April 7, 2025 • 33 mins
Ever wonder why Philadelphia sports fans embrace being the "villains" of the sports world? We dive deep into the fascinating psychology behind Philly's notorious sports culture and how decades of media mischaracterization have shaped our collective identity.
The Eagles-centric conversation explores how fans have reconciled with their unfair reputation while celebrating their recent Super Bowl victory. Most revealing is our breakdown of Jalen Hurts' journey from doubted quarterback to Super Bowl MVP, highlighting the fascinating disconnect between how quarterbacks are evaluated through stats versus intangibles and winning outcomes. As Hurts himself proclaimed, "The game is going to look how Jalen Hurts wants it to look"—a philosophy that perfectly embodies Philadelphia's independent spirit.
We compare passion levels across Philadelphia neighborhoods (with Delaware County and South Philly representing peak intensity) and contrast different sports cultures, noting how NHL players battle through 82 games of violent physicality while NBA stars take "load management" days. This stark contrast in work ethic across professional sports reveals deeper cultural values reflected in each fanbase.
The pride of Philadelphia's sports community shines through our recollection of championship celebrations—from the Eagles' parade drawing over a million people to the legendary Broad Street Bullies parade of 1975 that brought an estimated 2.5 million fans into the streets when the Flyers were the city's only successful franchise. These moments transcend sports, becoming integral to Philadelphia's cultural heritage and collective memory.
Ready to understand the true heart of Philadelphia sports culture beyond the stereotypes? Subscribe now and join the conversation about what makes our fandom unlike any other in professional sports.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
definitely not as bad this time.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I turned it down, you turned it down.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Hey, welcome back to the third third third episode of
the rambling den.
This is sylvia's favorite topicabsolutely sports boys.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Anyway, welcome sports to the rambling den.
Live from philadelphia, pa, inthe good old usa.
We love you.
Thank you for coming in.
Thank you for coming in thenand joining us tonight.
We are, uh, really happy tohave you.
I am brandon and my co-host,kevin, and we are simply
ecstatic to be back behind themic.
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You may know us from a formershow, the bks show.
Uh, we uh are doing a littleside project now.
Uh, while bks show is underunder construction mish
maintenance, I don't know um, Iwould say standing, but not
operating standing, but notoperating there we go with the
coaster shit again.
Yeah, there we go.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Hey, we just finished the coaster episode and it kind
of works.
Yeah, you can refer to that inthe last episode.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Here we are, and it is, and live again, and live
again on.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Twitch.
If you want to follow us alongfor the ride in action, go ahead
to our Twitch.
All of the links are in oursocial medias and you know bios,
it's that are in our socialmedias, and you know bios and
that and the third.
So if you want to come alongfor the ride and you know, see
our beautiful faces.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
So we are going to do something, and that is, I think
, in our link tree, once we getthese podcasts up and once we
get them published, and you cango to wherever you like to
listen to podcasts and listen tothe podcast in the link tree.
I will provide you to, I willprovide you guys with our
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Instagrams, uh, the ones wherewe uh, I'm a drone photographer,
so that's mostly what you'regoing to see.
There's drone, uh, dronepictures, a couple of selfies,
give that man a follow for thelove of God, we give that man a
follow, uh, and then you'll seeKevin's Instagram as well.
Give that man a follow.
He does, when he feels like it,take absolutely amazing
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pictures, especially productphotography.
I tell him all the time, buthe's a little bitch about it
sometimes.
Thank you, I want to take apicture.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I have to be in the mood, yeah, but I mean you'll
see nonstop stories you know ofme, like what's on my wrist of
that day.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Or he's always let you guys know what he's up to
who he's with.
This weekend got a big weekendup in the Poconos, which I do
intend to bring the camera.
Intend, intend.
Intend Doesn't mean it'll beused.
I don't make promises anymore.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Wow, I don't make promises anymore.
That hurts my feelings.
Listen, I do my best.
My feelings are hurt.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Because the guy has an eye and when he wants to he
can produce extremely greatphotographs and you'll see that
once I provide the link to ourpersonal Instagrams.
You'll see my eye with a dronein the sky.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
My eye with a drone in the sky.
Didn't even know it.
There we go.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
My eye with a drone in the sky.
Oh hey, I didn't even know.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
There we go um my eye with a drone in the sky.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Um, you know, we had, we did have planes, uh, and,
and one of them was toeventually get up to the pocono
so that I could fly that thingout there still gonna happen
we're, we're gonna get it there,kev, we're gonna get a round
two of uh, because I have suchbetter command over the drone
now and I know what I'm doingnow we're gonna get around to of
a car shoot uh, because thefirst one did pretty well, but I
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think what I know now I canreally knock it out of the park.
We're talking 400 feet in thesky and kev's just driving
through a nicely wooded area andit just looks beautiful, that
orange orange just popping.
Like.
I've got ideas.
I love ideas.
We'll talk about dronephotography and photography,
maybe in episode four.
Maybe that's one thing we'lltalk about.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
It might be the next one.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
But right now we're going to talk about the
E-A-G-L-E-S Eagles Eagles.
Now, I said that lightly, nottoo loud.
Why?
Why, you ask.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
well, because I was about to say.
I was like I'm scared, what'sgoing on?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
so you got like super sound.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
You're like little whale.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Look everything, oh my god as you know, kevin and I
uh are major uh sports fans forcertain sports.
So, kevin's, uh, I'm gonna rankkev's, I'm gonna see if I get
this right.
I'm going to put baseball first.
No Damn Okay.
So this is why.
Right, okay, so no.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
I mean it's very close.
I'm going to think about it.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
I'm going to put hockey first, then I'm going to
put baseball, then I'm going toput football.
Correct, and everything elsecan suck a dick.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
I wouldn't say suck a dick.
Um, when they suck a dick, wellI would actually put I would
actually believe it or not, Iwould actually put some forms of
racing over basketball andstuff like that.
Too.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Well, basketball, because like, the basketball is
a dead sport right now and it'ssomething I could go on and on
about.
It's a terrible.
There's a terrible product outthere.
Yeah, uh, the players are fullyguaranteed contracts.
But I mean I would love,wouldn't you love, to get a
fully guaranteed contract and uh, guess what?
You, you, you can take offwhenever you want.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
You don't have to show up Must be nice, right.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
You don't have to show up to work, you don't.
You don't have to be there.
All those people paying ticketsto come see you and your name
and see you play basketballbecause they believe in you and
they believe in the team.
They want to win a championship, but you need load management,
mind you.
Base they believe in the team.
They want to win a championship, but you need load management,
mind you.
Baseball players play 162 gamesHockey, which is the most
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physical besides football, whichis the most physical, taxing
game, because you fight, you getbody checked, you get slammed
into the ice, you're going 100miles an hour.
You're chasing after a puck.
That's this big.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
And getting beamed with one of those things, dude.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
It's, it's, it's probably our most.
Thank you, canada, it's most ofour.
One of our most violent,fastest Fucking love hockey man
Sport Fucking love hockey thatwe have.
Those guys play 82 games justlike, just like the, just like
the NBA, yet they have a muchmore physically demanding and
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none of those guys, none ofthose guys will take a day off
if they don't have to.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
And not just that, they don't get paid jack shit
compared to any of the othersports.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Exactly so.
They show up for the fans.
They show up because they havegood work ethic.
They show up when they'rebattered.
They show up when they'rebroken because, at the end of
the day, they're playing for theguy next to them.
They're playing for a dream,they're playing to get a Stanley
Cup and that's what they wantto do.
And that kind of mentality ismissing from the NBA.
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The NBA has become unwatchable.
Everybody's just jacking threes.
I love Steph Curry.
Steph Curry is a unique player,a generational talent.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
I hear his name thrown around a lot, but again,
I'm so out of the game withbasketball.
I haven't been in the whole inthe know with basketball since
the fucking Jordan and Iversondays, bro, and that's when
basketball was actually awesome.
It was awesome.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
What did you think?
Iverson Steph Curry is the mostelite three-point shooter that
has ever existed.
I mean pure shooter, I meanthis guy is that right?
he is.
I mean, you're talking halfcourt shots, bro, like nothing,
like nothing and in doublecoverage, like this guy is
special, he is special and uh,he, he, he set records, he's,
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he's made the most three pointsin nba history.
He's, he is lethal, uh and uh I.
He started to make that kind ofshot popular and the next thing
you know, um, now, now, this,this is the nba today.
Nobody's driving down themiddle.
You got guys that are sevenfoot tall, like like joella and
bead and wendy, some giants theythree-pointers instead of
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dominating the paint, I mean.
Joel Embiid, though he seems tobe made of glass, could
literally score 40 a night.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
It's between him and Carson Wentz, probably the two,
mr Glenn and Ben Simmons.
Ben Simmons.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
And any idiot who didn't want to play for the
Flyers.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Oh yeah, that guy, yes, oh that idiot.
He came, he's on the Ducks nowhe's on the Ducks.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
He went and put on a lighter shade of orange.
He didn't want to play for us.
He didn't want to play for us.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
The shade that he had at that first game this year.
I was crying.
He deserved it.
At that first game this year, Iwas crying.
He deserved it and they gotabsolutely rocked Yep, molly
whopped Yep.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
And you know what he deserved every single boo he got
.
I can't even remember the guy'sname because-.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Me neither.
I'm drawing a blank.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
He had an he was said to be a generational talent.
That guy, he was supposed to bespecial.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
And he's not even that good.
That's the funny thing.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
He could have been.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
He could have been.
Could have been If you're onthe right squad, but he was in
the he's on he didn't want to dothe work.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I don't think he wanted to do the work.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
No, you know what it was.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
I think the Flyers wanted him to stay and earn his
spot on the team.
They wanted him to go back tothe farm and he didn't.
Hey, go ahead, leave, yeah, youleft.
So you could have leftgracefully, yep, but you decided
to be a dick about it.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
And when you be a dick.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
He literally was like I don't want to play for this
team and when you're a dickabout it in the city of
Philadelphia understand it'sgoing to come back and bite you
in the ass.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
It's not even just the city of Philadelphia, I
think the city of Philadelphia,philadelphia, it's pretty
lenient when you go out to thosereal hockey heads out in Delco
oh bro, if they could get theirhands on you they'd fuck you up.
They're not forgiving,especially out in Delco,
especially when it comes.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
I'll say they're still worse with the Eagles,
though no basketball.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Delco has no room for error with the.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Eagles, they will not tolerate it.
None, there's some animalsaround, delco man yeah they will
not tolerate.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
So I live in North Philly.
We're pretty hardcore aboutthem.
We don't—I don't think we go ashard—and I could be corrected,
but I don't think we go as hardas Delco.
And the only reason I can speakto Delco is because I'm
originally from Delco.
I've just been living in Phillyfor like 12, 14, 15 years now,
so, but I know, I know the Delcosports fan.
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I've experienced them and theydon't have the patience, no, for
even a bad quarter of football.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Nope, from the Eagles .
You should see some of the bars, dude.
I'm telling you right now offootball.
From the Eagles.
You should see some of the bars, dude.
I'm telling you right now someof the bars we went to, that we
go to for games, shout out.
Brewskis Shout out JT BrewskisShout out Marty McGee's Shout
out Casey's.
I'm trying to think of otherones we go to for Eagles games.
Those are definitely the topthree, but honestly Marty
McGee's is probably the ones wego to for Eagles games the most,
most, but anyway, um, yeah,there's, there's, there's no
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there's no quarter.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
No, there's no quarter, no, um, and, and you
can say that's being over, overpassionate I wouldn't even I
mean I.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
They're just another level of passionate.
It's it.
Yes, they are obnoxious,there's no doubt about it.
But I will tell you right nowthey are, they care.
It's an undying love for thatfootball team.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
So I'm going to put Eagles first.
No, I'm going to put the Eaglesfirst for.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Delco.
I can't.
I'm going to put the Eaglesfirst for Delco.
Oh, I thought you were talkingabout it for yourself.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
I'm going to put the Eagles first for Delco.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Sixers are there, but they haven't been there since
Allen Iverson, I agree.
So if you're on Delco,understand it's a different
breed of sports fan.
You know what?
The only people I know that cankeep up with Delco when it
comes to passion and fire isSouth Philly, because y'all are
cousins practically.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
South Philly is.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Yeah, they might as well be connected south philly
and delco.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
I mean it is outrageous I agree sometimes how
incredibly insane they can be Imean, look at yo you ever?
Speaker 1 (12:03):
you ever been to?
I'm sure you have, but you everbeen to chicken pizza in south,
south philly?
I real talk, please.
I'm very fucking hard.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
I'm very honest, I've never been to chicken pete's
okay I've never been to livecasino fair down there um.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
I that's not the part that goes delco.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Chicken pete's goes delco I prefer it's crazy when
there's games on it's nuts Ihave been to an eagles game so
I'm not gonna sit there and belike no, I've been to an eagles
game.
I experienced a little bit oftailgating before the game.
I remember walking into thestadium and guys just handing me
random beers as we walk intothe stadium, dude tailgating in
an Eagles game is another animal.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Yeah, it's another animal.
I mean, it's insane.
I've tailgated for.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Phillies games.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
A number of Phillies games, Flyers games, et cetera,
et cetera, but I've onlytailgated, I believe two.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
I mean they're roasting whole pigs out there.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
I think it was either two or three Eagles games I've
tailgated and it is another.
It's just one huge party.
It's just, and the cool thingis that everyone loves each
other.
That's the thing Everyone loveseach other in the tailgating.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Yo, you want a beer man, yo, can you get me a beer
man.
It's like that, and you canwalk from parking spot to
parking spot and they'll come upto you and if they've got a
sandwich on hand here, bro havea sandwich.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
There you go, have a sandwich.
Yo yo come play a.
Play a game with cornhole withus.
It's the best.
People are pulling out theircornhole sets and shit oh, we
need, we need a plus one come on, it's the best they'll just
randomly come up to you, They'llliterally pull you.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
I'm like yo, I need a plus one Come on.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
I will never deny that the Eagles fan base
probably has the most fun out ofany fan base of any sport I
could possibly even think of.
I think that is and evenincluding the ones that I love,
as you know, with the Flyers andPhillies, they come first for
me.
But I got to be honest Eaglesfans have way more fun.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I think it gets lost on the media, though, how
innately good we are to eachother, and I had Vikings fans
sitting behind.
Remember we came back fromBusch Gardens, remember.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
And I had the home opener that night, monday Night.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Football that was Vikings.
That was Vikings.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Vikings-Eagles home opener Monday Night Football.
We had Vikings fans sittingbehind us.
I never treated them badly.
Mm-mm, we had Vikings fanssitting behind us.
I never treated them badly.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
The people around me didn't treat them badly.
Wow, that's rare.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
At the end of the day , when it was over, did we?
Laugh a little bit yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
You guys lost.
Friendly banter is a differentstory.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
It's when it gets to physical bullshit when it's too
much.
There's no reason.
It's a sport, do they?
Speaker 2 (14:30):
pay your bills?
No, fuck, no, do they careabout?
Speaker 1 (14:33):
or even know who you are Fuck no, there's no reason.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
I hate Eagles fans getting so drunk that they fight
other.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Eagles fans.
It's the worst, or.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Eagles fans getting so drunk that they're purposely
looking for, but it happens inevery single NFL franchise.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
It does.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
That has fans.
It's happened but withinPhiladelphia.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
You know, whose fan base gets to be rowdy is the
Flyers.
Yeah, they get to be rowdybecause if they're, especially
if they're facing a squad, thatis like one of our rivals.
Man, I've seen a.
I saw this video.
It was disgusting.
One of our Flyers fan literallycrawled over several rows of
chairs just to cold cock a guybecause he was happy about a
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goal.
He literally crawled overseveral rows of chairs just to
cold cock this guy.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I'm like come on, man .
So here's the thing I thinkPhilly has decided.
One of our theme songs is noone likes us, we don't care, so
for a long time.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
And, honestly, sometimes I understand why
people don't like it.
I think even as.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Philly fans deep down when we do some self-reflection
, sometimes I understand whypeople don't like it.
I think we I think even asphilly fans deep down when we do
some self-reflection weunderstand why.
Yeah, but every every year,every year, without fail, espn
always has to bring up santaclaus.
Everyone has to bring up santaclaus and we always explain why
santa claus happened.
It was a skinny 18 year old kid, drunk off his ass.
There were kids in the standthat believe in santa.
He wasn't acting like SantaClaus, so he got pelted with
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snowballs.
I'm sorry, like you're notacting like Santa Claus, you're
acting like a drunk moron.
You're ruining this figure forkids around.
Kids are crying.
Why is Santa acting like that?
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Why is Santa drunk?
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Why is he so skinny?
Why is he stumbling?
Why is he cussing Like this?
What?
This is Santa.
So the parents were like, allright, fuck it, You're going to
get snowballed.
And he got pelted, and so itwent all over the news and it
defined us as a fan base to thisday, and I think Eagles fans
have tried, especially my age,my age bracket I'm 37.
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I think from 2004 on they'vetried.
They've tried to show a betterside, but the media doesn't want
to show it.
So I think-.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
It's because they love to bash Eagles fans.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Right, so I think we just-.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Unless the Eagles are actually doing good, much like
the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Well, we just embraced and said fuck it, we'll
be villains.
We just embraced the villainrole and said fuck it, we tried
to rectify the situation.
You don't want us to rectifythe situation, you want villains
.
We'll be your fucking villains.
So now we're going to be yourvillains.
That's why we Vikings fansVikings fans to this day, who
went to the NFC Championshipgame before we went to our first
Super Bowl, Vikings fans tothis day talk shit on
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Philadelphia are still angryabout how their fans were
treated in Philly.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Well, I mean, they're going to like here's the thing
If you're coming to Philly,expect the Philly treatment
period.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Be warned about it.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
If you're coming to Philly in a different jersey.
100%, that's what I'm saying.
Why do you think me being aNiners fan?
Again, I've made it clear thatI am an Eagles fan too, but
that's why me being a Niners fanfirst, when I went to see the
Eagles play the Niners in thehome opener back in what?
2022?
Something like that?
No, that might have been 21.
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I can't remember now.
21, maybe I can't rememberanyway.
Long story short.
Now you know what I think thiswas pre-covid okay, so this
might be 19 18 yeah, it mighthave been 19 anyway.
So this is why, when I went, Igotta, I gotta tell you right
now I was not wearing any sortof I had.
I did have a nines shirt on,but it was um a t-shirt it was
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just a t-shirt and you could seeit, but it was just like light
red.
It was like very like subtleand I was wearing a philly's hat
just to mix up the whole thing.
I was like it's like wait aminute, wait a minute it's like
it's a go wait you're.
You're one of us, but you're notone of us.
Just confuses shit out ofeverybody.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Well, I mean yes.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
And then you know what, when they scored shit like
that, I didn't do anything.
That was it.
Listen, I know how it works,man, I'm not messing around.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Getting off the fans and all that stuff, because I've
always had a ton to say aboutthe fans.
The one thing I will say isleave my quarterback alone he
has proven more than provenhimself you know what ash?
I don't know if you're stillwatching dan and I.
I have no problem leavingcomments on anybody's.
I'm always respectful, soanytime I saw dan put down jalen
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, I always let him know politelyI was never out of pocket?
I would never be, I would neverdare um.
But I always like nah, man, dondon't talk about my quarterback
like that.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
You're not.
He's not the only one man.
People went at him.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
He was like nah, nah, he's terrible, he's awful.
He's not the quarterback forthe Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Dude Jalen did not have high hopes from the city of
Philadelphia, I got to tell you, and I loved him the first two
seasons I had a lot of hope inhim and then I started to not
going to lie.
I got a little nervous and thenhe pulled out probably the best
game of his entire career,which just so happened to be in
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the most previous Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Against the ever so great Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
I want to say that I understand that people judge
quarterbacks by stats and Ithink, when you argue with Can't
look at stats all the time,well, here's the thing.
That's what everyone's doingwhen it comes to Jalen.
That's why they're devaluinghis Super Bowl.
That's why they're devaluinghis importance to the team is
because he's not Joe Burrow,throwing for 5,000 yards and 46
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touchdowns every year.
And the thing is is here.
Listen, I understand.
I understand why you are arguingwith stats, because it's very
hard to argue with math.
If the math is right, there'sno way to unprove it.
You cannot undo it.
So if the math is staring youin the face saying this is the
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math, this is true, theequations have been done right,
how do you argue against that?
It's very hard.
You could say intangibles, hewins, blah, blah, blah.
But at the end of the day,those who hang on to stats and
judge a player by their statswill always win the debate
because they have the numbers toback it up.
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They don't care aboutintangibles because they and
they don't care about wins.
Man, all jalen does is win.
What do people say?
Winning is a team stat.
It's not an individual stat,because he's not playing an
individual sport.
Now, if it was tennis, right,okay you can count wins
different story as an individualstat because he's not playing
an individual sport.
Now, if it was tennis, right,okay, you can count wins.
Different story as anindividual stat.
So people don't give him thewins and people judge him solely
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based on his quarterbacking andthe fact that he doesn't throw
for 350 yards a game and fourtouchdowns.
And people get upset about thatbecause that's what they want
to see.
That's that old schoolquarterback that sits in the
pocket, throws the ball,dissects defenses and, yes, is
it pretty to watch?
Is it amazing to watch?
Yes, but what you're notunderstanding is that when jalen
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has to make the plays, jalenmakes the plays and I won't
disagree that what I love aboutjalen hurts is he.
He's told you several times thisyear, even to Eagles fans he
said the game is going to lookhow Jalen Hurts wants it to look
.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
I mean, it is his stage.
He said the game is going to—With the balls in his hands.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
That's what he said.
He said Jalen Hurts is going tomake the game how he wants it
to look.
And then he made it very clearbefore the Super Bowl interviews
.
After the Super Bowl, I do notcare about my individual stats,
I care about winningchampionships.
So call me the weakest link onthe team, call me whatever you
want.
Tell me I'm not an elitequarterback.
Tell me I'm a barely aboveaverage quarterback.
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At the end of the day, I justwalked away as a Super Bowl MVP
and a Super Bowl champion, andyou can never take that from me
Goddamn right, and that's it.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Yeah, and honestly, between two players that were
very unexpected for that game tolook so goddamn good were him
and Jake Elliott.
Jake, man, jake redeemedhimself, bro Jake redeemed
himself.
And at the best time that youcould have redeemed yourself as
a kicker.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
I mean we're talking 40.
He looked incredible 48 yardsout.
He looked amazing.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Nothing, I mean it was awesome, it was amazing, it
was awesome.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
He said, all right, it's money time.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Yeah, it's time to go .
Speaker 2 (23:00):
It was either this or he was going to be probably not
on the team the next day andthe crazy thing was If he did
shit, I guarantee he would never.
Yeah, but Howie had justextended him this season for
another four years, Right.
So Howie had faith in Jake.
Howie had faith in Jake, butthen the playoffs came.
The end of the season.
The playoffs came.
He was missing, but it wasn'tjust him.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
This year was a bizarre year for NFL kickers, it
was Justin Tucker keep it inyour fucking pants, justin
Tucker.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
My God, what is it with NFL players and getting a
fucking massage?
Do you need to come after everymassage?
Is it mandatory?
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Yes, sorry, I'm not an NFL star.
This is irrelevant.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
As you heard, that Don't let this man go get a
massage.
He'll be like heavy ending.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
She's my massager.
That's the best part.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
But what I'm saying is kickers were a mess this year
.
The whole league was a messthis year when it came to.
When it came to that it wasawesome.
In my lifetime I realized howlucky I am to have witnessed the
and been a part of Super Bowlwins.
Okay, it's one thing getting tothe Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
I'm not going to lie, it's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
It's beautiful getting to the Super Bowl.
Ah man, you're so excited.
It hurts like hell when youlose.
You don't know if you're goingto win.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
I do envy you, though , because obviously I was only
five years old when the Ninerswon the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
I don't remember that you were like.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Power Rangers are more important than this.
That's the reason why I becamea Niners fan.
But I don't remember that,right?
I just know that I was a Ninersfan, right?
That's all I know.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
So it's an amazing experience to have that Our
first Super Bowl came and we hadto wait 50 years, 50 some years
, for our first Super Bowl, 50some years to get our first
Super Bowl, 50-some years to getour first Super Bowl.
That's a lifetime man.
Then we go back.
In 2022, we lose to the Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
And then the Niners lost to the Chiefs the year
after.
That Isn't that crazy.
Here's the thing, and this iswhere all the knocking comes in
it was a staggered.
Did you notice that it was astaggered appearances?
Speaker 2 (25:07):
It was Eagles, niners , niners, eagles.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Yeah, isn't that crazy.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Right, so Niners went Back to back Super Bowls.
Niners lost.
Back to back Super Bowls.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
To the Chiefs no, that's where it wasn't back to
back.
Well, it might have there wasone year In between there.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Oh no, you're right.
You're right.
I think LA won, you're right.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Yep Shit the Bengals, Bengals.
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Right, la won a Super Bowl in between that, so it was
Niners.
But regardless.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
They lost both Super Bowls.
They performed against theChiefs with.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Right.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
But they did go to the bitter end in the most
recent one, and that was inovertime.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Right.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
But however, God damn , am I happy you guys took care
of business.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
You know, and I made this crazy analogy right so we
look at the first Super Bowl winthat we had.
It was literally during the TomBrady reign.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Yes, it was.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
And they had just won .
The year before they were goingfor two in a row and if they
had won, history dictates thatthey would have been the first
team to three-peat, because theywon the year after.
We beat them with tom.
So we interrupt the dynasty andthen we go back and we start a
dynasty and then we interruptthe dynasty again.
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We we not end it, but weinterrupt another one.
So I'm equating the eagles towhen the nfl fandom is getting
fatigue of one team alwayswinning.
Here come the eagles, shine ourlittle light in the sky, we
don't get it done and then we'lldisappear until the next afc
tyrant comes around, and thenwe'll be back and I kind of like
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that I do too.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
I kind of like, yeah, I do too.
I mean I like that.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
I mean it's kind of the um you know five years in
between, okay, as long as we'recompetitive, of course you want
to win, but that's.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
But honestly, five years in between, two Super Bowl
wins sounds really goodcompared to one Super Bowl win
in the last 50.
You know what I'm saying.
Dallas Cowboys haven't won aSuper Bowl in 30 years.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
The San Francisco 49ers haven't won a Super Bowl
in 28 years.
They have collectively betweenthe two of them they have what
for rubbing it in collectivelybetween the two of them?
They have what 11 championships?
Speaker 1 (27:15):
cowboys have five, niners have six niners have five
, no five, so they have 10.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
They have 10 between them collectively yeah and both
of them are going on almost anequal run of and then look at
the one on look at the steelers.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
I can't say, look at the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
I can't say mediocrity True.
I can't say mediocrity, becauseat least the San Francisco
49ers have been to NFCChampionship games and have gone
back to the Super Bowl.
What I cannot say about DallasCowgirl fans to their team, that
whole organization that's runby decrepit old men, those guys
(27:51):
that poor guy.
Those guys right those guys,those guys have been mediocre at
best, for 30 years At best.
And you know what?
Go ahead, wave your five SuperBowls in my face.
We got two, we're on our way.
Washington watch out becausewe're going to get three, and
then we're going to be tied.
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And then New York watch outbecause we're going to get four,
and then Cowboys watch outbecause we're going to get five.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
I guess the Niners got to watch out too.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Well, you know, the Niners don't have a team anymore
because they traded away orreleased absolutely everybody.
I've heard people even sayplease.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
By the way, me and Brandon Are throwing hands After
this episode, except he's justgonna Literally just take my,
take my small ass and throw meout the front door.
Oh, we got some food.
That's the difference.
Oh, it looks like there's foodAt the front door.
We got some food at the frontdoor.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
This is why we love doing podcasts.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
In real time.
There is food.
There's food being dropped offFor the family, for the family.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
So hold on, Let me check.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
So quick pause.
I want to talk to you guys fora little bit.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Oh, we're already a half hour in.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Well, look at that Wow.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
We got to get better at this.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
We're going to get better at this.
We're going to get better atthis.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Just bear with us.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Did they just?
They just left it there.
We told them to leave it at thefront door.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
We're going to end this episode in like all right
five minutes.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
And that stinks, because you're going to get to
talk about the parade, the wind.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Let's just say it was magical, it was beautiful.
We had a beautiful Super Bowlparty at my house.
I invited Kev, but little did Iknow that a couple of weeks
before Don had already claimedthe spot and everything like
that.
If we ever get to the superbowl again or I feel like we're
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going to do it I'll make sure toinvite kev like three months in
advance.
But we had a beautifulgathering here with family and
friends and we got to watchjalen hurts.
Uh, just um, dominate, justbeing dominate, just do what he
needs.
You know how gratifying it wasfor you to text me and say Dan
said yeah, I'm eating shit rightnow.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
He literally I'm eating crow right now.
He literally he was right nextto me.
He said Kev, I need you to textBrandon real quick.
I said why?
And he was like I need you totell him how wrong I was.
That's what I like about Dan,and we'll eat his words like
that.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
That was.
It was so vindicating for Jalen.
The commercial that they didfor him was amazing.
Oh yeah, love Hurts commercial.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Yeah, love, hurts Love it.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
The parade was fantastic Over a million people.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Ashley had a blast.
Oh, by the way.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
She had ran into Ashley.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah she suredid.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Yeah, there was some bar that was kind of sort of
near the art museum, I believe.
Yeah, I think it was like Tom's.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
No, tom's, yeah, it's around there, around there.
But they ran into each other.
Great parade Thankfully itwasn't, you know, scarred by
anything.
Truly terrible Chiefs who hadpeople murdered at their parade.
That does suck.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
I got to say something really quick about the
parades, though this is insane.
So for people who may not knowthis the equivalent to both the
World Series parade back in 2008to the Eagles parade in 2025
still did not have the numberthat the Broad Street Bullies
aka the Flyers back in 75 hadstill did not have the number
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that the Broad Street bullies,aka the Flyers back in 75 had
2.5 million people.
Something like that.
And they couldn't even keepcount, because the reason why is
there was no barriers.
Back then they didn't know whatto expect.
The streets were just flooded.
They didn't have all that shitwhere they could just blot numb.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
And that is insane.
Let's understand why At thispoint in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
It's a time.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
At that point in the 70s in Philadelphia sports
history.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Brand new stuff.
Brand new stuff.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
The Sixers were not good, the Eagles were not good,
the Phillies were eh.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Yeah, Flyers were the Eagles of current day,
basically the.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Flyers were king of everything, yep.
And I want to get back there tothose times and when they won,
it made sense Chaos Because ofthe times, yep, because of the
times.
Anyway, guys, listen, that'sepisode three.
We're learning and we're goingto do better and we're going to
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give you four, five and in, Iguess, two weeks time or
whenever we can get backtogether, you're going to have
three episodes.
Then you have another threeepisodes.
We're going to make sure thatyou have content as consistently
as we can give it to you.
Uh and uh, hopefully you had agood time.
It's great to be back go,flyers go, fly go.
Phils and the eagles are stillthe super bowl champs, still a
26, saquon Barkley.
Thank you, new York, and withthat, my dear sweet brother
Numsy.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Yeah, we hit the and another there.
It is All right, guys, have awonderful, wonderful day.
Whatever you're doing, We'llsee you next time.
definitely not as bad this time.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I turned it down, you turned it down.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Hey, welcome back to the third third third episode of
the rambling den.
This is sylvia's favorite topicabsolutely sports boys.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Anyway, welcome sports to the rambling den.
Live from philadelphia, pa, inthe good old usa.
We love you.
Thank you for coming in.
Thank you for coming in thenand joining us tonight.
We are, uh, really happy tohave you.
I am brandon and my co-host,kevin, and we are simply
ecstatic to be back behind themic.
(00:43):
You may know us from a formershow, the bks show.
Uh, we uh are doing a littleside project now.
Uh, while bks show is underunder construction mish
maintenance, I don't know um, Iwould say standing, but not
operating standing, but notoperating there we go with the
coaster shit again.
Yeah, there we go.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Hey, we just finished the coaster episode and it kind
of works.
Yeah, you can refer to that inthe last episode.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Here we are, and it is, and live again, and live
again on.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Twitch.
If you want to follow us alongfor the ride in action, go ahead
to our Twitch.
All of the links are in oursocial medias and you know bios,
it's that are in our socialmedias, and you know bios and
that and the third.
So if you want to come alongfor the ride and you know, see
our beautiful faces.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
So we are going to do something, and that is, I think
, in our link tree, once we getthese podcasts up and once we
get them published, and you cango to wherever you like to
listen to podcasts and listen tothe podcast in the link tree.
I will provide you to, I willprovide you guys with our
(01:49):
Instagrams, uh, the ones wherewe uh, I'm a drone photographer,
so that's mostly what you'regoing to see.
There's drone, uh, dronepictures, a couple of selfies,
give that man a follow for thelove of God, we give that man a
follow, uh, and then you'll seeKevin's Instagram as well.
Give that man a follow.
He does, when he feels like it,take absolutely amazing
(02:09):
pictures, especially productphotography.
I tell him all the time, buthe's a little bitch about it
sometimes.
Thank you, I want to take apicture.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I have to be in the mood, yeah, but I mean you'll
see nonstop stories you know ofme, like what's on my wrist of
that day.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Or he's always let you guys know what he's up to
who he's with.
This weekend got a big weekendup in the Poconos, which I do
intend to bring the camera.
Intend, intend.
Intend Doesn't mean it'll beused.
I don't make promises anymore.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Wow, I don't make promises anymore.
That hurts my feelings.
Listen, I do my best.
My feelings are hurt.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Because the guy has an eye and when he wants to he
can produce extremely greatphotographs and you'll see that
once I provide the link to ourpersonal Instagrams.
You'll see my eye with a dronein the sky.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
My eye with a drone in the sky.
Didn't even know it.
There we go.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
My eye with a drone in the sky.
Oh hey, I didn't even know.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
There we go um my eye with a drone in the sky.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Um, you know, we had, we did have planes, uh, and,
and one of them was toeventually get up to the pocono
so that I could fly that thingout there still gonna happen
we're, we're gonna get it there,kev, we're gonna get a round
two of uh, because I have suchbetter command over the drone
now and I know what I'm doingnow we're gonna get around to of
a car shoot uh, because thefirst one did pretty well, but I
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think what I know now I canreally knock it out of the park.
We're talking 400 feet in thesky and kev's just driving
through a nicely wooded area andit just looks beautiful, that
orange orange just popping.
Like.
I've got ideas.
I love ideas.
We'll talk about dronephotography and photography,
maybe in episode four.
Maybe that's one thing we'lltalk about.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
It might be the next one.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
But right now we're going to talk about the
E-A-G-L-E-S Eagles Eagles.
Now, I said that lightly, nottoo loud.
Why?
Why, you ask.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
well, because I was about to say.
I was like I'm scared, what'sgoing on?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
so you got like super sound.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
You're like little whale.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Look everything, oh my god as you know, kevin and I
uh are major uh sports fans forcertain sports.
So, kevin's, uh, I'm gonna rankkev's, I'm gonna see if I get
this right.
I'm going to put baseball first.
No Damn Okay.
So this is why.
Right, okay, so no.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
I mean it's very close.
I'm going to think about it.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
I'm going to put hockey first, then I'm going to
put baseball, then I'm going toput football.
Correct, and everything elsecan suck a dick.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
I wouldn't say suck a dick.
Um, when they suck a dick, wellI would actually put I would
actually believe it or not, Iwould actually put some forms of
racing over basketball andstuff like that.
Too.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Well, basketball, because like, the basketball is
a dead sport right now and it'ssomething I could go on and on
about.
It's a terrible.
There's a terrible product outthere.
Yeah, uh, the players are fullyguaranteed contracts.
But I mean I would love,wouldn't you love, to get a
fully guaranteed contract and uh, guess what?
You, you, you can take offwhenever you want.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
You don't have to show up Must be nice, right.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
You don't have to show up to work, you don't.
You don't have to be there.
All those people paying ticketsto come see you and your name
and see you play basketballbecause they believe in you and
they believe in the team.
They want to win a championship, but you need load management,
mind you.
Base they believe in the team.
They want to win a championship, but you need load management,
mind you.
Baseball players play 162 gamesHockey, which is the most
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physical besides football, whichis the most physical, taxing
game, because you fight, you getbody checked, you get slammed
into the ice, you're going 100miles an hour.
You're chasing after a puck.
That's this big.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
And getting beamed with one of those things, dude.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
It's, it's, it's probably our most.
Thank you, canada, it's most ofour.
One of our most violent,fastest Fucking love hockey man
Sport Fucking love hockey thatwe have.
Those guys play 82 games justlike, just like the, just like
the NBA, yet they have a muchmore physically demanding and
(06:08):
none of those guys, none ofthose guys will take a day off
if they don't have to.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
And not just that, they don't get paid jack shit
compared to any of the othersports.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Exactly so.
They show up for the fans.
They show up because they havegood work ethic.
They show up when they'rebattered.
They show up when they'rebroken because, at the end of
the day, they're playing for theguy next to them.
They're playing for a dream,they're playing to get a Stanley
Cup and that's what they wantto do.
And that kind of mentality ismissing from the NBA.
(06:35):
The NBA has become unwatchable.
Everybody's just jacking threes.
I love Steph Curry.
Steph Curry is a unique player,a generational talent.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
I hear his name thrown around a lot, but again,
I'm so out of the game withbasketball.
I haven't been in the whole inthe know with basketball since
the fucking Jordan and Iversondays, bro, and that's when
basketball was actually awesome.
It was awesome.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
What did you think?
Iverson Steph Curry is the mostelite three-point shooter that
has ever existed.
I mean pure shooter, I meanthis guy is that right?
he is.
I mean, you're talking halfcourt shots, bro, like nothing,
like nothing and in doublecoverage, like this guy is
special, he is special and uh,he, he, he set records, he's,
(07:21):
he's made the most three pointsin nba history.
He's, he is lethal, uh and uh I.
He started to make that kind ofshot popular and the next thing
you know, um, now, now, this,this is the nba today.
Nobody's driving down themiddle.
You got guys that are sevenfoot tall, like like joella and
bead and wendy, some giants theythree-pointers instead of
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dominating the paint, I mean.
Joel Embiid, though he seems tobe made of glass, could
literally score 40 a night.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
It's between him and Carson Wentz, probably the two,
mr Glenn and Ben Simmons.
Ben Simmons.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
And any idiot who didn't want to play for the
Flyers.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Oh yeah, that guy, yes, oh that idiot.
He came, he's on the Ducks nowhe's on the Ducks.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
He went and put on a lighter shade of orange.
He didn't want to play for us.
He didn't want to play for us.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
The shade that he had at that first game this year.
I was crying.
He deserved it.
At that first game this year, Iwas crying.
He deserved it and they gotabsolutely rocked Yep, molly
whopped Yep.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
And you know what he deserved every single boo he got
.
I can't even remember the guy'sname because-.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Me neither.
I'm drawing a blank.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
He had an he was said to be a generational talent.
That guy, he was supposed to bespecial.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
And he's not even that good.
That's the funny thing.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
He could have been.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
He could have been.
Could have been If you're onthe right squad, but he was in
the he's on he didn't want to dothe work.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I don't think he wanted to do the work.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
No, you know what it was.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
I think the Flyers wanted him to stay and earn his
spot on the team.
They wanted him to go back tothe farm and he didn't.
Hey, go ahead, leave, yeah, youleft.
So you could have leftgracefully, yep, but you decided
to be a dick about it.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
And when you be a dick.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
He literally was like I don't want to play for this
team and when you're a dickabout it in the city of
Philadelphia understand it'sgoing to come back and bite you
in the ass.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
It's not even just the city of Philadelphia, I
think the city of Philadelphia,philadelphia, it's pretty
lenient when you go out to thosereal hockey heads out in Delco
oh bro, if they could get theirhands on you they'd fuck you up.
They're not forgiving,especially out in Delco,
especially when it comes.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
I'll say they're still worse with the Eagles,
though no basketball.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Delco has no room for error with the.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Eagles, they will not tolerate it.
None, there's some animalsaround, delco man yeah they will
not tolerate.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
So I live in North Philly.
We're pretty hardcore aboutthem.
We don't—I don't think we go ashard—and I could be corrected,
but I don't think we go as hardas Delco.
And the only reason I can speakto Delco is because I'm
originally from Delco.
I've just been living in Phillyfor like 12, 14, 15 years now,
so, but I know, I know the Delcosports fan.
(10:10):
I've experienced them and theydon't have the patience, no, for
even a bad quarter of football.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Nope, from the Eagles .
You should see some of the bars, dude.
I'm telling you right now offootball.
From the Eagles.
You should see some of the bars, dude.
I'm telling you right now someof the bars we went to, that we
go to for games, shout out.
Brewskis Shout out JT BrewskisShout out Marty McGee's Shout
out Casey's.
I'm trying to think of otherones we go to for Eagles games.
Those are definitely the topthree, but honestly Marty
McGee's is probably the ones wego to for Eagles games the most,
most, but anyway, um, yeah,there's, there's, there's no
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there's no quarter.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
No, there's no quarter, no, um, and, and you
can say that's being over, overpassionate I wouldn't even I
mean I.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
They're just another level of passionate.
It's it.
Yes, they are obnoxious,there's no doubt about it.
But I will tell you right nowthey are, they care.
It's an undying love for thatfootball team.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
So I'm going to put Eagles first.
No, I'm going to put the Eaglesfirst for.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Delco.
I can't.
I'm going to put the Eaglesfirst for Delco.
Oh, I thought you were talkingabout it for yourself.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
I'm going to put the Eagles first for Delco.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Sixers are there, but they haven't been there since
Allen Iverson, I agree.
So if you're on Delco,understand it's a different
breed of sports fan.
You know what?
The only people I know that cankeep up with Delco when it
comes to passion and fire isSouth Philly, because y'all are
cousins practically.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
South Philly is.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Yeah, they might as well be connected south philly
and delco.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
I mean it is outrageous I agree sometimes how
incredibly insane they can be Imean, look at yo you ever?
Speaker 1 (12:03):
you ever been to?
I'm sure you have, but you everbeen to chicken pizza in south,
south philly?
I real talk, please.
I'm very fucking hard.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
I'm very honest, I've never been to chicken pete's
okay I've never been to livecasino fair down there um.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
I that's not the part that goes delco.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Chicken pete's goes delco I prefer it's crazy when
there's games on it's nuts Ihave been to an eagles game so
I'm not gonna sit there and belike no, I've been to an eagles
game.
I experienced a little bit oftailgating before the game.
I remember walking into thestadium and guys just handing me
random beers as we walk intothe stadium, dude tailgating in
an Eagles game is another animal.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Yeah, it's another animal.
I mean, it's insane.
I've tailgated for.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Phillies games.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
A number of Phillies games, Flyers games, et cetera,
et cetera, but I've onlytailgated, I believe two.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
I mean they're roasting whole pigs out there.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
I think it was either two or three Eagles games I've
tailgated and it is another.
It's just one huge party.
It's just, and the cool thingis that everyone loves each
other.
That's the thing Everyone loveseach other in the tailgating.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Yo, you want a beer man, yo, can you get me a beer
man.
It's like that, and you canwalk from parking spot to
parking spot and they'll come upto you and if they've got a
sandwich on hand here, bro havea sandwich.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
There you go, have a sandwich.
Yo yo come play a.
Play a game with cornhole withus.
It's the best.
People are pulling out theircornhole sets and shit oh, we
need, we need a plus one come on, it's the best they'll just
randomly come up to you, They'llliterally pull you.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
I'm like yo, I need a plus one Come on.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
I will never deny that the Eagles fan base
probably has the most fun out ofany fan base of any sport I
could possibly even think of.
I think that is and evenincluding the ones that I love,
as you know, with the Flyers andPhillies, they come first for
me.
But I got to be honest Eaglesfans have way more fun.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I think it gets lost on the media, though, how
innately good we are to eachother, and I had Vikings fans
sitting behind.
Remember we came back fromBusch Gardens, remember.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
And I had the home opener that night, monday Night.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Football that was Vikings.
That was Vikings.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Vikings-Eagles home opener Monday Night Football.
We had Vikings fans sittingbehind us.
I never treated them badly.
Mm-mm, we had Vikings fanssitting behind us.
I never treated them badly.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
The people around me didn't treat them badly.
Wow, that's rare.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
At the end of the day , when it was over, did we?
Laugh a little bit yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
You guys lost.
Friendly banter is a differentstory.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
It's when it gets to physical bullshit when it's too
much.
There's no reason.
It's a sport, do they?
Speaker 2 (14:30):
pay your bills?
No, fuck, no, do they careabout?
Speaker 1 (14:33):
or even know who you are Fuck no, there's no reason.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
I hate Eagles fans getting so drunk that they fight
other.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Eagles fans.
It's the worst, or.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Eagles fans getting so drunk that they're purposely
looking for, but it happens inevery single NFL franchise.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
It does.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
That has fans.
It's happened but withinPhiladelphia.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
You know, whose fan base gets to be rowdy is the
Flyers.
Yeah, they get to be rowdybecause if they're, especially
if they're facing a squad, thatis like one of our rivals.
Man, I've seen a.
I saw this video.
It was disgusting.
One of our Flyers fan literallycrawled over several rows of
chairs just to cold cock a guybecause he was happy about a
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goal.
He literally crawled overseveral rows of chairs just to
cold cock this guy.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I'm like come on, man .
So here's the thing I thinkPhilly has decided.
One of our theme songs is noone likes us, we don't care, so
for a long time.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
And, honestly, sometimes I understand why
people don't like it.
I think even as.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Philly fans deep down when we do some self-reflection
, sometimes I understand whypeople don't like it.
I think we I think even asphilly fans deep down when we do
some self-reflection weunderstand why.
Yeah, but every every year,every year, without fail, espn
always has to bring up santaclaus.
Everyone has to bring up santaclaus and we always explain why
santa claus happened.
It was a skinny 18 year old kid, drunk off his ass.
There were kids in the standthat believe in santa.
He wasn't acting like SantaClaus, so he got pelted with
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snowballs.
I'm sorry, like you're notacting like Santa Claus, you're
acting like a drunk moron.
You're ruining this figure forkids around.
Kids are crying.
Why is Santa acting like that?
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Why is Santa drunk?
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Why is he so skinny?
Why is he stumbling?
Why is he cussing Like this?
What?
This is Santa.
So the parents were like, allright, fuck it, You're going to
get snowballed.
And he got pelted, and so itwent all over the news and it
defined us as a fan base to thisday, and I think Eagles fans
have tried, especially my age,my age bracket I'm 37.
(16:30):
I think from 2004 on they'vetried.
They've tried to show a betterside, but the media doesn't want
to show it.
So I think-.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
It's because they love to bash Eagles fans.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Right, so I think we just-.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Unless the Eagles are actually doing good, much like
the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Well, we just embraced and said fuck it, we'll
be villains.
We just embraced the villainrole and said fuck it, we tried
to rectify the situation.
You don't want us to rectifythe situation, you want villains
.
We'll be your fucking villains.
So now we're going to be yourvillains.
That's why we Vikings fansVikings fans to this day, who
went to the NFC Championshipgame before we went to our first
Super Bowl, Vikings fans tothis day talk shit on
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Philadelphia are still angryabout how their fans were
treated in Philly.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Well, I mean, they're going to like here's the thing
If you're coming to Philly,expect the Philly treatment
period.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Be warned about it.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
If you're coming to Philly in a different jersey.
100%, that's what I'm saying.
Why do you think me being aNiners fan?
Again, I've made it clear thatI am an Eagles fan too, but
that's why me being a Niners fanfirst, when I went to see the
Eagles play the Niners in thehome opener back in what?
2022?
Something like that?
No, that might have been 21.
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I can't remember now.
21, maybe I can't rememberanyway.
Long story short.
Now you know what I think thiswas pre-covid okay, so this
might be 19 18 yeah, it mighthave been 19 anyway.
So this is why, when I went, Igotta, I gotta tell you right
now I was not wearing any sortof I had.
I did have a nines shirt on,but it was um a t-shirt it was
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just a t-shirt and you could seeit, but it was just like light
red.
It was like very like subtleand I was wearing a philly's hat
just to mix up the whole thing.
I was like it's like wait aminute, wait a minute it's like
it's a go wait you're.
You're one of us, but you're notone of us.
Just confuses shit out ofeverybody.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Well, I mean yes.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
And then you know what, when they scored shit like
that, I didn't do anything.
That was it.
Listen, I know how it works,man, I'm not messing around.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Getting off the fans and all that stuff, because I've
always had a ton to say aboutthe fans.
The one thing I will say isleave my quarterback alone he
has proven more than provenhimself you know what ash?
I don't know if you're stillwatching dan and I.
I have no problem leavingcomments on anybody's.
I'm always respectful, soanytime I saw dan put down jalen
(19:05):
, I always let him know politelyI was never out of pocket?
I would never be, I would neverdare um.
But I always like nah, man, dondon't talk about my quarterback
like that.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
You're not.
He's not the only one man.
People went at him.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
He was like nah, nah, he's terrible, he's awful.
He's not the quarterback forthe Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Dude Jalen did not have high hopes from the city of
Philadelphia, I got to tell you, and I loved him the first two
seasons I had a lot of hope inhim and then I started to not
going to lie.
I got a little nervous and thenhe pulled out probably the best
game of his entire career,which just so happened to be in
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the most previous Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Against the ever so great Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
I want to say that I understand that people judge
quarterbacks by stats and Ithink, when you argue with Can't
look at stats all the time,well, here's the thing.
That's what everyone's doingwhen it comes to Jalen.
That's why they're devaluinghis Super Bowl.
That's why they're devaluinghis importance to the team is
because he's not Joe Burrow,throwing for 5,000 yards and 46
(20:17):
touchdowns every year.
And the thing is is here.
Listen, I understand.
I understand why you are arguingwith stats, because it's very
hard to argue with math.
If the math is right, there'sno way to unprove it.
You cannot undo it.
So if the math is staring youin the face saying this is the
(20:38):
math, this is true, theequations have been done right,
how do you argue against that?
It's very hard.
You could say intangibles, hewins, blah, blah, blah.
But at the end of the day,those who hang on to stats and
judge a player by their statswill always win the debate
because they have the numbers toback it up.
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They don't care aboutintangibles because they and
they don't care about wins.
Man, all jalen does is win.
What do people say?
Winning is a team stat.
It's not an individual stat,because he's not playing an
individual sport.
Now, if it was tennis, right,okay you can count wins
different story as an individualstat because he's not playing
an individual sport.
Now, if it was tennis, right,okay, you can count wins.
Different story as anindividual stat.
So people don't give him thewins and people judge him solely
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based on his quarterbacking andthe fact that he doesn't throw
for 350 yards a game and fourtouchdowns.
And people get upset about thatbecause that's what they want
to see.
That's that old schoolquarterback that sits in the
pocket, throws the ball,dissects defenses and, yes, is
it pretty to watch?
Is it amazing to watch?
Yes, but what you're notunderstanding is that when jalen
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has to make the plays, jalenmakes the plays and I won't
disagree that what I love aboutjalen hurts is he.
He's told you several times thisyear, even to Eagles fans he
said the game is going to lookhow Jalen Hurts wants it to look
.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
I mean, it is his stage.
He said the game is going to—With the balls in his hands.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
That's what he said.
He said Jalen Hurts is going tomake the game how he wants it
to look.
And then he made it very clearbefore the Super Bowl interviews
.
After the Super Bowl, I do notcare about my individual stats,
I care about winningchampionships.
So call me the weakest link onthe team, call me whatever you
want.
Tell me I'm not an elitequarterback.
Tell me I'm a barely aboveaverage quarterback.
(22:23):
At the end of the day, I justwalked away as a Super Bowl MVP
and a Super Bowl champion, andyou can never take that from me
Goddamn right, and that's it.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Yeah, and honestly, between two players that were
very unexpected for that game tolook so goddamn good were him
and Jake Elliott.
Jake, man, jake redeemedhimself, bro Jake redeemed
himself.
And at the best time that youcould have redeemed yourself as
a kicker.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
I mean we're talking 40.
He looked incredible 48 yardsout.
He looked amazing.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Nothing, I mean it was awesome, it was amazing, it
was awesome.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
He said, all right, it's money time.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Yeah, it's time to go .
Speaker 2 (23:00):
It was either this or he was going to be probably not
on the team the next day andthe crazy thing was If he did
shit, I guarantee he would never.
Yeah, but Howie had justextended him this season for
another four years, Right.
So Howie had faith in Jake.
Howie had faith in Jake, butthen the playoffs came.
The end of the season.
The playoffs came.
He was missing, but it wasn'tjust him.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
This year was a bizarre year for NFL kickers, it
was Justin Tucker keep it inyour fucking pants, justin
Tucker.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
My God, what is it with NFL players and getting a
fucking massage?
Do you need to come after everymassage?
Is it mandatory?
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Yes, sorry, I'm not an NFL star.
This is irrelevant.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
As you heard, that Don't let this man go get a
massage.
He'll be like heavy ending.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
She's my massager.
That's the best part.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
But what I'm saying is kickers were a mess this year
.
The whole league was a messthis year when it came to.
When it came to that it wasawesome.
In my lifetime I realized howlucky I am to have witnessed the
and been a part of Super Bowlwins.
Okay, it's one thing getting tothe Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
I'm not going to lie, it's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
It's beautiful getting to the Super Bowl.
Ah man, you're so excited.
It hurts like hell when youlose.
You don't know if you're goingto win.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
I do envy you, though , because obviously I was only
five years old when the Ninerswon the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
I don't remember that you were like.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Power Rangers are more important than this.
That's the reason why I becamea Niners fan.
But I don't remember that,right?
I just know that I was a Ninersfan, right?
That's all I know.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
So it's an amazing experience to have that Our
first Super Bowl came and we hadto wait 50 years, 50 some years
, for our first Super Bowl, 50some years to get our first
Super Bowl, 50-some years to getour first Super Bowl.
That's a lifetime man.
Then we go back.
In 2022, we lose to the Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
And then the Niners lost to the Chiefs the year
after.
That Isn't that crazy.
Here's the thing, and this iswhere all the knocking comes in
it was a staggered.
Did you notice that it was astaggered appearances?
Speaker 2 (25:07):
It was Eagles, niners , niners, eagles.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Yeah, isn't that crazy.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Right, so Niners went Back to back Super Bowls.
Niners lost.
Back to back Super Bowls.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
To the Chiefs no, that's where it wasn't back to
back.
Well, it might have there wasone year In between there.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Oh no, you're right.
You're right.
I think LA won, you're right.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Yep Shit the Bengals, Bengals.
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Right, la won a Super Bowl in between that, so it was
Niners.
But regardless.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
They lost both Super Bowls.
They performed against theChiefs with.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Right.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
But they did go to the bitter end in the most
recent one, and that was inovertime.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Right.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
But however, God damn , am I happy you guys took care
of business.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
You know, and I made this crazy analogy right so we
look at the first Super Bowl winthat we had.
It was literally during the TomBrady reign.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Yes, it was.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
And they had just won .
The year before they were goingfor two in a row and if they
had won, history dictates thatthey would have been the first
team to three-peat, because theywon the year after.
We beat them with tom.
So we interrupt the dynasty andthen we go back and we start a
dynasty and then we interruptthe dynasty again.
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We we not end it, but weinterrupt another one.
So I'm equating the eagles towhen the nfl fandom is getting
fatigue of one team alwayswinning.
Here come the eagles, shine ourlittle light in the sky, we
don't get it done and then we'lldisappear until the next afc
tyrant comes around, and thenwe'll be back and I kind of like
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that I do too.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
I kind of like, yeah, I do too.
I mean I like that.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
I mean it's kind of the um you know five years in
between, okay, as long as we'recompetitive, of course you want
to win, but that's.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
But honestly, five years in between, two Super Bowl
wins sounds really goodcompared to one Super Bowl win
in the last 50.
You know what I'm saying.
Dallas Cowboys haven't won aSuper Bowl in 30 years.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
The San Francisco 49ers haven't won a Super Bowl
in 28 years.
They have collectively betweenthe two of them they have what
for rubbing it in collectivelybetween the two of them?
They have what 11 championships?
Speaker 1 (27:15):
cowboys have five, niners have six niners have five
, no five, so they have 10.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
They have 10 between them collectively yeah and both
of them are going on almost anequal run of and then look at
the one on look at the steelers.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
I can't say, look at the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
I can't say mediocrity True.
I can't say mediocrity, becauseat least the San Francisco
49ers have been to NFCChampionship games and have gone
back to the Super Bowl.
What I cannot say about DallasCowgirl fans to their team, that
whole organization that's runby decrepit old men, those guys
(27:51):
that poor guy.
Those guys right those guys,those guys have been mediocre at
best, for 30 years At best.
And you know what?
Go ahead, wave your five SuperBowls in my face.
We got two, we're on our way.
Washington watch out becausewe're going to get three, and
then we're going to be tied.
(28:13):
And then New York watch outbecause we're going to get four,
and then Cowboys watch outbecause we're going to get five.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
I guess the Niners got to watch out too.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Well, you know, the Niners don't have a team anymore
because they traded away orreleased absolutely everybody.
I've heard people even sayplease.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
By the way, me and Brandon Are throwing hands After
this episode, except he's justgonna Literally just take my,
take my small ass and throw meout the front door.
Oh, we got some food.
That's the difference.
Oh, it looks like there's foodAt the front door.
We got some food at the frontdoor.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
This is why we love doing podcasts.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
In real time.
There is food.
There's food being dropped offFor the family, for the family.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
So hold on, Let me check.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
So quick pause.
I want to talk to you guys fora little bit.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Oh, we're already a half hour in.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Well, look at that Wow.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
We got to get better at this.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
We're going to get better at this.
We're going to get better atthis.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Just bear with us.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Did they just?
They just left it there.
We told them to leave it at thefront door.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
We're going to end this episode in like all right
five minutes.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
And that stinks, because you're going to get to
talk about the parade, the wind.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Let's just say it was magical, it was beautiful.
We had a beautiful Super Bowlparty at my house.
I invited Kev, but little did Iknow that a couple of weeks
before Don had already claimedthe spot and everything like
that.
If we ever get to the superbowl again or I feel like we're
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going to do it I'll make sure toinvite kev like three months in
advance.
But we had a beautifulgathering here with family and
friends and we got to watchjalen hurts.
Uh, just um, dominate, justbeing dominate, just do what he
needs.
You know how gratifying it wasfor you to text me and say Dan
said yeah, I'm eating shit rightnow.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
He literally I'm eating crow right now.
He literally he was right nextto me.
He said Kev, I need you to textBrandon real quick.
I said why?
And he was like I need you totell him how wrong I was.
That's what I like about Dan,and we'll eat his words like
that.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
That was.
It was so vindicating for Jalen.
The commercial that they didfor him was amazing.
Oh yeah, love Hurts commercial.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Yeah, love, hurts Love it.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
The parade was fantastic Over a million people.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Ashley had a blast.
Oh, by the way.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
She had ran into Ashley.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah she suredid.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Yeah, there was some bar that was kind of sort of
near the art museum, I believe.
Yeah, I think it was like Tom's.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
No, tom's, yeah, it's around there, around there.
But they ran into each other.
Great parade Thankfully itwasn't, you know, scarred by
anything.
Truly terrible Chiefs who hadpeople murdered at their parade.
That does suck.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
I got to say something really quick about the
parades, though this is insane.
So for people who may not knowthis the equivalent to both the
World Series parade back in 2008to the Eagles parade in 2025
still did not have the numberthat the Broad Street Bullies
aka the Flyers back in 75 hadstill did not have the number
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that the Broad Street bullies,aka the Flyers back in 75 had
2.5 million people.
Something like that.
And they couldn't even keepcount, because the reason why is
there was no barriers.
Back then they didn't know whatto expect.
The streets were just flooded.
They didn't have all that shitwhere they could just blot numb.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
And that is insane.
Let's understand why At thispoint in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
It's a time.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
At that point in the 70s in Philadelphia sports
history.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Brand new stuff.
Brand new stuff.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
The Sixers were not good, the Eagles were not good,
the Phillies were eh.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Yeah, Flyers were the Eagles of current day,
basically the.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Flyers were king of everything, yep.
And I want to get back there tothose times and when they won,
it made sense Chaos Because ofthe times, yep, because of the
times.
Anyway, guys, listen, that'sepisode three.
We're learning and we're goingto do better and we're going to
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give you four, five and in, Iguess, two weeks time or
whenever we can get backtogether, you're going to have
three episodes.
Then you have another threeepisodes.
We're going to make sure thatyou have content as consistently
as we can give it to you.
Uh and uh, hopefully you had agood time.
It's great to be back go,flyers go, fly go.
Phils and the eagles are stillthe super bowl champs, still a
26, saquon Barkley.
Thank you, new York, and withthat, my dear sweet brother
Numsy.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Yeah, we hit the and another there.
It is All right, guys, have awonderful, wonderful day.
Whatever you're doing, We'llsee you next time.
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