May 1, 2025 • 34 mins
Feeling lost in the endless demands of motherhood? You're not alone. When your dreams and identity take a backseat to diapers and dishes, something vital gets buried—but it doesn't have to stay that way.
Kingdom Life Coach Megan Nielsen shares a transformative truth: stepping into your God-given purpose isn't selfish or secondary to motherhood—it actually makes you a better parent. "When I am in my creative flow, doing what God created me to do in addition to motherhood, I'm just a happier and more peaceful mom," Megan reveals. This fulfillment flows directly to your children, showing them what living with purpose and joy looks like.
For mothers with young children, Megan offers practical wisdom about getting honest with yourself and creative with solutions. Taking inventory of your emotional and spiritual reserves, having candid conversations with your spouse, and finding appropriate help aren't luxuries—they're necessities for sustainable motherhood. She challenges the guilt-inducing mindset of "I should be able to do this myself," asking pointedly: "Why should it be just you?"
The discussion delves into distinguishing unhealthy guilt from godly conviction, uncovering your unique calling through journaling and conversation, and recognizing the seasons of motherhood. Megan's framework of negotiables versus non-negotiables provides a clear path for honoring both family commitments and personal calling without comparison to others.
As a bonus, Megan introduces her book "Untangled Faith" and her "beautiful exchange journaling" method that helps women hear God's voice clearly in their decisions. She closes with powerful encouragement from Galatians: "Don't get weary in doing good, because you will reap a harvest at the proper time."
Ready to rediscover yourself beyond motherhood? Grab Megan's free "Busy Mom's Toolkit" and unlock the guilt-free path to pursuing your purpose while raising a thriving family.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey friends, welcome to the Peaceful Mompaneur.
This episode is an interview Idid with Megan Nielsen.
We interviewed her.
I interviewed her for theChristian Mompaneur Summit.
That just happened back inMarch and it was so great that I
needed to share it with you.
So I hope you guys enjoy.
Here we go.
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We have all done it, lostourselves in motherhood.
Your dreams, passions and evenyour identity has taken a
backseat to diapers, dishes anddaily routines.
I know you love being a mom,but deep down you know God has
called you for even more.
Truth is thriving moms raisethriving families.
When you step into yourGod-given purpose, whether in
business, ministry or creativepassion, you're not taking away
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from your family.
You're showing your childrenwhat it looks like to live with
faith, purpose and joy.
Hi, I'm Elise Halcom, host ofthe Christian Mompreneur Summit,
and I'm excited to introduceyou to Megan Nielsen.
She is a dynamic andtransformational Kingdom Life
Coach podcast host and mentordedicated to helping Christian
moms and women entrepreneursanchor their identity in Christ,
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hear God's voice clearly andtake bold, faith-filled action
toward their God-given purpose.
A former school counselorturned visionary entrepreneur,
she now runs a fulfillingcoaching business and hosts the
Kingdom Life Coaching Podcast,where she delivers practical,
life-changing insights toinspire listeners to align their
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lives with God's plan and stepinto freedom and fulfillment.
Hey, megan, thank you so muchfor joining us.
You are so welcome.
I'm excited to be here.
Yes, it's going to be good, solet's just jump right in.
Okay, we're going to bechatting about mompreneurs
stepping into their fullidentity in Christ.
Beyond just a mom, you say thatit's not only okay for moms to
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pursue a calling outside ofmotherhood, but it's actually
good for their children andthemselves and their families.
Can you tell us how it actuallybenefits everyone?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Listen, if mama ain't happy, nobody's happy, right?
So it's kind of a joke andmaybe a stereotype.
But I know for me that when Iam really in my creative flow,
when I'm doing the things thatGod's created me to do, I always
say in addition to motherhood Ihate saying outside of
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motherhood because once you're amom you're always a mom until
the day you take your lastbreath.
So that's our number onepriority.
But I know that when I am notreally paying attention to
investing and really plantingthe seeds of gifts that God's
given me, like taking thosetalents that he's given me and
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you know we read in the gospelsthat that Jesus says invest your
talents in the kingdom,multiply them when I'm not doing
that in things that you knowoutside of motherhood, I
personally I get prettyfrustrated.
I know that I start getting moreangry at my kids quicker.
I start to kind of snap morequickly because I am depleted, I
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am not full, I'm not full ofthe Holy Spirit, I'm not full of
the things that bring me joyand unfortunately my kids often
get the brunt of that.
So I feel like I experience itevery day when I'm fulfilled and
at least investing in the way Ican in that season with my
talents.
I'm just a happier and morepeaceful mom.
That's a period.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yeah, absolutely.
I love that.
Could you give some advice to amom who is in young kids, right
, so that life is a little bitdifferent, right, and they take
up a lot of your time?
So she feels like she wants tostart something or she already
has a business, but she's gotthese tiny people that need her
to keep them alive.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
They do and they grab at her and they never let her
go and they scream her name andthey need her to do all the
things.
I remember those days.
Yes, I am a little ahead of you, that is true.
My youngest is 18 now, so Ifeel like I'm taking your breath
and entering a whole new seasonof motherhood.
But I do remember those daysvery, very clearly and I mean
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the honest truth is it's hard.
It's just plain hard, becausethere are not a lot of margins
in your life to be doing otherthings, but there are margins.
So I think it's easy at theyoung parenting stage to look at
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women that are ahead of you onthe journey and be like, oh well
, I mean, if my kids weredriving themselves to school and
if my kids were off at college,I mean I would have all the
time in the world to do what Ineed to do, but now I can't.
In some ways, that's kind oftrue.
You do have more time, but Ithink what I would say to the
young mama with young kids maybeyou're not young, maybe you
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started a little later, but youhave young kids, so it kind of
doesn't matter is that you haveto just get more creative and
you have to get really focused.
So I think that the creativitypiece comes when you take a very
honest inventory of your daysand an honest inventory of your
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emotional gas tank.
Spiritual gas tank, like you,can only serve from an
overflowing cup really.
So if you are depleted and yourgas tank is empty physically,
spiritually, emotionally youwill have a hard time building
that business and doing thoseother things because you're
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running on fumes.
And so I think the first thingto do is take a very honest look
at like whoa, okay, where am I,where am I feeling really empty
.
And getting that straight.
First, um and I.
I have a feeling that in orderto do that, it will require, um,
an honest look and then somehonest conversations with the
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people around you.
Most likely that would be yourspouse, so if you are married,
then that that hopefully yourhusband is kind of your number
one covenant partner and how canyou share with him what you're
feeling, what you'reexperiencing, where the
depletion is coming from, um,and then the answer to that you
know, like, what you're feeling,what you're experiencing, where
the depletion is coming from,and then the answer to that you
know, like, what's the remedyfor that is going to be one of
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two things Either you need tolet some things go so that you
can kind of do the tasks thatare in front of you with
motherhood, depending on howyour family is arranged and who
can help you, or you say youknow what?
How can we get creative andbring some other people in to
help?
So for me it was having someonethat could cook for me for a
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while.
There was a season in therewhen I had someone coming to
help me clean my house, becauseI had four young kids, two of
whom were internationallyadopted and really had a lot of
trauma and emotional needs, andI was just like I can't keep the
house clean, I can't figure outwhat to cook for dinner, so
there was no way I was going tobe building a business alongside
of that.
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Like what?
So I really had to be honestand be like you know what?
I know that this that seemsself-indulgent.
It's interesting as I say thisbecause I actually have a
coaching client right now who isshe's a teacher, she has three
young kids and she's trying tofigure out how to kind of renew
her spirit and one of the thingsis just like can someone come
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in and clean my house and thebiggest mindset challenge that
we have kind of worked throughis like.
Mindset challenge that we havehave kind of worked through is
like is this indulgent?
I mean, is this do I reallyneed someone to come help me do
this?
I should be able to do this,and I think the honest truth is
like well, I know, but you can't, it's okay, what is this?
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I should be able to.
So you have to get creativewith what.
What it could look like tobring other people in to help
you with some of those thingsthat are really taking a lot of
time and energy, and then havinghonest conversations with like
okay, what could that look likefor us in this season?
So I know I've said a lot ofthings, so jump in.
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How can I clarify or help evenmore?
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Yeah, no, that sounds really good.
It's like knowing exactly whereyou are, who can help you and
what you can do.
So you said you mentioned somemindset shifts.
Let's dive into that, Okay.
So what mindset shifts do youthink that?
Um, you know, this mom needs.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Oh man, okay.
So I think one of the big liesthat is typical for us moms is I
should be able if I were a goodmom, I should be able to do all
of this myself, like I shouldbe able to keep my household
afloat and build this business.
And the question I would say iswhy?
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Why should it be just you?
You know what I mean.
So I think you have to come toterms with, like, what are the
expectations that you have overyourself?
Are those expectationsreasonable?
Are those expectations in linewith what God has told you, what
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he has, how he has created you?
If they are, then go for it.
But if there are someexpectations of I should be able
to and I can't, that are reallykind of depressing you a little
bit and making you feel lessthan or or incapable, I would
say that would be a mindsetshift to tackle and kind of ask
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yourself why do you think that?
And then the secondaryexpectation list is like the
perceived expectations of otherpeople.
So say it's not you and youdon't think I should the the net
.
The next quickest connection ismy husband thinks I should.
My mom thinks I should myneighbor.
The net.
The next quickest connection ismy husband thinks I should, my
mom thinks I should, my neighbor, my sister, these people think
my kids think I should, so thatI feel like the next gap is what
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are you think other people areexpecting of you?
And the only way to find out ifthat's true is is to ask, cause
we make a lot of stories Like.
One of my favorite quotes isfrom Brene Brown, and she's you
know.
One of the things that Ilearned from her long ago was
this idea of the story I'mtelling myself is.
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So when you have this narrativein your mind that's like well,
I should be doing this, or myhusband thinks I should be doing
that, then quickly, you need toask is that true?
Is that actually what heexpects?
Nine times out of 10, he'sgoing to say what?
I never expected that from you,why do you think that?
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And you're like, oh gosh, Idon't know.
I just made up this story, sothat's how.
That's how I used to start or Istill start hard conversations
with people.
Instead of saying, instead ofmaking it about a blame like how
you know, um, I, I'm frustratedbecause you expect this of me.
I would say okay, the story I'mtelling myself is that you
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expect me to have the houseclean and the dinner on the
table.
I'm making some stereotypical1950s scenario, right, but like
I'm I, the story I'm tellingmyself is that you expect this
from me.
Is that true?
Like am I off base here?
And then you have a real honestconversation to find out what's
actually true and what's kindof a vein or perceived
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imagination that just needs togo because that person has just
released you from that thing.
So that was one thing that Ifind really, really helpful in
that mindset piece is gettinglike what's true, what's not
true?
Let's make that real clear,first and foremost.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Yeah, that's perfect.
Early on in my marriage, myhusband told me if there's more
than one way to take somethingin, one way is rude.
It's not that, and so that hasbeen super helpful for me in my
whole life.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Well, it sure sounded kind of rude, right Not?
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Yeah, he's direct.
He's a direct man.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
And I appreciate that .
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
So a lot of moms.
They would have this guiltabout wanting something beyond
raising their children.
What would you say to her?
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Oh man, I'd be like girl, get it together.
No, okay, okay.
So one of my other favoritequotes is this idea of self-care
.
And we don't necessarily needto be I'm not necessarily
talking about self-care, but, Ithink, wanting something in
addition to motherhood.
Some people would call thatlike self-care or taking care of
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yourself.
And there's this woman I thinkher name is Katie Reed, but
anyway she says self-care isactually giving people the best
of you instead of what's left ofyou.
So instead of, I feel like themindset shift here is, instead
of feeling guilty like you'resneaking away and you're taking
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away from the people when you goinvest in yourself, I would
flip that right on its head andsay, actually, when you invest
in yourself, whatever that lookslike, then you are getting
filled up and you're actuallygoing to enter back into those
relationships and into thathouse more fulfilled and giving
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your kids, your husband, thebest of you because you're
actually full.
And so I think that's going tobe kind of different for
everybody.
And I feel like, as Christianwomen, this narrative runs
really deep from you knowdecades of what it's supposed to
be, what you're supposed to beas a Christian mom and what, how
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you're supposed to raise yourkids and all this kind of thing.
So this may be a very nuancedconversation, depending on what
kind of religious context you'recoming out of and what
narrative you has been modeledto you or kind of ingrained in
your mind, like it could getreal deep, like deconstructing
some of those things.
So guilt, um.
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The other thing I would say is Ireally, in my own journey as a
mom, I have found it veryhelpful to concentrate on the
fruit of the spirit and um, andthose passages in scripture
where Paul is saying, likewhatever is true and noble and
good, like think on those things, whatever bears the fruit of
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the spirit kindness, peace,patience, gentleness,
self-control like do thosethings.
And guilt is not on the list.
You know, shame is not on thelist.
In fact, in Galatians 5, whenPaul's talking about the fruit
of the spirit, he's basicallylike this is the good fruit that
we're looking for, and then hehas a whole list of all the
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things that are not kingdomfruit, that's not from the Lord,
and I would say that guilt isthat way.
That's not from the Lord and Iwould say that guilt is is that
way, like if you need toapologize to someone and you
feel kind of a conviction thatthat's not guilt.
That's that's conviction oflike I need to make things right
.
But if you're holding ontosomething that that makes you
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feel guilty, I would questionthe source of of where that's
coming from.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Could you do you have any practical advice on how to
tell if something is guilt or aconviction?
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Gosh, that's good You're making me work for it
today.
I think conviction would be inline with scripture.
I think conviction would be inline with scripture.
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So when Jesus says, love yourneighbor things, if what you're
doing believing is actually indirect opposition to the
teachings of Jesus, then I wouldsay that's conviction, like,
whew, okay, I'm not reallyabiding in the vine, I'm not
connected to Jesus right now,I'm not modeling his life.
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That's conviction.
There's grace for that, alwaysgrace for that.
You can, you, can you know, sayyou're sorry and repent and
just say man, that's I, yeah,okay, I blew it.
That's conviction.
Guilt is something that is, um,that is more.
It's like a heavy, it's shame,it's something that you're
carrying.
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That Jesus is like I died androse again, so you don't have
guilt anymore.
We don't need to feel guiltyfor this, unless you need, I
would say the only way to reallyknow is to ask yourself do I
need to offer grace andforgiveness here, either to
yourself or someone else?
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If the answer is yes, then Iwould go that way.
If it's like, do I need tooffer grace and forgiveness?
No, I'm just holding on toguilt, I'm walking by the flesh.
That's something different.
So I feel like I'm, I feel likeyou're making me sweat even
answering that question, causeI'm like it's nuanced, don't you
think it's hard?
Speaker 1 (17:16):
It's a hard thing, it's a hard one to answer and,
as I like where you went, though, like if, if you get to the
root cause, like the causethat's causing the feeling,
there's a feeling, can feelsimilar, with a lot of feels,
but you know what I mean.
Conviction and guilt can feelsimilar, like in your gut, in
your throat, in your head, butknowing where it's coming from
really will tell you if you arebeing convicted or if you're
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allowing yourself or outsidesources create guilt in your
life.
Um, I like that and and andputting it up against the
scripture, like are you livingin accordance to Christ?
Speaker 2 (17:52):
And that's perfect.
Yeah, and here's the otherthing that just dawned on me as
we were talking.
So I feel like guilt will stuntyou, stop you.
It there will.
We're talking, so I feel likeguilt will stunt you, stop you.
There will be inertia there.
It will stop you from livingout the way God wants you to
live.
Conviction can and shouldpropel you forward, like, ooh,
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this is conviction, we're goingto work through it, we're going
to say the thing that needs tobe said, we're going to
apologize.
If we need to apologize andmove forward to bear more fruit
versus guilt will stop you andactually stunt the fruit, stunt
any kingdom activity.
So I feel like there's adelineation there too.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Yeah, that's good.
I love that.
Okay, all right, so we're goingto shift back into where we
were.
How can a mom who startsdiscovering her God-given
purpose if she feels lost inmotherhood?
Speaker 2 (18:46):
I mean the first thing to do is just find
somebody to talk to.
I know that sounds super simple, but I think it's really common
for moms to self-isolate andstart kind of internalizing and
holding onto a lot of thoughtsand feelings.
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I mean, if your mind isanything like mine, there's like
thousands of words happening inhere in my head that never come
out of my mouth.
Sometimes it's a good thing,it's like a Holy Spirit filter,
it's like you don't need to besaying that, but more often than
not, I think I'm holding on tojust so much angst.
So the first thing I would sayis who can you talk to and share
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?
Like you know, Jesus said, youwill know the truth and the
truth will set you free.
So when you can share the truthand bring it to the light of
day, Okay, Start in a journal.
If you don't have someone thatyou're like, hey, I'm going to
go talk to my husband, my bestfriend, my mentor, my counselor.
Start in a journal.
But you have to figure out howto get it out of your heart and
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your mind first, and then, onceyou get that out, you can start
to say okay, God, will you shedthe light on what's true here?
What, um, what I need to beaware of and what is a lie?
What am I believing?
That is not true.
And you know a lot, of a lot ofwomen in general I don't care
if you've got little kids or notlike we just really need
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clarity.
And the way to get clarity isto start saying these things,
writing these things down,saying them out loud and seeing
huh, how does it feel to saythat Is it true, Is it not true?
And then go from there.
So I am a big proponent ofwriting or speaking things out
loud or in a journal, so thatyou can get perspective.
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That's the first place to start, for sure.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
That's perfect.
That's very practical.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
To just find a friend , tell her all your ideas, tell
your husband write it down, dosomething, tell something, do
something, yes, and then you'llknow the next step from there,
cause that friend might be like,oh Whoa, that is locked Girl, I
have no response, and you'relike, huh, maybe I need to go to
somebody a little moreprofessional that like has some,
some, some mentoring, someguidance in this area?
Sometimes we do need to go tothat next level and and find a
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mentor or, or pay for, invest ina counselor, coach, something
like that to help you get realclear?
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Yep, absolutely so.
Can you share a personal storyor an example of a mom who has
stepped into her calling and sawit bless her family?
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Yes, I love these.
I love these things.
And the cool thing is nowthere's just so many creative
ways to step into your calling,like with technology and all the
resources that we have.
It's very, very cool.
Let me think.
Let me think Honestly.
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The mom that comes to mind firstis the one who was a teacher
and she actually left teachingto go and stay home with her
kids and has now started her own, her own business as a music
teacher.
She was a music teacher in thepublic school system and felt
like in that way, in that avenue, in that medium, through the
public schools, she was gonefrom her kids all the time and
was feeling very disconnected.
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But when she stepped away fromthe traditional school system
and decided to go back home andbe more present at home raising
her kids, she was able to findcreative ways to step back into
music but kind of start her ownthing and really sit in the same
calling Like music.
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Music.
It was the same thing, it wasjust a different way of doing it
and she needed that creativityand that autonomy to feel like
she could thrive at home and inher calling.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
That's beautiful, yeah, and she followed after the
Lord and did what he said andopened some doors.
That's super good.
It's a yeah.
So before we start wrapping upand stuff, do you have any last
words of wisdom or advice forthe Christian when you're
listening right now, Hmm, Iwould say, pay attention to, to
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the times and the seasons.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Um, you know, it's definitely clear in Ecclesiastes
that says there's a season foreverything.
And sometimes when you are, uh,a very passionate I use driven
in the best way Like you've gotideas, you've got things you
want to build and do and put outinto the world.
Don't give up on that, but askGod to help you get really clear
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about the time and the seasonin your life.
And one way that I like tocoach people when they come to
me is it helps to get reallyclear about the negotiables and
the non-negotiables.
So you are in the, when theword mompreneur, it basically
implies you are obviously a momand the preneur part means like
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there's some kind of creativeendeavor, there's some kind of
business you're building.
So, as a mompreneur, I would say, okay, what are the
non-negotiables in your life?
The rocks, as they say, if youknow that analogy.
But the big rocks in the, inthe, you know the glass first
and then all the other ones.
So, like what's not negotiableIf you're married, I would say
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you know and you value and youwant to do your best to stay
married.
That's a non-negotiable.
Like parenting your children.
That's a non-negotiable.
That doesn't mean other peoplecan't come help, you can't have
babysitters or a nanny or like.
So don't hear me, it doesn'tmean it's all you.
It just means like, okay, thisis a primary responsible role,
this is a primary responsiblerole.
These non-negotiables, I don'twant them to change.
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Then you think, okay, what'sanother non-negotiable?
Well, we can't move, we live inthis house, whatever.
Whatever the non-negotiablesare, just be really clear about
that and let those settle intoyour heart.
Then what are the negotiables?
Oh, the way I spend my time andwhat I do in the morning and
what's my morning routine and mynighttime routine.
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Like, there's a lot ofnegotiable things that you can
fiddle with and get creativewith to, to help, um, help you
be a present and, um, justjoyful mom and build your
business.
But those negotiable things aregoing to have to.
You're going to have to getlike I'm going back to the top
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of this, this conversationcreative and honest, and then
start to lay the foundation in away that blesses you and your
family where you are and whatGod is calling your family to,
because I think a lot of us willlook around and be like, oh,
she does it that way and shedoes it that way and I'm doing
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it this way, like why am I sucha mess?
And I would say you can't.
I would caution you like, putthose Holy Spirit blinders on
like a horse would, so thatyou're not comparing yourself to
other people, because God hasyou in your time, your place,
your season, and the only wayyou're going to truly thrive is
to actually stay there and dothe thing in that place.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
All right, that's perfect.
Thank you so much.
Okay, so I hear you have a book, tangent Words.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Untangled Faith.
Can you tell us?
Speaker 1 (26:12):
about it, please.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Yes, oh, my goodness, thank you for asking.
Okay.
So a few years back I waslearning about journaling with
the Lord.
So I talked earlier about howimportant it is to journal or
say something out loud, and Iwas learning from a pastor about
two-way journaling.
He was calling it two-wayjournaling and it was like, hey,
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I pour out my heart and soul onthe paper.
I kind of go, hey, god, theseare the things that I'm tangled
up about, these are thequestions that I have, and then
stop and take a breath and justask Jesus like imagine Jesus and
say, okay, lord, what do youwant, what?
What's your kingdom perspective?
What's the truth that you wantme to know?
What's the Holy Spiritrevelation you want me to know
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about, about these things?
Here's what I'm feeling in thenatural sense Please superimpose
, like your supernatural kingdomwisdom over this to help me get
through it, to help me getwisdom and truth.
So I was practicing that wasreally transformative for me,
and I was implementing that withsome of the women that I was
coaching and they're like, oh mygosh, it's amazing to listen
for the Lord.
And then one morning I woke upand I felt like the Lord had
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downloaded in my spirit, like aframework that's deeper than
okay.
So I journal my thoughts to God, listen for his voice of love
and wisdom.
I write that down.
But then what?
What do you do with that?
So kind of the strategic lifecoach piece of me had this extra
framework of like, oh, he'sasking me to find the truth,
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what, what else could I?
You know?
Like, what do I need to do?
What?
What is he inviting me to havea conversation to wait to pray?
What?
What's the thing, what's theactivation to have a
conversation to wait to pray?
What's the thing, what's theactivation?
So I was asked to speak at anevent and lead women through
this type of journaling.
I call it beautiful exchangejournaling where you're really
asking for Holy Spirit, wisdomto help you kind of move forward
in life.
And I remember sitting down atmy computer and getting ready.
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I was like, oh, wouldn't it becool if I was at this event and
I had a journal to sell?
Right, any mompreneurs like,ooh, what product can I bring
that actually somebody could buyand it could help them in their
life.
So I'm like I will create thisjournal.
So I sat down on my computerand immediately when I sat down
to kind of think through howwould I organize the journal and
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explain it and walk you throughthe.
You know the steps.
I felt like the Holy spirit waslike you have to write a book.
Like you could.
You could publish a journalthat helps people journal with
me, which is that's good.
That's good, of course, but ifyou really want to ground the
whole practice in scripture andbiblical understanding, you have
to write a book.
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And so untangled faith is kindof the precursor book that helps
you know how to hear the voiceof God, Because so many people
are like, okay, that's greatthat you tell me to listen for
God's voice, but how do I knowif it's his voice or my voice?
And so I kind of go throughsome of the challenges of
hearing God's voice Does hespeak to his people?
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If he does speak to his people,what does it sound like?
And then really walk youthrough the steps of this
journaling practice so that whenyou pick up the journal for
yourself you understandtheologically and biblically and
spiritually what's happeningand how Jesus is present through
the whole practice.
So, in a nutshell, that's it.
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It's for tangled up people whowant to get the Holy Spirit,
wisdom, and the practical toolis a journaling that will will
guide you through it.
You don't have to sit there andthink what, what should I write
?
Speaker 1 (29:43):
I got it.
That sounds amazing.
What a shift, though.
Right, you thought you weremaking a journal and now you
were a book.
Like, isn't that like God?
He's like.
Surprise, that's a lot morework.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
I was like no, no, no , the journal's like I just put
some lines and I just make alittle introduction.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
He's like nope, nope, nope.
I don't think so.
Yeah, okay, all right.
So tell everybody what freegift you're offering to everyone
who's watching.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Okay, so I have a free gift for you called the
busy mom's toolkit.
So, um, it's really five simplepractices that you can use for
for rest and renewal, and Icreated it for you specifically,
cause I know those margins arereal tight and so there's some
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practical, helpful tools for youto kind of grab that Holy
Spirit moment, kind of resetyour heart and soul.
So please have that.
And then do you want me to talkabout the course as well?
Yeah, Okay.
So there is a course that I'moffering normally I charge for,
but I'm offering it to you forfree, and it's called what Not
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who.
So if you go to what not whocoursecom, actually use the link
that Elise is going to give you, because that's going to make
it free.
Use her link.
But that what not who is helpsyou unlock your heart message.
So, as I've been building mybusiness, coaching and writing
and things like that, I was sotangled up about my avatar.
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So anybody who's a mompreneur,you know these words who's your
ideal client and what's youravatar and who are you speaking
to?
And it was like you need toknow her name and you need to
know her eye color and what sheeats for lunch and what she
ordered on Amazon.
I was like I don't know exactly.
I just know what I'm supposedto tell her.
And I had this conversation witha woman who said do you feel
like you're supposed to do it aGod given message, or speak to a
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specific person?
And I felt like uncovering themessage first was very, very
helpful for me to get groundedand clear and then activate me
into okay, now who am I speakingto?
So this is kind of a clarifying, foundational course that will
help you really unlock thatmessage that God's put inside of
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you.
If you are a you know a coursecreator or a coach or a content
creator or anything like thatthat you're speaking out a
message, a podcaster, and thenit'll help you activate.
Okay, Well, how how are wegoing to do that?
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
That's perfect.
No, yeah, and so I'll have allthe links to all of these things
that Megan just talked abouther book and the offers in the
description of this.
So, megan, thank you so muchfor being here with us.
You're welcome.
It's my honor and pleasure.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
I love you, mama, so just don't give up.
I, that's the that's the lastthing I'll say is in Galatians
what is it?
Uh, nine six.
Okay, You're gonna have tocheck the address, but it's
basically like don't get wearyin doing good, because you will
reap a harvest at the propertime.
So raising young, young kids isvery hard and don't don't let
yourself get tired, because thework is important.
Figure out who can comealongside you to help kind of
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garden garden with you.
Um, because the, the harvestwill come.
It will come.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Amen, that's beautiful.
Okay, all right.
Well, thank you guys for tuningin with us at the Christian mom
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Before the summit
Hey friends, welcome to the Peaceful Mompaneur.
This episode is an interview Idid with Megan Nielsen.
We interviewed her.
I interviewed her for theChristian Mompaneur Summit.
That just happened back inMarch and it was so great that I
needed to share it with you.
So I hope you guys enjoy.
Here we go.
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We have all done it, lostourselves in motherhood.
Your dreams, passions and evenyour identity has taken a
backseat to diapers, dishes anddaily routines.
I know you love being a mom,but deep down you know God has
called you for even more.
Truth is thriving moms raisethriving families.
When you step into yourGod-given purpose, whether in
business, ministry or creativepassion, you're not taking away
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from your family.
You're showing your childrenwhat it looks like to live with
faith, purpose and joy.
Hi, I'm Elise Halcom, host ofthe Christian Mompreneur Summit,
and I'm excited to introduceyou to Megan Nielsen.
She is a dynamic andtransformational Kingdom Life
Coach podcast host and mentordedicated to helping Christian
moms and women entrepreneursanchor their identity in Christ,
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hear God's voice clearly andtake bold, faith-filled action
toward their God-given purpose.
A former school counselorturned visionary entrepreneur,
she now runs a fulfillingcoaching business and hosts the
Kingdom Life Coaching Podcast,where she delivers practical,
life-changing insights toinspire listeners to align their
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lives with God's plan and stepinto freedom and fulfillment.
Hey, megan, thank you so muchfor joining us.
You are so welcome.
I'm excited to be here.
Yes, it's going to be good, solet's just jump right in.
Okay, we're going to bechatting about mompreneurs
stepping into their fullidentity in Christ.
Beyond just a mom, you say thatit's not only okay for moms to
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pursue a calling outside ofmotherhood, but it's actually
good for their children andthemselves and their families.
Can you tell us how it actuallybenefits everyone?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Listen, if mama ain't happy, nobody's happy, right?
So it's kind of a joke andmaybe a stereotype.
But I know for me that when Iam really in my creative flow,
when I'm doing the things thatGod's created me to do, I always
say in addition to motherhood Ihate saying outside of
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motherhood because once you're amom you're always a mom until
the day you take your lastbreath.
So that's our number onepriority.
But I know that when I am notreally paying attention to
investing and really plantingthe seeds of gifts that God's
given me, like taking thosetalents that he's given me and
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you know we read in the gospelsthat that Jesus says invest your
talents in the kingdom,multiply them when I'm not doing
that in things that you knowoutside of motherhood, I
personally I get prettyfrustrated.
I know that I start getting moreangry at my kids quicker.
I start to kind of snap morequickly because I am depleted, I
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am not full, I'm not full ofthe Holy Spirit, I'm not full of
the things that bring me joyand unfortunately my kids often
get the brunt of that.
So I feel like I experience itevery day when I'm fulfilled and
at least investing in the way Ican in that season with my
talents.
I'm just a happier and morepeaceful mom.
That's a period.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yeah, absolutely.
I love that.
Could you give some advice to amom who is in young kids, right
, so that life is a little bitdifferent, right, and they take
up a lot of your time?
So she feels like she wants tostart something or she already
has a business, but she's gotthese tiny people that need her
to keep them alive.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
They do and they grab at her and they never let her
go and they scream her name andthey need her to do all the
things.
I remember those days.
Yes, I am a little ahead of you, that is true.
My youngest is 18 now, so Ifeel like I'm taking your breath
and entering a whole new seasonof motherhood.
But I do remember those daysvery, very clearly and I mean
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the honest truth is it's hard.
It's just plain hard, becausethere are not a lot of margins
in your life to be doing otherthings, but there are margins.
So I think it's easy at theyoung parenting stage to look at
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women that are ahead of you onthe journey and be like, oh well
, I mean, if my kids weredriving themselves to school and
if my kids were off at college,I mean I would have all the
time in the world to do what Ineed to do, but now I can't.
In some ways, that's kind oftrue.
You do have more time, but Ithink what I would say to the
young mama with young kids maybeyou're not young, maybe you
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started a little later, but youhave young kids, so it kind of
doesn't matter is that you haveto just get more creative and
you have to get really focused.
So I think that the creativitypiece comes when you take a very
honest inventory of your daysand an honest inventory of your
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emotional gas tank.
Spiritual gas tank, like you,can only serve from an
overflowing cup really.
So if you are depleted and yourgas tank is empty physically,
spiritually, emotionally youwill have a hard time building
that business and doing thoseother things because you're
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running on fumes.
And so I think the first thingto do is take a very honest look
at like whoa, okay, where am I,where am I feeling really empty
.
And getting that straight.
First, um and I.
I have a feeling that in orderto do that, it will require, um,
an honest look and then somehonest conversations with the
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people around you.
Most likely that would be yourspouse, so if you are married,
then that that hopefully yourhusband is kind of your number
one covenant partner and how canyou share with him what you're
feeling, what you'reexperiencing, where the
depletion is coming from, um,and then the answer to that you
know, like, what you're feeling,what you're experiencing, where
the depletion is coming from,and then the answer to that you
know, like, what's the remedyfor that is going to be one of
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two things Either you need tolet some things go so that you
can kind of do the tasks thatare in front of you with
motherhood, depending on howyour family is arranged and who
can help you, or you say youknow what?
How can we get creative andbring some other people in to
help?
So for me it was having someonethat could cook for me for a
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while.
There was a season in therewhen I had someone coming to
help me clean my house, becauseI had four young kids, two of
whom were internationallyadopted and really had a lot of
trauma and emotional needs, andI was just like I can't keep the
house clean, I can't figure outwhat to cook for dinner, so
there was no way I was going tobe building a business alongside
of that.
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Like what?
So I really had to be honestand be like you know what?
I know that this that seemsself-indulgent.
It's interesting as I say thisbecause I actually have a
coaching client right now who isshe's a teacher, she has three
young kids and she's trying tofigure out how to kind of renew
her spirit and one of the thingsis just like can someone come
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in and clean my house and thebiggest mindset challenge that
we have kind of worked throughis like.
Mindset challenge that we havehave kind of worked through is
like is this indulgent?
I mean, is this do I reallyneed someone to come help me do
this?
I should be able to do this,and I think the honest truth is
like well, I know, but you can't, it's okay, what is this?
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I should be able to.
So you have to get creativewith what.
What it could look like tobring other people in to help
you with some of those thingsthat are really taking a lot of
time and energy, and then havinghonest conversations with like
okay, what could that look likefor us in this season?
So I know I've said a lot ofthings, so jump in.
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How can I clarify or help evenmore?
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Yeah, no, that sounds really good.
It's like knowing exactly whereyou are, who can help you and
what you can do.
So you said you mentioned somemindset shifts.
Let's dive into that, Okay.
So what mindset shifts do youthink that?
Um, you know, this mom needs.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Oh man, okay.
So I think one of the big liesthat is typical for us moms is I
should be able if I were a goodmom, I should be able to do all
of this myself, like I shouldbe able to keep my household
afloat and build this business.
And the question I would say iswhy?
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Why should it be just you?
You know what I mean.
So I think you have to come toterms with, like, what are the
expectations that you have overyourself?
Are those expectationsreasonable?
Are those expectations in linewith what God has told you, what
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he has, how he has created you?
If they are, then go for it.
But if there are someexpectations of I should be able
to and I can't, that are reallykind of depressing you a little
bit and making you feel lessthan or or incapable, I would
say that would be a mindsetshift to tackle and kind of ask
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yourself why do you think that?
And then the secondaryexpectation list is like the
perceived expectations of otherpeople.
So say it's not you and youdon't think I should the the net
.
The next quickest connection ismy husband thinks I should.
My mom thinks I should myneighbor.
The net.
The next quickest connection ismy husband thinks I should, my
mom thinks I should, my neighbor, my sister, these people think
my kids think I should, so thatI feel like the next gap is what
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are you think other people areexpecting of you?
And the only way to find out ifthat's true is is to ask, cause
we make a lot of stories Like.
One of my favorite quotes isfrom Brene Brown, and she's you
know.
One of the things that Ilearned from her long ago was
this idea of the story I'mtelling myself is.
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So when you have this narrativein your mind that's like well,
I should be doing this, or myhusband thinks I should be doing
that, then quickly, you need toask is that true?
Is that actually what heexpects?
Nine times out of 10, he'sgoing to say what?
I never expected that from you,why do you think that?
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And you're like, oh gosh, Idon't know.
I just made up this story, sothat's how.
That's how I used to start or Istill start hard conversations
with people.
Instead of saying, instead ofmaking it about a blame like how
you know, um, I, I'm frustratedbecause you expect this of me.
I would say okay, the story I'mtelling myself is that you
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expect me to have the houseclean and the dinner on the
table.
I'm making some stereotypical1950s scenario, right, but like
I'm I, the story I'm tellingmyself is that you expect this
from me.
Is that true?
Like am I off base here?
And then you have a real honestconversation to find out what's
actually true and what's kindof a vein or perceived
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imagination that just needs togo because that person has just
released you from that thing.
So that was one thing that Ifind really, really helpful in
that mindset piece is gettinglike what's true, what's not
true?
Let's make that real clear,first and foremost.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Yeah, that's perfect.
Early on in my marriage, myhusband told me if there's more
than one way to take somethingin, one way is rude.
It's not that, and so that hasbeen super helpful for me in my
whole life.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Well, it sure sounded kind of rude, right Not?
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Yeah, he's direct.
He's a direct man.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
And I appreciate that .
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
So a lot of moms.
They would have this guiltabout wanting something beyond
raising their children.
What would you say to her?
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Oh man, I'd be like girl, get it together.
No, okay, okay.
So one of my other favoritequotes is this idea of self-care
.
And we don't necessarily needto be I'm not necessarily
talking about self-care, but, Ithink, wanting something in
addition to motherhood.
Some people would call thatlike self-care or taking care of
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yourself.
And there's this woman I thinkher name is Katie Reed, but
anyway she says self-care isactually giving people the best
of you instead of what's left ofyou.
So instead of, I feel like themindset shift here is, instead
of feeling guilty like you'resneaking away and you're taking
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away from the people when you goinvest in yourself, I would
flip that right on its head andsay, actually, when you invest
in yourself, whatever that lookslike, then you are getting
filled up and you're actuallygoing to enter back into those
relationships and into thathouse more fulfilled and giving
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your kids, your husband, thebest of you because you're
actually full.
And so I think that's going tobe kind of different for
everybody.
And I feel like, as Christianwomen, this narrative runs
really deep from you knowdecades of what it's supposed to
be, what you're supposed to beas a Christian mom and what, how
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you're supposed to raise yourkids and all this kind of thing.
So this may be a very nuancedconversation, depending on what
kind of religious context you'recoming out of and what
narrative you has been modeledto you or kind of ingrained in
your mind, like it could getreal deep, like deconstructing
some of those things.
So guilt, um.
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The other thing I would say is Ireally, in my own journey as a
mom, I have found it veryhelpful to concentrate on the
fruit of the spirit and um, andthose passages in scripture
where Paul is saying, likewhatever is true and noble and
good, like think on those things, whatever bears the fruit of
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the spirit kindness, peace,patience, gentleness,
self-control like do thosethings.
And guilt is not on the list.
You know, shame is not on thelist.
In fact, in Galatians 5, whenPaul's talking about the fruit
of the spirit, he's basicallylike this is the good fruit that
we're looking for, and then hehas a whole list of all the
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things that are not kingdomfruit, that's not from the Lord,
and I would say that guilt isthat way.
That's not from the Lord and Iwould say that guilt is is that
way, like if you need toapologize to someone and you
feel kind of a conviction thatthat's not guilt.
That's that's conviction oflike I need to make things right
.
But if you're holding ontosomething that that makes you
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feel guilty, I would questionthe source of of where that's
coming from.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Could you do you have any practical advice on how to
tell if something is guilt or aconviction?
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Gosh, that's good You're making me work for it
today.
I think conviction would be inline with scripture.
I think conviction would be inline with scripture.
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So when Jesus says, love yourneighbor things, if what you're
doing believing is actually indirect opposition to the
teachings of Jesus, then I wouldsay that's conviction, like,
whew, okay, I'm not reallyabiding in the vine, I'm not
connected to Jesus right now,I'm not modeling his life.
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That's conviction.
There's grace for that, alwaysgrace for that.
You can, you, can you know, sayyou're sorry and repent and
just say man, that's I, yeah,okay, I blew it.
That's conviction.
Guilt is something that is, um,that is more.
It's like a heavy, it's shame,it's something that you're
carrying.
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That Jesus is like I died androse again, so you don't have
guilt anymore.
We don't need to feel guiltyfor this, unless you need, I
would say the only way to reallyknow is to ask yourself do I
need to offer grace andforgiveness here, either to
yourself or someone else?
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If the answer is yes, then Iwould go that way.
If it's like, do I need tooffer grace and forgiveness?
No, I'm just holding on toguilt, I'm walking by the flesh.
That's something different.
So I feel like I'm, I feel likeyou're making me sweat even
answering that question, causeI'm like it's nuanced, don't you
think it's hard?
Speaker 1 (17:16):
It's a hard thing, it's a hard one to answer and,
as I like where you went, though, like if, if you get to the
root cause, like the causethat's causing the feeling,
there's a feeling, can feelsimilar, with a lot of feels,
but you know what I mean.
Conviction and guilt can feelsimilar, like in your gut, in
your throat, in your head, butknowing where it's coming from
really will tell you if you arebeing convicted or if you're
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allowing yourself or outsidesources create guilt in your
life.
Um, I like that and and andputting it up against the
scripture, like are you livingin accordance to Christ?
Speaker 2 (17:52):
And that's perfect.
Yeah, and here's the otherthing that just dawned on me as
we were talking.
So I feel like guilt will stuntyou, stop you.
It there will.
We're talking, so I feel likeguilt will stunt you, stop you.
There will be inertia there.
It will stop you from livingout the way God wants you to
live.
Conviction can and shouldpropel you forward, like, ooh,
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this is conviction, we're goingto work through it, we're going
to say the thing that needs tobe said, we're going to
apologize.
If we need to apologize andmove forward to bear more fruit
versus guilt will stop you andactually stunt the fruit, stunt
any kingdom activity.
So I feel like there's adelineation there too.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Yeah, that's good.
I love that.
Okay, all right, so we're goingto shift back into where we
were.
How can a mom who startsdiscovering her God-given
purpose if she feels lost inmotherhood?
Speaker 2 (18:46):
I mean the first thing to do is just find
somebody to talk to.
I know that sounds super simple, but I think it's really common
for moms to self-isolate andstart kind of internalizing and
holding onto a lot of thoughtsand feelings.
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I mean, if your mind isanything like mine, there's like
thousands of words happening inhere in my head that never come
out of my mouth.
Sometimes it's a good thing,it's like a Holy Spirit filter,
it's like you don't need to besaying that, but more often than
not, I think I'm holding on tojust so much angst.
So the first thing I would sayis who can you talk to and share
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?
Like you know, Jesus said, youwill know the truth and the
truth will set you free.
So when you can share the truthand bring it to the light of
day, Okay, Start in a journal.
If you don't have someone thatyou're like, hey, I'm going to
go talk to my husband, my bestfriend, my mentor, my counselor.
Start in a journal.
But you have to figure out howto get it out of your heart and
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your mind first, and then, onceyou get that out, you can start
to say okay, God, will you shedthe light on what's true here?
What, um, what I need to beaware of and what is a lie?
What am I believing?
That is not true.
And you know a lot, of a lot ofwomen in general I don't care
if you've got little kids or notlike we just really need
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clarity.
And the way to get clarity isto start saying these things,
writing these things down,saying them out loud and seeing
huh, how does it feel to saythat Is it true, Is it not true?
And then go from there.
So I am a big proponent ofwriting or speaking things out
loud or in a journal, so thatyou can get perspective.
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That's the first place to start, for sure.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
That's perfect.
That's very practical.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
To just find a friend , tell her all your ideas, tell
your husband write it down, dosomething, tell something, do
something, yes, and then you'llknow the next step from there,
cause that friend might be like,oh Whoa, that is locked Girl, I
have no response, and you'relike, huh, maybe I need to go to
somebody a little moreprofessional that like has some,
some, some mentoring, someguidance in this area?
Sometimes we do need to go tothat next level and and find a
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mentor or, or pay for, invest ina counselor, coach, something
like that to help you get realclear?
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Yep, absolutely so.
Can you share a personal storyor an example of a mom who has
stepped into her calling and sawit bless her family?
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Yes, I love these.
I love these things.
And the cool thing is nowthere's just so many creative
ways to step into your calling,like with technology and all the
resources that we have.
It's very, very cool.
Let me think.
Let me think Honestly.
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The mom that comes to mind firstis the one who was a teacher
and she actually left teachingto go and stay home with her
kids and has now started her own, her own business as a music
teacher.
She was a music teacher in thepublic school system and felt
like in that way, in that avenue, in that medium, through the
public schools, she was gonefrom her kids all the time and
was feeling very disconnected.
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But when she stepped away fromthe traditional school system
and decided to go back home andbe more present at home raising
her kids, she was able to findcreative ways to step back into
music but kind of start her ownthing and really sit in the same
calling Like music.
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Music.
It was the same thing, it wasjust a different way of doing it
and she needed that creativityand that autonomy to feel like
she could thrive at home and inher calling.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
That's beautiful, yeah, and she followed after the
Lord and did what he said andopened some doors.
That's super good.
It's a yeah.
So before we start wrapping upand stuff, do you have any last
words of wisdom or advice forthe Christian when you're
listening right now, Hmm, Iwould say, pay attention to, to
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the times and the seasons.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Um, you know, it's definitely clear in Ecclesiastes
that says there's a season foreverything.
And sometimes when you are, uh,a very passionate I use driven
in the best way Like you've gotideas, you've got things you
want to build and do and put outinto the world.
Don't give up on that, but askGod to help you get really clear
(23:35):
about the time and the seasonin your life.
And one way that I like tocoach people when they come to
me is it helps to get reallyclear about the negotiables and
the non-negotiables.
So you are in the, when theword mompreneur, it basically
implies you are obviously a momand the preneur part means like
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there's some kind of creativeendeavor, there's some kind of
business you're building.
So, as a mompreneur, I would say, okay, what are the
non-negotiables in your life?
The rocks, as they say, if youknow that analogy.
But the big rocks in the, inthe, you know the glass first
and then all the other ones.
So, like what's not negotiableIf you're married, I would say
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you know and you value and youwant to do your best to stay
married.
That's a non-negotiable.
Like parenting your children.
That's a non-negotiable.
That doesn't mean other peoplecan't come help, you can't have
babysitters or a nanny or like.
So don't hear me, it doesn'tmean it's all you.
It just means like, okay, thisis a primary responsible role,
this is a primary responsiblerole.
These non-negotiables, I don'twant them to change.
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Then you think, okay, what'sanother non-negotiable?
Well, we can't move, we live inthis house, whatever.
Whatever the non-negotiablesare, just be really clear about
that and let those settle intoyour heart.
Then what are the negotiables?
Oh, the way I spend my time andwhat I do in the morning and
what's my morning routine and mynighttime routine.
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Like, there's a lot ofnegotiable things that you can
fiddle with and get creativewith to, to help, um, help you
be a present and, um, justjoyful mom and build your
business.
But those negotiable things aregoing to have to.
You're going to have to getlike I'm going back to the top
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of this, this conversationcreative and honest, and then
start to lay the foundation in away that blesses you and your
family where you are and whatGod is calling your family to,
because I think a lot of us willlook around and be like, oh,
she does it that way and shedoes it that way and I'm doing
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it this way, like why am I sucha mess?
And I would say you can't.
I would caution you like, putthose Holy Spirit blinders on
like a horse would, so thatyou're not comparing yourself to
other people, because God hasyou in your time, your place,
your season, and the only wayyou're going to truly thrive is
to actually stay there and dothe thing in that place.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
All right, that's perfect.
Thank you so much.
Okay, so I hear you have a book, tangent Words.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Untangled Faith.
Can you tell us?
Speaker 1 (26:12):
about it, please.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Yes, oh, my goodness, thank you for asking.
Okay.
So a few years back I waslearning about journaling with
the Lord.
So I talked earlier about howimportant it is to journal or
say something out loud, and Iwas learning from a pastor about
two-way journaling.
He was calling it two-wayjournaling and it was like, hey,
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I pour out my heart and soul onthe paper.
I kind of go, hey, god, theseare the things that I'm tangled
up about, these are thequestions that I have, and then
stop and take a breath and justask Jesus like imagine Jesus and
say, okay, lord, what do youwant, what?
What's your kingdom perspective?
What's the truth that you wantme to know?
What's the Holy Spiritrevelation you want me to know
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about, about these things?
Here's what I'm feeling in thenatural sense Please superimpose
, like your supernatural kingdomwisdom over this to help me get
through it, to help me getwisdom and truth.
So I was practicing that wasreally transformative for me,
and I was implementing that withsome of the women that I was
coaching and they're like, oh mygosh, it's amazing to listen
for the Lord.
And then one morning I woke upand I felt like the Lord had
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downloaded in my spirit, like aframework that's deeper than
okay.
So I journal my thoughts to God, listen for his voice of love
and wisdom.
I write that down.
But then what?
What do you do with that?
So kind of the strategic lifecoach piece of me had this extra
framework of like, oh, he'sasking me to find the truth,
(27:42):
what, what else could I?
You know?
Like, what do I need to do?
What?
What is he inviting me to havea conversation to wait to pray?
What?
What's the thing, what's theactivation to have a
conversation to wait to pray?
What's the thing, what's theactivation?
So I was asked to speak at anevent and lead women through
this type of journaling.
I call it beautiful exchangejournaling where you're really
asking for Holy Spirit, wisdomto help you kind of move forward
in life.
And I remember sitting down atmy computer and getting ready.
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I was like, oh, wouldn't it becool if I was at this event and
I had a journal to sell?
Right, any mompreneurs like,ooh, what product can I bring
that actually somebody could buyand it could help them in their
life.
So I'm like I will create thisjournal.
So I sat down on my computerand immediately when I sat down
to kind of think through howwould I organize the journal and
(28:28):
explain it and walk you throughthe.
You know the steps.
I felt like the Holy spirit waslike you have to write a book.
Like you could.
You could publish a journalthat helps people journal with
me, which is that's good.
That's good, of course, but ifyou really want to ground the
whole practice in scripture andbiblical understanding, you have
to write a book.
(28:48):
And so untangled faith is kindof the precursor book that helps
you know how to hear the voiceof God, Because so many people
are like, okay, that's greatthat you tell me to listen for
God's voice, but how do I knowif it's his voice or my voice?
And so I kind of go throughsome of the challenges of
hearing God's voice Does hespeak to his people?
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If he does speak to his people,what does it sound like?
And then really walk youthrough the steps of this
journaling practice so that whenyou pick up the journal for
yourself you understandtheologically and biblically and
spiritually what's happeningand how Jesus is present through
the whole practice.
So, in a nutshell, that's it.
(29:32):
It's for tangled up people whowant to get the Holy Spirit,
wisdom, and the practical toolis a journaling that will will
guide you through it.
You don't have to sit there andthink what, what should I write
?
Speaker 1 (29:43):
I got it.
That sounds amazing.
What a shift, though.
Right, you thought you weremaking a journal and now you
were a book.
Like, isn't that like God?
He's like.
Surprise, that's a lot morework.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
I was like no, no, no , the journal's like I just put
some lines and I just make alittle introduction.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
He's like nope, nope, nope.
I don't think so.
Yeah, okay, all right.
So tell everybody what freegift you're offering to everyone
who's watching.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Okay, so I have a free gift for you called the
busy mom's toolkit.
So, um, it's really five simplepractices that you can use for
for rest and renewal, and Icreated it for you specifically,
cause I know those margins arereal tight and so there's some
(30:26):
practical, helpful tools for youto kind of grab that Holy
Spirit moment, kind of resetyour heart and soul.
So please have that.
And then do you want me to talkabout the course as well?
Yeah, Okay.
So there is a course that I'moffering normally I charge for,
but I'm offering it to you forfree, and it's called what Not
(30:48):
who.
So if you go to what not whocoursecom, actually use the link
that Elise is going to give you, because that's going to make
it free.
Use her link.
But that what not who is helpsyou unlock your heart message.
So, as I've been building mybusiness, coaching and writing
and things like that, I was sotangled up about my avatar.
(31:13):
So anybody who's a mompreneur,you know these words who's your
ideal client and what's youravatar and who are you speaking
to?
And it was like you need toknow her name and you need to
know her eye color and what sheeats for lunch and what she
ordered on Amazon.
I was like I don't know exactly.
I just know what I'm supposedto tell her.
And I had this conversation witha woman who said do you feel
like you're supposed to do it aGod given message, or speak to a
(31:36):
specific person?
And I felt like uncovering themessage first was very, very
helpful for me to get groundedand clear and then activate me
into okay, now who am I speakingto?
So this is kind of a clarifying, foundational course that will
help you really unlock thatmessage that God's put inside of
(31:57):
you.
If you are a you know a coursecreator or a coach or a content
creator or anything like thatthat you're speaking out a
message, a podcaster, and thenit'll help you activate.
Okay, Well, how how are wegoing to do that?
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
That's perfect.
No, yeah, and so I'll have allthe links to all of these things
that Megan just talked abouther book and the offers in the
description of this.
So, megan, thank you so muchfor being here with us.
You're welcome.
It's my honor and pleasure.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
I love you, mama, so just don't give up.
I, that's the that's the lastthing I'll say is in Galatians
what is it?
Uh, nine six.
Okay, You're gonna have tocheck the address, but it's
basically like don't get wearyin doing good, because you will
reap a harvest at the propertime.
So raising young, young kids isvery hard and don't don't let
yourself get tired, because thework is important.
Figure out who can comealongside you to help kind of
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garden garden with you.
Um, because the, the harvestwill come.
It will come.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Amen, that's beautiful.
Okay, all right.
Well, thank you guys for tuningin with us at the Christian mom
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