October 28, 2024 • 15 mins
Navigating Single Motherhood: Empowerment, Challenges, and Community
In this episode of 'Spill the Tea with Bri,' host Bri engages in a heartfelt and honest discussion with Anna about the intricate journey of single motherhood. Anna recounts her journey from an unexpected pregnancy to planned motherhood with her then-husband. The conversation covers emotional preparedness, societal pressures, and the unique challenges single mothers face. Emphasizing the importance of intentionality in motherhood, the episode highlights the significance of building a supportive community or 'village,' addressing the stigma and isolation single mothers often experience. The discussion serves as a source of comfort and guidance, promoting solidarity and mutual support among single mothers.
00:00 Welcome to Spill the Tea with Bri
00:50 Anna's Journey to Single Motherhood
01:18 The Unexpected Pregnancy
02:18 Planned Parenthood and Life Goals
05:06 Support Systems and Motherhood
07:19 Challenges of Co-Parenting
08:53 Choosing Motherhood with Conviction
11:23 Support Systems and Sisterhood
11:52 Building Your Own Village
12:39 The Importance of Community
13:20 The Dangers of Isolation
14:52 Concluding Thoughts and Next Steps
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Bribri (00:00):
Welcome to Spill the Tea with Bri, the podcast where
we're spilling all the tea onsingle motherhood, self care,
and dating.
I'm Bri, your host and fellowsingle mom, navigating life,
love, and everything in between.
Whether you're freshly single,thriving, or still figuring it
all out, this is the place whereyou'll find real stories, honest
(00:22):
advice, and a community thatjust gets it.
So grab your favorite drink, getcomfy, and let's dive into some
juicy conversations that'llinspire, empower, and keep it
all the way real.
Ready?
Let's spill the tea.
All right.
So thank you.
(00:43):
When I, when I get it, do it, Ican do it.
Um, but today we have Anna, um,here with us today to share her
success story.
Um, and so I actually, this isnot on the list, um, but I, I
(01:05):
just want to know, like, how didyou, what is your journey to
single motherhood?
Because.
Everybody's journey is a littlebit different.
Ooh, that's good girl.
Yeah.
Well, my journey, I'm gonna keepit 100.
Um, I was out and about, it wasMemorial Day weekend.
I was out, I was at the clubwith my girls and met this man
(01:26):
and went home with him the onlytime I've ever done it, and um,
yeah.
Had unprotected sex.
And you know what was hellaweird?
I had like, God speak to me andit was like, you're pregnant.
And I was like, fuck.
(01:48):
And like, I, it was likeinstant, like, it was like a
sign, you know?
And I was like, all right.
And then I was like, okay, well,let me wait.
If I miss my period, then it'sfor real.
So wait, when you said that youhad God tell you.
Yeah.
Was that like in the moment orwas that like a couple weeks
after, but before themiscarriage?
It was that night.
Yeah.
Oh, that night.
(02:09):
Literally like, it happened.
It's official.
And I was like, uh, did I justhear what I think I heard?
Oh my God.
Yeah.
So that was number one.
And then baby number two, I havetwo kids, was a couple of years
later with my husband and Iwanted kids.
I was, you know, I had myfirstborn.
He was like a year and a halfwhen we met.
(02:30):
And yeah, so the second one wasdefinitely planned and we tried,
we tried for like three or fourmonths to make that happen.
I was like tracking my cycle,you know, waiting for the
ovulation and then I would getsad when it like didn't happen
and then it did, you know, and Iwas so happy and That's my
(02:50):
story, girl.
But I always knew I wanted to bea mom.
Like when I was a little girl,like I was a teacher, I was a
camp counselor.
I was a coach.
Like I was always with the kids.
It was always in the cards forme.
Like, I didn't think it wasgoing to happen like that, but I
was also like, well, girl, likeyou're a teacher, you're 27, you
know, you're not a teenager,like you got this, this, you
(03:11):
know, you're raised by a singlemom.
Like, you know what it is.
But yeah, yeah.
Wow.
So you said you had your, youroldest, um, through the, was it?
Did it end up being a one nightstand?
Yeah.
Well, I mean, we like dated alittle bit, but he was not the
(03:33):
one like it was very obvious.
And, um, you know, we co parentbut, um, girl, I don't know
sometimes shit like that happensand it was interesting because
like a lot of women strugglewith fertility, you know, and I
just Didn't, you know, I mean,maybe with the, with the ex
(03:56):
husband, but it was also like afull moon.
It was hella weird.
The astrology was super aligned.
I looked at my cycle cause I'vebeen tracking my cycle for
years.
And it was like the first day ofovulation.
You know, he was like, are yousure?
How do you know we need a DNAtest?
Blah, blah, blah.
And I was like, look at my app.
I'm a Virgo rising.
(04:16):
Like, I don't play about this.
Like, It's in the calendar, likeI swear to God, you know, and,
um, it was just hella funny thatlike the God universe told me
you're pregnant, like, period,and I was like, and I kind of
knew it was true though, youknow what I mean?
Like that's never happenedbefore.
(04:37):
I was with a boyfriend for likesix years and never got
pregnant, you know what I'msaying?
Literally.
It was meant to be.
It was meant to be, you knowwhat I mean?
I think that we need to takeaway the shame and the stigma
when like.
You know, if you're a womanthat's like ready, willing,
capable, emotionally prepared,like do it girl, you know,
(04:58):
unless something really screams,no, like you can do it, you
know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
We were just having, um, I washanging out with my friends
last, the weekend before last.
Um, and you know, we're all oneis 30.
And then, no, two of us are 30.
And then my, myself and ourother friend, we've been friends
(05:21):
since like elementary, middleschool, we're turning 30 in the
next couple of months.
So, you know, I'm turning 30next week, but, um, you know,
one of the one who's almostturning 30 as well, uh, just
kind of, uh, was sharing how,um, you know, she thought that
(05:43):
she'd be married and have kidsby now.
And, uh, and I'm like, havekids.
Like, you, you, you're notalone.
I'm home all day.
I will watch your baby like forfree.
I literally, I'll watch yourbaby for free because I love
babies.
But what I will not do is, youknow, like keep your baby
(06:03):
overnight too often because thenI will not be able to show up
well, but during the day I willhang out with your baby.
I will take care of your babywhile you work and you know, you
still do that thing, whateveryou got to do.
And I know her parents, too,would also be very helpful.
(06:27):
If you want the kid, have thekid.
And then, you know.
Yeah, I mean, I get it.
Some women just don't.
But if you're born and you have,like, mother instincts, and
you've always were, like, thebabysitter, you were always,
like, with the kids and, like,At the family party, you're
like, not with the adults,you're like with the kids, like,
have the child, you know whatI'm saying?
(06:48):
Like, that's, yeah.
Yeah, definitely.
It's, especially in today's Ageor whatever the expression is.
I'm terrible with idioms.
Um, you would think I wasn'tlike born here and English
wasn't my first language the waythat I'm really bad at idioms.
(07:08):
So many people end up doing itanyway.
Like marrying someone isn't aguarantee that they will raise
the child with you anymore.
Unfortunately.
That's what I'm saying.
And like a lot of couples, likeyou don't know who someone is
until number one, like you movein with them.
Right.
Number two, the baby arrives.
(07:28):
Like you guys could be fine onyour own.
That's what happened with my exhusband.
We were fine on our own.
We were fine with my littletoddler.
But then when the baby came,like he just couldn't handle it.
We were just talking aboutcapacity and threshold and like,
he just was not able to, youknow what I mean?
Like, obviously you got your ownstory and your own upbringing,
(07:51):
but I was like, well, I mean, I,this is my life path, you know?
So I'm, I'm doing this andobviously I would love help and
support and a partner, but ifnot, We press on, you know,
yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
Which is such a, like, I agreewith that now, but I have gone
(08:14):
through my fair share of likethe bitter, the anger, the
sorrow about it all on my behalfat first.
Cause I had, I had my oldestwhen I was 19.
Okay.
Um, and both my kids, they're 10and five and they have the same
dad.
And so he, he was fine with,with the, with my oldest.
(08:34):
And then it's like after thesecond baby came, that's where
the issues.
That's interesting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So who knows now he's just likea distant uncle.
He lives like out of state andstuff.
You sound so sure aboutmotherhood that you're kind of
(08:58):
like, I'm doing this regardless.
Right, but you sound like you'resaying it from a space of choice
intentionality and conviction,whereas a lot of single moms,
myself included at one point, itfelt like there was no choice,
(09:20):
like, he's allowed to abandonthe kids, but I'm not.
And you know, like, I don't havethat choice.
It's like, technically, I could,right.
But you are choosing it andyou're like in that of like,
well, I wanted to be a momanyway.
(09:41):
Yeah.
I'm one of those girls.
Like if I didn't meet a partneror do something, I would get an
egg, like a sperm donor.
You know what I mean?
Like I'm one of those girls andcoming from San Francisco, I'm
born and raised over there.
A lot of folks don't have kidsuntil like thirties or, you
know, 40, you know, cause it'sCalifornia.
Right.
And so I was like, I mean, thatwould be So sad, but I knew like
(10:04):
abortion was never in the cardsfor me.
Maybe if there was like a rapesituation or I was a teenager or
like, I didn't have the mentalstrength and like surety like
you're talking about maybe, butthat's just not me.
That's not my personality.
That's not my, like, that's notme.
And I don't have any shame orwhatever for any women that do
do that because you're doingwhat you need to do, girl.
(10:25):
Like.
Nobody knows better than you.
Right.
Yeah.
But you know, at the end of theday, so much of the weight falls
on the woman anyways, you know,the whole like a married single
mom thing.
I keep seeing a lot.
Um, yeah, that was me, you know,I kinda, it's just such a common
thing these days that it's sure.
(10:48):
There are still people who likestigmatize it and the stigma is
still definitely there, butit's, there's just as many, if
not more people who just see itas like part of life.
Yeah.
And I think what we need more ofis just good mothers.
You know what I mean?
Think of all the people thathave kids by accident or they
(11:08):
think they're supposed to, butthey're just like not attentive.
They're not around.
And then the kid is like sad andlooking for other role models
and parental figures.
And it's like, if you want it,figure it out.
You could become an auntie.
You can adopt a baby.
You can help another single mom.
Like I wouldn't be where I amtoday without my squad of
sisters, like my sisterhood.
(11:29):
Is so solid.
And it's not my family.
My family is not very kidfriendly.
And that was really sad for me.
They were kind of guilttripping.
They were on the abortion train.
They were very aggressive withme.
And I'm like, none of y'all everworked with kids.
Like none of you have ever beeninterested.
And I'm.
How dare you speak to me likethis, you know what I'm saying?
(11:49):
So that's why I live in St.
Louis.
And I'm like, this is where I'mraising my family.
This is my village over here.
So you also have to build yourown.
Yes, yes, 100%.
And I think it can be incrediblylonely if you don't do that as a
single mom.
(12:09):
just whoever your community is,you know, it doesn't have to be
family.
It can be friends.
It can be other single moms.
It can be, you know, a partnerwho's not necessarily the person
that you had kids with.
But I recommend that you don'tjust leave it as just your
partner.
Cause that's still, or even kidis a lot for two people.
(12:32):
One person, it's a whole lot,two people.
It's a whole lot, but like avillage, there's a reason the
expression exists.
But that community piece, evenif it's just like starting
online, just finding But it alsohas like a really deep and like,
I think it's really nice to havesome people who are going
through the same thing online.
I mean, heck, that's part of whyI'm doing what I do so that.
People can at least feel likethey have a sense of community
(12:55):
in this sense of like, okay,they're talking about stuff that
I've been through.
Yeah.
So I'm not alone.
Cause I've been, I've been inthat alone, like feeling like.
I didn't have any support as asingle mom.
And it's just not, it's just nota fun place to be.
It's, I don't even want to sayit's not fun.
It's deadly.
Yeah.
(13:16):
It's deadly.
Yeah.
Deadly.
That's the word.
That's the word.
They say, cancers, it's when acell isolates and it, it mutates
into a cancer cell.
And then it like creates morecancer cells, you know?
So isolation is the problem,like Corona and the lockdowns.
I'm like, This is so tough.
(13:39):
I was like, this is really evil.
Like a lot of people are notgoing to make it out of this
because they don't like thewherewithal to, to be solid.
And, um, women like we can dothis, man.
We're built for this, but wecan't do it without a tribe.
We need elders.
We need people like, do you haveteenagers?
Are your kids in college?
(13:59):
Do you have grandbabies?
Like, give me some wisdom.
You know, how do you co parentsuccessfully?
What did you do when your dad?
When the father was arrested orin prison, like how did you
handle shit?
You know what I'm saying?
Like we need these narrativesand stories.
That, um, it's dangerous to betaboo, right?
(14:20):
Like it is deadly, like yousaid, like people will die if,
if we don't commune.
Yeah, it's, um, I'm not going totell my whole, uh, sob story,
but I literally, I have a friendwho died.
Oof that of just the singlemotherhood journey was just, I
actually don't even know ifthat's the exact reason, but
(14:44):
definitely though, right?
Like if it, it was, if it was acumulative, like it had to be
definitely part Yeah.
A serious player.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, my gosh, it looks.
Like our call got cut shortright there.
But don't worry.
Part two is coming up next.
I'm so excited reading.
(15:04):
To hear the rest of theconversation.
It got soup.
It was already lit, but it gotsuper.
After this.
Um, I may actually, uh, Edit itinto two more episodes instead
of just one more episode.
Episode, because it really wenton that long.
We'll see how much I end uphaving to cut out.
But I just want to say thank youso, so much for.
(15:24):
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Welcome to Spill the Tea with Bri, the podcast where
we're spilling all the tea onsingle motherhood, self care,
and dating.
I'm Bri, your host and fellowsingle mom, navigating life,
love, and everything in between.
Whether you're freshly single,thriving, or still figuring it
all out, this is the place whereyou'll find real stories, honest
(00:22):
advice, and a community thatjust gets it.
So grab your favorite drink, getcomfy, and let's dive into some
juicy conversations that'llinspire, empower, and keep it
all the way real.
Ready?
Let's spill the tea.
All right.
So thank you.
(00:43):
When I, when I get it, do it, Ican do it.
Um, but today we have Anna, um,here with us today to share her
success story.
Um, and so I actually, this isnot on the list, um, but I, I
(01:05):
just want to know, like, how didyou, what is your journey to
single motherhood?
Because.
Everybody's journey is a littlebit different.
Ooh, that's good girl.
Yeah.
Well, my journey, I'm gonna keepit 100.
Um, I was out and about, it wasMemorial Day weekend.
I was out, I was at the clubwith my girls and met this man
(01:26):
and went home with him the onlytime I've ever done it, and um,
yeah.
Had unprotected sex.
And you know what was hellaweird?
I had like, God speak to me andit was like, you're pregnant.
And I was like, fuck.
(01:48):
And like, I, it was likeinstant, like, it was like a
sign, you know?
And I was like, all right.
And then I was like, okay, well,let me wait.
If I miss my period, then it'sfor real.
So wait, when you said that youhad God tell you.
Yeah.
Was that like in the moment orwas that like a couple weeks
after, but before themiscarriage?
It was that night.
Yeah.
Oh, that night.
(02:09):
Literally like, it happened.
It's official.
And I was like, uh, did I justhear what I think I heard?
Oh my God.
Yeah.
So that was number one.
And then baby number two, I havetwo kids, was a couple of years
later with my husband and Iwanted kids.
I was, you know, I had myfirstborn.
He was like a year and a halfwhen we met.
(02:30):
And yeah, so the second one wasdefinitely planned and we tried,
we tried for like three or fourmonths to make that happen.
I was like tracking my cycle,you know, waiting for the
ovulation and then I would getsad when it like didn't happen
and then it did, you know, and Iwas so happy and That's my
(02:50):
story, girl.
But I always knew I wanted to bea mom.
Like when I was a little girl,like I was a teacher, I was a
camp counselor.
I was a coach.
Like I was always with the kids.
It was always in the cards forme.
Like, I didn't think it wasgoing to happen like that, but I
was also like, well, girl, likeyou're a teacher, you're 27, you
know, you're not a teenager,like you got this, this, you
(03:11):
know, you're raised by a singlemom.
Like, you know what it is.
But yeah, yeah.
Wow.
So you said you had your, youroldest, um, through the, was it?
Did it end up being a one nightstand?
Yeah.
Well, I mean, we like dated alittle bit, but he was not the
(03:33):
one like it was very obvious.
And, um, you know, we co parentbut, um, girl, I don't know
sometimes shit like that happensand it was interesting because
like a lot of women strugglewith fertility, you know, and I
just Didn't, you know, I mean,maybe with the, with the ex
(03:56):
husband, but it was also like afull moon.
It was hella weird.
The astrology was super aligned.
I looked at my cycle cause I'vebeen tracking my cycle for
years.
And it was like the first day ofovulation.
You know, he was like, are yousure?
How do you know we need a DNAtest?
Blah, blah, blah.
And I was like, look at my app.
I'm a Virgo rising.
(04:16):
Like, I don't play about this.
Like, It's in the calendar, likeI swear to God, you know, and,
um, it was just hella funny thatlike the God universe told me
you're pregnant, like, period,and I was like, and I kind of
knew it was true though, youknow what I mean?
Like that's never happenedbefore.
(04:37):
I was with a boyfriend for likesix years and never got
pregnant, you know what I'msaying?
Literally.
It was meant to be.
It was meant to be, you knowwhat I mean?
I think that we need to takeaway the shame and the stigma
when like.
You know, if you're a womanthat's like ready, willing,
capable, emotionally prepared,like do it girl, you know,
(04:58):
unless something really screams,no, like you can do it, you
know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
We were just having, um, I washanging out with my friends
last, the weekend before last.
Um, and you know, we're all oneis 30.
And then, no, two of us are 30.
And then my, myself and ourother friend, we've been friends
(05:21):
since like elementary, middleschool, we're turning 30 in the
next couple of months.
So, you know, I'm turning 30next week, but, um, you know,
one of the one who's almostturning 30 as well, uh, just
kind of, uh, was sharing how,um, you know, she thought that
(05:43):
she'd be married and have kidsby now.
And, uh, and I'm like, havekids.
Like, you, you, you're notalone.
I'm home all day.
I will watch your baby like forfree.
I literally, I'll watch yourbaby for free because I love
babies.
But what I will not do is, youknow, like keep your baby
(06:03):
overnight too often because thenI will not be able to show up
well, but during the day I willhang out with your baby.
I will take care of your babywhile you work and you know, you
still do that thing, whateveryou got to do.
And I know her parents, too,would also be very helpful.
(06:27):
If you want the kid, have thekid.
And then, you know.
Yeah, I mean, I get it.
Some women just don't.
But if you're born and you have,like, mother instincts, and
you've always were, like, thebabysitter, you were always,
like, with the kids and, like,At the family party, you're
like, not with the adults,you're like with the kids, like,
have the child, you know whatI'm saying?
(06:48):
Like, that's, yeah.
Yeah, definitely.
It's, especially in today's Ageor whatever the expression is.
I'm terrible with idioms.
Um, you would think I wasn'tlike born here and English
wasn't my first language the waythat I'm really bad at idioms.
(07:08):
So many people end up doing itanyway.
Like marrying someone isn't aguarantee that they will raise
the child with you anymore.
Unfortunately.
That's what I'm saying.
And like a lot of couples, likeyou don't know who someone is
until number one, like you movein with them.
Right.
Number two, the baby arrives.
(07:28):
Like you guys could be fine onyour own.
That's what happened with my exhusband.
We were fine on our own.
We were fine with my littletoddler.
But then when the baby came,like he just couldn't handle it.
We were just talking aboutcapacity and threshold and like,
he just was not able to, youknow what I mean?
Like, obviously you got your ownstory and your own upbringing,
(07:51):
but I was like, well, I mean, I,this is my life path, you know?
So I'm, I'm doing this andobviously I would love help and
support and a partner, but ifnot, We press on, you know,
yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
Which is such a, like, I agreewith that now, but I have gone
(08:14):
through my fair share of likethe bitter, the anger, the
sorrow about it all on my behalfat first.
Cause I had, I had my oldestwhen I was 19.
Okay.
Um, and both my kids, they're 10and five and they have the same
dad.
And so he, he was fine with,with the, with my oldest.
(08:34):
And then it's like after thesecond baby came, that's where
the issues.
That's interesting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So who knows now he's just likea distant uncle.
He lives like out of state andstuff.
You sound so sure aboutmotherhood that you're kind of
(08:58):
like, I'm doing this regardless.
Right, but you sound like you'resaying it from a space of choice
intentionality and conviction,whereas a lot of single moms,
myself included at one point, itfelt like there was no choice,
(09:20):
like, he's allowed to abandonthe kids, but I'm not.
And you know, like, I don't havethat choice.
It's like, technically, I could,right.
But you are choosing it andyou're like in that of like,
well, I wanted to be a momanyway.
(09:41):
Yeah.
I'm one of those girls.
Like if I didn't meet a partneror do something, I would get an
egg, like a sperm donor.
You know what I mean?
Like I'm one of those girls andcoming from San Francisco, I'm
born and raised over there.
A lot of folks don't have kidsuntil like thirties or, you
know, 40, you know, cause it'sCalifornia.
Right.
And so I was like, I mean, thatwould be So sad, but I knew like
(10:04):
abortion was never in the cardsfor me.
Maybe if there was like a rapesituation or I was a teenager or
like, I didn't have the mentalstrength and like surety like
you're talking about maybe, butthat's just not me.
That's not my personality.
That's not my, like, that's notme.
And I don't have any shame orwhatever for any women that do
do that because you're doingwhat you need to do, girl.
(10:25):
Like.
Nobody knows better than you.
Right.
Yeah.
But you know, at the end of theday, so much of the weight falls
on the woman anyways, you know,the whole like a married single
mom thing.
I keep seeing a lot.
Um, yeah, that was me, you know,I kinda, it's just such a common
thing these days that it's sure.
(10:48):
There are still people who likestigmatize it and the stigma is
still definitely there, butit's, there's just as many, if
not more people who just see itas like part of life.
Yeah.
And I think what we need more ofis just good mothers.
You know what I mean?
Think of all the people thathave kids by accident or they
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think they're supposed to, butthey're just like not attentive.
They're not around.
And then the kid is like sad andlooking for other role models
and parental figures.
And it's like, if you want it,figure it out.
You could become an auntie.
You can adopt a baby.
You can help another single mom.
Like I wouldn't be where I amtoday without my squad of
sisters, like my sisterhood.
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Is so solid.
And it's not my family.
My family is not very kidfriendly.
And that was really sad for me.
They were kind of guilttripping.
They were on the abortion train.
They were very aggressive withme.
And I'm like, none of y'all everworked with kids.
Like none of you have ever beeninterested.
And I'm.
How dare you speak to me likethis, you know what I'm saying?
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So that's why I live in St.
Louis.
And I'm like, this is where I'mraising my family.
This is my village over here.
So you also have to build yourown.
Yes, yes, 100%.
And I think it can be incrediblylonely if you don't do that as a
single mom.
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just whoever your community is,you know, it doesn't have to be
family.
It can be friends.
It can be other single moms.
It can be, you know, a partnerwho's not necessarily the person
that you had kids with.
But I recommend that you don'tjust leave it as just your
partner.
Cause that's still, or even kidis a lot for two people.
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One person, it's a whole lot,two people.
It's a whole lot, but like avillage, there's a reason the
expression exists.
But that community piece, evenif it's just like starting
online, just finding But it alsohas like a really deep and like,
I think it's really nice to havesome people who are going
through the same thing online.
I mean, heck, that's part of whyI'm doing what I do so that.
People can at least feel likethey have a sense of community
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in this sense of like, okay,they're talking about stuff that
I've been through.
Yeah.
So I'm not alone.
Cause I've been, I've been inthat alone, like feeling like.
I didn't have any support as asingle mom.
And it's just not, it's just nota fun place to be.
It's, I don't even want to sayit's not fun.
It's deadly.
Yeah.
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It's deadly.
Yeah.
Deadly.
That's the word.
That's the word.
They say, cancers, it's when acell isolates and it, it mutates
into a cancer cell.
And then it like creates morecancer cells, you know?
So isolation is the problem,like Corona and the lockdowns.
I'm like, This is so tough.
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I was like, this is really evil.
Like a lot of people are notgoing to make it out of this
because they don't like thewherewithal to, to be solid.
And, um, women like we can dothis, man.
We're built for this, but wecan't do it without a tribe.
We need elders.
We need people like, do you haveteenagers?
Are your kids in college?
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Do you have grandbabies?
Like, give me some wisdom.
You know, how do you co parentsuccessfully?
What did you do when your dad?
When the father was arrested orin prison, like how did you
handle shit?
You know what I'm saying?
Like we need these narrativesand stories.
That, um, it's dangerous to betaboo, right?
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Like it is deadly, like yousaid, like people will die if,
if we don't commune.
Yeah, it's, um, I'm not going totell my whole, uh, sob story,
but I literally, I have a friendwho died.
Oof that of just the singlemotherhood journey was just, I
actually don't even know ifthat's the exact reason, but
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definitely though, right?
Like if it, it was, if it was acumulative, like it had to be
definitely part Yeah.
A serious player.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, my gosh, it looks.
Like our call got cut shortright there.
But don't worry.
Part two is coming up next.
I'm so excited reading.
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To hear the rest of theconversation.
It got soup.
It was already lit, but it gotsuper.
After this.
Um, I may actually, uh, Edit itinto two more episodes instead
of just one more episode.
Episode, because it really wenton that long.
We'll see how much I end uphaving to cut out.
But I just want to say thank youso, so much for.
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We're listening to the singlemom glow up.
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Mamma.
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