Unraveling DJ Stereotypes & Building a Successful Career

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Speaker 2 (00:11):
all right, y'all most dope.
Next episode we got ill flowhere joining us again.
Yeah, thanks, grandma.
Thanks for coming out.
My, my brother.
No doubt we got Queen B overhere.
Hello, marion.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Hello.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Marion.
You can't say Marion and youcan't even call her Marion.
I have to call her babe.
You start calling people byname and that's like a I hear
you.
It's like when your mom getsyou in trouble and she includes
your middle name, gordon LeeBaldridge.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Call you the whole thing, yeah, yeah, your whole
government ID man First, middleand last.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
It's because it's about to be on your death
certificate.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
That's right.
He knows not to call me Mariana.
She hates it.
I hate it.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
It's like you're in trouble when we're fighting or
something.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Like Marion.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
And then automatically either the
confusion of the hurt or theanger starts coming out like how
dare you?
All right, so I think we're onepisode four, season one,
episode four, that's right.
Made some adjustments to theroadcaster, all the different

(01:20):
educational settings that I hadto go in and change like gate
and attack, and try to get themlevels right yeah, yeah.
And then I got the magicmastering.
So when I do upload it, it itadds an extra layer.
They call it an instagramfilter for audio, and that's
what this buzzsprout additionallayer does is it cleans it up.
Supposed to make everythinggood.

(01:41):
We'll find out when we uploadthis thing tonight.
That's right, all right.
We got a sensitive topic todayfor a lot of people, I suppose,
or a lot of insecure littlelittle little little people
questionable energy people.
Why are djs such insecure divas?
So have we ever wondered whydjs have a reputation for being

(02:05):
insecure divas?
I definitely have.
I mean, I've only been in thegame for a year and a half and I
already have.
I'm like hey, what's yourproblem, dude?
yeah it's like hey, if I'm athreat to you at a year and a
half in, I don't think I'm theproblem man.
You might have to get a littlebetter.
Yeah, you might have to up, getup your game or something, I

(02:26):
don't you know.
And I'm not.
I'm not ill flow, I'm not dose,I'm not fucking og redeem, I'm
not any of these people, right,I'm coming up under all of these
people.
So, uh, yeah, I don't get it.
Um, we'll dive into it though.
So what fuels insecurities with, with DJs?

(02:47):
What do you think?

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Not being in the gym.
Yeah, yeah, if you go like youknow it's, it's I think it's the
equivalent to it's a lot ofthings, man, but one of them
would be not being in the gym,like if you ain't in the gym you
know what I mean and then gym,you know what I mean, and then
you go pull up to the pool partyyou're gonna be insecure about
taking your shirt off?

Speaker 2 (03:09):
yeah, for sure, yeah, yeah, you know, man, you
haven't been minding your p'sand q's, your diet, putting in
work, watching everything.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
Yeah yeah, you're gonna be a little, you know, and
then when you see someone elsetake their shirt off, then you
might be a little jealous youknow, what I mean.
There's that, you know, andthen and then, and then, and
then.
There's people that there's,there's people that are that are
actually working and relying onthis bread to, to survive.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
I'm glad you brought that up because I've been
thinking about that a lot and Iwas like, ok, we're not all the
same.
I don't know ill flow's life.
People don't know my shoes, mylife, I don't know johnny and
marcy's, linus, roberts, youknow, anybody else's I have no
idea, absolutely.
So a lot of the times, you know, I see these posts by you know

(03:56):
several people.
I won't call anybody out byname, but I see these posts
about uh, we all gotta sticktogether, got to all charge the
same, we got to do all of thisthing and it's like well, you
know what, for me and I'll leteverybody into my life For me I
do this because I enjoy it,right, it's a hobby, it's a
passion, it's a love for music.

(04:17):
I don't do it as my sole income, right, it's not my sole income
.
So I can't expect the next guyto do what I do.
I can't expect the next guy tocharge 2500 for a wedding.
If he charges 1200 a I don'tknow what bills that dude has.
He's trying to support hisfamily.
I have no idea.
That's none of my business.
Um, and the other thing is isyou know, you, you see these

(04:42):
posts and and people will belike you know, again complaining
about other peoplequote-unquote, undercutting or
taking too low, or you know, Ithink I don't know what.
The average is like 250, 350 fora club night or something.
I don't know what people arecharging right now.
Right, that's another thing.
I don't ask, I don't care howmuch you make my guy, I don't.

(05:02):
I don't care.
If you make 500 for a night a,I'm with you, man.
Right, if you make 200 for anight, I'm also with you,
whatever you have to do to takecare of yourself and your family
and everything else you know.
And then, if you're worriedabout the 200 dj, quote, unquote

(05:23):
, taking your gig, then at somepoint I feel like we have to
look ourselves in the mirror andask ourselves, okay, what
exactly has gone into thisdecision?
Right, is the club just cheapas hell?
Right, trying to change, tryingto save money, not trying to
commit to the, the quote unquote, better DJ or whatever it may
be?
Um, a lot of factors go in?

Speaker 3 (05:45):
Absolutely.
There's a lot of factors thatgo in.
You know I base my pricing offsupply and demand.
You know, if I'm in demand andI got two months booked out, my
price might change a little bit.
Sure, yeah, because I'm twomonths booked out and you know

(06:05):
people are still banging my lineso I could probably charge a
little bit.
Sure, yeah, because I'm twomonths booked out and um you,
know people are still banging myline, so I could probably
charge a little more.
Yeah, um, I try not to burnmyself out when it comes to the
gigs.
You don't want to be out thereevery weekend.
I don't want to be out thereevery weekend no I don't want to
take every gig either.
Not every gig ain't for me, no,so there's a lot of things that
go into it.
Um, I I'm I'm not solely basingmy income off of just the DJing

(06:26):
, so I don't rely on it so I canturn gigs away.
You know what I mean.
I don't want to do Quintinietasevery weekend.
And I especially don't want todo the low-balling ones that
want to keep me there eighthours.
I don't even like going overfour hours.
To be honest, it's tiring man.
Yeah, Not for just me.

(06:47):
I would rather take no moneyand jam out with like four
homies and us just play musicthat we like and have fun and
knock it out bingo.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
I feel like when you get to four hours, five hours,
six hours and this is just mepersonally and I have a, I have
a pretty good music library, butI feel like I start running out
of music man, like I'm runningout of ideas, like I don't got
enough for this particular crowd.
Like five hours in, am I gonna?
Am I gonna play a song for asecond time, like it'll

(07:14):
definitely happen.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
Yeah, yeah, as time goes on, and like, as long as
you keep your library, you knowI mean growing, it keeps growing
and growing you'll be like fivehours is nothing.
You run through five hours.
Yeah, you can go anywhere andyou'll be you.
So you start surprisingyourself whenever you get to
that point, because you're like,oh dang, I just ran through

(07:37):
that whole thing, no problem.
And you're digging deep andit's just because the time has
passed by.
Where you have, you know,because it's like writing a song
, each folder that you puttogether, like if it's a certain
type, that's a song.
Like you writ that song, youput like 20 songs in there, you
know that this is a certainpocket, and then, bam, you store
that thing and then now it'sthere forever.
Yeah, and like you keep storingthem and storing them and you

(08:00):
keep DJing every weekend.
It and you keep DJing everyweekend.
It's like compound interest.
So when you step out, sheesh,you go any pocket.
And people are like who is?

Speaker 2 (08:10):
this guy.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
Because you know you're seasoned and you spend
some time on it and your libraryhas grown and that's when it's
like you become to this maturestage where you can go into any
pocket and rock any crowd andit's fun.
Yeah, it gets super fun whenyou get to that.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Yeah, Open format, true open format.
For sure, for sure, for sure.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
Being able to jump from like Latin and then go into
rock and then jump back toreggaeton and they want some
country or they want some funkand you and you're up to date
and you're current on all theclassics and the new stuff
hitting some disco hitting someoldies yeah if you could jump
around like that man and justkeep a party cracking bro like

(08:56):
you're golden.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
You know, and I was watching I think it was one of
the road podcasts, man.
I was watching it and they weretalking about um hating.
Do weddings, man, like?
Weddings are the most difficultthing because you have all the
age ranges, right From fiveyears old to 80 years old, 90
years old.
You have all the differentpossible music genres that they

(09:18):
went through.
You know the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, everything else, and it's very
, very difficult to keepeveryone's attention or keep
everyone entertained, whichcomes into the whole open format
thing and bouncing betweencountry salsa, rock, merengue,
pop, hip hop, rap and justkeeping that all over the place

(09:40):
to try to keep everybody happy.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
You know, in the beginning, when it comes to
doing weddings, bro, like Iremember I was, I felt the same
way.
I was frustrated, like it's,it's, it's, uh, it's, it can be.
Like anything, bro, when youstart something, you're not
gonna be as good.
Yeah, you know, you might havebeen a good dj, but you you're,
you know you, you didn't havethat many weddings under your
belt, so you, you're notfamiliar with the process and it
could become nerve-wrackingbecause you know your wedding's

(10:10):
gonna have 200 people off thetop, off the rip like guarantee
in there.
So everybody's staring at youand you're the center of
attention and it's an importantday.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
It's important, it's a big day to screw up on
somebody, right?
So?

Speaker 3 (10:23):
in the beginning, when you first starting off and
you're doing weddings or let'ssay you've been djing for a
while and then you go startdoing djing, you start djing
weddings, you know, um you getyou're not gonna be good.
In the beginning it'snerve-wracking, you know.
I remember not wanting to dothem ever again yeah, never
again.
I had a brightzilla, you knowthe words, know, and it was just

(10:45):
like man, I'm never doing anyweddings again.
But, um, now, you know, withthe technology and all these
apps and all these platforms andall these DSPs and like these
playlists and man, it is so easy, man, like I could do a wedding
.
Man, it's so easy and they andthey pretty, they pretty much.
You know, if you do a properconsultation with your clients,

(11:06):
you know they're gonna give youeverything you need.
Yeah, you know they're gonnagive you everything you need.
And if you, if you do priorproper preparation, you know
you're gonna be prepared andyou're gonna see what, what type
of music that they like andyou'd be like, oh, I know
exactly what pocket they're in.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yeah, I know, I know where to go.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
They like this then they like this, then they're
going like this, you know, andyou just slide in and then when
you go, when you go pull up, yourealize it's cake, yeah, like
all.
Like, once you're prepared andyou got your confidence up,
there's nothing they can tellyou.
It's like again.
You've been in the gym, my beerbelly gut is gone and the six

(11:42):
pack is flexing.
Y'all gonna wait, just wait,wait till I take my shirt off,
y'all gonna love it you knowwhat I mean and that's what it
is.
It's just being prepared andbeing on your, on your stuff
what's that?

Speaker 2 (11:52):
uh, you, you have this saying, and I think you've
said it every podcast that we'vehad and I don't even know if
you've noticed that you've saidit, but it's, you know, it's
always some inspirational shitpractice makes, makes.
What Progress?
Oh, yeah, for sure, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
You're never going to be perfect.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
No, no one's perfect.
You know, whether you're you asa human being or personality,
but you know, um, this practice,you know, when it comes to life
, you know there's a lot ofstuff that we can't control.
You know life throws stuff atus.
You know, whatever cards youwere dealt, and there's things

(12:28):
you can't control.
But if there is something youcan control, you know, to make
yourself better or whether, whenit comes to your craft, you
know it's up to you to reallywant to do that, and so, um,
with my craft, I decide topractice because that's one
thing that I can control.
You can control that and it's aform of self-discipline.

(12:50):
Yeah, so, like I'm not peoplebe like, you ain't gonna be
cutting it up like, why do Ineed to learn how to cut it up?
Or why do I gotta learn how tojuggle and this and this, and
that I'm never gonna use that?
I rock parties, I rock, do I dothese big shows and this and
this and that I don't need?
Yeah, and they're right.
Even me, man, I do hella bigshows and you know, and

(13:10):
sometimes I'm not cutting it up,but you know it's, it's the
sprinkles on top of the sundae,you know it's the syrup on top
of the cake.
You know it's the extra topping, it's the spice on top of it
and on top of that, you knowit's self-discipline, if you can
commit to, to, to, to beingbetter.
And it's a, it's a challenge.
You know how far can you go?

(13:30):
Yeah, you know.
Only you know, or only you canpush it, and whether, if you
believe you can or you can't,you're right.
You are right.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
Yeah, yeah you have decided it already decided
already, you're gonna go alongthat path so it's up to you and
what you want to do.
See, I, I like to pride myselfin trying to do everything, man.
Trying to, to learn all of it,trying to do all of it.
You know, I started out with arev, one right controller.
Why the fuck did I need to goto turntables and and everything

(14:00):
else?
Because I want to learn all theway back.
I want to go all the way backthrough the history.
I don't want to just get on acontroller and then move forward
.
I want a foundation.
I want that base foundation.
I want to be able to, like yousaid, I want to be able to go in
any setup turntables, 1200s,cdjs, controller, whatever.

(14:23):
I want to be able to go toanything and and get on it and
and go.
I don't want that to be alimiting factor, right, yeah,
and then I don't want topigeonhole myself in anything
like I only do clubs, I only doweddings, I only do parties,
because then you're limitingyour business as well.
Right, I'm like I'm the whiteboy and I'm doing, you know,

(14:44):
quince's and and you know awhole, a whole lot of latin and
spanish and hispanic parties.
I have no business doing otherthan the fact that I put myself
out there, I study the music, Iprepare, like you said, the
things that you can control, Icontrol absolutely.
Yeah, yeah, that's it rightthere.
What do you think about thecompetition, man, between DJs?

(15:07):
The competition, like, forinstance, you did the Meechay
battle recently, right, and youwon it.
You're proud of it, right, ohyeah, and you went up against
some other people.
Now, if we lost, we might feela certain way, right, if we win,
we feel a certain way, and isthere a certain level of
animosity?
Is there a certain level of ofanything else?

(15:29):
Um, and I won't say by younecessarily, man, because I feel
like you're just overall, justa chill, good, you know, like I
won, I won, I lost, I lost andI'm gonna go back into the you
know the warehouse and work itout, work it out, figure it out,
come back, try again, right, I?
don't got I ain't got nothingagainst xyz, that beat me right.
But that's not universal,that's not for everybody.

(15:51):
Some people start dislikingsomebody because they're that
good right yeah, man, um, I'velost a bunch of times already.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
You know what I mean and, uh, it just comes with it
when you, once you understand,like, if you're talking about,
when you say competition, likeif you're talking about battles,
yeah, you're gonna lose.
But if you're talking aboutcompetition as far as like just
djs trying to compete with gigs,that's another thing.
And then you got competitionswith, like you know, I'm saying
when, when dj homies cometogether, like whenever we do,

(16:22):
uh like whenever we have, uhlike little jam sessions, like
you'll see, like every holidaywe have, like when the holidays
come around, like we'll throwjam sessions and and everybody's
in there like and everybody'swaiting for the turn, and
whenever they come on,everybody's.
It's not a competition buteverybody's like, okay, cool.
You know, I remember one yearwe do it was dos muchos party

(16:45):
and we had a dj up in there.
A dj from from bakersfield wasup in there and ace, we couldn't
get nobody it was.
It was a full-ass crowd up inthere and it was, like you know,
supposed to be some funk andsome old school type vibes, but
ace was the one that ace.
Ace cracked him, he got him onthe floor.
All of us was trying, was goinghard in there, like we were all

(17:06):
in there and he.
He played la chona and it was arap.
Oh yeah, you know what I'msaying, hey know your audience
man and sometimes it just belike that man like.
So, when it comes to like djs,yeah, man, like you just got,
you know, like when it comes tothe competition, like everybody,
everybody's a gladiator,warrior, you know, and we all,
we all shot, you know.

(17:27):
You keep each other sharp.
Yeah, and and and and.
Yeah, there's some, um, there'ssome emotions that fly around
for sure, because, um, you know,everybody's got some type of
passion for this.
You know, if you, if you, ifyou're in this, there's some
type of passion, you wouldn'tspent that two racks on that
freaking laptop.
That's just the start.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
That's just the start .

Speaker 3 (17:52):
And now we're collecting music, we're
collecting equipment and now yougot to go outside and perform
in front of people and with yourpeers Shoot.
I remember when I first started, man, when DJ Miff was one of
the uh, you know uh, he still isone of the guys that was out
there running around doing hellagigs, super nice on the

(18:13):
turntables, and he just happenedto be one of my homies and I
was starting up and I wasnervous DJing around him in
front of him because these guysare so good.
You're just like god damn,you're inconfident about your
current, your current um abilityand that's why I like about, uh
, you know, the beat junkieinstitute of sound is that when
you go out there, um, that's thefirst thing that they crush is

(18:35):
like hey, everybody in here isin a different path in their
journey.
Do not let somebody who'sfurther ahead in their path, you
know, distract you from whereyou're at.
Yeah, and we're all gonna helpeach other, and so there's
different levels of skill setsand we're all under there trying
to sharpen our skills and wejust sharpen each other up.

(18:57):
It's not there to like letnobody down.
Or it's not there to like, uh,we're not there to like, like,
show off and burn, burn the nextdjs.
Nah, we're working on routinesand this is the.
This is.
This is this.
It might be a little small babyscratch and some dj might be
like crazy with the scratch, butnah, we're doing small baby
scratches today you know we'renot going crazy.

(19:17):
You know, and and that's what Ilove about being out there, bro
is that it doesn't matter whatyou know, skill set level,
you're at everybody.
You know everybody comestogether and, uh, we train
together yeah, yeah, what, um?

Speaker 2 (19:35):
what kind of pressure do you feel, man?
What kind of pressure do youfeel?
So when you're at uh, you'relike you're at a high profile
event, high profile venue,what's the pressure, man?

Speaker 3 (19:50):
uh, living up to your moment on the stage for sure,
like you know, I mean like, uh,as your status grows, and then
you get to, you know, or or likesomebody like gets big eyes
when they see you and you'vekilled it and they go to book
see you and you've killed it andthey go to book you again and
you're like fuck, I hope I canrecreate that, yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:10):

Speaker 3 (20:10):
That's pressure, that is a lot of pressure.
Or you being somewhere thateverybody knows you're a good DJ
or you're a dope DJ.
Right, and this ain't a um.
I prefer to go rock a crowdthat nobody knows me and I just
surprise everybody because theybe like yo, this guy is dope, yo
they're excited.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
You're fresh, you're new.
You're new blood, you're fresh.
But then when?

Speaker 3 (20:31):
you step up into that room and everybody knows who
you are, and then you go to jumpon and they pull them phones
out.
Oh, that's pressure, bro, thatis pressure you don't want no
shoes in the dryer man not onlythat, like what if you didn't
prepare a set and you were justat the homie's house on the wind
, free flown?
For just you know you gottacome with it you know I'm saying

(20:53):
so.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
We have, uh, in sports sports they call it being
on fire right there they, theyfind their, they're just they
can't miss right kobe hitting,you know 80 points or whatever
you know.
Do you ever feel like you getto that, that zone, if you will,
to where everything just getsshut out?

(21:16):
You don't hear anything, youdon't really see anything.
You're just in this zone andyou're just rocking, just
flowing.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
You know just hell, yeah, hell yeah.
For sure it happens a lot, doesit?
For sure you know it happens alot, a lot, a lot.
And you know, and and even whenyou think you're not, you're
like you're not sure if you are,because there'll be times where
you be locked in and maybe youmight not have a big crowd or

(21:44):
maybe you might be, you know, alittle far away from the crowd
to where you can't feel theenergy.
So you're just like I just gotto go, and then they'll show you
.
They'll jump out of their skin.
You know, and you're just like,oh, I got them.
And then you just can't.
You know, just keep it goingyeah.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
I'm not, I don't know that I'm super there yet, man,
but yeah, we've all had moments.
We've, you know, at all theevents that we've done, we've
had moments where you hear thescream, right.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Like oh shit, that's my.
You know, that's my song.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
People start jumping, people start picking people up,
throwing people in the air andshit starts getting real wild
man Crazy.
Yeah, mm-hmm, yeah, that's abeautiful feeling.
It's a beautiful feeling.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
Yeah, it's almost addictive because once you get
it, you're forever chasing it.
You're chasing that, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
What is it called Chasing the dragon?

Speaker 3 (22:35):
Yeah, chasing the dragon man.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
I ride motorcycles too, right, so it's called
hitting the apex.
Okay, right, and it's.
It's that that sweet corner,it's that sweet spot that you
come in and you hit, and youjust hit it at the perfect angle
to where you hit that apex andyou, you start rolling into the
throttle and the bike just justperfectly goes on track where

(23:00):
it's supposed.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
It's like you're on rails, man, and hitting the apex
, yeah is that when those crossrockets, like where they're like
leaning and they're like damnnear, like their knees are
hitting damn.
Okay, I got you.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
I love it, man I love it I'm gonna have to, I'm gonna
hey.
I'm gonna tell you right now,I'll never get rid of my crotch
rocket.
It's, it's locked up.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
Okay, I thought you're pointing to it, like it
used to be in the room we usedto keep it in the room but I
moved it off.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
I'll never get rid of it.
I love it.
It's the most uncomfortablefucking thing in the world,
though.
Your body will hurt your back,your hips, your knees.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
So it's not made for riding back and forth to LA.
No, don't do it.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
Don't do it, man.
No, so I'm, eventually, we,eventually we're going to get a
cruiser, so we can just, youknow, get on the motorbike sofa,
if you will, and just head outsomewhere, that's right I would
love to just go over to uh eaglemountain right, but a hour
drive on that thing how long?

Speaker 3 (23:56):
how long is a?
How long is a drive?
Until it gets uncomfortable?

Speaker 2 (24:01):
what like 20 minutes yeah well, I mean, I'm, I'm good
with it.
You know, I I'll tell you what.
Man driving from here to thecoast and that's a two hour, two
and a half hour 215, 145,depending on how fucking fast
you're flying um motorcycles a,we got to stop in quiama, new
quiama or whatever.
We gotta get gas, right, youown, you're like a four gallon

(24:23):
tank on the fucking bike.
You fill up here in bakersfield, you take off.
Quiama is like the halfwaypoint.
Put gas in, then get out tonapomo or central coast, right,
you know, you're familiar withthe coast.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
Shout out my boy chumpy he be, he be right he be
riding his bike back and forth.
I know that fool riding hisbike back and forth from the
central coast of bakersfield.
I love right, right, oh man.
It hurts bike, oh man.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
It hurts, man, it hurts and I don't know.
You know I'm 44 now.
I don't know if it's just mybody, but my uncles have all
told me the same thing.
They said you're going to haveto get rid of that thing
eventually.
You know, your back is going tojust hate you.
Your body's going to Cruisers.
They don't do what you said,man.
They don't lean over towardsthe damn ground, man, and

(25:07):
basically rub elbows and kneeswith the ground, the asphalt,
cruisers.
You know they just mosey around, right, right.
But I like that apex, I likehitting that apex, I like
entering the corner and I likeexiting the corner and when it's
just flawless and you roll offthe throttle and back onto the
throttle, it's just beautiful,man, when you don't have to sit

(25:28):
there and readjust the throttleand you're kind of herky-jerky
going around the corner thrill,yeah, yeah, nice I've almost
died on one man.
That's the big left helmet upthere.
I keep that thing up there as areminder.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
Uh, I see the scrapes on that thing whoo, that was
166.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Man, that was, uh, right off of the 101 speed demon
.
Huh nah, man, that was, uh,that was about 11 o'clock at
night.
A group of riders, mix ofriders, man, harley's regular
motorcycles, oh you know we'retalking about the 166 freeway.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
Yeah, gotcha, oh well I have been up there.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Man, I was gonna say yo 16, what's 66 yo?

Speaker 2 (26:04):
crazy, these bikes, man.
They're crazy man.
They weigh 300 pounds and theyhave 200 horsepower.
Right, the horsepower to weightratio is insane.
And sometimes it's the bike,but most of the times it's other
drivers, man, sometimes it'sthe new rider.
You know, it's the, the kidwith all kinds of testosterone
and shit and messing around,doing shit you're not supposed
to do, and then some, most ofthe time it's just other people

(26:27):
distracted on their phone.
Yeah, so you know thecompetitive nature, the pressure
to deliver validation of skills, right, I think a lot of DJs
want their skills validated bytheir peers.
Possibly.
You know other DJs.
You know, of course, you knowthe regular average listener.

(26:52):
They don't know what they'relistening to, necessarily, man,
they don't know the intricacies,the blends, the counting,
everything else.
You know the social media postthat goes around.
You know DJing is like playingTetris on level nine for four
hours.
Right, Shit's coming at youfast.
You got to think ahead of time.
You got to be four steps ahead,five steps ahead, whatever it

(27:14):
may be.
But the validation of skills,man, how important is that to?
I guess some.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
DJs man Shit, that shit's important.
I think it's important toeverybody, anybody and everybody
.
I think, no matter what it is,you do like we can say that I
don't need nobody, you know, tovalidate me, but in reality,
we're human beings and and weall want love.
We want some love, man.
Yeah, we all want love man,everybody wants some love.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
it was funny, man.
You had me and Dose go over toJerry's right.
Uh-huh, that one night we wentover there, two Tuesdays ago or
whatever we went over there TacoTuesday.
Taco Tuesday Went to Jerry'sman and I've never played in
front of you and I've neverplayed in front of Dose.
I don't really play in front ofy'all man because, like you
said, you playing in front ofother people kind of

(28:03):
intimidating man, especiallywhen you're on the lower end.
You know, I don't got thechirps and I don't got the
transformers and I don't got allthis other.
You know all the toolbox thatyou guys have.
Yet I can blend, I cantransition, I can make it sweet,
I can make it smooth you canparty rock yeah, yeah.
So I'm over there and I get onthem finally, and I I've never
been on his reins or anything.

(28:24):
So I'm looking at him, man, I'mhaving to make sure that I know
where everything's at.
You know pretty much, a mixeris a mixer is a mixer man, but
with little differences, right,little layout differences, pad
differences, whatever he hasmapped, differences, all kinds
of shit.
So I get on man.
He's like hey man, what did hecall me?

(28:48):
Light skin?

Speaker 3 (28:48):
He said I got a new name for you man, you DJ Light
Skin.
He did tell me that shit,because he's not a white boy,
he's light skin yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
DJ Light Skin man.
He hit me up a couple timesthroughout the night night and
it was all love man, and Ineeded it.
I needed it.
You know, I don't see the samething.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
Yeah, he was like hey , homie know what he's doing bro
that's what he told me.
You ain't got nothing to worryabout anytime we need him.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
He good but I was like word.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
That's what's up yeah , because I ain't heard you play
either.
So yeah, I'll get.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
I'll jump on one night and night and we'll all
switch through and mess around.
Man.
Subjective feedback.
Man, djing success in a DJingworld can be subjective,
absolutely Like it's to the eye,beholder, audience, reception,
right.
It can fluctuate Doubts.

(29:44):
It leaves doubts, man, you havedoubts.
So for me, going into a club notto be mentioned, whatever it
may be, I may have three peoplethere, man, and it used to bug
me out a little bit, and itstill does to a certain extent.
Man Like, yeah, I want 50people, I want a hundred people,
I want 300 people, I want to, Iwant to play and I want, I want

(30:07):
to make people's nights, makepeople have fun.
I don't have the, the namebehind me, like myth, like like
noctcturnal, like ill flow, likedose, like you know, all of
these other djs in bakersfield,noe, everybody, danny, all of
these guys, man, I don't havethe name behind me, I don't.

(30:28):
I don't work in radio.
I haven't worked in radio, Ihaven't, haven't done any of
that.
And I'm a year and a half, twoyears in, man, and I'm, you know
this is called paying your dueskind of thing.
Right, right, but but who arewe paying dues to?
Right, and I'm, you know thisis called paying your dues kind
of thing.
Right, right, but but who arewe paying dues to right?

Speaker 3 (30:40):
absolutely.
I hear you.
Yeah, yeah, um, I think.
I think it's just, um, I thinkit's just a matter of, of, of,
of, just keep you know, becauseit's a, it's a.
You know, if you were to, like,promote yourself and put ads
out there, I'm sure you wouldget some leads and then you
would be rocking in front ofcrowds, but when?
But?
But then, like you know, youknow, like, let's say that

(31:01):
you're on, you're on the rise,right, and you start rising and
you start getting you know tocertain clubs, or or you, you
get to la, and then you're likeI want to get to the big club.
And you get there and you'relike, man, this shit ain't shit.
You know, I'm behind this.
I wanted to be in this booththis whole time.
I get back here, raggedy assmixer.

Speaker 1 (31:20):

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Just like this shit ain't shit, Tape on it.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
They're trying to tax me for drinks.
I couldn't, didn't even offerme water.
The pay shit.
Wanted to get here this wholetime and now that I'm here, it's
like this, ain't nothing.
So it's never what you think itis.
Yeah, you know, I mean that'sone thing.
It's never what you think it is.
And then, um, you know, if youwant to, you want to, uh, you

(31:46):
know, jump in front of morecrowds, then you, you know,
target them, target the crowds,and then, and then figure out
how to market it how to get in?
yeah, because you know, or or orthrow your own party in and
create your own crowd if thespot is not, if these people are
paying you and they're notdoing you justice by doing

(32:08):
promotion, because a lot ofvenues they're looking for a DJ
who can do a bunch of stuff forfree and the free stuff is the
flyers and the promotion.
You know, I mean there's thisuns, this is unsaid line that no
one talks about you know andand you'll know it, when they
tell you, hey, uh, when you,when you are booked at a venue,

(32:30):
yeah, and, and you you're likecool and you just don't do a
flyer, uh-huh, and they'll belike, hey, can you do?

Speaker 1 (32:36):
a flyer and then you'll be like, hey, can you do?

Speaker 3 (32:37):
a flyer and then you'd be like well, I, actually
I charge a hundred dollars perflyer and I charge for posting
too.
So, you know, if you pay meextra 200, I'll make sure that
this flyer gets into all themajor groups with the big people
in there, and I'll make sure Iget some people to repost it, to

(32:58):
repost it.
Uh, you know, get yourbartenders involved and get them
to repost it.
Yeah, you know, and then I will.
I will market it.
You know what.
I might even use a smallportion of the budget that
you're giving me to pay for someboosting ads, since you're not
boosting it.
You know, and these thingsright here are, you know, are
are things that we don't speakabout when it comes to
negotiations.
And when you're in negotiations, it's a war, because what's

(33:19):
good for you is not good for meand what's good for me is not
good for you.
So, until we come to anagreement and we have mutual
business and we're getting breadtogether, then this is
negotiation.
Yeah, you know, and sometimesthese, these venues don't lock
in with you.
They don't lock in with youbecause they want you, they want
to be free, they want to beable to, uh, free, landscape and

(33:40):
book whoever they want.
Yeah, you know, if you, ifyou're not working out and I get
it, it's business.
You know, we're all trying toget to the business, so it just
depends on what you're trying todo.
So, a person like you, if youlike, man, I don't want to be
rocking on empty clubs and don'trock the empty club, bro.
Go find the, go find the clubthat is cracking, or go find a
bar who has potential andthey're just opening up and they

(34:01):
need help.
Yeah, you know, I mean, andthey're willing, they're more
receptive to ideas and they'rewilling to uh, to um, invest in
the night.
You know, I mean, because a lotof times it takes a plan of
action first.
First, you got to make a planof action correct.
How are you gonna go going togo about it?
Yeah, you know, like, how arewe going to promote this?
And then you got to find outwho your demographic is.
Yeah, you got to dial in.

(34:22):
Who are we targeting?
Are we targeting 40 and up?
Are we targeting the OGs, likeyou know, 50 and up?
Or are we trying to get theyoungsters?
Yeah, you know, or are.
What are we selling?
Are we selling bottles?
Are we just a bar and we'reselling entertainment?
Are we selling a good time?
If we're selling a good time,let's figure out a way to how

(34:42):
many tables do we got?
We got 10?
.
Let's fill each five per table.
All right, it's a number.
Let's go for these numbers.
Let's dial in and let's putsome work in.
Are you going to holler atother DJs to come be guests and
have them repost the flyer?
It's a whole.

(35:03):
That's one thing that I thinkthat Bakersfield lacks these
days is a promoter.
There's no promoter out there.
What promoter do you know?
That is known, a known promoter.
The only one I recently cameacross because I won that battle
is the Michi events.
All right, he has become apromoter and he's throwing
promoters, promoting shows everyweek and they're big shows and

(35:26):
they're filled with people.
He's got a following.
He understands his niche, sohe's targeting that niche and
he's understanding what type ofvenues he wants.
So he's hopping to the venuesthat he's like and, bam, they're
rocking with him because he'sbringing a whole crowd.
Yeah, he's the only promoter.
What promoter do you know, bro?
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
No promoter I don't know promoters there's throwing
shows.
Well, maybe one or two, but youknow, I know a bunch of
promoters and they're named djshere in this town.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
The first name is dj, yeah, dj promoter.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
First name DJ.
Last name promoter.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
So you know.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
I think.
I think what's missing ispromotion and and and.
When it comes into promotion,it comes to advertising,
advertising and marketing.
And when it comes to, you know,nowadays people Are just
posting.
No one's advertising.
No one's actually paying forads On Online Paying Online
Radio ads, paying advertising.

(36:19):
No one's actually paying forads on online paying online uh,
radio ads, paying for tv ads,paying for posters to put up.
You know it's a whole process.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
Yeah, it's work so and I'm sure you've been there,
we talk all the time, my guy, um, you can't make other people
care more than you do.
How do you feel about thatstatement?
You can't make a club or avenue care more than you do.
How do you feel about thatstatement?
You can't make a club or avenue care more about their
event or their whatever it maybe?

(36:45):
Then you do.
You can't make them care more.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
No, I don't think you can.
I mean um, I mean shoot you.
You, you will be able to.
You will be able to identifyhow much they care by just
checking out their online stuff.
You could tell by how they movebefore you even get there.
You could tell.
You could tell, and the onesthat do care, it's going to be

(37:11):
harder to get in.
Of course, they've got itfigured out.
They've invested.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
And they're very particular about their
demographic, about what they'vebuilt, about what they've set up
.
And hey, hip Hop Saturday,latin Friday, and getting that
out there.
But when you have a, when youcombine I'm going to put this
out there when you combinesomebody not caring as much as
you with a possible identitycrisis, who are we, what are we

(37:44):
offering?
What are we doing?
What are we about?
And consistency in that.
So people not caring more thanyou do, you can't make somebody
care more than you do.
If there's an identity crisis,who are we?
What are we doing?
What are we offering?
Who's our demographic,everything else, and you combine
those man, it it seems messy,it seems set up for failure I

(38:12):
hear you.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
I hear you.
Um, yeah, man, you just got tobe on your stuff.
Yeah, yeah, you can't speak.
You know each venue isdifferent, man.
You know everybody gots their,uh, their venue, like every
venue gots their um, their thing.
Um, I got this one ladydowntown on baker and she, uh,
you know she has a smaller venue, um and uh, it doesn't cost

(38:35):
that much but to rent it out.
But she stays consistent.
She stays consistent and shedoesn't feel like throwing
parties and she doesn't want toopen the doors up for regular
patrons.
Anybody riff-raff.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
Yeah, like a bar.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
So she would rather just have somebody book out her
venue and she's probably in asituation financially where she
don't have to throw parties andshe's probably in a situation
financially where she don't haveto like throw parties and she's
not chasing the bag.
You know, there's people thatare trying to survive and do
business and do well, and thenthere's people who have invested
and it's and, and, and and theyand they're doing this shit for

(39:10):
their passion.
You know I mean and, andthey're going to continue to
grow and build it because theylove it and they care for it.
And it's not just another assetin their portfolio.
You know they're actually goingto just go ahead and like, come
up with something and they'regoing to keep fine tuning the
approach until it works.

(39:30):
Yeah, you know what I mean andthat's what it takes, man.
It takes passion, love andcaring.
Like you said, I care, man, ittakes passion, love and one and
karen, like you said, I care.
You know, and when you find youfine-tune your approach and you
figure it out, then then yougot something and you hold dear
to it and then you know, you tryto block anybody from messing
that up.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
Yeah, yeah.
So her, our havana night man,has been I won't say wildly
successful.
It's been successful, it's beengreat man you know, bro, 200
people congrats a pop.
We're shooting for three, we'reshooting for four and, quite
frankly, I'd like to sell thejoint out.
Man, I would like to hitcapacity.
I would like to be able to turnpeople away Like, hey, we're
full man.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
Lying outside.
Exactly you got to get in.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Yeah, you know, that's a whole big tables, yeah,
and we're doing everything, man, we, uh, we've grown
consistently over the last threehavana night events.
This next one, man, we'rebringing in more talent, we're,
we're, we're putting moretechnology in.
We're uh, man, what are we?
We got all kinds of crazy stuffgoing on.

(40:31):
We're gonna have photographers,videographers that's another
thing.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
That's like, yeah, that's another thing that I
don't you know, um, I don't seevery many, uh, that I would do
if I own a venue, like I woulddefinitely have.
Like how I have security guardsand djs and bartenders every
night, like for sure, I'mbooking a videographer and a
photographer for at least onehour to come through and capture
some reels and use those reelsfor the social media market

(40:57):
going forward.
Because you know this wholesocial media thing is an
algorithm and if you're notposting three times a day, no
one's going to see your posts.
Yeah, so you're just wastingyour own time and breath and
money if you're paying for theflyer, um, because you ain't
going to get nowhere.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
You know you got to post three times a day in order
for them to open that algorithmup, because they want content
creators who are creatingcontent that is entertaining,
because we don't want you onYouTube, we want you on our
platform.
So if you're playing, if you'recreating cool content that
keeps people on our platform,then I'm going to open up your
profile a little bit more somore people can see your content

(41:36):
.
Because you're keeping peoplehere, you ain't sending them to
YouTube.
Yeah, they're engaged here.
That's our job is to keep peoplehere.
Don't post no YouTube link.
You post that YouTube link, I'mburying it.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
You ain't going to get no likes, do not redirect
away from us.
No.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
This is real business .
You know what I'm saying.
So if you want to see sometraction online and get people
to your business that's actuallyout there you got to post more.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
So we're major investing man.
The first two, first three, youshould just open up your own
bar.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
I would love to Figure out what it takes to get
that liquor license, becausethat's the only thing that
really stops stopping any of usDJs is that liquor license.
Yeah, and it's a lottery, it'sexpensive, you got your credit
right and if you don't hit thelottery you're gonna pay a
premium price.
So you know from somebody whoowns it, but that's the ultimate
goal, like what will happen isis that you know these djs get

(42:32):
smart, you know, I mean, youknow.
I mean they end up opening.
They realize that all they needis four walls and we can cut
out middle classes.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
We can cut out two and three middle men, bingo,
yeah, all kinds of stuff.
Yep, yeah, we're, we're, we'redoing everything we can with
that thing.
Man, like I said, we've Iwouldn't say we've lost money
during the first three, um, butwe had no cover, it was free,
everything was completely freeand in the amount that we put in
might have been mitigated bywhat we were getting paid.

(43:02):
Right, we were breaking even.
So now we're, but.
But that's vision for me, right?
I?

Speaker 3 (43:08):
feel like long term.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
That's, long term, that's not me trying to grab the
bag right now exactly that's meseeing the bigger picture,
understanding that we're growingto 200, 300, 400.
We're boosting posts, we'reposting.
That's what.

Speaker 3 (43:23):
That's what you're supposed to do right there yeah,
so we're yeah yeah, we're thereyeah, and and that's another
thing, like understand like youknow, understanding like, uh,
where you're at, you know if you, if you ain't got, you know, if
you're not bringing, like youknow, let's say, you got five,
ten people in every friday likeyou know.
You got to know how, if youain't got you know, if you're
not bringing, like you know,let's say, you got five, ten
people in every Friday, like youknow, you got to know if you're
growing or not.
You know what I mean the number, what's the number?

(43:44):
You know what's the averagelast three months.
Okay, the last three months,we've averaged, you know, 150
people a night.
Okay, we got to figure out howto get to 100.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
Yeah, figure out how to get to 100.
Yeah, and once you get to 100,we gotta figure out how to get
to 200 there can't be nocomplacency, man, you can't be
complacent.
Yeah, yeah, you can't okay.
We have work, we got 50 people,cool, whatever.
I don't want that.
I don't want that.
I don't want the bare minimum,I don't want getting by.
I want great, I expectgreatness, I want great and
that's what's crazy.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
Like you know, like when I I I'm getting on my,
getting on my health, getting onmy um, you know eating well and
then and then, and then youknow, with the whole practice
practicing so much, you know I'msaying like once you start,
once you get into that, to thatpocket, in that lane of trying

(44:32):
to be your best and doing yourbest possible, you realize that
you don't want to be around anyslouches.
Yeah, you're like I don't wantto be around.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
That shit might rub off on me, it'll bring you down.
No, for real.

Speaker 3 (44:44):
Yeah, it'll drag you down, you want people who who
are operating at a high level aswell.
Yeah, because that's how we'reonly gonna get somewhere.
Yep, gotta push I ain't gonnacarry you all in my bag.
You gotta carry your own weightoh man, you've been quiet again

(45:05):
.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
I don't really appreciate this.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
She's just chilling.
It might as well just be me andIlflow right here.
You need to get involved.
What questions do you have forIlflow or for me?
On the DJ game, on the business, on on different aspects.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
Okay, my question is like how do you guys, um, like,
when you guys are doing awedding, how do you guys like,
cope with you don't have a gooddancing crowd.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
Yeah, uh you I understand what you're saying.
So all you could do, all youcould, all you could do is just
keep trying.
Um, all you could do is keeptrying, and and, and and.
When you ain't got them, keeptrying, keep trying to figure
out where they're at.
You know, sometimes you why not?
You, right you, you might notget a crowd that just ain't into
dancing.

(45:54):
You might get a elderly couplewedding where these people are
elderly and all their people areout.
They want to hear sinatra andthey just want to chill.
Yeah, you know, or you, you,they might be dancing.
You just can't tell becausethey're dancing in their seat.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
You know because they're ogs and they're like you
know you got to watch bodymovement, you got to watch
facial expressions, you got towatch people engaging.
For me, yeah, there's a wholelot to it and those that's my
consolation prize, if you will.
First and foremost, I want thefucking dance floor.
I want the dance floor.
I want 20 at least on the dancefloor, minimum, and I don't

(46:28):
want to have to require a linedance to get that right.
I want organic, I want music andI want because anybody can
throw a fucking line dance onget that shit out there and then
snap a picture, right, right,but your other four hours of
that event was dead as hell.
You know like who.
What facade are we putting upbehind the dj facade, right?

(46:49):
Um, yeah, for me it'sdefinitely that.
And in in, the consolationprize for me is seeing people
smiling, seeing people happy,seeing people tap their feet
trying to find anything thatsays, hey, they love the music,
they just aren't dancers.
We've also had a dry wedding,and that's a challenge.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
No way, yeah, that's a challenge.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
I don't think I've ever had.
I think I had a wedding whereit was like it wasn't dry but it
wasn't like Open bar.
It was like, alright, we gotthe bar Open, who wanna buy?

Speaker 2 (47:23):
and people weren't Getting drunk yeah, we had a dry
Wedding and, surprisingly, werocked it.
That's what's up surprisingly.
And that kind of Validate.
It kind of validates you right,I don't require alcohol To get
people to have a good time.
I can get on the mic.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
You know who don't need alcohol to have a good time
.
Teenagers, oh yeah, yeah, bro,I did a sweet 16 last year.
I'll never forget it.
Man, them kids wild out and itstarted raining and they know it
started hailing and they jumpedin the pool.
In the pool, in the pool, theywere wilding out they made you
feel like a kid again man, itjust made me feel like, you know

(48:02):
, because they gave and I lovethat crate, that they gave me
too, because, like the cratevalidated me as to knowing my
stuff.
Yeah, because, like everythingthat they had and they're like I
got it, it's all good, like Iknow their music, yeah you
mentioned that.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
I'm gonna ask you, man, how do you personally feel
about requests?
I love them, I do too, and I II see so much hate social media,
whatever about requests ortwenty dollars and this and that
and that and this is like, look, man, for me I take it as they

(48:39):
are helping me.
They're helping me.
At least I know that thisperson's going to enjoy that
song, and as long as it itdoesn't stray too far away.
You know, I'm playing somehip-hop and then now they want
some death metal or something.
I'm not playing that shit right.
I haven't been to a death metalparty or wedding or anything
else, and I don't even think Ihave a crate for that shit man.
I haven't been to a death metalparty or wedding or anything
else, and I don't even think Ihave a crate for that shit man.

(49:00):
I would have to try to streameverything over title or
something real on the on the goman I got some.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
I got a heavy metal crate with intros on those songs
.
Do you really like all intro?

Speaker 2 (49:10):
oh man, on these heavy metal crates yeah yeah, so
I like, I like requestspersonally, um it gives me an
idea of where they might be.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
Yeah and you and you learn stuff too, like you know.
You learn new music, for sure,like you know they.
And then you be like damn, likedamn, you want that one.
Like fuck, no, no, you know, Idon't know, just gonna struggle
with it like do I do it do?
I're like do I do it, do I not?

Speaker 2 (49:39):
do it, do, I do it.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
You just got to realize that you are.
If you're being paid to bethere, right, if someone invited
you to their house or theirwedding, you know, and you just
got to know where you'reproviding a service and people
are not there to see you andwhat you play, correct.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
But you also have that one cousin or whatever.
That's super odd, or maybe notto them being odd, but they
request this song that you justknow.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
It's going to bomb.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:12):
Yeah, play it.
And the reason why I say playit is because you're going to
make that person's day.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
Yes, exactly.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
That one person like you know what I mean.
Yeah, sometimes you know, yeah,there might be some stuff you
might have to turn away and itmight be a bum.
But then you know if you'rebeing hired and they say, yeah,
you know, if my people come andask for a request, yeah, it's
cool, then just I guess I try toplay them right away.
Yeah, I try to pay them rightaway, get them out the way.

(50:41):
Get them out the way.
But if it's a good one and Iknow it's going to, I'm like oh,
this one right here is going tofit over here.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
I'm heading there.
I'm going to weigh out.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
It's in the prepare'm ready once I get up those 15
bpms where I need to be.
I'm dropping that motherfucker.
Yeah, yeah.
And then you know, you learnstuff too.
You know, learn, learn.
You know I learned a lot fromrequests.
Yeah, yeah, I've learned a lotof music from requests like
slide that one into the cratebecause I was a banger yeah,
yeah, absolutely yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
I love learning new music from people and look, man,
like you said, the appreciationthat you get from somebody,
that they were quote-unquoteimportant enough for you to play
their song, for them it meansthe world to some people.
Man, like, like, why not makesomebody feel good if he, if you
can, if you can make it fit in,why not?

(51:34):
Why not?
Why not make somebody's day,why not?
And that got that person's daythat you're making might make
five other people's day outthere too, because there's times
.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
There's times when you're you're gonna be uh.
There will be a time whereyou're not gonna take requests.
You know there's gonna be timeswhere you're somewhere and
you're rocking this type ofparty, like, for instance, one
time I did uh.
I did uh shout out to the homieCheeto.
I did Cheeto's Rectified right,and Cheeto's Rectified is all

(52:03):
vinyl.
That's at the Mint, right atthe Mint, all vinyl party he
played, it's all vinyl.
If you're a DJ and you getinvited there, he's gonna ask
you to play vinyl.
And I went up in there with a45 set and this chick was like
asking for Bad Bunny Right.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
Obviously you got Bad Bunny on vinyl, right?
I don't.

Speaker 3 (52:20):
But you know, Cheeto does.
But, yeah, cheeto is crazy, bro, he's current Like you'd be
like you got any Taylor Swift.
You're coming right up Like onvinyl.
I'm like yo, like he is currenton his vinyl.
Yeah, that's what he do.
But, um, I was like, yeah, yeah, I'm not playing.
No bad bunny, tonight it'svinyl night, yada, yada, yada.
And she grabbed my cradlefreaking 45s and started digging

(52:41):
through.
It was crazy.
Those caught the, uh caught thelittle video online matter of
fact uh, re broke podcastreposted it like, oh really,
yeah, it was crazy.
But yeah, like there's gonna betimes where you, you know where
you could, you, you, you'regetting invited to be the
selector you know, and this isyour set you know people are

(53:02):
here for you you've been invitedto come, do you?
you know what I mean?
Like these people may not behere for you, but this is a jam
session, and like, nah, youdon't gotta take no requests, we
just want you to get off.
So there'll be moments likethat and those moments are the
fun, you know, because you getto display your style, you know

(53:23):
your selection and what youthink is dope.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
You get to be you.

Speaker 3 (53:25):
You get to be you and that's where you know those are
the funnest.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
Those are the ones, those are the ones, those are
the gigs bro, and they don'tplay that much, I ain't gonna
lie.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
They don't play that much, I ain't gonna lie.
No, but when you love thismusic and you love the turntable
shit or this dj shit, whateverit is that you do, you know, um,
those are the fun gigs.
You know, I, I would, I wouldrather just rock out with four
homies and all of us take turns,you know I'm gonna.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
I'm gonna hit you on cheeto right now.
I've been messaging him.
Over the last couple weekswe've been liking each other
shit here and there.
Whatever, he's been cool manhe's been cool, supportive, and
I'll detract from what I'm aboutto say right now.
I have gotten more love from OGDJs, og, the vinyl guys.

(54:17):
You know a lot of love from alot of people that have been
doing this shit a very long timeand doing it on vinyl or
whatever else, as opposed to thecontroller djs.
You know some of the newer djsnot a whole lot of love a lot of
times, man, but for some reasonthe old heads man, they,
they're cool, they're cool asfuck.
So I've been talking to cheetoman.

(54:38):
I was like hey, man, I I reallylike your, your digital art man
oh, you like how uh he puts.

Speaker 3 (54:46):
Uh, yeah, that shit is dope.
All them projectors, yeah,projectors, yeah that shit is.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
So I've been talking to him and I want to get
involved in it eventually myself, for for my gigs, my uh, you
are, uh, you talking about, uh,a projection.

Speaker 3 (54:58):
Yeah, yeah, oh yeah man yeah me too, man, he, he
inspired me too.
Man, like um, being that I do alot of streaming, I do a lot of
, uh, visuals too, but I'venever had it to where, like I, I
don't got it to where I got,like, for instance, another
homie, out there is a dj and he,anywhere he goes like he does
big, big, like a little bit morebigger production, right, okay,

(55:19):
he does the trust scene andeverything right.
But he always busts out tvs andhe likes the dj videos, yeah,
you know.
So he'll, he has, he has histrust scene, he'll put two tvs
up and then he'll he'll streamhis, his videos to that.
So you know.
And then you got cheeto overhere, he's, he's busting out,
doing the same thing, except forhe's um, it's his graphics,

(55:39):
he's projecting, yeah, digitalgraphics, that's all he's doing
is doing projection.
Yeah, digital graphics, yeah,and he, but it's the same
concept.
But what was cool about it isthat with cheeto, he understood
the wireless part.
So he figured out a way to likewirelessly, wirelessly send
signal from this part for histhing, all the way to everything
.
Yeah, right, yeah, and Ithought that was cool and I I'm

(56:01):
trying to get my streaming inreal life.
So instead of me just doing itat the house, I was.
I was doing when I would dothat, 1933.
I'll bam, hit all the screensand I'll make it look crazy,
yeah and the same thing with acouple other venues.
And when you could do that, itjust sets you apart, makes you
look a little bit moreprofessional.
I'll do it at elements.

(56:22):
Elements.
You know he got tvs everywhereand big old screens, so that's a
manual right.
Yep, all right, and you knowyou could.
You could hook up with yourhdmi cord, but I thought it was
cool how cheeto could do itwirelessly so he could virtually
do it from any corner of theroom.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
Yeah, you know, I mean, I'm like yo you ill for
that one.

Speaker 3 (56:39):
But this is a couple little pieces.
You know, you're just learningthe game.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
So yeah, yeah, he's been cool as hell man.

Speaker 3 (56:44):
He said he was gonna help me out with it he said to
come down, check it out, doeverything else if you ain't
checked out rectify, go checkout rectify man.
Rectify is dope man, like inthat little patio in the back.
Bro, yeah, you can cheat backthere, you can just grab a few
beers.
I'll man, a lot of times I'llbe gigged up and I'll be coming
home from the, from a gig, andI'll just pop in and just burn

(57:06):
one and you know and listen tothese fools and orange dj, okay,
so it's, it's fucking cheetoand orange.
And then, uh, the homie, uh,estas Bien, has been popping up
lately, but Orange gets down too, really, yeah, and I'm not like
the type of music that he plays, like I'm not very like

(57:27):
knowledgeable and know it verymuch, and it's not something
that I listen to, I ain't gonnalie.
But I can tell how dope he isfrom his style.
He's playing all this stuff onvinyl and it's some crazy like
remixes and stuff that you ain'tnever heard before and it's
just like yo he's.
He got a big ass beard, likeyou too, bro.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
He got a big old beard, like you bro.

Speaker 3 (57:49):
He's cool people too, man.
I love Orange, orange andCheeto, bro, both cool ass
people man, Like it's been loveever since I since I met them
guys.
So I that's one party inbeggarsville that I love because
, um, you go down there, bro,and and cheetos playing
everything and he's always gonnahave like a guest so you never
know what the guest is gonnaplay.
Yeah, and then you know yougotta stop being popping up now.

(58:11):
And then you know orange isalways coming correct with what
he got.
You know, and you you mighthear some like, um, some jungle
or some drum and bass fromorange, but then he might go
into some raw undergroundhip-hop like super raw, so like
real underground, so like, yeah,man, it's cool man, uh, um,
then then you got the visualsand just you know that little
back patio gets packed out, soit's a little vibe yeah it's a

(58:34):
vibe so I don't like to be outtoo much, but I definitely pop
in on fridays and and kick itfor a good hour, are they?
are they there every friday?
No, it's the third friday ofevery month, third friday of
every month, so I might becoming up this friday, matter of
fact yeah, I might.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
We'll block that off ahead over there check it out,
oh, next friday next friday.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
This friday, next friday yeah, hell yeah next
friday is gonna be a cool one,though, too.
I just saw the flyer it's gonnabe.
So they're not doing vinyl thisnext Friday, but it's Richard
Duvall's birthday.
I've seen that Duvall project,right, well, yeah, he's part of
it, but he's also a DJ.
Okay, yeah, they play a lot ofhouse music.
So it's Richard Duvall andJosex Josex.
They got a whole.

(59:12):
Their crew is the basement.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
And the basement is like whole sex.
You know Richard Duvall, cheetoum orange.
I'm sure he got somebody elsewith them and uh, yeah, they're
doing that for Richard'sbirthday, so they're probably
gonna bust out the CDJs and gocrazy.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
I think I put interested on it, I think I seen
the event and I think I markedmyself interested and I think I
think Cheeto invites me all thetime.
He's like hey man, you knowjust in case you want to come
out, yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
Yeah, he's been cool, he's been cool.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
But that's.
That's the difference, man is,some of these old heads, some of
these older DJs, some of theaficionados, are the people that
do it for the love of the music.
You can definitely tell thedifference between people who
are doing it for money cloutstrictly money clout social
media I want to be popular,whatever else and then the other
group that does it for the loveof the music and for the art

(01:00:08):
and everything else absolutely.
And for me I'm on that otherend.
Right again not to judgeanybody else, who.
I don't know anybody else'slife, I don't know anybody
else's money situations, but mybelief in life, in everything
that I do, is money comes as abyproduct.
If I love what I'm doing, it'sgonna come if I'm passionate, if

(01:00:29):
I work hard at it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:30):
It'll come, it's gonna come, it'll come on its
own it's gonna come.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
That's why I don't sweat things, man, like I always
, I always try to look at thevision.
A year down the road, threeyears down the road, look man,
we get 400 people into Havananight.
Those 400 people, they're goingto remember Gordie B.
They're going to remember, youknow, ill Flow.
They're going to rememberwhoever it is.
And who do you think they'regoing to hit up when they have
an?

Speaker 3 (01:00:53):
event For sure, and that's another thing, like how
you were talking about.
You know how you're talkingabout.
You know, man, I don't likedjing in front of zero crowds
and I hear you, no one does, bro, but like you know those you
never know who's in that crowd,even if one person pulls up,
because that, like I'm trying totell you, like I was in a bar
and nobody was in there yeah,one guy walked in there and I

(01:01:15):
still work with that guy to thisday and and that's part of the
reason why I DJ on the centralcoast so much Shout out my boy
Tim modern symphony.
It's cause he walked in, he sawme getting down and I was just
in there having fun by myselfand now we got.
We got a you know, five yearfive year business working
relationship.
I'm doing three, four gigs amonth with him.
Sometimes, you know I mean andbooking up, booking me a year

(01:01:36):
out in advance.
You know I mean like it's crazy.
Yeah, you know, I mean we got,we got a really good working
relationship.
He throws me, throws me livesall the time, brings me out all
the time.
I appreciate him, heappreciates what I do for the
company, yeah, and we just keepworking.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
That's a mutual just just took one person walking in,
yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
So, uh, you know, uh, you know, learning from dose,
dose, dose's approach.
You know I should let him tellit, but I don't know if it's
really, I don't know if it's hisapproach, but what I peeped is
that you know, um, slow motionis gonna come around.
So you know, slow motion isbetter than no motion.
But when you ain't got nomotion, you get out there and

(01:02:16):
you make it.
You get out there, yeah, andyou make it happen.
So, like um, you ain't got nomotion, you get out there and
you make it.
You get out there and you makeit happen.
So, like you know, he'll justgo out there and go bop around
and go perform wherever and thensomeone will be like yo, you
dope, and then he'll get a gig.
He does that shit all the timeand he just goes and just goes,
showcases himself.
That's you know what I mean.
He pulls up where's the jam at?

(01:02:36):
Who's over here?
Okay, you jamming over here,I'm gonna pull up on you and you
might just, he just pulling upshowing love, and you might be
like yo, hop on.
I'm like all right, hell yeah,and he hops on.
I remember one time I was DJingat Manuel G's for a Sunday
Cowboy, cowboy games, cowboygames.

(01:02:58):
Yeah, cracking, and I was likeyo, dose come through, come
through.
He came through and I was likeyo, close it out for me.
You want Jabbar, like, becauseit's cracking in there.
There's a hell of people inthere.
He's like hell.
Yeah, I was like all starts torocking and he's rocking the
walkout.
Because you know you got thewalk-in and then you know DJing

(01:03:19):
between commercials, a littlebit of halftime, and then the
walkout, we'll jam and keeppartying until everybody leaves,
you know.
And I was like go ahead, jamthe walkout.
He's like I bet.
And so, as he's DJing, sureenough some people come up to
him and they're like you know,manuel G's a DJ too, right, and

(01:03:40):
he still gots a lot of DJbusiness, you know, and people
come book with him all the timeand he hands them out or he'll
do them whatever you know, andwe're at Manuel G's business so
they come up to him.
They come up to Dose asking himfor his business card, and he's
like and then he goes.
He's like hey, hey, dose, he'sall like.
You know, I'm gonna need Halfan hour.

(01:04:01):
I'm on my cut.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
Booking gigs in my place.
Bro, what's wrong with you?
It?

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
was all he was.
Just you know Messing around,but yeah, of course you know
Stepping outside, just you knowbopping around.
That's another way of like, youknow jumping in front of the
crowd and and somebody seeingyou and then leading.
You know, leading to you tobigger gigs and bigger crowds,
you know what I mean.
Or just pulling up to you knowshowing love to other djs.
You know that boy might need abathroom break.

(01:04:30):
Yeah, yeah man, you know whatI'm saying he'd be like yeah,
jump on, play three records,four records.
You know what I mean, bet, andthat opens up a relationship.
And a lot of times they'd belike, how do I get in here, how
do I get in here?
And they'd pull up to the venuetry to holler at them.
The main way you get into aspot is through the other DJ.
Bro, yeah, that's how you getin.
Yeah, the other DJ is a dj.

(01:04:52):
You got rapport with him.
He gonna rock with you and thenhe'll he'll bring you on and
when he brings you on, he'llintroduce you to the owner and
then after that, now you'retrusted, yeah, and they see that
you can get down.
Now they know you.
He said it was cool, so he'snot breaking the business
relationship with his main dj sohe can fuck with you.
Now you're on the side and it'sall love.

(01:05:13):
Now, yeah, you know, I meaneverybody's cool, that's how get
in.
You don't get in by just tryingto jump in, go knock on the
door and holler at the manager.
I mean you can and you might beable to get in that way.

Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
You might get in that way too.
It's harder.

Speaker 3 (01:05:25):
You know, establishing rapport and
networking with people.

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
And see, I'm always respectful man Like.
I'm not trying to invade onanybody's, I'm not trying to
take anybody's business anythingelse, if I go in there, it's
with the purest of intentions,bingo, I just want to listen to
your set, show you some love andshow up and leave right.
Absolutely.
I'm not looking to do a guestset.
I'm not looking to dropanything, I'm not looking for

(01:05:49):
anything like that, and I thinkwhat you said, that's the right
way to go about it is throughthe resident dj, who is there
but if you don't show up or show, does it look like you're
hating.

Speaker 3 (01:05:59):
If you don't pull up to the event, does it see, do
you see?
Do you see what I'm saying?
Yeah, it's a double-edged sword, it is.
But if you, if youintentionally are just jump,
jumping out and going, you'regoing and showing love and
checking out djs, just to learnand just genuinely showing love.
Like you gotta do it now,because once you get booked you
ain.
Like you got to do it nowbecause once you get booked, you

(01:06:20):
ain't going to be able to do itbecause you're booked.
Yeah, once you start gettingbooked, you ain't got time to be
pulling up to everybody's gigor showing love because you're
gigging.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Yeah, you're gigging.
You're just like bro.
I just got done doing this gig.
It's about 1 o'clock or 12o'clock.
I still got all this equipmentin the ride.
I'm not trying to pull over toyour spot right now.
Go check you out and have myshit out there.

(01:06:42):
Plus, I'm tired.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
Hey, but this last weekend I tried to my dude, did
you Remember?
Hey, I was over there onFairfax and Brundage at the
Grange Hall or whatever Grange.

Speaker 3 (01:06:53):
Hall.
Oh okay, I know what you'retalking about.
It's a cat corner, 7-eleven.
I know exactly what you'retalking about grimey old G shit
oh man, weird shit.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
Man it was old, I hadn't been there.
Man my dad got married there,like his his third marriage, I
think and I hate to say that youknow it sounds bad my pops got
married the last time that hegot married before he passed
away and so it was a little, youknow, a little sentimental or

(01:07:21):
whatnot.
But I wrapped up and that was aMexican baby shower man, that
was cumbias and banda andcorridos and, you know, maybe
towards the end of the night forthe younger kids, we started.
You know, I started playingsome Megan Thee Stallion for the
girls and shit, sexy red, oh myGod, you know I started playing
some megan the stallion for thegirls and shit.
You know, sexy red, oh my godman, there's some of that I'm,
I'm knowing, bro, you ain'tgotta tell me, I already know so

(01:07:43):
, as I was leaving, I textedilflo and I was like hey, man, I
know you're over there, youknow, I know you're mixing and
everything else.
I know you don't have yourfucking phone on you, you know.
But just, I mean, I'm wearingthis, basically shorts and a
t-shirt, you know, because it'shot as hell and that Grange
building was hot as hell too.
I was in there sweating like Iwon't even say man, but I was

(01:08:05):
sweating.
So I hit you up and I hitJackie up and I was like hey,
you think, you know, is it coolif I swing by?
I'm in shorts, right, I justwant to swing by, say hi, you
know, show some support.
And I didn't hear back fromeither one of you for a little
while, right.
And I got home and I was likehey, man, I'm already home, it's
cool man.
But you know, I was going tostop by and say what's up, man?

Speaker 3 (01:08:28):
And it was 12 o'clock , it was you know.
Oh, man, you's been.
It's pretty busy man, it's abusy night and I think if the DJ
can keep them there, like Ifeel like in the beginning it
starts off slow but then it'llpick up, but if it's not jamming

(01:08:51):
, I feel like they'll dip.
You know what I mean?
I feel like like eh, On to thenext one.
Let's try to find out where it'scracking, yeah, like you know,
and that's how that's the youngmentality of, like you know,
we're gonna step out and we'regonna go where it's cracking and
like.
And if it ain't cracking up inthere, you know, and that that
spot right there is like it'slike 50, 50.
You know it's 50, 50 young, 50,50 ogs, like you know.

(01:09:13):
I mean like it's here or mess,but it was cracking these last
couple weekends I've been thereman so one of the things I I've
I've thought about, wondered,noticed is location, location,
location, location.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
Right downtown seems pretty easy.
I don't say that, bro, becausethat's where the crowd is right,
that's where everybody'smingling between the three or
four places to go jump between.

Speaker 3 (01:09:41):
I don't know, bro.
I mean because you got to think, you know, the Mint was right
there and Riley's been there foryears, right, they got that
little triangle effect, right,and then they shut down.
You know, they shut down,syndicate, syndicate turned into
Roosters or whatever.

(01:10:01):
So there's no hip-hop going on?
Yeah, right, so the only spotthey really had was um, there
was this mexican spot rightthere in between.
It was lamina or la, somethingokay, and now it's.
And they were trying to getthat popping, bro, and they
couldn't get it popping.
But they, you know, I had a guyup in there.
He was doing like latins andand hip-hop, but it just wasn't.
You know, yeah, it wasn'ttranslating, is it?

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
I just feel like when you talk about the hideout, you
talk about 1933.
You actually have to make aplan to go to that place.
That has to be in the plan,right?
That it's, it's out of the way.

Speaker 3 (01:10:31):
Yeah, if you're in the area, because if you think
of rosedale, like you know, likewhat spots do you got?
Yep, you know, I'm not anightlife guy like that.
I pay attention to what's in myyou know immediate vicinity.
But, like I know, there's, likeI know, there's gotta be like
two more spots.
There's like two more likeLatin spots.
They're like restaurants.
Well, what's this one rightover here, el Partar, is it El

(01:10:53):
Partar?

Speaker 1 (01:10:54):
El Partar Ritmo.

Speaker 3 (01:10:56):
Ritmo, ritmo, ritmo is right here, nuestro is right
down the street from Ritmo, sothere's a bunch of little spots
there, but it's all.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
Latin based.
Huh, it's all reggaeton, latin.
It's regulators crowd, if youwill right, it's the Monopoly.
They're all trying it toMonopoly.
They have it figured out.
They have their market.
They have like we were talkingabout they have their demograph,
they know exactly who they are,what they're doing, what
they're offering and they arehoned in on it.

(01:11:23):
Regulator, who's the other DJthat goes over there?
He does pretty big shit too,man.
He has all the truss andeverything.
Oh, technique, yeah, techniqueyeah trust and everything oh uh
technique, yeah, technique, yeah, him and regulator, I think,
are kind of teaming it, yeah,nice.
And then they even, I thinkthey're up farmerville or

(01:11:44):
porterville or something upthere.
They're up there too doing a, aclub up there, man dope, same
kind of monopoly theme all of it, man, yeah, all right.
Hey, we're a minute 12 in queen.
What are you closing thoughts?
I'll put you on the spot.

Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
What are you closing thoughts.

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
Oh yeah, okay, thanks .
Thanks for having me we're goodBye.

Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
That was good, everything was good.
It was knowledgeable, learned alot.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
How do you feel about some of it?

Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
It's a little all over the place.
Djs are a little bit all overthe place.
For sure I mean they need tolearn to be more supportive.
Yeah, more supportive.
I mean there's enough foreverybody.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
There's enough for everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:12:33):
I support everybody.
I share everybody's shit.
I don't Everybody's story Nah.

Speaker 3 (01:12:38):
Nah, I'm more of like a.
You know, I'm coming into thispoint where it's like I just
want to be my natural self, andI noticed that about other
people too.
Like you could tell.
You know, when somebody likeyou could tell, even with me,
like you could tell, like, andit's just natural, like, or like

(01:12:58):
when the artist plays me theirmusic, you know what I mean.
And it's not good, it's notlike good to where you like it.
Oh man, it's dope bro.
It's dope bro, for sure I seeyou doing your thing.
But then you know someone, heplays you something that's
slapping.
You're like, yeah, yourreaction is just different yes
and I want to keep that naturalreaction genuine bingo I want to

(01:13:19):
keep my authenticity, bro.
I don't want to fucking beliking your shit just because
we're friends.
Yeah, you know, I mean like I,I that's my, like I if that's my
choice you got to keepsomething for yourself yeah, I
gotta.
You know I get to choose who'sin my circle.
Yep, you know I mean you don'tget.
You don't get to choose who'sin my circle.
I get to choose who.
I get to choose what I wantedto share.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
It's my channel, yeah it's my page, my channel,
everything don't be mad when I'mnot making it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
Your channel, yeah, you know, I mean like I will
support your stuff when I likestuff.
Yeah, and it's natural.
You know, if I see, you know Imean if I want to support it or
if I got time.
You know, I mean like if yougot an event going on, like if I
can pull up, I'll pull up.
You know, I mean I'll show somelove, but I got stuff going on
too yeah I don't get mad whenpeople don't show up, you know,

(01:14:06):
I understand, I understand.
Like everybody got life, belife.

Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
But um this last weekend right, that's the other
words of wisdom he always useslife be life, oh, life be like I
got that from Babu.

Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
Babu told us that in class.
You know like man life be lifeand we understand because they
constantly have events everyweekend, you know what I mean,
and it's like I'm way over herein Bakersfield so hopping on
that freeway every weekend.
It's not always.

Speaker 1 (01:14:34):
Yeah, it's not ideal.

Speaker 3 (01:14:35):
So, when I can, I can , um, and I I went this last
weekend you know what I mean and, um, I got to link up with a
bunch of a bunch of uh, mypeoples and it was dope to
relink back up with them becausewe miss each other, yeah.
So how could I miss you if I'mhere every weekend?
Yeah, how could I miss you?
So one of my homegirls was likeyo, I got a gig next week.

(01:14:55):
I'm like I'm pulling up.
I'm pulling up, ma I'm pullingup because every time you know,
and then there goes into that,there goes, there's that too.
Like there's people that aremore let's just keep it real.
There's people that are morespecial in your life, bro, I'll
let you know.
You know, I mean, they're notthat special in your life.
Maybe they might be your friend,but they ain't special like,

(01:15:18):
but they're your partner you'relike you're how you know you're
my dog man hold me down, likeyou know.
He asked you like I gotta pullup right so you know, as much as
we want to, we can't show upfor everything and we can't show
so you can't.
So you try to like, pick andchoose.
You know, I'm saying like myhomegirl howled down for me a
lot when I was going through itand she always shows up for me,

(01:15:38):
so I'm making it a point toreciprocate that energy and
that's what I try to do man?
I just try to reciprocate energyif I can you know what I mean.
And it doesn't mean that youdon't want them to be successful
bingo right, just cause I'm notresharing your shit or I'm not
popping up to your shit doesn'tmean I'm hating or I wish bad on

(01:15:59):
you.
No, I just got my own thinggoing too.
We don't have time.

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
No, we don't have time to hate on people to do any
of this.
We're busy.
We're busy.
There's no hate.
There's 16-hour days, there's18-hour days.
We're planning, we're we'relife, be life, and we're dealing
with real life, personal stuffas well, in between those 18
hour work days.
We, you know we're doing thebest we can, but I wish I could

(01:16:23):
show up every time I ain't.
Oh, yeah, yeah, I wish I couldbe there.
Yeah, yeah, all right, ill flowman.
Closing thoughts.

Speaker 3 (01:16:30):
My dude shit man, uh, uh, stay in the gym.
Yeah, keep working.

Speaker 2 (01:16:35):
Yeah, practice, keep working it's that kobe mentality
man, that mamba mentality.
He was showing up at the gym at3 am before practice started at
5 am.
He did his 3 am gig, did his 5am, went home, ate breakfast,
did whatever, went back topractice again at 12 o'clock,
went home, went back to practiceat 3 o'clock, went home, went

(01:16:56):
and did his own end workoutwithout nobody at the end.
Right, and he talks about howthat compounds, right?
You know you compound interest.
Same thing is how bad do youwant it?
Yeah, some people.

Speaker 3 (01:17:11):
Some people want it worse than you know, want it bad
than others that you know, youbecome obsessed.
And when you become that levelof obsessed, that's how you get
to the kobe bryan great, that'show you become mayweather great,
because nothing else mattersyeah you know, and I, I, you
know, I saw that.
That, uh, you know, I was thatguy who was like, because before

(01:17:33):
I was djing, I was the dj, Iwas the mc, I was the producer,
I was doing the graphics, I wasaudio engineering, I was the dj,
I was the mc, I was theproducer, I was doing the
graphics, I was audioengineering, I was freaking
marketing, promoting, I waspressing up the t-shirts.
I bought me a t-shirt press.
Yeah, I was doing everything,trying to learn everything.
But then I saw that interviewwhere, um, you know, mayweather
was getting heckled by somesports announcer and he was like

(01:17:53):
look bro, I can't even take youseriously.
He's like, why not?
He's all because you're a manof many hats, bro.
Like what do you mean?
He's all man you be reportingon basketball basketball
baseball tennis yeah, everythingtalk to me about boxing, bro.
Like I am a master at boxing,you're a master of none and a
man, a man of many hats jack ofall trades, master of none, and
I was like yeah, ever since then, I chose djing and I'm not even

(01:18:19):
doing anything else.

Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
Like it's the bruce lee mentality, man, practice one
kick a thousand times, not athousand kicks one time.
Measure nine times, cut once.
A lot, a lot of wisdom there,you know, absolutely, yeah, man,
I, I guess I I would say.
My closing thoughts are is theDJ community, especially here in

(01:18:44):
town, has got to come together.
Right, there's got to get allthis silliness, all this high
school drama, all this otherstuff.
Understand that we're all doingthe same thing.
Understand that we have lovefor the music.
Understand that we're all indifferent phases of our lives
and we're all at differentplaces in our lives where, hey,

(01:19:06):
we may have to take a 200 gig,right, sometimes, yeah, I don't,
I don't know your moneysituation and I have more
respect for you taking a 200 gigto support your family than I
do, worried about youundercutting somebody or
anything else, and you knowthose people are just not your
people.
Then, right, you know somepeople drive Hyundais, some
people drive Ferraris.

(01:19:26):
Right, I don't hate the Hyundaiowner, I don't hate the Ferrari
owner.
You know it's a personalpreference and they're not for
everybody.
Right, we're all going to haveour different, our different
demographs, right, and you know,I just want everybody to chill.
You know support, you know loveeach other, take care of each
other and get rid of thesilliness man.

(01:19:48):
The silliness is just man.
I'm 44 years old man.
I don't.
You know this, this, this dramaand hidden beef and all this
other stuff.
Man, it's real immature, it'sreal little kid-like man.
I hear you.
And again, man, we're all atdifferent places.
I don't hate the guy that takes$200.
I don't hate the guy that takes$500.

(01:20:09):
I do it out of passion, out oflove, out of yeah, of course we
have to make some money, right?
Like you said, we spent spenttwo thousand dollars on a laptop
.
We spent another three or fourthousand dollars on turntables
controllers mixers speakers, man.
Hey, we're not even talkingabout fucking speakers, man.
And then here's yeah, you knowwhat I'm gonna close out.

(01:20:31):
I'll close out on this.
Man, I don't care if you haveqscs, I don't care if you have
QSCs, I don't care if you haveAltos, I don't care if you have
Mackies.
And you know what Rev one yeah,my old rev one is sitting over
there somewhere.
It's right here, man, a littleblack case, right there, it's my
rev one.
I love that little thing, man,I loved it.
Man, johnny and Marcy are theones that told me to get that
one man.

(01:20:51):
I was like I was looking at some.
My very first I was looking atlike Hercules or something like
their real budget 200 orsomething you know like.
Don't do it, don't do it.
And look, I even say a.
You could jump on a Hercules200 and do just fine too, right,
you could jump on the littlestarlight, the little mini
controller.
You could DJ on an iPad.

(01:21:11):
You can.
You know and that's one of theposts that I did recently is is
the dj isn't defined by theequipment.
Equipment is defined by the dj.
Like, I'm confident that youcan get on a starlight
controller and do better thanman, you should have seen what I
had before.

Speaker 3 (01:21:28):
Man, yeah sure I was.
I was busted and disgusted,throwing little uh backyard jams
and having every trying to geteverybody come over and they all
came too.

Speaker 2 (01:21:37):
They all came, and got on my load, you know, yeah,
but yeah, and a lot of theselisteners, man, a lot, of, a lot
of the people you're playingfor, they don't know djing,
right, like we're talking.
They don't know transitions,they don't know beat matching,
they don't know effects, theydon't know you know bpms and you
know, you know people come upto you with a, with a request,
and you're in the 110s and it'sa 80, right, like, okay, well,

(01:22:00):
I'm going to have to, you know,go back down.
I'm going to have to transitionout, I'm going to have to fade
out, echo down whatever it mayreverb, whatever it may be, to
make that transition and to doit.
And a lot of times they don'teven care, man, they want to
hear the song, they want to hearthe song, they want to hear the
song.
They don't care how magic youare on the turntables,
everything else, man, they don't.
Until you go to Rectify, right,until you go to, you know some

(01:22:22):
of these I would call themconnoisseur events, right, yeah,
where it's DJing, it's allabout DJing, it's not?
about the venue.
It's not about the bar, it'snot about the out.
I don't care what you want tolisten to.
This is my set, you know, andyou're gonna get an education
today.
Absolutely, I'm gonna.
I'm gonna introduce you to somenew shit.
You're gonna listen to some oldshit.
You're gonna hear some shit youdon't like, right?

(01:22:44):
Um, that's where I'm at withall of it, man.
Yes, sir, and I love thispodcast, I love you coming out
showing love and support.

Speaker 3 (01:22:51):
Man, dope that you.
Uh, you know I'm saying yeah,putting yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:56):
All right.
Well, we're at about an hourand a half man, so we're going
to wrap it up.

Speaker 1 (01:23:00):
It's a long one today , brother.
It was good, it was good.

Speaker 2 (01:23:04):
Hate, jealousy, animosity, insecurity all the
things that we DJs have to dealwith with either ourselves,
psychology.

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