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May 22, 2025 47 mins

Joanna Penn is an award-winning author, New York Times and USA Today bestseller, and host of The Creative Penn podcast. With experience spanning both fiction (under J.F. Penn) and non-fiction, Joanna has built a sustainable writing business over nearly two decades. After leaving her IT consultant career in 2011, she's created multiple income streams from her writing and writing-adjacent activities while publishing over 50 books. Her latest fiction release is "Death Valley," and she's currently working on the 4th edition of "Successful Self-Publishing."

In this episode:

  • Joanna's journey from IT consultant to full-time author
  • How her definition of success evolved over time
  • Multiple income streams for both fiction and non-fiction authors
  • Strategies for making a living with writing beyond just book sales
  • The importance of building an email list from day one
  • Her "50 books by 50" milestone and creating a body of work
  • Discovery writing vs. plotting approaches
  • Using AI tools to enhance creativity and productivity
  • The "great splintering" of indie publishing business models
  • Creating premium products like special editions for higher income


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Book Recommendations:

  • "Successful Self-Publishing" (4th Edition coming soon): https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0F66QLTL9?&linkCode=ll1&tag=pubperf-20&linkId=400c65572fa1761b41f901ed6233057c&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl
  • "Death Valley" - Her latest thriller: https://jfpenn.com/deathvalley
  • "How to Write a Novel" : https://www.amazon.com/dp/1915425093?&linkCode=ll1&tag=pubperf-20&linkId=400c65572fa1761b41f901ed6233057c&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl


Connect with Joanna Penn:

  • Fiction website: https://jfpenn.com/
  • Non-fiction website: https://www.thecreativepenn.com/
  • The Creative Penn Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-creative-penn-podcast-for-writers/id309426367
  • Books and Travel Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/books-and-travel/id1454367912


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