Vito vs Forrest Recap, USA/Russia dual, What's wrong with wrestling media?, USAW suspensions | Ep. 9 - The Quad Pod

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Oh my goodness, big move Monday.Lookout a way to end the
tournament. So what's happening people?
Welcome back to the Quad Pod, sponsored by Adidas Wrestling
and Poseidon Strength. Happy to be back with these
gentlemen. Robbie Austin.
Kevin, I'm Holmes, just in case you guys forgot, but we're going

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to be here every single week. Yeah.
Just in case you want to call meWilkes Guy.
That's why I actually wore half of my name today, so that, you
know, people can actually, you know, if you want to talk a
little shit, you can actually use my name since my T-shirt is
how people love to, to designatewho I am.
This is This is Ryan, though, not Larry.
Yeah, very true, very true. Hands not as deadly, not as

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deadly, not even close. And my and, and my belt is is
very it's a lot smaller. The WBC replica belt belt that I
have, it's a lot tinier. It's somewhere in here in this
room. But no good to be back.
Good to be talking with these gentlemen.
We've got some really cool stuffto get to.
Obviously today as we're recording this on on Monday.

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You guys are listening to this on Tuesday we had vetoes
wrestling match. So now the men veto versus Jax
Forrest. I should say Veto versus Jax
Forrest happened today. So now the men's men's team is
complete. We had a couple other things
happen throughout the previous week.
We'll talk about USA versus Russia.

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We're going to dig into this singlet conversation because
there's been a lot of people that have been talking about
traditional singlets and you know, which singlets are better,
Whatever, whatever, But we'll get into a lot of really good
stuff today. But before we start, we got to
wish Robbie a happy birthday. You know, he probably hates
that, but it is Robbie's birthday.
So happy birthday to Robbie. We're not going to sing to him

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or anything. We're not, we're not bringing
any cakes or anything like that.But we are going to wish that
man a happy birthday because he does a great job getting us info
as well as bringing his his hot takes and his curse words on the
show. But let's start.
Let's, let's do our weigh in first.
And my weigh in isn't a good one.
Normally I'm trying to give someprops to someone.

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This time I I can't let this onego by and it's USA Wrestling's
bracketing system that's fuckinggarbage.
We've talked about it before, sothis isn't the first time that
I've talked about it, but you would think that with each event
it would get better, but it doesn't.

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And they basically just pulled redundancy from the jaws of life
and tried to create something new so that everybody had to go
to them for match updates and whatever else.
When it was, it was basically like a if it's not broken, don't

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fix it. Kind of a kind of a issue, I
guess. We have track wrestling, we have
flow, both of those. You know what, regardless how
you feel about those, I mean, I understand that Track
Wrestling's software is maybe a little antiquated, it's a little
slow sometimes it logs you out, whatever else, but it is pretty
reliable. The Flow one, I was literally

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with Flow when it was created and did some of the testing on
it when our engineers created that and it was kind of cool.
People didn't really like the sliding brackets or anything
else. But as time went on, it became
more and more reliable, being able to get updates and, and get
text messages and stuff. It worked and it served its

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purpose, right? And you were able to click in
right to watching the, the matches from the brackets and
everything else. Now you're not getting any of, I
mean, you're getting the results, you're getting the
brackets, you're getting the stuff that you need, but it's
way harder than what it needs tobe.
And it's like, how can we consider ourselves to how can we

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kind of fix our mouths, even saythat we deserve top bidding and
prime time match times and eventtimes, but like we can't even
get our results stuff fixed. Like that's the that's like one
O 1. So again, I know we've been down
this road before, but with with Fargo going on right now and you

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know, things happening at the one of the biggest tournaments
of the year, you need reliable software.
You need to be able to look up brackets.
You need to be able to see when some of these top kids are
coming up because these bracketsare enormous and you need to
have a bracketing software that you can rely on.
So seen a lot of rants about these different things and Bosch

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said something about, you know, Flow should have stream that
just shows like the top kids andwhatever else.
They obviously used to have thatand called it Flowzone, but I
think that people didn't use that as much because you could
pick and choose the matches thatyou want on Flow to be in a
grid. Now with the bracket software

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being what it is, I feel like that should be brought back
because Flowzone would serve itspurpose now that they don't have
that capability of having push notifications and everything
else for our biggest event. So again, probably not the the
best way to start the show, but damn, like we, we deserve

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better. I mean, not for nothing, we had
better with flow and track when they were running bracketing
software. But even, you know, when we were
in previous shows, we were trying to look up stuff from the
trials and the open. It was really hard to get to.
And then you would click resultsand you get like a list of
results. And it's just not even conducive

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to how you want to look things up.
It makes it way harder. So do you want us to report on
things or don't you? Right.
And obviously, you know, for people that have paid attention
to Willie's rant talked about how he couldn't get the list of
rosters and, and stuff like thatfrom different states.
So it just goes into that even more of if you want wrestling

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media to promote these things, which we'll obviously get into
when we talk USA, Russia. But if you want USA, if you want
wrestling media to promote thesethings, give us reliable
software and reliable ways to doit.
So that is my thought over to Robbie.
Let you kind of take it away, birthday boy.

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Yeah, but you hit it nail on thehead that bracketing software is
hot garbage and trying to go through, you know, such a huge
event like Fargo trying to trackanybody is difficult when you
have like 256 person brackets. It's insane.
Like it that's hard to do on a good on a good program, let

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alone a shit program. But on the note of Fargo, just
want to give a shout out to all the college coaches who make the
trek out there, not only for recruiting, but to help out and
give back to their their state teams and help out with
coaching. I know a lot of guys who still
do that. Even if they don't coach in in
the state that they are coachingfor, they still get back to

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their home States and and help them out.
So I think that's a really cool feature about our sport is that,
and with D1 coaches, D2D3 and AIA coaches all making the truck
out there to help out the next generation of wrestlers, I think
it's pretty cool. Yeah, yeah.
And I, I remember like years agowhen, when I saw college coaches
coaching some of their state teams and there were some people

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that had an issue with it cuz they're like, isn't that like a
legal recruiting, whatever, whatever.
And it's just like, this is whatit is.
Guys like they're giving back totheir state and their other
position. While it may, there may be some
overlap, whatever, they're giving back to the state.
So this is what it is. Austin, on to you.

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Quick shout out to the U20 team.Just had Pan Ams this past
weekend in I think it was Peru. Pretty successful weekend I
think. Women won 6 golds, 2 silver and
two bronzes. Greco Roman had five golds.
They had a silver and a bronze. A few DN, PS and boys freestyle

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obviously as we expected as usually do, dominated 8 out of
10 gold and 10 weight classes. The other two were bronze.
Luke Stanich, Lehigh wrestler won the Golden Boot award which
seems like a soccer player MVP award but it's not.
We figured out and wrestling I guess.
Don't know why it's not the golden singlet or something cool

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like that wrestling related but maybe they call them boots in
other countries and we're just ignorant Americans.
I don't know, but Congrats. I forget.
I forget why I remember asking that a couple years ago, but.
Yeah, I'm sure there's a reason behind it, but just sounds silly
coming from, you know how we don't really call them boots or
anything around here. So yeah, that's my quick weigh
in. You know, Luke Stanish killing
it for Lehigh going to be a going to be a beast here this

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year. One of those boots, one of those
non-us golds, was won by Kate Brown, pit wrestler for Canada.
So none of them are coming back to the States, just one of them
slightly north of the border. Yeah, there we go.
Yeah, that's pretty awesome. Every year they they always kind

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of clean up men's freestyle. I mean, all, all of the teams
usually kind of clean up at Pan Am's and do really well.
So I guess no surprise. But it's really awesome to see
how they continue to to do well year after year.
Kevin. Just one, one more note on that.
It's always funny when you watchsome of the clips and it's like

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some dude who should not be out there against some kid who's
like getting recruited to Oklahoma State and just takes
him apart limb from limb. Anyway, Yeah, shout out to my
dude Matt Stencil. He is going to be in the Claw
draft coming up, so I'm excited to watch him wrestle again.
He was one of my favorite Central Michigan guys to watch

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compete for years. So I texted him the other day.
I'm pumped to watch him wrestle and he's he's pretty excited
too. So shout out to to Maddie
Stencil. Good times.
Fire up champs. Five time Max champ there.
You go 5 timer. Before we had a five timer.
That's the truth. So yeah, quick weigh in.

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Shout out to all those guys. USA Wrestling do better.
So let's move on to Veto versus Forest.
And last week, each one of us picked Vito Rujao.
How? Crazy I rescinded that pic.
Yeah, I mean, how crazy is it topick a world champion a multiple

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time, you know, world medalist insane against the kids still in
high school who can, who could basically double up in wrestle
in Fargo right now if he felt like it.
Now he's. Got to go to Budapest though.
Now he gets to go to Budapest. I mean, PJ Duke was like, hell
yeah, youngest kid on the seniorWorld Team.

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And Jax Faras was like, not so fast.
I would say hold my beer, but he's not hold, hold my Capri Sun
is is what what happens there with those children.
So yeah, I mean two straight matches.
Vito did not look himself in those matches specifically match

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1, he looked exhausted and maybehe's still not 100% on the
injury side of things, but he looked absolutely exhausted and
gassed. It didn't look like an injury
type of thing in to me at least.Like he gets taken down with
five seconds left and just had to peel himself off the edge of

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the mat And it was like, he's not 100% either in health when
it comes to the injury or he's not 100% in cardio and
preparedness. I it was very hard to tell which
was which, but he didn't look good.
He certainly didn't. I mean, he came out firing like

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we figured he would because he does that in most of his
matches. He's not a wait around a wait
and see kind of a guy and got the early takedown and match was
3/2 until there was 5 seconds left and that's where Jax
Forrest was able to move his feet, score a go behind and
score the winning takedown. Kevin, what were your thoughts

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on the match? I mean, it's just super
impressive what you get from from such a young kid in Jax.
And I mean, we've seen him beat top level guys.
We've seen him be right there. But man, I did not expect Vito
to with the delay, right, with the, the, the extra time to show
up and, and really just look notlike you said, prepared.

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Ultimately, though, I mean, at the end of the day, like clearly
Jack's forest is our best representative of 61 kilograms,
right? Like we're going to have a
stronger team with him on it then with Vito.
So I'm, I'm excited. I mean, the, the team in general
is great. Obviously the future of of the
men's freestyle scene is appearsto be in pretty decent hands for

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the time being. And, and this is just year one
of the quad, you know. So I think it's, it's going to
be fun to see what the next couple years do and how guys
heal and come back. And you know what those those
those next couple years world trials are going to look like.
Yeah. And Jax look bigger too.

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Certainly looks like he's put onsome size and look bigger.
I would say, you know, you talked about the quad, Kevin.
I would say he's not going to beat 57 again like he was this
past Olympics. He'll probably be at 60.
Five, he's got a frame to put a lot.
Of weight, broad shoulders. He does.
He's definitely got got some space for it.

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Yeah, so I mean, he looked good.He, you know, match 2 came out
firing takedown leg lace. It's four O immediately.
That was the other thing. It didn't seem like, and this is
completely tangential to the match.
It didn't seem like Flo had multiple cameras on that mat
because every time something would happen, their camera was

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right behind where Jack's dad and and, and well, his coaches
were. And they if they stood up, you
couldn't see the match anymore. And it was like, change the
camera angle. But I they didn't change the
camera angle at all in match 2 and maybe I missed it in match

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one or maybe it just didn't comeinto play or whatever else.
Like I I honestly had to go backand and rewatch some different
highlights and stuff because I was working on something else
when the match started. But it it was just like super
weird. Like why is there not multicam
on mat 1? You would think that Multicam

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would be set up at on mat one again.
I feel like I have kind of a little bit of insight into what
they've done in the past since Iwas part of it and there was
just like no multicam. So that was the weird part for
me at least when it came to likewatching the matches, you missed
some of the stuff because when action happened, those those

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coaches stood up and you know, Zoe as well as Jack's dad stood
up and you were completely blind.
You had no idea what was happening.
All you could hear was the commentary, but Robbie your your
thoughts on the match, or at least the series I should say.
Yeah, I mean, I think we all came into last week when we made
our pick saying, you know, we don't know what we're going to

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see from Vito. You know, what kind of shape is
he in? Is he healthy?
And I think we saw, you know, wedon't know if he's healthy or
not, but he certainly wasn't in shape yet.
When you have a almost a full year layoff, that'll do it.
My biggest take away was how poorly he defended on the edge
because he's usually so good andso disciplined on the edge and,

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and in the danger zone. And today, like the the last
takedown in the first match and,and it is a couple positions
where normally you'd feel prettycomfortable with him getting
back to the center and evading giving up any points.
He, you know, he, he lost those positions and just wasn't,
wasn't what we expected to see from him.

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Jax wrestled fantastic. I mean, he he had a great
strategy, did exactly what he needed to do, feel very
confident with him as our Rep and I think he's going to do
great. Yeah, Austin, your thoughts?
I think I saw Willie tweet something out about maybe the
difference was just kind of Matttime.

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And I think that would be more obvious too, with Jax, you know,
being in the freestyle scene quite a lot in the past calendar
year and and then some, right, And Vito not really be able to
wrestle because he was injured. And then this I I think that
obviously showed here and and itmade kind of Vito look, I don't
want to use the term old, but helooked older than Jacks.

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You know, he was kind of trying to wrestle, I think, and maybe
it was a conditioning injury factor too.
It looked like he was kind of picking spots more instead of
letting stuff come to him. I like to, it reminds me of when
I was, you know, helping out coaching as a, you know, late
20s, early 30s in my older, older years against these
college guys. You have to wrestle smarter, not
harder, right? So I feel like that's kind of

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what Vito was maybe doing. And maybe that's all he was
limited to doing too, if. If that makes sense.
Yeah, I, I wonder if he was 100%right like we talked about and I
had said he looked exhausted, but like, again, was it injury
or, or, or was it conditioning? And he kept trying to go back to
that arm drag. And I mean, Vito was wisely

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wrestling in match one where Jaxwould fire off a shot and then
instead of Vito, Vito coming back up to his feet, he's
waiting, right. And because he knew Jax wanted
to fire off that re attack. So there was some really good
things tactically from Vito in match one.
Things were just better tactically from Jax in match

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one. And the the Matt time no was
pretty spot on right where we'veseen Jax wrestle a good bit.
We haven't seen Vito outside of that video that was posted and
he stayed away from final X. You know, Yanni was wrestling
there. I'm pretty sure people expected
to see him there, but he wasn't there.

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And so we didn't really know what to expect and like how he
was going to be coming out. And it was that was the the
surprising part Robbie, you you nailed it with on the edge.
He he's usually able to move hisfeet and and circle back in and
be strong there. It just didn't look like like

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Vito. He was definitely Biden some
time and trying to make sure that he kept it close to have
the energy to score late if he needed to.
And I'm I'm sure Jax knew that going into match 2, which is why
he came out and scored early andwent up four O and put Vito on

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the defensive. It was a completely against
Vito's game plan because Vito wanted to hand fight more and he
spent more time in the hand fight in match 2 because he he
didn't have the energy to score.And when he did score, he scored
late, but it just wasn't enough,right?
And he ends up losing 7 two. And after losing 4 three in in

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the first match, Kevin, I thought that's all you had
something to say too. Yeah, my, I have a new theory.
I think that these high school kids just don't have any actual
adult stressors in their life. They're just high school kids.
So what the Well, they got to worry about going to prom and
like, what summer job they're going to have.
They don't have adult problems, you know, weighing them down,

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just sitting on their chest. Yeah, that's I think what
happened to Vito and Yanni. I will say this, it it's not,
it's, it's not a good look for Cornell to have both of their
top guys lose 2 guys who are basically brand new on the
senior scene. You know, it made me think would

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would Vito and Yanni be the nextguys to look to make a change
with their training? I know that they're obviously
tight with Grey and they've beenthere forever.
And you know, I'd obviously hateto see that happen, right?
But we've seen Kyle Dake leave Cornell and ultimately he left
because of his own reasons, but also he had David Taylor, who he

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worked out with a ton. But we've seen guys, you know,
move. We've seen Jordan Burrows leave
Nebraska and head to Penn, right?
So like we've seen guys leave their home gyms and all the
surroundings that they were usedto, to head to a new coaches and
new partners and change things up.

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I wonder if that's a thought forYanni and Vito right now.
Maybe not Vito as much as Yanni with Vito potentially being more
of a health issue, but with Yanni, it could be, you know,
and and Speaking of health, Yanni posting that he got out of

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the hospital the other day was very random.
It's like, whoa, hope he's OK, right?
Like hopefully nothing is is wrong but like.
Tell him not to go to Wegmans, yeah.
Stay away from Wegmans. Apparently there's there's bad
stuff in Wegmans. Don't tell Scott Green I said
that. That felt that post felt a
little bit like when LeBron showed up in the press

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conference and his, like, hand was wrapped up and he was like,
my hand's broken. And it's like, what?
Why didn't no one, why didn't anyone mention this in the first
six games? You know, Yeah.
Anyway, yeah, I was like, interesting.
But yeah, no. What?
One of the quick point. I don't think it's necessarily
an indictment on Cornell if theydo choose to leave.

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I think we've seen a lot of times people various programs
just to get a change of scenery,training partners, philosophies.
I mean, that's, you know, it's, it's not a bad thing.
Yeah, yeah. And I completely agree with
that. You know my my point was more so
of you've been doing the same thing for at this point. 10 plus

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years. 10 years, right? Like it's the same as as Dake
was doing the same thing for as long as he was.
Same thing with Burroughs doing the same thing for as long as he
was. So guys, they they look for a
change of scenery, they move around.
I mean, same thing with Kyle Snyder, right?
Like these guys are moving around and going to different

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places to train. So if if changing things up is
on the horizon for these guys, Iwouldn't be surprised after you
know, and most guys start to look at changing things after
results that they don't like. And again, that's.
Not earlier in the in the quad too.
Exactly right. Like, and again, that's not a

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it's not a shot at Cornell or Gray or, or anything else.
I think they have a phenomenal program.
I think they do really well withall their guys.
Gray obviously does a very good job at, you know, and this
again, this is a shot at protecting his guys and keeping
them out of harm's way. We see that during the the folk
style season. So he takes very good care of
his guys and make sure that theyaren't out there and putting

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themselves in harm's way. So he does a good job at that.
But we've seen guys, like I said, leave and have a change of
change of heart about their their home gym and and where
they're based at and need some new coaching or anything else.
So I would be surprised if we didn't see maybe a move happen

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with Yanni and Vito. I'd obviously, you know,
understand if they didn't, but it is it is something that, you
know, I feel like could be on the horizon for these guys.
Any thoughts on that guys? Or they team up and coach to
Binghamton Bearcats, both New York legends taking over

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program. Yeah, I mean kind of a tangent,
but let's let's talk about that.I know we we talked about that
in our in our text group. Austin, you brought that up of
like, does Binghamton kind of goto that Oklahoma State route and
bankroll one of these younger guys to be their coach?

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I mean, I don't think it's goingto be Yanni or Vito, but like
would there be somebody like a Burroughs that they want to go
after or like Dake, right, that they'd want to go after?
Austin, you brought it up. So what?
What are your thoughts on Binghamton doing something like
that? Yeah.
I mean it has again, it's one ofthose things how invested is the

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administration? I, I think they are pretty
invested, but do they have the financial capital I guess is the
better question that Oklahoma State does you know they have.
Yeah, definitely not. You know Binghamton?
They have. They got Baldwin, yeah.
Billy Baldwin doesn't have oil money.
Not quite a billionaire. He's, he's worth a few million,
you know. Yeah, Paycom money is not
rolling in for Binghamton. Have you seen Backdraft?

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Have you seen the movie that came out 32 years ago?
Great movie. Residuals.
Maybe residuals come. On.
Yeah, that's right. But yeah, I mean, I think they
could do something like that. It wouldn't obviously wouldn't
be a Jordan Burroughs, David Taylor kind of name.
But you know, I think they couldget someone young and energetic
in there and promise them this, promise them that here's a full

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staff you can have and boom, youcan run wild with a with a team
like Binghamton. I think it could be a good
start. But, you know, I, I think that's
his job for, you know, a Kyle Dake, if he, if he's interested
in that, I think Kyle Dake mightwant something bigger, you know,
you know, on that Iowa, Penn State kind of level, but, you
know, give it back to his home state.
Like you mentioned before with the with the Fargo coaches, you

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know, starting there, something small or building a sleeping
giant out of out of the Binghamton.
A small program would be really cool to to see.
Has Dake ever mentioned wanting to get any coaching?
I don't feel like that's something he's spoken on too
much. I don't.
Think so. I don't think he's.
There's rumors that appear to it, but.
Yeah, I, I don't know that I remember right.

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I don't remember seeing or hearing Kyle talk about life
after wrestling, mostly because he continues to get younger
every day. Daycare.
Daycare is his plan. Yeah, yeah, I think, I think
it's Barney Romper room, some Saturday morning cartoons as he.
Continues. Yeah, awesome cartoon, by the

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way, if you have Disney Plus, you can watch that, which we do.
So there's that. But no, I I would, you know, I
think something that we can get in maybe next show that we
haven't spoken about yet is the Rev share or of everything and
the investments that are going to come from that or lack of

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investments that are going to come from that and what what can
happen there. And I think Binghamton is not in
the mix of Rev share, right, Butwe'll find out what kind of
investment they want to make nowthat they have an open head
coaching position. But let's get back on track.
A little tangent. Now that we have all our World

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Team set, which team as we look,men's freestyle, women's
freestyle Greco, and I'm pretty sure I know the answer to this,
but which team do you guys feel most confident in going into
worlds? And Robbie, I'm going to start
with you on that. Yeah, I'd start with me trying

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to pull that list back up. Probably the women's team,
honestly, I feel like we have a lot more vets, a lot more battle
tested people because we have a really young men's freestyle
team. And I mean, full transparency,
we had to, to look up the, the Greco team because they were

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very quiet about their procedures this year and kind of
did their own thing and, and there wasn't a lot of noise made
about it. So we had to go back and double
check and make sure we were actually right on, on who was
even on the world scene this year.
So I mean, there's always a couple Greco guys that we feel
good about and, you know, think we have a good chance.
But until we make a huge investment in it, we're not

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going to ever really be in the position to to feel gung ho
about our Greco team. Agreed, Kevin, your thoughts?
I was just thinking about, I don't even know who the coach of
the Greco team is. Who is that?
Is it Ken Chertal? No, that's the AdvoCare team.

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Oh, that's right. Yeah, cuz I just remember, I
mean they they had the guy in there.
Had Lynn lived there for a long time?
Yeah, yeah, from Nebraska. And then he was gone.
And then I was like, I don't know what happened.
That was a long time ago, anyway.
Perhaps. That's the the head coach.

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There we go. I mean, the women's team is
probably the right answer. I I'm, I'm excited about the
men's team just because it is soyoung, right?
We're still going to get SpencerLee, you know, on his warpath to
I mean, he, you know, probably still super pissed that he took
second in the Olympics, right? Like, so he's going to be going

(30:05):
out there looking to to beat some people up, which is
exciting. The he's finally on the team.
I'm excited for that. Kyle Schneider better do
something so. Watch what he's saying there.
Yeah, yeah. But no, I mean, it's going to
be, it's going to be exciting. Wyatt Hendrickson obviously
getting out there and doing his thing, that's going to be fun.

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So I, I mean, yeah, the, the most confidence I have is
probably in the women's team and, and even there's, you know,
there's still some, some young ladies on that team getting
their first chance at it or crack at it too.
So it'll be, it'll be interesting in general to see
what we get again in this first year, the Quad.
I think you have to be really excited about the youth though,

(30:47):
because I mean, we, we talked about it on the men's side with
Audrey Jimenez on on the women'sside, like we have a lot of
really young first time World Team members that, you know,
are, are poised to potentially make some, some big noise this
year. So it's going to be interesting
to see if they can handle the big spotlight.
Yeah, I'm, I'm with you guys. I, I'm excited for the men's

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team. Just out of the 10 weights,
there were two, maybe 3 where wekind of knew had a pretty good
idea who the Rep was going to be, you know, probably Spencer
and Snyder. But outside of that, you know,
it was, it wasn't a full given of who's going to be our guy at
each weight. So I'm interested to see a if

(31:30):
those guys are going to be the guys moving forward here, if you
know, if they have good results in Budapest coming up here next
week and you know, at the World Championships, obviously coming
home with a medal would be a great deal, especially for some
of these first time guys that haven't really seen that senior
level exposure, right? Yeah, there's the only two guys
that have been on a World Team before are Zahid and Kyle

(31:52):
Snyder. That's it.
You know, obviously Spencer madethe Olympic team and he's
Olympic silver medalist, but he's never been on a World Team.
This is his first time. So the rest of the team, you
know, we've now have Jacks todaythat made the team real Woods
first time, PJ Duke first time. I think the biggest shoes to

(32:14):
fill is it's, it's a, it's DavidCarr mostly because of how well
we've done at 74 as well as 79. But Jordan Burroughs really
staked, you know, stake his claim to 74 early on.
He moved up to 79 obviously as time went on, but 74 was on lock

(32:34):
for a good bid. And then Kyle Dake stepped in
there and also held it down, right.
So I, I, I am excited to see the, the men's team, obviously
because of all these guys that have they're, they're, they're
getting their first time at worlds.
But the women's team is nails, honestly, like, even though meat

(32:58):
is not on the team, like even though it's it's Glaude that is,
that is there and not our Olympic champion, that's still a
murderer's row from 65 to 76 forwomen's right?
Like, and and then, you know, you take in 57 and 59 where
Helen and Jakara are at, where we've got that veteran presence

(33:19):
as well, right? So like there's some very highly
touted youngsters that we have with Kennedy blades as well as
Kylie Welker and then the the vets with Jakara and and Helen.
But then you have that that youth with, you know, with
Audrey Jimenez and Felicity Taylor that are that are also on
the team on the Greco side of things.

(33:41):
You know, to echo what you guys have said, it's it's tough.
You, you know, I've, I've been able to watch Kamal Bay since he
was a young high school kid at OPRF, you know, had a chance to
meet his dad, meet his family, be around him for a very long

(34:01):
time. The the fan in me wants to see
him on the podium so badly because of having a close
relationship with him. Same with Colton Schultz, right?
I've known him as well as Coltonand and Kamal for a very, very
long time. And the fan in me obviously

(34:24):
wants to see Team USA reco do really well.
But when, you know, we all have specific guys we get, you know,
closer with. And those two guys I've known
for a very long time and you have like the utmost confidence
in them to go out and win medals.
And they just haven't been able to do it.

(34:45):
And it's like, man, when, when are these guys going to be able
to breakthrough? And I'm hopeful that it's this
year because I feel like even though Colton Schultz just
graduated from college and he's presumably still a young guy,
he's been on this team so long that he is now a veteran on the
Greco team. And we need these guys to start

(35:06):
producing. I want to see more from our
Greco team as everybody else does, and I'm hopeful that they
can. They also have obviously that
element of vets and youngsters, right?
Jaden Rainey at 55, as well as Ellis Coleman at 63, being the
youngster and the vet. So I think when it comes to our

(35:28):
Greco side, I'm just hopeful, right?
Like every single year, you're just like, can we, can we get
one guy on the podium? Can we get one guy?
We've been in these medal matches, can we get one guy that
does it? So again, I'm, I'm hopeful that
Kamal Bay with everything that he's had to go through with the
suspensions and stuff can finally breakthrough.

(35:49):
Obviously, I obviously want to see every single one of these
guys on the podium from the freestyle side.
Tons of confidence in these guysbecause we've seen every single
one of them in the NCAA finals outside of our high schoolers,
You know, each one of them is anNCA finalist, if not champion.
So it's like there's a lot of accolades here.

(36:12):
And then they've all also done it on the world stage as well,
just not on the senior level stage.
So hopefully they can, you know,get the damn job done to be
completely honest, because they're they're up against it.
There's a good amount of talent from around the world.
It's going to be coming. So we'll see how, how these guys

(36:33):
can take up the mantle and, and do what they need to do.
But I'm pretty excited about themen's team that we have and you
know, and, and then excited to see how these these youngsters
do, you know, Jacks at 61 and PJDuke at 70.
Very excited to see how they do on the world stage and as well
as how PJ Duke does balancing all the tournaments.

(36:54):
You know, if he does do all three, if he only does 2, I
don't, I don't remember seeing if he's going to do 2 of the
three or whatever else. But that's it's, it's an
impressive feat. It certainly is.
So we'll see what happens. And his paper route.
And his. Paper route, yeah.
He's he's, you know, got to be home before the streetlights.
Come on a curfew. You're gonna get you.

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Any other thoughts on our World Team?
Men's freestyle, Women's freestyle Greco confidence
levels? How you guys feel?
It just seems like you guys kindof hit it.
It seems like a weird team without a Burroughs, without a
Dake or without a David Taylor. It just it almost seems for like

(37:39):
a different countries team is out there.
It just seems weird without having those guys in there,
which it's crazy how successfully were for such a
long time, right? They're finally over this hump
and it's like we got all these youth people in here.
It's it's. It's really fun to see, I think.
Yeah, I mean, it speaks to that,to the youth.
Yeah. I'm really excited to see,

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because think about this, right?We went into the Olympics with a
lot of confidence. Yeah.
And then it didn't go great. I, I'm really interested to see
what this group, how they perform, what they're able to
do. I, I mean, I'm confident in the
sense that like, can all these guys do it?
Have, you know, they won age group World Championships and

(38:24):
all these accolades before? Yeah.
But I I'm, it's funny because I feel like I'm going into this
with less confidence than I wentinto the Olympics with, but also
more kind of optimism that like,shit, it could actually go
really well though still. So we'll see.
Yeah, I agree with that. I agree with that.

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So let's move from looking at our Team USA, our World Teamers
and move to this USA versus Russia match that not for
nothing, had zero traction up until I feel like the last 30
seconds ago, right? Like it was just like, hey, the
you know, and the only reason why we knew about it was because

(39:07):
of Seth Gross saying, sorry, I haven't been posting content.
I've been at the OTC preparing for this.
And then we're going to go and we're going to do AUSA versus
Russia mass and everybody's like, you're going to what?
Like where the where the hell did that come from?
And. Well, they hit on it like March
right before NCAA's and then nothing.

(39:29):
Came out and, and that was like the that was The thing is Kozak
was saying it was released in March, but we haven't heard
anything about it since then. And then everybody, you know,
went flow for not promoting and whatever, whatever.
That's a conversation for a completely different year, but

(39:49):
the no one knew about it. So like even though it was
announced in in March, no one knew what the rosters were, no
one knew that it was even happening.
But I feel like if anyone did drop the ball on the marketing
side of it, I hate the pile on. But again, it's USA wrestling.

(40:11):
Like we have our US guys going to other places and wrestling.
I understand that Fargo is happening.
I understand that we have, you know, World Team trials, things
like that. But like.
After our team was set, the onlyother thing that we were waiting
for was for 61 to be completed and Fargo things.

(40:32):
Could have been. Happening.
Yeah, and we have the ranking series beforehand, which is, you
know why they're going to be in Budapest in the 1st place where
the where the duel's going to be.
And we don't even have the vast majority of our team wrestling
there. Who would benefit from ranking
series points? So I mean, we're sending guys to
wrestle there that if they get points, that doesn't affect our

(40:56):
team. I mean, it it can, I guess,
negatively affect other wrestlers and their seating, but
it doesn't help us. Like we're sending Lille it All
at 57, Seth Gross and Jack's Forest at 61, nobody at 65,
Brandon Cannon at 70, David Carrat 74, Levi Haines at 79.

(41:18):
Who else we got Valencia at 86, Trent Hidely AT92JA, JILO in 97
and Trent Hilgir at 25 and and big Meech.
So like great for them to get some experience, but was that 3
three guys from the the World Team so and.
Then the guys that are wrestlingin this Rusher match, I mean,

(41:41):
obviously none of them are goingto be our world teamers, but
like they deserve some hype and some pub like up and you know,
like we're just now finding out about it.
And I get it like it's not a match that was put together by
USA, but USA Wrestling had to beinvolved to some degree in order

(42:02):
for Get. Visas and stuff.
Yeah, in order for USA to even be represented there, don't know
if it's going to be free or or pay-per-view.
Whatever it is, I will throw thelink, the links that are out
there below for everyone that islistening and watching so that
you guys can log on there and, and, and see the the details of

(42:23):
it. But it's going to be on
pwlworld.tv. So that's who's putting it on on
July 21st and it'll be on at 1:00 PM Eastern Time is when
this is going to be happening, so.
Next Monday. Next Monday is when was when

(42:44):
it's going down. So like, yeah, I mean, make sure
that you're kind of paying attention to it.
But like, I think this is awesome.
I hope that we have more things like this.
My hope is that things like RAF and Claw and, you know, and
obviously RAF has the money to pull in foreign wrestlers as

(43:05):
they're already pulling in Bajrang to wrestle Yanni as that
match was just announced. But like man, like I wish that
we would have known about it or at least that it was promoted.
But like, I guess it kind of is what it is.
What do you guys make of, and maybe we should talk more about
promotion of, of events and things like that.

(43:27):
What do you guys make of, you know, the promotion of this of,
of sports, right? Like of, of different sports and
how it works? And then when you look at
wrestling and you see how it works, you're like, well, what
the hell? What do you guys make of that?
Kevin, I'm going to come to you first because I know you pay
attention to other sports and other things.

(43:48):
I do I, it's funny it, it just seems, it seems like, you know,
I, I think we just get in our own way, right?
And I understand that there are contracts with certain things
and there I understand that there is like there are, are,
there's behind the scenes stuff that makes it tough to maybe

(44:09):
promote something a certain way versus, you know, your own
stuff. I'm, I'm not blind to how you
know, the, the money works and how all that functions.
What I like about our system here, right, is that we can
promote whatever we want, right?And like, it's funny because
we're talking about, oh man, we could have, you know, it would

(44:29):
have been nice to promote this. We still got a week, you know,
it's going on at 1:00 PM in the afternoon on a Monday.
So that'll be fun. Pretty much the same as USA
wrestling timing. So it's.
Not too different. Yeah, exactly.
I would literally like. Right when you have your Monday
meeting is when this is going tobe happening.
That's literally the time that it's going on.
Honestly I wish it was during a Monday meeting.

(44:50):
I literally watched Jakara Winchester win her World
championship from a meeting at my old job on my phone under the
table. I got kicked out of a kicked out
of a meeting when when Burroughslost in Rio because I yelled
some obscenities during the meeting.
There was a like our back to school week.

(45:10):
Yeah, that was that was not, notgood.
Yeah, yeah, I'm going to be watching.
Yeah, I'll have to figure that out.
But anyway, the, the, the real answer to the question, I mean,
like, it's just we got to get out of each other's way, right?
It's like you were talking aboutearlier about coaches, college

(45:32):
coaches and they're being at Fargo and helping out these
teams. And of course, somebody has to
say, oh, isn't this illegal recruiting?
It's like, God damn it, it's just giving back to the sport.
At some point it, it, you have to just get, get rid of all the,
the, the bullshit out there. I mean, is it going to still
exist? Certainly.
Is there certain. Is there some extent to where

(45:54):
like helping out those kids is, is going to help them
potentially with recruiting? Sure is.
But at the end of the day, like it's, it's got to be the real
reason, right? The real reason we got into this
in the 1st place is because we love the sport and we want to,
you know, give back, right? I did it for my money.
Yeah, right. The multiple bags of money.

(46:16):
Right, they're all nickels, but no.
And ultimately it's like it's, it's just giving back to the
sport. And there's going to be
different areas where some outlets can can provide more
coverage than others. And I get it.
I'm going to try to not be too upset about what they can do.
I just like being able to talk about whatever the hell we want

(46:37):
to talk about and trying to promote it and trying to do it
for the right reasons. And, and, you know, I, I like to
think that a lot of, yeah, I like to think that a lot of the
people wrestling media feel thatway too.
And some people go about it in different ways.
But ultimately, like going back to this particular event, like

(46:58):
I'm excited for it. I feel like once there was
actually like stuff being put out there about where and when
it's going to take place. And what was that like 2 days
ago? And as soon as it came out, like
we were all talking about it andnow we're promoting it.
So, you know, we're doing the right things here.
And I talked about Claw earlier and we've talked about, you
know, real American freestyle, right?

(47:20):
Like I want to have one of thosebeers.
I haven't had one of those beersyet.
I don't even know if they have them in Michigan, but.
I don't know if I'd trust a HulkHogan beard.
I, I, I trusted to do something weird, so we'll see what that
is. But no, at the end of the day, I
mean, you know, I'm going to worry about what what I can
promote and, and and provide andjust keep doing it from the

(47:44):
goodness of my heart. And that's what I hope most of
the other people do too. Yeah, and if at any point we do
get any of these real American beers, we'll drink them right
here on the show for the people that are new to us.
We did drink on our last show, so who's to say that we can't do
it now? That was that was also whiskey

(48:05):
too. But like, honestly, when it
comes to promotion and I'll, I'll, I'll dive a little bit
into what I've been a part of and I've talked about it a
couple of times tonight on the show or today on the show, I
should say promoting when, when I was at flow was always
different, right? And, and obviously I can't talk

(48:28):
about all of it, but promoting different events is, is it was
always different, right? And we'd have meetings and say,
what are we going to discuss this week?
What content do we have? What's coming out this week?
What events do we want to hype? Obviously, this is this, this is
that. Look at numbers, stuff like that
too. And that's how you decide how

(48:49):
you're going to promote certain things.
That's how you decide how you'regoing to go about the those
promotions, right? Is is you look at the analytics,
you look at the entry list, you see what stars are there.
You look at where you want to, you know, devote your time as
you would with anything else. The thing that sucks in in
wrestling, and I think Willie really hit the nail on the head
with his rant, is what we're seeing is a lot of people don't

(49:15):
want to be involved unless they have some sort of there's some
sort of benefit for them. And that's the part that sucks
because we are too small to havethat mindset of, you know, and
like I said, LO does they do promote a lot of things.
There are some things that they don't promote.

(49:38):
They couldn't, I guess they couldn't promote this for
whatever reasons, not going to hold them accountable for
anything. It's not it's not their event.
So it truly isn't their job to promote these things.
However, in wrestling media, when you want the sport to grow
and you want eyes on the sport no matter what and all and, and
to be completely honest, if you promote other events that have

(50:03):
USA guys or girls in it. When you have an event on your
own platform, all that does is elevate your own event and your
platform. Because if you're creating stars
when they're not on your platform, they will be even
bigger stars when they are. And that is the mindset for me

(50:24):
when I'm promoting anything, when I'm promoting this show or
when I'm promoting any other show that I'm on or any other
show that I have coming up down the line, I will make sure to
promote the platform as we all do, right?
Like full transparency, I'm the one posting things for us on
social media and I will immediately switch to my own

(50:44):
account and retweet it or repostit or whatever else.
Anytime that that any of you guys post anything, I'm making
sure to repost it because we area team and that's how that shit
works. We want to make sure that
everyone sees it. And it's not just so that oh,
it's a look at me thing. It's because we want our
information, our content out there.
That's how you should be marketing certain things.

(51:06):
And it sucks in the sport because as I said, and as Willie
said in in his rant, people onlywant to be involved when there
is a benefit to them. And that's the part that sucks.
And it goes back to my weigh in of USA Wrestling wanted to have
their own bracketing software sothat they were getting the brunt

(51:27):
of the engagement and the brunt of people on their website.
But it's like, if you're going to do that, make sure you're
doing it right. So I am hopeful that we see more
promotion come in from some of these bigger networks.
But like people also have to realize that in wrestling, we're

(51:49):
not even together. As wrestling media and Kevin
alluded to it last week, we don't all get along in wrestling
media, all for various reasons. We don't all get along.
And that's the the shitty part because we can't bury the
hatchet in certain aspects and be like let's promote the sport

(52:13):
instead of infighting and arguing whatever else.
Let's just promote the sport instead of being condescending
and talking to people like we are the toughest men and women
in the world on social media. It's just stupid.
So at some point we have to get over that as well as talking to

(52:34):
fans like they're complete morons, because even though
somebody might have a shitty take, it's still his shitty
take. It is what it is.
Bring that person into the tent instead of trying to kick them
out of it. So yeah, that's, that's my,
that's my rant when it comes to marketing.
Austin, Robbie. Any thoughts on marketing for
wrestling events? Yeah, just don't be shitty

(52:57):
people. Just it's not that hard to do.
I mean, we're all in it for the greater good of the sport and
this this something that I hit on that Scotty Scotty Sentez was
talking about is the, you know, that that wrestling media and
concert creator should get down to the NWACA conference 90.
Probably 9899% of us don't do this as a full time job.

(53:21):
This is 100% a side side thing that we're doing because we love
the sport and we want to, you know, do it see the sport from a
different lens, give back to it.You know, whatever the case is,
you know, I started doing this stuff when I stopped coaching
because I wanted to stay in the sport.
It's, it's just a way to, to stay involved and, and give back
to something that's clearly donea lot for each of us.

(53:44):
But you could probably count on one hand, maybe 2, how many
people make their living solely off of being media for this
sport. So it's, it's important that we
support each other and, and thatwe're able to, you know,
advocate for each other and, andput each other's content out and

(54:04):
feel comfortable with that. You know, there's, there's
people I don't get along with inthe sport.
And you know, most of it doesn'thave anything to do with media
stuff. But you know, it doesn't mean I
can't speak positively about things that are going on from,
from their, their company or I can't, you know, be supportive
of, of the wrestlers that are being showcased on one of their

(54:26):
events or anything like that. I mean, you can, you can still
support the wrestlers and, and still get the content out there
and still, you know, try to be apositive voice regardless of
your feelings of other people inthe media.
Yeah, and we're, I don't want people to think that we're
beating around the Bush because we're speaking about one
specific company. No, we're not just speaking
about flow. I'll be completely transparent

(54:47):
and honest. I worked there for seven years.
Not just talking about having good or bad relationships with
people that I used to work with.There's people in the sport of
wrestling who I don't get along with or people, there are a good
amount of people outside of thiscircle of friends I have here
that I that I get along with really well.

(55:08):
I mean Nick Costco first round draft pick love that.
Dude I love Costco. If I ever had the chance to work
with Costco, I'm jumping on thatchance immediately because he's
awesome and he knows he knows his shit and he does a really
good job. But yeah.
There's always positive dude. Always, always a positive guy,
always a positive guy and he knows his shit when he when it
comes to just sports too, not just not just wrestling.

(55:29):
But no, we're not, like I said, we're not beating around the
Bush because we're trying to notspeak on good or bad
relationships with people that flow or people at any other
organization. It's it's general because there
are people within this wrestlingbubble that we just don't get
along with and that people don'tget along with in general.

(55:49):
We don't see eye to eye on a lotof stuff, but a lot of people
can't bury the hatchet and just be like, let's promote the
sport. Everyone wants to point fingers
and say this and say that when it comes to getting the
attention and I don't care. I want the sport to grow you.
Know it's it's a microcosm of society.
I mean, and and in general, likeI like most of the people in
wrestling media. I don't want it to make it seem

(56:10):
like there's this half of us that suck and half of us that
are awesome, right? That's the majority.
Majority is great. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But like anything, I mean, it's,it's just a grouping of people
and, and this is just one different area.
We're running the NWCA thing too.
Like I am in recruiting. It would benefit me to be there.
I can't, I have to, I have to goto my actual job.

(56:33):
And like, I would love for that,like ideally to become a, a big
thing and a networking thing that like the idea behind it, I
think is fantastic. The the execution of it I think
has been whack luster. If one of them wants to come
watch my kids for a week, I'll go down there.
All right, Yeah, I'm excited to see what what Scotty can do

(56:54):
there. I want to.
I want to try to be more involved as well.
He's already showing more than I've ever seen.
Yeah. So it's already on a, on a good,
on a good side for me. Austin, your thoughts on all
this? Yeah, I agree with everything
you guys were saying. Just another thing to throw out
there. What is stopping all the major

(57:15):
play, you know, flow, Intermat, you know, even some of us and
NWCA like get all the media people together on Zoom calls
every week, every other week. And you know, it's like, hey,
let's, we're A-Team here, let's get this together.
I know you guys are some of you guys are more involved than
others, but let's go to the samepage here.
You know, what do we want our sport to look like from the
outside? How do we want to promote sport

(57:36):
better? What can we do to improve XY and
Z? You know, I think get everyone
together on a Zoom call in person, whatever it is, and you
know, let's lay it all out thereand say, hey, we need XY and Z
to be successful USA wrestling here's what you can do flow,
here's what you can do Internet,here's what you can do.
And you know, just I think honesty is going to go a long
way in situations like this. Will whatever happen?

(57:58):
Probably not, you know, but it'sworth a shot getting everyone
together and put differences aside and say, hey, we're sport.
We're obviously getting pushed aside by baseball and basketball
or football and basketball and NCA level.
Let's let's try and revert that and you'll save, save the
program a little bit, save the spoil a little bit better.
The last thing I'll say is that too many people want to be the

(58:19):
guy and the source. And it's just like there's room
for that when you realize that it's better to be accurate and
stead, and this is this is completely my my journalism hat
and this is how I go about things.
It's better to be accurate than it is to be quick.
And the first person to do it. The reason Adam Schefter is able

(58:41):
to be accurate and the first person is because he literally
works with the leagues that he'sreporting on, right?
Like these people have are entrenched in these things, like
they are supposed to report themas well.
In wrestling, there's a lot of cloak and dagger.
There's a lot of things that happened behind the scenes and
you got to know this person and be having a relationship with

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this person. Like there's so much that goes
on, right? Like there's a ton, but so many
people are worried about being the guy and being the source and
being this and being that to thepoint where if we actually got
general information, I feel likeit would go back to everyone
trying to be first. But when you do look at how

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other information comes out fromother sports, you know, when
Adam Schefter put something out or, or Dan Orlovsky or any of
these guys on ESPN, it says, perthis person, they're not afraid
to give credit to that person. But like, literally I did the
interview with and again, I'm not looking for credit.

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This is this is just an example.I did the interview with Aaron
Brooks where Aaron literally says he's going up to 97 and
people talk about it on their shows and they don't even credit
where that information came from.
It's like guys like, if, if thatcame from flow, I'm going to
credit that it came from you guys.
You guys did the work. You deserve the credit.
But like, it's just, it's just funny how like we're so beholden

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to like being the guy. We don't want to give props to
certain people unless we have good relationships and anything
else. So that's the wild thing for me
and something that I could neverwrap my brain around, whether I
was at flow or inter mad or or or, you know, just in my 15
years of being a journalist. It's just like people are always

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so hesitant to give credit whereit's due a lot of the time
because they have an axe to grind.
Anyway, let's move to next topic.
Let's let's let's talk about this USA wrestling suspension
list. And I think it got traction
because of Carter Sorachi getting, what was it, the Jesse

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Owens male athlete of the year award and it being posted to
Twitter last week and Beau Bartlett's wife quote tweeting
and somebody responding with thelist of suspensions.
First and foremost, seeing this list of suspensions and I, I

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honestly didn't realize that it was this public.
I honestly forgot that it was this public.
When you click on this list and you see everyone is on it for
sexual misconduct, you're like, what the hell, First of all.
Secondly, carving on this list, it's an interim membership

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suspension because there's a, there must be some sort of
investigation going on. That's what I've gathered,
right? Like there's, there was an
accusation. They're looking into things.
You go on this list, that's the long and short of it.
Doesn't mean he's guilty, doesn't mean he's not.
Means that right now this is what's happening and they have
to check it out. It's basically a probation until

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there's a finding of some sort, positive or negative.
Yes, I mean, when you guys, I mean, like I said, my first
thought when I clicked on it, I was like, oh, oh, that Nope,
that's gross. Robbie, your your thoughts on on
this list and how the how the process kind of goes, because I

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feel like no one knew he was on this list.
No one knew anyone was really onthis list for the most part that
this list existed because there's not like they put out
anything for anyone to even knowthat it's even happening.
Right. What what are your thoughts?

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I guess we're, we're going to continue this process, talk of
this suspension list. So thoughts on the list as well
as how we find out things in in this sport Again, we're we're
going back to kind of like I said, this process and marketing
thing, but the fact that these things aren't more, I mean, it's
readily available, but they're not saying, hey, this is what's

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happening in our sport. What are your thoughts on that?
Well. I think there's a few points
with that one. When you look up these lists,
there is the list that Carter's on, which is the temporary
suspensions. There is a active suspension
list and then a permanently banned list.

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If you look at the active suspension list in the
permanently banned list, it willmake you murderous or the number
of people that are on there for sexual misconduct.
And it's just a reminder that, you know, for for all the maybe
negative things that that we hear about Safe sport not doing

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enough, it, it does serve a purpose.
And there is there is a genuine reason that we have it.
It's also a reminder that there's a lot of shitty people
out there and they shouldn't be around children.
So fuck those guys. As far as Carter goes, it's kind
of the same thing that we had onbefore.
I mean, this is something that really can't be publicized
because there's it's just an accusation.

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But I may, I guess it's no different than, you know, a
court case that this person was arrested for this and they're
going to court. They had the Brooks thing.
For that matter, they didn't putanything out about the Brooks
thing either. I think I mean larger picture,
it's it's our sport not wanting to do anything that casts itself
in a bad light. And we don't put out things that

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are negative. We don't put out, you know, any,
anything that's not a, you know,this guy won a championship.
Good job. This guy helped an old lady
across the road. Congratulations.
But I think it's important that we that we highlight these
things because it's, it's, it's real, it's it's part of the
sport. It's something that we need to
deal with. And the more you know about

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these kind of things that the easier it is to deal with them.
And that's part of the backlash about all this stuff that's come
out about Penn State is that that everything's been so hidden
and nobody does No, nobody knowsthese things until you know,
this, the floodgates are open and all these things come out.
So I mean, we've heard, I'll speak for me, I've heard things
for the last few years about a few different people in the

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program doing some not so savorythings harder amongst them.
And I can't speak on those because I don't have any, any
proof that these things actuallyhappen.
It's just things that you hear. So until there's any substance
behind it, it's hard to come outwith any of those things,
especially in a sport that's as small as wrestling, because we

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only have so much we can talk about.
If we start throwing around accusations without any proof,
it's it's not going to be a goodday for us.
Agreed, Kevin. I'm I'm just, first thing I
started looking up was like, there wasn't anyone else at Penn
State that could have won that award.

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Like what the fuck were they thinking?
Anybody in the Big 10? Big 10.
Male in the Big 10. Anyone else like didn't they
have like a good quarterback andthat tight end was drafted
pretty high like give it to somebody did.
Yeah. Anyway, that was that was one.
Then when they posted it, they took.

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Like little tone depth, little tone depth.
Just so you, you know what you're doing, you know what
you're doing and you're still doing it.
You don't have to. You don't have well.
Read those quote tweets, they'refantastic.
Oh my God, it's it's just that that was stupid regarding the
safe sports stuff. I mean, I don't know what the
procedures are. It seems reasonable that if

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there's an investigation going on into it, that.
Yeah. And put them on the list for a
temporary suspension. I mean, it's not, I don't think
it's going to really have much of A results in the short term
anyway. It's not like he's wrestling in
any tournaments coming up or hasanything big going on.
He's clearly not part of the Nittany Line Wrestling Club, You
know, the at the moment and far as I can tell, hasn't found a

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new home. So as far as like what tangibly
this, you know, suspension does,it does nothing.
It just is a part of their process that is, you know, I
think probably a good thing. So I'm happy that it exists and
that there is a list of people to be ashamed and to watch out

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for. That's helpful.
So, you know, and whatever happens with Carter and then
whatever happens in the ensuing weeks, again, there are
continued rumblings of additional news.
But in the meantime, you know, Penn State, pick somebody else.
And and I'm glad that there's processes to to keep ideally

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keep people, you know, aware of who to watch out for.
Yeah, Austin. Yeah, but here's the thing.
How many people know about this list?
You know, if this list was made a little more public, a little
more out there, would it change a lot of people's behaviors and
say, oh, I don't want to be shunned?
But it's kind of hiding in plain.

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Sight, to be honest. Yeah, it's not hard to find.
I remember when I found it. I think it was just going on USA
Wrestling to get certified or whatever and then, you know, we
all. Have to do the safe sports.
Shit every year, but how many ofus have ever actually like dug
into it and and looked more deeply into it?
Unless you heard about an accusation or wanted to check on

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a coach that you, you know, yourkids affiliated with anything
like that. Like just looking at these
lists, I know some of these names have, I've crossed paths
with through coaching and, and things like that.
So it's, it's weird. It's weird.
I clicked on that list immediately as soon as I found
it. And doesn't it say like where
they the people live too? Like.

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Says it says their state, yeah. The state they're affiliated
with, where they're. Yeah, but it has, it has what
their their misconduct is. It has the misconduct type.
And if you're looking at the permanently ineligible, they're
all sexual misconduct as well asthe membership suspension right

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now. Excuse me?
Yeah, the permanently ineligiblelist is all sexual misconduct.
There are the other one, the membership suspension list.
It has literally everyone on it.So, like, Gilman is on it for
you. Sada.
Aaron Brooks is not on this listyet.

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Kyle Snyder was on there for a week.
He was on there for a week. How embarrassing would it be if,
like, one of our names was just on that list right now?
Like Austin? Oh no.
As we're as we're talking about it, yeah.
So, yeah, I mean, it, it sucks to see this, these things.
And not for nothing, I mean, there's also like a, a earliest

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date of reinstatement for some people.
And it's all there's some are, there's three that are 2025.
One of them is literally the endof this week.
The others are all 2026. And then there's others that are
on a, on the, the interim membersuspension.

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There's one that's on the interim that is suspended until
2029. So like this list, like I said,
I feel like it's hiding in plainsight, to be completely honest.
And I, you know, even though I say like, why don't we get
briefed on these things? I understand why.
Obviously, you know, we don't, we don't want to publicize our

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bad news. But also with the Snyder thing,
nothing was ever said from USA Wrestling.
Still hasn't been. And still hasn't been.
And I don't think there ever will be, honestly.
So there's there's just like, yeah, like speak on it, right?

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Like because when when good things happen, USA wrestling
gets the credit and our Team USAgets the credit as they should
for sure, right governing body, it's Team USA.
But when bad things happen, you also have to you should have to
speak to these things as well. So like, like I said, I get it.

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I understand why these things aren't publicized the way that
you know, we're talking about. But like this is just like not
good to see to to to see it right.
Like you've, you've known thingsabout some people that are on
this list because they have beenpublic.
But like you also just to see this list, you're like, shit,

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this is just not this is just not good.
So that is what it is. But that is the suspension list
and what it means for Carter to be on it.
He can obviously. I mean, as we saw with Kyle
Snyder, you can be on it one dayand then a week later you're off
of it. So.
Quick visit to that list too. Yeah, it's doesn't have to,

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doesn't have to be a long time that you're on there.
So, yeah. So we'll see what happens.
Obviously there's a investigation going on with what
is going on. I guess what's been accused when
it comes to Carter. So still future yet to be
determined. Gentlemen, we talked about like
I think we've done a lot of ranting and talked about a lot

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of like shitty things. Let's let's let's end the
conversation today on some fun stuff and people have gotten
into talking about singlets and and stuff like that.
So let's let's talk singlets because some they absolutely
knock out the park and I feel like it's, it's a pertinent

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conversation for right now when Fargo's going on because there
are wild singlets that we see inFargo.
We're not going to talk about ones, we're not going to talk
about Fargo singlets. We won't do that.
There are some that have been banned.
I believe my favorite singlet, Iguess singlet singlet swap that

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ever went on was when Braxton Amos went from Ohio to West
Virginia all in one tournament and was literally traded.
So that was fun when he was backin high school.
But let's talk traditional singlets first.
And, and I'm going to, I know that Claunch is like ready for
this topic because he said he can talk singlets all day.

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So I'm going to start with Claunch.
What, what are your favorite traditional singlets?
And, and let me clarify, when I talk traditional, when I say
traditional, it's not like Iowa,Penn State, like, you know, the
team's traditional singlet, their number one singlet that
they that they wear which one, you know what, what are your
favorites that you see from teams?

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So I've, I've got my, I've got my list here.
I might have done it a little differently, but I wanted to go
through a couple honorable mentions first.
I wanted to start my the top five that I have on my list are
all teams and they're like active singlet choices, right?
But I wanted honorable mention. Remember those Edinboro ones
with shop and Habit? And the kill ones.

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Those were badass singlets. Those were awesome.
And those three dudes were just out there killing people.
That was fun. Obviously there's the classic
Oklahoma State Finals and the Minnesota Finals gold that.
Those are classics. Wyoming in general just has a
great set of singlets. They've got the yellow ones,
those brown ones with the mountain range on them are

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pretty. Gold, not yellow.
Yes, yes, my apologies. What are you?
What is it? A Wyomingite is that What?
Is that what you guys are called?
Yeah, I think so. I mean, I've been in Virginia
longer than anywhere else now. So, Virginian.
There you go. I guess I'm a Virginian.
I like the Michigan ones with Kellen Russell where they had

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the stripes down the side. Those were bad ass for a while.
Those are the Adidas ones. Yep, Yep, they were.
Lehi had the same design. Those were fantastic.
Yeah, yes, they were. As did Blair Academy.
Yes they did. Yes they did.
Michigan also had some cool camoones when they wrestled Campbell
and that Army base that was. F Fort Bragg, Yeah, Yep, they.

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Still wear those I'm pretty sure, right?
Every so often they bust them out.
Yeah, well, then it's like military appreciation night or
whatever. They'll they'll bust those out,
which is pretty sweet. But my regular list, I wanted to
put Arizona State on there. I think I did this a little bit
different because they just haveso many options.
They've got the cool black ones,they've got the yellow ones,
they've got the maroon. They went with the old school

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ones that Zeke Jones used to wear.
Lots of great options for for Arizona State.
Michigan State has some great options too.
They've got a black one that haslike green on the sides and
like, I don't know, weird Spartan design things on them.
Those look pretty sweet. Princeton's got a great set of

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singlets. They've got the white one,
obviously that Pat Glory came out in the NCAA finals in WAR.
They've got the the black and the orange.
I feel like they've got some other ones they throw out there
every once in a while. American Sneaky has some bad ass
singlets. They've got a nice couple
different options that they have.
They've got like an all white with some cool designs up at the

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top of the straps and the, the the bands on the legs.
And then number one in my heart and in my mind, Central Michigan
University, it's no one else hassinglets like that.
They're they're just the only ones you see the little the loop
or whatever. And you know, like that's a
Central Michigan singlet. And if anyone tries to copy it,
I'll kick him in the Dick. So don't try to copy it.

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But yeah, that's Central Michigan number one there.
You go, Robbie on you. Let me start by saying overall,
as a conference, ACC hands down best single selection out of
every any conference. A lot of that has to do with

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with the Nike contracts a lot ofthese schools have and that
they've allowed a lot of flexibility and a lot of, you
know, allowed the programs to kind of run with it and do some
creative things that a lot of other schools aren't allowed to
do or haven't been given the freedom to do.
So you have a lot of really cooloptions.
So on the traditional side, I think Wyoming is one of my

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favorites with the arch letters,just a great look.
The Oklahoma State solid orange,always great.
I think what really sets those off is the the warm ups with the
the black warm ups with the the orange and white little V-neck
thing. Those are pretty sweet.

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And then I think 3 of the traditional singlets that I
really like in the ACC since Pitt, Pitt did their rebranding
and their and their change of color scheme a few years ago.
Their solid blue with the yellowpit is really, really cool.
I love UNC's colors. So anything they do, I really
like the use of their the Argyle, but I like their white

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thing that it says Carolina Cross it and the Virginia Tech
has a maroon version and a blackversion of the the block Vt
that's in the Hokeystone. And if you've never had the
chance to be on Virginia Tech's campus, it's it's gorgeous.
And all these, all the buildingsare made out of this field stone
from, from the area. So it's all these stone

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buildings and they, you know, they use it throughout their
designs and, and all their school stuff.
But it's the single the Makai wore when he won the first
title. It has it in the Vt and then on
the back it's just a really sweet look.

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Oh Holmes, you muted. Yeah, I was muted.
Sorry. Austin, on to you.
Yeah, I'll be honest, I didn't make a top five list.
I just kind of. Make Damn it, Austin.
I'm not, I'm not like a yeah, I shouldn't say I'm not big on
singlets. I just.
Not a singlet savant. Yeah, I don't take notes on

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which ones are really cool. I do have some notes though, and
we've talked about the UNC blackones.
They can't really wear anymore. I mean, those are I think
everyone likes those. Those are pretty sweet.
And me overall, I have I, I likewhen the singlets are they're
black, but black is not in the school colors, you know, for

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instance, I think Robbie, you mentioned the black Vt ones are
pretty cool with like the brick on the back.
I know, I think Pitt has a blackone as well.
They have the, it's the Steel City one that has the.
Yeah, with the city skyline, that's that one's really cool.
I know Maryland has. I don't know if it's a white or
black one with the Terrapin, theMaryland flag in that way.

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It's a little love the Maryland flag.
Yeah, they they do. There's one thing that I saw it,
they don't do too much of it a lot, You know, a lot of a lot of
it could be overkill. I know there was a cool
throwback when I saw summer Purdue had like the.
The train on the front of it. Yeah, the railroad tracks.
Pretty sweet. I think that was like from 10
years ago or whatever. But yeah, I know I've probably

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given lame answers here, but yeah, anything that has black in
it, where the school is not withblack is not in the school
colors. And Iowa State has a black one.
I think those kind of those kindof stick out to me.
And you know, just something, something different like that
always, always gets noticed by me at least.
So for traditional singlets, Austin wants to go with anything
that's not traditional. With the school.

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Yes. Let it be noted.
I can't, I can't fault a man that always bets on black, put
it that way. So for me, at the top for me is
always going to be the Oklahoma State singlet.
That is top tier #1 for me. The other one for me is North

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Carolina's, their powder blue singlet that they have Carolina
blue. The Carolina blue.
Yeah, my bad. But their Carolina blue singlet
that they have and it just says like North Carolina in like
block across the the front and it's like traditional to the

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Michael Jordan basketball uniform.
It's one that O'Connor was wearing when he won his title.
Yes, that one absolutely sick. The other one that I like is,
and I'm not even sure if it's their traditional singlet, but
it's another one that I like andit is West Virginia's singlet

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with the Mountaineer on the back.
And it might, it might not even be like their traditional
singlet, but I remember seeing this singlet with the
Mountaineer on it and I was like, that's a dope ass singlet,
right? And I always thought that one
was really cool as well as Virginia Tech and how they have
the the Hokie stone incorporatedinto their singlet.

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And then the the I was going to throw NC State in here, but NC
State has so many singlets that I love.
When we had a trip to NC State, once they laid out all of their
singlets for the year in in their equipment room, they gave
us like a tour of that and like showed showed us all their

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stuff. They have a bunch of dope
singlets. But the the other one that I
really like is the one that KeckEisen wears all the time, or at
least war in the finals. And it's the purple you and I
singlet and it just has you and I with the Panther on it.
For me, like that is like peak traditional.

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I love EU and I singlet and I love that.
I mean they have like and I actually had to like look up
pictures and I didn't realize how many different purple
singlets they have. It's like slight tweaks to the
font of U and. I yeah how it's written.
The font is changed on their singlets, but I love U and I's U
and I singlet. I'll I'll start the conversation

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with the alternates. And the top one is the one that
Austin already talked about the UNC black singlet and I
mentioned it. You know, Robbie had had
responded to the tweet that basically started this entire
conversation. I want to go back.
Obviously, the Minnesota Gold will always be, you know, one of
the absolute traditional ones. I was actually kind of mad that

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Gable did not wear the MinnesotaGold this year.
So but the UNC black singlet that they wore Clark, I think
the year that Clark was in the finals, they wore the first
round of the NCAA tournament. And I had asked Coleman because
that was like the first time that they had worn.

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It was the year before when, youknow, O'Connor was in the finals
the first time and they wore it in the first round that year.
And I was like, that is a dope ass singlet.
And I asked Coleman and he's like, yeah, we actually kind of
had to like sneak it into the rotation because they wore it
during a duel during the year. And administration was like, you

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guys got to take that off. Like they tried to get them to
change like right then and there.
And they were like, well, can wewear it the rest of the duel?
Because if we change now, we we'll lose team points.
So they allowed him to wear it then.
And I'm glad that Tony also chimed in because when I
responded, everybody was like, wait a second, they can't wear
it. And I should have known Tony
would be on top of it. Obviously I had I had the story,

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but like to get it from Tony andget even more details is good to
know. But I mean, obviously the school
is moving away from, or at leastthey were moving away from
colors that aren't their traditional ones, which is why
the black singlet had to be taken out of rotation.
They're going to be able to wearit again this year.
But the football team had had black uniforms, but they slowly
started to if they wanted a a darker color start to move to

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that that Navy the other and andI'm putting UNC back in here
again. The other one that was really
cool was when they wrestled Michigan on the baseball field
and. A.
Hinge stripes in the singlet, Absolutely dope.
It was cool to be on the field for that.
Me and Fretwell flew in. I actually had to be in North
Carolina for my old job. So, you know, I flew in in North

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Carolina. The first time I met you it.
Is in person flew into Charlotteand drove to to Chapel Hill for
the day and then had to drive back to Charlotte, which is only
like hour and a half two hours. It wasn't a bad drive.
But yeah, those were those were really awesome.
The other alternate that I lovedand I don't think that Oklahoma

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State will bust this one out ever again, but it's their black
singlet with with the cowboy on the side that Perry wore.
I think Perry wear that in the semis.
I don't think he wore it in the finals.
Think he wore it in the semis. But that one was dope as well as
Oklahoma State's other singlet with with Pistol Pete on the

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back of it and it's the full wrestling Pistol Pete on on the
back of the singlet. That was really cool as well.
Like I said, I, I, I want to throw NC State in here, but they
have so many that like, I just think they do a really good job.
But the one that they did that Iactually asked Trent about might

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have been, might have been last year.
I think it was in Kansas City where they wore this singlet and
Trenton was like, I absolutely hate this singlet.
And it was the one that they have like they had like
honeycombs on it and they wore it, I think like that one,
either first round or second round or something like that.
And I was like, oh, new singlet.And he was like, yeah, I hate
this thing, right. And and I.

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Was they had a lot that year where there were like gradients
like it was yeah, yeah, I didn't.
I don't like that look. Yeah, yeah.
But they've had they, I mean, I think they get like a new
singlet kind of every year. The other singlet that I don't
like, I know we're talking aboutthings we do, but the other
thing that I don't like is Cornell's new singlet with like
the oh, the stripes down the side I'm.

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Looking. Not not a fan, not a fan.
I will say that I do like their white singlet.
I'm not normally a fan of white singlets, but Cornell's white
singlet is a good alternate as well as when Penn State wears
their traditional colors, their official traditional colors of
pink and black. I always think it's pretty cool
that they that they do that since they are such a

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traditional team and never change their singlet and rarely
ever wear the white one. But when they wear that black
and pink, I always think it's pretty cool.
Kevin, what are your, what are your non traditional singlets
that that you'd like? Yeah, I'm awesome.
I'm glad you brought this up. The Maryland does have a great

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like rotation of singlets. I remember they haven't done
this, I don't think, but originally they had had like a
because they're they have four colors there at Maryland
technically. So it's like, yeah, the black,
red, white and yellow. And they had this like 2 piece
like fight short combo thing that was yellow with like the
big block Maryland M on the front.

(01:28:15):
That was pretty cool looking. I'm going used.
To have the yellow singlet like that back when when McCoy was
there and I had turt the turt script that was, that was a
sweet 1. That's a great singlet too.
This one I'm pretty sure is off most people's board.
I'm going Kevin Jackson in the LSU singlet from back in the day

(01:28:39):
because Kevin Jackson in a singlet just looks great.
So that's that's what I'm another alternate one I'm going
with. I do want to throw one more
alternate in here and it is the NC State singlet that I that I
really like with the wolf on theside that Kevin Jack wore.
I had to look it up. I'm.
Like that's the one I posted with with Hayden wearing it.

(01:29:01):
Yeah, there's NC State singlet in here that I knew was like at
the top for me. But Robbie, go ahead, take it
away. We're.
Yours. I got two more that I forgot to
mention. I wanted to shout out Kent State
when they had Nick Fedelian and and Dustin Kilgore.
They had some badass singlets back then.
It's because nobody can say no to Dustin Kilgore because he's.

(01:29:22):
Afraid also helped that Kilgore was an absolute monster.
That was such a super freak. It's crazy to me that Kent State
has had, like an NCAA champion more recently than like a lot of
other big schools. Yeah, Kilgore was the man.
So good for him. What was your second one?
You said there was 2. That was it.

(01:29:44):
I, I that was it. I lied.
He lied. Yeah, he lied.
Robbie, take it away. So some of my favorite
alternatives have already been listed, like the the wolf logo
with the Wolfpack, the Iowa State black one that the David
Carr wore. That one's a great looking
singlet. The Purdue with the train tracks

(01:30:05):
for the they also I like the onewhere they have like the
highlighter color where they do the the pinning down cancer.
The one that wherever you're forthat that's a really good
singlet. One that I think is underrated
but now is becoming overused is Mizzou's black one with the
tiger stripes. And now they have like yellow
versions and I think I wish theywould have just stuck with the

(01:30:26):
black one, but I really like that one.
And then. Two pieces actually.
Pretty dope. Yeah, even though I'm not a two
piece singlet guy. Yeah, I'm not not a fan of those
either, but that's. But they're two piece.
They're two pieces. Pretty dope.
The the other one that I really like this year was the the new
version of Nebraska's script Huskers Singlet.
Like they have it in black and in white, and it's a stick,

(01:30:47):
right looking singlet. Now, if they can figure out a
way to get a wrestling Herbie onthe back of one, I'd be fully in
support of that. Yeah.
And that would help AJ with his double Corn Dance.
Just saying. Yeah, they need to figure that
out. I don't know how much I like the

(01:31:09):
Oklahoma State and new the new singlet that they have.
I think it's I think it's cool. I think it's got like the the
traditional Oklahoma State, likeV on the back and everything.
I think it's pretty cool. But like, I don't know, I miss
the the old just like regular orange that they that they used
to have. Yeah, Austin, you already went

(01:31:32):
with your non traditional singlets.
Do you had any more that were that were in mind?
You have any other black singlets you like Austin?
I was going to say, Speaking of black singlets, I mean, what's
more iconic than Shane Griffsit,Shane Griffiths, All Blacks?
You know, it's like, yeah, superobviously plain black, nothing
to it. But the mean behind it is, is

(01:31:53):
pretty monumental, honestly. So that that one just came up
here in a little quick search asI was doing.
But I will give Robbie a shout. I noticed Virginia, those orange
ones, they have a pretty cool maybe.
Maybe because I just like orange.
Virginia's got some great singlets.
Now. The problem they have is that
the the school is so protective of the brand that they won't let

(01:32:14):
them to be like flexible at all with it.
It's like everything has to havethe V Sabres on it, which, you
know, whatever it's it's fine. But the one that came out last
year with the alternate singlet they wore against Duke was like
the like gun metal with orange trim.
And it just said who's because that's their like one of their
nickname is the who's and that was a sweet ass singlet.
I wish they would wear that one more.

(01:32:35):
Yeah, that was a great singlet matchup because it was Duke with
their Gothic font. And like the Chapel on the back,
it's a good one too. There's a lot of good singlets
out there. A lot of teams.
I mean, are are it's funny, likeIowa never changes their
singlet. Penn State never changes their

(01:32:55):
singlet really, unless they unless it's their, I don't even
know what they call it. But when they wear their their
black and pink, which I can remember when people were like,
what's this black and pink? And it's like, Can you imagine
if Penn State's colors were still black and pink?
That would be that would be someshit.
But no a lot of really cool saying Nebraska does does really
good with their singlets as well.

(01:33:16):
They have a ton of them between Nebraska and Arizona State
throwing names on the back. The only thing that.
I'm fan, not a fan of that. Yeah, it's, it's if.
And that's The thing is if it was like, you know, obviously
with USA Wrestling singlets, that's different.
But yeah, I'm I'm surprised thatRobbie didn't say that he's a

(01:33:40):
fan of Trumbull's baggy warm up singlet.
Oh, his warm up singlets are awesome.
And he told me that he's got some new ones.
I was going to mention their their their polos as part of
their uniforms. Yeah, I was talking to Pat this
weekend and he sent me a picture.
It was him and Vinny and Ryan Jack and Vinny was wearing a

(01:34:02):
polo. So I so I said, I guess he's
ready to go live next. Is that is that what's
happening? Yep, yeah, No, I mean, a lot of
good singlets out there. I like ending the show on a fun
note as well, by the way. Oregon State has some great
ones, they should be mentioned. They do, yeah.
Yeah, I was going to. I was going to mention them too.

(01:34:23):
Like they that like the tree on the back?
Yeah, the one with the the tree line too.
Yeah. Cal Poly's white ones with the
gold lettering. Those are pretty sweet too.
I don't. Know what?
I can't remember what those looklike.
I have to look that one up. Just close your eyes and picture
Bernie Truax and you'll see it. Yeah, that'll do it.

(01:34:45):
That'll certainly do it. That's singlet talk, I think.
I think we're good to end the show with a little bit of
nonsense singlet talk. But the topic came up, Robbie,
you know, you you kind of push it even further.
And I was like, yeah, that'd be that'd be kind of a fun thing.
I think next week we'll we'll end on another fun note that
Kevin brought up of top five coaches we would love to have a

(01:35:08):
beer with. That'll be kind of how we end
the end the show here in the offseason.
Just on a on a fun note, single season comes around.
We'll we'll do some some fun stuff and maybe we'll even, you
know, drink on next week's show for that theme too, because we
can do that. But throw your favorite singlets
into the comments. If they're singlets out there
that we didn't mention things single as we did and you think

(01:35:31):
really bad. Let us know for sure.
But on any other topic, we love to hear you guys feedback.
Even though last week some guys said I was talking too much
again. Yeah, it's going to happen.
There's a balance between get myopinions out there and
navigating through, you know, people on the show.
But he when I responded, he did respond with saying that he did
like the show. I just talked a little too much

(01:35:52):
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