The People's AI: The Decentralized AI Podcast
Who will own the future of AI? The giants of Big Tech? Maybe. But what if the people could own AI, not the Big Tech oligarchs? This is the promise of Decentralized AI. And this is the podcast for in-depth conversations on topics like decentralized data markets, on-chain AI agents, decentralized AI compute (DePIN), AI DAOs, and crypto + AI. From host Jeff Wilser, veteran tech journalist (from WIRED to TIME to CoinDesk), host of the "AI-Curious" podcast, and lead producer of Consensus' "AI Summit." Season 2, presented by Gensyn.
Episodes
Should AI be regulated by governments, left to the courts, or guided by open markets and open source? That question is at the heart of this thoughtful, civil debate between two leaders shaping the future of AI policy.
In this episode of The People’s AI, we’re joined by Justin Hendrix (Tech Policy Press) and Jeff Amico (Gensyn) for a wide-ranging conversation on how — and by whom — artificial intelligence should be governed. We explo...
What if we could trust AI results the way we trust cryptographic signatures? That’s the radical promise behind Gensyn’s work—building verifiable, decentralized AI infrastructure from the ground up.
We kick off Season 2 of The People’s AI with Ben Fielding and Harry Grieve, the co-founders of Gensyn. We hear how their origin story began in a London warehouse—right before COVID lockdown—and how their mission has evolved from federated...
Why can ChatGPT write your emails, but robots still can’t fold your laundry? The answer isn’t hardware—it’s data.
On today's episode of THE PEOPLE'S AI, presented by Vana, we speak with Bayley Wang, co-founder of PrismaX, a startup building the “base layer” for real-world robotics.
PrismaX connects user-generated video data—like clips of people folding sheets or restocking shelves—with robotics companies that are desperate...
What if your personal data wasn’t being harvested — but instead valued, tokenized, and returned to you?
That’s the radical shift proposed by Vana, a platform building decentralized data marketplaces that aim to give users economic power over their own data.
In this episode of "The People's AI," we speak with Art Abal, Vana’s co-founder, to unpack how today’s data economy works behind the scenes — and why it’s fundamen...
What’s real in Crypto + AI—and what’s just noise? In this episode of THE PEOPLE'S AI podcast, presented by Vana, we sat down with two top investors to unpack the actual state of decentralized AI. These are the people who see all the decks, hear all the pitches, and are funding what they believe is the future of the space. So what’s legit, what’s frothy, and where’s it all headed?
First, we talk with Alex Odagiu, Investment Dire...
In this episode of The People’s AI, presented by Vana, we explore one of the most promising frontiers in artificial intelligence: federated learning.
We speak with Nic Lane, co-founder and Chief Scientific Officer of Flower Labs and a professor at the University of Cambridge, to unpack why decentralized AI may not only be more ethical—but more effective—than centralized systems.
We dive into:
•Why centralized ...
In this episode of The People’s AI, presented by Vana, we dive into one of the most compelling intersections in tech today: AI agents and crypto infrastructure. Our guest is Bryan Pellegrino, co-founder and CEO of LayerZero Labs. His journey is anything but ordinary—former top-ranked professional poker player, model builder for MLB teams alongside Billy Beane, and now a key architect of decentralized AI infrastructure.
We explore th...
In this episode of The People’s AI, presented by Vana, we sit down with Jason Zhao, co-founder of Story Protocol, one of the most ambitious projects at the intersection of AI, blockchain, and intellectual property.
We explore how Story Protocol aims to reinvent the $61 trillion global IP economy by transforming IP into a liquid, programmable, and creator-friendly asset class. From Hollywood screenplays to DNA datasets, from fashion ...
In this episode of The People’s AI, presented by Vana, we dive deep into the evolution of decentralized AI with Ramesh Raskar, Associate Professor at the MIT Media Lab and advisor to Vana.
We explore why decentralized AI isn’t a rival to centralized AI—but a natural next step. Ramesh outlines a five-phase framework for the evolution of intelligent systems, moving from the “mainframe era” to the emerging “web of AI agents.” Along the...
In this episode of The People’s AI, presented by Vana, we explore the frontier of Data DAOs — decentralized projects that empower people to take control of their data and get rewarded when it’s used to train AI.
Our data is everywhere—sleep tracked by Oura rings, heart rates logged by smartwatches, comments posted on Reddit, even the layout of our homes as mapped by Roombas. Until now, most of that data has been hoovered up by tech ...
DeFi promised to make finance more accessible, but has it lived up to that vision? In this episode of The People’s AI, presented by Vana, we explore how AI agents are reshaping decentralized finance (DeFi) and whether they can simplify complex yield farming, crypto investing, and smart contracts for everyday users.
We’re joined by Renç Korzay, co-founder of Giza, a project at the forefront of AI-powered DeFi automation. We discuss h...
Welcome to 2025's "deAI Summer." Decentralized AI is emerging as one of the most significant shifts in artificial intelligence and blockchain. In this episode of The People’s AI, presented by Vana, we sit down with Jake Brukhman, founder and CEO of CoinFund, to explore the growing intersection of AI and Web3, the challenges of open-source AI, and what it means for AI investing and crypto-backed AI startups.
We break d...
AI is nothing without data. It doesn’t exist without it. It doesn’t get good without good data. It doesn’t get great without great data.
Right now, two major problems are colliding in the world of AI:
1. Data transparency – Most AI companies don’t disclose where they get their training data, leading to lawsuits and ethical concerns over how models are built.
2. Data scarcity – AI companies are running out of high-quality data. Much of...
Many are calling 2025 the "Year of the AI Agents." And AI Agents are one of the most exciting frontiers of Decentralized AI, or Crypto X AI. These autonomous systems, powered by blockchain and smart contracts, are changing the way we think about digital interactions, finance, and even governance. In this episode of The People’s AI, presented by Vana, we dive deep into the rapidly evolving world of AI agents with two exper...
In our debut episode of The People’s AI: The Decentralized AI Podcast, Presented by Vana, we dive into one of the most critical questions of the AI era: Who should own AI? As artificial intelligence becomes increasingly embedded in daily life, its ownership and governance will shape the future. Big Tech dominates AI development today, but a growing movement believes AI should be decentralized, open, and user-owned.
We speak with Ann...
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