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Speaker 1 (00:02):
My guest is Ed Bruce, and I wanna pick up
a story. We were telling a moment ago and I
interrupted you because we needed to move by.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
We we can save it for another day if you want.
That's right, It's okay. Uh, A couple of weeks ago
when or three weeks ago whenever, when I got back to town,
her got back home, and uh, I had taken the
truck in the Fairview to fill it up.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
A Fairview is a community.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
West southwestern Nashville, about twenty miles okay.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
And it's rural, it really is.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
And and uh, you know, I'm kind of uh apparently
I'm a local talent.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
I went into I pulled a gas pump and the
kid comes out and moost no filled up. Yeah, and
he sticks a nozzle in the tank. Standing there telling me,
and he says, how do you like your new job?
And I said, well, it's not as much fun as
picking and singing. He said, yeah, but at least it's
a job. What can you say to that. He will
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keep your feet on the ground. He was referring to
your job in Maverick. In Maverick, you know that was
my new job. He says, Hey, you like a new job.
I said, well, it's not as much fun as bigger
than singing. He said, well, at least it's a job.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Well, he probably knew a lot of people out of work.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Ed last year when you were on this show, if
you were on with Terry Gibbs, and I didn't have
this record.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I couldn't find it anywhere. And I don't think you
have a copydod.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
I don't think I do. I'm sure my mother has,
but I.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Don't have for it.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
But so I called the Country Music Hall of Fame.
There's a record genius over there by the name of
Bob Penson. I said, Bob, I got a toughie for you,
about twenty years old Ed Bruce singing See the Big
Man Cry. He said, that's what Charlie lew And. I said, no,
Ed wrote it and had the first record on it.
He said, I'll look it up and call you back.
And he is a genius. He called me back thirty
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minutes he said, I've got to see the Big Man
Cry on Wand Records two minutes and twenty three seconds long.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Said I want it?
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Can I have it?
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Hi?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Can I have it?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I get it for you. Okay, after we mix this show.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Anyway, your record came out several years before Charlie's doing.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
It, late sixty two or early sixty three, and I
think Charlie's was in sixty four.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Okay, this was a good tune, and I don't know
that many people remember your singing it. I don't know
that anybody remembers you were singing it.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
No, I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Now, speaking of better cap seecrets of the music industry,
this is certainly one of them.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
But this is Ed's original recording of See the Big Man, Cry.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
The Deal of the Deal Hotel on the Street.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
I happen to see a pretty.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
Young woman and a little lady boy.
Speaker 7 (02:53):
And he looked back, See the big Man, That's what
I heard him say, See the Big.
Speaker 8 (03:05):
Man, fie mama.
Speaker 9 (03:07):
He look to Ragus, called me.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
And break.
Speaker 10 (03:12):
A mother of a jumpin little fellows my food.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
See you looked at the.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
First and said if I had a daddy from before me,
See the big Man, Mama, That's what I heard him say,
See the big.
Speaker 9 (03:34):
Man, fie mama.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
You look to Rags cart me break.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
I wanted to tell.
Speaker 11 (03:44):
Him I was his daddy, and he sure every pretty
mama but the judge had said that I could never
see them again for the things I said.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
See the Big.
Speaker 7 (03:59):
Man, Bye, Mama, that's what I had you say, See
the big Man, fine, Mama.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
He looks a spot to her break.
Speaker 8 (04:12):
The sun.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
As you grow over, you'll find some one in steep.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
Steak by her taking that of her, and you will
never fee see the big Man. Fine, that's what I
heard you say. See the big Man, fine, Mama, looks
like a spot with your brain.
Speaker 10 (04:42):
He looks a light a spot with your brain.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
See the big Man, fine, mama, See.
Speaker 12 (04:52):
The kids in his eyes?
Speaker 7 (04:56):
My mom, you're.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
D Bruce sing the Elusive tune. That's the elusive record
to see the Big Man cry from Chokee, Oklahoma. You
know where that is at? No, Well, it's the home
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of Raba Maclamtire. I figured that was coming out south
of Oklahoma City.
Speaker 11 (05:25):
He she is.
Speaker 13 (05:36):
I don't mind.
Speaker 14 (05:41):
Snow days. I'm sorry, I'm not mybist. I know you
can't see bred, but I'm not how looking your row.
Speaker 10 (06:15):
You dance with me.
Speaker 14 (06:19):
And try to fuckingly quest but don't as cook a
booze me stand to me, not that.
Speaker 13 (06:45):
Now, don't say want me ha thy.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
Duel storm in line. They may.
Speaker 13 (07:05):
The time, I'll think the more, But I'm not Dily.
Speaker 14 (07:20):
It's nice to be dancing to all since sin.
Speaker 10 (07:28):
And maybe it has.
Speaker 8 (07:32):
To go it.
Speaker 14 (07:37):
You b the nob and my ball scene, cause.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
I'm not.
Speaker 14 (07:54):
No, I'm not that Lily.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Raven McIntyre and I'm not that lonely yet.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
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add Bruce ed, there's an interesting story about you and
(09:18):
People magazine, and obviously they interviewed Jim Garner too.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
It was about how you got on the show.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
You've got to relate how this Nashville songwriter got out
to Hollywood on a show with James Garner.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Well, Jim is a big country music fan, and he
and I both happened to be four years ago this
month in Houston or at the Woodlands where they had
the Houston Open. Daryl Royal, who is also, as you
well know, a big country music fan, hosts a charity
golf tournament for the benefit of the Boys Clubs of Texas.
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And the last night we were there, we had a
very light select guitar pull and Mickey Newberry's apartment, me
and Mickey, I think Red Lane was there for a while,
and just a couple of other writers and Jim Garner. Uh,
Mickey didn'tvite a Jim, and we set up all night
just swapping the guitar back and forth and and uh visiting.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
He's very it loves loves us old country sound writers.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
And saw him again the next year at the same
tournament and just and this time just to kind of
say high Jim. Good to see and met Stuart Marglin,
who of course was Angel in Rockford Files and uh
Filo Sandy and the Bretton Maverick series. And Stuart had
uh recently written uh the Bulk of and and recorded
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an album called The Angel Sings, and he was gonna
do it do a couple of numbers on the show,
uh in conjunction with the golf tournament. It's, you know,
a couple of days of golf and then shows at night,
big feed and was a basket case Ralph.
Speaker 11 (11:01):
He just.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
I don't know, being on the show with Willie and
Johnny Duncan in the Texas Playboys when the Stewart is
from Texas incidentally, and you mean they upset him well,
he was, you know, he felt like maybe he was
out of his element.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
He might have been intimidated a little bit. Anyway, he
was scared death.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
And Patsy and I talked to him, especially Patsy, and
he got up on stage and did a very good job.
And when he came off stage, Patsy hugged his neck
and told him he did fine and all that, and
he later said that that's all he remembers about that night,
was coming off at stage and Patsy hugging his neck.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Do did a good job.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
So, all right, ed, let me interrupt you. You were
so you met Jim Garner through the Daryl garyl Royal
Golfer and music.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah, all right, I'll continue this story. Okay. Meantime, here's
Conway Twitty.
Speaker 8 (11:58):
Midnight was drifting through the leases swear on the trees.
I saw the look in your eyes, looking into the night,
not seeing what you wanted to see, doting.
Speaker 12 (12:17):
Don't say a word. I've already heard what your bid
to see. The mind you died of bath mood.
Speaker 9 (12:27):
You got a soul on your mind.
Speaker 10 (12:35):
You want a man with the.
Speaker 9 (12:37):
Soul hand you want to love with him, eave.
Speaker 8 (12:44):
You want somebody who was spending sometime not coming.
Speaker 9 (12:50):
Good in a eve, baby, believe I'm on the stand
when it.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Comes to love.
Speaker 8 (12:59):
You on the Slow Man, shadowed rown with no longer
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row and the blanket.
Speaker 9 (13:28):
Of stars, and.
Speaker 8 (13:31):
Hey, we're drift in three like to lost leave on
the crazy wind of the night.
Speaker 9 (13:40):
Darling, don't sail word.
Speaker 10 (13:43):
I've already heard what you buy to.
Speaker 8 (13:46):
See to night.
Speaker 10 (13:49):
If you want all night, you know it's all night.
Speaker 9 (13:56):
I've got time.
Speaker 8 (13:59):
You got a man with the soul hand, you gotta
love with them ease. You got somebody who was spending
some time not coming.
Speaker 11 (14:14):
Go in.
Speaker 9 (14:17):
Maybe believe the state when it comes to.
Speaker 10 (14:23):
Love, you want to sew hand.
Speaker 9 (14:26):
You want a love with the knees and test.
Speaker 8 (14:31):
You got somebody who was spending some time with your
baby not coming go in.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Conway Twitty on the show with slow Hand. Here's a
good here's a guy that reminds me a little bit
of you, except they don't ever hear any frogs. But
he's an excellent guitar player and singer. And bring him
up another boy.
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having hits. I guess back part of the end of
the very early sixties. Heading around with the spirit of
the West.
Speaker 10 (15:14):
I taught the cowboy how the rider rope branded. I
taught the eagle how to fly. I used up every color.
Speaker 15 (15:26):
Ain't the desert sand, and I sold across the rocky mountains.
Speaker 10 (15:33):
I rode in covered wagons with the brave pioneers and
slept beneath the fennel the home sky.
Speaker 15 (15:43):
I walked each pain of mine along the trail of teens,
and I watched the crowd pep the die. I'm the
spirited off the West, and I have done my best
to keep the West and keep it growing. But it's
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dying every day. But progress is said, and it won't belong.
Speaker 10 (16:09):
TI move to rest. I walk along livers with the Christianity.
I sang a cattle driving the cowboy tune.
Speaker 15 (16:30):
I watched old Faithful rising for one hundred thousand years.
Speaker 10 (16:35):
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Speaker 15 (16:40):
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Speaker 15 (17:00):
I'm the Spirit of the West, and I have done
my best to keep the West live and keep it
go with.
Speaker 10 (17:10):
But it's dying every day. That's Boba's solely same, and
it won't belong to my lady.
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Yes, Bobby Gallsboro, a recent guest on our show, singing
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Speaker 2 (18:42):
Any story I add about girls, women and ladies, Yeah, can.
Speaker 6 (18:49):
Again.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
It involves Ron Peterson Patsy.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
We were at a Patsy let me you keep mentioning Patsy.
We should mention that's missus ed Bruce. Oh, don'tly re
call her.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Then she is Patty Bruce, a as you well know,
one of the hundred most powerful people in the business.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Patsy's my manager, UH business partner, co writer and uh
she and I have been working together pretty closely for
some number of years professionally, about.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Uh six or seven, I guess. Anyway, Ron had had
a a cook cap at his place, and after it.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Was over, Patsy and Ron and I were sitting around
on the patiom just talking about the day. And there
had been a young lady there who was supposed to
have been working in the kitchen. It was pretty big,
pretty big turnout, uh, probably fifty seventy five people. And uh,
actually this this, uh, this young lady was supposed to
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be you know, picking up a paper plates and and
helping in the kitchen or whatever. And she got to
she got to party in herself, probably a little more.
And she was working and had even made it, I
think a couple of trips out to the barn or something,
and Patsy said something about, well, you know, there's girls
and women and ladies, and we wrote the songs. I
didn't really think that much of it at first. I thought, well,
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it's cute song. It's well written.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
I mean, there are three kinds of the female gender.
There are girls, there are women, and there are.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
That's what Patty says.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Patty says, all right, here's the song.
Speaker 16 (20:25):
There was only me and her and him. The bar
was given the last call, so I thought I'd move
on then. And I was slick and beating like a man,
so I took two between.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Them, who ordered one more around for being heard, and him.
Speaker 17 (20:56):
I placed my arm across the back of her or stool.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
And I don't remember what I said, but at the
time it sounded cool. She pushed her drag away and
never loved to meet. She just paid the tail tip.
The man.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Left me sitting there alone.
Speaker 8 (21:26):
With him, and he said, the girls and there's women.
Now the ladies.
Speaker 16 (21:35):
There's yes, sisters, and there's noses, and there's nabies.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
There's teasing and please, and ladies starting.
Speaker 8 (21:44):
Learn him when their pleases.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
The girls and they swim, and those.
Speaker 17 (21:52):
Ladies really pushed his old straw had back. He grinned,
and he said, ain't there all the mystery, sonny, it's
a se.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
They're all sitting on the world.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
We're trying to win.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Office.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
You know why love a mystery.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
So let's scream another ride, you and me.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
And then and he sat, best girls and n'st women.
That last lady is there's yes, sis and noses, and
there's meetings. There's teasing and fleas, and.
Speaker 8 (22:44):
Ladies started learning whining their babies.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
This girl, there's winning and there's ladies.
Speaker 8 (22:55):
This girls and this man is nothing.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Next lady is there's yeses and nos, and there's bees.
There's teasing and please, and they started.
Speaker 8 (23:11):
Learning when they beats.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
A little old girls and the women and the ladies.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Sitting this girls and there's women, then there's ladies. There's yes,
sees and noses, and there's.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Beats, there's teasing.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Our guest star of the week, Ed Bruce, with girls,
women and ladies. Well that's my show for today, my friends.
This is Ralph Memory sitting in Nashville with a Ed
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Bruce and Ed I look forward to sharing the microphone
with you tomorrow. Three to go, right, we've got the
number three. Yeah, we've got three to go. Three more shows,
and we thank you for listening to our show. And
Red Bruce, this is Ralph Emory saying so long till tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
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