June 13, 2025 • 19 mins
Why is it so hard to do what’s good for us—even when we know better?
In this episode, Dr. Nashay Lowe sits down with health and wellness coach Jessica Lasisch to unpack the internal conflicts we face on the road to better health. They explore how self-sabotage often masks deeper emotional needs, how negative self-talk undermines progress, and why true transformation starts with mindset—not willpower. You’ll hear powerful insights on the connection between health, emotional healing, and the narratives we carry about our bodies. If you’ve ever felt stuck in the start-stop cycle of your wellness journey, this episode offers a new, compassionate way forward.
Key takeaways
- Life gets in the way of health; it's about capacity, not willpower.
- Cultural differences shape our approach to health and wellness.
- Mental roadblocks like anxiety and stress affect physical health.
- Self-sabotage often stems from the nervous system's protective instincts.
- Negative self-talk is linked to shame and unmet emotional needs.
- Rewriting one's narrative begins with self-awareness and unpacking old beliefs.
- Holistic health involves connecting with body, mind, and soul.
- Small, consistent changes lead to sustainable health improvements.
- Support and safe spaces are crucial for discussing health struggles.
- Health doesn't have to be hard; mindset shifts can make it enjoyable.
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Dr. Shay (00:01):
Welcome back to The Resolution Room, where we turn
(00:22):
tension into transformationthrough clarity, connection, and
consistency.
I'm your host, Dr.
Nashay Lowe, and this is aspace where we explore what's
really underneath the momentsthat challenge us and how they
can lead to something morehonest, more human, and more
whole.
So let's get into it.
Today's episode is all aboutthe internal battles we face on
(00:42):
the path to better health.
So I'm joined by health andwellness coach, Jessica Lasisch,
who helps people shift theirmindset and build habits that
stick.
So together, we're exploringthe intersection of health,
self-talk, and internalconflict, things like why it's
so hard to do what's good foryou, how self-sabotage shows up
(01:03):
in disguise, and what it reallytakes to change from the inside
out.
So if you've ever felt likeyour biggest challenge is you,
this one's for you.
So thank you for coming,Jessica.
How are you today?
Jessica Lasisch (01:15):
I'm very good.
Thank you for having me.
Dr. Shay (01:18):
Of course.
You look lovely.
Jessica Lasisch (01:20):
Thank you.
You too.
Dr. Shay (01:23):
Thank you.
Thank you.
So let's start off bydiscussing why do we struggle to
do what's good for us.
So we often know what to do,but still don't do it.
And this is incredibly truewhen it comes to health.
I'm sure you know better thananyone.
So why do you think that is?
Jessica Lasisch (01:41):
Well, you know, from experience and from what I
hear all the time from myclients, it's not that people
don't know what's good for them.
It's that life gets in the way,right?
Most of them, they're jugglingjust too much work, kids,
responsibilities.
And by the end of the time,they forget about themselves.
(02:02):
And then they're so exhausted.
So they care, but They are justso tired and burned out.
And before spending time in thekitchen and preparing some
healthy food, just quick, quicktaking, calling an Uber, Uber
Eats.
Don't want to promote Uberhere, but...
And then they're just tired todo the workout and they forget.
(02:27):
It's not about their willpower.
It's all about the capacity.
How much time do you have in aday?
What can you fit in?
Dr. Shay (02:37):
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
And we'll talk a little lateron about specific strategies we
can use to address that.
But I guess let's take it backa second and think about the
perspective and how we look athealthcare and just fitness and
wellness in general in theUnited States.
So you're actually from Vienna,Austria, correct?
Jessica Lasisch (02:55):
Correct.
Yes.
Dr. Shay (02:57):
Awesome.
And so I guess from yourperspective, now living in the
United States, Just as far asperspective goes, how does the
way we look and learn abouthealth and wellness in the U.S.
versus Europe impact the way weapproach it?
Jessica Lasisch (03:13):
Well, you know, I mean, when I think back 10
years ago when I came here tothe U.S., you know, I was
surprised at how much food iseverywhere and how easy you have
access.
Everything is already packed.
is already made and you justopen the box and you eat it
(03:34):
wherever you are so When I thinkback, my grandmother brought
veggies from her backyard.
We picked the fruits from ourtrees.
So it was all home cooking.
She baked her own bread.
And that was, you know, the wayhow you grow up, how you learn
about food is so, so differentthan here in America, the
(03:56):
American diet.
And it's mostly processed,quick opening, something special
here in New York City.
And we forget about howimportant it is to nourish our
body because if our body getsnot nourished very well it also
affects our mind
Dr. Shay (04:16):
exactly um and your personal transition how was it
hard for you to keep to yourdiet when you once you got here
and saw how accessibleeverything was
Jessica Lasisch (04:27):
it was not easy and it was really You know, no
wonder you don't spend time inyour kitchen anymore and prepare
food.
You just go get something forlunch, bring it in your office.
Then at night you go out and ofcourse it changes your body.
So first I had really struggledwith this American diet and
with the lifestyle to adjustfrom my beautiful Vienna to
(04:51):
Coming to New York City, it waschallenging.
Yeah,
Dr. Shay (04:59):
and in general for yourself during that transition
and just thinking about a lot ofwomen's fitness and wellness
journeys, what are some of themost common mental roadblocks
that you see in people trying tobe healthier?
Jessica Lasisch (05:11):
Yeah, I mean, there are a lot and But the
common ones is anxiety, notenough sleep, depression,
chronic stress, and just alwaysburned out and exhaustion.
And I think they're reallyconnected because when you're
(05:32):
not sleeping well, then yourmood is off.
And when you are anxious andconstantly stressed, your body
holds on the weight, yourcraving goes up and your stuck
in all this cycle and fatigue.
And it's not just about eatinghealthy or moving more.
It's about getting the root ofwhat's draining your energy
(05:57):
mentally and emotionally.
Dr. Shay (06:00):
Excellent point in balancing what's mentally and
emotionally going on versus whatyour body is physically going
through.
So how do you distinguishbetween genuine self-sabotage
and just our nervous systemtrying to keep us comfortable
and safe?
Jessica Lasisch (06:15):
Yeah, it's an important point because what we
often call self-sabotage, it'sactually the nervous system
doing its job, right?
Its work.
Trying to protect us fromdiscomfort, from fear or the
overall change.
It's not like people feel lazyor unmotivated.
(06:40):
So Instead of pushing us alwaysharder, I try to remind and
help my clients and to slow downand ask what part of me feels
unsafe right now, right?
Think about what is it, whatmakes you feel unsafe?
And that's how the shift, youknow, the shift comes then in
(07:04):
this question and through thiswork and then change is really
happening.
Dr. Shay (07:10):
And going a little deeper on that, what are some
signs that someone's internalconflict is actually rooted in
shame or unmet emotional needsrather than lack of discipline?
Jessica Lasisch (07:22):
Good question, doctor.
Good question.
So...
One of the biggest thing in theway someone talks about
themselves, right?
How they talk with their self,with their body is there's
always, I'm not good.
(07:43):
I'm not enough.
I always mess up.
So it's negative talk.
And that's usually not aboutdiscipline.
I think it's related to shame.
And another sign is whensomeone keeps setting the same
goals over and over and neverfeels proud or satisfied or
(08:03):
never says it's enough.
And in most cases, it's notabout willpower.
It's about emotional needs thatwere never really met.
Maybe they didn't feelsupported or safe or when
they're growing up in thechildhood, but they were
constantly criticized so nowthey're you know they're chasing
(08:25):
some health goals not from aplace out of love but from a
place of needing to prove I'msomebody or needing to prove
somebody else
Dr. Shay (08:38):
and so In that sort of next conversation of them
building a healthier internalnarrative, in your coaching
practice, how do you help peoplerewrite the story that they
tell themselves about who theyare when it comes to food,
fitness, and body image?
Jessica Lasisch (08:54):
Yeah, rewriting the story always starts with
self-awareness.
Right.
Most of my clients, they cometo think, oh, I need a new diet.
I need a new nutrition.
I need a new supplement.
I need a different routine.
But what they really need is tounlearn the old beliefs they
(09:17):
have carried around over andover all these years.
Things like I have nodiscipline.
I'm too big.
I'm too overweight.
I always fail.
I'm not fit enough.
I'm not healthy.
So what I teach them in thecoaching sessions is gently
start to unpack where thosebeliefs came from.
(09:37):
Is it the comment someone madewhen you were younger or in your
office, a pattern they grow upwith?
And from there, we build a newidentity.
On that says, I know how totake care of myself.
I can trust my body.
I deserve to feel good.
(09:58):
That mindset shift is where thereal transformation then begins
with the clients.
Dr. Shay (10:05):
Yes, that is so powerful.
And it kind of makes me think,you know, gosh...
not to down anyone else'smethods, but of course there's
just so many of the quick fixes,the seven day challenges, the
30 day challenges, the five daydetox and every, all these
things.
How do you kind of find yourway through all the note or help
(10:27):
your client get through all thenoise of that and get to the
real transformation?
Jessica Lasisch (10:32):
That's a good question.
You know, What is always keyand what's always working,
setting SMART goals.
Step by step.
Don't push yourself.
Don't have negative thoughts.
Have fun with playing aroundnew routines.
(10:52):
Have fun with implementing newhabits in your lifestyle.
And be happy and listening toyour body because it will tell
you when you go in the rightdirection, your body will feel
better, right?
If you do something and youpunish yourself, then your body
will show, make alerts, and thenyou're not feeling comfortable.
(11:13):
So always, always important is,especially with women, connect
Connect with your body.
Connect with your mind.
Connect with your soul.
And be kind to yourself.
Dr. Shay (11:24):
And what I love about your approach, it sounds like
it's kind of hitting all of thepieces that go into healthcare
and fitness.
Because I think for a lot ofpeople, like you said earlier,
it's kind of just like, I'mgoing to start a new diet.
Or I'm just going to exercisethis many times per week.
And that's, to them...
the solution in itself and notall of the underlying pieces of
(11:47):
the mentality and theperspective and the emotional
parts of it.
So I love that you have likethis holistic approach to health
and wellness.
That's amazing.
Do you have a clientbreakthrough or a personal story
that illustrates how powerfulinternal reframing can be in
health transformation?
Jessica Lasisch (12:08):
Yeah.
So there was...
A powerful woman,businesswoman, she still has an
amazing high-level position, isalways on the go, super
successful.
That's okay.
Dr. Shay (12:25):
You don't have to talk about me.
It's okay.
Jessica Lasisch (12:27):
Go ahead.
I'm sorry.
But she always said to herself,she was one of the bigger
girls, and then she doesn't feelso good sometimes.
I mean, she was this powerwoman and comes to me But she
said, why I'm so successful inmy business, but why my body is
(12:50):
not doing what I want?
Why I cannot be successful withmy weight loss program?
So what we did, you know, likeI said before, smart goals, we
really adjust every week.
We took bad habits out.
We put good habits in.
But every week, step by step,we build a holistic health,
(13:11):
nutrition, wellness plan for mybody.
for her what fits in her busylifestyle as a businesswoman and
nothing extreme really smallsteps and most importantly we
worked on her mindset rightshifting the story from i'm
stuck in my body and and let'ssay my body deserved this i'm
(13:31):
i'm not stressed and i love myshape so after we did more also
mental mindset shift suddenlyher body starts losing losing
weight and she felt morecomfortable and more grounded
and uh because she was notstressing herself so much she
was finally working with herbody as well
Dr. Shay (13:55):
i love that um and so you started touching on this so
can you talk a little bit moreabout sort of the small shifts
that have the biggest impactwhen someone's kind of stuck in
this whole like start stop startstop cycle
Jessica Lasisch (14:09):
yeah yeah So I try to always remind them and
bring them back to small stepsbecause they want to go too much
and too fast and everythingneeds to happen right away.
But that's not going to work.
It's not then consistent.
So think something likelearning or explaining to them
(14:33):
Have a healthy, nourishingbreakfast.
And when you don't have time,make yourself a smoothie.
Don't grab on the way in acoffee store this unhealthy
croissant or the donuts orwhatever.
It's all sugar processed.
So building a non-negotiableroutine, for an example, the
night before breakfast, Get anice, beautiful lunchbox and
(14:56):
prepare some salad in there,what you can bring in your
office.
That's something what it helps.
But the biggest shift is how totalk to yourself.
Now we are back to this.
and how to talk to yourselfwhen things don't go so
perfectly.
That's where most people thenquit and the negative self-talk.
(15:18):
So I try to help clientspractice grace and get back on
track without any shame orguilt.
And that's when things reallystart to change, not from the
perfection, it's from theprogress they make.
Dr. Shay (15:37):
And just given all of your experience, what would you
say to someone who feels likethey're just constantly failing
in their health journey?
Jessica Lasisch (15:46):
Well, first, I would say you are not failing.
You're probably caring morethan anyone else, and they
probably feel stuck, and thereis maybe much more behind.
It's not about the food or theworkout.
It's They're usually somethingdeeper going.
They're maybe stressed or pasttrauma or even just never having
(16:11):
support or feeling safe to talkabout what's really going on
with them.
And so I feel like when someonealways fails and they come back
once a week or every two weeksand they're still, oh, I only
did my workout once or I onlydid this, I'm not good enough.
then I realize I have to dig alittle bit deeper because there
(16:37):
is way much physically,psychology behind that, right?
But it's be always positive andmotivation and give them the
support and the feeling that's asafe space so they can open up
and talk.
Dr. Shay (16:59):
Perfect.
And building on that...
What's one belief about healthor healing that you wish more
people would let go of?
Jessica Lasisch (17:08):
Yeah, I like this question.
I feel like clients say, oh,it's so hard to be healthy.
It's so hard to stay healthy.
It's so hard doing this anddoing this.
And that's what I said.
It doesn't need to be hard.
Just don't say this.
Don't keep saying it.
You need to have fun.
And when you shift your mindsetand you tune in in your body,
(17:31):
and then it's not, oh, I'm goingin the gym to burn all these
calorins because I had a pizzalast night.
and now I need to go in thegym.
No, now because when you shiftyour mindset, you go in the gym
and you are happy, you'reexcited to go in the gym because
then afterwards, this one hour,you feel fit, you're strong,
you have a good energy.
(17:52):
And then when you know andlearn what you really need to
eat and macronutrients, whatfills your body to stay healthy,
then it's not like thispunishment and this wrong
beliefs that they think Beinghealthy or losing weight, it's a
punishment.
It's so hard to do this.
Dr. Shay (18:15):
Well, Jessica, thank you so much for your insightful
conversation.
Please tell the people where tofind you and learn more about
your work and how to connectwith you.
Jessica Lasisch (18:28):
Yes, I'm based in New York City, but you can
find me and reach out through mywebsite.
It's my first name, Jessica,and my last name, Lasisch, so
jessicalasisch.com.
And I hope that was helpful formany, many people who are
listening today.
And Dr.
Shay, very, very grateful forthe conversation with you.
(18:50):
Thank you so much for having metoday.
Of
Dr. Shay (18:53):
course.
As always, thank you forjoining me today in the
Resolution Room.
I'm grateful you're here doingthis work alongside me.
If this episode spoke to you,I'd love for you to please
share.
And until next time, keepbuilding in the quiet because
that's what will carry youforward.
Welcome back to The Resolution Room, where we turn
(00:22):
tension into transformationthrough clarity, connection, and
consistency.
I'm your host, Dr.
Nashay Lowe, and this is aspace where we explore what's
really underneath the momentsthat challenge us and how they
can lead to something morehonest, more human, and more
whole.
So let's get into it.
Today's episode is all aboutthe internal battles we face on
(00:42):
the path to better health.
So I'm joined by health andwellness coach, Jessica Lasisch,
who helps people shift theirmindset and build habits that
stick.
So together, we're exploringthe intersection of health,
self-talk, and internalconflict, things like why it's
so hard to do what's good foryou, how self-sabotage shows up
(01:03):
in disguise, and what it reallytakes to change from the inside
out.
So if you've ever felt likeyour biggest challenge is you,
this one's for you.
So thank you for coming,Jessica.
How are you today?
Jessica Lasisch (01:15):
I'm very good.
Thank you for having me.
Dr. Shay (01:18):
Of course.
You look lovely.
Jessica Lasisch (01:20):
Thank you.
You too.
Dr. Shay (01:23):
Thank you.
Thank you.
So let's start off bydiscussing why do we struggle to
do what's good for us.
So we often know what to do,but still don't do it.
And this is incredibly truewhen it comes to health.
I'm sure you know better thananyone.
So why do you think that is?
Jessica Lasisch (01:41):
Well, you know, from experience and from what I
hear all the time from myclients, it's not that people
don't know what's good for them.
It's that life gets in the way,right?
Most of them, they're jugglingjust too much work, kids,
responsibilities.
And by the end of the time,they forget about themselves.
(02:02):
And then they're so exhausted.
So they care, but They are justso tired and burned out.
And before spending time in thekitchen and preparing some
healthy food, just quick, quicktaking, calling an Uber, Uber
Eats.
Don't want to promote Uberhere, but...
And then they're just tired todo the workout and they forget.
(02:27):
It's not about their willpower.
It's all about the capacity.
How much time do you have in aday?
What can you fit in?
Dr. Shay (02:37):
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
And we'll talk a little lateron about specific strategies we
can use to address that.
But I guess let's take it backa second and think about the
perspective and how we look athealthcare and just fitness and
wellness in general in theUnited States.
So you're actually from Vienna,Austria, correct?
Jessica Lasisch (02:55):
Correct.
Yes.
Dr. Shay (02:57):
Awesome.
And so I guess from yourperspective, now living in the
United States, Just as far asperspective goes, how does the
way we look and learn abouthealth and wellness in the U.S.
versus Europe impact the way weapproach it?
Jessica Lasisch (03:13):
Well, you know, I mean, when I think back 10
years ago when I came here tothe U.S., you know, I was
surprised at how much food iseverywhere and how easy you have
access.
Everything is already packed.
is already made and you justopen the box and you eat it
(03:34):
wherever you are so When I thinkback, my grandmother brought
veggies from her backyard.
We picked the fruits from ourtrees.
So it was all home cooking.
She baked her own bread.
And that was, you know, the wayhow you grow up, how you learn
about food is so, so differentthan here in America, the
(03:56):
American diet.
And it's mostly processed,quick opening, something special
here in New York City.
And we forget about howimportant it is to nourish our
body because if our body getsnot nourished very well it also
affects our mind
Dr. Shay (04:16):
exactly um and your personal transition how was it
hard for you to keep to yourdiet when you once you got here
and saw how accessibleeverything was
Jessica Lasisch (04:27):
it was not easy and it was really You know, no
wonder you don't spend time inyour kitchen anymore and prepare
food.
You just go get something forlunch, bring it in your office.
Then at night you go out and ofcourse it changes your body.
So first I had really struggledwith this American diet and
with the lifestyle to adjustfrom my beautiful Vienna to
(04:51):
Coming to New York City, it waschallenging.
Yeah,
Dr. Shay (04:59):
and in general for yourself during that transition
and just thinking about a lot ofwomen's fitness and wellness
journeys, what are some of themost common mental roadblocks
that you see in people trying tobe healthier?
Jessica Lasisch (05:11):
Yeah, I mean, there are a lot and But the
common ones is anxiety, notenough sleep, depression,
chronic stress, and just alwaysburned out and exhaustion.
And I think they're reallyconnected because when you're
(05:32):
not sleeping well, then yourmood is off.
And when you are anxious andconstantly stressed, your body
holds on the weight, yourcraving goes up and your stuck
in all this cycle and fatigue.
And it's not just about eatinghealthy or moving more.
It's about getting the root ofwhat's draining your energy
(05:57):
mentally and emotionally.
Dr. Shay (06:00):
Excellent point in balancing what's mentally and
emotionally going on versus whatyour body is physically going
through.
So how do you distinguishbetween genuine self-sabotage
and just our nervous systemtrying to keep us comfortable
and safe?
Jessica Lasisch (06:15):
Yeah, it's an important point because what we
often call self-sabotage, it'sactually the nervous system
doing its job, right?
Its work.
Trying to protect us fromdiscomfort, from fear or the
overall change.
It's not like people feel lazyor unmotivated.
(06:40):
So Instead of pushing us alwaysharder, I try to remind and
help my clients and to slow downand ask what part of me feels
unsafe right now, right?
Think about what is it, whatmakes you feel unsafe?
And that's how the shift, youknow, the shift comes then in
(07:04):
this question and through thiswork and then change is really
happening.
Dr. Shay (07:10):
And going a little deeper on that, what are some
signs that someone's internalconflict is actually rooted in
shame or unmet emotional needsrather than lack of discipline?
Jessica Lasisch (07:22):
Good question, doctor.
Good question.
So...
One of the biggest thing in theway someone talks about
themselves, right?
How they talk with their self,with their body is there's
always, I'm not good.
(07:43):
I'm not enough.
I always mess up.
So it's negative talk.
And that's usually not aboutdiscipline.
I think it's related to shame.
And another sign is whensomeone keeps setting the same
goals over and over and neverfeels proud or satisfied or
(08:03):
never says it's enough.
And in most cases, it's notabout willpower.
It's about emotional needs thatwere never really met.
Maybe they didn't feelsupported or safe or when
they're growing up in thechildhood, but they were
constantly criticized so nowthey're you know they're chasing
(08:25):
some health goals not from aplace out of love but from a
place of needing to prove I'msomebody or needing to prove
somebody else
Dr. Shay (08:38):
and so In that sort of next conversation of them
building a healthier internalnarrative, in your coaching
practice, how do you help peoplerewrite the story that they
tell themselves about who theyare when it comes to food,
fitness, and body image?
Jessica Lasisch (08:54):
Yeah, rewriting the story always starts with
self-awareness.
Right.
Most of my clients, they cometo think, oh, I need a new diet.
I need a new nutrition.
I need a new supplement.
I need a different routine.
But what they really need is tounlearn the old beliefs they
(09:17):
have carried around over andover all these years.
Things like I have nodiscipline.
I'm too big.
I'm too overweight.
I always fail.
I'm not fit enough.
I'm not healthy.
So what I teach them in thecoaching sessions is gently
start to unpack where thosebeliefs came from.
(09:37):
Is it the comment someone madewhen you were younger or in your
office, a pattern they grow upwith?
And from there, we build a newidentity.
On that says, I know how totake care of myself.
I can trust my body.
I deserve to feel good.
(09:58):
That mindset shift is where thereal transformation then begins
with the clients.
Dr. Shay (10:05):
Yes, that is so powerful.
And it kind of makes me think,you know, gosh...
not to down anyone else'smethods, but of course there's
just so many of the quick fixes,the seven day challenges, the
30 day challenges, the five daydetox and every, all these
things.
How do you kind of find yourway through all the note or help
(10:27):
your client get through all thenoise of that and get to the
real transformation?
Jessica Lasisch (10:32):
That's a good question.
You know, What is always keyand what's always working,
setting SMART goals.
Step by step.
Don't push yourself.
Don't have negative thoughts.
Have fun with playing aroundnew routines.
(10:52):
Have fun with implementing newhabits in your lifestyle.
And be happy and listening toyour body because it will tell
you when you go in the rightdirection, your body will feel
better, right?
If you do something and youpunish yourself, then your body
will show, make alerts, and thenyou're not feeling comfortable.
(11:13):
So always, always important is,especially with women, connect
Connect with your body.
Connect with your mind.
Connect with your soul.
And be kind to yourself.
Dr. Shay (11:24):
And what I love about your approach, it sounds like
it's kind of hitting all of thepieces that go into healthcare
and fitness.
Because I think for a lot ofpeople, like you said earlier,
it's kind of just like, I'mgoing to start a new diet.
Or I'm just going to exercisethis many times per week.
And that's, to them...
the solution in itself and notall of the underlying pieces of
(11:47):
the mentality and theperspective and the emotional
parts of it.
So I love that you have likethis holistic approach to health
and wellness.
That's amazing.
Do you have a clientbreakthrough or a personal story
that illustrates how powerfulinternal reframing can be in
health transformation?
Jessica Lasisch (12:08):
Yeah.
So there was...
A powerful woman,businesswoman, she still has an
amazing high-level position, isalways on the go, super
successful.
That's okay.
Dr. Shay (12:25):
You don't have to talk about me.
It's okay.
Jessica Lasisch (12:27):
Go ahead.
I'm sorry.
But she always said to herself,she was one of the bigger
girls, and then she doesn't feelso good sometimes.
I mean, she was this powerwoman and comes to me But she
said, why I'm so successful inmy business, but why my body is
(12:50):
not doing what I want?
Why I cannot be successful withmy weight loss program?
So what we did, you know, likeI said before, smart goals, we
really adjust every week.
We took bad habits out.
We put good habits in.
But every week, step by step,we build a holistic health,
(13:11):
nutrition, wellness plan for mybody.
for her what fits in her busylifestyle as a businesswoman and
nothing extreme really smallsteps and most importantly we
worked on her mindset rightshifting the story from i'm
stuck in my body and and let'ssay my body deserved this i'm
(13:31):
i'm not stressed and i love myshape so after we did more also
mental mindset shift suddenlyher body starts losing losing
weight and she felt morecomfortable and more grounded
and uh because she was notstressing herself so much she
was finally working with herbody as well
Dr. Shay (13:55):
i love that um and so you started touching on this so
can you talk a little bit moreabout sort of the small shifts
that have the biggest impactwhen someone's kind of stuck in
this whole like start stop startstop cycle
Jessica Lasisch (14:09):
yeah yeah So I try to always remind them and
bring them back to small stepsbecause they want to go too much
and too fast and everythingneeds to happen right away.
But that's not going to work.
It's not then consistent.
So think something likelearning or explaining to them
(14:33):
Have a healthy, nourishingbreakfast.
And when you don't have time,make yourself a smoothie.
Don't grab on the way in acoffee store this unhealthy
croissant or the donuts orwhatever.
It's all sugar processed.
So building a non-negotiableroutine, for an example, the
night before breakfast, Get anice, beautiful lunchbox and
(14:56):
prepare some salad in there,what you can bring in your
office.
That's something what it helps.
But the biggest shift is how totalk to yourself.
Now we are back to this.
and how to talk to yourselfwhen things don't go so
perfectly.
That's where most people thenquit and the negative self-talk.
(15:18):
So I try to help clientspractice grace and get back on
track without any shame orguilt.
And that's when things reallystart to change, not from the
perfection, it's from theprogress they make.
Dr. Shay (15:37):
And just given all of your experience, what would you
say to someone who feels likethey're just constantly failing
in their health journey?
Jessica Lasisch (15:46):
Well, first, I would say you are not failing.
You're probably caring morethan anyone else, and they
probably feel stuck, and thereis maybe much more behind.
It's not about the food or theworkout.
It's They're usually somethingdeeper going.
They're maybe stressed or pasttrauma or even just never having
(16:11):
support or feeling safe to talkabout what's really going on
with them.
And so I feel like when someonealways fails and they come back
once a week or every two weeksand they're still, oh, I only
did my workout once or I onlydid this, I'm not good enough.
then I realize I have to dig alittle bit deeper because there
(16:37):
is way much physically,psychology behind that, right?
But it's be always positive andmotivation and give them the
support and the feeling that's asafe space so they can open up
and talk.
Dr. Shay (16:59):
Perfect.
And building on that...
What's one belief about healthor healing that you wish more
people would let go of?
Jessica Lasisch (17:08):
Yeah, I like this question.
I feel like clients say, oh,it's so hard to be healthy.
It's so hard to stay healthy.
It's so hard doing this anddoing this.
And that's what I said.
It doesn't need to be hard.
Just don't say this.
Don't keep saying it.
You need to have fun.
And when you shift your mindsetand you tune in in your body,
(17:31):
and then it's not, oh, I'm goingin the gym to burn all these
calorins because I had a pizzalast night.
and now I need to go in thegym.
No, now because when you shiftyour mindset, you go in the gym
and you are happy, you'reexcited to go in the gym because
then afterwards, this one hour,you feel fit, you're strong,
you have a good energy.
(17:52):
And then when you know andlearn what you really need to
eat and macronutrients, whatfills your body to stay healthy,
then it's not like thispunishment and this wrong
beliefs that they think Beinghealthy or losing weight, it's a
punishment.
It's so hard to do this.
Dr. Shay (18:15):
Well, Jessica, thank you so much for your insightful
conversation.
Please tell the people where tofind you and learn more about
your work and how to connectwith you.
Jessica Lasisch (18:28):
Yes, I'm based in New York City, but you can
find me and reach out through mywebsite.
It's my first name, Jessica,and my last name, Lasisch, so
jessicalasisch.com.
And I hope that was helpful formany, many people who are
listening today.
And Dr.
Shay, very, very grateful forthe conversation with you.
(18:50):
Thank you so much for having metoday.
Of
Dr. Shay (18:53):
course.
As always, thank you forjoining me today in the
Resolution Room.
I'm grateful you're here doingthis work alongside me.
If this episode spoke to you,I'd love for you to please
share.
And until next time, keepbuilding in the quiet because
that's what will carry youforward.
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