Smash Burgers, DJ Stories & Coastal Vibes w/ Ill Flow & Queen B

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What’s the buzz about smash burgers, and why do they taste so much better? Join us for an engaging conversation with Ill Flow and Queen B as we swap stories about the golden days of Carl's Jr. when table service was a thing, and the BBQ Bacon Western burger was a must-have. We'll also share our podcasting journey, from capturing our voices with GoPros and Logitech webcams to engaging with the fast-paced world of TikToks and YouTube Shorts. Get the scoop on the technical setups that make our multi-angle views pop and the challenges we face to get our content noticed on ever-evolving social media platforms.

Ever wondered what it’s like to DJ on a rooftop near the beach in Pismo? You'll love hearing about Ill Flow's exhilarating experiences, including crate digging for vinyl treasures and the contrasting digital cataloging on the Discogs app. Take a peek into the camaraderie of DJ battles at Beat Junkies with DJ Babu, and our personal adventures like a quirky visit to Pothead coffee shop in San Diego. We also touch on the joy of discovering records in person and how these experiences shape the music we love and share.

From the thrill of our first turntables to flying kites on breezy coastal days, we reminisce about the youthful passion and energy that fuels our DJ sets. Explore the ups and downs of performing for diverse crowds, from massive festivals to intimate bar gigs, and the joy of keeping our sets fresh and engaging. Hear about iconic radio moments, the excitement surrounding Kendrick Lamar, and how we navigate the unpredictable nature of our performances to keep the audience hooked. This episode is a musical rollercoaster filled with nostalgia, excitement, and a behind-the-scenes look at the DJ lifestyle.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
all right, y'all.
We got uh ill flow with ustonight.
Yeah, whoa, what up ill flow?
What's up dog queen b over herechilling with us how you doing
hello went and uh did a little45 session today.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hell yeah, little 7 inch vinyl spin Set.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Hell yeah, grab some smash burgers.
Chilling, drinking, smoking.
Those smash burgers are fire,though I like them better than A
regular burger.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
You see Carl's Jr Trying to come out with a smash
burger, are they?

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
It's on the menu and everything.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
I don't know, do you?
Yeah, we don't go to Carl'smuch.
Carl's fire, really.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Hell yeah, I felt like Carl's was always like the
premium quality of fast foodwhen it comes to like burgers.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Yeah, probably.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
I can see that.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Remember when they used to bring it to your table
back in the day like arestaurant, oh yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Yeah, bring it to your table back in the day like
a restaurant.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, you sitdown and they bring it out.
Yeah, completely different.
Where do they have the?
Uh, barbecue bacon, western orsomething, what is there?
Oh, you do like that one thatone's all right, it has like an
onion ring on it or some shitbarbecue sauce, oh man.
So, uh, man, where are we goingover man?

(01:24):
Restream IO, Discogs, yeah,Restream Beat Junkies, Twitch,
Beat Junkie, iOS, Trying to getthis little podcast playing
around with it.
Just chilling, man, I wastalking to Ilflow when you were
gone.
Yeah, I was telling him aboutthe podcast and he was like you
know, if it blows up, that'scool right.

(01:44):
And I was telling him about thepodcast and he was like you
know, if it blows up, that'scool right.
Even today, just streaming, Idon't know 15, 20 people jumped
on watching, just hanging out.
But if not, we got Ilflo'svoice, we got your voice, we got
my voice and God forbidsomething happens to any of us.
We'll live for a little whilewith our voices.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Forever History's met .

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah, we're going to distribute this out to my girls
and out to everybody else.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Hey, when you're 18, listen to all this shit and see
how crazy dad was.
We bought microphones andheadphones.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Yeah, you might not understand everything we're
talking about.
You're a little young, but yeah.
That's right.
Yeah, we got to get some.
Get some cameras, though.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
You're rocking a gopro 8, uh, gopro 8 and um a
little logitech webcam oh yeah,I heard the logis are real
popular man, yeah a little 70,80 dollars, maybe like 90 or 100
, something like that.
I use that for my, my ceiling,top down, top down view of the
the tables I use that.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
What is what's it hanging by, like what's it
mounted to man?

Speaker 2 (02:49):
I don't know, man, I just I think I just I got some
like some type of velcro allright, velcro from walmart and I
just, you know, put it up thereand wrap, yeah, wrap it around
just made it work because youknow we got this little ipad
right here, man, but that shit'snot tall enough to get a
top-down view.
Yeah, no, that top-down view isa tough one, man, the top-down

(03:10):
view.
I feel like having the twocamera angles is better than
just having one, because you canget bored just staring at one
angle, you know.
So I always try to have it towhere it's 20 seconds max
between each camera and theyflip between each other, and
then the visual is behind youthat way.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
So you have it programmed automatically, you
don't have to queue it up, youdon't have to hit a button to
switch.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
No, yeah, obs, the program that I use for streaming
.
It has this thing called anadvanced scene switcher and you
can automatically set it up yourdifferent camera angles and
it'll automatically switchbetween the two or whatever you
know, based on the time you puton it.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Two camera view 26 seconds, whatever, 20 seconds,
20 seconds.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Cycle through everything Because people's
attention span is short, evenshorter and shorter nowadays,
right yeah, phones and all that.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
You go through Vine when, when vine was around, that
was a little short video clipabout that, yeah yeah, you got
tiktoks, you got vines thatdidn't last long youtube.
Shorts my girls are all overthem.
Shorts, all the time, yeah,you're like dead.
I'm watching shorts.
I was like what the fuck is ashort man?
Just like same as a real home.
Yeah, it's a little video clip.
That's all all I'm watching,but they call it shorts.
I was like whatever.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
TikTok.
How short are the TikTok videos?

Speaker 1 (04:29):
TikTok can go for a little while now.
Yeah, some of this stuff comesacross my feed, man.
I might look like a conspiracytheorist sometimes, man, because
I'd be like having Egypt andAnunnaki and aliens and all
kinds of crazy shit it's like arabbit hole, man.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
You can go down this fucking rabbit hole of just of
shit I never downloaded into myphone, but I have an account and
I realized that, um, I was likeuploading, uploading content to
it via the laptop.
And I realized, if you don'tgot it downloaded to your phone
and you ain't engaging, they'renot going to open the doors for

(05:09):
you.
The floodgates is going to becrickets.
It's going to be dry.
Yeah, you can upload as much asyou want, boy, but if you ain't
engaging with other people orstuff like that, or following
people, what do you think thebest way is man?
So when you do OBS and you haveyour overhead and you have your

(05:48):
side, you have your differentprofiles and it's cycling
through.
How do you like?
I have another monitor off tomy side, all right, and it has
my chat feed so I can seeeverybody who's like you know
who's chopping it up with me.
Yeah, um, restreams posted likerestream.
I have this restream chat and Ihave the twitch chat.
The restream chat.
It's supposed to like displayall your chats.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
It's supposed to display from youtube, youtube,
facebook, instagram, blah, blah,blah but the one that never
shows is youtube's.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
I mean, uh, facebook, it never shows the facebook
comments.
So sometimes I'll have like myphone right here, I'll have the,
the ip, I mean the TV with theextra monitor with the two chats
.
So I got the two chats blaringand I can see my Twitch and I
can see the rest.
But sometimes I'll just playbetween Facebook looking at them

(06:38):
, because you got your page andyou got your regular profile, so
I'll toggle between them justto see if I see anybody say
something, just so I can be likecomment back, so they don't
think I'm ignoring them yeahwell, you, we, you gotta
interact right, we gotta make ituh banter back and forth.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
You know I'm talking shit, doing whatever, keeping it
light, uh, keeping itinteresting, you know, whatever
it may be, yeah, that's cool,man, we got to get all this.
Do you have green screen stuffset up to virtual backgrounds?
All that good stuff?

Speaker 2 (07:05):
green.
Uh, I'm gonna call it anofficial green screen.
But I just pretty much went toa fabric store and bought me
some green sheets, yeah, andjust pinned them up against the
wall all right that works manand then got me, got me one for
the table.
So, um, when you get the topdown view, what's it?

Speaker 1 (07:23):
look like the top down view, what, what, what
graphic do you have on the table?
So, um, when you get the topdown view, what's it look like?
The top down view, what, what,what graphic do you have on the
table?

Speaker 2 (07:29):
um, I on the table, it's a green, green cloth, and
then I just put whatever,whatever graphics I have, like I
have like a bunch yeah, likeover the time, over the time of
streaming, I would createdifferent scenarios and
different scenes and stuff and Iwould have like six different
types of visual loops.

(07:50):
You know what I'm saying?
That I would switch between.
So after a while those sixwould get boring.
So I go create another six, andthen I had a Halloween one, I
had a Christmas one, and thenthey just start like All themes
yeah, themes.
You know, I had this one whereit's like a nighttime nightlife
theme, where I'm like you knowit's like a lot of time lapse
videos that are just like goingcrazy.

(08:12):
So, yeah, man, you just aftercollecting them for a while,
they just kind of start buildingup and you could just kind of
switch between them, because theOBS program allows you to save
these profiles.
So your profile becomes big andyou're like which one do I feel
like having behind?

Speaker 1 (08:27):
me today.
I'm going to keep it freshToday's going to be.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
I got this Sunday one where I'm like DJing in the
clouds on a Sunday, like yeahand like or I'm on the beach, on
you know, on the actual water,like it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
I always wanted.
I always wanted to DJ at thebeach and I always wanted to DJ
at a rooftop Fun.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
I mean, I DJed one time at that Pismo Inn.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
On the rooftop.
It's like third floor.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
Close to rooftop On the beach Still got a view,
though.
Absolutely Hell, yeah, youcan't compare to that man.
Is there a better office?

Speaker 2 (09:04):
Right Pismo, you can't beat it.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Yeah, not a better office man.
Discogs app Yup, Get yourcatalog in there.
Get your vinyl up on the Discogapp.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
That's the spot, or as much as you can do a lot with
the discogs.
You know, if you got some breadsaved up, you'll have a library
in no time pretty quickly yeahbut it takes away from the I
don't know there's.
There's something about goingand digging digging through,
yeah, when you go, when you dig,you know you did you go to a

(09:41):
record store and you findsomething.
Or you see a name, like I know,this is a dope record, I don't
remember this song but I'm gonnabuy it anyways, yeah.
And then you get home and it'slike yeah, it's fire art, like
no, that's not the one.
And then it ends up in thetrade pile because you know, I
got a trade pile of vinyls thateven other record play, even
other record buyers wouldn'ttrade with me.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Like you can keep those ones, bro, but I want this
one, keep the other five, keepthat, elvis, what you mean but
yeah, yeah, you know so uh, beatJunkies, man you down there on
Tuesdays yeah, yeah, every otherTuesday, alright down there
with DJ Babu getting nice on thejuggles.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
We're doing a.
We're doing a Sucker MC'schallenge Right now.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
You got a battle coming up.
Yeah, nah, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
I don't.
No, I don't.
I got I won the Michi battle,but I'm about to.
I got the being that I won thebattle.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
You get to host it again.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
I get to host it again.
I'm the headlining.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
DJ for the next Mechie event, which is next
month on the 13th.
July 13th, june, june 13thwe're still in May.
We'll be back by then we canhead out there, where you guys
going.
We got to go down to San Diego.
Oh nice, her mom's down there,so we break off out there.
Where are you guys going?
We got to go down to San Diegooh nice, yeah, her mom's down

(11:06):
there, so we break off downthere and chill, go visit, hang
out.
Yeah, we just went to Seaportdown in San Diego man.
And we were talking about beingkids with our moms, right, and
we were talking about her momversus my mom, white mom versus
Latina mom.
My mom thinks it's hilariouswhen we act like kids, right,

(11:27):
we're young at heart again,right, her mom, she wants us to
cut that shit out a little bit,man, we're doing a little too
much.
But we were down there walkingaround Seaport man, and the USS
Midway was down there.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
We got to see the big old USS Midway with all the
planes and shit on the deck andall kinds of crazy shit.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Man.
That sounded like fun, yeah,and we walked around.
What did we eat over there?
We went to that coffee shop.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Oh yeah, Pothead.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
Pothead.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Could you smoke, trina?

Speaker 1 (12:00):
It's just like a little outdoor coffee shop.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
There's not an indoor thing, it's not a marijuana.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
No, no, okay, no but you know what's crazy man?
They sold grinders, they soldpapers and they sold coffee.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
Oh, so it's the ultimate troll.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
Yeah, and then they have this little pot, this
little animated coffee pot.
Looked like the Kool-Aid man,okay, but it's a coffee pot.
Looked like the Kool-Aid man,but it's a coffee pot, and it's
what was the place called againPothead, pothead so it's Pothead
.
That's their logo man.
So me and her, we took apicture over on the side of the
building and it said this onehere is a pothead for sure, and

(12:38):
it had an arrow.
It was right over her head.
But we seen people flying kitesout there.
Man, I was like you know what,I ain't fly a kite since I was
like 10 years old probably.
My pops had a kite.
He used to be into kites for alittle while and then I was like
I want to fly a kite.
So we were walking around andthere was a fucking kite store

(13:00):
there, man.
So I walk in and I hit the dudeup and I like, look man, don't
let me buy a bad kite.
You know, I, I want to go outhere and fly right outside your
building, right here.
I want to, I want to fly thekite right here.
So we, uh, he said, hey, lookman, I test all of the, I test
all of them, I test all thekites and they don't get into my
store unless I've tested themand they're, they're decent,
right, so, and so I just boughtone man, and we went outside and

(13:23):
, uh, we had our coffee, we werechilling and no shit, man, we
got that motherfucker flying.
And you know, you're down thereon the coast, man, there's, you
know, coastal air and breeze andeverything else.
So you know, it's a nice littlewindy day.
But man, this kite, we had itso far up in the fucking air,
man, and the little handle, thelittle spool, the cable wraps

(13:45):
around, man, is about the sizeof your fist, about the size of
your hand.
It seemingly took me like 30minutes to pull the kite back
down to the ground.
Man, yeah, one at a time, onecircle yeah because her mom was.
Her mom spilled my coffee orsomething, and then there was
some homeless dude trying totalk to her down there and she

(14:06):
was like we gotta get the fuckout of here.
So I'm sitting here trying towrap this goddamn kite up, and
I'm wrapping it like crazy andit looks like it's the same
height that it was like fiveminutes ago.
I was like, oh man, a hundredwines later, yeah, but that was
a good little trip that was agood little trip, but we gotta
find out when that, that recordsale is yeah, it was once a

(14:29):
month.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
It's usually like on a Sunday.
You know, a little record fair,record fair in LA.
Yeah, we gotta head down there.
All the record vendors cometogether.
They got like guest DJsspinning just out on the street,
just like I guess they justhave a set up there and just
like they got their you know,whoever they invited and they
switch it up all the time.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Yeah, could be at echo, could be at hollywood,
could be anyway, yeah all right,you got to just uh follow.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Follow the the page, all right but yeah it's still
bound.
It's not the junkies page.
No, this is a different, atotal, completely like let's, I
forgot what it's called.
It's like like I forgot whatit's called.
It's like LA Record Fair.
Okay, yeah, it's called LARecord Fair.
I'm sure we can Google it.
We'll find it.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Yeah, yeah, see where it's going to pop up next.
I'm pretty sure it's LA RecordFair.
Yeah, something has to pop upwith it.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
But yeah, once Sunday month, you know I'd be tight if
it land on like a Sunday wherethere was like like the beat
junkies are doing at that,they're doing that Sunday where
they're going to have, you know,at that brewery.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
you know what I mean yeah, down the street.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Them spinning and then the whole record fair.
Everybody come out.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
The after party.
Man, yeah, we dope.
When did you start man?
When did you start DJing?

Speaker 2 (15:44):
2003.
All right, 2003.
What did you start dj?
Uh 2003?
All right 2003.
What'd you start?
On some statins turntables.
All right, I started.
Uh, what was it like graduatingo2?
Took the first semester ofcollege, of o2 off, then didn't
go right away and then went thesecond semester and then got
that financial aid.
Didn't go right away and thenwent the second semester and

(16:06):
then got that financial aidcheck and just pretty much gave
it to dude with the turntables.
There you go, bro, like didn'teven cash it, probably didn't
even look at the bag, handed itright over like let me get those
.
What was the mixer?
It was some, something like Idon't even probably some some
cheap american dj gemini, yeah,gemini.

(16:29):
Like five channel mixer.
Like you know, I just rememberlike just pissing my grandma off
because you know I had, I hadhad some friends who had a set
of turntables already right, andthey were like here, go ahead
and rock them, bro.
They knew that I was thepassionate one out the crew.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Sure, I was like the, you know the one, you were the
one that was going to get themost use out of them.
Yeah, I was the one that wasgoing to go for it, you know.
If anybody was going to make it, yeah, they were like you.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
And I was for real or serious about it.
They were just passing themaround, passing them around, and
for the longest they were, andthe reason why they let me take
them is because for the longestthey were in one of my good
friend's basements, right Right,and I was just down there every
day, like you know, just likerecording freestyles off the
instrumentals from the record tothe tape, you know, and rapping

(17:28):
over them, and they're justlike, bro, you know, just take
them home, bro.
We ain't even using them.
Just you know, just take careof them, and if we need them
back, bro, we'll ask you.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
All right.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
And I took them home and my grandparents were like
uh-uh, they were having it, hellno.
All that ruckus, all that noise.
What the hell's going on withall this shit?
Get that shit out of here.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
I was pretty lucky man.
My pops played the guitars.
A lot of guitars, Banjo guitar,all of them.
He had little PV amps and shit.
Chet Atkins, guitar, gretsch,something like Stratocaster
Expensive shit.
Apparently I didn't knowanything about them.
Fenders, yeah, fenders.
My pops got me into music,right, um, I was.

(18:11):
I had to practice every day.
Wait a minute so you could playthe guitar.
No, I play the saxophone.
Ah, I picked up the saxophoneand I had to practice every day
for an hour.
It was a rule right.
Every day for an hour you gotto practice and I was fucking
terrible and I feel bad forwhoever had to hear.
Every day for an hour.
It was a rule right.
Every day for an hour.
You got to practice and I wasfucking terrible and I feel bad
for whoever had to hear all thathonking and shit.
I was trying to play anythingat the time, man, but I got

(18:33):
really good at it, man.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Word.
That's what's up.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Yeah, it was fun, man .
Then I got a little bored withthe sax, picked up the trumpet.
I wanted to learn how to playanother instrument.
You know I was kind of tappedout with a sax.
I'd already made an honor bandand I performed at the Civic
Auditorium back in the days,fourth chair honor band in Kern
County.
I was decent, right, I pickedup the trumpet.

(18:59):
My boy, daniel he played thetrumpet and Rudy and, oh man,
mike Zepeda.
Man, what's that group here in?

Speaker 2 (19:10):
town.
Mike Zepeda doesn't live on theCentral Coast now, does he?
Oh, I don't know, Does he now?
I don't know, I'm justwondering because I don't hear
too many Mike Zepedas and I'mjust like and you know who that?

Speaker 1 (19:20):
one is, I know, mike Zepeda.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
I'm like I wonder if this is crazy ass Is he a
trumpet player.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
I don't know he OG now he plays.
He's in a band here in town,man.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
Oh, he in town now.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Yeah, I forgot what band it was Like it's a pretty
popular band, I don't know.
Anyways, these motherfuckersalways on trumpets and trumpets

(19:51):
always got the.
I wanted to be the dude.
Yeah, you want to fucking, wewanted to flex, but I was never
really that great at the trumpet, right I ain't.
I wasn't that deep into it.
Like, I was the saxophone sincethird grade, right, my pops had
me on a saxophone at thirdgrade all the way up and through
high school, whoa years andyears and years.
I don't.
But I was talking to her andand I said I want to get one
again.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Just get one.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Because I could play all this shit, man.
Anything I can hear I can play,right, that's what's up.
That'd be fun.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yeah, yeah, we need to get one Sample, some beats
too.
Make some beats, play a sampleRight over the top of it.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
That's where my music knowledge comes from right.
That's where I learned how toread, write, count all that,
other things.
Music theory and I think that'swhy it was, I hate to say, easy
.
It wasn't easy.
Djing is not easy.
Beat matching, transitioning itwasn't easy, but I felt like I
had a head start on a lot ofpeople that didn't know how to

(20:43):
find the one.
Find the one.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah, find the one.
Yeah, you can't find the one.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Yeah, drop it on the one.
Find the one beat match.
You know, like just the.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
You know how many bars are in this a bar phrase
uh-huh, yeah, yeah of course, orin the current, or when's the
when's, the when's the bridge,uh-huh you know how long is it
yeah, the the anatomy of a trackthe anatomy of a song man, man,
structure, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
So that's where I got , and I've only been DJing like
a year and a half, two years.
I'm not very good, right?
I'm decent enough.
I can not sound like shoes inthe dryer.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Right right.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Like offbeat.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
I can get beat every time and your music knowledge is
good enough to rock a party.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
Yeah, and it's so good because, like I said my
father, he had records, man,they listened to shit.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
So you were training the whole time and didn't even
know.
It Didn't even know it.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
Man Didn't even know it.
And you know what, man?
I got out of music senior yearin high school and I hadn't
played ever since and I alwayskind of felt like something was
missing.
Right, I always felt likesomething was missing and I
missed it, man.
I missed music, man, and Imissed you know.
You know dad's gone now.
He's been gone since 05, um,but that's something that he

(21:55):
gave me right.
A lot of times we can look backat our parents and say what
they did wrong or what theyfucked up on, and you know we
can find things right or wecould find the positive.
So I'm always trying to findthe positive, like, like, look,
life wasn't perfect, right, mymy pops, it was a little rough
man, I bet.

(22:16):
My my pops was in the air force, retired.
I was the product of a secondmarriage.
Uh, it was structured man, itwas militant but yeah um, you
know, I'm not never gonnabadmouth my pops, especially
since he's not here anymore.
Man, he motherfucker can't evendefend himself.
Yeah, I could badmouth anybodythat's not sitting here in this

(22:36):
room.
They can't defend themselves,and whoever's listening to this
is gonna be able to be like ohyeah, that motherfucker's a
piece of shit, right, there'salways two sides to every story,
man three, yeah, a b and thetruth, uh-huh.
And perception.
Perception is a motherfuckerman, like people, can perceive
certain things that were notcomplete intention, right?
Um, my perception of thisperson is is that they're lazy,

(22:59):
right, but you don't have anyidea.
Perceptions of djs right.
Perception of ill flow thatmotherfucker doesn't do anything
.
All he does is go to a club,shows up, play some music, some
fucking leaves right, he has theeasiest fucking life in the
world.
That's what everybody thinksabout a dj, right?
But females.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Females think that I got them jumping out, jumping
out the window.
For me, I'm like, I'm the firstand the last person there.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Yeah, there's nobody here.
When I show up, there's nobodyhere when I leave by the time I
get home and unload.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
There's no time for nothing.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
And then record pools , record pools, youtube,
whatever, trying to stay up onmusic, trying to dig through
stuff.
You got vinyl.
You got that portion.
I don't even have vinyl yet,man.
I'm still Serato.
I'm still the new DJ on Serato.
Obviously, I've invested inturntables and I have the.

(23:51):
I want to get to vinyl becauseI want to be well rounded right.
I want to be able to go up tosome tables.
I want to go up to some CDJs.
I want to go up to a fuckinglittle Rev1 controller.
I want to be able to go toeverything and just start
playing, man.
So it's about the love of DJing, man.
It's the love of music, it'sthe love of the art and it's I

(24:15):
love it, man.
I missed it, I missed music.
That's dope, man.
You find your way back to it,yeah, yeah.
Hopefully you never lose it,man.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Yeah, nah, for sure.
Nah, I'm not.
I already told myself I'll rockinto a mold until I pass.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
Uh-huh yeah.
How old do you think you'regoing to be on your last gig,
man?

Speaker 2 (24:33):
I probably I don't know as far as gigging goes, who
knows right but I know like Idon't plan like that hard pretty

(24:55):
much longer.
Yeah.
Yeah, maybe I probably got likea year being left, but that
doesn't mean I'm gonna jump outthere and and, uh, do parties
here and there or like specialguest spots, you know, because
that that part of me, that's thefun part.
that's the fun part, that's thehour or the power hour when,
when you got the whole crowd andyou're like you prepared this
set and you know the crowd andyou're like I'm I'm about to
blow the roof off, those are thefun parties, or big artists and
stuff like that.
Yeah, I just don't want to be aworking DJ.

(25:15):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
You want to enjoy it.
I want to enjoy it For thepassion for the love.
For the love Because after awhile.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
Sometimes the bags won't even be enough.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
It's not enough man, it's not enough.
Man, it's not enough, it's notworth it Nah.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
I'd rather stay at home and practice and play.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
Sometimes I just want to play for myself, exactly,
hey, because as a gig DJ, youdon't get to play for yourself,
you're playing for your audience.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
Absolutely.
I got my boy, dj Edit.
We were just chopping it upyesterday's.
Gonna come spend with me in acouple of weeks and at the
Ratchet Spot, santiago's and he.
I was chopping it up with himand he does a lot of like big

(25:59):
corporate gigs you know what Imean and a lot of private gigs
and a lot of the times thosegigs, you know, are more
professional gigs and we don'tget to rock out like we want to
Sure Play the type of music thatwe would love to.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
And sometimes the little bar gigs, the
compensation isn't enough for usto want to come play.
But when you find that littlebar that allows you to just do
you and you're like I don't careabout the money, I'll go DJ for
free this night, like if I hadto, because, like you know,
you're not tripping on the money, you just want to go jam out
and you know, and fill theenergy and exchange energies

(26:38):
with people with the crowd, youknow, With your authentic self,
with the music that you love,with what you curated for your
crates, for your set, foreverything else, and get to show
out.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
And possibly somebody obviously likely if they're at
a hip hop event they'd be like,oh, I love this motherfucker,
Absolutely this motherfucker.
He had a great selection, greatmixes, great transitions, great
, everything right.
And this is my music, right?
Yeah, I don't know, man, you goto a wedding.
You're probably not going toget to play a whole lot of De La

(27:09):
and Jill Scott or any of thenon-mainstream, the roots, Talib
, whoever it may be.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
But it goes both ways .
Let's say, you're not doingvery many weddings and you're
doing a lot of other gigs thatyou're always doing and you get
tired of those.
But then you go doing a lot ofother gigs you know that you're
always doing and you get tiredof those.
But then you go do a weddingand you get to play disco.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
finally, and you're like.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
I haven't played disco in forever.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
I love the Bee.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
Gees, or you know.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
And you're playing dance and you're like yeah, all
that.
And you're like yeah.
And they're loving it.
You know, you're just like yeah, you know you get that fix in
too, so yeah, man.
Yeah, even like Friday, forinstance, we're going to be at
1933.
I don't know jack about salsa,merengue and cumbia, other than

(28:00):
the fact that I grew up in Arvinand I know all of the music for
the most part.
But these people out there Ihave the most fun in the world.
The day that I met the coupleJust Dance Thursdays me and
Marion met them, stephanie andCarlos they went into 1933.

(28:23):
I was DJing for fucking nobody.
There was nobody there.
I was DJing to an empty place.
I seen something online thatsays you're not really a dj till
you dj the empty place, righttill you buy yourself it sucks.
So they came in, man, she, shecame up to me and she said hey,
could you play some salsa orwhatever, like yeah, hell, yeah,
you're the only people here andI got it, so I'll play it.
I played.
They started dancing likeprofessional man, like swinging

(28:45):
around fast as shit man, likelike craziness, putting on a
show, yeah, serious.
And they were happy, as can beman.
They liked the facility, theyliked everything else.
They're like hey, you think wecould get some people out here
tomorrow?
I was like hell, yeah, there'snobody here right now.
So absolutely, come on, playwhatever the fuck you want me to
play.
I'd rather play salsa for 100people than you know hip hop for

(29:12):
zero.
I want to see people have a goodtime, man, I want to see people
happy.
So, less than 24 hours, man,that group got over like 100
people over there.
Man, salsa, merengue.
And then I'm learning that,right, you don't mix that, they
don't want that mixedcontinually.
Right, they want you to havelike a two second, three, second
, four second pause before thenext song comes on.

(29:33):
So you're not even beatmatching, you're not
transitioning, you're not doinganything.
You press and play and youpress and stop.
You press and play and youpress and stop, and then you're
going through the different.
You know cumbia, salsa,merengue, bachata, all at
different BPMs, right?
So, like merengue, you can'tplay like four merengue songs
back to back to back to back andthe motherfuckers are going to

(29:55):
be exhausted, right?
They're going to be falling offthe dance floor like flies man.
So Carlos man, he does DJingstuff on the side, I think minor
you know, mostly for the justdance and for this genre of
music.
He was like man, you, you wantto play a couple, a couple salsa
, one merengue, three bachataand a cumbia, and then just keep

(30:19):
going through that cycle, right, yeah, and keeping it, and yeah
, no shit, man, dance floor allnight, and and that was easy,
you know, but there was nomixing, there was no
transitioning, there's no,nothing special, man, but a lot
of people having a great time,mature people, no bullshit, no,
no belligerent, drunks peopletrying to fight anything else,

(30:42):
man, just a lot of great people.
Man, it was awesome man yeah,how was your?

Speaker 2 (30:46):
wedding.
It was awesome.
Man.
Um, yeah, nothing, nothingspectacular, bro, just another
wedding.
Uh, it was all spanish, was it?
As a matter of fact, it was, uh, literally just what you're
doing.
Okay, yeah, it was like, allright, you know, uh, they wanted
, uh, they it was.
It was actually a quinceanera oh, all right, it wasn't a wedding

(31:09):
, wasn't wedding it was aquinceanera, a young lady turned
15 and, um, parents, parents,uh, she had some really loving
parents, they cared, so theythrew her a big bash yeah, it
went all out for her.
And um, the music they sentover was, uh, banda, and it was
a trip for me because they werereferencing Banda, the type of

(31:35):
music that they presented me.
They're referencing it as if itwas cumbias, but it was Banda.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
It was.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Banda for sure, but it was their type of Banda.
Cumbias I don't know it wasdifferent, bro, but to me it was
their type of banda.
Cumbias I don't know it wasdifferent, bro, but to me it was
banda.
So I got to playing some bandasand zapateos, I got busy on
some merengue, cumbias and alittle bit oh rock and espanol.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
Yeah, spanish rock yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
Rock and espanol.
We got a big playlist, playlistthat they gave me Of all that
and I just, you know, went totown on it.
I have I have most of italready, but it was cool.
I like when I I get a, a clientwho's like Really serious About
their music and and and they're, and, they're like Give me in
there and they're like give mewhat they want, because I

(32:27):
learned, you know, I'll learnintroduced to new absolutely, or
you get reintroduced, you knowlike to some stuff that you
forgot about or you haven'tplayed.
Or you know, like I rememberfirst, like I didn't hear a
sweet caroline, oh man, until Idid a wedding, you know, and I
was like whoa, I didn't, Ididn't realize how big of a song

(32:50):
this was.
I would have never played it.
Oh, they sing along they lovethat song man, they love that
song and um, yeah, so you know,uh, I would say that weddings,
weddings, uh have taught me alot like we're uh dj'ing on the
central coast, taught me a lotlike brought in my my horizon
when it comes to music, as faras genres and music selection.

(33:12):
You know, like, you know, theshots out to the Central Coast,
you know, my boy, dj Crown, myboy Tim, yeah, they, you know,
they brought in my horizon a lot.
They saw the potential in me,you know, and it was like, yeah,
this guy got it and then threwme in, you know, threw me in the
water and sink or swim.

(33:35):
And when you got someone'simportant, like when you're
serious, you never want to messup somebody's important
celebration bro.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Oh no, that's a lot of pressure man.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
It's pressure.
So once you get through acouple of those and you're like
I, kind of got this.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
I'm all right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Like you know, for sure, so yeah man.
So let me ask you something,and this is going to be real
kind of judgmental.
I don't know.
Judgmental is not the rightword, but Central Coast, I would
assume reggae.
Is there reggae out there?

Speaker 2 (34:08):
There's definitely, definitely a lot of reggae on
the Central Coast, but as far aswhen it comes to doing DJing,
weddings and stuff, I don't getvery much of the reggae stuff.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
How much do you get to Bay Area?
How much do you get to Bay Arearap?

Speaker 2 (34:21):
Mac.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
Dre E-40, too Short Central Coast weddings.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
Yeah, a lot.
Yeah, you'll catch that a lot.
All right, yeah, man, weddings,yeah, a lot.
All right, yeah, you'll catchthat a lot.
All right, yeah, I mean, I'mnot man, maybe the way, uh, this
make my last wedding.
My, yeah, yeah, y'all you know.
And then when you start gettingthose requests and and those
songs are in the exact same pbb,bpm, you're in.
You're like wait a minute, likewho's this guy?
dj or or, like you know, send achick over and the chick gives
you a song in the exact bpm,like wait a minute.

(34:45):
Like you follow where she goesover, and the chick gives you a
song in the exact BPM, like waita minute.
Like you follow where she goesback to, and like you see, bingo
, like yo that's the DJboyfriend.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
I know it, you know this motherfucker knows too much
right, and you keep sendingthese gems over.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
You're like, alright, I got you, you keep playing
them.
And then you drift into adifferent area of music.
And then he wasn't expecting itand you got him, and he gets up
and he dances.
You're like I got you, bro.
And then he comes and gives youyour props at the end of the
night.
And at that point is when Iknew that I had these Bay Area
people, because you know, like Ihad a bunch of people asking

(35:22):
for Mac Drain, a bunch of Bayand E-40, 40 and you know, too
short, and you know I got tojamming it and I held.
You know, sometimes I'll do iton purpose, like when I see that
when I'm rocking out and peopleare like jamming me, jamming me
up for the same song, oh, I'llstarve you a little bit more
just so that I can find theright time to give it to you,

(35:43):
because I know when I drop thisyou guys are about to go crazy.
So let's not just drop it,let's build up to it.
Let's make it proper so when itcomes, you guys are like, yeah,
and I did that and I could tellI had a room full of Bay Area
people and they came and gave mesome love at the end.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
That was cool, that's awesome man.
Yeah, you know, you have them.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
You know you have them at certain points.
What's your favorite moment asa dj?
Sheesh, uh, I guess, um, I, Iwould.
I would just say, like you know, it would be between the art of
discovery, music, and and and,um, you know, and and performing
it all.
The performing part.
It's like a high that you keepchasing.
You know what I mean.

(36:33):
It never goes away and you justlike the bigger gig, the bigger
crowd, the more energy, likerunning back.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
It's addicting.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
And then there's the aspect of finding the music that
you love.
I'm sure we all have momentswhere you can remember when you
first heard a so-and-so song oryou know?
or radio moments when somethinghappened and you know and
everything's just stopped.
You paused everything, you satdown and you're just like what

(37:04):
is that?
Or you listened, you know.
So, yeah, you know, I haveradio moments of like when Dr
Dre and Jermaine Dupri werebattling and Power 106, I was in
LA and Power 106 was playing itback and forth like the whole
hour, Like that's all you heard.
With those two songs Is that?

Speaker 1 (37:21):
what's going on with Kendrick right?

Speaker 2 (37:22):
now, yeah, well, kendrick, yeah, kendrick,
kendrick, and the Not Like Ussong is getting blared crazy in
LA.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
Crazy Spotify just said he's the number one
streamed of all time now.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
No, album no nothing.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Out.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Just going at Drake's head yeah, stuff like that, man
.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
So how do you deal with the ebbs and flows, man?
So, for instance, let's saythat last Keemstar you did
fucking amazing, right, likejust top of the world.
And next week you do a weddingand it's like like the, the, the
vibe wasn't there, the energywasn't there, it wasn't a
dancing crowd, whatever it maybe, and then you have that low

(38:04):
again.
So when it happens to me, Istart questioning myself.
Sometimes I'm like, oh shit,maybe I don't got it.
But you know, the last weddingI did I was, I was on right, I
had people throwing people inthe fucking air man, like it was
cool, it was a fucking part.
And it was a dry wedding, whichmade it a little bit more
difficult, right, because thesemotherfuckers aren't drinking

(38:25):
they ain't getting loose, right,right, and I had to be careful
with clean versions, man.
Oh, they were super on it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I rockedit right, uh-huh.
But then some other times, man,it's like it's not there.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
Man, it just isn't there yeah, no, I hear what
you're saying.
I think.
I think I've gone through thatrecently too.
We're, like you know, in thebeginning, like um, you know I
was at a fresh new spot and youknow you I it's my first time
there, so you want to make surethat you do a great job so you
can get invited back.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
You know what I mean.
So, like in the beginning, youstart, you know, second guessing
yourself, like, but there's,and realize that you're there
for a reason.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
Do you ever go back through your Serato history for
a set from the previous day,from the previous night, and
look over?
I don't ever look at my history, but I see some people do.
Some DJs will go back through.
They'll look at their history.
They'll look out If it was agreat set.
Some of them will just copy itover into a crate Me.

(39:41):
I don't want people to be ableto anticipate what.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
I'm playing.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
I've been to three of Gordon's shows and he plays the
same shit, same routine, sameroutine, every single time.
So I don't even mess with thehistory.
I try to obviously, read thecrowd, crowd, read the floor,
read the energy.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Uh, do all of that, but I want it fresh every time,
man, yeah yeah, yeah, I mean, uh, yeah, for sure, I, I agree
with you, but, um, I guess it's.
But it's also cool to like toto stack your routines and and
have your premeditated stuffready, because you're always
going to be, um, I feel like youknow, yeah, for sure you stay

(40:19):
in Bakersfield and you gigaround here, but let's say, you
go to Arizona or something youknow and you've been working for
five years and all thoseroutines have built up and now,
like when you got those, onceyou like matured to that, you
have like a freaking, you gotplaylists filled of routines
that you could just jump in andout of.
And like when you go to a newcrowd, they're like who the fuck

(40:43):
is this?

Speaker 1 (40:45):
Who the guy?

Speaker 2 (40:45):
is this.
This guy is the greatest.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
It's fresh Shit they haven't heard before.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
But at the same time yeah, I get it you don't want to
be stale.
You know, if you got aresidency, you always want to
make sure that your crates arefresh.
For sure.
So, or at least try to play it adifferent way, you know, or you
know different style, or youknow present a song a different
way.
But yeah, yeah, no, yeah, Ialways try to like, like.

(41:12):
Every time I feel like most ofmy parties are about four hours
long.
If it's just me, it's usuallyabout four hours.
So I'll break it down into fourhours each hour, I'll break it
down to an opening hour and thenyou know I got my peak hour.
You know where I'm holding allthe hits on all the bangers.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
All the fire, all the bangers, yeah, waiting, you
know waiting for them to catchtheir energy.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
And then you know paying attention.
And then you know payingattention and then just having
enough, making sure that I haveenough uh music for each hour,
to where I feel comfortable, towhere, like you know, I know
that I have those set four hours, but I could also wander off if
I need to grab something yeah,if I need to someone asked me
for some or if I start feeling adifferent vibe, you know so you
know, you're gonna start outslow yeah are you gonna start
out with the Sometimes like?

(41:57):
this quinceañera I did last time, like you know, like I think
there was like amiscommunication between the
husband and the wife.
Right, and we're all on the samechat, text message, same group
chat, yeah, right.
So like they send me all theirmusic.
And then last minute wifey islike hey, um, is it too late to

(42:22):
send some more?
Like no, it's fine, she sendsover rock and espanol.
Okay, right, and a lot of therock and espanol that she sent
me was slow, oh, and I was like,ah, you know, so when they send
me all their stuff, I take theslow stuff that they got and
I'll try to jam that into likecocktail hour sprinkle it in
there, you know, to get it outthe way.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
Yeah, get it out the way that you played it.
It out the way.
Know that you played it, knowthat I played it.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
It's there because I know that later on in the
evening it ain't going to go toowell, yeah Right, so I'll just
chill on that, but I try to getthat off.
So as I was early on trying toget that off, you know the
husband going to come up to meand tell me and you know it's
not the time to sit there anddebate with him and explain

(42:57):
myself.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
His wife actually asked for it.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
Yeah, you know, so I'm just like no problem.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
And just I caught it.
You know I understand.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
The music's too slow is what he's trying to tell me.
He's just not communicating itright.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
Yeah, he wants to bring the vibes up.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
So I had to be able to read that you know what I
mean and not get defensive andnot be like, well, your wife,
yes, sir, no problem, it'scoming right up.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
So how about with weddings, man, and you get to
the actual dancing portion 7o'clock, 8 o'clock, whatever
time it is?
You get to the dancing portion,man, and obviously BPM.
Everybody does BPM you and Iand some other people.
We do key as well, right, Idon't do key to the extent that
you do, though, right, you dothe pitch and yeah, I pitch

(43:41):
between them.
Yeah, the pitch and play, orwhatever it is with Serato, you
do the pitch and you do it live.
As the transition is happening.
You're hitting up, pitching up,pitching down to get to that
other track for that blend.
Right Me, I just cue up anothertrack, same key, similar bpm,
similar key, close enough on thecamelot wheel, like if I'm on a

(44:02):
3a, okay, then I'll go to a 4bor whatever.
It may be right to try to staywithin something.
Right.
You have a whole differentmethod that you use when you
actually start messing with thepitch yeah, I just uh, it's just
, it's just pretty much.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
Uh, it's just, uh, it's pretty much.
Sync instead of syncing bpm,it's the same key yeah, it's the
same feature, uh, like when yousing, uh, pitching time has a
sync feature where you hit thebutton and it's, and it'll sync
whatever.
Uh, it'll sync to whatever keythat the current track is

(44:37):
playing.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
Oh really.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
Yeah, so once it syncs to that key, it'll show me
on the computer the one thatswitched keys.
It'll show me how many timesit's moved up.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
Yeah, One, two, three .
How many keys, right yeah?
So if I see that it's moved uptwo, as I'm doing my A-bar blend
, you know, maybe halfwaythrough the a bar at the four
bar blend I'll pitch it one, one, yeah, and then, like, when it
get closer to the end, to the7.9, go it out right, right,
where right, when it's about tojet bang, hit the button.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
Like you can't even tell I switched it, yeah yeah,
yeah, how about um energy?

Speaker 1 (45:11):
you pay attention to the track energy.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
Nah, all right you know, I've never, I've never.
Well, yeah, I pay attention to.
I think I would say that I doit manually, like for myself,
like what I know yeah, mentallyin my head, like I know it.
That's a slow song, it ain'tgonna you know, I'm not gonna
jump with that one.
I was playing the other nightand you know it was cracking
right.
I'm probably at 105, 103, 102.

(45:34):
You know, I got them bopping.
It's a good, yeah, right.
And the owner of the bar comes.
I'm probably at 105, 103, 102.
I got them bopping, it's a good, yeah, right.
And the owner of the bar comesup to me with these chicks,
right, and he's like yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah, and he just pretty
much dumps them off.
Yeah, these guys want to go ona song.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
I'm like, oh yeah, what song do you want here you?

Speaker 2 (45:51):
go and just dumps them off on me and then dips
some off on me and it dips and Igotta play the song now because
the owner is the bar owner.
The bar owner just dropped themoff.
I mean I'm like what you wantto hear?
Like lil wayne lollipop.
I'm like, oh you know, becauseI'm way up here in a different
place 77, I'm just like yo,that's going.
I was like I'm gonna do it, I'mjust gonna do it, you know.

(46:13):
And I just reverbed out anddropped it and it's like forget
what I know and what I want.
The bar owner wants us toplease his customer.
She wants to hear this, the songLil Wayne's a goat.
It's not a bad song.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
It's a well-known song, just the wrong time.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
Wrong time and I'm a pro dj, but I don't know
everything.
No, you know what I mean.
Like I can't predict everything, so why not, let's try it.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
You know, hey, you see where it takes us you see
what man I played that joint.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
It rang off everybody .
I didn't like it when it cameout.
I remember it was popping whenthat song came out To me.
It was slow I always liked that.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
Six foot seven foot.
That was dope, mrs Officer.
Mrs Officer, yeah, you knowwhat it's nice I got Marion over
here.
She goes to all the gigs withme.
We do everything together.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
She's my filter.
Yeah, you got a female.
You got a female perspective,you know because, because you
know, like, uh, you know that'sa thing, man, because you know
you, you could get lost intrying to be creative and
playing for yourself and not noteven looking up at the crowd,
you know like oh, sometimes Icatch myself like I'm having too
much fun.
I'm all like, wait a minute.
What if they're not liking?

Speaker 1 (47:41):
what you got going on .
Yeah, what if they've all satdown Having fun?
I'm just over here vibingHaving fun.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
Bopping your head.
You look up and they're staringat you.
Had this thing.
Like man, we gotta play for theladies.
Man, it's like you know.
You play 80, you know, for theladies, sprinkle 10 for yourself
and then 10 for what else?
What else you can go, you know,I mean wherever else you can go
.
So as long as you can get them,them ladies, on the dance floor

(48:07):
and they loving it, you knowwho cares about the rest.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
Hey, this last, this last wedding on saturday, I
played mac miller man, did you?
I squeezed him in there, man.
I was like this is for me.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
Yeah, I deserve it.
Hey, there's times where I'llbe like one for you, one for me
yeah, one for you, one for meyeah, not for sure.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
How do you go about the roller coaster man?
So like, say, you're at 100 BPM, you're at 105 BPM.
So like, say, you're at 100 BPM, you're at 105 BPM.
How long do you stay therebefore you drop off and go to
something a little bit slower oreven faster, right Even at 130
or 140, something crazy, right,like, do you, will you go one,

(48:49):
101, 105, 98, and then jump wayoff in one direction or the
other?

Speaker 2 (48:56):
Yeah for sure I've done that.
I do that a lot.
I'll jump, man.
I could jump all over, bro, andI like to too, especially when
we're DJing with other homies,like when it's like a jam
session, like when you gettogether four or five DJs and
everybody's taking turns.
I'm paying attention to whereeveryone's at and if you're like
at 105 and I could tell thecrowd, you know, is some hip hop

(49:19):
, you know, and they want they,you know they like the bop.
So I know I can go down to 70and 80s and you know, and a lot
of the times you know, I don'tlike to be down there.
But if you guys ain't going togo down there, someone's got to
go there.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
You know, somebody has to bring in some of the
other stuff.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
Yeah, we got to lie.
So I'll just try to bedifferent and take it to where
no one else is going.
I just pay attention to whatother homies are playing and if
they're stuck in the 105s orthey're trying to do some 120s,
125s and super energy, then I'lltake them all the way down and

(49:55):
I'll pick something.
Reset yeah, I'll reset it, butwhen I reset it'm yeah, I'll
bring it back up, but when Ireset it I'm playing something
that you know that is down there, but it's still like oh you
know, you know, and and it'll besomething that I could just
echo out and drop from the topand instantly they know it right
on the one, right on the one,no eight bar, no eight bar, just

(50:16):
bam, let's go and they're likeyou know, for sure, I do a lot
of those man, nice man yeah, forsure.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
What do you got?

Speaker 2 (50:24):
you're over there, quiet as fuck you ain't say shit
, you ain't contribute to thispodcast, soaking it in.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
You gotta get a little closer to that thing,
girl.
You're not even trying at thispoint, I'm just listening, baby,
yeah, so she's gonna go downthere with me.
Uh, you know she's dj'd with me, uh, mostly on the sr2 or the
rev one she be dropping mixes.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
Uh, she knows hey she can blend right she can
transition.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
She's probably right where I'm at, roughly right.
And then now we want to go, wewant to go down to beat junkies
and learn more and keepprogressing.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
Come on man.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
And do this kind of shit with people like you.
Dose was here last week, youwere here the first week, you
know, and just chill, man.
I put something online theother day.
It's not about the money, right, it's about the passion.
It's about the passion, it'sthe fact that I love music.
Money is a byproduct, right?
If I love what I'm doing and Ilove music and I'm good at it

(51:23):
it'll come you're gonna makemoney for sure.
right, like, and I think, uh, aone.
The dj community and I don'tknow if it's just a bakersfield
thing or a Kern County thing isreal catty man, real immature,
real like possessive orsomething Like there's a

(51:44):
gatekeeper DJ in Bakersfieldthat you have to go through Like
, nah, I don't got to doanything like that, right Nah.
But then you know, you comeacross cool people, good people.
You Dose where we're justtalking.
You Dose where we're justtalking and chilling.
We got love for the musichanging out, talking about the
music, talking about the culture, talking, shit doing whatever.

(52:05):
That's what it is for me, man,yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
Yeah, man, sharing music, sharing ideas,
collaborating, making peopledance, having a good time,
positive energy, for sure, man.
When it comes to the DJs inevery community, I would think,
man, it's a lot of narcissism.
Yeah.
Yeah, and it's because they'restuck in the room by themselves

(52:30):
and while they're in there,they're fantasizing and they're
dreaming about what they'regoing to do when they step out
on these turntables and how thepeople are going to react.
They're envisioning, they'remanifesting, trying to figure
out their sets, you know, I mean, and their superstar
performance, so their showcase.
You know what I'm saying, butyou know, um, and then the eagle
comes with that, you know, Imean.

(52:51):
You know you can get reallyreally good or get some, some
sonority, you know, and that'llgas you up, you know.
Make your head, you know, superbig.
You can't even walk through thedoor.
You know what I mean Feelingyourself for real, you know.
And then something has tohappen to where it'll humble you
and you realize you ain't shit,you're really not.
You know, we're just playingmusic.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
So you're more you, we're serviced.
You could be an artist, youknow.
If you want to be an artistWith this DJ thing, you know,
upload your shit and share itwith everybody yeah, you know.
And show people your creativityand your artistry.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
But when you're steppingoutside and you're getting paid
to play, you know what I meanthey're not they're purchasing
your services.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
They're not they're purchasingyour services.
Yeah, you know.

(53:37):
And you gotta go.
You gotta know the difference.
And sometimes, you know, whenyou get booked a lot For your
services, you know that can makeyou feel A type of way.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
And you know, you can feel, you can feel Really
refilling yourself.
Or or when you're not, you'renot getting booked you might
think, you might second guessyourself and think you're not
worthy enough.
You might be thinking, damn,maybe I need a shark.
What am I not doing, right, man?
It's a psychological mindset,man, that you got to really,
really, really tighten down andjust know that, hey, this music

(54:11):
thing is for everybody and it'sfor sharing and it's not just
about you.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
Oh man.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
It's not just about you, and you might get to the
point where you're super niceand then they book you and take
you on tour and that's theillest.
That'd be great.
That'd be the illest right, andthen you could like, maybe put
some gas on your ego.
But when we're local and we're,you know, I don't know.
I think it's just nice to behumble and just treat everybody,

(54:38):
you know, with good intentions,good energy, yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
Like that's what I like.
You know your take on beatjunkies and stuff.
You know you say you go downthere and you got dudes, that
A-track and everybody else thatare just celebrity status off
the fucking charts.
Right, then you have me.
Right, then you're in themiddle somewhere and you know
there are all of these people atdifferent levels, but it sounds
like everybody down there iscool as fuck man.

(55:05):
Like everybody's down therewith for one thing, one thing
only, and it's for the love ofof turntables, for the love of
vinyl, for the love of music,for the love of the art, for the
love of hip-hop, for all theway.
Going back to what we weretalking about earlier, you know
uh, biz and and everybody elseat the beginning of hip hop.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
It's cool too, man, because when you go down there
as you're learning on theturntables, they're giving you
history lessons, they're tellingyou where this scratch came
from, they're breaking it down,and it's super awesome Because a
lot of the guys that you'relike Yo big DJs, they're like

(55:51):
the B?
B junkies, homies, like theypop in and out and it's just
like, yeah, like you don'trealize, you know, because
there's such like on a, on aregular base level with you, you
know, yeah, you don't, youforget that these guys are
legends, uh-huh, you know,because you, you start
developing rapport with them andyou become cool and they're
your sensei, you see them a lot,so you're not as nervous as you

(56:13):
probably were the first timeyou met them and then they're
bringing around these big djsand you're like whoa, sometimes
you forget, but it's, yeah, it'ssuper cool, man, everybody,
it's a community orientated youknow it's funny.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
Everybody shows love.
I'll end up.
You know, me and mary Marion,we're gonna go down there.
We'll end up down there and Iwon't know who any of these
motherfuckers Are.
Anyways, right Like I'mignorant to it, I do not know
who Mr Chalk is.
I don't know who All thesepeople are.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
You're from Arvin?
Yeah, you've never.
You never like Came across.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
He probably than you yeah, was that motherfucker from
arvin what really him?
I think him and c-minus fromarvin, really yeah, oh wow, yeah
, that's my neighborhood, then,man yeah, I'm good.
I think I could be wrong, butI'm pretty sure, yeah, yeah so,
like I said, I don't, I wouldn'teven know who h is if I didn't

(57:07):
fucking watch youtube, right soI would go down there, oblivious
and ignorant, to it all I'lltell you.
I'd be down there trying topractice and I might have a
world-class DJ sitting next tome, and you won't even know it
and I wouldn't know.
I'll tell you.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
Hey, I'll be trying to chop it up with him.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
Hey man, how long you been DJing man?
I won't know anything about him.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, a little fanhere.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
A couple months.
Oh, I'm kind of nice, you know,yeah, yep, yeah, no, me too,
like I wasn't ever like a bigsuper fan of those guys, like I
understood who they were and Irespected their contribution to
the game, sure, so, like youknow, to the game.
So I never was really reallysuper.
My cousin, though he probablywould have fanned out, fanned

(57:52):
him on it?
Yeah, because he was actuallycopying those CDs and, like yo,
he was on it.
You know what I mean?
I wasn't on them like that, butI understood who they were and
how important they were and howdope they were.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's cool.
Yeah, you'll love it, you guyswill love it.
Out there, man, it's a lot offan love, a lot of community, a

(58:17):
lot of gatherings and coolpeople.
Man, and just learning andobtaining the knowledge.
Yeah, you guys are going tolove it.
Man, I graduated, see, I'mstill not trying to leave, I'm
still pulling up.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
Like what else y'all got going.
But you know that's a testamentto you, right?
That's a testament to nothaving ego right, not being all
huge headed and knowing thatthere's still more that you can
learn and there's still thingsthat you can hone in on and
sharpen and get crisper andcleaner and search for that

(58:52):
perfection that none of us willever reach, but get as close as
possible.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
Absolutely yeah, because practice don't make
perfect, it makes progress.
Yeah, sure.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
Yeah, all right.
Well, we'll go ahead and killthe podcast.
We had Ilflow on tonight.
Yes, sir, appreciate you comingand hanging out with us.
Man.
No doubt queen b over here,quiet as hell, not involved.
She'll get a little bit moreinvolved once we get her down to
beat john there you go.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
I'm gonna make her do a gig somewhere she's gonna be
like put her on the spot how youdoing on your chirps.
I suck on my right hand, but myleft hand pretty good.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
How's the flares and the transformers?

Speaker 2 (59:30):
and everything going.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
Hey, before we kill it, then, man, how nice are you
on the right versus the left?

Speaker 2 (59:38):
Oh, shoot my left, your left, I'm a left, I kill it
on my cuts on my left, butpeople who don't know any
different would swear likeyou're nice on your right.
But like nah, yeah, nah, nah,I'm like you think I'm nice.
But like when I start gettinginto like I can do basic stuff
on my right and it looks supercool, but like when we start

(01:00:01):
getting like complicated stuff,like I'm like, yeah, I got to go
practice, sit down somewhereand hone that right side.
You go retarded a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
Yeah, I ask everybody .

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
I don't know if we can use that word.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
Hey, it's our podcast .
We say whatever the fuck wewant to say.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
There you go, but you know what I mean.
Like you go, uh no, everybodyis handicapped on one side.
You'll see watch, Because Inthe beginning they make you work
both hands.
Sure, they make you work.
You're like, all right, switch,you got to go to this side.
But you'll realize that there'sone side.

(01:00:39):
That's a little stronger thanthe other, and it's because, if
you're right-handed, your righthand works good on the fader and
your left hand is cool on therecord, but when you switch,
like that left side on thisfader is like ah, you know, and
my cousin man, he's getting bothof them.
Oh, does he?
Yeah, he's, but he's likeputting in the work.
You know what I mean.
He's actively focused on that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
He's nice on his right but he's trying to get
that left hand and the left handis pretty up there, like I'm
like, bro, you're already there,you're good man, I'm trying to
god tell you he knows where he'sat.
You know what I mean?
Exactly, yeah, and alwayschasing, exactly, always chasing
, always trying to get better,always trying to hone in,
perfect, get better, absolutely,I always.

(01:01:22):
I always equate it to uh, it'sthat little thing that they have
you do, pat your head and rubyour belly, and if you can do
this, if you can do them at thesame time, you'll probably be
okay, mr chalk uses that analogy.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
He was like look, it's like pat your head, he says
it and everything, he does thewhole thing yeah yeah, for sure,
yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
And then I heard man, if you really want to get nice
on your off side, every otherday you do everything with that
left side.
So when your ass wakes up inthe morning, you brush your
teeth with your left.
Oh snap, I didn't know that.
When you put your shoes on,Left first.
Yeah, yeah.
And then you just do everythingthat you would normally do with

(01:02:05):
your right, you do with youropposite, or vice versa right,
that you would normally do withyour right, you do with your
opposite or vice versa right,and I heard, if you do that
every other day for a while.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
Yeah, you're going to get there.

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
It makes that connection oh.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
I got to get there.
That's got to be the next thing, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
That's got to be it, all right, y'all, we'll catch
you next Wednesday.
Peace, peace.