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Hello everybody and welcome to the Trash Mix Podcast.
We are on episode seven now, right?
Episode seven, that's right.
We talked about-
Who'da thunk, huh?
I know.
So what have we talked about so far?
We've talked about porn.
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Porno, which is my favorite topic.
Yeah.
Action, crime.
We've done romance.
Romance.
We got a little romantic this time.
Which, you know, surprisingly had a really good response.
I was a little scared that people weren't gonna tune into the episode.
Yeah, I mean, I didn't really give a fuck.
I was like, you know what?
Joey wanted to do this.
I wanted to do this.
This is our show.
Fuck it.
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I don't care if people don't listen.
But no, people liked it.
People actually really liked it.
So thank you guys for tuning into that.
We also did Killer Dolls.
Killer Dolls with your brother.
With the other-
Yeah, that's right.
And then now we're moving on.
To what?
Well, we're gonna start the new year off with a little bit of a, you know, it's January
Giallo, which shout out to Jim from Cinematic Void, because I think he's the one who kind
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of spearheaded that movement.
I feel like he was.
Yeah, he's the one that spearheaded it for sure.
So we're gonna do a little bit of a January Giallo, Mexico style.
And then we're gonna pair that up with a rape revenge flick.
Proto Slasher too.
Proto Slasher, yeah, you could say that.
So that's kind of why I wanted those two to be together.
Obviously January Giallo, and then something that is predating that too.
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Which is this next movie.
So let's start off.
The first movie we're talking about is Muerte del Chacal, which translates to the death
of the jackal.
This is 1984, right?
Yeah, filmed in 83, and then released a year after.
So it's directed by Pedro Galindo III and Pedro Galindo, right?
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So there's a little bit of confusion there I've seen on the internet about who actually
directed this.
Pedro Galindo you would say would be like the patriarch of the Galindo empire, right?
This is the granddaddy of them all, you know?
This is Ruben Galindo Jr.'s grandpa, Ruben Galindo Sr.'s dad.
So yeah, it all begins with Pedro Galindo, and he was a Mexican composer.
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I think I've mentioned this before in another show.
Yeah, I think it was episode two we talked about.
So Pedro Galindo, for those who don't know, big time music composer from back in the day,
he did Soy Puro Mexicano and La Malagueña.
Everybody knows La Malagueña.
Oh yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, yeah.
So that's what he's mostly known for.
So obviously this family has been very talented for years with music, and then during the
60s, that's when they dwelled into film.
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And of course their heirs, like you know, Pedro III and Ruben Jr. came along and started
making films.
And so I also saw that this was produced by Eduardo and Santiago Galindo.
So are they part of the Galindo empire?
So Santi is the cousin of Pedro III.
Cousin of Pedro III, okay, okay, that makes sense.
So they're all related.
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Yeah, so they're all part of the same family.
And now, Es Casa Blanca Producciones, is that a Galindo production house?
That was one of the production houses.
Yeah, they have like many names.
There's that one, and then what is it, Galupi or something like that.
I forgot.
They have a bunch, but that was one of the main ones when they first started in the 80s.
Okay, so you know, it's a family affair as I'm sure you guys have now started to kind
of take notice in these Mexican movies where there's a couple families here and there that
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have kind of taken the Mexican movie industry by storm.
There's Galindo, De Andas, The Martinez, Cardona's of course, everybody knows Cardona's.
But yeah, Galindo's is like, I would rank them maybe second, I would say like top.
Because Cardona's like the grand, I always say they're the top, they're the granddaddies
of Mexican genre cinema.
I think so.
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Yeah, I think that's a good statement.
And after that it would be for me, at least I think Galindo, you know, because they did
a lot even since they first started.
It was just a bunch of comedies, dramas, but very strong dramas that people really liked
and then the 80s come and then the grandchildren come.
Yeah, I was going to say the younger Galindo's are the ones who kind of spearheaded like
the horror stuff.
Yeah, because they were all horror fans for the most part, especially Ruben Jr.
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So yeah.
They were of age when all like the 70s and 80s.
Exactly, so they grew up watching all those and they're like, yeah, you know, let's make
those, you know, since nobody else is, you know.
That makes sense.
You know, they brought the genre into Mexico.
I saw that this was shot by Miguel Arana, who people would know, you know, famously
shot Don't Panic.
There we go.
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Yeah.
I mean, you know, a plethora of other titles, but I think the majority of people would know
Don't Panic because of, you know, Vinegar Syndrome released it and everything.
Music by Nacho Mendez.
And I got to say, this soundtrack was fucking sick in this movie.
At first I thought it wasn't him because he often gets credited for the old George music
that gets played.
Really?
Yeah.
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But this time it's not.
This is actually all Nacho right here.
Yeah, there was.
He's known as like a jazz kind of boss, a bossa nova musician in Mexico.
And he was kind of he was in a group called H3O, which is like a like a progressive jazz
group, which they're actually pretty dope.
So I was kind of surprised to see his name.
I wasn't really familiar with him outside of this.
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His name is plastered.
If you watch more 80s movies, you're going to see his name.
Not tremendous, not tremendous.
But he's often credited for even just bringing in the old George music, which I thought was
weird.
But you know, it is what it is.
I mean, you know, as long as you don't have to credit somebody else, you have to give
credit to one person.
OK.
And so it's also starring the Almada brothers, Mario and Fernando, starring Christina Molina,
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who some people would know as Sexy Vanessa.
So for the for the milf, mature porn enthusiast out there, I'm sure they've seen her, the
redheaded bombshell.
I was so surprised because I was like, OK, who's Christina Molina?
Because obviously she's really pretty in the movie.
And I was like, well, she's really pretty.
What else has she been in?
And I was like, oh, she hasn't been in that many movies.
But when I was searching, I was like, who's sexy Vanessa?
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Why is she?
And I looked, I was like, oh, this is the same woman.
And I was like, who the fuck is sexy Vanessa?
And then I googled her.
I was like, oh.
And then I was like, oh, I have to pay 10.39 to see more cover content.
So she's now an OnlyFans.
She does only.
Yeah.
And she's in the early 2000s.
My my you know, my era of watching the Internet, TMI.
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But you know, call it what it is.
But she was like in the same realm of like like Nina Hartley.
Right.
So she was like, you know, a little older, more mature, you know, quote unquote milf.
Yeah.
But so she's in here.
She's from Argentina.
She's not she's not Mexican, but she made like her name in Mexico as like a singer,
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you know, she has a really interesting history.
There's an article from I think Daily Mail that if you guys ever look into it, you guys
need to read it.
It's really interesting, especially about her starting out and then going from that
to porno and so forth.
Like how she made the transition.
Yeah.
And then she was like married to like a drug dealer, I guess from Columbia to like in the
middle of, you know, everything that was going on for her.
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Yeah.
So yeah, if you guys ever want to learn more about her actually, or if you guys want to
pay for that or if you want to rub one out, yeah.
10.39 a month.
Something like that.
I don't remember the price.
Yeah.
It also stars Olivia Collins as Sally, which this is her first movie role is what I found
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online.
Yeah.
And like it's funny because she's barely in it, but she just stands out.
And I was hoping to see more of her, but yeah, she doesn't really have a huge role.
Is it a huge role?
Not really necessarily.
She she plays, I guess, kind of an important role.
Yeah.
But she's not in there for a very long time.
But she stands out very much though.
That's all I was like, oh, I was hoping she was more in the movie, but yeah, she's only
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in it for a little bit.
Some people would know her from Violacion and Colmillos del Homero Lobo or the tons
and tons of novellas that she did afterwards.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She's a very big time familiar phrase.
We have Liseta Romo, who's kind of a known Mexican actress, right?
Yeah.
Another one right there.
Really big cast here, like really well known cast.
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You know, there was quite a few actors in here that I thought did really fucking good.
And I mean, we can get into when we start breaking the movie down.
But like you said, it is kind of an all star cast.
There's a lot of great players in this one.
We also have Ruben and Fernando Benavides respectively.
They're very well known in the Rio Grande Valley.
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So of course they're in it.
And so, you know, OK, you said the Rio Grande Valley.
You want to talk about that a little bit, because I know this was shot in Brownsville,
right?
Yeah.
So it was filmed around Brownsville, Texas, and then the Port of Brownsville, which is
obviously not far.
And then Port Isabel, which is like a resort beach town type of thing, kind of thing.
In Brownsville or in that area.
Yeah, in that area of the Rio Grande Valley.
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And then where the ship location from the movie, it was in Port of Brownsville.
And from what I understand, it was a crashed ship.
Like it just crashed there.
And so they were just waiting for it to get repaired or whatever.
I don't know how that works.
It was obviously was just there for a while.
Yeah.
So then, of course, you know, when the Galenos came, they're like, oh, you know, let's fucking
use it.
Let's just use this place.
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You know, so I guess they asked permission.
Maybe, I think.
I don't know.
They just snuck on there with cameras.
Yeah.
I mean, there's not a lot of scenes on there, but the scenes that are on the ship are pretty
effective.
Yeah.
There may be like one in the morning.
All right, fuck it.
Let's get these shots.
It is really late in the night.
Yeah.
So yeah.
So they filmed it in the ship that was wrecked, technically, waiting to wait, waiting to repairs.
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So do you think this movie was made for the American audience?
Because I mean, the characters have American names.
It's shot in Texas.
Obviously, it models itself after a slasher, but it also models itself after a giallo, really.
But it definitely feels like they were kind of aiming towards getting the American crowd
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in to go see this movie.
Yeah.
I mean, for the most part, the Galenos were already making movies there in Texas, obviously,
to appeal to both audiences on both sides of the border, so Mexico and the US.
So yeah, so I would say it's more for the Americans this time, because this one does
feel more American when you think about it.
But Brownsville was like a hot spot.
Why was Brownsville a hot spot?
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Because, I mean, without getting too detailed of the history, because it's such a long history,
but for the most part, since they settled there in the 70s, the Galenos and the other
families, it was just because they had community support.
They could use like the...
They could use resources there easily.
They don't have to pay anything, or they could pay a little bit and get some of the people
in the city involved as well.
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Yeah, like established relationships.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, so that's why there's always businesses being shot there, and then they zoom in to
the name of whatever place.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like the strip club gets the show, and then other hotels or something like that.
The little free advertisements.
So yeah, so they had big support there in the Rio Grande Valley.
People were always excited for them to make a movie there.
And of course, if they had anything they wanted to put into it, yeah, fuck it, get involved.
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I mean, yeah, it definitely adds kind of a value, because sometimes you watch these foreign
movies that are obviously made for international market, and you're like, dude, this is not
America, brother.
I mean, not to say America was the only international market, but obviously a lot of international
movie makers are selling them here.
Yeah, so this movie was more sold forwards, yeah, like I said, just both sides of the
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board.
Not necessarily one focus, but yeah, it could be for both.
America, for sure, just because it's so familiar.
And so, okay, let's kind of break it down a little bit.
Muerte de Chacal, we said it's kind of a January Giallo episode a little bit, and I saw some
kind of conflicting articles online about it.
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Is it a Giallo?
Is it not a Giallo?
Yeah.
And I think this kind of plays like two halves, right?
So I think the first half is really Giallo adjacent.
Oh yeah, definitely.
And the second half turns more into like a procedural slasher type of movie.
And we say that because the killer, and oh, hold on, hold on, before we get any further,
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are we going to spoil this for the listeners or are we not going to spoil it?
I mean, they're going to watch it somehow, some way, and then it's better if we do speak
about what happens.
But we don't want to say the twist, right?
I mean, we could talk about it without naming names for the twist, right?
Yeah, I guess we could do that.
Okay, all right, so we'll do it that way then.
Just so that we don't spoil it later on.
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Okay, so the first half, like we said, is kind of like a Giallo because the killer,
he's dressed in all black.
He's got the black gloves.
You don't really see it.
You see his face.
All you see is like a shadow figure.
Yeah, and he's wearing the hat too.
So immediately when I saw it, I was like, this is like a Giallo.
So he looks, for those who are Giallo fans, he looks like the killer in Blood and Black
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Lace just without the white nylon face mask or whatever.
He's got his face is always kept in the shadows.
But yeah, let's kind of get into it.
The movie starts off, like you said, in the port of Brownsville, right?
Yeah, port of Brownsville and that ship.
Yeah, and I don't know if there were two sailors or just two dudes with their girlfriends that
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show up on this ship.
And they're trying to find a little hideaway to kind of mack it with their girls and run
into a couple dobermans that set them up for failure.
Yeah, that's when our killer comes out.
And that's when you get like the first kind of glimpse of who the killer, not who the
killer is, but how he attacks because he uses these dogs throughout the movies as as like
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weapons for like like his little henchmen almost.
Yeah, they're like finding victims for him basically.
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That's a good one.
Oh
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And
Yeah, they or they they like incapacitate them so that he can come and finish the job
You know, he doesn't have to exert himself too much, right? That's true. Yeah
and then it kind of cuts into
the second scene
Which I thought was actually really effective. It's like outside of a motel and she was a prostitute, right?
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she was she was leaving the motel and
The killer kind of stalks her a little bit
She's walking by like the docks or something and he stuffs her into a lot into a locker with it
Was it a locker or like a storage locker? Yeah, it was kind of it kind of reminded me of the scene in Halloween
was a Halloween 2 when he's he's stalking the security the security guard is like kind of going through the oh, yeah, yeah, yeah
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so if you if you know that scene that this is kind of what that scene is like he's she's walking by a bunch of like
lockers storage doors and
He stuffs her in and just stabs the shit out of her with his with his cane
which is kind of another you know call back to the jello because a lot of a lot of like
Instruments that were used in killing were kind of like, you know deceptive where it's like it's okay
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It's a cane or you think it's like a fucking handpiece, but it's really like a claw
Yeah, it's like a lot it's his cane that you know, it comes out and he uses it as a as like a sword to
to kill his victims, right and then we get introduced to
Fernando Almada who's you know, the second brother of the Mario and Fernando?
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And he's like a Navy
Captain or something. He's like a really important person in the Navy. He's like a like a devil
He oversees the the docks there is kind of what he's character. Yeah, he barely got the position there cuz he came from San Diego before that
That's right. Yeah. Yeah, so I guess they I so he definitely was like a Navy guy
and
He's like a he has like a training montage that looks like Rocky. Oh
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He's like all sweaty on the chest and shit and that's when he runs into Mario Almada whose name is Sheriff Bob
Sheriff Bob
Bob
And
That's kind of where the mystery starts to take place. So once Sheriff Bob, you know shows up on the scene
He's like, all right, what the fuck is going on? We got all these girls that are dying out here
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We got dead people on a ship
Now he's tasked with finding this killer. Yeah, and his brother gets involved too. He wants to help out as well
Yeah, well, I guess it's because he kind of oversees the docks
Sheriff Bob needs his help because he doesn't have jurisdiction to investigate at the docks, right?
Yeah, and that's kind of where their partnership turns in and he kind of leans on
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Roy to help. Oh, sorry. Excuse me help him with
With figuring out, you know, who the fuck is this killer? Yeah, so Bob and Roy it's typical like a model
You know, they're like going after these people that they think could be the killer. So there's like a couple action sequences
Yeah, yeah, it was like a chase with the boat. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, so stuff like that, you know
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There's so one thing that I saw when I you know when watching this
There's a lot of kind of oh, I don't want to say oh my jeez cuz I don't know if that's what they were intending to
do but there's a lot of
similarities to other movies
in the scene when they wouldn't so sheriff Bob goes to a local dance club to
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Kind of start his investigation because they tell him hey
There's a there's a strange guy at this club that you might want to look into
And I think it was just kind of an excuse to go get you know, get a couple babes into the movie
Yeah, cuz there's like a stripper scene. Yeah, and in that in that, you know scene there's a
a scene where he goes upstairs to talk to one of the strippers and it's like
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It's almost like a black Christmas type of scene right so like when he's looking through the like the plastic
Yeah, I saw that was a holy shit, I don't know if it was a direct reference like if they were influenced by it
I would think it is. Yeah
really good scene
And it's kind of like you get a sense of the brutality of the killer
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Because this is when he throws her out, right?
Yeah, and then he throws her out into the stage throws her out from like the second story glass window and she lands
On the stage where another girl is in the middle of her dance routine
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And
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That's when they are like, okay we we we didn't find the killer here we didn't find any answers
But there's another guy in the on the docks who I thought he kind of looked like Ramona. Yeah, I don't know if you
Remember yeah, I was watching that shit looks like Ramona yelling
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He's the one with the cane right I think
Yeah, so he's the one that they were they were trying to find at the strip club
But they couldn't and he's the one who lives at the docks, which is why Sheriff Bob needed Roy's help to
to go there and
They go onto his ship. He's got a bunch of like nudie magazines plastered all over his wall and
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And that yeah, so then they try to get him and that's when you had said
Yeah, it's like police protocol type of thing. They're chasing him. There's a boat, you know guns. Yeah, it's a it's a chase
Yeah, but it's a boat chase. Yeah, I thought it was actually fucking sick. You can see Mario Almal. I just like on the boat like yeah
Yeah, like super machismo and then fucking crashes into it into the side of a mountain and fucking blows up
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Yeah, so you're just like damn this is just like a callback to their action films and and it was the first red herring of the
Movies like you think it's this is the killer but no, sorry guys. It's not the killer
Because it turns out that he was just hiding drugs on his boat and that's why he ran away. Yeah
So, you know check him off the list because now you got to go find somebody else
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and
This is when
Olivia Collins comes into play. Yeah, so they're like it she's introduced at a party right at the house Bob's house
Yeah, Bob is having like a little dinner party
invites his brother Roy and
That's this is when Olivia Collins walks in. Yeah, and yeah, of course Roy looks at her like oh my gosh
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She's she and of course the same thing she looks at him like they're very into each other
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California
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No
So then they decide to kind of she's like, all right, let's let's get out of here, you know, like I'm gonna fuck this party
let's go let's go have our own little party and
He takes her to the boat
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the infamous boat and
they get stalked by the killer and
And and it's this is kind of like the turning point
Because we find the identity of the killer at this scene, yeah at this point
Yeah, you you're you're already like, oh shit. This is the killer. Yeah, so they they get to the boat and
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You know, it's actually it's actually a really good scene. There's like the the music on there which
I'm sure medium music cues or something
And
they're kind of you know going trying to find a place to hook up in his boat and then the fucking killer shows up and
there's like hanging hook it almost looks like a
Like a boiler room dungeon from like a Freddy Krueger movie or something
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Yeah, yeah and
And so that scene happens and then it pivots, right?
It kind of pivots to back to sheriff Bob and now he's gonna he's like fuck my now my brother
it was you know attacked, you know, my brother's girlfriend was attacked and
Now he's like I really got to figure out who the fuck this guy is
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Yeah, and that's when we learned the kind of the backstory of
Roy that he was you know in San Diego and then something similar happened over there, too
So he was like familiar with you know, things like that happening
Yeah
And I guess he was like I don't I don't remember if they said he kind of was part of like an
Investigation over there about the killings that were happening in San Diego
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Yeah
But yeah
So then they're like, all right
Well now Roy really needs to be involved because he has firsthand experience trying to catch
Some kind of sex maniac killer in San Diego in his time there
Yeah, so that's when they set up like this whole ploy of all right, we're gonna go undercover
We're going to you know, try to lure this killer in with one of our deputies who's
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Lisetta Romo she starts sergeant was it Garcia? I think sergeant Garcia
I think it was Garcia. Yeah, and she's you know, she you know, very very beautiful woman, you know
It's a no surprise. They would try to use her so they dress her up all
scantily and
She's prowling the streets of Brownsville trying to try to get his attention
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And
So I guess this is kind of where the movie turns it turns from a giallo into the procedural part and
There's actually really dope scenes in this this part of the movie where it's like it's nighttime
there's fucking there's like fog coming in from the from the front of Bay or whatever and
You get a lot of shadow shots of the killer who's out there, you know, he's got his top hat on he's just an all-black
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He's got his cane. You see more of them right? Yeah, really fucking good shots there
and
Yeah, and that's when we discover who the killer is
I
Guess it's interesting. I mean I kind of knew already
You know, I don't want to set people up after if they listen to this and go watch it
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I don't want to I don't want to steer them into thinking who
They think it might be you know, but if you play if you pay close close enough attention
You can probably figure out the twist. It's not too crazy of a twist. Yeah, but
But yes, if you go in it without really knowing nothing you're like, oh shit
Yeah, I mean I guess it could it can take you by surprise
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Yeah
When the moment hits because you I mean you don't really expect even though you might think you know who it is
You don't really expect it
and
I think that's kind of like the that's kind of the part that I thought
Really kind of lended like kind of leaned into being a jello right? Yeah the twist and
I don't know. I mean I I thought it was effective
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But the only problem with you know
I guess divulging who it is at this moment is now you have a second half of a movie to kind of unravel
So how do you move forward?
After you've already identified who the who the serial killer is. Yeah, basically the other half is just like yeah
The killer's out again, and then you find out why the killer's like this and it's pretty interesting stuff
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I thought it was very interesting. Well, I mean it's like stuff. Yeah, it's basic
But I mean at the same time a lot of these like sex maniac killer movies, you know jello movies
It's it's always some kind of sexual trauma
Involved there's some kind of audio complex where you know a kid is in love with their mother or they saw their mom
You know cheating on their dad or saw the day, you know someone you know
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It's always some kind of some kind of violence and sex intertwined and that's kind of triggered their own little I
guess their own little mania of
whatever
And
So yeah, so the second half I think kind of loses a little bit of steam
Because I could say what you mean, yeah, because at that point you already know who the killer is now
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It's like alright now what like you know, it's now it's just like okay. He's escaped
Yeah, Bob
Yeah, so the killer you know, they figure out who it is
They they arrest him but he doesn't go to prison. He goes to a mental hospital
Yeah, and there's a couple cool scenes there like his escape scene is oh, yeah
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It's it's funny, but it's also pretty pretty I think it was executed pretty well
the killer escapes his room by kind of tricking his guards into coming in kind of like
this scene reminded me of Terminator 2 even though it was before Terminator 2 the when
When
Sarah escaped her
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Institution yeah, so it was kind of resembled that scene. I thought
But now the killer wants revenge the killer wants to kill everyone who arrested him caught him and sent him to the mental hospital
and
There's a couple cool scenes after this
The killer shows up to Bob's house takes him and and his wife back to the boat back to the boat. Yeah
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Yeah, I mean look you know that the boat is gonna play an important part of the movie because it's literally the first thing
Yeah, is this fucking boat?
and that's kind of where he lures them back and
He tries to kill Bob and his wife right and that and I guess that's really when we when we learn
Why why he was yeah, yeah, he's kind of
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You know his whole time. He's kind of like the killer in ten to midnight where he's like it's because of this you can't stop me
And again you get these really cool fucking scenes of this boat like Boiler Room style boat
Where they're going up and down these stairs, and it's really dark and the the soundtrack
I thought was real there's more soundscapes than soundtrack, but this is not a stage by the way
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This is inside the boat. Oh absolutely yeah, absolutely what I liked about it's like it's actually in the fucking boat
And yeah, so you know they're trapped on this fucking boat then the killer actually
attacks Sheriff Bob
They get into a little scuffle, and then they go
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flying overboard
Into the into the water where the killer drowns
where the killer drowns allegedly allegedly and
and then it cuts to you know I don't know I forgot how many weeks later or whatever but oh yeah
Sheriff Bob's at his house with his what is what is beautiful wife sexy Vanessa
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and she kind of she has a
Premonition yeah, she's still you still out there. Yeah that the killer escaped the water and
He's fucking going after him and killin him again, and it cuts to like a dream sequence where he stabs the shit out of
Which I thought was kind of a crazy scene like I think that was probably the
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Nastiest scene of the movie I would say yeah
and
You know of course she just wakes up. I was a dream whatever yeah, and then they play this music
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Oh
The pasta me amor tranquil is at the debes saber estado soñando tranquila ya
See
Croquet for a pesadilla
Yeah, yeah tranquila yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
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Is there gonna be another movie yeah
We're not gonna get into it, but yeah, there is a sequel so if you're like wanting more
Then you got to watch the second movie which is called Masacre en Rio Grande
Chacal part two literally that's what it's called
To finish off the story, or you don't have to really if you don't want to you know look
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I'm gonna say this I think I actually liked
Masacre en Rio Grande better that one had a lot more kills
I think it was so it no longer plays as a jealous is like a straight-up slasher movie
But it's so fucking gory like yeah, I mean the first scene he's like drilling some dudes fucking face
Yeah, I forgot about them until I recently when I revisited. I was like I forgot how violent this movie is
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It's so violent and so that was the when you sent it to me that was the first time I had seen
Chacal to you and I fucking loved it honestly
I would I would say that they're both kind of equal like yeah, I mean the only issue. I would have with
Chacal to would be that it's it's almost it's kind of like Silent Night Daily Night 2 where it's just like a rehash of everything
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That just happened for the most yeah, you know they just added a couple kills a couple characters
But it's it's literally like alright, so it's the same format. It's the same one that is
It even ends similar in a somewhat way to
That doesn't water again. It ends in water and it kind of ends kind of open-ended again. Yeah
like if they were gonna make a
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Chacal 3 which there was a sad sadly yeah, but there is a remake that not a lot of people know
I don't know did you watch it or you I did watch the remake yeah, I called it Puerto so funny enough
So there is a remake which was in 96 called Chacal Del Puerto this wasn't by the Galena's
This was by Gilbert Odeon who actually wrote the first movie Chacal
So it was interesting to see that and that one it's cool, but it was still missing that charm from the first movie
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Yeah, it's it's kind of rough around the edges. Yeah, this is sort of like low-budget. It's like Vera Cruz. I think yeah
They didn't film it in Texas
Yeah, was it Vera? I think it was very
But you know if you if you if you if they can find it if you guys can find it
I think it's worth a watch
I mean, it's kind of cool to kind of you know, I guess close that that loop of the the Chacal series
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Yeah, I love the first movie the first movie is like one of my favorites
That's one of the first ones. I remember watching as a kid with my dad, too
So it's a really close to heart I guess you could say yeah. Yeah, absolutely definitely one of those movies
I fucking love it and I loved it because like he said it's kind of a giallo adjacent
Which I thought I loved yellow movies. Yeah, like later on down the line
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That's when I started realizing like this seems like a giallo. Yeah, so much a slasher
It's straight-up gillon and sure enough other people caught on that I saw in reviews. They were like yes
It's like a giallo sort of the so here we go the first Mexican yellow
I would think so. Yeah, cuz I can't think of another movie like this that predates all this stuff
You know other movies there have been movies about killers, you know hiding in the shadows or whatever the fuck
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You know black but but not as formulaic as like yeah
This one definitely had all the traits as a giallo would have the black club
I mean the only thing they were missing was some J&B, but I'm sure in that uh
That uh that scene inside the club. They were probably drinking the gay
Might have been a J&B bottom
Yeah, the J&B enthusiasm you guys can watch it and dissect each scene and see if you can find it
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I liked it because there was like I said, there was a lot of callback
I don't know if I want to call them callbacks, but a lot of references or slash homages to
other horror serial slasher movies of the time and
One thing that I thought
kind of
Separated it a little bit in my eyes was that I feel like the killer
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Kind of had like a Frank Zito
Maniac vibe to him. Yeah, he's like there seems where he's like super sweaty and gross and like
Yeah, it's just it's just yeah, I don't know I
Watching it. I was like, alright, this movie's fucking sick
I started writing down all the things that I thought were references and I was like I
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Think the general population would fucking love this movie
Oh, yeah, this gets on blue, right?
Which it may or may not as far as I know but you know if it does yeah
This is gonna be a favorite for a lot of people. I think yeah, I can definitely see that and it would be dope to have
Massacre en Rio Grande as like a like an add-on like an either a special feature or maybe its own release
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Like it's like a double set or something. Yeah, kind of like the in trepidus punks, but yeah
It's just the one it's fine. You know, yeah, I mean, I know people are gonna love this first movie for sure
Yeah, I think it was fucking dope
Okay, so let's kind of let's move on over here to ultra here
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So this is a second movie which is a rape revenge and then a proto slasher kind of like I told you before and I was
Like yeah, I kind of want to throw this one in there with Chuck all just because it's kind of a proto slasher
not so much a giallo, but you know, it does have the
You know killer point of view scenes and so forth. Oh, yeah, and you know again, like I think
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Horror fans if they watch this they can dissect it a little bit. They'll find some scenes that are pretty
Pretty cool references to other horror movies. Maybe I was kind of looking for them
So I saw them but I think horror fans would definitely find someone a lot of worthwhile
Slasher fans, rape revenge film fans, they're gonna love this
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Okay, so ultra head that translates to what outreach outrage and
So this is a 1977 movie, right? Yeah, they shot it in 76 a year later 77
And so it runs out at brisk 73 minutes, right? It is very yeah
I was like surprised at first I thought maybe the copy I had was short, but now this is the whole movie
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And those who have been listening and following along or those who already know me know that
73 to 77 minutes is the perfect runtime
And it really does because it kind of it you kind of breeze through this so it was written and directed by Raul Fernandez
Yeah, very interesting filmmaker that not a lot of people talk about especially in Mexico. He has like a really big history
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He was born in 23
1923 and then his grandfather like when he was like a little kid gave him a film projector, you know
Just to play with or whatever and I really loved it. Like he just played all kinds of little movies on it and
His uncle it turns out was a set maker for Hollywood films. Oh shit. Okay, so he was like already, you know exposed to film stuff
You know age and then his parents they opened up like a theater or like a projection room to show movies in Oaxaca
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Is that where he's from Oaxaca? No, he's from I can't I didn't note that down
But he's not from Oaxaca, but he's lived in Oaxaca for a while from what I recall
Yeah, then he went when he was like a teenager or like a young adult
He studied radio and film in LA then he came back to Mexico as a film exhibitor
Then that's when 66 he made a movie called La Carcachita. It's like a family movie
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Uh-huh, and then who knows and ten years later he makes this rape revenge
So, I mean is there a reason why it took ten years for him to do another picture?
I think what it is is I mean he was already making movies after that, you know, but it's just like
177 came that's when he started his career in genre of stuff
Okay, a lot of really serious stuff action and like dramas or yeah
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Yeah, I'll try it was one of his first ones into that stuff and kind of crazy if this is your first genre movie
I mean you got some fucked up some fucked up things going on. Yeah, I mean, this is American co-production
So it wasn't all his idea
I wonder if the
American version was like the drama side of it or was it the I think it was the drama and then the rape too
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The drama for sure cuz the way it starts. It's like in LA if I recall Hollywood
Doesn't look like Mexico. It doesn't look like Mexico
Only when they go to yeah, we'll get to it. Yeah. Yeah, we'll get to it. Yeah, okay
And so this was produced by Raul Fernandez as well, right? Yeah
He directed and produced it and I saw that Kathy Lopez was credited as a producer in this
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Do you who's that cuz I only saw one credit? Yeah, I couldn't find nothing either. So I know it's probably just somebody he knew maybe
Okay, and it was shot by Victor Gaetan who
Shot some was a Santo control Las Lobas
Recife mortal and some like Chicano documentary about like Chicano murals and stuff like that
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Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, I've never seen anything else that he shot but
Okay, you know, it's important I guess
Starring none other than Troy Donahue. Yeah that caught me by surprise. I was like Troy Donnie the summer in place guy
Yeah
Who you know, he had a very very solid career in like the late 50s into the 60s and teen idol
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Yeah, sex symbol
And then the late 60s that's when his career kind of went downhill
Kind of with his life too because his personal life kind of fucked up his career, too
I don't know too much about the tribe. Yeah, I was reading about him the other day too
Cuz I wanted to like, you know, cuz a rehash of everything. Yeah
So what it was is of course, you know Warner Brothers was already in decline
I guess for that kind of stuff for him at least, you know, teen idol, you know, All-American boy
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Image or whatever blonde blue-eyed guy. Yeah, you know, so, you know, and then at the same time
He's already, you know kind of dwelling in alcohol drugs wanting to party all the time
Oh, we money to like, you know, like not paying tickets and shit. Yeah, so he was always just getting himself into some trouble
So yeah, he was always losing money didn't have his contract with Warner anymore
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So that's why when you look at his filmography, he's just making all kinds of random movies just needed to get paid exactly
That's how I was like, why is he more trying then? I was like, oh that makes sense
Somebody probably like offered him the role of a do you want to be in this Mexican co-production? Yeah, I need money for some coke
and weed because by then he was living that like hippie kind of life to I noticed kind of a
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What does that work for hippies? That's like the the whatever life. I don't know hippies. No, they're all the same
I always forget the term for it. But anyways, but yeah, he was just you know, living that kind of life
You know, he free spirit free spirited and you know, just wanted to you know, do his own thing
But he still wanted to you know work in film, you know, so he was just taking whatever he could get
Yeah, yeah, this is already in the same place
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Just taking whatever you could get. Yeah, yeah, this is already in the 70. So again, whatever he can get
Well, yeah, and whatever he can get he definitely got something out of it. Do you notice in the movie?
He just does not look great. Like he looks
He looks very janky like even he even though he's supposed to be like a professor. He just not look like a professor
Oh, no, not at all. Yeah, no, he looks definitely
He looks so like just out of it like he's definitely yeah, he's definitely had some rough days. Yeah, he definitely doesn't seem like
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This is not the summer place guy. Yeah, because so this is like again. This is another tale of two movies
I think you know, the first half is like a drama the second half is where we get into it
And yeah, I agree. He does not look like he's the
The type to be like a professor or lovey-dovey
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So I didn't really know anyone else as far as the cast in this but you know
I see we have Alicia and Cena's who was
Played Kathy in this movie. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. She absolutely gorgeous. Yeah. Yeah, so she was in a lot of movies by then
I think this is maybe
Her fifth six. I don't really recall but I know she's already been in movies by then, you know, okay and you know,
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Mexican production. Yes, and then after that yeah from then on yes, she was another bunch of movies after so if you look at her
Filmography, it's pretty big. Yeah, and then we also have
Roland for leaning who which is a pseudonym for
Fernandez
Rose's son
The director son it's it's a it's a family affair again. Look Mexican movies man, the Mexican for that. It's all a family affair
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Yeah, Rolando got his son, you know role involved and then for those that want to know more about
Raul Fernandez, you might even know who he is if you're into Mexican movies
He's the guy that married Rosa Gloria Chaco young. Oh, yeah
Who did the little trailer of movies and then the Guerrero Vengadora movies, you know all those movies and of course the dad was involved
Yeah, I didn't produce him. So yeah, this was like the beginning to for them the beginning of the start the starting the start of
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an empire
And then Laura Fedor who played Laura in this movie who's kind of like the Cathy's
Classmate, I guess. Oh, yeah
Yeah, really small. Yeah, really small role. I mean, you know, she shows up in the beginning and at the end
Yeah, that's oh, yeah much it. Yeah, that's right
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Because there's really only like six main players in this movie. So funny. It's the cast is so short
But they all come back at the end. Yeah
Okay, so let's break it down
There is you know one thing I noticed, you know, there's there's a little bit of confusion on the credits, right?
So it you know, this opens up with a beautiful orchestration
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There's like, you know, you can see two little people running in the distance
Wearing white. Yeah, and
the
The music is credited to George Gonzalez
But then at the end of the movie it's credited to Mike Lara. He will so I don't know what's going on
I don't know if it's the same person or they're just putting making fake names
Whoever did the music did a great job. So I thought the especially this like the opening title card
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Yeah, that music was great
Raul Fernandez is credited as Rex Bader as the writer. I
Don't know what's going up with that. I
Don't even know how to pronounce this name away Grunwald is that is that uh, I
Don't know but they got credit as second camera second unit cameraman as well as
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Cast member there is Canadian people involved too in the movie. So that could be some of the Canadian people
Is that a Canadian name?
French Canadian, maybe maybe there is French Canadians Mexican co-production
So I know this is kind of one of them too, but it's mostly American and Mexican. Okay, but there is some Canadians involved
Maybe they were probably what it was. Yeah
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Okay, so with all that aside all the confusion there this movie opens with Troy Donahue
Kind of teaching a class about like I don't know if it was like impressionist artists or something like that
Who's so basically not a real teacher to begin with
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Fucking liberal arts degrees over here. No, no disrespect guys, but he picked the role now that I think about it
I was it was probably easy for him, honestly, um, he's called Daniel in the movie by Daniel
Yeah, perfect professor Daniel who?
Calls out Kathy for not paying attention and kind of like really fucking drags her down in the class
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It wasn't Kathy like drooling over him. Basically. She's just like staring at him, right? Yeah kind of and then he kind of just completely
disrespects her like
You know tells her that she needs to just leave the class like she's she's she's not really into art and she'll never be an artist
And then one of the classes is like hey, that's not a way to talk to a lady
He's like, shut the fuck up you get out of here. You're a fake hunter
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He's like he's like why are you late? Yeah, that's not what a hunter wears. Yeah, so he's already he starts off on a sick one
Just fucking ragging everybody. No, no, no, no, no
The los artistas a la que se pusieron los criticos sino también a los temas escogidos por estos artistas
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Parece que
todo lo que se requería
del pintor
Era imitar la naturaleza y la gran mayoría aceptaba esto lo cual era absurdo
Sin embargo en Inglaterra
dos pintores llamados Constable y Turner
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Tenían algunas ideas impresionistas
Por ejemplo en el barco de vapor en la tormenta
donde Turner
utilizó
el impresionismo
Al mismo tiempo había un pintor en París de nombre
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Monet
a quien le era familiar
La obra de Turner
Juntos ellos ellos
Kathy
Si profesor he visto claramente que no pones la debida atención
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Que estás en otro mundo tal vez sería mejor que no asistiera a esa clase por algunos días
Ah
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Professor esa no es forma de tratar a una señorita
Ah
Edward creo que lo único que debe interesarte es llegar a clase a tiempo
Vengo de una casería por eso no pude llegar temprano profesor
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le diré
No quería perder su clase pero ahora no regresaré jamás
Ah
Pero luego aprendimos que Daniel tiene como un secreto flingo con Kathy así que es como
Así que no lo veo la primera vez que veo que estoy como que qué está pasando en este vídeo. Creo que tal vez él estaba enojado de que ella estaba con
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No recuerdo ni su nombre, el hundre falsa y
Oh, sí, ella estaba con ellos porque son como sus amigos. Sí, sus alumnos. Sí, sí, sí
Ya, he got like some kind of jealousy of all and it kind of and then we kind of get like a little flashback on
So why he so kind of bipolar manic is that he had like a major accident that caused head trauma
but not
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physical head trauma
physiological head
He suffers from psychological harm
And some other shit I forgot he was like talking to some doctor in the dark like look man. Ain't nothing wrong with you, man
You're just crazy like yeah, you need to get on some pills or something
and
So he apologizes to Kathy. He goes to her. Yeah, go sir goes to the mom like I need to speak to
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So keep this in mind guys, this is like a this is still the first five to ten minutes of the movie and
So he goes apologize to her. I love you, baby
Like I you know, I just I get I get these mood swings and blah blah blah and keep in mind
He's much older than Kathy. Yeah, he's definitely like what 20 30 years old. Oh, yeah, definitely
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and he basically tells her like I was I was being mean to you so that you would hate me and break up with me and
kind of sounds like my ex-girlfriend, but
Crazy who does that? I don't know man. I don't get it. Oh
I'm a
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To watch a movie
Mirama
No, I'm tiendes que trate de irte para que me odiaras
Y así yo pudiera odiarte en lugar de seguir amando te
Danny, te amo tanto
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mucho
mucho
Esta segura
Pero porque no quieres amarme
Hace mucho tiempo tuve un accidente
Los doctores dijeron que había una lesión cerebral
Pero hoy descubrí que no es así
Tenía que mi personalidad
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Y actitudes cambiarán
Mi amor
Tenía miedo de hacerte miserable
Sería imposible
Te amo demasiado
Me propongo a ser muy feliz
And so she basically tells him I just she I love you too much and I'll deal with your dual personalities
Y yo te necesito en mi vida
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Super sappy romantic drama. It almost feels like a made-for-tv drama
The first like 30 to 40 minutes of this movie
So then they agree fuck it I'm gonna quit teaching and let's fuck let's fly to Acapulco
And I don't know if they even shot in Acapulco, but I mean I know that scene definitely when they're flying into the bay
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That's for sure Acapulco, but I don't know if they shot anything else in Acapulco
Maybe the club, but I'm not sure it's hard to tell
Yeah, it is hard to tell but they fly on a romantic trip to Acapulco
They go to like the club like you said and it's kind of like a
Was like a bossa nova club kind of lounge club something like that
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Then he gets into a fight there, right? Yeah
And and so there you go, you know that good show that kind of comes into play right?
He goes his romantic side and then he flips turns the switch and he becomes an asshole
He's like a violent asshole to be
And he just tells you know what fuck this let's let's quit the city life and let's move to a cabin in the woods
And she just says yeah, alright, fuck it. Let's do it. I'm like damn. This is definitely Troy Donahue
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Yeah, right and that leads of course to a very awkward like 10 minute sex scene between
And she's already pregnant by then cuz remember they're in the cave member. Yeah, they're in the woods and they go to a cave and
Then that's what she's talking about. Oh the baby and they're like really?
And then that's when they cut to the sex scene you're like wait what and shouldn't it be the other way first and it's I mean
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Maybe what maybe it was intended that way and they just in the editing room
They flipped it or so down who knows but the sexing is very long
It's like it's literally 10 minutes 10 to 15 minutes long. I was just them in the cabin
They made the baby they're making it again
And then it just cuts to Kathy giving birth to this baby and inside of this cabin like a home like a home birth
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So it kind of goes all over the place
And so this is kind of when the moon and this is when the movie takes a turn
Or at least begins to kind of turn here
Because Kathy ends up you know that she has the kid or whatever. She takes the kid out to like the river or something
Yeah, they're just like, you know having a normal day like always yeah chopping wood and then she's just playing with the kid
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And then I guess we learned that they're kind of starting to industrialize that area. They're kind of you know
Yeah building roads chopping down a lot of the trees and stuff and three workers from that crew
Kind of veer the course and get drunk and I guess one of those is the row Fernandez the Sun right the main the main
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The goon I guess you can say
And so they get drunk
They kind of drive off course
They're gonna start smoking some weed and they run into Kathy and this little baby and they decide fuck it. We're gonna rape her
Yeah, and it's a pretty nasty thing cuz they just go at it
Yeah, it's um, you know, we don't want to I don't want to talk too lightly about you know, you know rape scenes and stuff like that
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I know people are very sensitive to that topic
But if you don't like that kind of those kind of that kind of violence in movies or don't just don't want to see it in general
You probably skipped that part because it is a pretty gruesome scene
It kind of reminded me of last house on the left of anything. It has that vibe to it. It's very nasty
Yeah, it definitely and I did see some people kind of
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Say that this movie was like last house on the left
Which I can see but yeah, it's it's definitely a pretty violent and pretty sleazy rough rape scene
so, you know, please be be mindful of that if you're gonna watch this movie and
That see, you know this rape scene it it lasts like 10 minutes
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It's pretty it's pretty fucking long
Definitely pads the the runtime and I'm assuming that's why they made it so so long and so violent
They just needed to get a little bit of runtime on this movie
But but yeah, so, you know that's happening and then Daniel of course, you know, he hears what's going on
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He tries to fight those guys
Doesn't work out. They fucking knock them out. Yeah, they fuck him up
Then he's like in a frozen state like he's not even like knocked out
He's just like frozen like they hit him in the head or something
Yeah, it's just like frozen like he's still with his eyes open and shut fucking weird too when you see that scene
He's just there. You know, I think I
Mean, I want to give credit to the filmmakers
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I'm gonna assume that they did that because of his mental state already of how you know, he's kind of already fucked up mentally
But yeah, he does kind of sit there and kind of like freezes up on it on himself and trying to save his wife
Yeah his kid
And then that's when Kathy
Unexpectedly just jumps off the mountain. Yeah, like she feels so bad about what happened and then of course
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I guess she thinks he's dead, you know, too. Oh, yeah, you know, you're probably right. Yeah
yeah, so then she just goes to the river and then yeah, just killed herself and
The little girl is nowhere to be found like they don't they never really show what happens to the little girl either
Well, there's like a split second scene where the the baby the little kid kind of like
I don't know if they like falls or gets thrown or jumps into like the river. That's right
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Yeah, and that's it. You don't really see anything else
so you kind of have to assume that this baby's dead and
You know naturally that's gonna upset any any man watching his wife get raped and murdered and his baby as well
and then that
That's off. You know that sets Daniel on his his
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his quest for revenge
and
He does get pretty fucking violent. Yeah, cuz at the same time it's like, okay, he's wandering the woods now on his own
Yeah, and it's like anybody he comes across he just fucking killed him
Yeah, the first two people he kills had nothing to do with this at all
They were I guess they were part of like the job site
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They weren't part of the three men who raped and ultimately killed his wife
Just around there like one guy's just driving his car and then you see the axe go through the car
Yeah, they don't show him killing him, but the the insinuate he got chopped up. I will say that's kind of the one
Point of the movie that I thought was kind of a letdown was that they don't show him actually all the kills are off-screen
(01:00:14):
They're all off-screen. Yeah, which I mean, I don't know if that was like a producer
Demand or or what but I think the movie kind of would have
Benefit a little bit from showing that would have more showing him
Yeah, because you kind of I mean you obviously we know, you know, he's acting these fools up, but you don't I don't
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You never see it, but you know, you see the violence against his wife
So you're like hoping you're I want to see this guy really, you know, really fuck these fools up
And we just he kills him, but we don't get the the real payoff I think and maybe that's just me
You know my my own violent tendencies
But it was still pretty good though, like the scenes that build up to the killings, they're still really good
(01:00:56):
Yeah, I mean we say like he's stalking them in the woods
Like the scene that I really like was when he's talking the little boy. That was yeah
It was pretty brutal. Yeah
Yeah, it's just they're playing or whatever it has no idea what's happening or why he's being chased or anything
It's this fucking madman in the woods
(01:01:16):
And I mean I guess it's pretty like he
He uses the elements of the woods to his advantage
You know, he ends up using his axe to chop down a couple trees to block the
Roadway. Oh, that's right. Yeah, so that the guys can't you know
drive off or drive away from him and he kind of traps them in his own whatever little section of the woods he wanted to
(01:01:39):
trap them in and
Yeah, so he goes out finally after killing the two uninvolved people
Yeah, he finds he finds the three of the of the rapists and and their little truck driving
I don't know if they were driving away from
the work site or what but
He catches them. He manages to get to them and you know, they all meet the devices
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one way or another
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Oh
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Oh
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Oh
Oh
(01:04:02):
Oh
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Yeah, so he finally gets his revenge he kills all three of the guys right
And then it skips forward in time a couple years. I would I would assume right?
Yeah, and we learned that Daniel's been living in the caves and then the forest over there kind of just living off the land
You know, it's fucking bearded disgusting looking Bigfoot, dude
That's typical Troy Donahue look right there. It was a wig obviously and it's in prosthetic. Oh, yeah
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but it was like this is still Troy Donahue style by that time and
And then we learned that the the daughter survived
She didn't actually die when they show her falling into the lake. She I guess went upriver and
Was saved by none other than the hunter from the beginning of the movie the student the student
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What was it was named Roger or something? I can't I wish I would have wrote it down. I completely forgot but
Hank I think Hank I think Hank I
Can't remember his name. He had like an American name
But so he's now with Laura the other girl in class from the beginning of the other class
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They're now married and they've adopted the little girl because while he was on a hunting trip
He found this girl by the riverbanks
I was like, oh we got to save this girl, but Laura's pissed off. She wants it. She wants a kid of her own
She's she kind of resents this fool for
Caring more about this, you know feral child that they found
instead of having their own child
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Okay
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Maybe you and Ed have children of their own.
Yes, it's true.
I guess it's because he pays more attention to her than to me.
Well, that's hard.
But Ed did the right thing by adopting her.
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Hey, Ed, where do you say you found her?
Down there, by the river.
She was unconscious.
And when I realized she was still alive,
I gave her artificial respiration and she woke up.
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Treat her like she was really her father.
And why not? Besides you, it's all he has.
Laura, your attitude with that girl is not natural.
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He takes the kid and they think he just child abducted this little girl.
And it turns out that they shoot him.
The hunter. The hunter shoots him.
He's not a fake hunter anymore.
He did kind of a good thing.
He got rid of the killer that was stuck in the woods.
Yeah, I guess so.
But at the same time, he killed a man that was driven to this.
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And I think that's like and I would like to hope that it was by design that this movie kind of feels like two different types of movies because the main character obviously has this, you know, disability.
I don't want I don't know if disability is the right word, but, you know, he has this mental issue where he he's he kind of flipped, right?
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He's like good and bad. Yeah.
And I don't know. Maybe that's just me trying to be Cisco and Ebert and read read a little deeper into the movie.
But no, it feels like it is like a deep movie.
It's not just like a hack.
Um, you know, we prevent type of movie.
There is more to it than that.
Yeah, that was the thing about this movie.
Um, a bit silly at times, too.
But, you know, yeah, you can say that.
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But I think overall, I think people would enjoy this movie.
I know it kind of got blasted on letter box.
People didn't weren't really fucking with this movie, but I thought it was pretty decent.
Like you said, it's only 73 minutes.
So it's not like you're wasting a lot of your things.
You're not watching a fucking three hour Marvel movie and hating it.
You know, it's funny because one of the endings, I mean, the ending that I showed that I have my copy doesn't have it.
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But there is an ending where it says after everything's over, there's like a cut scene and there's like a text that says the ultimate rape is the tortured brain.
Oh, shit.
Yes, I don't I don't remember seeing that.
Yeah, but I know another copies that I've seen before.
It has that text on the at the end.
It's like the ultimate rape is the tortured brain.
Interesting.
It's like, oh, that's interesting.
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Philosophical assholes.
They went, you know.
Damn.
Well, I guess, you know, I guess that explains the.
So I guess his tortured brain was, you know, rape too.
Yeah, I guess it's a it's a human.
I don't know. I don't know what the word it is I'm looking for.
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But yeah, it's a interesting movie for so many reasons, obviously.
For one, I feel it's very serious, even though it's very silly at times.
But it does have a very serious tone to it, kind of like last house on the left.
You know, yeah, that same vibe.
It's like, hey, you know, we meet these characters, we kind of like them.
But then when something fucked up happens, you're like, fuck, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I want something bad happened to these bad characters.
Yeah, which does happen.
And then, yeah, like I said, the scenes with the killer.
I mean, obviously, Daniel, you know, hunting people or whatever, killing them.
I felt like a slasher almost.
The POV scenes, the scenes with the axe.
There is one scene that I wrote down on my notes that it's it's almost like a like a Friday the 13th ripoff where I think it's part five.
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I think when there's a shot where it's like you're looking from underneath the car and all you see is the accent and Jason's feet walking by.
There we go. Yeah, that's the last.
Yeah. With the final kills.
Yeah, I think that's I think that's part five.
Friday the 13th, part five.
Somebody correct us.
But but yeah, I mean, there's a lot I I didn't I don't know if I liked it as much as Chakal.
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But I do think that this movie kind of it serves a purpose.
Right. I mean, it's like you said, it's a pro.
It's kind of like a Mexican proto slasher.
Yeah. And it predates all the slashers to when I think about it.
At first, I kept thinking, oh, this takes a lot of inspiration from Halloween.
But keep in mind, Halloween is seventy eight.
Yeah. Six seventy seven.
Seventy six. Seventy seven.
I mean, I guess people people would argue that Black Christmas would be like the first.
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So, yeah, I would think.
But I mean, it's if anything, you know, the worst that this could possibly possibly be labeled as is is an early slasher, if not a proto slasher.
So, I mean, there's there's merit to watching this movie.
I mean, again, if you're not into, you know, sex and violence and movies, you know, this keep in mind that ultra head does have a very violent rape scene.
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So it's like spit on your grave.
Last House on the Left spit on your grave. That's a good call out right there.
I definitely think that's a good comparison.
Even just thinking about spit on my grave.
Now I'm like, I know, right?
You know, I haven't seen that in a long time.
But when I think about that movie every time, like that movie is fucking dirty.
It's fucking ugly. Yeah.
So that's kind of how it is with that scene.
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Yeah. Yeah.
And I mean, I guess the warning to the to the viewers would be like, you know, it does have this scene.
But like we said, the first like 30 to 40 minutes is like a straight up TV drama. So if that's not your vibe, then I don't know.
But I think it's worth it.
I don't know if anyone would ever pick this up to release on a Blu Ray.
It could be. It could be. Yeah, it could be.
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I know people want it. I know that labels have wanted this one before.
So, I mean, there you go.
So labels want it. Hopefully, eventually this will get released and you guys will be able to pick it up.
And I don't know. I don't know what kind of special features they'll have on this. But it's online.
Like if you Google it hard enough, you'll find it online.
It has that ending with the text. Yeah.
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Very funny. But, you know, yeah, Chakal is on on YouTube, right? Incomplete. Incomplete version.
It ends with what is it? Oh, yeah. Yeah.
When he jumps in the water. Oh, that they end it there. Yeah.
And then it's just the end. It's like somebody edit this.
That's like the final scene is like one of the best scenes in the movie. That's it. It's like, oh, he jumped in the water.
That's it. Wow. Okay.
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So if you want to watch an incomplete version of Muerte de Chakal, you can watch it on YouTube.
I don't know if I showed you the car. Remember, there's like a guy watching it too in the video.
Yeah. Yeah. He's like kind of like talking over the movie too sometimes.
Yeah, that's it. It's like an audio commentary, but you actually see the guy's face.
It's weird. Yeah. It's not even like good. It's just weird.
And then the incomplete copy. Yeah. I don't know. You have to look hard for that one.
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But it's on DVD. It came out on DVD a long time ago.
Expensive now. Like if you look on eBay now. Damn, is it really?
Yeah. People try to sell it for like thirty dollars or something.
I thought you were going to say like a hundred, two hundred. I mean, there probably is by now.
I mean, people are spending, you know, eighty bucks on shitty movies anyway.
So I don't think thirty dollars is too expensive. Yeah.
But it's on DVD and same thing with Chakal part two.
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Oh, really? There's a DVD of that or is it? Yeah. Oh, shit.
I got to see now. I got to I got to find those because I actually really fucking love these movies.
Oh, yeah. And I don't know, man.
I mean, I guess that's kind of leave it up to the listeners if they want to seek these movies out and watch them.
Yeah. So I'm looking right now on eBay for anybody cares.
Yeah. Twenty nine dollars. Thirty nine dollars for a DVD. Oh, that's not a VHS.
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Forty thirty five. Yeah. You know how I you know how I feel about VHS.
Well, I don't know if people want to watch it.
They can watch it if not, you know, listen to the podcast.
It's readily available either way. Chakal is readily available.
Are they are they English friendly versions? No.
OK, so you got to know Spanish guys. Spanish. Yeah. One sold for thirty nine ninety nine.
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There you go. See, it's in high demand.
You know, somebody bought one for four thirty. Wow.
Somebody got lucky for four dollars. See.
So you play your cards right. Scour eBay.
You'll find a deal on Chakal one or Chakal two.
Is Ultra on a DVD or no? That's just a VHS.
It's been on VHS, which is on the Sala Vega video line.
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OK. I have a video company. Yeah.
So that's the coffee I watched, actually, which was actually a bootleg technically because a friend of mine, Quentin, by the way,
shout out to Quentin. He's the one that actually made the copy for me.
Oh, sick. The cover and everything. Yeah.
He's actually going to give me Chakal to the remake. Oh, shit.
So again, shout out to Quentin. Yeah. Shout out to Quentin.
And yeah. So like I said, great movies.
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January Giallo, our little kind of contribution to that.
Yeah. Hopefully people can watch this and kind of add it to their January Giallo list or feature watch list.
I don't know. Maybe we can do a little collab with Jim or something.
I feel like he would love this movie if he saw it. Yeah.
Shout out to Jim. I would love this movie.
Yeah. Let's make that happen. I don't know. We'll reach out someday.
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Hopefully one day we'll get this on the big screen or something.
And so with that, I guess we'll end it here.
Yeah, we'll end it here. And thanks again for everybody to listen.
You know, and shout out to Joey, of course.
Whatever. Not Mike.
I was telling Joey the story about how somebody thought it was Mike.
I was like, no, Mike's the other homie. This is Joey.
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You know, it's not bad to be compared to Mike, but I'm not Mike.
We'll have Mike on the show again. Yeah. Mike, you're coming back soon.
Don't worry. You'll get a full episode where we won't have to cut out all the spoilers and everything.
So Mike, see it on 16 millimeter coming soon again.
Go see some of his programming.
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And then Jaime, of course, shout out to Jaime for having us record at his spot again.
We're out here in West Covina Heights.
He provided me with a Noche Buena beer.
I don't drink, so I don't know. It looks good, though.
It is good, though. Yeah.
Shout out to Jaime, of course.
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Jaime, Jaime AP. Woo woo.
Rendezvous. Rendezvous is the homies.
Rendezvous coming soon.
We're having an event soon, so stay on the lookout for that.
Oh, and then a new website in the works, by the way, new Trash Max website.
Damn, let them know, let them know.
It's going to be coming in. When will we have this episode up?
Another week or two, probably.
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Honestly, I'm going to try to have this out on Monday.
OK, so even sooner.
Yeah, so by the time you listen to this, the website should be coming.
It'll still be in the works.
It'll be in the works, but it'll be coming in the next like two weeks.
Two weeks, yeah, it'll be before the end of the month.
So, yeah, so new website. This one will have all the new bells and whistles, podcast material.
I've seen, I've seen like screenshots and little videos of the website.
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I'll show you the rest after we're done.
You guys are going to be excited. It looks fucking sick.
Yeah, it's going to be a new cool layout. And of course, like I told Joey, it's going to have more podcast related material, more posts, different kinds of posts, even have Joey write, hopefully.
Yeah, we'll see. Maybe I'll get my pen out and we can get something in.
That's kind of the goal is to kind of bring in new people into the website.
Yeah, kind of do like group forums or something.
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Nobody does forums. Everyone's on Discord.
I don't think I want to do Discord.
I don't know, man. Discord is weird. I don't know if I.
I never tried it, but people have met on there and have made friendships and marriages on the Discord.
It goes down in the court.
Apparently, no, no, no.
I'm missing out on my future ex-wife.
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I got to get on Discord.
Yeah. Hey, who knows?
Maybe there will be a Trash Mix Discord, if we're ever good enough for that.
But yeah, if the fans demand it.
But now, yeah. New website coming.
And again, keep listening to the podcast and please, please, guys.
Rate, Subscribe.
Tell everybody whether you hate us or you love us.
Tell people because they might love us.
You might hate us.
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It's all good, man.
We're doing pretty good for them.
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
I mean, I'm having I hope you're having as much fun as I am.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
And yeah.
So we'll see you guys next month.
Whatever. What are we going to talk about?
Well, we had an idea, but I don't know if it's if it's going to going to happen or not.
Yeah, I don't want to spoil.
I don't want to spoil it.
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But we'll see. But we'll have something up.
It's cool. And then I think we've mapped out everything for at least half of the year.
So we have we have really good, at least to me, I think the good topics coming up for the foreseeable future.
And as always, guys, let us know if you want something.
Yeah, exactly.
Our first people you guys want us to bring in.
Hey, we could do it.
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Yeah. Interviews.
Yeah. Because there's a couple of people already mentioned we want to talk with.
Yeah, we just got it's hard to get scheduling right.
You know, that's another thing.
And then, you know, if they're international people, it's even harder to get scheduling.
You know, so tune in.
You know, you never know who will be on the on the show next.
So yeah, man, thanks for listening.
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Watch out for the killer in the black gloves.
There's a killer on the loose.
I'm going to be on the show.
Hey, man, don't grab my tepals.
Hey, man, don't grab them.
No, it's just pure intention.
One, two, three.
(01:20:58):
Hey, man.
Don't pull the chain.
Hey, man, don't grab the walls.
Hey, man, don't grab the walls.
Don't be an asshole. Come here. I'll show you how.
Let's see.
Do I help you?
Yeah, put it back.
You're a good boy.
Yeah.
One.
Uh-huh.
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Two.
Three.
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