Matt Gaetz Show - Peter Navarro, Beni Rae Harmony, Rep. Barry Moore, Pearson Sharp, Augustus Doricko

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Senior advisor to President Trump, Peter Navarro, joins US tonight
to dig into where the Trump economy is headed. Alabama
Congressman Barry Moore is launching a MAGA bid for the
US Senate.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
He is here this hour. We have an exclusive.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Report from the front lines of the Russia Ukraine War
with Oams Pearson Sharp. He is in Russia now and
cloud seating is actually real. Congress discussed the matter and
we've got the highlights. It's all next to the mac
Gates Show.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Let's do this shaking up Washington, d C. We're breaking
the fever.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Do you haven't watch this guy on television. It's like
a machine.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
He's great.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Matt Gates.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Our top story tonight is the Trump economy. When Donald
Trump rescued the presidency in January that the economy was
facing major headwinds. It turns out America as a nation
far too dynamic to be successfully governed by an auto
pen for long. Over the last several months, multiple economic
indicators have shifted, pointing toward improvement, improvement that Americans are

(01:02):
feeling after a contraction in the first quarter of twenty
twenty five. The second quarter saw a really strong rebound,
with gross domestic product rising to an annualized rate of
three point three percent. Remember Obama told us we would
never get growth over two percent. We've also had the
Atlanta Fed's GDP now model estimating third quarter growth at

(01:23):
around three point three percent, up from earlier estimates. Labor
force participation among the working age has also increased under
President trumpet remains above pre pandemic levels, and those were
peaks before we entered into the Biden economy and all
the shutdowns. Put simply, the Trump economy has more people
getting value out of work. Over the first five months

(01:46):
of the Trump administration, about six hundred and seventy one
thousand payroll jobs were created. That's changing the lives of
Americans for the better. Retail sales continue to rise. In August,
retail sales rose five percent year over year, exceeding expectations.
Private sector employment has been growing. In the second quarter,
monthly average private sector job gain was actually stronger than

(02:08):
it was in the first quarter. That's the right path
to beyond. Business inventories have also increased, with a rising
ratio of sales to inventories. That is suggesting strong demand
remaining true. People are feeling more confident to spend money.
In the Trump economy, tariffs have also been working. They
used to account for about two percent of federal revenue

(02:29):
under Trump, that has tripled. Collections have passed one hundred
billion dollars for the first time ever. One of the
architects of the Trump administration's tariff policy is senior White
House advisor Peter Navarro. Now, in addition to him being
an economic whiz, Doctor Navarro proved to be deeply loyal
to the president.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
During the January sixth witch.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Hunt, the illegitimate Illegal January sixth Committee pursued, prosecuted, and
imprisoned Peter Navarro in concert with the Biden Justice Department.
He emerged from prison to a triumphant return at the
Republican National Convention.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
I went to prison so you won't have.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
To joining us now is President Trump's senior counselor for
Trade and Manufacturing and the author of I went to
prison So you won't have to A love and law
fair story in trump Land, doctor Peter Navarro.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Doctor Navarro, I want.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
To get to the book, but first, what now are
the key indicators that you're tracking in the Trump economy?

Speaker 4 (03:37):
Man, I think you hit them all. I mean, I'm
a macroeconomist. In my earlier life, i wrote books on
the economic indicators to look at that we have no
evidence of any kind of inflation, and I'm looking carefully
at the bond market reflecting that the ten years going down,
which is one of the best indicators, which means it's

(04:00):
deflationary rather than inflationary. You look at consumer confidence, retail sales.
The one that worries me the most is the ISM
manufacturing index. That one is stayed stubbornly below fifty, which
signals continue contraction there.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
But the important thing to understand is.

Speaker 4 (04:20):
That our whole policy economically with tariffs is designed to
bring investment and factories back.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
To the United States.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
So there's going to be a lag between the tradions
of dollars investment that are investing here to build factories
and the time people are actually manufacturing. So we'll see
a surge in construction employment because of this influx of
trade related investment, and then we will get a rise

(04:54):
in manufacturing. The bottom line is the Fed today should
have cut rates by fifty basis points, and in my judgment,
one hundred that's how far we're behind but that FED
has been politicized like so many other institutions in this
country that are anti Trump, And there you have it.

(05:15):
But the look, Matt, Matt, the tariffs have succeeded beyond
any wildest expectations, including it up to the point where
now we're projected that we're going to get seven trillion
dollars over the course of a ten year period.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
That's going to turn what looked to.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
Be a fiscal cliff we were going to crash over
into a situation where we actually get debt reduction, and
of course with debt reduction comes inflation reduction, bond yield reduction,
mortgage rate reduction, consumer credit interest deduction, and so I
think we're in a in a very good place. But
having said all that, Matt, Matt, Matt, I got to

(05:56):
thank you and Ginger from my heart heart and Bonnie's heart,
my fiance for all the support you gave me when
I was in prison, and I had a card which
I kept that you and Ginger sent me, and in
defiance of the guards, because you weren't supposed to put

(06:17):
anything on the front of your.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
Locker, I put that up on my locker.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
And then they didn't dare to take it down, but
I still regret the fact that they didn't allow you
to come visit me in prison. You'll be happy to
know that we got Bernadette Peters, a woman who called
me what I forget what it was, a disruptor or
something like the notorious.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
That was it.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
She wouldn't let you in because I was too notorious.
She got fired within days of Donald Trump taking office. So, brother, I,
from the bottom of my heart, it's all about you.
You are thanked in the dedication to this book. I
went to prison so you won't have to, and you
were my anchor there.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
You and gen I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
We think so highly of you and Bonnie, and what
happened was so deeply unfair. I do want to get
into the book because you wrote Trump Time that brought
the reader inside how President Trump makes decisions, how he
engages in teamwork and leading the country. But this is
a very different kind of book. It seems to be
far more personal. What will readers learn when they pick

(07:22):
it up.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
Well, it's three books in one in some sense, so
it's a bargain there when you buy it first. It's
obviously the story of how I as a senior White
House advisor got put into prison. Every person involved in
my imprisonment was a Democrat. They overturned fifty years of

(07:45):
Department of Justice policy across party lines to just run
rough shot over the constitutional separation of powers. I was
simply defending the constitutional separation of powers from an out
of control J six committee and is as my oath
of office required, they put me in prison.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
So it's about that. Secondly, I mean, look, you want.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
To know what it's like to go to prison for
a misdemeanor at seventy four years old, for something you
actually didn't do, and wind up with two hundred felons.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
Read the book.

Speaker 4 (08:23):
It's it's well, I want to know did they know
everything in between?

Speaker 2 (08:28):
You know, did the.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
People who were there in your bunk room know that
you were a political prisoner there because of this high
profile matter? Did you have friends, there were people nice
to you.

Speaker 4 (08:39):
Well, see, that's that's part of the humor, the dark
kind of Kafka meets Joseph Heller humor.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
The whole thing.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
Everybody in that prison knew I was coming to that
prison before I did, because a couple of weeks before
I was ordered to report there. They were put on
Potempkin village detail with like mops and brooms and paint brushes,
screwing in light bulbs. They went up on the roof

(09:06):
and redid the roof so the helicopters coming by would
look like it wasn't like falling apart and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
They redid the whole menu.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
And stuff like that, so rather than being like a
starvation diet, it was like a half starvation diet. So
when I got there number one, they knew I was coming.
Number two, there's this thing where they every inmate that
comes into a prison mat is like the other inmates
look them up on this thing called pacer.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
You know what that is.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
It's illegal database, and what they want to find out
is why they went to prison, whether they were a
snitch and got a lighter sentence. So one of the
most comic things that happened in the first couple of
days I'm there is like these guys come around, they
surround me. It's like what's going on here? And they go,
you're a good guy, and I go, you know why okay,

(09:55):
as they say, because you didn't snitch, And I'm thinking there,
I'm just laughing to myself the moral equivalence between not,
you know, refusing a congressional subpoena because of executive privilege
and not like ratting out your your your fellow gang
member on a crime. It was, you know, darkly amusing
kind of stuff. But I saved a couple of lives

(10:15):
in prison. There's really good stories about that. And and
interestingly enough, Matt, I went in there as an inmate
and spent all my time there as an investigative reporter,
uncovered a five billion dollar taxpayer scandal, which you and
I corresponded quite a bit about respect of the first
step back, and Matt, you'll be happy to know on

(10:37):
the outside, I've been able to get a good guy
at the Department of Prisons as the director, and I've
actually solved that problem. They've changed the policy in precisely
the ways I recommended from.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
Prison, and that's not bad.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
A five billion dollars scandal I was able to solve,
So you know, it wasn't worth going there for that
at one level, but at least, say the taxpayers five
billion dollars.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
Yeah, I mean, maybe we should just drop you off
at every federal department for a few months and see
what you write about and what we learn about that
was one of the interesting consequences of your time in prison.
You came out an expert on that system, and now
it's really heartwarming to see that you're dedicating some of
your time to improving it for others. But when we
look back, when history looks back on this moment, the

(11:24):
January sixth Committee illegitimately construed the Department of Justice tormenting
you over this non misdemeanor, Like, what do you want
to see happen to the people who were involved in
these violations of procedure and in some cases law.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
Well, there's two things I want to happen. First of all,
I know this, but my case is ongoing. It's on
appeal in that building behind me. That's the Supreme Court
us versus Peter Navarro should eventually wind up there to
settle the central question is can the House of Representatives,
the legislative brand subpoena a senior White House advisor in

(12:02):
the executive branch And from the days of George Washington
and the Jay Treaty, in the beginnings of executive privilege,
in fifty years of formal DOJ policy, Department of Justice
policy the.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
Answer was always nun.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
But now that the Biden regime flipped that, everybody going
forward is going to be at risk serving in the
White House are going to prison if they if they
honor their oath of office. So I want good laws
settled on the.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
Question.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
I want all of these bastards in jail, okay, and
not just the ones who put me in prison, but
the ones who tried to put Donald Trump in prison.
And here's the thing what's interesting, Matt again, Chuck Grassley,
Senator is doing a great job working with whistleblowers in
the FBI, and he's out of this guy named Walter Giadina,

(12:54):
the FBI agent who Cash Pettel has now fired. Why
do I mention him? He was the son of who
put me in handcuffs and leg irons. Purp walked my
lovely fiance And I'm pointing to her because she's right
behind the camera here and says hi, Purp walked her out.
There were five armed FBI agents who come grab me.

(13:16):
And it turns out he not only helped orchestrate my
circus arrest, which was totally unnecessary, turns out he's a
key figure as Grassley's whistleblower show in virtually every attempt
to unsee Donald Trump or to interfere in the election
starting in twenty sixteen. Matt, you know these details so well.

(13:39):
The Steele dossier, what was that? That was the phony
dossier compiled by Hillary Clinton to basically create the Russia Hope.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Oh you're giving me, yeah, you know, you're giving me
all the Russia Hope hoax vibes.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
But I do have to live. I'll give you a
few more seconds, Peter for that.

Speaker 4 (13:57):
Giordina was the guy who green Lita's legitimate set the
whole ball round.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Incredible, Yeah, Peter Navarro, amazing book. He went to prison,
so the rest of us didn't have to. We can
at least get the book. You're gonna learn a lot
if you read it. Thank you, my friend.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Always appreciate you it coming on night.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
Good to see you, Matt anytime, man.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yes, yeah, give body our love as well.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
And coming up, there is an ABC News reporter who
is saying that she was canceled and lost her job
as the result of a tribute to Charlie Kirk.

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Tonight, we bring you a breaking story out of Springfield, Illinois,
where a journalist disclaiming she was forced out of a
job due to an on air tribute she gave Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
Here is that tribute?

Speaker 7 (16:57):
Much for tuning into Marketplace today? So I to talk
about something for a minute, and it is heavy, So
please bear with me. I want you to know that
it's okay if you feel sadness. It's okay if you
feel if you're grieving. Two days ago, I lost a mentor,
my first boss, the first person who made me believe
in myself, that encouraged me to chase this dream that

(17:19):
you're watching right now, Charlie Kirk. There's a lot going
on in our world right now, in our country. But
I want to say one thing. Lean on your neighbors,
speak up for what you believe in. I don't care
what it is I want to share with you. One
of my favorite saying is that Charlie would always tell
us at the office, he would yell it from the mountaintop.

(17:42):
So please listen. When conversations stop happening, when individuals become wordless,
that's when violence begins. So if you do one thing today,
make it be with passion, with conviction. Stand up for
your friends. Stand up for your beliefs, and speak loudly,
even if your voice shakes. Your words have meaning, your

(18:06):
values have purpose.

Speaker 8 (18:08):
Never forget that.

Speaker 7 (18:10):
Thank you c k changed my life.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
That was touching, an earnest and appropriate. So why isn't
the journalist Benny Ray Harmony still on air. WICSABC twenty
in Springfield has confirmed the resignation of miss Harmony. They
say nobody has been fired or suspended in the last
ninety days. Miss Harmony is contending that she resigned after
being told you to remove a social media post of

(18:35):
this tribute to Charlie Kirk. She said she was pressured
and threatened. When asked specifically whether they threatened suspension or
other disciplinary action over the tribute. The station refused to comment.
Benny ray Harmony once interned in my congressional office. She's
worked for Jack PASOBC and Media and at Turning Point USA,
She joins us. Now, Benny, it's good to see you.
Your tribute was beautiful and appropriate and appreciated.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
What happened when you posted it on social media.

Speaker 7 (19:02):
Well, Matt, it was not the response that I thought
I would get. For sure, as you can see, I'm
sure you've watched the video. It was not political whatsoever.
It was honoring a mentor that we both knew, you
and I and you actually were the person that encouraged
me to go work for Turning Point in twenty twenty
one again after I left your office. And it's just

(19:23):
tragic that something as horrible that happened we all watched
a tribute can't even be done without being punished for it.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
It was a human reaction.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
Were you told that it violated any type of policy
of the network?

Speaker 7 (19:40):
No, Matt, they did not tell me why. All they
told me was if I did not take it down,
I would be punished, and I wasn't going to stick
around and wait for that.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
Did they indicate what that punishment would be.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
No.

Speaker 7 (19:53):
Wow, we are currently the WICS station that I was
at just got bought by a new company, Broadcasting Group,
and it's safe to say it's pretty disorganized and nobody
really knows what's going on in their own house. And
I think that that's where a lot of the issues
in the leadership stem from.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
How did others in your newsroom and in your news
organization react to your resignation.

Speaker 7 (20:17):
Well, Matt, I was not expecting to be the first
one to do it, but from hearing from my friends
and the other people around me, they share a lot
of the same opinions, but I was just the one
to speak up. There's a lot more opinions and conservative voices,
especially right here in Lincoln's Home and SPRINKLELT, Illinois.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Yeah, and again to your point that you've made rather convincingly,
this wasn't even about politics. You would have said this
about anyone that you'd worked with, even in a job
that didn't have anything to do with politics. And I
guess I'm trying to understand what about modern newsrooms are
so like reticent to just allow people to have a
human reaction.

Speaker 7 (21:00):
You think, Yeah, I don't know, Matt, I think I
think this is not a battle of Democrat or Republican.
I really think it's good versus evil and it goes back.
This is not the first time I have seen my
newsroom react the way they have and not air something
or or you know, most recent there was another situation

(21:21):
they would not air a Republican candidate that was running
for office.

Speaker 8 (21:24):
And it's just sad.

Speaker 7 (21:26):
It's really sad to see this. And it's also sad
to see managers going around the newsroom and feeding their
leftist propaganda to us, calling Trump Nazis, pedophile, calling him Hitler,
and all these awful things. And Matt, this is what
our young reporters and our young anchors are witnessing every
single day. They are fed this in their ears in
newsrooms across the country.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
And you know, you are proof that Turning Point was
this great incubator, this ecosystem where if you were excited
about storytelling, if you're excited about sharing the truth with people,
you would gain more skills, you would have opportunities. What
would be your message to someone who was going to
volunteer at Turning Point or maybe even work for Turning
Point about how that might help them in their future endeavors.

Speaker 7 (22:10):
Well, it's not just about us at this point anymore.
I would encourage anyone to get involved. Go to TPUSA
dot com, do anything, speak your voice. All I said
in that tribute and what I want people to take
away from this is speak up even if your voice shakes,
no matter what. I don't care what the backlash is.
If you have values and you have morals, stand up

(22:33):
for them. Good will always beat evil. And if you
want to get involved, like I said, go to TPUSA
dot com. Check out news sources like OA in like
Real America's Voice, and things that truly feed us and
the values that we care so much about. And just fight,
like Trump said when he dodged that bullet that day,
fight fight, fight, and don't give up. And in the

(22:55):
wise words of Erica Kirk, I want to end this
by saying, Charlie's mission, it won't die because we won't
let it.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
Such a touching tribute.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Though you're not going to be at ABC twenty anymore,
I think we're going to be hearing a lot more
from Benny ray Harmony.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
Thank you for your journalism and for standing up for
your friend.

Speaker 7 (23:12):
Thank you Matt.

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Speaker 1 (26:36):
Welcome back, We head down south to Alabama, where coach
Tommy Tubberville is now running for governor. He joined us
recently to talk about his campaign.

Speaker 9 (26:44):
Yeah, I think I can do more good after next
year and a half staying with President Trump and then
the next two years of him being in office, being
in Alabama and using that power that he's going to
send back and help help the Yelloheammer state become better
and better.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
Coach Tubberville trading Washington for the cotton fields and easy
smiles of the Deep South. So who is positioning to
succeed him in the United States Senate? Congressman Barrymore is
a conservative MAGA stalwart. He has launched a campaign for
the United States Senate and he joins us now. So
I want to get to the Senate campaign in just
a moment. Congressman. First, we've got this government funding bill.

(27:19):
Tell us what's going to happen.

Speaker 10 (27:21):
So, man, it looks like another short term CR based
on what I'm hearing right now.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
You know, that's.

Speaker 10 (27:26):
Business as usual in Washington, DC, you know. So right now,
the latest I've heard is it's going to be short term.
Maybe kick the can till November and try to figure
out from there what we're going to do. Many of
us wanted to clean CR because we couldn't seem to
get our appropriations bills across the floor.

Speaker 8 (27:41):
But right now, man, it.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
Looks like a CR.

Speaker 10 (27:43):
Maybe till I guess seven week CR and then we'll
do it again somewhere down the read and figure it
out it from there.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
I suppose the normal Washington rhythm where no one is
essentially responsible responsible for the high spending. I do want
to get to this race in Alabama. What do you
think The key question is that Alabama Republicans will ad
sir when they cast their ballot in the upcoming US
Center primary.

Speaker 10 (28:04):
Well, hopefully who can fill Coach's shoes and who'll be
a Trump ally.

Speaker 8 (28:07):
I think that's the two things.

Speaker 10 (28:08):
And Coach and I are the two most conservative guys
from the entire delegation. He has a ninety one point
seven liberty score and I have a ninety two point four,
and I remind him very often I'm a little more
conservative than he is when it comes to protecting liberty.
So I think right there, the people in Alabama just
that for the most part, we're a red state. Well
we don't always get true red representation. So being in
House Freedom Caucus, Coach has done a good job. We

(28:30):
came here at the same time and been in the
fight together, and so when he decided to go run
for governor, it felt like we needed to step up
and do our part to continue to fight.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
You and I served together on the House Judiciary Committee.
There was not a lot of room to the right
of Barry Moore. When you look at your time in
the House of Representatives, is there a particular vote you
took or position you held that you think most defines
how you're approaching your candidacy for the Senate.

Speaker 10 (28:54):
Well, I think consistency just always doing what you tell
vote the way you tell your people you're going to
And so when I ran i ran, I told him
I would join the House Freedom Caucus, you know, And
a lot of times in those debates, Matt people wouldn't
agree to that. I had a seven way primary in
twenty twenty and and a lot of people are like, well,
you know, they don't want to answer the question.

Speaker 6 (29:12):
But I knew when I.

Speaker 10 (29:13):
Came here and sit antal House Freedom Caucus, that's truly
the place I felt when I left, I didn't need
a shower, right, I mean, those are our kind of people,
and they matched the Alabama's heart and the conservative values.
But very often in DC, Man, we don't have people
that vote that way.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
In the Senate.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
Oftentimes the filibuster becomes this great question of procedure and process.
It's not in the constitution. Do you think the Senate
philibuster should be maintained.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
You know, I think so.

Speaker 10 (29:40):
I think we have to look at it and as
we get there and see how we approach it. But
right now I think it's something we probably need to maintain.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
Is John Thune doing a good job as Senate leader
so far?

Speaker 10 (29:50):
I mean, I would have liked to see these nominations,
you know, move a little quicker, and they have changed
the rules, and so it's unfortunate President Trump we're in
eight months nine months now going into his term, and
the Democrats have just been resisting any kind of nomination appointees,
and so for Thun to move that, I'm glad to
see that we're at least getting some process on these nominations,
getting some approved, and hopefully we'll continue to see that

(30:12):
direction towards supporting President Trump getting his nominees in place
so we can get the work done that needs to
be done in the Senate as well.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
It really is crazy that we're like almost a year
uno the Trump presidency and there are still ambassadorships that
are unfilled where qualified people have been nominated, they haven't
gotten a vote, they haven't gotten a hearing, and because
Leader Thoon won't allow recess appointments, those billets are unfilled,
and it does seem disappointing. I want to talk about
the race itself. You very likely will represent the MAGA

(30:41):
force in the race. But we do know within the
Republican Party there still are establishment forces. There are people
who believe the Republican Party should look more like Paul
Ryan or Nikki Hayley, who in the Senate contest you
believe will be carrying that mantle.

Speaker 10 (30:56):
So right now I'm up against an attorney general, the
current Attorney General Valley. He was a Democrat till twenty
and eleven. He changed parties and he got then the
I guess the appointment as an attorney or local DA
and he's been pretty well appointed and then one as
an appointee, So he hasn't really ever had a battle.
But for me to be in the battle, I actually

(31:18):
came into the fight when Barack Obama was President of
the United States in twenty and ten. I started in
the state legislature and became the most dependable conservative vote,
and so I was in the fight for the Republican
Party when my opponent was still in the fight with Obama.
And so I think that's probably gonna be the establishment guy,
and we're gonna just like said, We're gonna run on
our record, see how it shakes out.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
But I think once we get the message out, Matt.

Speaker 10 (31:40):
Who we are or how we v allied with the president.
I was the first in the nation in Dorsey in
August twenty first, twenty fifteen the lab People Stadium. And
so I've been on the.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
Trump training my friend, long before it left the station.

Speaker 10 (31:51):
And we're going to continue to help the President do
what he needs to do to truly make America great again.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
And where can folks go to find out more about
your campaign and support you if they're interested, Yes.

Speaker 8 (32:00):
Sir Barrymore for Alabama dot Com.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
Awesome, Well, Barrymore has been a great congressman. I enjoyed
serving with you. You are a true, sincere, genuine conservative and
we wish you well.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Please stay safe on the trail. It's pretty wild out.

Speaker 8 (32:13):
There, pretty wild.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Thank you, my friend, Thank you.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
And coming up, we will go to the front lines
of the war between Russia and Ukraine. Oan investigative reporter
Pearson Sharp is in Russia. He has actually been embedded
doing wartime journalism, and we will get a fabulous report
from him in just moments.

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Speaker 1 (34:42):
Today, we continue our coverage of the war between Russia
and Ukraine. Russia has launched thousands of drones and missiles
so far this month, targeting Ukraine's energy infrastructure, military supply points,
and civilian as coordinated strike of over five hundred drones

(35:02):
and missiles hit in early September. It did hit those
military infrastructure sites, energy facilities, and there were a lot
of power disruptions and damage as a consequence. Ukraine has
continued an intensified attack campaign against Russia as well, looking
at their oil, gasoline pipelines, rail networks. Some terminals and
refineries were also damaged. O and investigative reporter Pearson's Sharp,

(35:25):
host of the Sharp Report here on One American News,
has traveled to the front lines. He's spent time with
the troops fighting this war, and he joins us now
from Russia. Pearson, First of all, it's good to see
you safe and sound. It looked from some of the
snippets of your reporting I was able to see that
you were pretty close to the front lines and the fighting.

(35:46):
Tell us where you are and what you have learned
about this war from your reporting and your journalism.

Speaker 11 (35:53):
First, I'd like to read this pre prepared speech from
my KGB handler.

Speaker 8 (35:57):
I'm kidding.

Speaker 11 (35:58):
We're here in Nishni Novgro and it's about a four
hour train ride east of Moscow, and this is.

Speaker 8 (36:06):
Where some of the drone attacks have been happening.

Speaker 11 (36:08):
And actually they have they'ven sawd some jammers in the
area to block signal because you know, they're trying to
keep the drones from attacking the military targets.

Speaker 8 (36:15):
But in any case, this.

Speaker 11 (36:16):
Past week we were down in Donbas, which is a
large region.

Speaker 8 (36:23):
Down near Ukraine, and we were in.

Speaker 11 (36:26):
Donietes, We went to Mariopold, we went to the asovs
as of Stall steel plant. We went to a couple
of other small towns that have just been absolutely decimated
by the fighting, and being down here has been incredibly
eye opening as far as the kinds of people that

(36:47):
you meet, the kinds of things you see that just
destroy the Western narrative about what's happening here and what
life is actually like in Russia.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
Really are people dealing with all of the death?

Speaker 8 (37:04):
I mean, that's a.

Speaker 11 (37:06):
That's a very difficult question to answer. How does anyone
deal with the death? The people here are living their
lives as best they can. Don Bass has been the
center of a lot of the fighting, and we went
to Donetsk, which was the.

Speaker 8 (37:22):
Frontline of the war for quite a while.

Speaker 11 (37:25):
It's now moved quite a bit west from there, but
the people have tried to integrate the war into their
lives the best that they can. We went to a
park in don Yetsk and it was a memorial park.
They had a little shrine there for the children that

(37:48):
have been killed by the Ukrainian shelling. And so far,
the running count just in Donetsk, not in all of
don Bass, but just in Donetsk is two hundred and
fifty seven children that have been killed from Ukrainian shelling
and it was called the Alley of Angels, and I'm
it was very powerful.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Oh that sounds horrendous, and it certainly animates President Trump's
efforts to try to end this war and end the killing.
You know, little children should not be dying because of
this type of geopolitics. It's a tragedy. You know, Pearson
that we've seen photos of you interacting with the people

(38:29):
who are fighting this war. What can you tell us
about those people?

Speaker 11 (38:34):
So we actually got to visit some of the troops
who are fighting for the Russians against the Ukrainians. And
the incredible part was that these aren't Russian soldiers. These
are Ukrainians and they've decided to join with Russia and
fight against the Ukrainian regime as.

Speaker 8 (38:52):
They call it.

Speaker 11 (38:53):
And when I asked them how they felt about fighting
against fellow Ukrainians and you know, are they fighting for
Russia now?

Speaker 8 (39:02):
Do they do? They want to see Russia win?

Speaker 11 (39:04):
They say, we're not fighting for Russia, We're fighting to
free Ukraine.

Speaker 8 (39:09):
And I think that.

Speaker 11 (39:10):
Says a lot about the mindset of the people here.
They don't think that Ukraine is free right now. The
Ukrainians living there don't think that it's free. And these people,
the soldiers that I spoke with, none of them joined
the army willingly. They were grabbed off of the streets,
thrown into vans and forced to fight. One of them

(39:30):
was a university student and he was trying to get
his doctorate because apparently there's some kind of loophole that
once you get your doctorate, you don't have to fight.
And so he was literally at his desk at school
and the hinchman came in and dragged him out, kicking
and screaming, and threw him into a van.

Speaker 8 (39:47):
Suddenly, you're in the army now.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
So when he was in the Ukrainian army but then
switched sides and joined the Russian side of the fight.

Speaker 8 (39:55):
And join the Russians. Yes, wow, so fight against wow.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
Conscription may may not be all it's cracked up to be.

Speaker 11 (40:02):
If that type of the soldiers they said, they don't
want to fight for Zelensky. They don't They called it
the regime. They don't want to fight for him. And
I asked them, you know how this is? This is
your opinion, of course, you know the group tier, but
what about the rest of the Ukrainians. How do they
feel about this, and they said, no one wants to
fight for Zelenski.

Speaker 8 (40:21):
No one sees him as legitimate.

Speaker 11 (40:22):
They all think that he's an illegitimate ruler who's been
propped up in place and is basically a dictator at
this point. And no Ukrainians want this war to continue.
They all want it to end.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
Well, I am interested in whether or not that is
a similarly held view in Russia.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
There are so many Russians who have died as a
consequence of this war.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
You talked about the children, but even the Russians who
have been, you know, pushed into the military, either by
economic drive or some other feature, so many have died
and that has to impact the towns and communities and
families within Russia.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
What have you learned about that dynamic?

Speaker 11 (41:01):
Well, they're all the Russians that I've spoken with feel
a patriotic calling to join this fight and to help
bring the two countries together. The thing you have to
understand is in the week that we spent down there
in these areas that have been just decimated and the
people who've lost their families, their homes, their lives, a

(41:25):
place where you would expect to find a lot of
hatred and animosity. There was none of that. Everyone I
spoke to there was no hate whatsoever. There was simply
a longing for peace. We went to a town very
close to the front lines. I believe it was maybe
ten kilometers fifteen kilometers from the front lines, and it

(41:46):
has been shelled since twenty twenty two. This in the
last three years, it has been hit one t thousand times.
And that's when they started counting, was in twenty twenty two.
That's when the Russians got to the area and they
actually had like a system of governs where they could
keep track of these things. Before then, there was no counting,
so there's there's no way to know how bad it is,
you know. We walked down a street where every building

(42:09):
on the street was riddled with bullets and explosions, apartment
buildings collapsed, falling apart, And we came to one area
where the apartment building half of it was completely collapsed,
is bombed out, and they were trying to fix it.
The other half was partially ruined. But there was still
a man living in that apartment building, and he came

(42:32):
down the talk and he said that, you know, he's
gotten used to life like this, and he was an
old man, but he said he remember when it was,
you know, there was peace. And I said, if you
had a message for Americans, if you wanted Americans to
know what you feel, and you wanted to send a
message to our leaders, what would you tell them?

Speaker 8 (42:51):
And he said, please stop bombing us.

Speaker 11 (42:55):
He said, all we want is peace. That's all that
we want. There was no hatred animals.

Speaker 8 (43:00):
He didn't say, oh you.

Speaker 11 (43:01):
American, you know how could you please stop bombing us?

Speaker 8 (43:06):
That's all that he wanted. And that's all any of
the people that I talked you wanted.

Speaker 11 (43:10):
It's that's amazing to see what these people have been through.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
It's and it is.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
It is a part of this story that is that
has been untold. And that's why I'm so excited when
you get back and really assemble this in a full,
sharp report, it's going to be an incredible piece of journalism. Pearson,
After you've been there on the ground, interacting with people
from Russia, from Ukraine, seeing this from from different experiences,
do you have any better sense of how this is

(43:36):
all going to end?

Speaker 8 (43:40):
That's a great question.

Speaker 11 (43:42):
I really have a lot of hope in what President
Trump is doing. I think that he has the best
of intentions, and I hope that we can find a
diplomatic way to end this. We asked one of the soldiers,
one of the Ukrainian soldiers who was fighting for Russia,
if you know he was hopeful for a day when
they could march into Ukraine, into Kiev and take the streets,

(44:05):
and he said, I'm hopeful that we'll have peace before them.

Speaker 8 (44:09):
I'm hopeful we never get there, we never have to
get there.

Speaker 11 (44:12):
And I think that's the mentality here is they're fighting
for freedom. They're not fighting because they hate Ukrainians. They
think that what's happening is wrong, and they're trying to
free their homes. And I have to point out that
every single person in Donbas that I talked to, every
single one, and this is the part that Ukraine's does

(44:34):
belongs to them. Every single one said, we are Russian,
we are part of Russia. This is our home, this
is our culture. And they said they felt liberated when
President Putin came in and Russia took back that territory.
They felt liberated from Vilenski, from the Ukrainian regime. They
did not want any part of it. So I think
that's something that the world needs to know and needs

(44:56):
to hear from these people. This is not me saying this,
this is me telling, but the people living there are
saying and what they want, and that has to be considered.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
Yeah, we cannot wait to hear those stories directly as
the consequence of your fearless journalism and in days and
weeks when we're all trying to find a little more
courage to go out there and tell the truth about
things in the country and in the world. It is
an incredible moment of pride for One American News to
have you collecting this important information telling these stories. Pearson Sharp,

(45:30):
the host of The Sharp Report on One American News,
Thank you so much for joining us.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
Stay safe, my friend, and we'll be checking in soon.

Speaker 8 (45:36):
Thanks Matt.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
And coming up, we will explore the matter of cloud seating.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
It's actually real.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
Congress held a hearing on it and we've got the
highlights for you next.

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Speaker 1 (48:03):
Have caught it, but a little known Doge subcommittee held
hearing on a topic that has been shrouded in conspiracy
for decades, weather modification. A recurring topic was a weather
modification technique called cloud seating, where rainfall is artificially induced
or created by releasing small amounts of chemicals into the air.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
Take a listen, but.

Speaker 12 (48:25):
With respect specifically to weather modification, whether it's cloud seating
or other technologies, I actually agree with many of the
assertions about the need for further discussion for their science
and potentially further regulation of these particular technologies.

Speaker 13 (48:43):
Cloud seating, while it may occur, it's probably not occurring
as often as people think because it's its effects are
unknown or not certain. And then in addition, it only
has affects a small region.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
Would you both agree with that?

Speaker 1 (49:02):
Yes, Despite the long track record of experience with operational
weather modification activities.

Speaker 13 (49:07):
The effectiveness of weather modifying activities for actually modifying the
weather is unknown.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
By all appearances, Washington reached a rare bipartisan consensus. Scientists
don't have a great deal of understanding of cloud seating's
effectiveness or its impact on soil and air quality. So
it's another vain attempt, maybe by men to play god.
Or maybe it's actually expanding much needed access to fresh water.
I don't really know, but history does give us a

(49:33):
bit of a mixed answer. We've used cloud seating to
try to stop hurricanes, increase snowfall at ski resorts, and
even flood Vietcong tunnels, almost all of which produced very
unclear results. But proponents say this could remedy droughts, it
could prevent crop failures in America's dry Western states. Here's
rainmaker CEO Augustus de Rico explaining his motivation for trying

(49:56):
to change the weather.

Speaker 14 (49:57):
Our forests and cities are on fire because we we
don't have enough water. Our crops and harvests are failing
because we don't have enough water. Ecosystems throughout the US
are collapsing because they don't have enough water. I'm going
to the Great Salt Lake tomorrow. Google what the Great
Salt Lake looks like. It could dry up entirely over
the course of the next decade. What we wants, what
we think everybody in the country wants, is a future
where we have enough water for our forests to be green,

(50:19):
for our farms to be lush, and for kids to
grow up swimming in the lakes that their parents did.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
Augustus de Urrico joins us now to tell us more
about cloud seating. So let's start with this question, where
do the chemicals come from that you're using to seed clouds?

Speaker 14 (50:34):
Yeah, happily we use silveridid, which is the same material
that Americans have been cloud seating with for the last
eighty years when we invented the technology, and it's manufactured
in Utah and Spain.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
And what does a world of like fully optimized cloud
seating look like.

Speaker 14 (50:50):
Yeah, we're a long ways away from fully optimized cloud
seating in terms of the maximum amount of water that
we can produce. What we know right now is that
we have a historic low amounts of water in the
Colorado River, in the Great Salt Lake, and farms throughout
the country, and Resultantly, municipal governments and states are banning
people from watering their lawns.

Speaker 15 (51:10):
Farms are running dry.

Speaker 14 (51:11):
Our first priority at rain Maker is to get America
back to where it used to be in terms of
water supply, allow our farmers to continue farming where they've
been able to for the last one hundred years.

Speaker 15 (51:21):
In the distant future, what my hope is is that
we have.

Speaker 14 (51:23):
A more green, abundant and lush country than we've ever
had before.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
And if you are seating clouds, like from a specific point,
what is the breadth of geography that could potentially be impacted.

Speaker 14 (51:35):
Yeah, so cloud seating affects individual watersheds, right, so you
can think about county wide areas. It's not global climate modification.
It's not dimming out the sun to cool the planet down.
Cloud seating again, it was invented in the United States
eighty years ago, and the function of it is to
enhance precipitation for an individual watershed like that of the
Great Salt Lake, like a county in California, for example,

(51:58):
like a county in Utah or Colorado or Idaho. And
so the effects is hundreds of square kilometers at a time,
hundreds of square miles at a time, and it occurs
over the course of hours. If at any point you
don't like the effects of cloud seating, you don't want
more water, then you can turn it off and there's
no long term consequence.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
Who are your clients typically who are paying for cloud
seating today?

Speaker 14 (52:24):
Yeah, there's a spread of different customers between the municipal
public works departments, the departments of Natural Resources at state levels,
the departments of agriculture at state levels, and then individual farms,
ski resorts, and hydroelectric utilities.

Speaker 15 (52:39):
Ultimately, people that want water, want more water for.

Speaker 14 (52:43):
Their constituents are the natural customer for cloud seating because
it's one of the cheapest and only ways to produce
more in the interior of the country where desalination is
not available.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
I think a lot of people will watch this and
not have great familiarity with the tech, and they'll wonder
what testing you're doing to ensure that there's not any
contaminant to the water of the air.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
What does your current testing portfolio look like.

Speaker 14 (53:07):
Yeah, so I'm happy to answer that and we'll just moment.
The first thing that I'll say, though, is that this
technology was invented in the United States eighty years ago.
We have eighty years of data on the ecological safety
of cloud seating, on the downwind effects on precipitation from
cloud seating, and resoundingly what we found is, whether you're
using silver iodide or salt, the amount of material that

(53:30):
you're using is a million times less after decades of
operation than the natural amount.

Speaker 15 (53:36):
Of silver species in the soil.

Speaker 14 (53:38):
It's still about ten thousand times less than the lowest
toxological threshold for freshwater bacteria or any other biota or
fish or wildlife. What Rainmaker's doing in this upcoming season,
either in our programs in Utah or Idaho or otherwise
is snow water and soil sampling, just to prove the hypothesis,

(54:00):
just to prove that the amount of silver iodide that's
being added to the environments where we're operating is so
diminimously low that it's not only almost undetectable, but it
has no adverse ecological implications.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
And what about air quality?

Speaker 14 (54:16):
Yeah, fact there, the simple the fact of the matter, right,
is that if you're using about fifty grams of silver
eydide in an operation for thirty minutes, over one hundred thousand,
one hundred thousand acres let alone one hundred square miles.

Speaker 15 (54:34):
That's essentially like a burpsworth of silver.

Speaker 14 (54:38):
Iodide that is so diffuse that it has no impact
on air quality whatsoever, if anything. In fact, the precipitation
induced by air quality can remove particulate from the air
that does cause respiratory issues, and we see that in
India and countries like China. They're deploying this tech to
clean the air in regions where people are developing either
cancer or asthma from pollutants.

Speaker 15 (54:58):
And if you look at.

Speaker 14 (54:59):
The Great Lake, as that lakebed dries more and more arsenic,
more and more particulate is getting kicked up, and people
are getting adverse respiratory outcomes from that particulate. So cloud
seating not only can it reduce the amount of particulate
coming up from a drying lake by bringing water back
to it, but the precipitation can actually take air pollution
out of the air.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
Final question for you, do you think there should be
national policy on cloud seating or is this something states
can regulate themselves.

Speaker 14 (55:29):
This technology is going to benefit everybody in the United States,
and the more people know about it and the more
good faith conversations we get to have about it. The
more people I've found get excited about the prospect of
having more water, of having more abundant farms, of being
able to swim in the lakes and the rivers that
they've always been able to. I totally understand and totally
sympathize with the questions that people have about cloud seating

(55:52):
and an actively asking for for the sake of trust
and transparency and preventing rogue or foreign actors from viciously
modifying the weather. I'm actively asking the federal government for
more clear reporting, stricter rules on what materials you're allowed
to use, and then also a regulatory framework with liability

(56:13):
so if somebody does cause some sort of problem, then
they can be held to account.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
Augusta Storico, the CEO of Rainmaker, appreciate you coming on
the program and sharing your expertise.

Speaker 15 (56:24):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
Matt.

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