August 11, 2024 • 44 mins
Armando & Joey discuss the first 2 Mexican porn films ever made. Both films were shot in the 1980’s & released in the 1990’s. Both films were first covered in the book “El Cine Pornografico Mexicano De Los 90” by E. Román.
Las Profesoras Del Amor (1993)
Starring: Velma Collins, Francis Lara, Alfonso Herrera
Director: Angel Rodríguez Vázquez
Despertar Del Sexo (1995)
Starring: Yeraldine Willches, Claudia Patricia, Carlos Luzuriaga, Omar Silver, Baby Lenk
Director: Angel Rodríguez Vázquez
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(01:00):
Good evening, good morning, good night, or whatever.
(01:23):
This is the first episode of the Trash Mix podcast.
I am your host, Armando Hernandez.
I am the founder of Trash Mix, a blog and film programming
from Southern California with my co-host.
My name is Joey Diaz.
I'm based out of LA, part of the rendezvous
collectives that some of you may or may not know.
But yeah, man, we're here doing the inaugural episode
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of the Trash Mix podcast.
It's been a long time.
I've been begging you to do it for a while.
Yeah, Joey's been like, you need to do it.
Other people have been telling me too.
And they're like, yeah.
And then they'll tell me, like, let's do it.
And I'm like, OK.
And then I'll tell them, well, let's do it.
And then they never get back to me.
Joey's been the only one that's been telling me to do it.
Like, dude, come on, let's do it.
It's like, all right.
And then I was like, well, should I do it by myself?
(02:08):
And him just do the recording?
I was like, no, let's just bring Joey into it.
I need new flesh in here too, as well.
Just like with the screenings I do with Micah Geary.
See it on 16 millimeter.
So it's like, all right, bring in new flesh,
bring in new people to come in.
Because I want this to be more of a collective now rather
than just one fucking guy doing this.
Yeah.
This is something that I think is important because you've
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been writing about these movies for a long time.
And just, I don't know, realistically,
I don't know how many people are reading nowadays.
I think the medium has kind of switched over to podcasting.
Yeah, everyone has a podcast.
Before it was like, everyone had a blog.
I remember you look back 10 years ago, 15,
everyone had a fucking blog.
Yeah.
Now they're all doing podcasts.
And it's like, I still do the blogging.
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And it's like, it's still there.
There's still an audience, but not as big as podcasts,
where it's like, everyone has a podcast now.
Everyone's listening to podcasts.
Yeah, yeah.
You go to work.
People are listening to a podcast.
Pretty much.
I mean, even doctors I work that I work with are talking
about podcasts.
Yeah, exactly.
That's all people are really doing here.
Yeah, everyone just wants to listen.
They don't want to read.
They'll read maybe once in a while,
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but they'll want to hear it more.
So I'm going to move to this medium now.
The blog will still be there, of course, but very sporadically,
kind of like it is now anyways.
But yeah, there'll be a podcast here and there.
We don't know.
It'll be every month, every week.
We'll see.
We'll figure it out.
We'll give it to them whenever we're ready.
Exactly.
Whenever we're ready, I think it's better.
I know people are going to be like, do it every week,
do it every week, or do it every week.
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We're going to give it to you, and we're
going to give you a good episode.
We're not just going to be like, here, here, listen to this one,
listen to this one, listen to this one.
And I think that's a good topic here,
because the first episode that we're doing here is,
in my opinion, I think it's an underspoken,
underappreciated part of not just cinema in general,
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but I guess Mexican cinema as well,
because you don't really see too much of these out there.
Yeah, like right now, there is a little bit of resurgence
with what they call Mexican popular cinema,
or cine popular with the 60s, stuff, 50s, you know,
Batwoman, luchador, El Santo stuff.
I wanted to lean more towards, you know, stuff
from the 80s, 70s, 90s.
And then today, we're going to do something very unusual
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from the 90s, something that probably people don't even
know existed.
It's Mexican porn from the 90s.
You're probably like, wait, what, porn?
I mean, there's porn everywhere around the world,
but this whole ordeal that we're going to talk about
is really unusual and very interesting too,
because I don't think a lot of people know about it.
I think even the biggest porn collectors don't even
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know about these movies either.
This is something that completely took me by surprise.
I mean, obviously you said there's porn all over the world,
but I didn't really realize that there was an actual industry
in Mexico that dealt with feature length porn in this way.
You kind of imagine the stuff you see on the internet,
the mom versus stun weird stuff that they'd be putting
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on those websites and stuff, but this is your actual movies.
Exactly, real movies with plots, loose plots,
but they have plots in them and sometimes original music.
And then the ones that we're going to talk about,
they were directed by an actual Mexican filmmaker who actually
was making real movies, dramas, action, comedies, particularly
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sex comedy.
So this is what we're going to kind of dwell into,
because the first movies was sort of sex comedy.
But yeah.
Well, I mean, I guess that's a good place to start.
Let's get into it.
I mean, who was this director?
What was his name?
His name was Angel Rodriguez Vasquez.
And he was a fairly old guy when he started
making these movies too.
He was probably like already like in his 50s or 60s,
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I believe.
And yeah, he just started making all these action movies.
He made a movie called El Latino Contra las Momias.
Stuff like that, Professores de la More,
Professors of Love.
That's what this one's called, The Porno Movie.
So yeah, just weird, crazy titles like that.
And it's like genre stuff mostly.
And then he somehow got the job to do porn, which is weird.
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Well, what I read was that he started as, or maybe not
started, but he got his big break as an assistant director
for Carlos Enrique Tabuada.
Yeah, there we go.
He started with like legendary filmmakers.
And then he spun off into his own world from there.
And that was what in the 70s he started directing his own.
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I think it was 78 was his first official credit
as a sole director.
Well, you want to get into this first porn film?
Yeah, I mean, if you want to call it that.
I mean, it's kind of like a sex comedy.
I call it a sex comedy, but it is more like, yeah,
a porno for sure, though.
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It kind of does feel like the, I think the second movie we're
going to talk about feels a little bit more like the 70s
porn with like Dung Dung and shit.
But yeah, let's talk about this first one.
What do you mean?
So the first movie that this was actually made for porn
is called as profesoras del amor.
And basically it's very much like a comedy movie.
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And then there's Lu Chan Vov, but you don't see wrestling.
So basically the movie starts with these two wrestlers.
They get called by their agent.
He's like, hey, can you guys overthrow this match?
You know, let the other team win and you guys will get paid.
And then these two guys are like, nah, we don't want to do that.
Les mandé llamar antes de la fecha en que ustedes van a
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exponer su campeonato para proponerles algo que está en
sus manos.
Si de lo que se trata es que hagamos una buena pelea,
desmane, se preocupa, señor Santini.
De eso no tengo la menor duda.
Por algo son campeones.
Si no es por eso, entonces díganos qué es lo que
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quiere proponernos.
Que se dejen ganar, muchachos.
Que se dejen ganar.
Dejarnos ganar y perder el campeonato solo porque usted no
lo pide.
No, señor Santini, eso no.
Que nos lo quiten limpiamente como nosotros lo ganamos.
We want to win.
We're training.
The agent's like, he wants him to lose.
He already got paid to do that.
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Entiendo perfectamente sus razones, muchachos.
Pero si se los pido, es para dar paso temporalmente a sus
contrincantes.
Eso nunca, señor Santini.
Primero muertos.
Disculpen.
Solo lo hice para probar la honestidad de ustedes dos.
So then he calls upon this, like, madam or something like
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that.
He's like, hey, can you get some of your girls to, like,
get these guys to not train so they don't win the match?
She's like, yeah, send them to the house and I think,
where's it?
Puerto Navarra or something like that?
Yeah, Puerto Navarra.
Tu dirás para que soy buena.
Quiero que me ayudes a vencer con tus artes a dos
campeones.
¿Quiénes son?
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Dos huesos duros de roer.
¿Cómo se llaman?
El malacara y la sombra.
¿De cómo va a ser el cheque?
Un numerito grande y seiseros.
¿Qué me dices?
Aceptado.
Salud.
Yeah, they go to this, like, big luxurious house in
Cuernavaca to train and then all of a sudden,
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they're like, hey, what's up?
I'm going to go to the house and I'm going to go to the
house and I'm going to go to the house and I'm going to go to
the house and I'm going to go to the house and I'm going to
go to the house and I'm going to go to the house and I'm going to
go to the house and Cuernavaca train and then all of a sudden
out of the blue, they're just chillin, you know, laying
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down in their bed.
The one thing I thought was hilarious is like, all right,
this is the first, quote unquote,
Mexican porn production, right?
Based in Mexico by Mexican filmmakers, producers,
directors, and they had to go with the Mexican stereotype.
Let's put fucking luchas in there.
Let's put some rancheras in there.
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Yeah, there's like musical numbers that's so random.
And then there's comedy, of course.
So you have the maid being the comedy aspect to it.
She's like this chubby lady, ranchy lady, rancher lady.
You know, she was pretty hot, man.
The funny thing is I thought there was a scene
that was gonna happen with her,
because I don't know if you remember,
there's a scene with her by the pool
and then they're both right there.
I thought they were gonna go down.
I legit thought that there was gonna be a three-way
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in the pool.
Really, I literally thought that.
Because the way it's set up, I was like,
are they gonna go on her next or what?
And then they don't.
A little disappointed that they didn't, actually,
because it set it up.
It wouldn't have been funny at all.
But obviously, she was not an actress.
I mean, to be fair, I don't know if any of these actors
knew what they were gonna get themselves into,
because I mean, I don't think you can get
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real luchalos to be in a porno for one.
Yeah, those guys did not look like luchalos.
They're probably like bottles, if anything.
Yeah, they had to have been, because they just did not.
They didn't even have the body type
of what a luchalos looks like.
They were really fit, if anything,
but they weren't muscular.
Whereas you see real luchalos are fucking big and buff.
These guys are just like fit.
Skinny and fit, that's all.
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Yeah, it was, you know, I think,
kind of like just going off of what you said.
This promoter is asking these guys
to basically drop the belt for a new tag team.
And they don't wanna do it.
So he just basically gives them to go to this house
and I guess essentially get laid
and kind of diminish their stamina
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or their strength or whatever to lose the fight.
And then their names are La Sombra and El Balacara.
And I think La Sombra was the one who was more,
because out of the two guys,
I'm sure you noticed this too,
but one of them, he almost seemed like
he didn't wanna be a part of this movie
because he couldn't even get hard.
Like he was...
Was he the pale skinned one or the...
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Yeah, I think it was Malacara who couldn't get it up.
So maybe, I don't know, maybe he didn't really realize
what he was gonna be doing
or got nervous when the camera started rolling.
Yeah, probably.
Because even when you watch it, like I said,
even though they're filming it all,
it just seems so unprofessional at times.
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That's kind of what I always say about Mexican horror.
It's like, when you watch a Mexican horror movie,
especially from those times,
it doesn't even feel like a Mexican horror movie
because they don't know what they were doing.
And I think in this case,
they don't know what they were doing either.
They knew what they were doing exactly.
Like, okay, we're gonna make a porno,
but they didn't know how to go about it, I think.
So I guess whoever they hired to do these movies,
they're probably like, okay, what do I do?
Or how am I gonna do this?
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Yeah, you could definitely tell that these are kind of
the low budget or amateur because you look at
golden age porn in America,
these are cinematic, sometimes masterpieces,
and you look at this and there's no lighting whatsoever.
Sometimes you can't even see what's happening.
It's literally just the low budget sex comedy
from that era.
In this case, it has real sex though.
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And one thing I noticed too was that,
maybe he did know a little bit about what he was doing
because some of the compositions of the sex scenes themselves,
like he was getting the right angles.
These are angles that we're familiar with
as far as it's formed.
He even got artistic a little bit like that pool scene.
Do you remember the pool scene?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There was like a pool scene where the girl's standing
right there and then the ball's hitting her.
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Yeah, well it doesn't hit her,
but it hits the hole in the pool table.
So he got a little bit artistic there, I noticed.
And then some of the sex scenes are,
even though it's just sex, but it's like,
okay, he knew what he was doing for sure, annoying.
Like he was filming this angle and it's like,
yeah, he's trying to make it look good.
But then at times you're kind of like,
okay, this is getting kind of weird.
It's a little too rough now.
But then again, it's like, okay, it's porn.
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I need to like be an open-minded person here.
Yeah, that's funny.
One of my notes that I wrote down
actually was the dream sequence at the pool
where you can see that.
Yeah.
That was definitely a standout of the movie.
Do you, now one thing, I guess there's, you know,
I don't really know anybody in this movie.
Like, do you know anybody?
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The only one I recognized was Velma Collins.
And that's because she was a dancer from back in the day.
So she used to delete these cabaret dancers,
you know, cabaret dancers, I'm sorry.
You know, she would go to night clubs and dance
or like, you know, strip clubs even.
And then all of a sudden she's just in this porno movie.
Like even in her Facebook page,
she like actually did post like a poster of it or whatever.
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And it has the lucha ring
and then there's like a random picture of girls on the inside.
And it says, sexo lucha triple X on the bottom of the title.
And yeah, she even said it herself on her Facebook page.
Like this is the first porno film in Mexico.
So yeah, so, and she does have like a fan base
from what I saw.
Like people do like her pictures a lot
and they recognize her from back in the day.
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And yeah, and then I believe she did start
in some other movies.
I don't think a lot of movies per se.
But she's familiar.
Like I recognized her immediately.
I was like, okay, this is that Velma Collins trick.
And sure enough, I'm like, wow, she actually got down.
I thought maybe it was a body double too at first,
but no, she actually did everything.
Oh wow, really?
Yeah, so that sounds like shock.
I was like, oh shit, she actually did these things.
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Oh, I guess the vessels were right, I guess.
Yeah, I think she just didn't carry the spider.
Okay.
Yeah, I guess, I don't know.
I guess coming from the cabaret area,
you're kind of used to being, you know,
stared at and hollered at.
Yeah, more than like, she probably even did real life
sex shows.
I mean, that's what they do in those things too.
So she was probably already used to that.
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And I did, there was a couple of songs in there
that I thought were really, really fucking cool.
And I looked them up because I assumed
that these were real singers.
Yeah, yeah.
And what I found was Gil Madrigal and Chui Dominguez
who were the two actors who played the two,
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I guess a gardener and-
They're like a gardener, yeah.
Like a comedy relief kind of thing too,
I know I sort of-
Yeah, definitely comedy relief,
but I guess Gil Madrigal is an actual singer.
And I did find the song where they're in the garden
when they're walking out at night
and they're kind of singing into the wind.
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I found that song on record.
Oh, on record?
On a record, yeah.
And there's a record on there.
So-
It's not just like a one off thing
where it's like, it's only in the movie.
That's cool.
Oh, I thought it was, but I spent a couple of hours
like Googling and YouTubing
and I came across song titles, I was like,
well, maybe that's the one.
And I started going through this whole disography
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and I found the song.
So it was actually kind of funny.
Yeah, so the first one is called El Péding-
Oh, no, sorry, it's Unas Preguntas.
And the second song is called Sigues Libre.
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And the final song is El Perinche,
which is the one I found on record.
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So pretty cool.
And a couple of clips right here.
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All right, so let's move into a little bit
about the classifications for these movies
and kind of how they were sent to review boards.
And you know.
So in the book by Ir Roman,
El cine pornográfico mexicano de los 90,
it states that on August 26, 1993,
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the Mexican distribution company,
Sino-Motográfica Veracruz,
asked for permission from the RTC,
which is the acronym for Dirección General de Radio,
Televisión y Sino-Motográfica,
which is like the MPAA of Mexico, basically.
So they seek permission to, you know,
get this movie a rating, Las profesoras del amor,
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and they get the big rating of D,
which is Mexican, Mexico is adults only.
And yeah, it took them a while though.
So they did this like in 80, 88,
and then the movie got released until 1993,
October 28th, 1993 to be exact.
So it took a while for them to review, you know,
some film, make sure that it's actually a full-length feature,
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not just straight porn,
because obviously they're not gonna rate a porn,
they wanna rate a film, and this is what it is,
this is a film.
And correct me if I'm wrong,
but I think I read in the book too,
that it was like the minimum point
of being a feature-length film was 60 minutes, right?
Yeah, exactly, it had to be a 60 minute feature-length film,
and of course, you know, they had to make sure
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that this was made by an actual production company as well,
because they're not gonna just rate any fucking movie
that's given to them.
So everything had to be legit,
so they had to check everything, and yeah.
And it was in screenings for how many weeks again?
42 weeks actually, yeah, so it was permitted for 42 weeks,
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and it was on for a while in theaters,
not the typical movie theaters, you know,
it was more of like those dingy little theaters
in the outskirts of cities or in downtowns.
So it wasn't like, oh, you can go to the cinemacy,
and you had to find somewhere
that would wanna show those kind of movies,
and it's those shady kind of theaters for sure.
Yeah, it was like the smaller city,
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single screen theaters that were,
and I think it was also saying in the book
that it was like they screened these at the,
like these single screen theaters
that previously showed like the soft core
international movies from like Argentina and Italy
and stuff like that, right?
And then over here in the States,
they just put them out on video,
just from these random porn labels,
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and after that, you don't know what happened to them, you know?
They kinda died out, right?
They kinda died out basically.
You try to find them on eBay or somewhere else too.
You're just like, oh, like, you can't just Google it,
or you can go to Pornhub or something.
Which, and see it.
Which when you tell me about these movies, I tried.
I Googled extensively and came up with nothing.
Even when I first found this one
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and then the next one that we're gonna talk about,
yeah, I didn't even know it existed,
I didn't even know there was this whole thing, you know,
until I got in, you know, so other people told me
about these movies, I was like, oh, shit, I have to find them.
And did you find these on eBay or did you?
So, this one, the one that I'm talking about right now,
the one we're talking about, the first one,
that's Profesora's, that one actually just found on eBay
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one day and like it took me forever to find this one.
Cause I knew it existed after I read the book,
but I never knew like I could find a copy of it.
All right, it's gonna be hard, it's gonna be a challenge.
I knew what the cover looked like though, but yeah.
Then one day I just randomly went on eBay
and I found it, it's like, oh, shit, 50 bucks.
I mean, 50 bucks is not bad at all.
And then the next one that we're about to talk about,
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which is El Despertar del Sexo,
that one actually, this guy, I hope he's listening
or he will listen, his name's Juan, he's from Inglewood,
no, no, no, I'm sorry, Linwood.
He has, he used to own a video store in Linwood
and he had a bunch of videos.
And then of course he was also a very big fan
of Mexican cinema, porn, and then he told me
about Despertar del Sexo.
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I was like, oh, and then he kind of told me, yeah,
I think it's a real porn film,
but it's also a filming feature.
And he had a second copy, I was like, yeah,
let me buy it off you.
He's like, okay, yeah, take it.
So I bought it off him and yeah, that's how it started.
I know other people that have the other two,
but I have yet not to see those
because there's a total of four
from this pornography thing that we're talking about.
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But right now we're only with two.
Hopefully eventually we find the other ones
to complete this whole trilogy or whatever.
Yeah, cause I gotta say the profesores de amor is,
it's good.
I'm not gonna say that it's not good.
You know, there's definitely some shortcomings in there.
The actors are really that great.
There's no lighting whatsoever in these movies.
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Some of the sex scenes you can't even tell
what's actually happening.
And it's not even cause of the video,
it's just, that's how they filmed it.
It's just no lighting at all really.
Or no professional lighting that is.
Yeah, there's nothing.
It's hard to tell something.
I think there was a, I think it was like the second
or third scene, but it was so dark.
You couldn't even see when the guy was actually
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penetrating or anything.
But there was effort.
That was the thing.
It's like, they obviously were kind of knowing
what they were doing and then kind of not.
But overall the turnout was like, yeah, you know,
it's interesting to watch, you know?
Like if you did cut out the sex scenes,
like the actual sex scenes,
you would be like a sex comedy basically.
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah, and that's kind of what he was already doing
at the time, I'm gonna go to Rodriguez Vasquez.
Like there's one called Las Profes,
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Nena Salamot or something like that.
I forget what it's called, but other sex comedy
similar in that vein where it's just like,
these guys just get themselves involved with these girls.
And then, you know, from there,
they're just doing these raunchy things.
And then hijinks from there.
And then speaking of hijinks, the ending,
we can't leave out the ending of the movie.
Yeah.
Yeah, so the hijinks is like the ending of the movie here.
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It's like the promoter agent or whatever.
He comes to the house and he's just bombarded
with these two girls and they just start going at it with him.
He basically gets with both of them
and they're just on top of him.
Mouth to dick and shit.
It's so crazy.
Because why not, right?
He's the one that sent them in the first place.
Yeah, so he gets to have both of them.
But it's like he didn't want to, he just didn't expect it.
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And then you could tell this guy was not an actor either.
Like he's not even hard after.
And I think it was Malacara that didn't.
Yeah, that was the other guy.
Yeah, the promoter for her.
You could tell right away he was not even into this.
He was just naked.
So yeah, this is how it is.
It's just, it plays on like a sex comedy,
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hijinks, unexpected sex scenes,
and just like little quirks here and there with music
and like sketches or whatever, comedy sketches.
Yeah, one thing I found interesting,
well, I don't want to say interesting,
but because it kind of is kind of a played out thing
in Mexican movies of the time where they always had
a gay character as well, who was kind of like
the, you're not laughing with him, you're laughing at him.
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You're laughing at him, yeah, that was due to AO.
Which was, I don't know, unnecessary, but you know.
Yeah, they have to throw that in there just to like,
you know, make it seem like,
hey, this is a movie for grownups or something.
Yeah, yeah.
Like these are people that are out there.
Okay, well, why don't we switch gears
and go over to the second of the two movies
that we're discussing, which is El Despecto de El Sexo,
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which in my opinion was the better of the two movies.
Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah, definitely the better one.
More of a story to it too.
Yeah, I think, so this one basically is about a,
I think he's college age, right?
Is he college or maybe like a senior in high school?
He's probably like a senior in high school, yeah.
His name is Manolo.
Yeah, Manolo, and he's just a sex crazed kid who,
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you know, he's a virgin of course,
and we end up learning that he has some kind of
heart condition and he can't have sex otherwise
he's gonna die.
And so the whole movie is this dude trying to,
trying to have sex but knowing that he's gonna die.
And then he's always fantasizing, that's the funny part.
The whole movie is mostly him fantasizing.
So he's either thinking about it,
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of it's somebody or he's thinking about it when he's seen.
Like he's like, he overhears like his brother
and his girlfriend doing it.
And he's like jerking off to his brother.
Yeah, he's like really into the end,
and he's like dreaming about himself with the maid
cause there's a maid living in the house,
who's attractive by the way.
Yeah, I will say her name is Lolita for what?
Yeah, Lolita, yeah.
And she was absolutely gorgeous.
Yeah.
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And he's basically just fantasizing about her.
He fantasizes about her all the time.
But she also is too anyway too, that's the funny part.
So she's also kind of like similar in that nature with him.
So she's also doing her own fantasies
and like thinking about him or she also overhears
the brother.
So yeah, it's funny how those two are like,
yeah it's like they're meant for each other basically.
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And then eventually they do hook up
and then should we spoil it or no?
What do you think?
I mean why not?
People aren't gonna watch this movie anyway, right?
It's gonna be impossible for him to finally.
Yeah, that's true.
So heart condition, sex fantasies come true finally
for Manolo when he finally hooks up with Lolita.
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A wonderful shower scene,
or it starts off with a shower scene.
Yeah, it starts off with a shower scene.
And then as the movie goes on, finally they meet together.
Well he doesn't even meet with it, he forces himself.
Yeah, that's what I'm gonna say.
He kinda, he starts with a rape.
He pretty much is just gonna rape her
and you're just like oh shit.
But then she seems to enjoy it, like she just gets into it.
And then finally, you know they do it.
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She's satisfied, he's satisfied.
And then all of a sudden he croaks.
Talk about post. Literally right after he finishes,
he just dies and then she's like Manolo, Manolo.
And that's it, that's the end.
It's post-nut clarity times what that was.
Basically yeah, it's so funny.
Dude finishes and instantly dies,
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has a heart attack and just dies.
Yeah, that's crazy.
And then the credits just roll.
And she's like what the fuck, what just happened here?
And then she's like what the fuck, what just happened here?
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Manolo.
It's dead!
Manolo is dead!
He's dead!
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Oh my god!
The funny thing is the third movie, I mean I haven't seen it from what I've heard, Traficantus of Sex or Death After Sex.
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Yeah, yeah.
It's like, what were they trying to say? Like, are we not supposed to enjoy this?
I mean it's pop, so I mean you know, Catholicism runs rampant in Mexico, so I wouldn't be surprised.
Something's going on.
The guilt of sex killed these teenage boys.
That's so weird, man. I was just shocked when I saw it and I was like, wait, what?
It's the, even just thinking about it, it's like, oh man, I can't believe that happened in that movie.
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But yeah, that was interesting though.
So, yeah.
I will say though, in this one, like, you can actually see that there was, because this one is, is that a year after?
Or year or two after?
I believe it was like two years after, yeah. So basically those four, because there's four all together, they filmed them one after the other.
And then this one is the second one, if I recall.
And you can see an obvious quality jump in this movie compared to Professor Asid's.
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A little bit of a more budget. They were focusing on the cinematography, I think, too.
Because they look like they shot it more better too.
Oh, absolutely. I mean the setup for the scenes is a whole lot better.
There's an actual story that goes along with this, kind of like a subplot to this.
And you know, you can't go without saying that the lighting in this one is a lot better.
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Kind of like a sex comedy. This is more of a erotic thriller, I would kind of say, sort of, in a way, or erotic drama.
Yeah, I was going to say more of like an erotic drama, like a 90s drama.
So they were definitely going for that vibe for sure with this one.
But obviously, they were still making porn.
You do see a lot of sex scenes. And then there's one scene where he's fantasizing.
He's at the beach with this girl that he saw from the magazine.
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He's like eating a route or whatever. Yeah, that scene was funny.
So there's a lot of, yeah, obviously a lot of sex scenes in this movie.
But they're very testfully done.
Whereas the other movie was just kind of like, oh, let's just do this.
This one is like, okay, we're going to have him fantasize that he's at the beach.
He's doing this with her.
So I think they were more focused this time around.
Whereas the other one, they were kind of like, oh, what do we do?
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So I mean, I guess it's safe to assume that with this one,
they were like, they knew exactly what they were going to do.
Whereas the first one, the profesoras, they were just like, let's just get this porno in.
Yeah.
Get it out there. Just make some money.
And this one is like an actual.
Yeah, they really wanted to tell a story.
Yeah, then just show sex.
And, you know, the same thing kind of goes with this, right?
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So it's a Mexican production, but, you know,
it also has musical numbers in here.
There's like, there's what three or four pretty decent songs, I would say.
Yeah. And then there's one where they're like at the party, right? I think.
Yeah.
And it's like a, I don't know what kind of music that would be like a grupero kind of thing.
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
And once again, there's another, there's a gay character in this movie.
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Oh yeah. When they go to the brothel.
Yeah.
He's just in there randomly.
It's, you know, he never comes out again, by the way.
He's just there once and then that's it for comedy relief.
Basically, that's just about to say it's literally the exact same as most of those movies at the time.
You're laughing at the gay character, not laughing with the gay character, which is unfortunate,
but, you know, it's just, it is what it is, right?
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It's part of the, part of the cinema of the time.
But yeah, so what did you think of this one?
Obviously, obviously you liked it.
I, this was probably the one you could recommend to everybody.
Yes. If I was going to recommend one of the two, it's definitely going to be this one.
For sure.
I don't know if I'd say I loved it, but I definitely liked it a whole lot more than Professor of the Dead of the Moon.
Definitely more intriguing for sure.
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You know, it just kind of has, like you said, it has like this like 90s erotic thriller drama vibe to it that kind of creepiness,
because you're kind of going through this guy's like fantasies, right?
Yeah, and the music too, that's it.
Like the music's so weird, like they clearly were not thinking, I don't even think it's like a real score.
I think they just found like some music to play along and then that's it.
I think there's an actual end credit to it though, like a music credit to somebody,
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which I should have wrote down on my nose when I was rewatching it,
but I recall seeing that there was an actual person credited for like incidental music.
It still went with the movie though.
It's like really eerie, depressing piano.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's weird.
I mean, yeah.
And then especially when the movie ends, you're just like, whoa.
The music just adds more of a eerie vibe to your like, oh shit.
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But yeah, I really like this one more.
Obviously, yeah, you know, obviously you liked it more too.
But yeah, this would probably be the one to recommend.
And then if you are going to be able to watch all these, it would probably be, I would go with this one first.
Yeah, I would agree.
I think this one has more of a, I don't want to say more relatable because that seems a little weird.
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But like the, yeah, I know what you mean, like the whole fantasizing, especially when you're young, you know.
Yeah.
You just think about, that's all you're going to think about obviously.
When you're a guy, that's all you want.
You think about that a lot.
And like you said earlier, it goes both ways, right?
Because Lolita is thinking about the same thing.
And then the same thing, you have the female aspect to it too.
She's thinking about it too.
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And she's about the same age as him too.
So there's like an adolescent kind of thing going on there maybe, like late adolescent thing, you know, where they're just thinking about it.
They're focusing on that.
Growing up, you know, puberty sucks.
Kind of thing, I don't know.
Yeah.
Discovering of sex.
And that's literally what the movie is called.
Exactly.
That's called sexual awakening.
Yeah.
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So yeah, I mean, yeah, I like that.
I mean, I like it a lot for what it is, you know.
Definitely the one to see.
And if you ever find it, yeah, watch the hell out of it and you're going to like it.
If someone can ever find it.
If you can find it.
And it's again, even I didn't even really existed until the homie Juan told me about it.
Shout out to Juan.
I don't know you, Juan, but shout out to Juan.
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Yeah, Juan from Linwood.
Linwood up to no good.
Close to my hood actually.
So he's not too far from me.
I missed that guy.
I need to hit him up again actually.
I think after this podcast, I'm going to mess with him.
Be like, Hey, I just covered the movie you told me about.
And if you haven't heard the copy, Juan, hit your boy out because I'll definitely.
He actually has a poster.
Oh, he has a poster too.
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So from the video store, he has the actual poster from the cover.
It's so fucking awesome.
I remember telling him to sell it to me.
He's like, no, I'm not selling it.
If I see my collection, I'm not selling it.
He's like, maybe one day I'll give it to you.
But no, not right now.
I remember him telling me that I remember when he pulled it out and I was like, let me take
a picture and I did a picture and you can see his hands right there.
But yeah, well, that kind of leads up a good point because hopefully, you know, one of
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these companies like vinegar syndrome or Severin or whoever would kind of take up an
interest, probably more vinegar since they already released hardcore stuff, but would
take an interest in these movies and hopefully try to find rights and kind of restore them
and bring them back to life because there is merit to these movies, right?
So they're not just pornos.
There's a little bit of something to say and I think people would enjoy it.
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Yeah.
Basically, they're part of like Mexican film history of the 90s, kind of like in the book
for a saying.
That's literally the name of the book, Sine por la Nafica o Mejana de los Noventa, the
Iromán, the author saying, you know, these movies existed.
I'm glad he wrote this book too because I probably would have never known.
Other people probably would have never known these movies existed, you know.
Oh, absolutely.
They would have been lost over time, but really he thought about it and put it in a book.
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And he put a lot of work into it too.
You're reading the book, you know, seeing that he cited so many different people going
into kind of the history through European movies that made their way to Mexico and stuff like
that.
There's a lot of intertwining here, but I think with how little Mexican cinema has been kind
of put onto a pedestal compared to European cinema or Asian cinema, like there's definitely
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a need for it.
And you can't talk about Mexican cinema without talking about porn.
Same thing as the United States, right?
You can't talk about, you know, the boom of the 70s and independence without talking
about the rise of pornography.
So hopefully someone gets on board and kind of puts these out because they're...
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I'm sure there's print somewhere.
If it's not in the Cinetecca or Filmteca una, I'm sure somebody has prints.
If not print, maybe a video master, at least a video master, I hope.
You think the Cinetecca would have a print?
They might, or they might be too embarrassed to admit it.
It's hiding somewhere.
Like even like them having intrapidus punks, for example, like I would have never imagined
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them having it, but they did, and that's where the restorations came from.
Well you would hope that they would because like I said, it's important.
It may not be everyone's favorite genre, but it's part of the history in and of itself.
So yeah, I'm sure one of these archives have it.
If not an archive, maybe a collector.
If not a collector, I'm sure there's some kind of video master somewhere.
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There's some weird fool.
There's gotta be some material, something.
I mean, at least I know I have the 2VHS.
There it is.
They can remaster it off the VHL and fix it up.
AI, what is it, the AI restoration that they do?
I don't know.
I mean, I'm not saying Vinnigar does that, but like other companies do.
Someone's out there is doing it.
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Maybe up in the Lager is doing it.
But yeah, so that's what I'm saying.
People need to see these.
It's important.
Film wise, history wise, Mexican cinema wise.
So let's pray to the good Lord or Satan or whoever.
These movies come to light and hopefully this podcast that you're listening to brings more
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interest to it as well.
That's the hope too.
We hope that, I know we kind of didn't go too much into detail, but that's on purpose.
We don't want to go scene by scene and kind of give you guys a play by play.
We wanted to let you know that these movies exist, what they're about, what you're going
to see, how it happened.
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And draw, like you said, draw a little bit of interest into it and let you guys go out
there and dig for them.
So that's the first episode.
I didn't want to just talk about just some random Mexican movie or a horror movie.
I wanted to go into something very deep and something so forgotten or unknown and it's
cine por un grafico mexicano de los 90.
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And I guess it's kind of good that we didn't go too deep into it, right?
Because it's not like there's a lot of information out there.
Everything we're talking about today is based off a 70 page book.
So that's literally all there is written about this anywhere.
At least to my knowledge, I'm sure to your knowledge.
Yeah, this is it.
This book, by the way, is super rare.
And thank you, Hector, from Mexico for giving me this book.
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Hector, if you're listening, give me your address.
I could send you those big boxes of things I have for you for giving me this book.
Hector.
Hector Contraros.
But yeah, he's the one that gave me the book.
And so I guess moving forward, we have a lot of things in store for the podcast.
Oh yeah.
Before we let you guys go from whatever you're all doing while listening, our next episode
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will cover a Mario Almaa movie and a Valentino Jio movie.
One with both of them, actually.
Everyone's favorites, right?
Yeah.
You can't be Mexican of a certain age and not know who Mario Almaa is or Valentino Jio.
And for those who don't know, they're probably the biggest action stars of the 70s, 80s,
and 90s.
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And people kind of have forgotten about them, but with Trashmacks and other people that
have been talking with me, they're still remembered.
They're still known.
And with this platform, especially with the podcasts, we're going to give them a...
She had some more light on them.
Yeah, she had more light on these guys because these guys deserve the world.
They're fucking...
I mean, if you haven't seen one, which is crazy because you have screened these before,
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but if you haven't seen them, these fucking movies are amazing.
Yeah, and these actors are just so great.
They're not bad actors.
They're not exaggerated actors.
Well, maybe they exaggerate some things, but they're good exaggerators.
They give them as Charles Bronson.
They give them as, I don't know, Steven Seagal or whatever.
No, not Steven Seagal.
Charles Bronson.
Well, Charles Bronson.
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There we go.
Charles Bronson.
For sure Charles Bronson, yeah.
So yeah, big action stars from back in the day, very important actors too.
So we'll kind of delve into their careers as well.
But yeah, so that'll be the next episode.
It'll be about two legendary actors from Mexico that I really, really, really adore
and really respect.
And I hope that episode also brings more light into their work and Mexican cinema in general,
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genre cinema.
So yeah, I think that's it, right?
Yeah, absolutely.
Thanks for listening and Joey, you got anything else?
Yeah, no, it's just thanks for listening.
It's trying to keep it as brief as possible with as much information as we can, short
and concise.
But as Armando said, we got Valentin Trujillo, we got Mario Almala coming up.
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We got a lot of things in store.
So please spread the word.
And by the way, yesterday will be a Lucha episode.
We won't say yeah, but we will, don't worry.
I know people are probably like, are you going to talk about Lucha?
They're like, yes, we will.
We can do a podcast about Mexican movies and not talk about Lucha.
Exactly, that's another thing.
They're coming, but it's not going to be what you expect.
Maybe, maybe what you expect, but it's not the two famous.
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Not the obvious.
That's the thing with Trashmix, with the blog.
It's always been like, I don't want to make it the obvious stuff.
I want it to be like the cool shit.
I mean, at least I believe it's cool shit.
And then the rare stuff as well.
So the podcast will be a lot of the cool stuff, the rare stuff, a little bit of the
obvious and then things that you think are obvious, but not exactly.
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Just like with this Lucha episode, it's going to be not too obvious.
It's going to be like, whoa, okay, this is different.
He's legendary, but he's not, at some rate, did not talk to us as much.
Yeah, it's not as unto.
Don't start saying, oh, you're doing this and that.
Not yet, not yet, not yet.
Another wrestler.
But yeah, we'll shed into that later on.
But yeah.
And yeah, if you guys have any questions or concerns or suggestions, give us a comment
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on Instagram, message on Instagram, or what's the email again?
Yeah, we have a set up an email at trashmaxpodcast.gmail.com.
So hit us up there too, you know, with those lines are open.
Hit us up on Instagram.
That's your Trashmix.
Trashmix.
I'm Cheta Brown.
Cheta Brown.
And give us a listen in all the podcast platforms, right?
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Or which ones are we not going to be on?
Yeah, we'll be on all.
It'll be listed on all the, anywhere you listen to podcasts, it'll be on there.
Not MySpace music, girl.
MySpace music.
Do you see this?
There used to be another one.
I forgot.
It's an old one.
We'll be on Tidal.
I don't think Tidal does podcasts.
I don't even know.
We'll be on all of them, the ones that you listen to.
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Yeah.
We'll be on Spotify, Apple, all that good stuff.
Spread the word.
I hope you enjoyed the episode.
Hit us up with any type of comments or feedback, suggestions from future episodes.
And have a go happy digging, trying to find these points.
Yeah.
Thanks for listening guys.
And don't die when you're about to come.
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Post not clarity.
Post not clarity.
It is a real thing.
Yeah.
We'll be on Tidal.
I'm going to be on Tidal.
I'm going to be on Tidal.
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I'm going to be on Tidal.
I'm going to be on Tidal.
I'm going to be on Tidal.
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I'm going to be on Tidal.
Good evening, good morning, good night, or whatever.
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This is the first episode of the Trash Mix podcast.
I am your host, Armando Hernandez.
I am the founder of Trash Mix, a blog and film programming
from Southern California with my co-host.
My name is Joey Diaz.
I'm based out of LA, part of the rendezvous
collectives that some of you may or may not know.
But yeah, man, we're here doing the inaugural episode
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of the Trash Mix podcast.
It's been a long time.
I've been begging you to do it for a while.
Yeah, Joey's been like, you need to do it.
Other people have been telling me too.
And they're like, yeah.
And then they'll tell me, like, let's do it.
And I'm like, OK.
And then I'll tell them, well, let's do it.
And then they never get back to me.
Joey's been the only one that's been telling me to do it.
Like, dude, come on, let's do it.
It's like, all right.
And then I was like, well, should I do it by myself?
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And him just do the recording?
I was like, no, let's just bring Joey into it.
I need new flesh in here too, as well.
Just like with the screenings I do with Micah Geary.
See it on 16 millimeter.
So it's like, all right, bring in new flesh,
bring in new people to come in.
Because I want this to be more of a collective now rather
than just one fucking guy doing this.
Yeah.
This is something that I think is important because you've
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been writing about these movies for a long time.
And just, I don't know, realistically,
I don't know how many people are reading nowadays.
I think the medium has kind of switched over to podcasting.
Yeah, everyone has a podcast.
Before it was like, everyone had a blog.
I remember you look back 10 years ago, 15,
everyone had a fucking blog.
Yeah.
Now they're all doing podcasts.
And it's like, I still do the blogging.
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And it's like, it's still there.
There's still an audience, but not as big as podcasts,
where it's like, everyone has a podcast now.
Everyone's listening to podcasts.
Yeah, yeah.
You go to work.
People are listening to a podcast.
Pretty much.
I mean, even doctors I work that I work with are talking
about podcasts.
Yeah, exactly.
That's all people are really doing here.
Yeah, everyone just wants to listen.
They don't want to read.
They'll read maybe once in a while,
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but they'll want to hear it more.
So I'm going to move to this medium now.
The blog will still be there, of course, but very sporadically,
kind of like it is now anyways.
But yeah, there'll be a podcast here and there.
We don't know.
It'll be every month, every week.
We'll see.
We'll figure it out.
We'll give it to them whenever we're ready.
Exactly.
Whenever we're ready, I think it's better.
I know people are going to be like, do it every week,
do it every week, or do it every week.
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We're going to give it to you, and we're
going to give you a good episode.
We're not just going to be like, here, here, listen to this one,
listen to this one, listen to this one.
And I think that's a good topic here,
because the first episode that we're doing here is,
in my opinion, I think it's an underspoken,
underappreciated part of not just cinema in general,
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but I guess Mexican cinema as well,
because you don't really see too much of these out there.
Yeah, like right now, there is a little bit of resurgence
with what they call Mexican popular cinema,
or cine popular with the 60s, stuff, 50s, you know,
Batwoman, luchador, El Santo stuff.
I wanted to lean more towards, you know, stuff
from the 80s, 70s, 90s.
And then today, we're going to do something very unusual
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from the 90s, something that probably people don't even
know existed.
It's Mexican porn from the 90s.
You're probably like, wait, what, porn?
I mean, there's porn everywhere around the world,
but this whole ordeal that we're going to talk about
is really unusual and very interesting too,
because I don't think a lot of people know about it.
I think even the biggest porn collectors don't even
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know about these movies either.
This is something that completely took me by surprise.
I mean, obviously you said there's porn all over the world,
but I didn't really realize that there was an actual industry
in Mexico that dealt with feature length porn in this way.
You kind of imagine the stuff you see on the internet,
the mom versus stun weird stuff that they'd be putting
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on those websites and stuff, but this is your actual movies.
Exactly, real movies with plots, loose plots,
but they have plots in them and sometimes original music.
And then the ones that we're going to talk about,
they were directed by an actual Mexican filmmaker who actually
was making real movies, dramas, action, comedies, particularly
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sex comedy.
So this is what we're going to kind of dwell into,
because the first movies was sort of sex comedy.
But yeah.
Well, I mean, I guess that's a good place to start.
Let's get into it.
I mean, who was this director?
What was his name?
His name was Angel Rodriguez Vasquez.
And he was a fairly old guy when he started
making these movies too.
He was probably like already like in his 50s or 60s,
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I believe.
And yeah, he just started making all these action movies.
He made a movie called El Latino Contra las Momias.
Stuff like that, Professores de la More,
Professors of Love.
That's what this one's called, The Porno Movie.
So yeah, just weird, crazy titles like that.
And it's like genre stuff mostly.
And then he somehow got the job to do porn, which is weird.
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Well, what I read was that he started as, or maybe not
started, but he got his big break as an assistant director
for Carlos Enrique Tabuada.
Yeah, there we go.
He started with like legendary filmmakers.
And then he spun off into his own world from there.
And that was what in the 70s he started directing his own.
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I think it was 78 was his first official credit
as a sole director.
Well, you want to get into this first porn film?
Yeah, I mean, if you want to call it that.
I mean, it's kind of like a sex comedy.
I call it a sex comedy, but it is more like, yeah,
a porno for sure, though.
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It kind of does feel like the, I think the second movie we're
going to talk about feels a little bit more like the 70s
porn with like Dung Dung and shit.
But yeah, let's talk about this first one.
What do you mean?
So the first movie that this was actually made for porn
is called as profesoras del amor.
And basically it's very much like a comedy movie.
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And then there's Lu Chan Vov, but you don't see wrestling.
So basically the movie starts with these two wrestlers.
They get called by their agent.
He's like, hey, can you guys overthrow this match?
You know, let the other team win and you guys will get paid.
And then these two guys are like, nah, we don't want to do that.
Les mandé llamar antes de la fecha en que ustedes van a
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exponer su campeonato para proponerles algo que está en
sus manos.
Si de lo que se trata es que hagamos una buena pelea,
desmane, se preocupa, señor Santini.
De eso no tengo la menor duda.
Por algo son campeones.
Si no es por eso, entonces díganos qué es lo que
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quiere proponernos.
Que se dejen ganar, muchachos.
Que se dejen ganar.
Dejarnos ganar y perder el campeonato solo porque usted no
lo pide.
No, señor Santini, eso no.
Que nos lo quiten limpiamente como nosotros lo ganamos.
We want to win.
We're training.
The agent's like, he wants him to lose.
He already got paid to do that.
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Entiendo perfectamente sus razones, muchachos.
Pero si se los pido, es para dar paso temporalmente a sus
contrincantes.
Eso nunca, señor Santini.
Primero muertos.
Disculpen.
Solo lo hice para probar la honestidad de ustedes dos.
So then he calls upon this, like, madam or something like
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that.
He's like, hey, can you get some of your girls to, like,
get these guys to not train so they don't win the match?
She's like, yeah, send them to the house and I think,
where's it?
Puerto Navarra or something like that?
Yeah, Puerto Navarra.
Tu dirás para que soy buena.
Quiero que me ayudes a vencer con tus artes a dos
campeones.
¿Quiénes son?
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Dos huesos duros de roer.
¿Cómo se llaman?
El malacara y la sombra.
¿De cómo va a ser el cheque?
Un numerito grande y seiseros.
¿Qué me dices?
Aceptado.
Salud.
Yeah, they go to this, like, big luxurious house in
Cuernavaca to train and then all of a sudden,
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they're like, hey, what's up?
I'm going to go to the house and I'm going to go to the
house and I'm going to go to the house and I'm going to go to
the house and I'm going to go to the house and I'm going to
go to the house and I'm going to go to the house and I'm going to
go to the house and Cuernavaca train and then all of a sudden
out of the blue, they're just chillin, you know, laying
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down in their bed.
The one thing I thought was hilarious is like, all right,
this is the first, quote unquote,
Mexican porn production, right?
Based in Mexico by Mexican filmmakers, producers,
directors, and they had to go with the Mexican stereotype.
Let's put fucking luchas in there.
Let's put some rancheras in there.
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Yeah, there's like musical numbers that's so random.
And then there's comedy, of course.
So you have the maid being the comedy aspect to it.
She's like this chubby lady, ranchy lady, rancher lady.
You know, she was pretty hot, man.
The funny thing is I thought there was a scene
that was gonna happen with her,
because I don't know if you remember,
there's a scene with her by the pool
and then they're both right there.
I thought they were gonna go down.
I legit thought that there was gonna be a three-way
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in the pool.
Really, I literally thought that.
Because the way it's set up, I was like,
are they gonna go on her next or what?
And then they don't.
A little disappointed that they didn't, actually,
because it set it up.
It wouldn't have been funny at all.
But obviously, she was not an actress.
I mean, to be fair, I don't know if any of these actors
knew what they were gonna get themselves into,
because I mean, I don't think you can get
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real luchalos to be in a porno for one.
Yeah, those guys did not look like luchalos.
They're probably like bottles, if anything.
Yeah, they had to have been, because they just did not.
They didn't even have the body type
of what a luchalos looks like.
They were really fit, if anything,
but they weren't muscular.
Whereas you see real luchalos are fucking big and buff.
These guys are just like fit.
Skinny and fit, that's all.
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Yeah, it was, you know, I think,
kind of like just going off of what you said.
This promoter is asking these guys
to basically drop the belt for a new tag team.
And they don't wanna do it.
So he just basically gives them to go to this house
and I guess essentially get laid
and kind of diminish their stamina
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or their strength or whatever to lose the fight.
And then their names are La Sombra and El Balacara.
And I think La Sombra was the one who was more,
because out of the two guys,
I'm sure you noticed this too,
but one of them, he almost seemed like
he didn't wanna be a part of this movie
because he couldn't even get hard.
Like he was...
Was he the pale skinned one or the...
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Yeah, I think it was Malacara who couldn't get it up.
So maybe, I don't know, maybe he didn't really realize
what he was gonna be doing
or got nervous when the camera started rolling.
Yeah, probably.
Because even when you watch it, like I said,
even though they're filming it all,
it just seems so unprofessional at times.
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That's kind of what I always say about Mexican horror.
It's like, when you watch a Mexican horror movie,
especially from those times,
it doesn't even feel like a Mexican horror movie
because they don't know what they were doing.
And I think in this case,
they don't know what they were doing either.
They knew what they were doing exactly.
Like, okay, we're gonna make a porno,
but they didn't know how to go about it, I think.
So I guess whoever they hired to do these movies,
they're probably like, okay, what do I do?
Or how am I gonna do this?
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Yeah, you could definitely tell that these are kind of
the low budget or amateur because you look at
golden age porn in America,
these are cinematic, sometimes masterpieces,
and you look at this and there's no lighting whatsoever.
Sometimes you can't even see what's happening.
It's literally just the low budget sex comedy
from that era.
In this case, it has real sex though.
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And one thing I noticed too was that,
maybe he did know a little bit about what he was doing
because some of the compositions of the sex scenes themselves,
like he was getting the right angles.
These are angles that we're familiar with
as far as it's formed.
He even got artistic a little bit like that pool scene.
Do you remember the pool scene?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There was like a pool scene where the girl's standing
right there and then the ball's hitting her.
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Yeah, well it doesn't hit her,
but it hits the hole in the pool table.
So he got a little bit artistic there, I noticed.
And then some of the sex scenes are,
even though it's just sex, but it's like,
okay, he knew what he was doing for sure, annoying.
Like he was filming this angle and it's like,
yeah, he's trying to make it look good.
But then at times you're kind of like,
okay, this is getting kind of weird.
It's a little too rough now.
But then again, it's like, okay, it's porn.
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I need to like be an open-minded person here.
Yeah, that's funny.
One of my notes that I wrote down
actually was the dream sequence at the pool
where you can see that.
Yeah.
That was definitely a standout of the movie.
Do you, now one thing, I guess there's, you know,
I don't really know anybody in this movie.
Like, do you know anybody?
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The only one I recognized was Velma Collins.
And that's because she was a dancer from back in the day.
So she used to delete these cabaret dancers,
you know, cabaret dancers, I'm sorry.
You know, she would go to night clubs and dance
or like, you know, strip clubs even.
And then all of a sudden she's just in this porno movie.
Like even in her Facebook page,
she like actually did post like a poster of it or whatever.
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And it has the lucha ring
and then there's like a random picture of girls on the inside.
And it says, sexo lucha triple X on the bottom of the title.
And yeah, she even said it herself on her Facebook page.
Like this is the first porno film in Mexico.
So yeah, so, and she does have like a fan base
from what I saw.
Like people do like her pictures a lot
and they recognize her from back in the day.
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And yeah, and then I believe she did start
in some other movies.
I don't think a lot of movies per se.
But she's familiar.
Like I recognized her immediately.
I was like, okay, this is that Velma Collins trick.
And sure enough, I'm like, wow, she actually got down.
I thought maybe it was a body double too at first,
but no, she actually did everything.
Oh wow, really?
Yeah, so that sounds like shock.
I was like, oh shit, she actually did these things.
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Oh, I guess the vessels were right, I guess.
Yeah, I think she just didn't carry the spider.
Okay.
Yeah, I guess, I don't know.
I guess coming from the cabaret area,
you're kind of used to being, you know,
stared at and hollered at.
Yeah, more than like, she probably even did real life
sex shows.
I mean, that's what they do in those things too.
So she was probably already used to that.
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And I did, there was a couple of songs in there
that I thought were really, really fucking cool.
And I looked them up because I assumed
that these were real singers.
Yeah, yeah.
And what I found was Gil Madrigal and Chui Dominguez
who were the two actors who played the two,
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I guess a gardener and-
They're like a gardener, yeah.
Like a comedy relief kind of thing too,
I know I sort of-
Yeah, definitely comedy relief,
but I guess Gil Madrigal is an actual singer.
And I did find the song where they're in the garden
when they're walking out at night
and they're kind of singing into the wind.
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I found that song on record.
Oh, on record?
On a record, yeah.
And there's a record on there.
So-
It's not just like a one off thing
where it's like, it's only in the movie.
That's cool.
Oh, I thought it was, but I spent a couple of hours
like Googling and YouTubing
and I came across song titles, I was like,
well, maybe that's the one.
And I started going through this whole disography
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and I found the song.
So it was actually kind of funny.
Yeah, so the first one is called El Péding-
Oh, no, sorry, it's Unas Preguntas.
And the second song is called Sigues Libre.
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And the final song is El Perinche,
which is the one I found on record.
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So pretty cool.
And a couple of clips right here.
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All right, so let's move into a little bit
about the classifications for these movies
and kind of how they were sent to review boards.
And you know.
So in the book by Ir Roman,
El cine pornográfico mexicano de los 90,
it states that on August 26, 1993,
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the Mexican distribution company,
Sino-Motográfica Veracruz,
asked for permission from the RTC,
which is the acronym for Dirección General de Radio,
Televisión y Sino-Motográfica,
which is like the MPAA of Mexico, basically.
So they seek permission to, you know,
get this movie a rating, Las profesoras del amor,
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and they get the big rating of D,
which is Mexican, Mexico is adults only.
And yeah, it took them a while though.
So they did this like in 80, 88,
and then the movie got released until 1993,
October 28th, 1993 to be exact.
So it took a while for them to review, you know,
some film, make sure that it's actually a full-length feature,
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not just straight porn,
because obviously they're not gonna rate a porn,
they wanna rate a film, and this is what it is,
this is a film.
And correct me if I'm wrong,
but I think I read in the book too,
that it was like the minimum point
of being a feature-length film was 60 minutes, right?
Yeah, exactly, it had to be a 60 minute feature-length film,
and of course, you know, they had to make sure
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that this was made by an actual production company as well,
because they're not gonna just rate any fucking movie
that's given to them.
So everything had to be legit,
so they had to check everything, and yeah.
And it was in screenings for how many weeks again?
42 weeks actually, yeah, so it was permitted for 42 weeks,
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and it was on for a while in theaters,
not the typical movie theaters, you know,
it was more of like those dingy little theaters
in the outskirts of cities or in downtowns.
So it wasn't like, oh, you can go to the cinemacy,
and you had to find somewhere
that would wanna show those kind of movies,
and it's those shady kind of theaters for sure.
Yeah, it was like the smaller city,
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single screen theaters that were,
and I think it was also saying in the book
that it was like they screened these at the,
like these single screen theaters
that previously showed like the soft core
international movies from like Argentina and Italy
and stuff like that, right?
And then over here in the States,
they just put them out on video,
just from these random porn labels,
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and after that, you don't know what happened to them, you know?
They kinda died out, right?
They kinda died out basically.
You try to find them on eBay or somewhere else too.
You're just like, oh, like, you can't just Google it,
or you can go to Pornhub or something.
Which, and see it.
Which when you tell me about these movies, I tried.
I Googled extensively and came up with nothing.
Even when I first found this one
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and then the next one that we're gonna talk about,
yeah, I didn't even know it existed,
I didn't even know there was this whole thing, you know,
until I got in, you know, so other people told me
about these movies, I was like, oh, shit, I have to find them.
And did you find these on eBay or did you?
So, this one, the one that I'm talking about right now,
the one we're talking about, the first one,
that's Profesora's, that one actually just found on eBay
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one day and like it took me forever to find this one.
Cause I knew it existed after I read the book,
but I never knew like I could find a copy of it.
All right, it's gonna be hard, it's gonna be a challenge.
I knew what the cover looked like though, but yeah.
Then one day I just randomly went on eBay
and I found it, it's like, oh, shit, 50 bucks.
I mean, 50 bucks is not bad at all.
And then the next one that we're about to talk about,
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which is El Despertar del Sexo,
that one actually, this guy, I hope he's listening
or he will listen, his name's Juan, he's from Inglewood,
no, no, no, I'm sorry, Linwood.
He has, he used to own a video store in Linwood
and he had a bunch of videos.
And then of course he was also a very big fan
of Mexican cinema, porn, and then he told me
about Despertar del Sexo.
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I was like, oh, and then he kind of told me, yeah,
I think it's a real porn film,
but it's also a filming feature.
And he had a second copy, I was like, yeah,
let me buy it off you.
He's like, okay, yeah, take it.
So I bought it off him and yeah, that's how it started.
I know other people that have the other two,
but I have yet not to see those
because there's a total of four
from this pornography thing that we're talking about.
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But right now we're only with two.
Hopefully eventually we find the other ones
to complete this whole trilogy or whatever.
Yeah, cause I gotta say the profesores de amor is,
it's good.
I'm not gonna say that it's not good.
You know, there's definitely some shortcomings in there.
The actors are really that great.
There's no lighting whatsoever in these movies.
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Some of the sex scenes you can't even tell
what's actually happening.
And it's not even cause of the video,
it's just, that's how they filmed it.
It's just no lighting at all really.
Or no professional lighting that is.
Yeah, there's nothing.
It's hard to tell something.
I think there was a, I think it was like the second
or third scene, but it was so dark.
You couldn't even see when the guy was actually
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penetrating or anything.
But there was effort.
That was the thing.
It's like, they obviously were kind of knowing
what they were doing and then kind of not.
But overall the turnout was like, yeah, you know,
it's interesting to watch, you know?
Like if you did cut out the sex scenes,
like the actual sex scenes,
you would be like a sex comedy basically.
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah, and that's kind of what he was already doing
at the time, I'm gonna go to Rodriguez Vasquez.
Like there's one called Las Profes,
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Nena Salamot or something like that.
I forget what it's called, but other sex comedy
similar in that vein where it's just like,
these guys just get themselves involved with these girls.
And then, you know, from there,
they're just doing these raunchy things.
And then hijinks from there.
And then speaking of hijinks, the ending,
we can't leave out the ending of the movie.
Yeah.
Yeah, so the hijinks is like the ending of the movie here.
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It's like the promoter agent or whatever.
He comes to the house and he's just bombarded
with these two girls and they just start going at it with him.
He basically gets with both of them
and they're just on top of him.
Mouth to dick and shit.
It's so crazy.
Because why not, right?
He's the one that sent them in the first place.
Yeah, so he gets to have both of them.
But it's like he didn't want to, he just didn't expect it.
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And then you could tell this guy was not an actor either.
Like he's not even hard after.
And I think it was Malacara that didn't.
Yeah, that was the other guy.
Yeah, the promoter for her.
You could tell right away he was not even into this.
He was just naked.
So yeah, this is how it is.
It's just, it plays on like a sex comedy,
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hijinks, unexpected sex scenes,
and just like little quirks here and there with music
and like sketches or whatever, comedy sketches.
Yeah, one thing I found interesting,
well, I don't want to say interesting,
but because it kind of is kind of a played out thing
in Mexican movies of the time where they always had
a gay character as well, who was kind of like
the, you're not laughing with him, you're laughing at him.
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You're laughing at him, yeah, that was due to AO.
Which was, I don't know, unnecessary, but you know.
Yeah, they have to throw that in there just to like,
you know, make it seem like,
hey, this is a movie for grownups or something.
Yeah, yeah.
Like these are people that are out there.
Okay, well, why don't we switch gears
and go over to the second of the two movies
that we're discussing, which is El Despecto de El Sexo,
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which in my opinion was the better of the two movies.
Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah, definitely the better one.
More of a story to it too.
Yeah, I think, so this one basically is about a,
I think he's college age, right?
Is he college or maybe like a senior in high school?
He's probably like a senior in high school, yeah.
His name is Manolo.
Yeah, Manolo, and he's just a sex crazed kid who,
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you know, he's a virgin of course,
and we end up learning that he has some kind of
heart condition and he can't have sex otherwise
he's gonna die.
And so the whole movie is this dude trying to,
trying to have sex but knowing that he's gonna die.
And then he's always fantasizing, that's the funny part.
The whole movie is mostly him fantasizing.
So he's either thinking about it,
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of it's somebody or he's thinking about it when he's seen.
Like he's like, he overhears like his brother
and his girlfriend doing it.
And he's like jerking off to his brother.
Yeah, he's like really into the end,
and he's like dreaming about himself with the maid
cause there's a maid living in the house,
who's attractive by the way.
Yeah, I will say her name is Lolita for what?
Yeah, Lolita, yeah.
And she was absolutely gorgeous.
Yeah.
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And he's basically just fantasizing about her.
He fantasizes about her all the time.
But she also is too anyway too, that's the funny part.
So she's also kind of like similar in that nature with him.
So she's also doing her own fantasies
and like thinking about him or she also overhears
the brother.
So yeah, it's funny how those two are like,
yeah it's like they're meant for each other basically.
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And then eventually they do hook up
and then should we spoil it or no?
What do you think?
I mean why not?
People aren't gonna watch this movie anyway, right?
It's gonna be impossible for him to finally.
Yeah, that's true.
So heart condition, sex fantasies come true finally
for Manolo when he finally hooks up with Lolita.
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A wonderful shower scene,
or it starts off with a shower scene.
Yeah, it starts off with a shower scene.
And then as the movie goes on, finally they meet together.
Well he doesn't even meet with it, he forces himself.
Yeah, that's what I'm gonna say.
He kinda, he starts with a rape.
He pretty much is just gonna rape her
and you're just like oh shit.
But then she seems to enjoy it, like she just gets into it.
And then finally, you know they do it.
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She's satisfied, he's satisfied.
And then all of a sudden he croaks.
Talk about post. Literally right after he finishes,
he just dies and then she's like Manolo, Manolo.
And that's it, that's the end.
It's post-nut clarity times what that was.
Basically yeah, it's so funny.
Dude finishes and instantly dies,
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has a heart attack and just dies.
Yeah, that's crazy.
And then the credits just roll.
And she's like what the fuck, what just happened here?
And then she's like what the fuck, what just happened here?
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Manolo.
It's dead!
Manolo is dead!
He's dead!
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Oh my god!
The funny thing is the third movie, I mean I haven't seen it from what I've heard, Traficantus of Sex or Death After Sex.
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Yeah, yeah.
It's like, what were they trying to say? Like, are we not supposed to enjoy this?
I mean it's pop, so I mean you know, Catholicism runs rampant in Mexico, so I wouldn't be surprised.
Something's going on.
The guilt of sex killed these teenage boys.
That's so weird, man. I was just shocked when I saw it and I was like, wait, what?
It's the, even just thinking about it, it's like, oh man, I can't believe that happened in that movie.
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But yeah, that was interesting though.
So, yeah.
I will say though, in this one, like, you can actually see that there was, because this one is, is that a year after?
Or year or two after?
I believe it was like two years after, yeah. So basically those four, because there's four all together, they filmed them one after the other.
And then this one is the second one, if I recall.
And you can see an obvious quality jump in this movie compared to Professor Asid's.
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A little bit of a more budget. They were focusing on the cinematography, I think, too.
Because they look like they shot it more better too.
Oh, absolutely. I mean the setup for the scenes is a whole lot better.
There's an actual story that goes along with this, kind of like a subplot to this.
And you know, you can't go without saying that the lighting in this one is a lot better.
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Kind of like a sex comedy. This is more of a erotic thriller, I would kind of say, sort of, in a way, or erotic drama.
Yeah, I was going to say more of like an erotic drama, like a 90s drama.
So they were definitely going for that vibe for sure with this one.
But obviously, they were still making porn.
You do see a lot of sex scenes. And then there's one scene where he's fantasizing.
He's at the beach with this girl that he saw from the magazine.
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He's like eating a route or whatever. Yeah, that scene was funny.
So there's a lot of, yeah, obviously a lot of sex scenes in this movie.
But they're very testfully done.
Whereas the other movie was just kind of like, oh, let's just do this.
This one is like, okay, we're going to have him fantasize that he's at the beach.
He's doing this with her.
So I think they were more focused this time around.
Whereas the other one, they were kind of like, oh, what do we do?
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So I mean, I guess it's safe to assume that with this one,
they were like, they knew exactly what they were going to do.
Whereas the first one, the profesoras, they were just like, let's just get this porno in.
Yeah.
Get it out there. Just make some money.
And this one is like an actual.
Yeah, they really wanted to tell a story.
Yeah, then just show sex.
And, you know, the same thing kind of goes with this, right?
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So it's a Mexican production, but, you know,
it also has musical numbers in here.
There's like, there's what three or four pretty decent songs, I would say.
Yeah. And then there's one where they're like at the party, right? I think.
Yeah.
And it's like a, I don't know what kind of music that would be like a grupero kind of thing.
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
And once again, there's another, there's a gay character in this movie.
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Oh yeah. When they go to the brothel.
Yeah.
He's just in there randomly.
It's, you know, he never comes out again, by the way.
He's just there once and then that's it for comedy relief.
Basically, that's just about to say it's literally the exact same as most of those movies at the time.
You're laughing at the gay character, not laughing with the gay character, which is unfortunate,
but, you know, it's just, it is what it is, right?
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It's part of the, part of the cinema of the time.
But yeah, so what did you think of this one?
Obviously, obviously you liked it.
I, this was probably the one you could recommend to everybody.
Yes. If I was going to recommend one of the two, it's definitely going to be this one.
For sure.
I don't know if I'd say I loved it, but I definitely liked it a whole lot more than Professor of the Dead of the Moon.
Definitely more intriguing for sure.
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You know, it just kind of has, like you said, it has like this like 90s erotic thriller drama vibe to it that kind of creepiness,
because you're kind of going through this guy's like fantasies, right?
Yeah, and the music too, that's it.
Like the music's so weird, like they clearly were not thinking, I don't even think it's like a real score.
I think they just found like some music to play along and then that's it.
I think there's an actual end credit to it though, like a music credit to somebody,
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which I should have wrote down on my nose when I was rewatching it,
but I recall seeing that there was an actual person credited for like incidental music.
It still went with the movie though.
It's like really eerie, depressing piano.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's weird.
I mean, yeah.
And then especially when the movie ends, you're just like, whoa.
The music just adds more of a eerie vibe to your like, oh shit.
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But yeah, I really like this one more.
Obviously, yeah, you know, obviously you liked it more too.
But yeah, this would probably be the one to recommend.
And then if you are going to be able to watch all these, it would probably be, I would go with this one first.
Yeah, I would agree.
I think this one has more of a, I don't want to say more relatable because that seems a little weird.
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But like the, yeah, I know what you mean, like the whole fantasizing, especially when you're young, you know.
Yeah.
You just think about, that's all you're going to think about obviously.
When you're a guy, that's all you want.
You think about that a lot.
And like you said earlier, it goes both ways, right?
Because Lolita is thinking about the same thing.
And then the same thing, you have the female aspect to it too.
She's thinking about it too.
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And she's about the same age as him too.
So there's like an adolescent kind of thing going on there maybe, like late adolescent thing, you know, where they're just thinking about it.
They're focusing on that.
Growing up, you know, puberty sucks.
Kind of thing, I don't know.
Yeah.
Discovering of sex.
And that's literally what the movie is called.
Exactly.
That's called sexual awakening.
Yeah.
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So yeah, I mean, yeah, I like that.
I mean, I like it a lot for what it is, you know.
Definitely the one to see.
And if you ever find it, yeah, watch the hell out of it and you're going to like it.
If someone can ever find it.
If you can find it.
And it's again, even I didn't even really existed until the homie Juan told me about it.
Shout out to Juan.
I don't know you, Juan, but shout out to Juan.
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Yeah, Juan from Linwood.
Linwood up to no good.
Close to my hood actually.
So he's not too far from me.
I missed that guy.
I need to hit him up again actually.
I think after this podcast, I'm going to mess with him.
Be like, Hey, I just covered the movie you told me about.
And if you haven't heard the copy, Juan, hit your boy out because I'll definitely.
He actually has a poster.
Oh, he has a poster too.
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So from the video store, he has the actual poster from the cover.
It's so fucking awesome.
I remember telling him to sell it to me.
He's like, no, I'm not selling it.
If I see my collection, I'm not selling it.
He's like, maybe one day I'll give it to you.
But no, not right now.
I remember him telling me that I remember when he pulled it out and I was like, let me take
a picture and I did a picture and you can see his hands right there.
But yeah, well, that kind of leads up a good point because hopefully, you know, one of
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these companies like vinegar syndrome or Severin or whoever would kind of take up an
interest, probably more vinegar since they already released hardcore stuff, but would
take an interest in these movies and hopefully try to find rights and kind of restore them
and bring them back to life because there is merit to these movies, right?
So they're not just pornos.
There's a little bit of something to say and I think people would enjoy it.
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Yeah.
Basically, they're part of like Mexican film history of the 90s, kind of like in the book
for a saying.
That's literally the name of the book, Sine por la Nafica o Mejana de los Noventa, the
Iromán, the author saying, you know, these movies existed.
I'm glad he wrote this book too because I probably would have never known.
Other people probably would have never known these movies existed, you know.
Oh, absolutely.
They would have been lost over time, but really he thought about it and put it in a book.
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And he put a lot of work into it too.
You're reading the book, you know, seeing that he cited so many different people going
into kind of the history through European movies that made their way to Mexico and stuff like
that.
There's a lot of intertwining here, but I think with how little Mexican cinema has been kind
of put onto a pedestal compared to European cinema or Asian cinema, like there's definitely
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a need for it.
And you can't talk about Mexican cinema without talking about porn.
Same thing as the United States, right?
You can't talk about, you know, the boom of the 70s and independence without talking
about the rise of pornography.
So hopefully someone gets on board and kind of puts these out because they're...
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I'm sure there's print somewhere.
If it's not in the Cinetecca or Filmteca una, I'm sure somebody has prints.
If not print, maybe a video master, at least a video master, I hope.
You think the Cinetecca would have a print?
They might, or they might be too embarrassed to admit it.
It's hiding somewhere.
Like even like them having intrapidus punks, for example, like I would have never imagined
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them having it, but they did, and that's where the restorations came from.
Well you would hope that they would because like I said, it's important.
It may not be everyone's favorite genre, but it's part of the history in and of itself.
So yeah, I'm sure one of these archives have it.
If not an archive, maybe a collector.
If not a collector, I'm sure there's some kind of video master somewhere.
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There's some weird fool.
There's gotta be some material, something.
I mean, at least I know I have the 2VHS.
There it is.
They can remaster it off the VHL and fix it up.
AI, what is it, the AI restoration that they do?
I don't know.
I mean, I'm not saying Vinnigar does that, but like other companies do.
Someone's out there is doing it.
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Maybe up in the Lager is doing it.
But yeah, so that's what I'm saying.
People need to see these.
It's important.
Film wise, history wise, Mexican cinema wise.
So let's pray to the good Lord or Satan or whoever.
These movies come to light and hopefully this podcast that you're listening to brings more
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interest to it as well.
That's the hope too.
We hope that, I know we kind of didn't go too much into detail, but that's on purpose.
We don't want to go scene by scene and kind of give you guys a play by play.
We wanted to let you know that these movies exist, what they're about, what you're going
to see, how it happened.
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And draw, like you said, draw a little bit of interest into it and let you guys go out
there and dig for them.
So that's the first episode.
I didn't want to just talk about just some random Mexican movie or a horror movie.
I wanted to go into something very deep and something so forgotten or unknown and it's
cine por un grafico mexicano de los 90.
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And I guess it's kind of good that we didn't go too deep into it, right?
Because it's not like there's a lot of information out there.
Everything we're talking about today is based off a 70 page book.
So that's literally all there is written about this anywhere.
At least to my knowledge, I'm sure to your knowledge.
Yeah, this is it.
This book, by the way, is super rare.
And thank you, Hector, from Mexico for giving me this book.
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Hector, if you're listening, give me your address.
I could send you those big boxes of things I have for you for giving me this book.
Hector.
Hector Contraros.
But yeah, he's the one that gave me the book.
And so I guess moving forward, we have a lot of things in store for the podcast.
Oh yeah.
Before we let you guys go from whatever you're all doing while listening, our next episode
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will cover a Mario Almaa movie and a Valentino Jio movie.
One with both of them, actually.
Everyone's favorites, right?
Yeah.
You can't be Mexican of a certain age and not know who Mario Almaa is or Valentino Jio.
And for those who don't know, they're probably the biggest action stars of the 70s, 80s,
and 90s.
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And people kind of have forgotten about them, but with Trashmacks and other people that
have been talking with me, they're still remembered.
They're still known.
And with this platform, especially with the podcasts, we're going to give them a...
She had some more light on them.
Yeah, she had more light on these guys because these guys deserve the world.
They're fucking...
I mean, if you haven't seen one, which is crazy because you have screened these before,
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but if you haven't seen them, these fucking movies are amazing.
Yeah, and these actors are just so great.
They're not bad actors.
They're not exaggerated actors.
Well, maybe they exaggerate some things, but they're good exaggerators.
They give them as Charles Bronson.
They give them as, I don't know, Steven Seagal or whatever.
No, not Steven Seagal.
Charles Bronson.
Well, Charles Bronson.
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There we go.
Charles Bronson.
For sure Charles Bronson, yeah.
So yeah, big action stars from back in the day, very important actors too.
So we'll kind of delve into their careers as well.
But yeah, so that'll be the next episode.
It'll be about two legendary actors from Mexico that I really, really, really adore
and really respect.
And I hope that episode also brings more light into their work and Mexican cinema in general,
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genre cinema.
So yeah, I think that's it, right?
Yeah, absolutely.
Thanks for listening and Joey, you got anything else?
Yeah, no, it's just thanks for listening.
It's trying to keep it as brief as possible with as much information as we can, short
and concise.
But as Armando said, we got Valentin Trujillo, we got Mario Almala coming up.
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We got a lot of things in store.
So please spread the word.
And by the way, yesterday will be a Lucha episode.
We won't say yeah, but we will, don't worry.
I know people are probably like, are you going to talk about Lucha?
They're like, yes, we will.
We can do a podcast about Mexican movies and not talk about Lucha.
Exactly, that's another thing.
They're coming, but it's not going to be what you expect.
Maybe, maybe what you expect, but it's not the two famous.
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Not the obvious.
That's the thing with Trashmix, with the blog.
It's always been like, I don't want to make it the obvious stuff.
I want it to be like the cool shit.
I mean, at least I believe it's cool shit.
And then the rare stuff as well.
So the podcast will be a lot of the cool stuff, the rare stuff, a little bit of the
obvious and then things that you think are obvious, but not exactly.
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Just like with this Lucha episode, it's going to be not too obvious.
It's going to be like, whoa, okay, this is different.
He's legendary, but he's not, at some rate, did not talk to us as much.
Yeah, it's not as unto.
Don't start saying, oh, you're doing this and that.
Not yet, not yet, not yet.
Another wrestler.
But yeah, we'll shed into that later on.
But yeah.
And yeah, if you guys have any questions or concerns or suggestions, give us a comment
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on Instagram, message on Instagram, or what's the email again?
Yeah, we have a set up an email at trashmaxpodcast.gmail.com.
So hit us up there too, you know, with those lines are open.
Hit us up on Instagram.
That's your Trashmix.
Trashmix.
I'm Cheta Brown.
Cheta Brown.
And give us a listen in all the podcast platforms, right?
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Or which ones are we not going to be on?
Yeah, we'll be on all.
It'll be listed on all the, anywhere you listen to podcasts, it'll be on there.
Not MySpace music, girl.
MySpace music.
Do you see this?
There used to be another one.
I forgot.
It's an old one.
We'll be on Tidal.
I don't think Tidal does podcasts.
I don't even know.
We'll be on all of them, the ones that you listen to.
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Yeah.
We'll be on Spotify, Apple, all that good stuff.
Spread the word.
I hope you enjoyed the episode.
Hit us up with any type of comments or feedback, suggestions from future episodes.
And have a go happy digging, trying to find these points.
Yeah.
Thanks for listening guys.
And don't die when you're about to come.
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Post not clarity.
Post not clarity.
It is a real thing.
Yeah.
We'll be on Tidal.
I'm going to be on Tidal.
I'm going to be on Tidal.
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I'm going to be on Tidal.
I'm going to be on Tidal.
I'm going to be on Tidal.
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I'm going to be on Tidal.
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