More Goblining Than I Can Muster | The Right Stuff: A Blood Bowl Podcast | Episode Twenty Seven

In a somewhat blood-less week of Blood Bowl games, Yannie and Nathan decide to expand the criteria for the "In Memoriam" section and take the chance to reflect on their respective teams' development over Season 9.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcoming and everybody to another riveting episode The Right Stuff,
a football podcast brought to you nearby Empire games coming
out of sometimes Lovely, always shuffling towards death Anderson, South Carolina.

(00:29):
I'm hanning here with Nathan and I walking the story
in him immediately recording after getting back from Arkansas.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
So yeah, this is fun. Yeah, and you've shaved, which
is very disorienting for me. Not it won't be disoriented
because those listening to the podcast, because once again this
is in audio medium instead of a visual medium.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
We can make it disorienting for them.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Scott is brave enough stead of make a new logo
for the podcast. So yeah, we got you know, typical
of this season.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
We've got catch up games. I guess new games.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Will talk about some people have played ahead, so the
whole gamut of games.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yeah, just when you think the league is back on track,
we get drug back into the swamp. We've got a
real bog body situation going on here of time preserved
for years to come, where it's who knows whenever this
league is actually gonna finish.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Yeah, I mean I think it'll still finish in an
approximate time. Is just there's gonna be a whole bunch
of games that get crammed until one week. So yeah,
I hope people feel like having a tournament in the league.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Style, right right, essentially, Yeah, we've got a couple active
wind streaks right now. We would be talking about this
like under normal circumstances a little bit more. Right, When
everybody's at different points in the leagues, it's hard to
like know relative how well teams are dealing to others.
But some of the people who are current, you know,

(02:05):
there's there's two active four game win streaks, which I
think is worth noting because I do think both of
those players are on the rise, like their teams are
are looking difficult to beat, right.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yeah, all right, well, I guess we could just jump
in Sunny's recaps. We got one week five game Darn
Tutin and a rat Patui.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
Yep, that's a three to zero win for the Dwarves.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah. So the interesting thing here is that I think
it was after this game, or perhaps it was before
this game, you're again rolled another stat up on the
four strength runner and then he hit another strength up.
So Jurgen has a five strength runner on this team

(02:52):
and on dwarves. We were just talking about how you
like I cage. You just put a guard dude in,
a guard dude behind, and put the five strength dude
in the middle, and your opponent. If they run in
with a three strength dude, it's three dice your choice
if they try to blitz you, which is wild.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Yeah, It's like you don't even have to give the
illusion I'm trying to protect this player at this point.
They are just they can run off by themselves. Like,
what are you going to do bring three people over
to get I.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Mean, like griff is griff is seven speed, four strength, right,
I don't think we've ever seen an eight speed five
strengths player, with exception of maybe the Dark Elf that
one had, but yeah, I don't know. I mean, this
player looks so The noteworthy thing here is that this

(03:46):
player has sure hands, and one made that dark Elf
a legend without giving him any sort of strip ball protection,
which I think was incredibly greedy. And I wasn't gonna
like tell him that in person. But there's no way
to stop that from happening now because I think he
maxed out that character and so monstrous mouth or something, right,

(04:10):
because I think the way you deal with a character
like that is hit him with strip ball. Whatever it takes.
You just need you just need something to get the
ball out of their hands and then get it a
far away from the place, some sort of denial strategy
from there. So yeah, and I think you're a gon.
I was gonna say, I made notes of this somewhere else,

(04:30):
but his team basically has the mandate of Heaven. At
this point, you're not gonna get two strengths ups on
the same character without some sort of extra dimensional entity
looking after you.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
So yeah, I now feel compelled to try to get
a six strength Jaguar as the one person who could
beat the five strength runner. All the hustles will be faster,
So you right, or is that gonna put me? Yeah?
I think the question at that point is like, what's
the final skill you're giving that player.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
It's probably dodge. I mean, maybe you still go for
another start up, but I think that's like fifty SPP
or something like that. Yeah, which is what seventeen touchdowns?

Speaker 3 (05:13):
I mean, it's got thirty already, so he's got time
to make up.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
But I don't hate dodge just because that makes it
harder to knock that player down. You already have to
give up a whole bunch of stuff to try to
get something that's going to have enough strength to hit
a five strength player. One of the things that you're
probably gonna have to give up is like tackle, right,
you're gonna hit it with a big guy. Otherwise, Yeah,

(05:40):
I mean it's it's probably dodge.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
So yeah, all right, So that was our one week
five game. We got a couple weeks six games to talk.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
First off, we got our new entrick to the league
on the side, uh Nate with Goblin's looking for trouble
and soul peak dooms. Yes, yeah, they got a two
on win there doing some Goblin mayhem.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah. And due to the temporal flux nature of the league,
this was actually Nate's third game that he played, because
he ended up playing his games out of word to
try to get caught up. I will salutinate for joining
the league and then playing three games in a week

(06:25):
making up for lost time. He had mentioned a couple
of times that he was regretting not playing in the league,
and so three games of Goblins in a week is
it's probably more goblining than I could I could muster.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
So yeah, we came in to some immediate damage in
this game.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
It's kind of Yeah, the soul Peak dooms probably wish
they hadn't played this game. You had two players die.
A zombie dying is no big deal, but like a
Google dying kind of sucks. And then a movement down
on a guard mummy is brutal. That's like you have
to debate whether you send that character upstate or not,

(07:08):
just because the having a roll of four plus to
stand up is that's an awful on a mummy. But
then again, having guard means it's more likely to not
get knocked out.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
But I don't, I.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Don't know, I don't know, difficult to say. He also
had another movement down in that game on a goal which.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
You know, yeah, which had skills too, is a sure
hand school. I don't think you can fire that character.
It just sucks. Yeah, yep, yeah, two skills is really
hard to replace at this point.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah, you've only got like a handful of games left
turning out. How well you've been keeping up with your games?

Speaker 3 (07:41):
Right? So yeah, another Week six game was my game
against the skim Byte Skinner Stars. It's called I don't know.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
It wasn't really like my recap this game is it
wasn't really much of a game. It's one of those
things where it's like you just know, like as soon
as the initial kick off his rolled, there's like your
fate is sealed. Yeah, like Coop won a roll, we
kick off, it's a fisious ref. We both get hit, but.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
Since he is the one that's receiving the ball, he
has more people on the line, and both of us
lose someone on the line just to get stunned. I
mean he takes I think like three people off the
pitch on that first turn. So yeah, I was just
like I had three.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
People left going into turn eight and I got zero
knockouts back out of three.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
So that's just like, you know, clean, clean half.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
I guess the Radiger went down, fell down twice, couldn't
punish it. So I'm expecting the storing of Karmac justice
for some potential rematch. But yeah, I think one of
the big things that happens obviously. You know you mentioned
Nate playing catchup games. One of his catch up games

(09:01):
was Coop before this game, which the Radiger got two
catchies in an MVP.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
So he's able to get tackle.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yeah, francill Tail tackles a nightmare for Amazons.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Yeah, I couldn't really get away with Bomber was ridiculous,
which I think we should do.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
We could do an entire hour on Bomber.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Yeah, at some point I made He's at thirty two
appearances in one hundred and four matches, so he's at
over thirty.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
Percent, taking twice as often as Mork.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Yeah. Yeah, and that's like the Snarling teams are taking
more every time they play just about just about.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
So yeah, I'm gonna I will reserve my hatred for
Bomber in this moment.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
But I think we could do. I think we could
fix Bomber.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Yeah, he needs to cost like one hundred and fifty
or more.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
It should only play for bribery and corruption. Definitely, No
Tier one team should be able to take Bomber.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Yeah, it doesn't make sense on Skaping.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
Absolutely not no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
Way they need Like if they wanted like a warp
flame bomber thrower, dude, but like themed for Skavin or
something like that, that would be fine. But you know, like, yeah,
Bomber on Skeaven's kind of absurd. Bombar On works absurd.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Bomber yeah, they don't need it.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah, but mombar on Goblins is fine exactly.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
That's the thing given to the teams.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
That Slings have two rostered bombers for some reason. So yeah,
something you can do it.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Scave In should not have access to that, like or
make Illustrian bomber. Yeah, so I can fight back, right,
give you something? Yeah, but yeah, so that was that
was that game?

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Yeah, yeah, the next game, next.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
Game we have any other Week sixes it?

Speaker 2 (10:54):
I think the scave in White Skater Stars versus Looking
for Trouble was in that mix somewhere.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
Yeah, there's yeah, he's somewhere in here.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
That might have been a weak value game. I'm not
entirely sure. Maybe it was a week seven to one,
Like I said, it was seven. Yeah, that's a yeah,
we have a bunch of tiny, wimy stuff happening. Yeah,
it's hard to keep track of from a.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Yeah yes, PSA, please play games in a way that
makes sense.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
But yeah, that was a two.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
Oh I my game happened immediately after this, and it
seemed like Nate.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
Just like was not having good dice.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Yeah. So yeah, he entered the league, gave a bunch
of SVP to Coop didn't do damage to his team.
He didn't take a ton of damage, which is actually
kind of surprising for Goblins. I think the last several
times I've played Goblins, I've I've always put like five
casualties on the team, just like with regardless of the

(11:55):
team that I'm playing, like Goblins, if you've got the
right skills, Goblins just explode. So the fact that he
got out of that game without like a ton of
damage with something. Yeah, And I think it probably has
to do with the fact that Bomber just probably got
straight up to spelled to start with.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
So, Yeah, turns out that's really good. It's good to
keep Bomber off the field. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
And I think scaving are bad for the stunty teams because,
especially if you have like a secret up and heavy plan,
gutter Runners can just score and now you've got to
roll for your bribes.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
And the fact that gun runners are two strength means
they're at like parody with stunties, and so your stunny
players are really slow and you can probably swarm whoever
their ball carrier is in the backfield, depending on what
the kick looks like. Just with gutter Runners and the
gutter Runners have skills and aren't stunty, so like in

(12:51):
a straight up fight, the gutter Runner is actually adding
an advantage compared to the like a goblin or whatever.
And actually the stunties are lucky that the gutter Runners
no longer have a knife, because in previous versions of
the game, gutter Runners had stab. They had something called
weeping blade or whatever they could they could stab people with,

(13:12):
So I bring it back. Yeah, I'm glad. I'm glad
that it's not in the game because I already hate
gutter Runners and if they had, if the gun Runners
could also stab, they'd be absurd.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
Okay, we're out of our week eight games. Now we've
got some of these.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Oh right, first one up I've got is Arbor VT
and oops mostly in Irlings. That was one that we
were kind of anticipating, oh yeah last week, and it
was a two one win for Yeah Else.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
I would put this game as like an anti climax, yeah,
sort of, the wood Else execute their game plan of
get up ahead in touchdowns before you have to worry
about the fact that you don't have a team. It
actually looked pretty scarily early on because the tree Man

(14:02):
went down early in that game, and I was expecting
I was expecting like the floodgates to open if the
tree Man's gone. But sometimes the tree man is the
easiest person on the Woodelf team to hurt because he's
the slowest, and if he does get knocked down, sometimes

(14:22):
he's not going anywhere. And if you haven't knocked down
anybody else and you're just fouling the tree man, I
mean even with like if you're like fouling with like
plus two, you're not even favored to break the tree
man armor. So sometimes you're fine if the opponent just
keep stepping on your tree Man. You know the fact

(14:44):
that it went out that early and the black Gobba
was in the game, I was like, you don't necessarily
want two turns of fouling or two fouls a turn
on your Woodelf players.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Right, Yeah, I mean that's like the thing is, like
you got such fragile armor, such small, barely covered bones
that are so brittle and easy to some break. I
said this to someone who has you have to play else,
so you know it's.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
Prime in that.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
But yeah, like it was like similar ish to the
game I play against Chase, where it was like you're
able to kind of Once you have enough skills on
your players, you've got like bloggers, you're able to kind
of weather the worst.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
I think three die three die more block three, dive
more blitz into a blogger is like right at fifty
percent to knock you down. And so if Morg's only
knocking somebody down half the time, that means you only
got eight people on the ground through the course of
the game. And then even with mighty blow plus two,

(15:53):
he doesn't break armor for the time or sorry, it's
actually I guess it'd be like thirty percent of the time.
So eight times zero point seven, you know, that's like
six armor brakes on elves. And that's that's if you
are like rolling statistics, we average, which is we all

(16:16):
know is not the case of bloodball. You're never gonna
roll exactly what you're supposed to roll, right, You're gonna
roll slightly better or slightly worse, or a lot better
or a lot worse.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
Yes, so very true. All right, I've actually had I.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Was gonna say, I think that game also highlighted the
importance of stripball, because there were a couple of times
when More had the ball, and I believe that Ward answer,
just knocked it out of his hands, and then an
elf scooped up the ball and went running the other way.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
So s football is a pretty nasal skill.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Have it's a it's a very important situational tool.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yeah, I think that's like a thing I've noticed. I
like a lot of people who have been favoring some
amount of stootball.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
Yeah, that's one of those meta changes. That's like half
over the course of the league. Interesting to see.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
All right, I've actually got the Clobren catastrophe and it's
a legion of honesty, honor, and friendship. Uh, surprise, surprise,
Barber got taken in this game.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Wow, was taken twice. It was counter spelled.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Let's see. He was, Yeah, you gotta do that. But yeah,
two o win for the Orcs of Cloudburn Catastrophe. I
didn't really see any of this game any extra.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
Uh. The only insight that I had was there were
some early casualties against the black Works. Those got even out.
Those were like kind of made up for in the
second half. But I think by that point the damage
had been done. There was like a two skill black
Work that died and that game that kind of hurts

(17:51):
at this point in the season. It's not easy to
get that back on track, so you know, I mean,
it's just it looked like there was enough damage that
was done early that the regular Orcs were able to
kind of coast to victory. Bryson's still new, so I'm

(18:13):
still I'm sure he's still trying to like get his
sea legs under him.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
I don't necessarily love Black Works into regular Orcs. One
appeal for black Works is that six four strength dudes,
but like Henderson's team has got four Biggins, all have block,
a lot of them have guard, which means the Black
Ork team could find itself al positioned and al strengthed,

(18:44):
and that's just gonna be that's gonna be hard to
overcome as a new player. You could probably do it
as an experienced player, but as a new player you're
gonna have a hard time.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
So, oh, next game up.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
This is the last game I believe of Nate's three
game stand that we got to.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
Talk about this week. At least he's mostly caught up.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
So look, Ruble and Second Act was a one to
one draw and I caught some of this game and
it was wild. It was very interesting to watch. I
don't think you typically see goblins in a scrum like
they were, But Nate is fearless and really was like
getting in there with like he had a bunch of

(19:27):
people tied up. There's this mass of goblins and nobility
just all in the ball. There are a couple of
players got surfed. There were some players that probably should
have gotten served but did not. But the way that
that half ended, I think that Helen had kicked to Nate,
and then Halen was able to strip the ball out

(19:47):
in the middle of the scrum and run away with
a blitzer and then score.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
I don't think I've ever played a team that says
good at scrumming as nobility. Like if you just Civil
War style march to battle lines of people into each other,
and one team is nobility and the other team is
like literally anybody else, Like your opponent is throwing blocks
that just don't do anything. And there were a lot

(20:14):
of times I played against teams that were like stronger
than me, and all that guard and all that stand
firm and all that wrestle meant that you just come
out ahead. Even against teams like Necro that are also
really good at scrumbing. Neckro is probably the second best
team I've played at Scrumbing, just due to the positional
nature of like the Whites and the and the flesh Collums.

(20:36):
So that doesn't shock me that the Nobility came out
ahead in a scrum, but the fact that the game
ended in a draw is certainly interesting.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
That was surprising. I didn't catch the second half.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
I was able to stick around for the first half,
so I was really really surprised. I saw it up
as a draw. But I feel like if you're if
you need a Goblin team to score like ata down,
you're probably do that. I think like, if you're trying
to get the Galance score like three touchdowns, that's gonna
be where you're gonna be.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Tough unless you're like rolling out of your mind.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Yeah, so that was that was a spot where I
was like, okay, yeah, but yeah, so I think Nate
has like a loss of drawing to win.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
That's not bad. I mean, in the league at five
hundred is not is very respectable.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
Yes, all right, next up, we got your game against
the wolf Pack.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Yes, So if you remember when I was talking about
how Joel was like the unluckiest roller I had played
against all season, we got to amend that statement. Warren
rolled terribly. Now I rolled fairly decent against Joel. Against Warren,

(21:49):
my dice were bad. They were pretty bad. I made
a comment somewhere in there that I think I would
have struggled to break snotling armor, because I had like
seven consecutive armor breaks against dwarves are that were four

(22:11):
or less three one two two two one snake eyes.
And the reason it was noteworthy is because you have
the same odds of rolling two three four as you
do ten, eleven, twelve, right, because of the nature of
the bell curve of the statistic like the statistical bell

(22:32):
curve for two D six. So every time I rolled
a four, I was like, oh, that's just as likely
as if me rolling a ten, because that's part of
like if you ever play craps at a casino or
something like that, that's something four and ten or like
good numbers to bet on. But anyway I was, I
was seeing those fours show up with like an alarming frequency.

(22:58):
Warren gifted me to casualty in this game. He threw
he threw I think it was around twelve one die blocks,
or at the very least he rolled twelve block dice
at one time. He used some re rolls on him,
so I think it was twelve total. It may not
have been twelve total one die blocks, but he rolled

(23:19):
one die twelve times.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
And so.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
Eight of those were skulls, which is pretty bad, and
so two of those got converted into casualties. Now, he
took Grim iron Jaw because he has like a classic
old metal Graham iron Jaw, and it's really cool looking.
He's like in this like this traditional troll slayer pose,

(23:47):
and so he took Graham iron Jaw, which is not
a particularly good star player in my opinion. I didn't
realize that his once per game is Mighty Blow, but
only against Strength five players, so it was literally only
against the blood spawned. So I was just like, I
just got to keep the blood spawn away from grandmaron John,
It'll be fine. So somewhere in there, Grandma and John
goes to throw a one die block into my guard piece,

(24:10):
skulls falls over. I roll a nine on armor break
and I'm like, is he nine armor? Turns out he is.
He's a troll slayer. He's got nine armor, and I
was like, you gotta be kidding me. He like they
didn't even give him ten armor. Like this two hundred
K piece with four strengthened block does not even have

(24:32):
ten armor. Okay, fine, so I break armor and I
roll the casualty. Boom, it's an injury. He's out of there. Boom,
it's just gone, you know. And and I was like, well,
that was really stupid, but you know, thanks, I guess.
And then like a couple times later, he throws another
one dive block and I break armor and casualty that

(24:53):
guy out of the game. So I only got one.
I think the blood Spawn did manage to get a
casualty in there. The blood Spawn was very guilty of
rolling the two threes and fours on armor breaks during
the course of the game. I think he got a
couple of KOs in the second half because there was
like the first half was pretty much a slog. I

(25:14):
was able to stall him out because like his whole
team was based so I had just like one guy
running around in the backfield with the ball, just staying
as far away from the dwarves as he could. And
then the second half, once I had like a numerical advantage,
that's where the dwarves were kind of like running for
their lives the whole time, and so I think he

(25:37):
had like he had four people in the KO box
and I scored on like I took the ball from
him and scored somewhere in there. And he went to the
role for his four KOs and got none of them back,
and I was like, incredible, Yeah it was. It was

(25:58):
a Warden said he had fun, which I have more
power to him. I would not have a fun in
a game if I rolled like that. I I don't know.
Maybe you embrace after a couple of turns of it, Yeah,
you have to. You have to see how bad it gets.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
So yep, yep, all right, next round we got darn
Tutin and.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
Loki Rat bastards, so two one win all of a sudden.
You get scored against one time and then everyone's a signed.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
They can score.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
Against the store team, yeah, but not winning against it.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
And uh, I'm going to make a note of this
in here somewhere. Austin is performing admirably despite having a
loser record in the season. He's managing to do stuff
that other people aren't. Plus he's faced like quite a
bit of adversity in this season. Yeah, I hope he's
learned a lot with uh. I mean there's no there's

(26:53):
no teacher like punishment, so yeah, I mean I think
I think this game was the one that gave your
again the SPP to get the runner to five strength.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
So yeah, well thanks for that. I guess now it's
everyone else's problem. Yeah, it'll be good. Oh, right, up
next we have Run in Action. We had, oh the
game that we I was interested in seeing House went
dub Barbarians and Tryhards.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
Yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure I was. I was not
pleased with the way this game played out. Did he
had like a when I I barely got to see
any part of this game. When I walked by, he
had like three people in a casually box and like
three people in KO box. And that's saying something to

(27:55):
get Dark Hills, right, Like I understand if like your
goblins are getting picked on when you're Black Works, you
you're gonna expect your opponent to come blitz your goblins, right,
and you probably lose them at like, you know, a
fairly steady pace during the course of the game, especially

(28:15):
against somebody like Elves where they're able to like scalpel target,
but like the Black Works themselves getting beat up. That's
just the that's just the crime shame.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Yeah, looking at this, it's a very interesting chore play
saying where you see there's a casual on the first
turn from ID and then there's just three straight injuries.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
For I'm wondering if you got crowd surfed a bunch.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Yeah, like either serf or like one of those looks
like it might have been like a failed dodge or something. Yeah,
not really where you want to be. It's like you're
if you're in a position to like be up players.
I think especially with like Blackworks, where your team is
like fairly slow and not the best of Like, I mean,

(29:04):
you have grab to act as your positioning advantage, but like.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
You need to be able to get to people to
do that.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
And if you're losing people, you're like, all of a sudden,
like half your field's gonna be open for like a
dark Elf team to just kind of swarm around you.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
Yeah, Elves are like I doesn't have the skills to
punish elves. He doesn't have like tackle, and that's a
real problem if you're playing in dark Elves, and so
I think he probably I think he's probably just outmaneuvered.

(29:39):
I think there's lots of situations where if the ball
lands in your backfield far from the line of scrimmage,
you've got your black Works, They've got their elves in
front of the Black Orks in your backfield, and then

(30:00):
you got your goblins desperately trying to protect the ball
and you can't keep the l's corralled enough, and then
they can just go take the ball from you and
then run around in your backfield for a bunch of turns.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
So yeah, the goblins do not make the most imposing
ball defenders, so.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
They do not know they're there for stepping on people's heads.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
True.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
All right, one more Round eight game since Rennegade's a
Funk and the Metropolitan Dumpster Rats. It was a four
to zero win. I know you're talking about teams that were,
you know, making a strong surge as part season. I
think that this cast running a team would definitely qualify.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
Yeah, the whole all of the big guys are block pro,
and Barbie said that pro meant that all of the
big guys activated every single turn. So Sean was rolling
pretty hot and the big guys were like, Barbie probably

(31:06):
doesn't have enough experience on like you can a team
that has like a bunch of big guys like this,
you can try to make them commit to one side
of the field, and scaving can reverse the field on
a team like this, and you can you can really
tax those big guys movements and you can keep them

(31:27):
out of the fray. And that's your goal as a
scaven player, is making sure that those big guys are
nowhere near wherever the action is happening. And so she
probably just doesn't have enough experience with that yet, right,
because dark elves are a similar thing like she played

(31:48):
when she played dark elves last season. Dark elves can
do that pretty well too. You want to like swap
the field on your opponent multiple times if they're just
like trying to muscle you out of the way, right,
and you do that a couple of times and maybe
you get them to fail some go for it's, you know,
like you you have to basically trade your two up

(32:10):
roles for their too up go for its, so a
dodge and reposition, and you do that enough times, you
can come out ahead. But when you don't have that
experience and you have like a rat ogre with pro
just breathing down your neck and the red ogre's messing

(32:32):
up your dodges. And I mean she there were multiple
times she was like very close to having so little
players that she could concede without penalty, but she had
like just enough come in to keep that from happening.
So it's one of those where I don't know that
she like learned anything from that, because she's definitely still

(32:53):
in that like new player learning phase. And I made
a conscious decision not to watch the game even though
it was happening at my house, just because I think
I make her nervous if I watched the game, so
I wasn't gonna try to do that to her.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
So yeah, yeah, I think it was like, yeah, Shawn
Steam like he was just raind.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
Thing's funny.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
He's just like certain points in the season and it
spent like, you know, struggling to score like one or't
you And now it's just like four four.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
I think it's like a second four touchdown game this season.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yeah, it's really easy to score points if you just
annihilate your oppoints team, right, yes, so very true.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
All right, we have one game for future us, I guess,
but that was last night. Is lookie rep Pasters and
dragon Bones a tow to two draw.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
Yeah, and Shawn's lucky, I think to get a draw
in that game.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
Yeah, so that that one was very eventful from.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Yeah, oh yeah, Austin went back to the drawing board
on a couple of players on his team, and uh,
and that's this is this has been a lot of
my Like, Austin has been putting up a respectable performance
despite having a losing record. Technically, somebody like Sean is

(34:21):
like he doesn't give wins for free, and so drawing
with him probably feels pretty good. Now, I do worry
that Austin has like drawn so many games that he
is now in like the oops accidentally eliminated myself from
playoff contention because I don't actually have enough wins to
have enough points. Now, I think he can rattle off

(34:43):
a couple of wins in these last couple of games.
Maybe he'll make it in. But yeah, I mean he's
had he has had some trouble this season.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Yeah, I think this is like, I think this is
an interesting case to look at too, just because he
has all nine of his games, which is kind of
a blessing for us at least because we can talk
about his whole season at this point. Yeah, but it's
also a curse because if you look at the other
teams ahead of him.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Yeah, there's people who are ahead of him that have
played less games, and that's a bad sign.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yeah, he has played the most games out of anyone
in his division. Yeah, so, like he's currently in tenth,
he's two points behind ninth, but I just only played
seven games, So that's potentially like that could go from
a two point deficit to up to eight and then
an eighth place. Chris has eight games, he's four points ahead,

(35:38):
so he could realistically, like if we could just fast
forward to where everyone else is caught up, Like right now,
he's only like a game and a half out, but
he could be like two and a half games. Yeah,
so that's it's hard to challenge, but yeah, that is. Yeah,
I mean he's been ping up a huge effort and

(36:01):
perhaps the greatest thing is contributing to like our memorials.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
Yeah, unfortunately, thanks for giving us players to talk about Alston.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
Yeah. Yeah, any other thoughts on their recapped games before you.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Spotlight Yeah, I mean, uh, still looking like I mean,
we've got we've got two teams, like I said, for
win streaks, the Chaos Renegade Team and the Dark Elves.
They look very different. The Kass Renegade team basically looks

(36:38):
unchanged after every single game, except the big guys get
just like a little bit better, and then the Dark
Elf team. You just swap out the Dark Elves that
are playing for each match because like a number of
them get beat up. So, uh, yeah, I'm interested to
see how the next like week or so shape out,

(37:01):
because I think I think it's kind of like an
inflection point, right, I think a number of people are
gonna are gonna hit like a plan no return. So yeah,
so where that goes.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
Yeah, So, so we didn't have some players la this
week you had a special SEGM memorial.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
Yeah, so I was gonna say we actually it was
gonna be kind of sparsely populated. There was there's the
games that we played last night helped out. But actually
we had a couple of big celebrity deaths in the
past week that I felt like we were talking about.
First off was Michael Jamal Warner, and I never really
watched any of his stuff, but like he was like

(37:45):
a mainstay of American television for decades, and so I
respect that. I quite a bit.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
Yeah, it's like multi generational too, Like I think you
could point to different things that he's done and you
can say like, oh, yeah, I reckon from that.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Yeah, right, all right, Kazu show is obviously a big one,
but you know he had several other shows after that,
so Ozzy Osbourne. So I do think that War Pigs
is probably one of the most relevant songs ever written.
Like on ironically, it's you could do the Doctor Manhattan meme.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
Right.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
It is nineteen seventy America is involved in Vietnam and
I am listening to War Pigs. It is two thousand
and one, the America is getting involved in Iraq and
I am listening to War Pigs. You just keep doing
that over and over and over again, right, Like, And

(38:45):
so Ozzie had like a relatable down to earthness, right
like the fact that his first job was like in
a slaughterhouse, right, and you're just kind of like, you
know what, screw this, let's go do something else. Right.
I respect that. And there are lots of people from
his generation that I will probably never like on a

(39:06):
personal level, like Bono. I think it's worth saying that.
So if you're ever listening to this bono. Guess what,
why why don't you open up the pocket book? Maybe right, yeah,
don't don't force me to listen to your crappy songs
on my iPod. It's a recipees to the Prince of Darkness.
Then I felt like it would be fun to make

(39:27):
fun of Hulk Cocin for probably a couple of minutes straight,
because I wanted to say that. I think it's amazing
how far a lack of talent can take you. Wrestling
is like a pretty interesting industry from like an entertainment
business perspective, because it's like such an insular community, right,

(39:49):
Like you just all you gotta do is just stab
your coworkers in the back and you'll get ahead in
the industry occasionally. Right. It doesn't have to be that way,
but that's just kind of the way that it is.
And so yeah, and I think I think Ozzie and
Hulk are very interesting contrasts because like with Ozzie, a

(40:09):
lot of people are like, man, that sucks, you know,
rest in peace though, especially to the dude who's like
halfway responsible for the Satanic panic. Whereas Hulk Hogan, he
dies and a lot of people are like.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
Oh well, I think that the cast of It's always
sunning in Philadelphia, but at best when they described to
him as a man with blonde, silky hair and the
skin of a hot dog. So you know, rest how
you're resting, right?

Speaker 2 (40:42):
Yeah, I mean I think, from like an objective standpoint,
I'm not the biggest fan of wrestling. I've I've never
been shy about saying that. But and the reason I
said that, I think it's interesting from a business and
entertaining perspective is because from like a storyteller device, a

(41:03):
wrestling match is something that's like kind of primal, right,
and good wrestlers are very good at telling a story
as a match develops, right. And the thing is is
the whole Cocaine is not a good wrestler. He had
like three moves, He wasn't particularly acrobatic. He just you know,

(41:25):
like was popular for a while for some reason. I
don't know why. Like Brent the hitman Heart is so
much better at wrestling to him.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
So yeah, well I hope they were silver refording in
this podcast. Whenever something happens to Goldberg, you hear what's
gonna go on for that? But yeah, do we have
actual players?

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Yeah, Hansi the troll Slayer for Darning. Houton was fed
to a rat over and Hansei. A lot of the
players that died this week all had skills, so Hansei
was had had mighty blow, but he's dead now. There
was U Nurcock the qt of Black Ork for the Legion.

(42:10):
He was a block guard piece and that's definitely a
big loss for that team. Frost Giant Loki was the
rat Ogre for Austin. Once again another skilled player. This
Frost Giant was beaten to death by a mummy. And
I think this is a very good illustration of how
you can't just take your big guy and crash it

(42:32):
into the other big guy. The mummy has got ten
armor and regenerate. The rat ogre has nine armor, no regenerate,
no thick skull.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
And it's really easy to look at a five strength
piece and look at your five strength piece and think
I have to blitz that with this, But you never
ask yourself what happens when that doesn't work out? And
in some percentage of the time you're gonna get you
radoger killed.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
So yeah, and if it's a it's like eighty percent.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
Right, right, because I think Austin's big that Radogre apparently
had two niggling injuries, so that's like he's like twenty
five percent to die on the D sixteen roll. And
but Austin's a genetic freak and he's got like an
eighty percent chance for his players to die. So a

(43:30):
boastful Loki was like a random lineman who died. Slag
Anomaly was a zombie for the soul Peak dooms. You know,
he was stepped on by Goblin.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
I think the sad part of slag anomally is My
favorite part of looking at jack roster was he had
an anomaly and then slagonom So you're like, oh, man,
I don't know what to deal with.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
What how much worse could this get than an anomaly?

Speaker 2 (43:55):
Slag Anomaly, the zombie name generator is truly transcendent. Yes,
like we some some week we have to do a
power rankings of the tour play random name generators by position.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
Bottom is no lineman? Yeah yeah, I think it might
be illusionist.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
But yeah, Amazon players or their names are unpronounceable in
my opinion. Yeah, I don't know where it's getting those,
but it doesn't work out. We had jazz lacks. This
was a it was somehow he died. I don't know

(44:31):
how he died, but it was goblin dirty tricks that
got him. And this was a gorule for this old
peak teams. So there you go.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
All right, well we're gonna take a quick brag of that.
Thank you for listening to our wrestling. Wrestling wrestling, But yeah,
you know, that's that's the new spin off for doing
But yeah, we'll like breaking be right back with some
deep dive in. All right, we are back, and we've
got a.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
New take on a deep dive topic, a little bit
of a retrospective type thing.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
Yeah, I think it'd be fun to kind of just
talk about like how our teams have progressed throughout the season,
talk about like our strength or weaknesses, stuff where the
team's done well, stuff that the team hasn't done well,
Like whether the team is doing what you plan, what
you know, what, what have you tried to provise with
so far? Stuff like that. So I felt like, you know,

(45:24):
we're two thirds of the way through. We talked a
little bit about playoffs already, you know, but I think
part of the fun of what Bulls team management throughout
the course of the season, so I felt like it
was worth talking about that. So yeah, I mean, where
are you at with your team?

Speaker 1 (45:41):
So yeah, I guess my team feeling pretty solid about it.
I think that was just an advantage of Amazon players
being costed the way they are is in my redraft,
I was able to bring over like five fairly developed players,
like if I think if you compared the start of

(46:02):
my season with like the end of like Jennings team
from last season, like they they.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
Had a very good, like seasons worth of development.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
So I felt good about that, and I felt like
the players I was adding on just getting some line
women with that, I felt pretty comfortable just being able
to like I needed some sort of shielding for those players.
And that's how a lot of the games have played
out this season, where like my first game when I
played against Henderson, I had five players left on the pitch.

Speaker 3 (46:37):
And they were all my redrafted players.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
But against Chase, like all the players I had left
were players that I had redrafted, So they've had resilience,
and I think part of that is, like, you know,
not extending them into positions where they're in danger, which
I think is a skill that I've picked up more over,
like the last few seasons, having been able to be like, Okay,
this is a player I need to protect. I think

(47:04):
having so many bloggers on your roster is just such
a huge boost to like help that survivability, And like,
I have most of the skills I would want over
the course of over the entirety of my roster, I
have a majority of the skills that I think I
would want to have.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
So like I've got a good amount of tackle, I've
got some mighty blow, have some guard, you know.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
Surehands, I have a leader now. So like I mean,
I've got skills that I wanted going in and I've
been able to get them on most of the players.
I think as far as development stuff, I think the
issue with the team and just like the way the
games have kind of been playing is outside of like

(47:54):
one or two games, not being able to really get
the scoring that I would like to have. I think
Amazon's you know, you're looking at it roster that has
a whole bunch of dodge. You're like, oh, this is
like a more finesse oriented team.

Speaker 3 (48:11):
They're gonna be good at like putting.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
Up into scores, and I think they can do that.
It just hasn't always born out that way.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
I think it's a team that's kind of like a
how many three pluses can you roll? During the course
of the game. You get a lot of rerolls, but
if you're on the like the wrong side of the
of of those three pluses, then your team just kind
of like doesn't look as impressive as it should.

Speaker 3 (48:35):
For sure.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
Yeah, that is one hundred percent. The issue is not
being able to get the points I would like. Another
thing being, you know, having all these resilient players is nice,
but getting line women and stuff, not being able to
stay on the pitch or say upright is made harder
to progress them.

Speaker 3 (48:58):
Outside of a couple like I would like to have
some more aligned.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
Women with skills. I've had a couple that have gotten
killed or like stat downs, so those ones have gotten
like fired.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
But I think that would be probably. The thing is
like the team.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
Hasn't progressed necessarily as much since the start of the
season as I.

Speaker 3 (49:16):
Might have liked. And that's just because I do have
some skills.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
Kind of waiting in the wings for when I really
feel like I need to just like pop a skill off.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
I can do that.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
But big thing mostly is like having the having the
ability to like get scores onto some of these other players,
like some of these line women they don't have any skills,
has been a challenge.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
But also having so many.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
Skills on your players makes it harder to get extra skills.
So Jaguars this season have not really been doing that
much for me. Yeah, they haven't gotten as many casualties
as I think they should, given their like amount of
blocks they've taken and the fact they have mighty blow right,
So they're like a little underperforming, where if I felt

(50:08):
like I was getting more casualties with them, I'd feel
like I was in a better spot.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
Yeah, I always feel like the Jaguars slightly underperform and
the piranhas always overperform. That's been my experience.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
Yeah, I would say that's pretty much born out the
way that I would agree. But I mean, I've got
some projects for like the last third of the season.
I picked up my second thrower I'm working. I think
I'm gonna work that one into a sort of like
a ballhawk safety. And I will not divult my entire

(50:40):
strategy on the show for people who I sell to
play against, but I think like that one is gonna
be yeah, exactly, yes, But I think that one's gonna
be kind of like a piece where I do some
corner experimenting, play with more of the defensive skills that
I don't have, maybe like try out like get like
a wrestle, get a strip ball, having tackled, just some

(51:01):
cooler some abilities that maybe that one's going to fill
in the gaps of things.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
It's a litle bit easier to level throwers because they
you can always get completions with them, so it's always
like a little risky to do like the handoff completion
thing that the two agility teams get to do.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
Mm hmm, yeah, that's that is like the that's like
the concern. I think the first game that the thrower
was in did not really get any s VP. I
was able to get like sang an MVP, so that's
looking good. And then I do have one live woman
that I'm trying to get sneaky get.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
On, and I'm about five SVP from that, so that's
a kind of an awkward number.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
It's like a touchdown and a casualty or something in
an MVP, so it's an awkward spot. But I feel
like if I can get that going, then I'm going
to feel like I'm pretty solid. The team value is
going to be I think lean enough to where I
get the chance to take some inducements against some of
the more bulked up teams heading into the playoffs. So

(52:06):
that's kind of where I think I want to be,
Like if I can get into a position whereas I'm
able to take drible and drool against majority of the
other topic or like majority of the rest of the
playoff field, and there are not really there's a you know,
there are two potential stunty teams to play against and
everyone else. I like have my TV in a way

(52:27):
where I can get Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
Want Dribble and Drill actually good against stunty teams. Yeah,
Like they're crazy good against stunty teams because the stab
is relevant against whoever they're trying to use to carry
the ball. And if you're playing against the stunty team,
then your incentivised to use your treasury anyway because they're
gonna try to exactly measure based off of what you

(52:52):
are taking going into that game. And Dribble Drill have
a nice like one to ninety break point, so that
means you get to trade them for something that's not
quite as clean, right.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
So yeah, I mean that's that's kind of how I'm feeling.
I'll say, looking to run off a couple more wins,
I guess some stuff going and I last off, but
feeling pretty good about the team.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
Yeah. So yeah, I started kind of cold on my team. Obviously,
starting the season with three losses like stung quite a bit.
I knew I was gonna struggle early on because like
when I looked at what I redrafted compared to what
like fresh teams were getting, I had like one more skill,
but all my skills were concentrated on three people. And

(53:34):
obviously I think I drew the very the shortest possible
stick that you could draw by having to play Chase
in week one. So I'm going into that game with
no skills except for three people, and then having to
play against like more than a giant game one, and
you know, then low rolling my chances to like take

(53:57):
those big guys off the pitch with the with the
crazy teeth, and then I had so much damage against
my team that I went to the next game with
like no with six journeymen or something like that. You know.
So it's just one of those like cascading failure type
of things. I feel like I've salvaged the team and

(54:18):
a team's looking closer to what it was at the
end of last season, and I didn't optimize my team
to carry it over, right, I think if I were
doing that, I think if I were to like try
a multi season corn thing again. Last season, I was like,
you know, two I was went away from the finals
and then so I felt like I was like two

(54:39):
games away from a championship with the Quarn team. So
that's kind of like why I ran it back. And I
didn't really have like an idea of what I wanted
to play next. Anyway I do now, So whatever happens
with this quarant team at this point, I'll be retiring
it for a little while. Plus, the team looked really good.
It's really fun playing with good looking miniatures, so yeah,

(55:03):
but my team looks closer to what it did at
the end of last season, where we've got some skills
on a wide variety of players. Now there's like a
handful of like all of corn Cores have block now,
which is great, and one blood Seeker doesn't have block
and that's because I lost. I had a strength down

(55:25):
on a blood Seeker that had block. I think if
I hadn't had that happen to my team, I think
I would be in like prime position, more or less
where I want to be. I do have two blood seekers.
My block guard blood Seeker can take an extra skill,
and my one other blood Seeker who has block currently

(55:47):
can take an extra skill. And I don't know what
those are yet. It's probably mighty blow on the guard dude,
the block the just block guy. It might be guard
because what I ran into at the end of last
season was getting muscled by stupid inducements. I think if

(56:08):
I have enough guard, I can get around that playing
into some of these stunty teams. I can just have
a whole team based And you know, if there's stunty,
if the stunty teams are taking giants and moorg and
stuff like that and they're only two dicing my guys,
than the chances of them staying on their feet are
a lot higher. So it might be guard, the block, shurehands,

(56:31):
dodge beast man. I've opted to go for like a
stat up on because I feel like that'll be slightly
more powerful if I hit strength or agility, those are
obviously insane, but I think a movement is totally fine.
The movement is a huge thing. That means I have

(56:52):
to roll so many fewer go for its. Something that
I've struggled with is reroll count. You can't fire rerolls,
so your reroll you buy is just added to your
team value. And this my team is like disgusting team value.
That's that's like the downside to Quorn's part of the

(57:12):
reason why the rebuy is so strong.

Speaker 3 (57:14):
You have to.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
Struggle with because your players are so expensive. Corn Gores
or seventy K based. The blood Seekers are one ten
base right, You're you're like Chaos Chosen, but all your
dudes cost ten k more. And then you could sub
out some of those players for Marauders. But like the
Marauder player Bass, the the fifty K chassis for Marauder

(57:38):
likes to get itself into trouble, so you have to
be kind of careful. Once they get some skills on them,
they get pretty good.

Speaker 3 (58:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
Yeah, So I've debated buying a third reroll because I
don't necessarily want to add more to my team value
than I have, and it's really piling up. I mean,
the crazy Teeth. The thing that I would say about
my team is it really comes down to how much
damage the crazy Teeth does. Now, he's still currently leading

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the league and casualties, and I've been playing against some
stouter units at various points in the season. He's still
managed to average like a cash lead or so, and
he's pretty reliable on KOs. But the question you have
to ask yourself is, like, does he actually take three
hundred K points from the player during the course of

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the game. It's really funny because at the beginning of
the season, I think Chase's plan was to just keep
basing them with snotlings and if even if he kills
the snotling a turn, he won't even get to the
when he can or the three hundred K value.

Speaker 3 (59:01):
Right.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
So yeah, I mean, I'm playing battleship over here. I'm
just gonna develop an unsinkable warship and then you know
I can't possibly lose.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
Yes, so like to keep to let you keep speaking
the words. I'm not gonna stop it. Yeah, yeah, I think. Yeah,
I mean I'm kind of in a seminar a reroll boat,
like I took a leader instead of a third reroll leader.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
I mean leader for me is doubles on whoever I
take it on. So uh, one of the skill one
of the things that I've considered is like disturbing presence
one because it would force the passing teams to think
about where they throw more importantly as it screws up bombers, which,

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as we've talked about it sense of in this podcast,
are pretty prolific. And so it's one of those where
I've put some major thought into. Okay, what does it
look like to put like four disturbing presents on this team?
It's like a dead skill except against the bombers, in

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which case I don't even have to be basing the
bomber to really mess up the bombers plan.

Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
You don't even have to be standing.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
Yeah, I don't even have to be standing.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
Well, if you want to turn presidents, do I have
a team for you? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
Yeah, it's fine because you don't have to worry about
winning a game.

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
But you're right, right, it's fine. Yeah, Okay, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
There you go. That's a kind of a deep dive
into our teams, kind of some little queeze about our
about our teams where they're at.

Speaker 3 (01:00:45):
So, oh right, we got we got a week to
talk about Week nine coming up, So we got some picks.
What are your what are your picks for?

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
I'm gonna go we'll do the the Johnny Carson bit,
uh where we say I say the thing and you
it's exactly the thing that you were thinking, because I'm
sure one of those was those who wonder versus Renegades
A funk.

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
That one's up there. I think that's like, as a
that would be a good game.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
I think so that that one's one that yeah, a
lot of I think there's a lot of similarity and
approaches to the game to see, you like, they're both
put a lot of time into it, and then that's
going to bear out into a good game.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
I hope it's a good game for both their sakes.
I the note I put there was like an early
contender versus rising star, Right, I think predictably is a
team that has like a whole bunch of skills to
start the season hasn't changed that much by this point
in the season. Right, it looks very largely similar because

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I think he even fired an Ogre at this point,
so he's like hired back an Ogre. Right, So he's
like back trying to start over to to he's starting
ogre if you will, whereas the Shawn's team started really
slow and has really accelerated in these last couple of games.

Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
I think that that is one definitely that has popped
up to me. I think as far as like games
are gonna be fun to talk about.

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
Next week, that one's up there. Are you gonna try again?

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
Yeah? The second guest was darn Tute versus the tryhards.

Speaker 3 (01:02:36):
I think that it'll be interesting. Okay, that's not that's
not on my list.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
Oh okay, okay, okay, Well your list was like Barbie
Frett or something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
That's gonna be I want to see. What I would
like to see is a just a box score next
week where we're talking and it's like twelve to ten
because they have just been trading all one turn touchdowns
every turn and that is just what is happening.

Speaker 3 (01:03:06):
I could like that. It would be great.

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
It would be really funny.

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
Please break some sort of scoring record in this game.

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
Rooting for both of you equally, I'll have fun, I
know you will.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
Yeh.

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
So, So actually, for a serious game that I'm looking at,
I'm looking at title terrors and du barbarians.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Yeah, because that's like a that's the that's the last
crap out of the bucket there, right that. I think
that's one where they're they're your only way, your only
way into the playoffs is over someone else.

Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
I think that one to me is like, you know,
I brought over a couple of players, so we'll see
like the strategy how it plays out where it's like
I brought over one.

Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
Really control and then a hilarious goblin.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
Trolls in the mix for most beasts to the end
of the Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
The thing is very very good.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
It's a star so you don't get to star status
on a big guy without a trail of bodies behind you.

Speaker 3 (01:04:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
And yeah, I mean obviously it could be a little bit.
You know, it's the Croc score. He's got block he's
got guard, you can do some stuff. A lot of
the sources are looking pretty developed. I think that'll be
the thing. As you see clay strategy was like bringing
over some of his blockers and using them. If he's

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just like a blocker versus blocker Clae, sources are gonna
have an advantage over its black orcs like outsklling them
substantially and they're gonna be faster, and that's I think
it's gonna be.

Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
Well, we'll see how it plays out.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
We'll have exactly fifty and going into that game.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
I wonder what he'll take. This is why I mean,
I think it should just be an option. There should
be a little anti bomber button whereas like you can
pay a hundred thousand to just like, no matter what
your team is, you can pay one hundred thousand to
prevent your person the other team from taking Bomber.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
As a coop. Took a wizard in the playoffs the
last season to frog Bomber on the kickoff, and like,
trust me, I get it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:27):
Yeah, yeah, I think.

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
I don't know, they can make it flavorful, like there
could be like some sort of like some sort of
Eagles star player. They can swoop down and pick up
a gut one and pull it off the pitch or something. Yeah, something,
give us a way to kill a bomber please?

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
Yeah? Yeah? Any other what other games are sticking out
to you?

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
I know we usually shy away from our own games,
but I feel like your game versus John Jennings is
a big one. Yes, that's like that's the top of
the brackets over there. Duke in it out to see
who who gets who gets the pull ahead basically.

Speaker 3 (01:06:02):
Yeah, that is ah, I'm luckily getting right north of
two hundred.

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
Indument Yeah interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
Yeah, four bombers, Yes exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
It is my my righteous and noble.

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
Versus their uncivilized, brutest bomber. Yeah, that's exactly that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
Uh, my skilled fouling with sneaky git and dirty player
and a bonus versus their disgusting sneaky git only.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
Okay, yeah, yeah, that's gotta go. Yeah, I mean, I
think our game is going to be interesting. So I'm
like a little bit in the catchup phase, So I'm
playing like slightly out of sequence for this one, but
it's going to be it will be interesting to see
how it plays out. Like this is out of the
my remaining schedule. I think I'm like fifty fifty on

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games of people above me or like right around me
in the bracket and people who are like kind of
closer to the bottom.

Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
So I'm hoping.

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
I mean, if I come out of the season with
like a fifty, if I win like half those games,
I'll be happy.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
Yeah. When when do you think our game is. Do
you think it's more dramatically appropriate for it to be
in the final week.

Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
I mean, it's of the season.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
We can make a dramatic no matter when happens, so
I'm not worried about that. But yeah, I mean this
is going to be like this one does have some
implications for just standings in the league.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
So yeah, and that's it's too early to say exactly
when you would want, like if you were trying to
dodge a specific player, right, I don't know where you
would want to be in the standings. I think you
want to be towards the top of the standings, right,
But like, I mean Will's team is currently in seventh, Yeah, right,

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And I wouldn't necessarily want to play against that as corn,
you know, I'd much rather play against like Jim and Jim.
I mean Jim is in sixth. They were in that division, right,
So there's some there's some really stout competition, so yeah,

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I mean, uh, it's it's hard to say, it's hard
to say.

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
Yeah, this to me is the most interesting the standards
have looked of of.

Speaker 3 (01:08:31):
Course, of the season quite a while. Quite quite plays out. Yeah, Uh,
did you want to share which who are you playing
this week?

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
I'm playing Jack. I'll I'll get a chance to play
against them. I don't know when that's gonna happen. I'm
headed to gen Con, but I'll be back in time
for next week's podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
But I.

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
Uh probably won't get the game in which Jack, considering
I have tonight only to get that game in, and
it appears that you have to schedule your game two
weeks out with Jack just about yeah, to to get
it to work. But will be you know, I'll be
back next week and I'll probably chat with him discord. Then.

Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
Currently quite a bit of money be given him that game. Obviously,
the mummy is a question mark.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
Yeah, yeah he can.

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
He doesn't have to hire another mummy. But even then
he's still getting over four hundred thousand.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
So I'll be planning against Luther then, I guess which
is fine. I mean Luther at the really expensive players,
Luther is not that bad. You can you can deal
with Luther. He's a really good piece, but he's not
I don't think he's like oppressive. He doesn't have mighty blow.
It doesn't even have dodge like five strength. Yeah, that's
quite a bit. Sure, he's a halfway decent ballcarrier, but

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he's not like crazy Mobile. He does like hypnotic Gays
does make playing around it like a little tough. But yeah,
I don't know. I just I'll I've played one game
this season where I have not played against a star player,
and at this point it's probably just going to be
that game. Yeah, yea, so maybe if I still haven't

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played Jennings, it's entirely possible that when I played Jennings,
he won't have a star player because his team is
his team is up there.

Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
Now I gotta watch out for Price the slide. I
think that is pretty much going to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:30):
Yeah, I'll wrap it up this week.

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