February 27, 2025 • 36 mins
Summary
In this conversation, Leyla Milano shares her tumultuous relationship with a man who exhibited controlling and manipulative behaviors, often invoking spiritual and sexual dynamics to maintain power. She recounts her experiences of feeling trapped, the signs of witchcraft, and the eventual health crisis that led to her awakening. Through her journey, she emphasizes the importance of recognizing red flags, the impact of spiritual connections, and the lessons learned about self-empowerment and healing.
Takeaways
The relationship began with a seemingly innocent connection.
Signs of control emerged early on, including manipulation and threats.
Sexual dynamics were intertwined with energy exchange and control.
A health crisis prompted a spiritual awakening and realization of manipulation.
Leyla experienced a turning point during a prayer session with his family.
She learned to reclaim her power and recognize spiritual justice.
The relationship taught her valuable lessons about strength and self-worth.
Recognizing red flags is crucial in relationships.
Spiritual connections can have profound effects on mental and physical health.
Healing is a journey that requires self-awareness and empowerment.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
01:26 Meeting the Warlock
03:35 The Nature of Their Relationship
06:10 Rituals and Control
08:17 Signs of Manipulation
10:23 Health Crisis and Realizations
12:34 Spiritual Awakening and Prayer
22:20 Confronting Pain and Suffering
23:12 Spiritual Awakening and Isolation
23:59 Backfiring Consequences
24:39 Dreams and Spiritual Protection
24:39 The Complexity of Physical Relationships
25:17 Learning Strength and Independence
25:44 Revelations and Spiritual Insights
26:40 Dreams as a Window to Truth
28:51 Karma and Spiritual Justice
30:55 Advice for Women in Toxic Relationships
32:50 Taking Back Control
33:54 Cleansing from Past Relationships
35:21 The Power of Storytelling
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Transcript
Episode Transcript
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What's happening with you?
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This is the Roi c Gilmore podcast,
where we all don't get no real and it don't come with a filter.
I am your host Roi c Gilmore.
There I have a very special guest,
and this guest will be sharing her experience
with a warlock,
binding spells and witchcraft on her.
Y'all tune in.
Intro
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What is your name?
Where are you from?
My name is Layla Milano.
I'm from Ohio.
Okay, cool.
So, in your experience or from your point of view, what is your experience with the
Oolok?
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How did you meet Oolok?
I met him through one of my best friends.
I had came back home for a wedding and my best friend, she was dating his best friend.
So we ended up at a cookout the next day after the wedding celebration.
And he didn't like me, he didn't want to come out with me.
And he didn't speak to me the whole ride to the cookout because his friend made him
come.
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So he basically wanted me to stay away from him.
I got to the cookout, I was playing games with the family, he told his friend, like he
was watching me the whole time, he told his friend, okay, I want to talk to this girl.
She seems different.
So his friend came up to me, he said, she's a serious, he's a serious person, don't play
with him.
And I said, okay, I gave him my number, we talked, he ended up leaving town or the country.
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And a few weeks after that, he was like, hey, I want you to come to see me.
So he said we was going to talk when he got back to America, but we didn't end up talking,
right?
So I was just living my life.
But no, he said he wanted something serious.
So I said, okay, I'll come see you.
I spent a few weeks over there, about two, three weeks.
And when I got back home.
And you were aware.
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In Nigeria.
Okay.
And he went over to his place.
Yes.
Okay.
Y'all were serious, serious.
Well, that's the thing.
Like I didn't think we were serious, serious until he invited me over there.
And then he was like, I want to be serious.
So I said, okay.
So after that three weeks that I spent there, when I came back, he ended up coming back
here.
And that's when he started to say like, I'm your spiritual husband.
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And I was like, yeah, I'm your spiritual wife.
So I just went along with the whole Okie Doke and he just started, that's when he started
to talk crazy to me.
See what you do, this will happen to you type stuff.
And I was like, okay.
Like I ain't going to nothing.
Explain a little bit deeper on that.
Like what kind of things did he do?
What kind of things did he say?
So basically, if I decided to talk to somebody else, like another man or something like that,
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he would say like, I'll know what you're doing.
I'll see what you're doing.
And then something will happen to you if you betray me basically.
So on that note, I was like, I was kind of weirded out by the way he said it, but I didn't
think much of it because we had just gotten into the beginning of our relationship.
So we're all together at this point or just unofficial?
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We all just fucking here's told me he had somebody right?
Okay, a baby mama.
Okay.
Was he with her or he told me that he was with her for their son.
Okay.
His son has autism, so he has to go back and forth and help her, which I understood that.
But he told me he's like never cross her and I never did.
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But most of the time he was with her.
So he was in between Germany and Nigeria.
Okay.
For the entire relationship.
I probably saw him maybe three times out of two and a half years.
Yeah, that's crazy.
So it was official, but not.
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You know, I was loyal to him, but there was one time I had done something and he called
me like the moment I got done doing the do.
And this was maybe like a month into our relationship.
He wouldn't ever answer my calls.
I would try to tell him like, hey, I'm about to go do this or go do that because he would
tell me that I needed his permission to travel, to do anything, but he wouldn't answer the
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phone.
But the moment I get to where I'm going, he would call me.
The moment I parked my car or the moment I like stopped doing whatever I was doing.
He would tell me you're doing some bullshit.
So I know that with African men or just typically African men, they can be really different.
Fucking controlling and they believe in polygamy for them.
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Yeah.
They don't believe in commit to one woman man.
So that's what he sounds like he was on.
When you was over in Nigeria, did you take part in, did you normally take part in any
rituals or anything like that?
Not that I'm aware of.
The only thing that I'd noticed was kind of odd is that when I was leaving, he would
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take like when I watched in your second part, right?
My bedsheets, he was like, I don't want your scent on the bedsheets.
So he was like, he would ball them all up and then he would go give them to somebody
to wash.
What the fuck?
When I left, right?
What the fuck?
And then he would smell my neck and he would tell me when my period was coming.
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So let me ask.
And then it would come.
Shoot this.
Did the first time y'all had sex, did he say anything out of pocket?
Did he write anything on you?
Was it was there anything odd about the sex that y'all had?
He would say things like, I'm getting ready to leave.
Like you need to, I don't know how to explain it.
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You can be blunt with me because I'm damn sure gonna be blunt with you.
Like you ain't gotta keep your class until that shit hot is.
He would say things like, you need to fuck me like you hate me.
Like I'm about to leave, right?
You ain't about to see me for a while.
Yeah, he would do weird things.
When we had sex, I would say him trying to make me feel insecure about another woman
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having him in that way to where I would want to do it more.
But then he would block me from it.
Like he wouldn't have sex with me.
He would say I'm a holy man, right?
So he would literally not sleep with me.
He wouldn't have sex with me.
But when he did, it was like he was trying to put something on me.
And he would come to me when he needed my energy.
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So I know that from a, because after I went through it, I studied all that shit.
Studied different books.
I read the book of Adam and Eve, the book of Enoch, the Bible.
I studied some of coat things just to get a deeper understanding on what it was that
the woman put on me and what it was that I went through.
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And I know that when he would go days without fucking you, that was him fasting.
I know during Egyptian sex magic, they would fast for, I think it was three days that I
read, three days or multiple days.
They wouldn't be around anybody.
So they would essentially make their energy pure.
That's what he said.
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Yeah.
So I mean, with him being from Africa and he probably know Egyptian sex magic, that's
probably what it was.
So you would fast, you would fast, he would fast.
Y'all wouldn't deal with nobody.
Y'all probably wouldn't talk or anything.
And then y'all would come together and have sex and he would set his intention upon you
or set the intention on whatever it is that he wanted that may have been controlling you,
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that may have been using your energy.
Who fucking knows?
Did you ever ask him, was he putting anything on you?
No, I never asked him, but I could feel it because he gave subtle hints to me that he
was.
And he would say certain things like either before or after we get done, but I never asked
him about it.
I just kind of went along with whatever.
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But I ended up like really just being my mental, even though he wasn't around, I was
stuck to him.
Like I couldn't do nothing.
So I knew it was something.
What kind of things would he say to you before and after that let you know that he was on
bullshit?
He would say, don't have sex with women.
Like I always use a condom.
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I always, I do call it protect myself and I just want to protect you.
That's what he would just kind of try to reassure me.
But then he would say, I'm going to get you pregnant.
You're going to have five babies and you're going to stay in the house.
But he never had sex with me without a condom.
But he always said he's going to get me pregnant.
So what kind of was the deal breaker that let you know for sure that he was a warlock
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and he was doing witchcraft for you?
Yeah, there was the second time I went to see him in Nigeria.
He always makes sure somebody makes my food, right?
Which is okay.
But like, sometimes I make my own food, but he would ask certain people to prepare my
food and one night I was the only person in the house to get sick.
He watched me.
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He said, come and eat.
And I said, okay, he knows that I don't eat a lot.
Now we were supposed to go out that night and after I got done eating, I was like, and
I ate a lot.
If you go to like an Applebee's and you get like a soup bowl, that would fill me up.
So I ate a lot that night and I was like, I never eat this much.
I ended up wanting to go lay down.
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So I ended up going to lay down and about, I would say an hour or two later, I woke up
and I felt like I had to throw up and shit and pass out at the same time.
And I couldn't figure out what was going on.
Now he has cameras all around the house.
So as this was happening, there was his sister in the room.
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So all the commotion is happening, right?
As I'm like, I threw up my whole insides all over the place.
And when he found out, which he already knew because all the commotion, he didn't even
come check on me and he was like, did you drink too much?
Never has this man in his life seen me get drunk or even belligerent to the point where
I would throw up.
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So for him to ask me that and not even ask if I was okay, he was just waiting to see
if something would happen.
And then the second time he was like, him and somebody else went out.
They came back with some food and it was a cheeseburger and some french fries.
He was like, I don't know, you're American.
You like American food or whatever.
You probably tired of eating African food.
Mind you, I eat African food all the time.
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So it doesn't bother my stomach.
He made sure like I ate this burger.
He kept asking, did you eat it?
Did you eat all of it?
I warmed it up.
I cut it in half and I started to eat it.
Then I heard a voice in my head and said, throw it up, throw whatever you just ate
up and I threw it up and I hid the rest of the burger and stuffed it in the back of the
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fridge because he said he wanted half of it.
I gave him the other half, but he never ate it.
But he kept asking if I ate it and the kept check it kept check.
Are you sure you ate all your food?
I said, yeah, I ate it, but I actually threw it up in the bathroom.
So what do you think that he did to it?
I mean, because I've, what?
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The only reason I say that, I don't know what he did to it, but before he brought it home
to me, I had a dream about him.
I took a nap and I had a dream about him and the person he went out with when they came
back, they had food.
So I was like, mm-mm, something right?
What would you see in the dream?
Go ahead.
What would you see in the dream?
I saw him and the other guy, they were sitting at a round table.
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There was a group of people, but the main thing was like, there was a huge bed in the
house that I was in.
And when they got back, they came into the room that I was sleeping in and one of them
was in a wheelchair and one of them was standing up, but they were both talking, but they were
talking to me and they were laughing and cackling.
So it was kind of like a vision, but when they got, when they got back, both of them
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came into the room and I was still laying in the bed and they both was like, we got
you food, but like I said, one of the men was in a wheelchair, not my ex at the time.
And I told them, I said, I saw y'all.
I don't know what y'all be doing, but I saw the both of you and now you in my room, just
like in my dream.
I know when it's, that sounds like a bonding spell with the whole food thing because I
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interviewed a man where the lady made him some spaghetti.
I'm not sure he familiar with that saying, are you?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
I was a young girl when I was younger, making a cheese cake, strawberry cheesecake, fucking
white girl.
Why don't fucking white girl?
Nah.
Yeah, I'm saying she, she had a blood in it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Binding spells, man.
So from him, for him being a man, the only thing I can think of is honestly him jacking
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off on the burger, maybe in the ingredients, spitting in it, putting his hair in it.
You can use any type of body fluids, semen, spit, hair.
You can use shit, piss, anything to bind that person or blood, anything to bind that
person to you.
I believe you because that trip was the one where he said, we need to reestablish trust.
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And that's when I told him, I said, I don't want to sleep with you.
I don't want you to touch me.
I'm going to make my own food.
That is where I think he brought the food for me to bind me again to him because that
was after I cut off all contact.
So he didn't know what else to do at that point because we weren't having sex.
I had been celibate for a year since he had left.
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Damn.
So he was, yeah, he was losing and he would always tell me, I can feel you.
Your energy is low.
Like he would call me when I was pulling my energy back and talk to me, actually talk
to me.
That's how they do, man.
That's how old girl did me.
The more you listen to my story, the more you'll learn.
Guess how deep the shit go and the more you'll wonder how the fuck I'm still alive.
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With him, honestly, I don't, I typically don't, don't do Caribbean women or Hispanic women.
The girl that put the shit on me was a Dominican, Dominican, black and white.
She was pretty.
She was sweet.
Yeah.
You know, behind the compliments and all the sweet stuff she was doing, she's putting
shit on me.
Yeah.
You know, so it's like, I don't give a fuck that you're sweet and that you're pretty if
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you own this type of time when I'm not looking at you.
Then, I don't want you.
And then the end, my free will is what saved me.
Me not wanting to be there.
Me not wanting to be there.
I had my mama then praying and it was a lot, man.
And you know, you'll, you'll learn that, but what, what kept you coming back to this
man?
Was he paying for your trips to Africa?
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No.
In fact, I paid for my, okay, it paid for the first one.
I paid for the second one.
He paid for the third one, but I still spent my own money.
Were the trips expensive?
I don't really, like when I was there, I didn't really have to pay for much.
But if I wanted to do something on my own, because even when I was there, he like, he
paid no attention to me, he was out doing whatever.
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So I was, I mostly by myself, he will put people with me and go be wherever.
So I guess what kept me coming back was, this is so corny embarrassing.
I wanted a family dynamic and their family is very close, right?
To each other.
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I love that.
I mean, I have 10 brothers, right?
And I don't see all of them.
I'm close to maybe two of them, but I just love the family dynamic.
And I was like, wow, I would love to be a part of this.
And the family treats me like family.
So I was like, okay, I got to deal with his little shitty attitude sometimes.
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But no, I gained a family.
That's why I kept coming back.
But I told them that I'm not about to put up with him.
I'm not going to turn my back on y'all.
But I'm not, that don't mean like I got to be with him, right?
So, yeah.
Go ahead, I'm sorry.
No, I mean, yeah.
So he knew the whole situation.
He knew long before I even came back the third time that I wasn't fooling with him.
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But he wanted to keep me in that loop with him.
So, did he ever have sex with you in your period?
He wouldn't.
Okay, one time it came on.
This is one thing he said to me.
He said, there was a girl that I had sex with.
She started bleeding.
He said, and I threw up and I broke up with her.
So he told me, he's like, whenever I smell your neck and I smell your period coming on,
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I won't touch you.
And he never did.
Like when I was bleeding, he didn't.
He would wait a couple of days, make sure it was done.
One day I did bleed a little bit, but he wore a condom.
So like when he saw it, I was like, well, he about to break up with me.
But he didn't.
He didn't.
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He was like, well, I love you too much to break up with you.
Okay.
Did he ever mention the moon, do any type of moon magic with you?
Did he ever want to fuck under a full moon when it was a full moon?
Or did he ever spit in your mouth?
He didn't spit.
Well, maybe I wouldn't call it spitting, but he did a little lot in my mouth with his
tongue.
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Okay.
Did he ever nut in your mouth?
Yeah.
So I know, I know you funny.
He would say, drink it.
Drink it.
So you swallowed it?
Yep.
Okay.
They either want to nut in you or they want to swallow their shit.
So if you're not nutting in you, then the first thing came to mind was he obviously having
her swallow his shit.
So he never.
Ain't no friend in my game.
Hey man, listen, listen, we're grown, ain't I?
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So he never spit in your mother.
But whenever you was giving him that, was it like he wanted you to swallow it all the
time thing or it was just a some time type shit?
I noticed he would say it every time.
He would just say drink it every time.
But I'm not a big head giver, so but anytime that I would, like when he was ready to finish,
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he would say, yeah, drink it, drink it.
And I will be like, sometimes, sometimes I tried, you know, but yeah, just drink it.
You funny, man.
You probably never heard it said that way.
Man, listen, I know that a lot of things go on in the bedroom, but warlocks do typical
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things man.
Having sex with you in your period, whether they constantly nothing in you, want you to
swallow they nut, spitting in your mouth, trying to bind you, whatever the case is,
man, it's some form of fucking control.
Control.
I told him, I said, hey, look, I said, don't come and visit me spiritually.
I'm cutting the cord.
He was like, I didn't give you permission.
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It takes two people to do that, and that's it.
I said, God cut you off, my nigga.
Sorry, forgive me.
No, you're good.
You're good.
What was the climax of this situation?
Were like, like the peak of you and him and its craziness.
I would say when I ended up in the hospital, excuse me, I had a birth.
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I was sleeping one night and I felt a huge wave of heat over my whole body.
Thankfully, my mom was there that night.
So I woke up and I was like, oh God, I don't feel right.
And I was just like walking around.
I woke my mom up.
I'm like, mom, I think I might need to go to the hospital.
And like immediately all of this, like my whole arm, my whole leg, everything was numb.
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And I was like, can you drive me to the hospital?
So we get there, it starts to get worse.
And my blood pressure was through the roof.
The doctors, they wouldn't give me any kind of medicine.
My whole body was on fire.
And I tell you, I felt like I was burning in hell.
I was shaking.
I couldn't even hold a cup to pee.
And they was looking at me crazy.
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So they put me in the stroke unit and they observed me for a few days.
I had to go to physical therapy, very hard to walk.
I called him and he didn't say nothing.
He just looked at me and then I showed him that my mom was there with me.
He was like, you, you all right, you'll be okay.
And so a few days go past, I'm still in a hospital.
These people cannot figure out what was wrong with me.
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They told me I needed to go to see a psychiatrist.
They called, they, okay.
So when I went to go see the, the neurologist.
The neurologist, yeah.
Yeah.
So when they came in, I had to do a series of tests.
These people was like, I don't know.
It might go away in a few years.
You might get your strength back.
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And I told him, and he was just like, I don't even know how you're still alive.
And I was like, okay.
So what was the diagnosis?
Was it like a stroke or?
They, at first they called it a mini stroke, but I have to, I would have to go back and
look at my records to see what they actually tried to diagnose me as.
But basically the diagnosis was that they have no cure for it and they don't know what
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it is.
Okay.
That's typical fucking silent fucking VA, that damn useless.
Mm-hmm.
But, go ahead.
They called it an emotional.
They were like, do you suffer with anxiety, that kind of thing.
I'm like, fine.
I don't take medication.
I don't even like to take regular medicine.
So when I told him that and he said that to me, I simply was like, this man don't care
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about me at all.
He just basically asked me, why am I still alive?
Yeah.
And that put the cherry on top for me.
One of his cousins called me and he was like, you're a chosen one.
And then he called me after that and he said, you're more dangerous than me.
And I was like, dangerous how, but he didn't say nothing.
I was like, okay, I see what these people really on.
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They was trying me.
They saw what they was doing wasn't working.
And the last straw was that God told me to pray for them, right?
So I gathered his family in a circle and I made everybody hold hands and I said, everybody
say a silent prayer like in your head, but we're going to listen to this specific song
that God put on my heart.
And so while we were praying, I said God sent a shockwave through every single person who
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was holding hands right now and released this family from whatever is holding them back,
whatever devil demon entity, whatever is attached to them.
So I made everybody close their eyes too.
By the end of it, and this was like a 10 minute prayer, right?
By the end of it, like the cousin who had came and told me that I was a chosen one, he said,
he opened his eyes.
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He said, I wasn't feeling it all the way.
He said, but the atmosphere changed when you started praying.
And he said, I looked over at my ex then he said he had broke down.
Like he was like, and I kind of opened my eyes like towards the end of the prayer.
And he was like this and like hanging through the side.
Like his friend had to hold him up.
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And like, he said, I've never seen him cry like that before.
And he, I guess like a few weeks after that, he had told him that he something was happening
to him during that prayer.
Like something was coming out of him.
I don't know, but they had these manifesting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like so he said, I've never seen him break down like that.
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But after that, I was like, yeah, I can't, I can't be around you.
I cannot have you around me.
You, I said, everything that was attached to you was affecting me.
And I said, you will pay me for pain and suffering because you know what you did to me.
And he said, I will.
So what did, what did this or did teach you?
Like how was your, did you, because I know a lot of times when that happened and God
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allows those things to happen to people to essentially make them more conscious, more
aware and then people typically have spiritual awakenings after shit like that happened to
them.
So was that the case for you or was it something different?
Oh, that was the case for me.
I did, I did isolate myself for a little bit.
Like I went through my little delulu phase of thinking everybody might, you know, be
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out to get me.
But I have not succumbed to that kind of mindset.
Good.
I really just think, because he also said to me, he's like, you sure you want to do
this?
He said, it can drive people crazy.
I was like, you don't know how strong I am.
And now you the one looking crazy.
You talking about I can't sleep, can't eat.
I'm over here fine, motherfucker.
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See what you did backfire.
Bet you won't do it again.
You funny, man.
Losing money.
Talk about I'm the witch.
Look at you.
You funny, man.
You're gonna be witch yourself.
Huh?
I understand that though, man.
That's that's how it was when that girl put the shit on me.
Her father died.
The best friends cut off.
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Her money was fucked up.
She lost her job.
Like it was her shit started to crumble.
And you know, I was glad to know that there was some type of spiritual justice for what
she did to me.
I'll never go back to something I prayed my way out of.
Hell yeah.
Hell fuck yeah, man.
And I was the sex between you and him because I know a lot of women, they stay with warlocks
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because of the sex.
I'm not gonna lie.
The sex was bomb.
It was the bomb.com.
But was it was a different from any sex you've had with other men?
It wasn't just good sex.
Was it supernatural sex?
It was a good sex.
It was supernatural for him.
Because he looked like he got oompa loompa pop belly.
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Like, I don't know how we got into them positions to be honest.
I just really know that I'm thinking about it.
Okay.
Yeah, it was good.
Was it something that you found yourself missing when you got out of the situation with him
or was you just fuck all that, fuck the sex, fuck him?
I didn't think about it.
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I did miss it.
But at the time, he had taught me how to be alone and celibate for so long that I was
able to live without it with ease.
Easier than like seeing him on a daily basis.
So if I see you once a year for a week or two, you're teaching me how to live without
you.
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And one thing he did say was I'm going to teach you how to be strong and he did that.
So I don't think he meant to meant for them words to backfire on him, but they did.
They did.
Yes.
Spiritual justice.
You taught me how to be too strong.
But yeah.
So what happened to the guy that you dealt with in the beginning?
I know you said that when he was away, you had, you know, you did something with another
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dude, what happened to him, which I was still talking to the old boy, put something on him
or what?
I never heard from him again after that.
And you know what?
As a fact, I'm gonna piggyback off of that because anytime that I would pull the way
and just be like, you know, go about your business.
And I wasn't doing nothing.
I wouldn't fucking nobody.
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But if anybody tried to talk to me in that manner, like a man, they would just fuck this
beer never to be heard from again.
So did you ever ask God because I always asked this question.
Did you ever ask God to reveal to you what this man was doing to you?
I did.
What did he show you?
What did he say to you?
He, I can't say it like he showed me, showed me everything, but he started to show me things
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like his baby mama, their son.
And he showed me him and his family, but they were all like kind of tragic situations that
he were dealing with.
And he started to show me there was a girl that he was dealing with here in Ohio that
I didn't know he had a whole place with.
Damn.
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So, and she was helping run the company here that I was supposed to be running.
So he showed me that and then he showed me that he could possibly have a child on the
way.
And when I told him about this dream, he was like, well, I'm glad you told me because
this woman just said she wanted to, you know, but she's been talking about kids.
And I told him in the dream, I saw him like he was in regret and sorrow, but I was the
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one holding and helping him take care of the child in the dream.
And he didn't want nothing to do with it.
And it was like a court setting.
And maybe I don't know if she would have put him on child support or something.
But he just started to reveal a lot of things that were going on in his life.
And then he would start to tell me about them, but I wouldn't tell him my dreams.
He would just confirm them.
Right.
Okay.
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And so I told him, I had to tell you a couple of little small details because he would
tell me like, oh, I don't take anything seriously.
When I told him my dreams, that's why I stopped telling him.
I seen him, he had came into the room with me, like his spirit, so you would call it.
Like he said that shadow person shadow person you saw, I saw him when I got with somebody
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else.
It was standing in the corner of that man's room.
And I was like, I was like, yeah, he said, he said, no.
Okay.
Anyways, besides the point, I told him, I was like, it was your family gathering.
You were trying to talk to me.
You sat on the bed and you started crying, but you couldn't get the words out to tell
me what was wrong with you.
And then after that, it was his baby mama.
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She tried to, it was his celebration in the house of birthday.
And on that birthday, she blew the candle out.
She facetime him.
She went into the mother's basement and she drowned herself in the tub.
And then the baby would come back and forth.
Him and the mother would come back and forth.
The day I was quiet, he was like, what's wrong, what's wrong, what's going on?
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And all I heard was getting the water, getting the water.
And I told him, it's like, when I went to look it up, the lyrics, it was like a life
for a life.
And he said, my best friend's son, like my best friend's son died this morning.
Like the wife was pregnant.
He was like, if you would have said something to me, we could have prayed over it.
I'm like, I wasn't instructed to say nothing to you, but it's not my fault.
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Right.
Sometimes it's karma.
Everything that God revealed to you ain't meant for you to shout with them all.
And it's like, that sounds like a destiny swap.
I'm saying like, you ever seen the movie, the skeleton key?
No, I don't like scare me least.
Skeleton key is about, it's about a witchcraft.
It's about a destiny swap.
That's like, fucking terrifying movie.
I ain't gonna lie to you.
I ain't gonna watch it.
I ain't gonna love you.
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When you've had your own experience with witchcraft, it hit different when you watch movies about
witchcraft.
It do.
It does.
I've watched some.
These people, you really have to have discernment because you never know when the motherfucker
is out to get you.
You think that this man is just your saving grace, or this woman is your saving grace.
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And they're approaching you when they've been watching you for a while.
They are on assignment and they are.
It's like a predator-prey relationship.
I started to question everybody around them, but there was one person that he would always
stick with me.
I'm not calling my big brother, but one day, God had put in my heart to tell him to read
the scripture, and I gotta go back to the scripture because I don't remember it.
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But I just woke up and I was like, I text him.
I said, Marish, read this when you wake up every day.
I said, because you were put in something that doesn't have anything to do with you.
And so when he read it, he said, whoa.
He said, I used to read the scripture walking to school every single day as a child.
He said, how did you know to send it to me?
I said, I don't know.
It's just what I heard.
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And he's the only one who's protecting me from these people the entire time.
He's never.
Yeah.
Like that.
That's how my mama was.
My mama was my rock man.
I miss that lady.
But if you had to give advice to young ladies about dealing with men or warlocks, what would
you say?
I would say, because it's hard to give advice because the veil is over their eyes.
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So a lot of people who are not spiritually aware are not going to really see the signs.
You could be dealing with a narcissist, but if you're not willing to pay attention, I
would say just it's hard to tell another woman not to feel some type of way about loving
a man.
Right.
But trust me, I know.
They get in my fucking inbox, pay me for advice, I give it to them, and they fucking
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argue with me.
You done paid me damn money for advice.
I give you advice, and you telling me, but he loves me, but I love him.
I don't want to leave him.
Okay, we'll fucking stay there.
I'm always saying it's hard because I had a friend who I recently cut off as of the
new year.
I had a dream about her man who was cheating, and the dream ended in us not being friends.
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So I told her, I said, Hey, I saw you in the hotel room with another girl.
And as we walk it out, like me, it was me, you and three other girls, but y'all went
one way and I went another way and we wasn't friends.
So that night she says my cousin just found him on a dating site and he didn't know she
was my cousin.
So they ended up breaking up.
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She was at my house crying.
She was like, your dream confirmed him, my cousin confirmed it.
Then she came back to me after she went back to him and was like, I don't want to hear
about your dreams.
I'll use my own discernment.
Crazy work.
Crazy work.
I just put a post on TikTok that said, I'm not doing any more interviews with women about
experience with warlock.
I don't know if you saw it or not.
I did.
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I put it up for that very fucking reason.
Women don't listen.
I just say, you know, it may not be easy to see the red flags at first, but if you're
like, if you're a woman picking up on it in 2025, like ain't nothing a secret no more.
It's all in our face.
You can't be that blind.
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The blind is leading the blind, I guess, but as a woman who went through that and healed
from it, it is the most, I don't know, you know the word jubilee?
Yeah.
That's it's fucking jubilee over here.
Yeah.
Like, and I was scared of him for a long time.
He had people coming by my house and it was just.
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Controlling.
It's about control.
Yeah.
And when he found out he didn't have that control over me, especially because he's not around
me, but for women within a vicinity of this man being able to get to them, that's a little
bit different.
I would just say to take back that control, make sure you have measures in place where
you feel safe, even though every situation is not going to be as safe.
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But for the most part, this, you have to stay vigilant in your mind, especially dealing
with that kind of stuff, that kind of stuff, because everybody going to call you crazy.
I'm still getting called crazy by my whole family.
I promise you ain't nobody but me and God right now.
Yeah.
Like in my spirit thing, but like all my friends is gone.
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If I was you, I would do, I would go to God and ask him to cleanse you because there may
be some remnants of what that man did to you.
Maybe he had, he dropped something off and you may not know about it if you're still
because you sent me the pictures of the scratches, right?
That was you, right?
But you sent me the pictures of the scratches.
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If that's still actively going on, then that man, there is a door open somewhere.
It's not.
It's been about, yeah, it's been about a year now since I received my last scratch.
Okay.
I've been cleansing that man every day.
Oh, those were old.
Yeah.
So that was last year.
Okay.
Cool.
Cool.
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Cool.
Cool.
Cool.
Cool.
Cool.
Cool.
Cool.
Cool.
Cool.
Cool.
Cool.
Cool.
Cool.
Cool.
Cool.
I was just at frame to sit it on the counter, what are you doing?
No.
That man probably enchanted the fuck out of that picture and did cause he going to talk
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about his own why would you leave it here?
I said, I love for you to look at.
Why'd you give me a picture of me here?
Look at me every day.
But anyways, he said, you're going to die in this family.
You stuck in this family forever.
Crazy work.
I said no, I'm not.
And I say, I don't care what you people do when you get here, but you're going to leave
me the fuck alone.
Boy, man, that's definitely controlled.
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man, healthy control. What made you want to tell your story on my podcast? I felt like so for weeks
before I saw that I felt called to do it but I didn't know how to do it on my own and I didn't
know where to start. So when I saw that I was like this is what I've been this is it like I've a
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chance so and I was like I don't think he's gonna message me back but you know let me just shoot
watch out you know. I got one more thing to say this man I had bought some uh some panties right
with his name on the back. I know you've probably seen them panties on tiktok you know what panties
I'm talking about. I bought them damn panties but I never wore them right but they were in my
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suitcase so I told you I didn't have sex with him the last time I saw him but he took them panties
and I don't still to this day I don't know what he did with him but he took them and was like he
said give me these and do whatever he want to do with them. Man those bitches are buried in his
backyard somewhere that's what they had. Why? You got them too. They buried this goddamn backyard.
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Of course of course I appreciate your time and I appreciate you trusting me with your story.
Thank you. Thank you for letting me share my story.
What's happening with you?
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This is the Roi c Gilmore podcast,
where we all don't get no real and it don't come with a filter.
I am your host Roi c Gilmore.
There I have a very special guest,
and this guest will be sharing her experience
with a warlock,
binding spells and witchcraft on her.
Y'all tune in.
Intro
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What is your name?
Where are you from?
My name is Layla Milano.
I'm from Ohio.
Okay, cool.
So, in your experience or from your point of view, what is your experience with the
Oolok?
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How did you meet Oolok?
I met him through one of my best friends.
I had came back home for a wedding and my best friend, she was dating his best friend.
So we ended up at a cookout the next day after the wedding celebration.
And he didn't like me, he didn't want to come out with me.
And he didn't speak to me the whole ride to the cookout because his friend made him
come.
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So he basically wanted me to stay away from him.
I got to the cookout, I was playing games with the family, he told his friend, like he
was watching me the whole time, he told his friend, okay, I want to talk to this girl.
She seems different.
So his friend came up to me, he said, she's a serious, he's a serious person, don't play
with him.
And I said, okay, I gave him my number, we talked, he ended up leaving town or the country.
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And a few weeks after that, he was like, hey, I want you to come to see me.
So he said we was going to talk when he got back to America, but we didn't end up talking,
right?
So I was just living my life.
But no, he said he wanted something serious.
So I said, okay, I'll come see you.
I spent a few weeks over there, about two, three weeks.
And when I got back home.
And you were aware.
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In Nigeria.
Okay.
And he went over to his place.
Yes.
Okay.
Y'all were serious, serious.
Well, that's the thing.
Like I didn't think we were serious, serious until he invited me over there.
And then he was like, I want to be serious.
So I said, okay.
So after that three weeks that I spent there, when I came back, he ended up coming back
here.
And that's when he started to say like, I'm your spiritual husband.
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And I was like, yeah, I'm your spiritual wife.
So I just went along with the whole Okie Doke and he just started, that's when he started
to talk crazy to me.
See what you do, this will happen to you type stuff.
And I was like, okay.
Like I ain't going to nothing.
Explain a little bit deeper on that.
Like what kind of things did he do?
What kind of things did he say?
So basically, if I decided to talk to somebody else, like another man or something like that,
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he would say like, I'll know what you're doing.
I'll see what you're doing.
And then something will happen to you if you betray me basically.
So on that note, I was like, I was kind of weirded out by the way he said it, but I didn't
think much of it because we had just gotten into the beginning of our relationship.
So we're all together at this point or just unofficial?
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We all just fucking here's told me he had somebody right?
Okay, a baby mama.
Okay.
Was he with her or he told me that he was with her for their son.
Okay.
His son has autism, so he has to go back and forth and help her, which I understood that.
But he told me he's like never cross her and I never did.
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But most of the time he was with her.
So he was in between Germany and Nigeria.
Okay.
For the entire relationship.
I probably saw him maybe three times out of two and a half years.
Yeah, that's crazy.
So it was official, but not.
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You know, I was loyal to him, but there was one time I had done something and he called
me like the moment I got done doing the do.
And this was maybe like a month into our relationship.
He wouldn't ever answer my calls.
I would try to tell him like, hey, I'm about to go do this or go do that because he would
tell me that I needed his permission to travel, to do anything, but he wouldn't answer the
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phone.
But the moment I get to where I'm going, he would call me.
The moment I parked my car or the moment I like stopped doing whatever I was doing.
He would tell me you're doing some bullshit.
So I know that with African men or just typically African men, they can be really different.
Fucking controlling and they believe in polygamy for them.
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Yeah.
They don't believe in commit to one woman man.
So that's what he sounds like he was on.
When you was over in Nigeria, did you take part in, did you normally take part in any
rituals or anything like that?
Not that I'm aware of.
The only thing that I'd noticed was kind of odd is that when I was leaving, he would
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take like when I watched in your second part, right?
My bedsheets, he was like, I don't want your scent on the bedsheets.
So he was like, he would ball them all up and then he would go give them to somebody
to wash.
What the fuck?
When I left, right?
What the fuck?
And then he would smell my neck and he would tell me when my period was coming.
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So let me ask.
And then it would come.
Shoot this.
Did the first time y'all had sex, did he say anything out of pocket?
Did he write anything on you?
Was it was there anything odd about the sex that y'all had?
He would say things like, I'm getting ready to leave.
Like you need to, I don't know how to explain it.
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You can be blunt with me because I'm damn sure gonna be blunt with you.
Like you ain't gotta keep your class until that shit hot is.
He would say things like, you need to fuck me like you hate me.
Like I'm about to leave, right?
You ain't about to see me for a while.
Yeah, he would do weird things.
When we had sex, I would say him trying to make me feel insecure about another woman
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having him in that way to where I would want to do it more.
But then he would block me from it.
Like he wouldn't have sex with me.
He would say I'm a holy man, right?
So he would literally not sleep with me.
He wouldn't have sex with me.
But when he did, it was like he was trying to put something on me.
And he would come to me when he needed my energy.
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So I know that from a, because after I went through it, I studied all that shit.
Studied different books.
I read the book of Adam and Eve, the book of Enoch, the Bible.
I studied some of coat things just to get a deeper understanding on what it was that
the woman put on me and what it was that I went through.
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And I know that when he would go days without fucking you, that was him fasting.
I know during Egyptian sex magic, they would fast for, I think it was three days that I
read, three days or multiple days.
They wouldn't be around anybody.
So they would essentially make their energy pure.
That's what he said.
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Yeah.
So I mean, with him being from Africa and he probably know Egyptian sex magic, that's
probably what it was.
So you would fast, you would fast, he would fast.
Y'all wouldn't deal with nobody.
Y'all probably wouldn't talk or anything.
And then y'all would come together and have sex and he would set his intention upon you
or set the intention on whatever it is that he wanted that may have been controlling you,
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that may have been using your energy.
Who fucking knows?
Did you ever ask him, was he putting anything on you?
No, I never asked him, but I could feel it because he gave subtle hints to me that he
was.
And he would say certain things like either before or after we get done, but I never asked
him about it.
I just kind of went along with whatever.
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But I ended up like really just being my mental, even though he wasn't around, I was
stuck to him.
Like I couldn't do nothing.
So I knew it was something.
What kind of things would he say to you before and after that let you know that he was on
bullshit?
He would say, don't have sex with women.
Like I always use a condom.
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I always, I do call it protect myself and I just want to protect you.
That's what he would just kind of try to reassure me.
But then he would say, I'm going to get you pregnant.
You're going to have five babies and you're going to stay in the house.
But he never had sex with me without a condom.
But he always said he's going to get me pregnant.
So what kind of was the deal breaker that let you know for sure that he was a warlock
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and he was doing witchcraft for you?
Yeah, there was the second time I went to see him in Nigeria.
He always makes sure somebody makes my food, right?
Which is okay.
But like, sometimes I make my own food, but he would ask certain people to prepare my
food and one night I was the only person in the house to get sick.
He watched me.
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He said, come and eat.
And I said, okay, he knows that I don't eat a lot.
Now we were supposed to go out that night and after I got done eating, I was like, and
I ate a lot.
If you go to like an Applebee's and you get like a soup bowl, that would fill me up.
So I ate a lot that night and I was like, I never eat this much.
I ended up wanting to go lay down.
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So I ended up going to lay down and about, I would say an hour or two later, I woke up
and I felt like I had to throw up and shit and pass out at the same time.
And I couldn't figure out what was going on.
Now he has cameras all around the house.
So as this was happening, there was his sister in the room.
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So all the commotion is happening, right?
As I'm like, I threw up my whole insides all over the place.
And when he found out, which he already knew because all the commotion, he didn't even
come check on me and he was like, did you drink too much?
Never has this man in his life seen me get drunk or even belligerent to the point where
I would throw up.
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So for him to ask me that and not even ask if I was okay, he was just waiting to see
if something would happen.
And then the second time he was like, him and somebody else went out.
They came back with some food and it was a cheeseburger and some french fries.
He was like, I don't know, you're American.
You like American food or whatever.
You probably tired of eating African food.
Mind you, I eat African food all the time.
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So it doesn't bother my stomach.
He made sure like I ate this burger.
He kept asking, did you eat it?
Did you eat all of it?
I warmed it up.
I cut it in half and I started to eat it.
Then I heard a voice in my head and said, throw it up, throw whatever you just ate
up and I threw it up and I hid the rest of the burger and stuffed it in the back of the
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fridge because he said he wanted half of it.
I gave him the other half, but he never ate it.
But he kept asking if I ate it and the kept check it kept check.
Are you sure you ate all your food?
I said, yeah, I ate it, but I actually threw it up in the bathroom.
So what do you think that he did to it?
I mean, because I've, what?
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The only reason I say that, I don't know what he did to it, but before he brought it home
to me, I had a dream about him.
I took a nap and I had a dream about him and the person he went out with when they came
back, they had food.
So I was like, mm-mm, something right?
What would you see in the dream?
Go ahead.
What would you see in the dream?
I saw him and the other guy, they were sitting at a round table.
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There was a group of people, but the main thing was like, there was a huge bed in the
house that I was in.
And when they got back, they came into the room that I was sleeping in and one of them
was in a wheelchair and one of them was standing up, but they were both talking, but they were
talking to me and they were laughing and cackling.
So it was kind of like a vision, but when they got, when they got back, both of them
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came into the room and I was still laying in the bed and they both was like, we got
you food, but like I said, one of the men was in a wheelchair, not my ex at the time.
And I told them, I said, I saw y'all.
I don't know what y'all be doing, but I saw the both of you and now you in my room, just
like in my dream.
I know when it's, that sounds like a bonding spell with the whole food thing because I
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interviewed a man where the lady made him some spaghetti.
I'm not sure he familiar with that saying, are you?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
I was a young girl when I was younger, making a cheese cake, strawberry cheesecake, fucking
white girl.
Why don't fucking white girl?
Nah.
Yeah, I'm saying she, she had a blood in it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Binding spells, man.
So from him, for him being a man, the only thing I can think of is honestly him jacking
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off on the burger, maybe in the ingredients, spitting in it, putting his hair in it.
You can use any type of body fluids, semen, spit, hair.
You can use shit, piss, anything to bind that person or blood, anything to bind that
person to you.
I believe you because that trip was the one where he said, we need to reestablish trust.
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And that's when I told him, I said, I don't want to sleep with you.
I don't want you to touch me.
I'm going to make my own food.
That is where I think he brought the food for me to bind me again to him because that
was after I cut off all contact.
So he didn't know what else to do at that point because we weren't having sex.
I had been celibate for a year since he had left.
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Damn.
So he was, yeah, he was losing and he would always tell me, I can feel you.
Your energy is low.
Like he would call me when I was pulling my energy back and talk to me, actually talk
to me.
That's how they do, man.
That's how old girl did me.
The more you listen to my story, the more you'll learn.
Guess how deep the shit go and the more you'll wonder how the fuck I'm still alive.
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With him, honestly, I don't, I typically don't, don't do Caribbean women or Hispanic women.
The girl that put the shit on me was a Dominican, Dominican, black and white.
She was pretty.
She was sweet.
Yeah.
You know, behind the compliments and all the sweet stuff she was doing, she's putting
shit on me.
Yeah.
You know, so it's like, I don't give a fuck that you're sweet and that you're pretty if
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you own this type of time when I'm not looking at you.
Then, I don't want you.
And then the end, my free will is what saved me.
Me not wanting to be there.
Me not wanting to be there.
I had my mama then praying and it was a lot, man.
And you know, you'll, you'll learn that, but what, what kept you coming back to this
man?
Was he paying for your trips to Africa?
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No.
In fact, I paid for my, okay, it paid for the first one.
I paid for the second one.
He paid for the third one, but I still spent my own money.
Were the trips expensive?
I don't really, like when I was there, I didn't really have to pay for much.
But if I wanted to do something on my own, because even when I was there, he like, he
paid no attention to me, he was out doing whatever.
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So I was, I mostly by myself, he will put people with me and go be wherever.
So I guess what kept me coming back was, this is so corny embarrassing.
I wanted a family dynamic and their family is very close, right?
To each other.
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I love that.
I mean, I have 10 brothers, right?
And I don't see all of them.
I'm close to maybe two of them, but I just love the family dynamic.
And I was like, wow, I would love to be a part of this.
And the family treats me like family.
So I was like, okay, I got to deal with his little shitty attitude sometimes.
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But no, I gained a family.
That's why I kept coming back.
But I told them that I'm not about to put up with him.
I'm not going to turn my back on y'all.
But I'm not, that don't mean like I got to be with him, right?
So, yeah.
Go ahead, I'm sorry.
No, I mean, yeah.
So he knew the whole situation.
He knew long before I even came back the third time that I wasn't fooling with him.
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But he wanted to keep me in that loop with him.
So, did he ever have sex with you in your period?
He wouldn't.
Okay, one time it came on.
This is one thing he said to me.
He said, there was a girl that I had sex with.
She started bleeding.
He said, and I threw up and I broke up with her.
So he told me, he's like, whenever I smell your neck and I smell your period coming on,
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I won't touch you.
And he never did.
Like when I was bleeding, he didn't.
He would wait a couple of days, make sure it was done.
One day I did bleed a little bit, but he wore a condom.
So like when he saw it, I was like, well, he about to break up with me.
But he didn't.
He didn't.
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He was like, well, I love you too much to break up with you.
Okay.
Did he ever mention the moon, do any type of moon magic with you?
Did he ever want to fuck under a full moon when it was a full moon?
Or did he ever spit in your mouth?
He didn't spit.
Well, maybe I wouldn't call it spitting, but he did a little lot in my mouth with his
tongue.
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Okay.
Did he ever nut in your mouth?
Yeah.
So I know, I know you funny.
He would say, drink it.
Drink it.
So you swallowed it?
Yep.
Okay.
They either want to nut in you or they want to swallow their shit.
So if you're not nutting in you, then the first thing came to mind was he obviously having
her swallow his shit.
So he never.
Ain't no friend in my game.
Hey man, listen, listen, we're grown, ain't I?
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So he never spit in your mother.
But whenever you was giving him that, was it like he wanted you to swallow it all the
time thing or it was just a some time type shit?
I noticed he would say it every time.
He would just say drink it every time.
But I'm not a big head giver, so but anytime that I would, like when he was ready to finish,
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he would say, yeah, drink it, drink it.
And I will be like, sometimes, sometimes I tried, you know, but yeah, just drink it.
You funny, man.
You probably never heard it said that way.
Man, listen, I know that a lot of things go on in the bedroom, but warlocks do typical
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things man.
Having sex with you in your period, whether they constantly nothing in you, want you to
swallow they nut, spitting in your mouth, trying to bind you, whatever the case is,
man, it's some form of fucking control.
Control.
I told him, I said, hey, look, I said, don't come and visit me spiritually.
I'm cutting the cord.
He was like, I didn't give you permission.
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It takes two people to do that, and that's it.
I said, God cut you off, my nigga.
Sorry, forgive me.
No, you're good.
You're good.
What was the climax of this situation?
Were like, like the peak of you and him and its craziness.
I would say when I ended up in the hospital, excuse me, I had a birth.
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I was sleeping one night and I felt a huge wave of heat over my whole body.
Thankfully, my mom was there that night.
So I woke up and I was like, oh God, I don't feel right.
And I was just like walking around.
I woke my mom up.
I'm like, mom, I think I might need to go to the hospital.
And like immediately all of this, like my whole arm, my whole leg, everything was numb.
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And I was like, can you drive me to the hospital?
So we get there, it starts to get worse.
And my blood pressure was through the roof.
The doctors, they wouldn't give me any kind of medicine.
My whole body was on fire.
And I tell you, I felt like I was burning in hell.
I was shaking.
I couldn't even hold a cup to pee.
And they was looking at me crazy.
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So they put me in the stroke unit and they observed me for a few days.
I had to go to physical therapy, very hard to walk.
I called him and he didn't say nothing.
He just looked at me and then I showed him that my mom was there with me.
He was like, you, you all right, you'll be okay.
And so a few days go past, I'm still in a hospital.
These people cannot figure out what was wrong with me.
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They told me I needed to go to see a psychiatrist.
They called, they, okay.
So when I went to go see the, the neurologist.
The neurologist, yeah.
Yeah.
So when they came in, I had to do a series of tests.
These people was like, I don't know.
It might go away in a few years.
You might get your strength back.
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And I told him, and he was just like, I don't even know how you're still alive.
And I was like, okay.
So what was the diagnosis?
Was it like a stroke or?
They, at first they called it a mini stroke, but I have to, I would have to go back and
look at my records to see what they actually tried to diagnose me as.
But basically the diagnosis was that they have no cure for it and they don't know what
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it is.
Okay.
That's typical fucking silent fucking VA, that damn useless.
Mm-hmm.
But, go ahead.
They called it an emotional.
They were like, do you suffer with anxiety, that kind of thing.
I'm like, fine.
I don't take medication.
I don't even like to take regular medicine.
So when I told him that and he said that to me, I simply was like, this man don't care
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about me at all.
He just basically asked me, why am I still alive?
Yeah.
And that put the cherry on top for me.
One of his cousins called me and he was like, you're a chosen one.
And then he called me after that and he said, you're more dangerous than me.
And I was like, dangerous how, but he didn't say nothing.
I was like, okay, I see what these people really on.
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They was trying me.
They saw what they was doing wasn't working.
And the last straw was that God told me to pray for them, right?
So I gathered his family in a circle and I made everybody hold hands and I said, everybody
say a silent prayer like in your head, but we're going to listen to this specific song
that God put on my heart.
And so while we were praying, I said God sent a shockwave through every single person who
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was holding hands right now and released this family from whatever is holding them back,
whatever devil demon entity, whatever is attached to them.
So I made everybody close their eyes too.
By the end of it, and this was like a 10 minute prayer, right?
By the end of it, like the cousin who had came and told me that I was a chosen one, he said,
he opened his eyes.
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He said, I wasn't feeling it all the way.
He said, but the atmosphere changed when you started praying.
And he said, I looked over at my ex then he said he had broke down.
Like he was like, and I kind of opened my eyes like towards the end of the prayer.
And he was like this and like hanging through the side.
Like his friend had to hold him up.
(22:41):
And like, he said, I've never seen him cry like that before.
And he, I guess like a few weeks after that, he had told him that he something was happening
to him during that prayer.
Like something was coming out of him.
I don't know, but they had these manifesting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like so he said, I've never seen him break down like that.
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But after that, I was like, yeah, I can't, I can't be around you.
I cannot have you around me.
You, I said, everything that was attached to you was affecting me.
And I said, you will pay me for pain and suffering because you know what you did to me.
And he said, I will.
So what did, what did this or did teach you?
Like how was your, did you, because I know a lot of times when that happened and God
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allows those things to happen to people to essentially make them more conscious, more
aware and then people typically have spiritual awakenings after shit like that happened to
them.
So was that the case for you or was it something different?
Oh, that was the case for me.
I did, I did isolate myself for a little bit.
Like I went through my little delulu phase of thinking everybody might, you know, be
(23:44):
out to get me.
But I have not succumbed to that kind of mindset.
Good.
I really just think, because he also said to me, he's like, you sure you want to do
this?
He said, it can drive people crazy.
I was like, you don't know how strong I am.
And now you the one looking crazy.
You talking about I can't sleep, can't eat.
I'm over here fine, motherfucker.
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See what you did backfire.
Bet you won't do it again.
You funny, man.
Losing money.
Talk about I'm the witch.
Look at you.
You funny, man.
You're gonna be witch yourself.
Huh?
I understand that though, man.
That's that's how it was when that girl put the shit on me.
Her father died.
The best friends cut off.
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Her money was fucked up.
She lost her job.
Like it was her shit started to crumble.
And you know, I was glad to know that there was some type of spiritual justice for what
she did to me.
I'll never go back to something I prayed my way out of.
Hell yeah.
Hell fuck yeah, man.
And I was the sex between you and him because I know a lot of women, they stay with warlocks
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because of the sex.
I'm not gonna lie.
The sex was bomb.
It was the bomb.com.
But was it was a different from any sex you've had with other men?
It wasn't just good sex.
Was it supernatural sex?
It was a good sex.
It was supernatural for him.
Because he looked like he got oompa loompa pop belly.
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Like, I don't know how we got into them positions to be honest.
I just really know that I'm thinking about it.
Okay.
Yeah, it was good.
Was it something that you found yourself missing when you got out of the situation with him
or was you just fuck all that, fuck the sex, fuck him?
I didn't think about it.
(25:29):
I did miss it.
But at the time, he had taught me how to be alone and celibate for so long that I was
able to live without it with ease.
Easier than like seeing him on a daily basis.
So if I see you once a year for a week or two, you're teaching me how to live without
you.
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And one thing he did say was I'm going to teach you how to be strong and he did that.
So I don't think he meant to meant for them words to backfire on him, but they did.
They did.
Yes.
Spiritual justice.
You taught me how to be too strong.
But yeah.
So what happened to the guy that you dealt with in the beginning?
I know you said that when he was away, you had, you know, you did something with another
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dude, what happened to him, which I was still talking to the old boy, put something on him
or what?
I never heard from him again after that.
And you know what?
As a fact, I'm gonna piggyback off of that because anytime that I would pull the way
and just be like, you know, go about your business.
And I wasn't doing nothing.
I wouldn't fucking nobody.
(26:34):
But if anybody tried to talk to me in that manner, like a man, they would just fuck this
beer never to be heard from again.
So did you ever ask God because I always asked this question.
Did you ever ask God to reveal to you what this man was doing to you?
I did.
What did he show you?
What did he say to you?
He, I can't say it like he showed me, showed me everything, but he started to show me things
(26:57):
like his baby mama, their son.
And he showed me him and his family, but they were all like kind of tragic situations that
he were dealing with.
And he started to show me there was a girl that he was dealing with here in Ohio that
I didn't know he had a whole place with.
Damn.
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So, and she was helping run the company here that I was supposed to be running.
So he showed me that and then he showed me that he could possibly have a child on the
way.
And when I told him about this dream, he was like, well, I'm glad you told me because
this woman just said she wanted to, you know, but she's been talking about kids.
And I told him in the dream, I saw him like he was in regret and sorrow, but I was the
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one holding and helping him take care of the child in the dream.
And he didn't want nothing to do with it.
And it was like a court setting.
And maybe I don't know if she would have put him on child support or something.
But he just started to reveal a lot of things that were going on in his life.
And then he would start to tell me about them, but I wouldn't tell him my dreams.
He would just confirm them.
Right.
Okay.
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And so I told him, I had to tell you a couple of little small details because he would
tell me like, oh, I don't take anything seriously.
When I told him my dreams, that's why I stopped telling him.
I seen him, he had came into the room with me, like his spirit, so you would call it.
Like he said that shadow person shadow person you saw, I saw him when I got with somebody
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else.
It was standing in the corner of that man's room.
And I was like, I was like, yeah, he said, he said, no.
Okay.
Anyways, besides the point, I told him, I was like, it was your family gathering.
You were trying to talk to me.
You sat on the bed and you started crying, but you couldn't get the words out to tell
me what was wrong with you.
And then after that, it was his baby mama.
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She tried to, it was his celebration in the house of birthday.
And on that birthday, she blew the candle out.
She facetime him.
She went into the mother's basement and she drowned herself in the tub.
And then the baby would come back and forth.
Him and the mother would come back and forth.
The day I was quiet, he was like, what's wrong, what's wrong, what's going on?
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And all I heard was getting the water, getting the water.
And I told him, it's like, when I went to look it up, the lyrics, it was like a life
for a life.
And he said, my best friend's son, like my best friend's son died this morning.
Like the wife was pregnant.
He was like, if you would have said something to me, we could have prayed over it.
I'm like, I wasn't instructed to say nothing to you, but it's not my fault.
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Right.
Sometimes it's karma.
Everything that God revealed to you ain't meant for you to shout with them all.
And it's like, that sounds like a destiny swap.
I'm saying like, you ever seen the movie, the skeleton key?
No, I don't like scare me least.
Skeleton key is about, it's about a witchcraft.
It's about a destiny swap.
That's like, fucking terrifying movie.
I ain't gonna lie to you.
I ain't gonna watch it.
I ain't gonna love you.
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When you've had your own experience with witchcraft, it hit different when you watch movies about
witchcraft.
It do.
It does.
I've watched some.
These people, you really have to have discernment because you never know when the motherfucker
is out to get you.
You think that this man is just your saving grace, or this woman is your saving grace.
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And they're approaching you when they've been watching you for a while.
They are on assignment and they are.
It's like a predator-prey relationship.
I started to question everybody around them, but there was one person that he would always
stick with me.
I'm not calling my big brother, but one day, God had put in my heart to tell him to read
the scripture, and I gotta go back to the scripture because I don't remember it.
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But I just woke up and I was like, I text him.
I said, Marish, read this when you wake up every day.
I said, because you were put in something that doesn't have anything to do with you.
And so when he read it, he said, whoa.
He said, I used to read the scripture walking to school every single day as a child.
He said, how did you know to send it to me?
I said, I don't know.
It's just what I heard.
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And he's the only one who's protecting me from these people the entire time.
He's never.
Yeah.
Like that.
That's how my mama was.
My mama was my rock man.
I miss that lady.
But if you had to give advice to young ladies about dealing with men or warlocks, what would
you say?
I would say, because it's hard to give advice because the veil is over their eyes.
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So a lot of people who are not spiritually aware are not going to really see the signs.
You could be dealing with a narcissist, but if you're not willing to pay attention, I
would say just it's hard to tell another woman not to feel some type of way about loving
a man.
Right.
But trust me, I know.
They get in my fucking inbox, pay me for advice, I give it to them, and they fucking
(31:42):
argue with me.
You done paid me damn money for advice.
I give you advice, and you telling me, but he loves me, but I love him.
I don't want to leave him.
Okay, we'll fucking stay there.
I'm always saying it's hard because I had a friend who I recently cut off as of the
new year.
I had a dream about her man who was cheating, and the dream ended in us not being friends.
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So I told her, I said, Hey, I saw you in the hotel room with another girl.
And as we walk it out, like me, it was me, you and three other girls, but y'all went
one way and I went another way and we wasn't friends.
So that night she says my cousin just found him on a dating site and he didn't know she
was my cousin.
So they ended up breaking up.
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She was at my house crying.
She was like, your dream confirmed him, my cousin confirmed it.
Then she came back to me after she went back to him and was like, I don't want to hear
about your dreams.
I'll use my own discernment.
Crazy work.
Crazy work.
I just put a post on TikTok that said, I'm not doing any more interviews with women about
experience with warlock.
I don't know if you saw it or not.
I did.
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I put it up for that very fucking reason.
Women don't listen.
I just say, you know, it may not be easy to see the red flags at first, but if you're
like, if you're a woman picking up on it in 2025, like ain't nothing a secret no more.
It's all in our face.
You can't be that blind.
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The blind is leading the blind, I guess, but as a woman who went through that and healed
from it, it is the most, I don't know, you know the word jubilee?
Yeah.
That's it's fucking jubilee over here.
Yeah.
Like, and I was scared of him for a long time.
He had people coming by my house and it was just.
(33:29):
Controlling.
It's about control.
Yeah.
And when he found out he didn't have that control over me, especially because he's not around
me, but for women within a vicinity of this man being able to get to them, that's a little
bit different.
I would just say to take back that control, make sure you have measures in place where
you feel safe, even though every situation is not going to be as safe.
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But for the most part, this, you have to stay vigilant in your mind, especially dealing
with that kind of stuff, that kind of stuff, because everybody going to call you crazy.
I'm still getting called crazy by my whole family.
I promise you ain't nobody but me and God right now.
Yeah.
Like in my spirit thing, but like all my friends is gone.
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If I was you, I would do, I would go to God and ask him to cleanse you because there may
be some remnants of what that man did to you.
Maybe he had, he dropped something off and you may not know about it if you're still
because you sent me the pictures of the scratches, right?
That was you, right?
But you sent me the pictures of the scratches.
(34:30):
If that's still actively going on, then that man, there is a door open somewhere.
It's not.
It's been about, yeah, it's been about a year now since I received my last scratch.
Okay.
I've been cleansing that man every day.
Oh, those were old.
Yeah.
So that was last year.
Okay.
Cool.
Cool.
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Cool.
Cool.
Cool.
Cool.
Cool.
Cool.
Cool.
Cool.
Cool.
Cool.
Cool.
Cool.
Cool.
Cool.
Cool.
I was just at frame to sit it on the counter, what are you doing?
No.
That man probably enchanted the fuck out of that picture and did cause he going to talk
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about his own why would you leave it here?
I said, I love for you to look at.
Why'd you give me a picture of me here?
Look at me every day.
But anyways, he said, you're going to die in this family.
You stuck in this family forever.
Crazy work.
I said no, I'm not.
And I say, I don't care what you people do when you get here, but you're going to leave
me the fuck alone.
Boy, man, that's definitely controlled.
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man, healthy control. What made you want to tell your story on my podcast? I felt like so for weeks
before I saw that I felt called to do it but I didn't know how to do it on my own and I didn't
know where to start. So when I saw that I was like this is what I've been this is it like I've a
(35:56):
chance so and I was like I don't think he's gonna message me back but you know let me just shoot
watch out you know. I got one more thing to say this man I had bought some uh some panties right
with his name on the back. I know you've probably seen them panties on tiktok you know what panties
I'm talking about. I bought them damn panties but I never wore them right but they were in my
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suitcase so I told you I didn't have sex with him the last time I saw him but he took them panties
and I don't still to this day I don't know what he did with him but he took them and was like he
said give me these and do whatever he want to do with them. Man those bitches are buried in his
backyard somewhere that's what they had. Why? You got them too. They buried this goddamn backyard.
(36:41):
Of course of course I appreciate your time and I appreciate you trusting me with your story.
Thank you. Thank you for letting me share my story.
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