and propagated to the American people that
the sitting president in twenty sixteen seventeen eighteen was some
sort of Russian stooge and his people were colluding with
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the Russians. While he knew in fact that that was
all false, he lied to the American people.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
He must be held accountable. I would literally bet my
hairline for yours that these documents had to do with you,
because just based on the dates, George, everyone was trying
to make you out to be some sort of international
bond villain, you know, working on behalf of Vladimir Putin,
when the reality is you had to go to jail
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just because when you spoke with authorities you tried to
disabuse them of this crazy theory and they tried to
use it as leverage against you. Just remind my audience
how many days you spent in jail over the Russia hoax,
and then how many you think Adam Schiff should spend
if he has indeed found guilty of leaking classified information.
Speaker 9 (21:28):
Yeah, you're absolutely right, Matt. No I was forced to
spend eleven long nights in a prison I should have
never had to spend time in. And I think that
the American people every single step that's being taken by
people like ag Bondi, Patel, Ratcliffe gabbered exposing the machinations
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that really went into Obamagate. Because we now know that
it was Obama who had his fingerprints all over this operation.
They're waking up and they understand that there was a
gregious abuse of power that was conducted against not only
American civil liberties, the American will, but of course President Trump,
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his campaign in his first administration. And I think if
it is indeed proven that these allegations are real, that
Schiff was releasing classified information, and we can't forget you
and your viewers have to understand that the whistleblower is
in some sort of hard right conservative. This is a
Democrat career intelligence official who apparently actually stead in meetings
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in which Schiff portrayed this information to the mains to
the mainstream media, which they then delivered to the public.
So if he's indeed guilty of these crimes, of course
he should be sentenced like any other criminal who violated
these serious charges would.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Have been met.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
You make a really good point about the nature of
the evidence coming forward. This is testimony. It's testimony not
with like a person that heard something from somebody who
heard something like the eric Ciamorella situation. This is direct
testimony where Adam Schiff is telling his staff to break
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the law. He is saying, we're gonna get this information.
They of course mischaracterized it. They leaked it, but as
they're leaking it, they're putting the Emperor Moter of the
Intelligence Committee on it as if it is the gospel.
And then you really made an excellent point about how
willing the media was to lap up these lies and
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then regurgitate them uncritically. And you could only imagine how
frustrating it was for me and Jim Jordan and Devin
Nunez and Ron De Santis and Mark Meadows. We're sitting
there in Congress, we see the lies that are going on,
and then when we examine witnesses and get the truth,
oftentimes you're not allowed to go tell people that if
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you leak that stuff, you could go to jail. So
you add shift leaking lies to the media who wanted them,
and then we were constrained, you know, by the truth.
Looking back on the Russia hoax, and now seeing how
it played out, what would you advise just on kind
of the information warfare trade craft that we saw in
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those twenty seventeen twenty eighteen years.
Speaker 9 (24:19):
Yeah, I mean I would have never thought in my life,
you know, after you know, having a pretty you know,
relative upward swing in DC politics, that would be caught
between a rock and a attempted coup against sitting presidents.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
And that's really what this was.
Speaker 9 (24:35):
And it basically took the collective efforts of the intelligence agencies,
foreign intelligence agencies, and a willing media to do the
dirty work. And that's really what this major scandal is
mat because if you look throughout history, when you look
at communist states, totalitarian states, whenever they weaponize the legal
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system and pursued a political power to maintain power or
to basically stifle dissent the way that happened in twenty
fifteen twenty sixteen, the media is the first to expose
those type of tactics, the tradecraft that went into the
intelligence agencies and that tinpot dictator. But what happened in
this situation, we basically were living in a Banana republic
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under Obama, in which the media was willing and willfully
cooperating with this scandal. That's what really differentiates what we
have seen historically in some of the most dark, disturbing
totalitarian systems versus what the Obama regime put the American
people through. And I think moving forward, as history is
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finally corrected and written with the truth and not with
the narrative of the Obama administration or of the intell agencies,
Barack Obama will go down in history as one of
the most corrupt and evil presidents that America's ever seen.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
It was so much evil that it could only be
administered through the deliberate act of operators like Adam Schiff.
And while we're highly critical of what he did and
certainly very curious about the allegations that he broke the law,
there was a tactical proficiency to Shift's game. He was
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able to spin these lies. He did get the media
getting part of the country. I think Donald Trump was
somehow taking orders from Vladimir Putin, and that did great
damage to the country. And I think it's very important,
you know, for for us to zero in on it
and really recognized that the that the Obama order would
have been lifeless in the absence of the Brennan Clapper
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comy shift, and it's all of their predicate criminal acts
that lead up to the grand conspiracy. I believe the
DOJ strikeforce assembled right now looking into this is looking
at the cover up that was the mar A Lago raid.
They're looking at the predical predicate criminal acts which deal
directly with you, the predicate criminal act or they took
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when they ran operations against you and then tried to
use that as a permission structure to go spy on
President Trump. Is that how I mean? I know you're
not a lawyer, but is that how you see this
one grand conspiracy? Not separate acts?
Speaker 9 (27:17):
I think you just laid it out. This was very
systematic in its approach. I believe this was very premeditated.
And what I mean by premeditated is that the fix
was in the intel agencies, the FBI, the CIA, and
the left and the media did not want Donald Trump
in power. And let's just look at the facts of
what this whistle blower alleges. This person went to the
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FBI in twenty seventeen before Muller, before any of that insanity,
and was reporting to the FBI that Chiff is leaking
this information in order to create this fake conspiracy in
which later on Muller.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Attempted to cover up. And what did the FBI do?
Speaker 9 (27:55):
What did Rosenstein do? They didn't investigate Scheff, They actually
pointed Mueller to try.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
To cover it up.
Speaker 9 (28:02):
That is really what the scandal is and why it
involved so many various pillars, matt and so many actors,
And it was systematic, and you laid it out actually brilliant,
because that's really what happened here. This wasn't some sort
of isolated events in which Adam Schiff woke up one
day and said, I'm gonna start leaking classified information. Rosen
seem didn't wake up and say I'm going to point
Muller because I feel like it. It was all in
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operation from beginning until end. We're going to create a
conspiracy that we will then later on investigate and if
people catch onto what we try to do, we'll appoint
a special council to start arresting people, muscling them up,
intimidating them, like Muller did, try to catch Trump in
an obstruction charge that he fortunately did not get in
and make sure that the American people are lullless sleep
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it failed. We have patriots and power. Now they're all
in the right positions. They're getting this all declassified, and
both the left, the center, and the right now in
America are going to finally see the truth.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Now, we're finally going to get an accurate version of
history on this at long last. Before I let you go, George,
I do want to touch this big anticipated meeting coming
up between President Putin and President Trump in Alaska. We
had a key member of the House for an Affairs Committee,
Tim burchett On, and he said Alaska was being chosen
(29:15):
specifically to kind of showcase to Russia the energy cooperation
that could be done, the security cooperation. Alaska indeed is
part of the United States because of Russian American cooperation.
Do you see the SITIS playing that much significance and
what are you looking for coming out of this critical summit.
Speaker 9 (29:35):
I think President Trump since day one has always been
clear eyed on his approach to what it would be
with Vladimir Putin in theory when he was a candidate,
and he's demonstrated what it is in practice that means
engage Putin where you can confront him where you must
he puts. President Trump puts America first. America under President
Trump has once again become a net exporter of energy.
(29:56):
This purtails Putin's coffers and his export market to Europe
and other countries around the world. He's also bolstering NATO.
He's creating a peace agreement with Ukraine that is not
really in the interest as much so in Pudin as
it is in stability on the European continent. He just
secured a peace agreement between Armenia and iizer Baijan, which
(30:18):
was once the sphere of influence of Russia. President Trump
is playing chess here while Putin is just observing. And
this is something that most Americans, based on the fake
stories that we have been talking about during this interview,
did not understand. But President Trump has demonstrated once again
and he will in Alaska. America's back in charge. American
(30:39):
interests are at the forefront of any negotiations with Putin,
and if we can cooperate with Russia, all the better.
And if Putin doesn't want to, President Trump is ready
for him.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
George Pavadopolis, the show is the Global View, The book
is Deep State Target. Thank you for coming on, my friend.
Thanks so much Matt and coming up, the Trump administration
is making some changes to the rules around the H
one B visa program. We've got a writer with The
Hill here with us to break it down. There's a
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Big things are happening in the US economy that will
likely shape the nature of work for generations. US tech
workers have always had my respect, mostly because they were
the ones writing code and building out great networks and connectivity.
While I was arguing about the role of federalism in
debate class, here's what's crushing US tech workers today. Replacement
(33:47):
that replacement is coming in the form of AI and
H one B visas. Of course, the H one B
visa program allows major tech companies in the US to
bring in cheap, skilled foreign labor bypass the typical immigration system.
Many Americans feel jilted when they've invested time and effort
to get a STEM degree only to be replaced by
(34:08):
someone who was brought here twenty minutes ago and is
eager to grind for pennies on the dollar. According to
a Bloomberg Law report, a newly proposed rule cleared White
House review that would change how H one B visas
are allocated. Details of the new regulation have not been
made public, but reports suggest it will revise a plan
from the first Trump administration to select H one B
(34:29):
applicants based on wages paid rather than the current lottery system.
Rudy Takala wrote a great piece for The Hill entitled
H one b's are wrecking, wreaking hathoch on American workers.
He joins me, Now, Rudy, so explain how the current
H one B lottery system works to our audience.
Speaker 10 (34:48):
Well, Matt.
Speaker 11 (34:49):
Since its inception, the way it's worked is that it's
been a random lottery based not on skill or on
wage level, but just random. That's got's a lot of problems.
It's created a lot of opportunities for fraud of more
than seven hundred thousand applications in the fiscal year twenty
twenty three, four hundred and eight thousand, or on behalf
(35:14):
of applicants with multiple entries. So that's not the way
the program is supposed to work, and it's not great
for building a quality workforce.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
It doesn't have an America First energy to it to
base the entire thing on chance and luck. Seemingly there
would be a better way.
Speaker 11 (35:35):
What is that, well, basing it on wage level, which
is what the Trump administration is proposing, what the Heritage
Foundation is proposed, and something that would make the program
make a lot more sense. If these companies have big
tech companies want to bring in foreign workers, they should.
Speaker 10 (35:54):
Have a reason for doing so except for wanting to
save money.
Speaker 11 (35:58):
And let me just point something out that I think
a lot of people may not know, which is that
the top two majors for unemployed college graduates this year
are two of the top three are physics and computer engineering.
These aren't things that we traditionally think of as being
hard to get fields that are hard to get jobs in.
(36:19):
But this has been the result of what's taking place.
So it's really a raw deal for America's young people
and something needs to change.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
I mean, I grew up in the day when it
was sociology degree holders. Who are my baristas at Starbucks?
If they become physics degree holders? I don't know what
that says for society, but it's probably not a good thing.
How are tech companies reacting to this potential change in
administration policy?
Speaker 10 (36:46):
When I've contacted them in my reporting, They've been really
tight lipped. They have not wanted to talk about it.
Apple won't even.
Speaker 11 (36:52):
Respond, Amazon doesn't want to say anything on the record.
Microsoft was prompted to say something because of the Vice
president's recent comments singling them out, which was nice to see.
And by the way, recent professor Ron Here of Howard
University University made the observation recently that eighty two percent
(37:15):
of Microsoft's H one D approvals were for what we
call minimally qualified guest workers, people working for below the
normal wage level. So these companies haven't had a big
response so far, but that might change going forward if
we see the rule making process get more serious.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
And if the administration does accelerate its interest in this
proposed change, what scale of impact will they that have
on this marketplace? Do you think that will profoundly change
the employment dynamics for people with STEM degrees.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Yeah, it could.
Speaker 11 (37:55):
I mean we bring in around eighty five thousand of
these people each year. And it's not just H one
B holders who are impacting the labor market. Their spouses
are also receiving work authorizations. And we have up to
according to Mark Zuckerberg's group, his Advocacy Committee Forward, we
(38:16):
have more than seven hundred thousand H one B workers
in the US and potentially more than a million workers altogether,
counting their spouses and their children.
Speaker 10 (38:28):
So it goes well beyond just the H one B program.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
It's a great point that, like almost every form of migration,
is chain migration. It's just a question of how much
you can tug on the chain and how many links
of the chain you can ultimately get over the transom.
But there are some who would say we just shouldn't
have this program at all. It shouldn't be based on
a lottery, it shouldn't be based on wages that this
(38:53):
particular program should be eliminated. What's your perspective on that viewpoint?
Speaker 10 (38:58):
It makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 11 (39:00):
The American workers have been taking such a hard hit
for so long, and we see that now more than
ever with record rates of or the absence of home
ownership among young people who traditionally could have been able
to afford just the basic necessities of life. So it
really doesn't make a lot of sense to bring in
(39:21):
foreign workers who are sending their money back overseas and
the form of remittance remittances and not really helping the
US economy. And what this really amounts to is a
welfare program for big tech. Because who ultimately is responsible
for people who are having a hard time in life,
it's the American taxpayer.
Speaker 10 (39:40):
Through our social net, social safety net.
Speaker 11 (39:43):
We have to bear the consequences of that, not just now,
but in the future in the decades to come from
people who had a late start in life.
Speaker 10 (39:51):
Who's who's going to pay the bill for that?
Speaker 11 (39:54):
Will it be foreign workers from India or from China,
or will it be Americans. It's going to be Americans.
So what we're looking at here is a welfare program
for big tech, and it's time that we have a
discussion about who is going to pay for that.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
No, really good point and a really great piece in
the Hill Rudy Takala, I suggest everyone check it out
and they will learn a lot about the upper echelons
of some of these job brackets and what potentially happened
to them in the form of replacement on a variety
of fronts. Appreciate you being with us. Thank you, And
after the break, there is a new lawsuit intending to
force the governor of Michigan to call a special election
(40:31):
for a state Senate seat. You're not going to believe
this story. Gretchen Whitmer has no problem lecturing all of
us about democracy, but when she has the opportunity to
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her conduct looks like.
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But just try to stay up my way. Just try.
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I don't get you mind, pretty and your little dog too.
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The wicked witch of the Midwest strikes again tonight. We
bring you inside the twisted mind of Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer.
As we speak, two hundred and seventy thousand Michiganders have
absolutely no representation in the state Senate, and Governor Whitmer
is keeping them unrepresented to hold on to political power.
How witchy of her. When Governor Whitmer wanted to be
(43:40):
vice president, she had no problem lecturing us all about democracy.
Speaker 10 (43:44):
Voting is about so much more than standing in line
and checking.
Speaker 12 (43:48):
Boxes on a piece of paper.
Speaker 13 (43:50):
When you vote, you are telling your family, your neighbors,
and yourself what you want in the future.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
It is no wonder that people have fought, led, and
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Speaker 13 (44:03):
That democracy is never finished until every single person has
the freedom to live the.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
Life they want.
Speaker 5 (44:10):
Together, we will fight for our freedoms and protect our democracy.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
I'm sorry, who is the guy just wandering around in
the background of that speech. But with Governor Whitmer talking
about the importance of voting, you think she might actually
let two hundred and seventy thousand people in her state
vote for someone to represent them. Typically in our republic,
people do get to vote for their senators, but that
isn't happening in Michigan. And here's why the current state
Senate has a one vote Democrat margin. That's because the
(44:38):
thirty fifth Senate district was vacated when former State Senator
Kristin McDonald Rivett was elected to Congress. Normally, a special
election would be called and a replacement would be chosen,
but the governor has a really not called a special election,
even though the Lieutenant Governor, Garland Gilchrist the second, who
is a Democrat, says the governor should get on with
(44:59):
it and the election with us now, as Michigan Senate
Republican Leader Eric Nesbitt, he's also a candidate for governor
of Michigan. So, mister Leader, how long has this seat
been left open by the governor.
Speaker 12 (45:12):
It's been over two hundred days. It's actually been since
January first of this year. And all this talk by
Democrats about democracy and letting the people vote and the
will of the voters be had. Is that this is
the longest in history in Michigan that a state legislative
seat has not had a special election called for it.
Speaker 8 (45:32):
And this is a governor.
Speaker 12 (45:33):
Governor Whitmer came into the state Senate twenty some years
ago in a special election and she was seated by
Saint Patrick's day of that year. So it should have
been called and should have been seated over one hundred
days ago.
Speaker 1 (45:46):
Oh, it's totally on brand for the Whitmers to want
one set of rules for themselves and a different set
of rules for everyone else. That was their COVID plan.
So the fact that that's their electoral strategy is no
surprise to us. Is there a public pressure in this
district for the governor to call the election and allow
constituents to get constituent service and to have a voice
(46:09):
in state government.
Speaker 12 (46:11):
Well, I think, as you know, nationally, she's trying to
build up her national name Ida as she tries to
test the waters to run for president. And so this
is just another way that if she has a nineteen
nineteen Senate nineteen Republicans nineteen Democrats because right now there's
only nineteen Democrats and eighteen Republicans in the Senate that
she knows that she'd have to deal with me and
(46:33):
anything that goes to the Senate. And she's already having
a tough time dealing with Speaker Hall because he's a strong,
mega Republican leader in the House. But what we are
seeing I was down in the district about three months ago.
I've been there quite a bit because they haven't had representation.
So I figure I should be showing up in that
district at Sagana Midland Bay up in the Great Lakes
(46:53):
Bay area of Michigan and two hundred seventy thousand people
without representation. And I spent an afternoon a little while
handing out leaflets saying in a parking lot of a
Kroger's on a Tuesday afternoon, and I was impressed that
sixty percent of the people I talked to knew that
(47:14):
they didn't have representation. And so the longer she holds
us open, I think it's a better chance that we're
actually going to win the seat next year. Is because
it becomes an issue that the Democrats continue to not
back away from it and saying we're not going to
have a vote, You're not going to have representation. Your
decisions on education, budget, infrastructure, healthcare doesn't matter to us.
(47:37):
What matters to the people of Midland saganon Bay And
when the vote is called or when the election happens
normally next year, they're going to elect a Republican and
we're going to win back the state Senate next year.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
You are the Republican leader when that election is called,
it is part of your charge to go and win
it for the Red team. What issues will the Republican
candidate be running on in Saginaw.
Speaker 12 (47:58):
Well, I mean, as you look around at Saganaw follows
the state of Michigan, or the state of Michigan follows Sagana.
However you want to put it, their demographics equal what.
Speaker 3 (48:08):
The state of Michigan is like.
Speaker 12 (48:09):
And I think it's going to come down to what
President Trump promised last year. Safety, family values, it's cost
of living, something where at the end of the day,
we don't want any sings furry cities in our state.
Following President Trump's lead of deporting the legal immigrants out
of this country, they support that up there, lowering the
cost of living they don't support what the Democrats did
(48:32):
by passing what I call the Green new Scam that's
going to ban fossil fuels over the next couple of years.
It's going to increase the average family energy bill by
three thousand dollars. These are the issues that matter to
Michigan voters.
Speaker 1 (48:47):
Well, we certainly hope that those voters get an opportunity
to select their senator. Simon and Garfunkel famously saying it
took them four days to hitchhike from Saginaw, it shouldn't
take more than two hundred to call an election there.
Good luck to you and your campaign for Governor. Eric
Nasbitt is the Republican leader in the state Senate and
hopes to lead all his Michiganders in the upcoming election.
We appreciate you being on the program.
Speaker 3 (49:08):
Let's go win.
Speaker 1 (49:10):
Coming off, California, land and water concerns continue to reach
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Speaker 2 (51:37):
Ever, those people wanted to start rebuilding their homes then
and there, and the mayor said we should be able
to get them the permits within two years. They said,
that's a shit. Two years, are you kidding? I'm going
to get them the federal permit, like almost immediately two
years and she rew it back, well maybe one year.
(51:59):
The place was booing, are out of the place. They
don't have their permits to build their homes. And now
they're talking about putting This is among the most beautiful
areas was in the country. Now they're talking about putting
low income housing there.
Speaker 1 (52:13):
Can you believe this Trump is just speaking there like
someone who definitely has had a fight or two with
somebody who issues permits. He's got big, mad builder energy.
But as we observe what's happening in California, it's obviously
a mess. In Malibu, their water is dirtier than Venezuela.
In the Palazades, they're replacing people's homes with the projects.
In la we're not sure if the fire hydrants work,
(52:36):
but don't worry. The city did find time to implement
an alert system in case Ice is coming to pick
up your MS thirteen block. Captain. We wanted to see
how Californians are reacting. Joining us now California political analyst
and activist April Silvermen. So, April, what are you observing
right now regarding the government's response to all these swirling
(52:57):
crises in California?
Speaker 3 (53:00):
You mean lack of response? Matt, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 13 (53:04):
It's been eight months and there's been no permits issued,
despite the fact that they said they're fast tracking everything
and expediting That's what the mayor had told Trump that
she was going to do, and now they're giving them
a lot of these mandates that are going to cost
millions of dollars and it's just going to push off
(53:25):
the construction and years, if not decades, possibly like in
regards to the sewage system and ground upgrades and septic systems.
It's really insane. What's going on right now with the palisades.
Speaker 1 (53:39):
What do you think would give people hope?
Speaker 13 (53:43):
Honestly, I'm praying for whatever Trump is doing in DC
right now to happen in LA. I think we really
need it because every day I pray that nothing burns
down because we have fires in our neighborhoods every single
day everywhere from homeless and they call it like a
trash fire.
Speaker 1 (54:02):
When you hear that, I got to ask you, are
they like domestic homeless or are they like illegal alien homeless?
I don't know.
Speaker 13 (54:11):
I hope that Ice comes and checks it out because
I think that there are there. They just keep multiplying
and they're doing drugs on the street, and they're making bonfires,
and of course it's a recipe for disaster.
Speaker 4 (54:22):
It's home.
Speaker 13 (54:23):
It's fires all day every day, and they're using the
fire hydrants to shower, to do whatever they.
Speaker 1 (54:30):
Need to do.
Speaker 13 (54:30):
So good luck putting out that fire with no water.
Speaker 3 (54:33):
Again, there have.
Speaker 1 (54:35):
Been reports that the California government is considering taking large
areas in the Palisades and having government housing projects in
that area. Do you think that will decrease the drug use?
Speaker 13 (54:47):
Decrease the drug use? No, because I think that they're
all going to move there. And if no one puts
ever any regulations in place and rules, and you just
keep giving them free money and free housing, like, why not,
let's all sign up.
Speaker 1 (55:02):
I don't know. I don't know that I'd be signing up,
even for homeless in the Palisades. But we did see
the government's lack of building the reservoirs and maintaining the
fire hydrants and investing in the fire department a real
causal effect to the damage people felt. Do you think
they've learned any lessons?
Speaker 13 (55:21):
No, Because the ladw chief the DEI Hire is paid
seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year. She had
the highest city salary, and she couldn't even keep water
in the reservoirs and she wants five hundred thousand dollars
for her private security. This woman, and now there's no
(55:43):
clean drinking water as well in certain spots in Malibu.
So she's doing a horrible job and I would think
that they would have fired her when they fired the
fire chief, but nope, she's still there.
Speaker 1 (55:53):
Think yeah, you would think so. I've got to ask
you also about the big news of the day because
it affects your state. Adams, if under criminal investigation a
whistleblower has come out saying he was telling his staff
to break the law and release classified information during the
Russia hoax, how do you think the people of California
will react if their US senator is arrested?
Speaker 13 (56:16):
Well, honestly, I think it will be a great morale
boost that we can finally feel like justice as being done,
because they just time and time again. There's different rules
for different people, and they just get away with the
crime again and again. And I just want to start
seeing some arrests.
Speaker 1 (56:31):
Pam Bondie, April Silverman, California and out there fighting for
her community in the Palisades, fighting for the folks that
would like clean drinking water in Malibu, and everyone who
believes that fire hydrants are for putting out fires, not
so that naked, homeless people can bathe Thank you so
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