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April 17, 2025 77 mins

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On this episode with Neal and Julie...

They dive into the concept of truth in media and politics, unpacking how some narratives—especially around Donald Trump—are shaped not necessarily by facts but by discomfort with his popularity on issues like immigration and trans sports. Neal argues that media outlets like CNN struggle with credibility as they attempt to rebrand, while some Democrats are trying to recalibrate their message based on where Americans actually stand.

The conversation shifts to gang affiliation, exploring what defines membership—like tattoos and behavior—and how that’s interpreted by law enforcement and the public. Julie shares how a mother’s plea at a press conference—“just tell the truth”—resonated with her, especially when it comes to honest reporting around violent crime and gang activity.

Then, Neal and Julie explore public skepticism around space travel, specifically the recent Blue Origin launch featuring celebrities like Katy Perry and Gayle King. They debate whether the flight was real or a high-budget CGI stunt, comparing it to guided hunting trips or superficial accomplishments. They note how spectacle can overshadow substance, especially when the goal is just to claim, “I went to space.”

Later, they reflect on local legal delays in Pocatello, national issues like Letitia James’ actions and Jill Biden’s potential influence over Joe Biden’s presidency. Julie questions whether Joe was ever truly aware of his role late in his term, and both wonder if Kamala Harris was a fallback option rather than a deliberate choice.

The episode ends with speculation on political maneuvering, public accountability, and even the surprising statistic that 10% of Americans don’t sleep in beds—all shared in their signature back-and-forth style that mixes heavy topics with curiosity and humor.

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