October 1, 2024 • 17 mins
In this episode of The Mega Car Review Podcast, Marv and Claudia turn their focus to one of the most talked-about electric vehicles on the market – the Tesla Model 3. Whether you’re a seasoned Tesla fan or someone just starting to explore the world of EVs, this episode is packed with everything you need to know about this groundbreaking car.
Join our hosts as they take a deep dive into the performance, features, and driving experience of the Model 3. They cover all the key details – from acceleration and range to interior tech and design. Marv, always the performance enthusiast, breaks down the car’s speed and handling, while Claudia digs into the practicality of owning a Model 3, from charging infrastructure to how it stacks up against traditional petrol-powered cars.
They don’t shy away from discussing the controversies either. Is Tesla living up to its hype when it comes to build quality? What about customer service and reliability issues that have made headlines? Our hosts give you an honest, unfiltered view of where Tesla shines and where there’s room for improvement.
But it’s not just about the nuts and bolts. Marv and Claudia explore the bigger picture: what does the Tesla Model 3 mean for the future of the automotive industry? They discuss how Tesla is pushing the boundaries of electric vehicles and whether the Model 3 can truly be the “car for the masses” that Elon Musk envisioned. Plus, they compare it to other electric competitors on the market, so you’ll know if it’s really the best option out there.
If you’ve ever wondered if the Tesla Model 3 lives up to its iconic status, or if you’re just curious about the future of electric cars, this is an episode you won’t want to miss. Marv and Claudia have done the legwork, so you don’t have to.
Expect lively debates, practical tips, and expert insights as they weigh the pros and cons of owning a Tesla in 2024.
Episode Highlights:
•In-depth performance review of the Tesla Model 3
•Breakdown of battery range, charging time, and cost of ownership
•Comparisons with other electric vehicles in the same class
•Discussion on Tesla’s place in the future of the car industry
Tune in now for a full review of the Tesla Model 3, and hear what Marv and Claudia really think about this electric powerhouse!
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Welcome to the Mega Car Review Podcast from
Confoundered, your go-to showfor everything cars, whether
you're a gearhead or justshopping for your next set of
wheels.
Every week, your hosts, marvand Claudia, dive into the
latest automotive trends, givehands-on reviews and share the
insights you need to make thesmart decisions in the world of
cars From the hottest models tomarket secrets.
(00:31):
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Get ready for expert opinions,lively debates and all the
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Speaker 2 (00:45):
Okay, so Tesla right.
They're everywhere these days.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Yeah, they've really made a splash.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
It's that tech, that performance.
I mean, you kind of can't helpbut notice them.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
It's hard to ignore that instant torque.
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Yeah, but today we're talking used, we're diving into
whether a USD Model 3 makessense because, let's face it,
not everyone's got the cash fora brand new one.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Smart move, thinking used.
There's a lot to consider.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Which is exactly why you're here.
But before we get into the usedmarket, nitty gritty, those
Model 3s come in a few differentversions, right?
Speaker 3 (01:18):
They do yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Could you give us a quick rundown, just so
everyone's on the same page?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Sure thing.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
So you've got your standard range plus, which is
kind of like the base model.
But don't let that fool you.
It still gets a solid 267 mileson a single charge.
Not too shabby at all, but I'mguessing most people want more.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Oh, absolutely.
And that's where the long rangesteps in.
We're talking a much healthier374 miles, perfect for those
longer hauls where you don'twant range anxiety creeping in
Range anxiety.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
That's a real thing with EVs, huh.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
It's a real thing, especially if you're used to
just pulling into any gasstation.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Makes sense.
Okay, so that's practical, butthere's got to be a Model 3 for
the speed demons out there,right, oh?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
yeah, tesla wouldn't be Tesla without a performance
option.
That's where the performancemodel comes in Zero to 60 in a
mind-blowing 3.1 seconds.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Okay, now you're just showing off.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Hey, I'm just saying it's impressive, electric or not
?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
that's some serious speed.
It's seriously tempting.
I'll give you that.
But let's bring it back down toearth for a sec.
We're talking USED here.
That changes the game, doesn'tit?
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Big time.
It's not just about pickingyour favorite color anymore.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
So, before we get lost in the autopilot daydreams
and those fancy door handles,what are some reality check
things to keep in mind with aused Model 3?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Well, first off, depreciation.
Teslas do hold their value,better than a lot of cars.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
That's what everyone says.
Right, they're like the iPhonesof cars.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
There's some truth to that, but it's not like they're
into it.
We're seeing more and moreTeslas on the road, which means
those use prices are going tofluctuate.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
So give us some numbers.
What's a 2017 Model 3 lookinglike these days?
Ballpark.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Well, you're probably looking at somewhere between
27,000 to 33,000 pounds give ortake.
Condition is everything, asalways.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Okay, that's a decent chunk of change.
What about something a littlenewer, like a 2019-2020?
Speaker 3 (03:04):
That's a decent chunk of change.
What about something a littlenewer, like a 2019-2020?
You're probably looking at33,000 to 43,000 pounds for that
range Again, huge variationdepending on mileage condition.
You know the drill.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
So it's not as simple as just searching used Model 3
and picking the cheapest one.
Huh.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Not at all.
It's not like buying a usedCorolla.
Evaluating a used Tesla, well,it's a different beast.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Okay, I'm intrigued.
Different beast how?
What makes it so different?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Think about it With a regular car, you're checking
the engine right and maybegiving the suspension a look.
With a Tesla, you've got thatbig old battery pack, the
electric motors, and don'tforget about the software.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Oh right, the software.
It's easy to forget that aTesla is basically a computer on
wheels.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
And computers can have glitches, just like any car
can have mechanical issues.
And then there's insurance tothink about.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Insurance.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
I've heard things.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Let's just say those insurance companies are still
wrapping their heads aroundelectric performance A Model 3,
especially those higherperformance trims.
You're looking at insurancegroups 48 to 50.
Easy.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Okay, for those of us who don't speak insurance.
What does that mean for ourwallets?
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Basically higher premiums.
They're looking at the cost ofrepairs, the tech onboard, that
crazy acceleration All adds up.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
So factor that in before you fall in love with the
speed.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Exactly Got to look at the whole picture.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
So insurance another thing to factor in.
But it's not all about thepractical stuff, is it?
There's that Tesla image, thatcool factor.
Does that even matter whenwe're talking used?
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Oh, it definitely matters, Tesla.
They've built a brand, haven'tthey?
And that brand has stayingpower.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
So it's like you're buying into a lifestyle, that
early adopter vibe.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Yeah, there's an element of that, and you know
what that translates into realvalue.
Used Teslas often go for morethan comparable EVs from, say,
other brands.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Interesting.
So it's like there's a premiumon that Tesla badge.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Kinda yeah.
Which begs the question howmuch is that worth to you?
Would you pay extra for it, orwould you rather go with a used
Audi BMW?
Speaker 2 (05:08):
something a little more well, traditionally
luxurious.
That's a good point, and thatactually leads us perfectly into
our next thing the competition,Because the Model 3 isn't the
only electric game in townanymore.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Oh, no way.
The EV market is exploding,which is great for buyers More
choices, better tech.
It's a good time to be shoppingaround For sure.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
So to help with that shopping, let's bring in some
contenders.
We've got the Polestar 2, kindof the stylish cousin from Volvo
.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Sleek those ones.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Then we've got BMW with the i4.
You know, got to have thatGerman engineering in the mix.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Can't go wrong with a bit of that.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Kia's here too, their EV6 has been turning heads.
They're really stepping uptheir EV game I'll give them
that, and, last but not least,the Audi Q4 e-tron for those who
need a bit more space.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
PSUV of the bunch, practical.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Exactly Okay.
So quick fire round here.
Let's focus on one thing eachof these rivals does better than
the Model 3.
Just to give our listeners aclear comparison Gotcha One key
advantage each, you got it.
So, starting with Polestar 2,what's its edge?
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Comfort hands down.
People rave about how smooththe ride is in a Polestar, more
so than the Model 3, which canbe a tad well firm.
If a comfy ride is your jam,the Polestar 2 is worth a look.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Good to know.
Okay, BMW i4, what's its trumpcard?
Speaker 3 (06:26):
It's BMW, so that driving experience it's more
connected, more engaging thanthe Model 3.
You feel the road more, whichsome drivers love.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Makes sense.
So if you like a bit offeedback from the steering wheel
, the i4 might be your pick.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
For sure, different strokes for different folks,
right.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Absolutely Okay.
Kia EV6.
What's its big win?
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Value, Plain and simple.
The EV6 packs a ton of features.
It's roomy and you'll probablyfind a used one for less than a
comparable Model 3.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
So budget-minded buyers pay attention to the EV6.
All right, last one Audi Q4 etron.
What sets it apart?
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Practicality.
Really, it's that SUV thing.
You know, more cargo space thana Model 3, plus that classic
Audi interior if you need theextra room, or you just really
dig that Audi vibe.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
The Q4 e-tron has its appeal.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Makes sense.
Different strokes, like yousaid.
Okay, so we've got thecompetition all lined up, but
now let's circle back to theModel 3 itself.
Especially those used models,We've got to make sure our
listener knows exactly whatthey're getting into.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Due diligence is key.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Couldn't agree more.
So we talked about versionsdepreciation, the Tesla image,
about versions depreciation, theTesla image.
Now the nitty gritty are thereany year, specific issues,
things to watch out for,depending on the model year of
the used?
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Model 3?
Oh yeah, definitely Teslashaven't been around that long
but, like any car, they've hadtheir share of, shall we say,
learning curves.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Okay, so let's break it down.
2017, 2018 models Any red flagsthere?
Speaker 3 (07:50):
So those early ones.
There were some reports ofbuild quality issues, panel gaps
, paint imperfections, you knowthose kind of things.
Even some of those fancy doorhandles, the ones that pop out.
They were a bit glitchy on someearly models.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Ah, early adopter woes.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Exactly, tesla was still figuring things out.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
So with those early models, a careful inspection is
a must.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Absolutely A good pre-purchase inspection from
someone who really knows Tesla'sis worth its weight in gold.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Good advice.
Okay, what about the 2019-2020Model 3s?
Things get better.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
They did.
Yeah, build quality seems tohave improved a lot.
Those early hiccups mostlyironed out, but there were some
reports of touchscreen issues.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Ah, the heart of the Tesla experience.
What kind of issues.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Responsiveness.
Sometimes the screen wouldfreeze up or even go completely
blank.
Not ideal.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Not ideal at all.
What's the fix for that newscreen?
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Thankfully, a lot of those were software issues.
Tesla, they're always pushingout updates over the air, just
like your phone.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
So keep those updates coming.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
For sure.
Buying a used Tesla, it'salmost like buying a used laptop
.
Those updates they're crucial.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Speaking of tech, let's talk autopilot.
That's a big one, right?
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Huge.
But it can be a bit confusing,especially in the used market.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Right, lay it on us Autopilot.
What do we need to know whenshopping used?
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Okay, so not all autopilot systems are created
equal.
Tesla's been constantlytweaking the hardware, andy, the
software, over the years.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
So autopilot in a 2017 might be way different than
a 2021.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Night and day sometimes.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Okay, so how do we keep track of all that?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
First thing, the hardware.
Tesla has different versions ofits hardware suite.
That's the cameras, the sensors, all the brains behind
autopilot.
An older Model 3 might haveolder hardware, which means even
with the latest software itmight not be able to do all the
new autopilot stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
So it's like trying to play the latest video game on
an old computer.
The game might be updated, butyour computer just can't handle
it.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Perfect analogy.
So yeah, checking that hardwareversion is crucial.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
How do we do that?
Is it like hidden in a menusomewhere?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Usually in the car settings, or if you're buying
from a dealer, they should know.
If they don't, that's a redflag in itself.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Good point.
Okay, so hardware is important,but you mentioned software
updates too.
How do those factor intoautopilot?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Those are crucial for keeping the system current.
Tesla is always refining thesoftware, making it better at
detecting objects, even addingnew features.
It's why those over-the-airupdates are so important.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
It's kind of cool when you think about it.
Your car is literally gettingsmarter over time.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
It's wild, isn't it?
But here's the catch Not allhardware can run all-L software.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Ah the catch.
There's always a catch.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Right.
So yeah, it's a bit of a dancebetween those two.
Do your research.
Make sure the used Model 3you're looking at can actually
run the autopilot features youwant.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Makes sense, Okay, Autopilot dud check.
Now on to the big one, thething no one wants to think
about, but we have to thebattery.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
The heart.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
So battery health Break it down for us.
What do we need to know?
Speaker 3 (10:57):
All right.
So Tesla batteries are prettydarn good, but like all L
batteries, they degrade overtime.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Just like our phones, they don't hold a charge as
well after a while.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Exactly and just like with your phone as the battery
degrades, you get less range.
Pretty simple, really.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Makes sense.
So how do we check a usedTesla's battery health?
Asking for a friend, of course,of course, okay.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
First thing, ask the seller for a battery health
report.
The car can generate one.
It shows how much capacity thebattery has and now W compared
to when it was brand new.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
So like a battery report card.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Pretty much.
You want to see a batterythat's still in good shape.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Some degradation is normal, but if it's lost, a huge
E chunk of its capacity.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
that's a huge E red flag, duly noted.
Yeah.
Anything else to watch out for?
Battery-wise, keep an eye onthe car's stated range.
Does it seem low for that modelyear?
Inversion Could be a sign thebattery's seen better days.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
So if a 2019 long range is only advertising like
200 miles of range?
Speaker 3 (11:56):
that's suspect, very suspect.
Something's not adding up there.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Okay, Good to know.
What about warranties?
Tesla covers their batteriesright.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
They do Eight years on the battery and drive unit.
But here's the thing.
The coverage it can vary,Depends on the model year, the
mileage.
It gets complicated.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
So read the fine print or you know the warranty
information.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Always a good idea, and if you're not sure, contact
Tesla directly.
They can tell you exactlywhat's covered.
Solid advice.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Yeah, okay, battery Checked.
Now what about the dreaded Sword Servicing?
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Ah, yes, servicing.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Everyone's favorite topic, exactly so myth busting
time EVs.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
They don't need AHE maintenance.
Right, that's what I've heard.
That's the dream, isn't it?
The reality is a bit morenuanced.
Less maintenance than a petrolor diesel car absolutely, but
maintenance-free Not quite.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Okay, so spill the beans.
What key disservicing are wetalking about for a used Model 3
?
Speaker 3 (12:52):
The good news no more oil changes, no oil.
No filters to replace.
That's one less thing to worryabout.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Music to my ears.
Anything else, we can cross offthe list.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Since electric motors have way fewer moving parts
than those big clunky engines,there's just inherently less
that can go wrong.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
So simpler is better, basically.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Pretty much, but there are still things that need
attention Brakes, tires, fluids, the usual stuff Essentials
right, Gotta stay safe out there.
Exactly, and then you've gotyour Tesla-specific service
items.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Ooh, like what Tell me more.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Software updates.
Obviously We've talked aboutthose, but also things like that
touchscreen, those fancy doorhandles, even that phantom
braking issue some owners havereported.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Wait, becca, phantom braking, that doesn't sound good
.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Not great.
No, it's where the car slams onthe brakes for seemingly no
reason.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Yikes.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Okay, what causes that and is there a fix?
Seems to be related to thecar's sensors how they read the
road.
Tesla's been working onsoftware updates to address it,
but yeah, not fun to experience.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Another point for the software updates.
Anything else on the servicingfront.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Tesla recommends servicing every two years or
25,000 miles, whichever comesfirst.
Their warranty is decent but,like we said before, know what
it covers, especially with aused car.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Solid advice.
Now on to something a bit morecheerful Money saved.
E One of the perks of goingelectric.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Road tax, you mean.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Ding, ding ding.
No road tax on a pure electriccar like the Model 3 here in the
UK.
That's money back in yourpocket compared to those petrol
guzzlers.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Absolutely.
And don't forget about thoseultra low emission zones.
London, I'm looking at you.
The Model 3 laughs in the faceof those charges.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Another win for Team EV.
Okay, so we've covered a ton ofground today the allure of a
used Model 3, the researchinvolved, those year-specific
quirks.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
We've talked insurance charging, autopilot,
even those phantom brakes.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
And those lovely road tax savings.
Our listener must be feelinglike a used Tesla expert by now.
Okay, so we've gone over allthe details, all the ins and
outs of snagging a used Model 3.
But now for the big question,and I'm putting you on the spot
here Is it actually a good buyin 2024?
Used Model 3.
Yay or nay?
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Oh, you're really going to make me pick.
Huh, there's noone-size-fits-all answer.
Cars are personal, you know.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Fair enough, fair enough.
So what are the big things ourlisteners should be thinking
about as they make this decision?
Speaker 3 (15:17):
It really boils down to this what are your
need-to-haves versus thenice-to-haves?
If you're on a super tightbudget and just want to get into
A&Y EV for the lowest pricepossible, well, a used Model 3
might not be it, Especially nowthere are more affordable EVs
popping up on the used marketall the time.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
We did touch on some of those rivals Right.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
But if it's that Tesla experience, you're after
that tech, the instantacceleration, that feeling of I
don't know being part ofsomething.
Well, a used Model 3 can stilldeliver that.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
It's a unique feeling , for sure.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Totally.
But even with all that got tobe realistic.
Remember those potential issueswe talked about Battery health,
those software updates, thosequirks, depending on the year.
Go in with your eyes open.
Do your homework.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Couldn't agree more.
So for our listeners out thereabout to brave the used car
world, any parting words ofwisdom.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Okay, so first up, knowledge is power.
We've covered a lot, but don'tstop here.
Research those specific modelyears you're into.
Check out forums, read reviewsfrom actual owners, you know.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Because no one knows these cars better than the
people who live with them everyday.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Exactly, and second that pre-purchase inspection
non-negotiable.
Find a mechanic who reallyknows EVs, especially Teslas,
and have them give it a thoroughlook over.
It's an investment that couldsave you a lot of headaches down
the road.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
For sure.
Okay, that's research andinspection covered.
What else?
Speaker 3 (16:43):
This is going to sound cheesy, but have fun.
Buying a car, even a used one,should be exciting.
Don't get so bogged down in thedetails that you forget to
enjoy the process.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Amen to that.
It's about finding the rightcar for you, for your life, the
one that, yeah, maybe even putsa little smile on your face when
you get behind the wheel.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Exactly.
It's got to be more than just apractical decision.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Couldn't have said it better myself.
So to everyone out there readyto take the plunge into the
world of used EVs, we're herecheering you on.
Do your research, trust yourgut and, most importantly, enjoy
the ride.
Until next time, drive safe,drive smart, and we'll see you
on the next deep dive.
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Every week, your hosts, marvand Claudia, dive into the
latest automotive trends, givehands-on reviews and share the
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Speaker 2 (00:45):
Okay, so Tesla right.
They're everywhere these days.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Yeah, they've really made a splash.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
It's that tech, that performance.
I mean, you kind of can't helpbut notice them.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
It's hard to ignore that instant torque.
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Yeah, but today we're talking used, we're diving into
whether a USD Model 3 makessense because, let's face it,
not everyone's got the cash fora brand new one.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Smart move, thinking used.
There's a lot to consider.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Which is exactly why you're here.
But before we get into the usedmarket, nitty gritty, those
Model 3s come in a few differentversions, right?
Speaker 3 (01:18):
They do yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Could you give us a quick rundown, just so
everyone's on the same page?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Sure thing.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
So you've got your standard range plus, which is
kind of like the base model.
But don't let that fool you.
It still gets a solid 267 mileson a single charge.
Not too shabby at all, but I'mguessing most people want more.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Oh, absolutely.
And that's where the long rangesteps in.
We're talking a much healthier374 miles, perfect for those
longer hauls where you don'twant range anxiety creeping in
Range anxiety.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
That's a real thing with EVs, huh.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
It's a real thing, especially if you're used to
just pulling into any gasstation.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Makes sense.
Okay, so that's practical, butthere's got to be a Model 3 for
the speed demons out there,right, oh?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
yeah, tesla wouldn't be Tesla without a performance
option.
That's where the performancemodel comes in Zero to 60 in a
mind-blowing 3.1 seconds.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Okay, now you're just showing off.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Hey, I'm just saying it's impressive, electric or not
?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
that's some serious speed.
It's seriously tempting.
I'll give you that.
But let's bring it back down toearth for a sec.
We're talking USED here.
That changes the game, doesn'tit?
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Big time.
It's not just about pickingyour favorite color anymore.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
So, before we get lost in the autopilot daydreams
and those fancy door handles,what are some reality check
things to keep in mind with aused Model 3?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Well, first off, depreciation.
Teslas do hold their value,better than a lot of cars.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
That's what everyone says.
Right, they're like the iPhonesof cars.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
There's some truth to that, but it's not like they're
into it.
We're seeing more and moreTeslas on the road, which means
those use prices are going tofluctuate.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
So give us some numbers.
What's a 2017 Model 3 lookinglike these days?
Ballpark.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Well, you're probably looking at somewhere between
27,000 to 33,000 pounds give ortake.
Condition is everything, asalways.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Okay, that's a decent chunk of change.
What about something a littlenewer, like a 2019-2020?
Speaker 3 (03:04):
That's a decent chunk of change.
What about something a littlenewer, like a 2019-2020?
You're probably looking at33,000 to 43,000 pounds for that
range Again, huge variationdepending on mileage condition.
You know the drill.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
So it's not as simple as just searching used Model 3
and picking the cheapest one.
Huh.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Not at all.
It's not like buying a usedCorolla.
Evaluating a used Tesla, well,it's a different beast.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Okay, I'm intrigued.
Different beast how?
What makes it so different?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Think about it With a regular car, you're checking
the engine right and maybegiving the suspension a look.
With a Tesla, you've got thatbig old battery pack, the
electric motors, and don'tforget about the software.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Oh right, the software.
It's easy to forget that aTesla is basically a computer on
wheels.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
And computers can have glitches, just like any car
can have mechanical issues.
And then there's insurance tothink about.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Insurance.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
I've heard things.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Let's just say those insurance companies are still
wrapping their heads aroundelectric performance A Model 3,
especially those higherperformance trims.
You're looking at insurancegroups 48 to 50.
Easy.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Okay, for those of us who don't speak insurance.
What does that mean for ourwallets?
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Basically higher premiums.
They're looking at the cost ofrepairs, the tech onboard, that
crazy acceleration All adds up.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
So factor that in before you fall in love with the
speed.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Exactly Got to look at the whole picture.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
So insurance another thing to factor in.
But it's not all about thepractical stuff, is it?
There's that Tesla image, thatcool factor.
Does that even matter whenwe're talking used?
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Oh, it definitely matters, Tesla.
They've built a brand, haven'tthey?
And that brand has stayingpower.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
So it's like you're buying into a lifestyle, that
early adopter vibe.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Yeah, there's an element of that, and you know
what that translates into realvalue.
Used Teslas often go for morethan comparable EVs from, say,
other brands.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Interesting.
So it's like there's a premiumon that Tesla badge.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Kinda yeah.
Which begs the question howmuch is that worth to you?
Would you pay extra for it, orwould you rather go with a used
Audi BMW?
Speaker 2 (05:08):
something a little more well, traditionally
luxurious.
That's a good point, and thatactually leads us perfectly into
our next thing the competition,Because the Model 3 isn't the
only electric game in townanymore.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Oh, no way.
The EV market is exploding,which is great for buyers More
choices, better tech.
It's a good time to be shoppingaround For sure.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
So to help with that shopping, let's bring in some
contenders.
We've got the Polestar 2, kindof the stylish cousin from Volvo
.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Sleek those ones.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Then we've got BMW with the i4.
You know, got to have thatGerman engineering in the mix.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Can't go wrong with a bit of that.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Kia's here too, their EV6 has been turning heads.
They're really stepping uptheir EV game I'll give them
that, and, last but not least,the Audi Q4 e-tron for those who
need a bit more space.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
PSUV of the bunch, practical.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Exactly Okay.
So quick fire round here.
Let's focus on one thing eachof these rivals does better than
the Model 3.
Just to give our listeners aclear comparison Gotcha One key
advantage each, you got it.
So, starting with Polestar 2,what's its edge?
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Comfort hands down.
People rave about how smooththe ride is in a Polestar, more
so than the Model 3, which canbe a tad well firm.
If a comfy ride is your jam,the Polestar 2 is worth a look.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Good to know.
Okay, BMW i4, what's its trumpcard?
Speaker 3 (06:26):
It's BMW, so that driving experience it's more
connected, more engaging thanthe Model 3.
You feel the road more, whichsome drivers love.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Makes sense.
So if you like a bit offeedback from the steering wheel
, the i4 might be your pick.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
For sure, different strokes for different folks,
right.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Absolutely Okay.
Kia EV6.
What's its big win?
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Value, Plain and simple.
The EV6 packs a ton of features.
It's roomy and you'll probablyfind a used one for less than a
comparable Model 3.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
So budget-minded buyers pay attention to the EV6.
All right, last one Audi Q4 etron.
What sets it apart?
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Practicality.
Really, it's that SUV thing.
You know, more cargo space thana Model 3, plus that classic
Audi interior if you need theextra room, or you just really
dig that Audi vibe.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
The Q4 e-tron has its appeal.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Makes sense.
Different strokes, like yousaid.
Okay, so we've got thecompetition all lined up, but
now let's circle back to theModel 3 itself.
Especially those used models,We've got to make sure our
listener knows exactly whatthey're getting into.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Due diligence is key.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Couldn't agree more.
So we talked about versionsdepreciation, the Tesla image,
about versions depreciation, theTesla image.
Now the nitty gritty are thereany year, specific issues,
things to watch out for,depending on the model year of
the used?
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Model 3?
Oh yeah, definitely Teslashaven't been around that long
but, like any car, they've hadtheir share of, shall we say,
learning curves.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Okay, so let's break it down.
2017, 2018 models Any red flagsthere?
Speaker 3 (07:50):
So those early ones.
There were some reports ofbuild quality issues, panel gaps
, paint imperfections, you knowthose kind of things.
Even some of those fancy doorhandles, the ones that pop out.
They were a bit glitchy on someearly models.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Ah, early adopter woes.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Exactly, tesla was still figuring things out.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
So with those early models, a careful inspection is
a must.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Absolutely A good pre-purchase inspection from
someone who really knows Tesla'sis worth its weight in gold.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Good advice.
Okay, what about the 2019-2020Model 3s?
Things get better.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
They did.
Yeah, build quality seems tohave improved a lot.
Those early hiccups mostlyironed out, but there were some
reports of touchscreen issues.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Ah, the heart of the Tesla experience.
What kind of issues.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Responsiveness.
Sometimes the screen wouldfreeze up or even go completely
blank.
Not ideal.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Not ideal at all.
What's the fix for that newscreen?
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Thankfully, a lot of those were software issues.
Tesla, they're always pushingout updates over the air, just
like your phone.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
So keep those updates coming.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
For sure.
Buying a used Tesla, it'salmost like buying a used laptop
.
Those updates they're crucial.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Speaking of tech, let's talk autopilot.
That's a big one, right?
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Huge.
But it can be a bit confusing,especially in the used market.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Right, lay it on us Autopilot.
What do we need to know whenshopping used?
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Okay, so not all autopilot systems are created
equal.
Tesla's been constantlytweaking the hardware, andy, the
software, over the years.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
So autopilot in a 2017 might be way different than
a 2021.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Night and day sometimes.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Okay, so how do we keep track of all that?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
First thing, the hardware.
Tesla has different versions ofits hardware suite.
That's the cameras, the sensors, all the brains behind
autopilot.
An older Model 3 might haveolder hardware, which means even
with the latest software itmight not be able to do all the
new autopilot stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
So it's like trying to play the latest video game on
an old computer.
The game might be updated, butyour computer just can't handle
it.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Perfect analogy.
So yeah, checking that hardwareversion is crucial.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
How do we do that?
Is it like hidden in a menusomewhere?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Usually in the car settings, or if you're buying
from a dealer, they should know.
If they don't, that's a redflag in itself.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Good point.
Okay, so hardware is important,but you mentioned software
updates too.
How do those factor intoautopilot?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Those are crucial for keeping the system current.
Tesla is always refining thesoftware, making it better at
detecting objects, even addingnew features.
It's why those over-the-airupdates are so important.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
It's kind of cool when you think about it.
Your car is literally gettingsmarter over time.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
It's wild, isn't it?
But here's the catch Not allhardware can run all-L software.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Ah the catch.
There's always a catch.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Right.
So yeah, it's a bit of a dancebetween those two.
Do your research.
Make sure the used Model 3you're looking at can actually
run the autopilot features youwant.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Makes sense, Okay, Autopilot dud check.
Now on to the big one, thething no one wants to think
about, but we have to thebattery.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
The heart.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
So battery health Break it down for us.
What do we need to know?
Speaker 3 (10:57):
All right.
So Tesla batteries are prettydarn good, but like all L
batteries, they degrade overtime.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Just like our phones, they don't hold a charge as
well after a while.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Exactly and just like with your phone as the battery
degrades, you get less range.
Pretty simple, really.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Makes sense.
So how do we check a usedTesla's battery health?
Asking for a friend, of course,of course, okay.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
First thing, ask the seller for a battery health
report.
The car can generate one.
It shows how much capacity thebattery has and now W compared
to when it was brand new.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
So like a battery report card.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Pretty much.
You want to see a batterythat's still in good shape.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Some degradation is normal, but if it's lost, a huge
E chunk of its capacity.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
that's a huge E red flag, duly noted.
Yeah.
Anything else to watch out for?
Battery-wise, keep an eye onthe car's stated range.
Does it seem low for that modelyear?
Inversion Could be a sign thebattery's seen better days.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
So if a 2019 long range is only advertising like
200 miles of range?
Speaker 3 (11:56):
that's suspect, very suspect.
Something's not adding up there.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Okay, Good to know.
What about warranties?
Tesla covers their batteriesright.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
They do Eight years on the battery and drive unit.
But here's the thing.
The coverage it can vary,Depends on the model year, the
mileage.
It gets complicated.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
So read the fine print or you know the warranty
information.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Always a good idea, and if you're not sure, contact
Tesla directly.
They can tell you exactlywhat's covered.
Solid advice.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Yeah, okay, battery Checked.
Now what about the dreaded Sword Servicing?
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Ah, yes, servicing.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Everyone's favorite topic, exactly so myth busting
time EVs.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
They don't need AHE maintenance.
Right, that's what I've heard.
That's the dream, isn't it?
The reality is a bit morenuanced.
Less maintenance than a petrolor diesel car absolutely, but
maintenance-free Not quite.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Okay, so spill the beans.
What key disservicing are wetalking about for a used Model 3
?
Speaker 3 (12:52):
The good news no more oil changes, no oil.
No filters to replace.
That's one less thing to worryabout.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Music to my ears.
Anything else, we can cross offthe list.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Since electric motors have way fewer moving parts
than those big clunky engines,there's just inherently less
that can go wrong.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
So simpler is better, basically.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Pretty much, but there are still things that need
attention Brakes, tires, fluids, the usual stuff Essentials
right, Gotta stay safe out there.
Exactly, and then you've gotyour Tesla-specific service
items.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Ooh, like what Tell me more.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Software updates.
Obviously We've talked aboutthose, but also things like that
touchscreen, those fancy doorhandles, even that phantom
braking issue some owners havereported.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Wait, becca, phantom braking, that doesn't sound good
.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Not great.
No, it's where the car slams onthe brakes for seemingly no
reason.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Yikes.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Okay, what causes that and is there a fix?
Seems to be related to thecar's sensors how they read the
road.
Tesla's been working onsoftware updates to address it,
but yeah, not fun to experience.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Another point for the software updates.
Anything else on the servicingfront.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Tesla recommends servicing every two years or
25,000 miles, whichever comesfirst.
Their warranty is decent but,like we said before, know what
it covers, especially with aused car.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Solid advice.
Now on to something a bit morecheerful Money saved.
E One of the perks of goingelectric.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Road tax, you mean.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Ding, ding ding.
No road tax on a pure electriccar like the Model 3 here in the
UK.
That's money back in yourpocket compared to those petrol
guzzlers.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Absolutely.
And don't forget about thoseultra low emission zones.
London, I'm looking at you.
The Model 3 laughs in the faceof those charges.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Another win for Team EV.
Okay, so we've covered a ton ofground today the allure of a
used Model 3, the researchinvolved, those year-specific
quirks.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
We've talked insurance charging, autopilot,
even those phantom brakes.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
And those lovely road tax savings.
Our listener must be feelinglike a used Tesla expert by now.
Okay, so we've gone over allthe details, all the ins and
outs of snagging a used Model 3.
But now for the big question,and I'm putting you on the spot
here Is it actually a good buyin 2024?
Used Model 3.
Yay or nay?
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Oh, you're really going to make me pick.
Huh, there's noone-size-fits-all answer.
Cars are personal, you know.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Fair enough, fair enough.
So what are the big things ourlisteners should be thinking
about as they make this decision?
Speaker 3 (15:17):
It really boils down to this what are your
need-to-haves versus thenice-to-haves?
If you're on a super tightbudget and just want to get into
A&Y EV for the lowest pricepossible, well, a used Model 3
might not be it, Especially nowthere are more affordable EVs
popping up on the used marketall the time.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
We did touch on some of those rivals Right.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
But if it's that Tesla experience, you're after
that tech, the instantacceleration, that feeling of I
don't know being part ofsomething.
Well, a used Model 3 can stilldeliver that.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
It's a unique feeling , for sure.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Totally.
But even with all that got tobe realistic.
Remember those potential issueswe talked about Battery health,
those software updates, thosequirks, depending on the year.
Go in with your eyes open.
Do your homework.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Couldn't agree more.
So for our listeners out thereabout to brave the used car
world, any parting words ofwisdom.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Okay, so first up, knowledge is power.
We've covered a lot, but don'tstop here.
Research those specific modelyears you're into.
Check out forums, read reviewsfrom actual owners, you know.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Because no one knows these cars better than the
people who live with them everyday.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Exactly, and second that pre-purchase inspection
non-negotiable.
Find a mechanic who reallyknows EVs, especially Teslas,
and have them give it a thoroughlook over.
It's an investment that couldsave you a lot of headaches down
the road.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
For sure.
Okay, that's research andinspection covered.
What else?
Speaker 3 (16:43):
This is going to sound cheesy, but have fun.
Buying a car, even a used one,should be exciting.
Don't get so bogged down in thedetails that you forget to
enjoy the process.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Amen to that.
It's about finding the rightcar for you, for your life, the
one that, yeah, maybe even putsa little smile on your face when
you get behind the wheel.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Exactly.
It's got to be more than just apractical decision.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Couldn't have said it better myself.
So to everyone out there readyto take the plunge into the
world of used EVs, we're herecheering you on.
Do your research, trust yourgut and, most importantly, enjoy
the ride.
Until next time, drive safe,drive smart, and we'll see you
on the next deep dive.
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