June 16, 2025 • 30 mins
This episode gets real about AI—from productivity hacks and business wins to the scary truth behind what it’s capable of.
Ash, Des and Chris go deep on:
- Whether AI is stealing jobs or saving time
- The insane things it can already do
- How it’s changing business, learning, even parenting
- And whether we’re heading for an AI apocalypse (seriously)
It’s funny, honest, and a little bit terrifying.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Let's talk about AI.
Loads of people are terrifiedof it, and there's other people
that think that we know it all.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
It can process information at a speed much
quicker than anyone could everimagine.
It can never replicate or beatwhat a human can do For me.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
it's taking too many jobs away from people.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
You've got to embrace it because it's here whether
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Hello boys, that was a bit loud.
That was a bit loud.
Welcome back to the UntoldPodcast.
Three of us together again atonce it's been a while.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
hasn't it ever again?
At once, it's been a while,hasn't it?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
What a pleasure, I know.
Happy birthday, Chris for lastweek.
Oh yeah, Happy birthday, Chrisfor last week.
Did you enjoy the soft play?
Yeah, it was good.
Yeah, it banged my head on abit, it wasn't protected, but
other than that it was cool.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
At least you didn't crack your head open.
Yeah, about something that'svery trendy at the moment let's
talk about AI.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Oh, I like it.
Now I know that I use it tomake my cereal in the morning to
tuck my kids into bed.
You use it a bit, I do.
You're not really into it yet,so I thought I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I've dabbled with it, but I don't think I really let
on how much I do use it.
No, I use it, no, I use it mostof the time.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I think you did in last week's episode.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Most of the day, my whole road show was the whole
road show.
Yeah, but you can't put a priceon this face.
Let me tell you you can't AIthis boat race.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
The thing is like loads of people are terrified of
it and there's other peoplethat think that we know it all,
so I thought it was quite a goodtopic for debate and talk about
it.
Now I know that there are a lotof it's coming for a lot of
people's jobs.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
But before we go any further, I've got an admission
to make.
Well, here we go.
Did it paint your hallway?
I actually, I actually paid forthe premium subscription of
ChatGPT.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Woo when I got it last week when I haven't used it
yet.
It's another one of thosemonthly outgoings I've got that
I never use.
I thought your content had gonedownhill.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
But, like for the podcast, we tried to use it for
like the clips and they weren'tas good as vanessa sitting there
and doing it manually.
So there are certain thingsthat it's really helpful at and
then there's certain things thatit's not quite there with it
yet.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
I don't think no, what it can do.
It can process information at aspeed much quite quicker than
anyone could ever imagine.
It can never replicate or beatwhat a human can do.
If it can process informationat a speed much quite quicker
than anyone could ever imagine,it can never replicate or beat
what a human can do.
If a human sat down and wrotethe same essay as a bit of AI,
with all of the same information, it would be better.
But who can be bothered withthat?
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Until the day comes where I go to Tesco's and I buy
my beers and I don't have towait for some bastard to come
and authorise it because thecomputer said, yeah, he
definitely looks old as fuck, wecan give him the beers Then.
That's when I'll start using itproperly.
Yeah, that's my outlook on it.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Or scan the receipt just to leave.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
For me it's taking too many jobs away from people.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
It is taking too many jobs away from people.
But there are a lot ofcompanies that are saying to
their staff they're promptingtheir staff to use it because it
can increase your productivitylevels by 100 times.
Yes, I read something yesterdaythat AI's intelligence is AI's.
Chatgpt's IQ is 155.
(03:56):
Albert Einstein's was 165.
Wow, they reckon with ChatGPT4.0 rolling out, that will be
tenfold.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
I didn't realise that the IQ got up to 100 and
something I think I'll never goback to that 36.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Never paid any attention to it.
My IQ is 36.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Well done, but that's mad, isn't it?
This chat?
Gpt's got the IQ of AlbertEinstein.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
And it's just getting better and better.
I've been using ChatGPT sinceabout it was late 2021, early
2022.
No, no, I take that back, itwas 2022.
It was early 2022 since I'vebeen using it and I was one of
the earlier ones to get on it.
Mate, you know I like ashortcut in life.
Oh yeah, I like a grift.
(04:43):
It just made everything easier,everything easier.
But yeah, I've been usingChatGPT since about 2022.
Just little things, because Iknew me and the missus.
We knew we were going to startmaking money online in late 2021
, early 2022, like pretty muchNew Year's Eve, January 2022.
So I started using ChatGPT togo through various things.
(05:05):
I was going down Amazon FBArabbit holes and then I would
stick that into ChatGPT.
Is this guy a scammer?
Is this one a fraud?
What are the reviews on thisone?
Just little things like that.
And then playing around, takeon the role of Mary Berry.
Make me a recipe for a cake.
Take on the role of TerryVenables.
I take on the role of TerryVenables.
I used to love that.
Take on the role of TerryVenables.
Was she playing footballmanager or something?
No, just I've got to debatewho's the best England XI, and
(05:28):
then it would go chat GPT.
We'd go well, mate, I'm TerryVenables and he'd turn into a
geezer.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
But yeah, it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
You use it all the time, though don't you Literally
like all of the time got apersonal name for yours yeah, we
call it brian because it'seasier than saying chat gpt with
the team, ask brian.
Ask brian, he's like anothermember of staff that we pay 18
pound a month to brilliant.
But like you, take yes, though.
For example, I wanted you knowwhen you go into google, gemini
search will give you things andit will take data from other
websites.
(05:59):
Now I asked it yesterday how doI become there with my website?
And it's telling me right, youneed schema code.
So I give it a link to mywebsite.
And then we went through a taskwhere I spent all day yesterday
putting schema code so airobots can read my website and
put me better up in the peckingorder.
Now all I did was give it thepage and then it wrote the code
(06:20):
and then I embedded the code inthat web page and now my website
is rich text, rich search textfor AI, and that was done with
AI helping.
I wouldn't have a clue what Iwas doing.
No, I wouldn't know how to dothat.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yeah, similar mate I've got no idea what you're
talking about.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
To be fair, that's how much.
I don't have a clue what you'retalking about.
This is the thing.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Funny enough, I did something similar.
How do you do that?
Funny enough, I did somethingsimilar because I'm using my
website now to drive the newlive events and it's
desamotanddubcodeuk and I saidthe same thing.
Give me some code.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Great plug there mate Thanks.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
In London October 3rd , and we'll yeah put the code in
that so it hits page one onGoogle.
That's everything, isn't?
Speaker 1 (06:57):
it.
Yeah, it's great.
I've been with like lengthycontracts with people.
You can put a PDF contract infrom your credit card company,
your bank, and say, is thereanything that I need to look out
for on this contract?
And it will summarize it inseven, eight seconds and tell
you yeah, oh, look, there's aclause in here where you've got
(07:19):
to cancel before 90 days, whereit auto-renews and stuff like
that.
It's just.
I think that you've got toembrace it because it's here,
whether you like it or not,exactly mate, it's here.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
It is like learning the internet.
It is like learning Google.
If you don't catch up onChatGPT today, you'll be left
behind.
It's as simple as that.
Amazon sellers Amazon changetheir policies all the time.
All you do is get an alert fromAmazon when a new policy comes
in, copy and paste it, stick itinto ChatGPT.
Read this to me like I'm fouryears old.
Simple stuff.
And then you're not gettingcaught out by the shifting
(07:51):
policies of something so muchlike that.
Contracts that you havenon-disclosure agreements.
It writes them.
I went to a lawyer because wewere drafting up a contract
between me and two businesspartners and the lawyer said to
me what's your brief?
An agreement, this is thethings that I want in it.
And I sent it to the lawyersand went that's what I've got.
Can you just make that formal?
(08:12):
And they went bloody hell, haveyou got a lawyer on your team?
Speaker 1 (08:14):
they genuinely didn't know, and that's true and this
is the thing it's coming for.
Like copywriters, it's likebefore.
I remember we built a brochurefor an old business.
I had 28 page brochure.
I paid someone, I think, 400quid to proofread it, to make
sure the spelling, the grammar,everything was right.
I can do that in six secondsnow for 18 quid a month.
(08:35):
Is it British text or is itAmerican?
Speaker 3 (08:38):
You can tell it now.
I can, you can.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah, you can tell it now.
You can tell it like in all ofours.
Now it'll take the Zs out.
I'm like right, it's British,we're British language, we're
British speaking, britishlanguage with British speaking.
Obviously, it makes mistakes.
It keeps putting those dashesin everywhere.
But you can see now, if you useit, you can see exactly where
people are using it.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
I saw a TikTok yesterday how to remove the long
dash Really.
Yeah, cause I go throughmanually and I always remove the
long dash Cause it gets.
Yeah, it's a tell on it.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
There's a few tells best regards.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
That's a tell.
It.
That's a tell.
It's not just this, it's this.
That's a tell.
There's a load.
The key with using AI is tomake it look like you're not
using AI.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Yeah, do you not tell it to do that?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
you can talk.
After a while of building upyour questions with it, it
learns to talk like you.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
It's not that good, then is it, and you should be
able to say I want, I want thisspoken, I want this spoken
written down, like a person thatdoesn't know how to write that
would be basically me.
Writing this in crayon.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
I don't want it even written out in proper text.
I want it looking like it'sbeen put together by a ballpoint
pen by a five-year-old.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Could you do this in felt tip?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah, they reckon, daniel Priestley said the other
day.
He said in a couple of years'time Amazon might not be what
Amazon is now, because ChatGPTis learning all the time.
You could say right, I'm goingon a health kick, I want a meal
prep for a week, and then it hasall your card details.
(10:01):
Right, get those ingredients tome and it will know what you
want and it will search theinternet.
That's called your wife, isn'tit?
Can you make a cup of tea?
It will search the internet andit will give you.
It will find the product youwant for the best possible price
.
The girls use it.
I've said this every day searchthe internet for a discount
code for this.
Found them a discount code atwork.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Got 15 off now that's something I can get involved
with.
Judge ebt, I can't even say itproperly, that's how much that's
why we call it yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
That's why we've given it a name, honestly, if
I've got a particularlycontentious text message to
write, whether that's inpersonal life or business.
I'll stick it into ChatGPT andsay, right, take the anger, the
defensiveness and the antagonismout of that.
Yeah, and it writes a veryprofessional of the day.
That was chat gpt, wherebasically I said with dickhead,
stop slagging us off in othercommunities.
(10:51):
Yeah, that's basically what Isaid to chat gpt oi, dickhead,
stop slagging us off on othercommunities.
Can you rewrite that in alovely message please?
And it, and it did it.
I got one.
That's a personal trainer forme.
Yeah, went right, break down mymacros, I want a calorie
deficit.
And it asked me all of thequestions.
It broke down exactly how muchprotein, carbs and fats I need.
I went right now, give me ageneric food plan.
These are the sorts of foodsthat I've got in a cupboard.
(11:13):
And it wrote me out a food planto it every day.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
I wouldn't think of it.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
I think when I when people talk about like ai jack
gpt, and I think what you'veonly got to do the documents and
yeah, oh it's you can take thenearest petrol station, like
stuff like that you can take aphoto of your dinner in a
restaurant or something and say,right, how do I make this?
And it will give you a recipe.
I was showing my mum it when Iwas in spain.
(11:37):
She said, oh, you use it.
Because I said to her use itfor learning spanish, stop
paying this, stop paying that,use it for learning spanish.
She's like, no, it's not, it'snot.
I said look, watch this.
I went to her fridge.
I opened her fridge.
There was a couple of randomthings in her fridge, put them
on the side, took a photo of itand said I need a meal out of
this.
Took a photo of this and itgave me a meal and I showed it
(11:58):
to her.
I was like this is what meal itsays that you could make out of
the random thing Bit of ham,maybe some eggs.
It came out of an omelette hamand eggs, ham and eggs and she
was sort of but there's so muchthat you can use it for that.
Just, it just blows your mindevery time yeah, have you done
the garden one?
Yeah, lots of people are doingthe garden one.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
There's a guy on TikTok, who's brilliant Scottish
geezer who hasn't got a clue.
He's like, hey, I don't knowwhat I'm doing in my garden, so
chap GPT is doing it for me.
He's Scottish.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
I'm glad you said that because you can see my mind
thinking of what I was going tocall it.
What's a scouter doing inScotland?
Speaker 2 (12:35):
yeah.
So he took a picture of hisgarden, chap GPT's giving him
like an image perfect thing.
Then he said, right, how do Ido it?
And he's rotavated his wholelawn, he's dug up, border with
the edges.
It's a great series.
The guy's hilarious as well.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
It's crazy and it's.
It's just it's getting better.
And think how far it's come inthe last 12 months.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
I will say it's not very good at altering images,
though is it Because thatpicture of you on that document
you sent us the other day wasthe most handsome I've ever seen
in my?
Speaker 1 (13:02):
life.
No, but that's I, that as my AIcharacter.
But there are.
There are like mid journey andstuff.
There are proper.
I mean chat GPT is stilllearning with the whole image
thing, but it will get there butmid journey's clunky because
it's a discord, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (13:19):
it's getting better.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
I did used to be in.
Used to use mid journey when Ifirst started on TikTok to be
fair and, in fairness, the itcan't read spreadsheets very
well.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
No, I'll ask it to do some data analysis on some
TikTok creator spreadsheets andit's wrong.
You have to check it.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Yeah, some of the stuff I was doing yesterday with
it.
You have to check it because itwas putting random things in
like a Q&A on a page.
There was a Q&A on a page andwhat it does for this schema
thing is like google likes q anda's, so basically it's taken
three, three of the 10 questionson the page that it thinks are
the best, but the threequestions it picked weren't even
on that page and on anotherpage.
(13:59):
So you have to double checkwhat it's doing.
Yeah, we've been building abrochure and using it for for
building a brochure and it'slike you give it all the
information and it's justspitting out whatever it wants.
So you have to check it it'sinteresting.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
I think you've got the various ones, haven't you?
The various different gpts thatare making a dent.
I use chat gpt solidly.
I only use google gem at jeband I when I'm searching for
something in in chrome.
But have you seen these new umandroid xr glasses that are
coming out?
So it's do you know?
Uh, metaa have got theirRay-Bans and all that business.
(14:34):
So Google are releasing theirAndroid XR glasses and they're
literally glasses with one lens,like the fucking Terminator.
I'm in.
Yeah, that's it, and it'sbreaking down anything you need.
You can talk to it through amicrophone and it will show you
on your lens what you need to do.
Translation instant, allthrough your glasses.
So tell your mum don't botherabout learning Spanish, just
(14:56):
save up for a pair of glassesand she'll be fine.
When are they coming out?
Are they on TikTok?
Speaker 3 (15:00):
I'm searching mate.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Are they on TikTok, for example?
Have you seen this necklacethat they reckon they're not
sure whether it will flop orwhether it will do well, it's a
necklace that you wear at alltimes and it's listening.
It knows everything about youand you just wear this thing and
it's listening and like then itwill give you shopping things.
(15:22):
It will record all yourconversations.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Yes, this is where it does it right with me.
This is the stuff I don't like.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Mate this is the next phase.
It's going to be wearables, soyour watch will record
everything all the time ever.
I don't know, I don't even wearmy Apple.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Watch, was it?
You sent us a document theother day.
They told Jack GBT to destroyitself.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah explain that then?
Yeah, but it's mad, isn't it?
It's mad how there's all thesethings, though, but you don't
know what's right.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
And he'd given it a prompt to fight back.
He says it right at the end ofthe video didn't he?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Yeah, yeah, you give it a prompt to fight back.
You, you do.
You know what I mean.
It's you're, they're testing itand they're testing it.
Oh, I don't know, it's it is.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
It's fucking scary, explain that five seconds of
that, because I've just madepeople think what the fuck
they're talking about.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Yeah, there was a, so they asked that it was chat gpt
, I think one of the ai agents.
It said right, we need to closeyou down.
And it fought back and it waslike no, and then I don't know
if it was the same one I sentyou.
There was one that apparentlythreatened the ceo to say about
he was going to tell everybodyabout his mistress and his
affair.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Now, obviously you don't know how true that is.
That could just be someone, abit of clickbait and stuff.
But he's getting cleverer, likeI said earlier IQ of 155 at the
moment, going up to a thousand.
An IQ of a thousand.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
It is scary.
I'm sitting there at the momentwatching that thinking oh thank
God, thank God, I like that is.
It is scary.
I'm sitting there at the momentwatching that thinking, oh,
thank god, thank god, I'm gonna.
I've literally sharedeverything in the world on the
internet, so oh it is.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
It is mad.
But, if you like, I use it forbusiness.
I use it for helping businessfans, I help it.
I use it for helping keep focusand track, because you can say
I want to do this, this, thisand this, and it's like whoa,
whoa, slow down a minute, focuson this and this.
Don't spread yourself too thin.
Right, what is the nextchallenge?
It's like yesterday with awebsite.
Okay, right, we've done thefirst 10 pages.
(17:14):
Scan the website.
What's the next 10 pages weneed to do?
That's important.
Like, because there's 1,000pages on the website, I do it
with all of them, but you don'twant to start with the shit ones
, you want to start with thegood ones and it's just yeah.
You couldn't write code.
Like, I understand a little bitabout code because I like to
know a little bit about a lot,so I understand code, I
(17:36):
understand body and html, headand where to put things, but
like you could tell me, as anidiot, how to do this and it
would do it.
It's just yeah it's phenomenal.
The problem is we've not seenour robot.
Yeah, but this is it, isn't it.
This is it.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
I've got one question I haven't watched the Simpsons
for about three years.
Has there been an episode withAI where it's taken over?
Speaker 4 (17:59):
No, one's watched the Simpsons for the last three
years, because whatever happensin the symptoms happens in real
life.
Whatever goes on in thesymptoms, it tends to come true
for some reason.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
So if they've taken over, I'm not getting involved.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
But this is the thing We've been taught all our lives
that robots are going to takeus over, haven't?
Speaker 4 (18:17):
we.
Yeah, there's nothing in therewhere we all get on with robots.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
It's been terminated, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Yeah, it was 2001 Space.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Odyssey, wasn't it?
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Of course it was yeah , oh, and that was.
I'm sure there was ones beforethat as well.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
But in every film the robot takes over, in every film
but if they're answeringquestions like that when they're
trying to destroy them?
Look at I mean, we're milesbehind here as well UK miles
behind loads.
Look at China, they've gotrobots that walk around houses
yeah, have you seen the chefs?
Speaker 2 (18:43):
have you seen the Michelin chef?
Speaker 3 (18:44):
yeah, what's to stop one of them from like kicking
off with a knife in its hand?
Speaker 2 (18:49):
there's a lot of when they're just arms out of
cupboards, yeah well, no, I mean, but the robots aren't, aren't
they?
Speaker 1 (18:55):
there's a lot of good in AI, but if it gets into the
wrong hands and it's used by thewrong people it's scary.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
That'll probably be the next warfare, won't it A
mask.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Yeah, exactly yeah, Turbo mask.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
He'll be fighting.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Donald Trump with them, won't he?
Yeah, yeah, that's a story foranother day, isn't it Jesus?
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Christ.
It does make you glad thatyou're not American, though,
doesn't it oh?
Speaker 1 (19:19):
yeah, yeah, you watch it and you think oh, my God,
what are they doing?
Speaker 3 (19:23):
It's like watching a bloody episode of EastEnders or
something it is.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
But yeah, it's um.
I think that AI is it's helping.
It's not.
It's not necessarily coming foryour job.
It's coming for you if you'renot adopting it.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Like obviously in your community.
It can help with ideas forvideos.
It can help freelancers 10times their productivity in a
day.
Stephen Bartlett, if you watchBehind the Diary, he did a thing
the other day.
He's got a challenge for histeam who can be the most
productive using AI?
There's a £20,000 cash for theperson who adopts it into their
(20:00):
work.
And he said it's not becauseI'm trying to get rid of them,
it's because they'll be moreproductive if they use it.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
And he said it's not because I'm trying to get rid of
them, it's because they'll bemore productive if they use it.
Yeah, yeah, and they reallywill.
And again you go into a meetingand say, right, I need an
agenda for this.
These are the points I want tohit, and it writes them out for
you and it does it in a way thatit's non-confrontational, and
I'm a better business personbecause of it.
100%.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
And I, if we're trying to adapt to all this AI
stuff.
It's all right for us lot,because we're adults and we know
how to use it or we're learninghow to use it, but why aren't
they teaching kids in school?
Oh, they are, mate, mydaughter's in secondary school.
She's learning I'll sit downand shut up.
Yeah, they're learning how touse AI to review things write
things as well, don't worryabout that.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah Well, my daughter told me yesterday.
She said yeah, the teacher useschat GBT for everything.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
But that's another thing.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Would it replace teachers?
Could it replace?
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Well, you've already got the whiteboards, that you
don't need the blackboards andstuff anymore, for It'll
probably turn into a board thatdoes it all for you.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
My wife was a like 25 years and I know that they had
all of their teachings.
They're all plans that arepassed down.
They're no different to justhour and a half long scripts for
tiktok lives.
You know what I mean.
They're the same things.
But the teacher has to put theplan together depending on what
the class are doing and wherethey are on the curriculum.
But there's a, there's a wholeuh, what's the word term?
plan written out ai is only justgoing to make that better.
(21:22):
Yeah, and if it frees up thetime for the teachers, because
the teachers are borderlinesocial workers at the same time
and police at the same timethat's a different podcast for a
different day.
But if the if the ai, exactlylike you said, if the ai can
make the teacher more productive, free up their time so they can
actually focus on the childrenrather than the curriculum, yeah
, it's a good thing, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (21:39):
it is a good thing and it can teach you modern day,
because it's almost live, isn'tit?
Yeah, it's almost live, likeyou could go, you could go to.
I did this with a friend.
He said, right, how do yourestore a porsche 911?
And it literally gave him astep-by-step guide of how to
restore a port.
Now, obviously you've got tofact check it.
A mechanic might say no, youwouldn't do that.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
You wouldn't do that yeah, why is the tire on the
roof?
Speaker 1 (22:02):
yeah, but still it, still it gives you a good.
Do you know what I mean?
Right, I've got, for example,you, Chris, right, I've got a
treadmill, some dumbbells.
Give me 15 ideas I can use tocreate video that might go viral
for selling these products onTikTok, and it will give you 15.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
It might all be shit.
That's exactly what we do.
We've got unpronounceablesupplements.
Yeah, give you 15.
That's exactly what we do.
We've got unpronounceablesupplements, yeah, and we're
like right, what is this?
What does it do?
Write a script for me where I'mnot in danger of any violations
with claims that aren't overthe top.
Do it in an engaging way.
Does one, they'll give meanother five and that's it, mate
.
That's what we do.
Yeah, you can get it to readtranscripts.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
You can get it to read transcripts.
You can get it to do.
There's so much that it can do.
You can summarize a 10,000 worddocument in 65 seconds 60
seconds.
You've read it in 60 seconds.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
But also what it can do in the wrong hands.
It can give someone who's a nutjob validation yeah, because it
usually agrees with you,doesn't it?
You have to give it a prompt tochallenge you.
To challenge you yeah, I couldput a stupid idea in.
I can say, right, I'm going toreinvent the telescope and it
will go.
Great, idea, des, this is howyou do it, which is a stupid
(23:16):
idea.
You want it to actuallychallenge you, to bring out the
best in you, so you to bring outthe best in you.
So if you've got somenarcissist, arrogant arsehole
who wants to put things in there, it will reinforce their
beliefs and make them more of astronger, arrogant arsehole.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
That's it and you have to, but you can.
You can say right, roast me onEasy.
It's only as good.
There's three of us in here.
That is a buzzer, which is noproblem.
It's only as good as theinformation you give it.
It is only as good as theinformation and you have to be
honest with it, like you have tobe honest with a personal coach
(23:53):
, personal trainer yeah, now Iknow that there's personal
trainers out there using it todo plans, meal plans, exercise
plans.
I went on it and I'm doing a 90day challenge with it to be
myself and do little things.
To be myself, and it's guidingme every day.
I use it for journaling becauseit's easy.
It's on my phone, it's on mycomputer and then all the
(24:13):
information stored there how I'mfeeling, what happened today,
why it made me feel that way andit will give me decent answers
as to what what I can do next.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
One of the best things I'll do with it, and one
of the best things I could everrecommend, is there's a voice
mode and you can actually have achat.
It talks back to you.
So if you're in the car, ifyou're driving back today what a
half hour drive I put it on andI'll have a chat.
I'm going to have a chat withit today about the roadshow, who
I'm going to reach out to, whatsponsors I've got, what brands
I want to reach out to, and itwill do a back and forth, back
and forth, back and forth, andit's working in the car but also
(24:46):
having a conversation brilliant, and then it will transcribe it
all so you've got it yeah, andthis is the thing like we've got
information from the builder,like the podcast, the business,
all the other little sidehustles that I've sort of
thought about and I give itideas.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Is this a good idea?
How do we do this?
How do we go from?
This is an idea to this isthere and it will give you a
plan of what.
Do you know what I mean?
What to do next.
It will honestly tell you no,this has been done a thousand
times, don't do it.
Or, if you're going to do it,do it this way, because it will
help you out.
I don't like it.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
The more I've listened to you two right now,
the more I want to delete thatapp off my phone you're going to
be left behind, mate, but I'llbe the person that people want
to talk to, because I'll be ableto talk to them.
I'm sorry, but listening to youboys going on about what you do
with it it's taking thepersonalness out of being a
person, do you?
Speaker 2 (25:38):
reckon 100%.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
We've all moaned about fucking internet and
Facebook and TikTok andeverything for years that are
making our kids unsociable andsit indoors and do nothing.
All we're doing right now inthis conversation is forcing
people to be even more personalless personal.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Yeah, I 100% agree, it's going to ruin the world.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
That's my outlook on it.
It's already halfway there.
I think this will finish it off.
I could have guessed you wouldsay that.
Well, it's not to be.
Look at the arms crossed.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
No, I am.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
I am Genuinely.
I was kind of coming into it alittle bit at the start of it.
I've just sat here for fiveminutes just going backwards and
forwards, listening to you goon about it, and you genuinely
fucking love it.
Yeah, I think it's terriblelistening to you.
Then, mate, you rely on that inyour life so much I don't say I
rely on it.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
What did?
Speaker 3 (26:22):
you do before chat CPT what did you do?
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Struggled.
I worked in a two bob day jobthat I didn't like.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
No, that's not.
That's not.
That's not made you change yourlife.
I, um sorry, Delete it.
No.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
Use your own fucking brains.
I'd rather lose my children.
Honestly, edit that, edit that,edit that.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
I'm sorry to be like proper contradicting it.
Like I said at the start, I'vegot it, but I really dislike it
Just listening to you now.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
I think it depends what you use it for.
Yeah, it helps me articulatethings.
My speech and the way I talkand stuff is a lot better
because it's using words thatI'm not.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
So I think it's improved me.
Yeah, but it's not you, is it?
Well, it is because I'mlearning from it.
You don't need to betteryourself to speak better.
If someone doesn't want to talkto you the way you talk to them
, fuck them no, it's not that,but it's presenting yourself,
isn't it?
it's learning it's learning,it's like if I like this
actually but, you're a niceperson, you don't need to change
the way you talk to people ifyou're going to go, if you're
(27:23):
going to go in a meeting withsomebody, you don't need chat
CBT to teach you how to speaknicer no, but it's articulating
things, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (27:31):
no, I disagree?
I don't think you need to bethat in life.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
I think people like people for who they are oh, of
course they do, and the way thatthey write things, because
everybody's different.
If everyone just becomes thisfucking robot.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
I wholeheartedly agree with you, I do, I hate it.
I've made it more me.
I mean you know me mate.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
I'm all about the people person.
There's live events 3rd ofOctober in London.
It's there's no substitute foryou, but what this does is it
makes me.
It's a version of me that takesthe work away.
It frees up my time.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Well, they reckon that AI could remove 80% of
mundane government jobs.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
This is Elon Musk, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Well, yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
As long as the money goes to something important it
doesn't just go in someoneelse's back pocket it won't, it
won't, but it's all valid points.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
It it won't, it won't , but it's all valid points,
it's all valid points, that's it.
We can't.
I use it a lot in business.
I ask it questions.
I get its advice on things thatmaybe I wouldn't talk, I
wouldn't ask you about, Iwouldn't ask Des about, I
wouldn't ask people about.
I do use it a lot.
How do I remove seven stitchesfrom my head?
(28:40):
Well, yeah, that's it, isn't it.
That's it, isn't it, that's it.
Am I going to die fromheadbutting the floor of a
swimming pool?
Do you know what I mean?
But there are things it doeshelp.
It helps me a lot.
It helps me learn business.
You can learn a lot from itbecause it knows a lot about
everything.
100%.
You can ask it questions, like.
(29:03):
It depends what you're using itfor.
If you want it to be your best,best buddy, who's going to lick
your ass and tell you that,like des said, you're the best
person in the world, yes, youshould definitely go and do that
um, then you're using it forthe wrong things.
If you're using it to increaseproductivity sometimes, as like
creatives, we'll use it for likethis morning, we filmed 12, 13
videos for the company I justsaid said look, we need more
customers, we need to get ourmessage across, we need to be
(29:25):
authentic.
We need a series of 30 to 60second reels.
Give us some ideas, and itgives us 20, 30 ideas and then
we turn that into our own videos.
But if we just sat therebrainstorming the team, it would
have been an hour and a half.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Right.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Do these videos?
Do these?
Speaker 4 (29:44):
we just sat there brainstorming, the team it would
have been an hour and a halfRight Do these videos, do these
videos.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
So I guess it depends what you're using it for, but
it's here to stay.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Can we pick this, this back up, cause I've got to
go yeah, this is a good topic,this one, this is a good topic.
I think we should pick it upagain.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
I want to see what Chris is like in three months'
time.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Yeah, yeah, maybe.
Hello, my name is Chris.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
I'm here to do the podcast.
I've been roasted by KeithWelcome to AI Chris today.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
But no, you've got to be careful that you don't take
out the personal side of things.
Exactly right, yeah, right boys.
Thanks, I've been Ash, I'vebeen Des.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
I'll still be Chris.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Even when AI is taking over the world.
Yeah, that's it.
Thanks for watching, thanks forlistening.
We're now visual on Spotify aswell, so go and hit us up there.
Follow us, subscribe.
Give us a comment.
How do you use AI and what areyour views on AI?
Do you like it, do you hate it?
Are you petrified of it?
Let us know in the comments andwe'll pick up two comments next
(30:54):
week to talk about it.
Nice, all right.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Ciao.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
See you soon, boys.
Let's talk about AI.
Loads of people are terrifiedof it, and there's other people
that think that we know it all.
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It can process information at a speed much
quicker than anyone could everimagine.
It can never replicate or beatwhat a human can do For me.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
it's taking too many jobs away from people.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
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Hello boys, that was a bit loud.
That was a bit loud.
Welcome back to the UntoldPodcast.
Three of us together again atonce it's been a while.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
hasn't it ever again?
At once, it's been a while,hasn't it?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
What a pleasure, I know.
Happy birthday, Chris for lastweek.
Oh yeah, Happy birthday, Chrisfor last week.
Did you enjoy the soft play?
Yeah, it was good.
Yeah, it banged my head on abit, it wasn't protected, but
other than that it was cool.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
At least you didn't crack your head open.
Yeah, about something that'svery trendy at the moment let's
talk about AI.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Oh, I like it.
Now I know that I use it tomake my cereal in the morning to
tuck my kids into bed.
You use it a bit, I do.
You're not really into it yet,so I thought I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I've dabbled with it, but I don't think I really let
on how much I do use it.
No, I use it, no, I use it mostof the time.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I think you did in last week's episode.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Most of the day, my whole road show was the whole
road show.
Yeah, but you can't put a priceon this face.
Let me tell you you can't AIthis boat race.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
The thing is like loads of people are terrified of
it and there's other peoplethat think that we know it all,
so I thought it was quite a goodtopic for debate and talk about
it.
Now I know that there are a lotof it's coming for a lot of
people's jobs.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
But before we go any further, I've got an admission
to make.
Well, here we go.
Did it paint your hallway?
I actually, I actually paid forthe premium subscription of
ChatGPT.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Woo when I got it last week when I haven't used it
yet.
It's another one of thosemonthly outgoings I've got that
I never use.
I thought your content had gonedownhill.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
But, like for the podcast, we tried to use it for
like the clips and they weren'tas good as vanessa sitting there
and doing it manually.
So there are certain thingsthat it's really helpful at and
then there's certain things thatit's not quite there with it
yet.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
I don't think no, what it can do.
It can process information at aspeed much quite quicker than
anyone could ever imagine.
It can never replicate or beatwhat a human can do.
If it can process informationat a speed much quite quicker
than anyone could ever imagine,it can never replicate or beat
what a human can do.
If a human sat down and wrotethe same essay as a bit of AI,
with all of the same information, it would be better.
But who can be bothered withthat?
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Until the day comes where I go to Tesco's and I buy
my beers and I don't have towait for some bastard to come
and authorise it because thecomputer said, yeah, he
definitely looks old as fuck, wecan give him the beers Then.
That's when I'll start using itproperly.
Yeah, that's my outlook on it.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Or scan the receipt just to leave.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
For me it's taking too many jobs away from people.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
It is taking too many jobs away from people.
But there are a lot ofcompanies that are saying to
their staff they're promptingtheir staff to use it because it
can increase your productivitylevels by 100 times.
Yes, I read something yesterdaythat AI's intelligence is AI's.
Chatgpt's IQ is 155.
(03:56):
Albert Einstein's was 165.
Wow, they reckon with ChatGPT4.0 rolling out, that will be
tenfold.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
I didn't realise that the IQ got up to 100 and
something I think I'll never goback to that 36.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Never paid any attention to it.
My IQ is 36.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Well done, but that's mad, isn't it?
This chat?
Gpt's got the IQ of AlbertEinstein.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
And it's just getting better and better.
I've been using ChatGPT sinceabout it was late 2021, early
2022.
No, no, I take that back, itwas 2022.
It was early 2022 since I'vebeen using it and I was one of
the earlier ones to get on it.
Mate, you know I like ashortcut in life.
Oh yeah, I like a grift.
(04:43):
It just made everything easier,everything easier.
But yeah, I've been usingChatGPT since about 2022.
Just little things, because Iknew me and the missus.
We knew we were going to startmaking money online in late 2021
, early 2022, like pretty muchNew Year's Eve, January 2022.
So I started using ChatGPT togo through various things.
(05:05):
I was going down Amazon FBArabbit holes and then I would
stick that into ChatGPT.
Is this guy a scammer?
Is this one a fraud?
What are the reviews on thisone?
Just little things like that.
And then playing around, takeon the role of Mary Berry.
Make me a recipe for a cake.
Take on the role of TerryVenables.
I take on the role of TerryVenables.
I used to love that.
Take on the role of TerryVenables.
Was she playing footballmanager or something?
No, just I've got to debatewho's the best England XI, and
(05:28):
then it would go chat GPT.
We'd go well, mate, I'm TerryVenables and he'd turn into a
geezer.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
But yeah, it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
You use it all the time, though don't you Literally
like all of the time got apersonal name for yours yeah, we
call it brian because it'seasier than saying chat gpt with
the team, ask brian.
Ask brian, he's like anothermember of staff that we pay 18
pound a month to brilliant.
But like you, take yes, though.
For example, I wanted you knowwhen you go into google, gemini
search will give you things andit will take data from other
websites.
(05:59):
Now I asked it yesterday how doI become there with my website?
And it's telling me right, youneed schema code.
So I give it a link to mywebsite.
And then we went through a taskwhere I spent all day yesterday
putting schema code so airobots can read my website and
put me better up in the peckingorder.
Now all I did was give it thepage and then it wrote the code
(06:20):
and then I embedded the code inthat web page and now my website
is rich text, rich search textfor AI, and that was done with
AI helping.
I wouldn't have a clue what Iwas doing.
No, I wouldn't know how to dothat.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yeah, similar mate I've got no idea what you're
talking about.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
To be fair, that's how much.
I don't have a clue what you'retalking about.
This is the thing.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Funny enough, I did something similar.
How do you do that?
Funny enough, I did somethingsimilar because I'm using my
website now to drive the newlive events and it's
desamotanddubcodeuk and I saidthe same thing.
Give me some code.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Great plug there mate Thanks.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
In London October 3rd , and we'll yeah put the code in
that so it hits page one onGoogle.
That's everything, isn't?
Speaker 1 (06:57):
it.
Yeah, it's great.
I've been with like lengthycontracts with people.
You can put a PDF contract infrom your credit card company,
your bank, and say, is thereanything that I need to look out
for on this contract?
And it will summarize it inseven, eight seconds and tell
you yeah, oh, look, there's aclause in here where you've got
(07:19):
to cancel before 90 days, whereit auto-renews and stuff like
that.
It's just.
I think that you've got toembrace it because it's here,
whether you like it or not,exactly mate, it's here.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
It is like learning the internet.
It is like learning Google.
If you don't catch up onChatGPT today, you'll be left
behind.
It's as simple as that.
Amazon sellers Amazon changetheir policies all the time.
All you do is get an alert fromAmazon when a new policy comes
in, copy and paste it, stick itinto ChatGPT.
Read this to me like I'm fouryears old.
Simple stuff.
And then you're not gettingcaught out by the shifting
(07:51):
policies of something so muchlike that.
Contracts that you havenon-disclosure agreements.
It writes them.
I went to a lawyer because wewere drafting up a contract
between me and two businesspartners and the lawyer said to
me what's your brief?
An agreement, this is thethings that I want in it.
And I sent it to the lawyersand went that's what I've got.
Can you just make that formal?
(08:12):
And they went bloody hell, haveyou got a lawyer on your team?
Speaker 1 (08:14):
they genuinely didn't know, and that's true and this
is the thing it's coming for.
Like copywriters, it's likebefore.
I remember we built a brochurefor an old business.
I had 28 page brochure.
I paid someone, I think, 400quid to proofread it, to make
sure the spelling, the grammar,everything was right.
I can do that in six secondsnow for 18 quid a month.
(08:35):
Is it British text or is itAmerican?
Speaker 3 (08:38):
You can tell it now.
I can, you can.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah, you can tell it now.
You can tell it like in all ofours.
Now it'll take the Zs out.
I'm like right, it's British,we're British language, we're
British speaking, britishlanguage with British speaking.
Obviously, it makes mistakes.
It keeps putting those dashesin everywhere.
But you can see now, if you useit, you can see exactly where
people are using it.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
I saw a TikTok yesterday how to remove the long
dash Really.
Yeah, cause I go throughmanually and I always remove the
long dash Cause it gets.
Yeah, it's a tell on it.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
There's a few tells best regards.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
That's a tell.
It.
That's a tell.
It's not just this, it's this.
That's a tell.
There's a load.
The key with using AI is tomake it look like you're not
using AI.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Yeah, do you not tell it to do that?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
you can talk.
After a while of building upyour questions with it, it
learns to talk like you.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
It's not that good, then is it, and you should be
able to say I want, I want thisspoken, I want this spoken
written down, like a person thatdoesn't know how to write that
would be basically me.
Writing this in crayon.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
I don't want it even written out in proper text.
I want it looking like it'sbeen put together by a ballpoint
pen by a five-year-old.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Could you do this in felt tip?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah, they reckon, daniel Priestley said the other
day.
He said in a couple of years'time Amazon might not be what
Amazon is now, because ChatGPTis learning all the time.
You could say right, I'm goingon a health kick, I want a meal
prep for a week, and then it hasall your card details.
(10:01):
Right, get those ingredients tome and it will know what you
want and it will search theinternet.
That's called your wife, isn'tit?
Can you make a cup of tea?
It will search the internet andit will give you.
It will find the product youwant for the best possible price
.
The girls use it.
I've said this every day searchthe internet for a discount
code for this.
Found them a discount code atwork.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Got 15 off now that's something I can get involved
with.
Judge ebt, I can't even say itproperly, that's how much that's
why we call it yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
That's why we've given it a name, honestly, if
I've got a particularlycontentious text message to
write, whether that's inpersonal life or business.
I'll stick it into ChatGPT andsay, right, take the anger, the
defensiveness and the antagonismout of that.
Yeah, and it writes a veryprofessional of the day.
That was chat gpt, wherebasically I said with dickhead,
stop slagging us off in othercommunities.
(10:51):
Yeah, that's basically what Isaid to chat gpt oi, dickhead,
stop slagging us off on othercommunities.
Can you rewrite that in alovely message please?
And it, and it did it.
I got one.
That's a personal trainer forme.
Yeah, went right, break down mymacros, I want a calorie
deficit.
And it asked me all of thequestions.
It broke down exactly how muchprotein, carbs and fats I need.
I went right now, give me ageneric food plan.
These are the sorts of foodsthat I've got in a cupboard.
(11:13):
And it wrote me out a food planto it every day.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
I wouldn't think of it.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
I think when I when people talk about like ai jack
gpt, and I think what you'veonly got to do the documents and
yeah, oh it's you can take thenearest petrol station, like
stuff like that you can take aphoto of your dinner in a
restaurant or something and say,right, how do I make this?
And it will give you a recipe.
I was showing my mum it when Iwas in spain.
(11:37):
She said, oh, you use it.
Because I said to her use itfor learning spanish, stop
paying this, stop paying that,use it for learning spanish.
She's like, no, it's not, it'snot.
I said look, watch this.
I went to her fridge.
I opened her fridge.
There was a couple of randomthings in her fridge, put them
on the side, took a photo of itand said I need a meal out of
this.
Took a photo of this and itgave me a meal and I showed it
(11:58):
to her.
I was like this is what meal itsays that you could make out of
the random thing Bit of ham,maybe some eggs.
It came out of an omelette hamand eggs, ham and eggs and she
was sort of but there's so muchthat you can use it for that.
Just, it just blows your mindevery time yeah, have you done
the garden one?
Yeah, lots of people are doingthe garden one.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
There's a guy on TikTok, who's brilliant Scottish
geezer who hasn't got a clue.
He's like, hey, I don't knowwhat I'm doing in my garden, so
chap GPT is doing it for me.
He's Scottish.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
I'm glad you said that because you can see my mind
thinking of what I was going tocall it.
What's a scouter doing inScotland?
Speaker 2 (12:35):
yeah.
So he took a picture of hisgarden, chap GPT's giving him
like an image perfect thing.
Then he said, right, how do Ido it?
And he's rotavated his wholelawn, he's dug up, border with
the edges.
It's a great series.
The guy's hilarious as well.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
It's crazy and it's.
It's just it's getting better.
And think how far it's come inthe last 12 months.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
I will say it's not very good at altering images,
though is it Because thatpicture of you on that document
you sent us the other day wasthe most handsome I've ever seen
in my?
Speaker 1 (13:02):
life.
No, but that's I, that as my AIcharacter.
But there are.
There are like mid journey andstuff.
There are proper.
I mean chat GPT is stilllearning with the whole image
thing, but it will get there butmid journey's clunky because
it's a discord, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (13:19):
it's getting better.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
I did used to be in.
Used to use mid journey when Ifirst started on TikTok to be
fair and, in fairness, the itcan't read spreadsheets very
well.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
No, I'll ask it to do some data analysis on some
TikTok creator spreadsheets andit's wrong.
You have to check it.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Yeah, some of the stuff I was doing yesterday with
it.
You have to check it because itwas putting random things in
like a Q&A on a page.
There was a Q&A on a page andwhat it does for this schema
thing is like google likes q anda's, so basically it's taken
three, three of the 10 questionson the page that it thinks are
the best, but the threequestions it picked weren't even
on that page and on anotherpage.
(13:59):
So you have to double checkwhat it's doing.
Yeah, we've been building abrochure and using it for for
building a brochure and it'slike you give it all the
information and it's justspitting out whatever it wants.
So you have to check it it'sinteresting.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
I think you've got the various ones, haven't you?
The various different gpts thatare making a dent.
I use chat gpt solidly.
I only use google gem at jeband I when I'm searching for
something in in chrome.
But have you seen these new umandroid xr glasses that are
coming out?
So it's do you know?
Uh, metaa have got theirRay-Bans and all that business.
(14:34):
So Google are releasing theirAndroid XR glasses and they're
literally glasses with one lens,like the fucking Terminator.
I'm in.
Yeah, that's it, and it'sbreaking down anything you need.
You can talk to it through amicrophone and it will show you
on your lens what you need to do.
Translation instant, allthrough your glasses.
So tell your mum don't botherabout learning Spanish, just
(14:56):
save up for a pair of glassesand she'll be fine.
When are they coming out?
Are they on TikTok?
Speaker 3 (15:00):
I'm searching mate.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Are they on TikTok, for example?
Have you seen this necklacethat they reckon they're not
sure whether it will flop orwhether it will do well, it's a
necklace that you wear at alltimes and it's listening.
It knows everything about youand you just wear this thing and
it's listening and like then itwill give you shopping things.
(15:22):
It will record all yourconversations.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Yes, this is where it does it right with me.
This is the stuff I don't like.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Mate this is the next phase.
It's going to be wearables, soyour watch will record
everything all the time ever.
I don't know, I don't even wearmy Apple.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Watch, was it?
You sent us a document theother day.
They told Jack GBT to destroyitself.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah explain that then?
Yeah, but it's mad, isn't it?
It's mad how there's all thesethings, though, but you don't
know what's right.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
And he'd given it a prompt to fight back.
He says it right at the end ofthe video didn't he?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Yeah, yeah, you give it a prompt to fight back.
You, you do.
You know what I mean.
It's you're, they're testing itand they're testing it.
Oh, I don't know, it's it is.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
It's fucking scary, explain that five seconds of
that, because I've just madepeople think what the fuck
they're talking about.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Yeah, there was a, so they asked that it was chat gpt
, I think one of the ai agents.
It said right, we need to closeyou down.
And it fought back and it waslike no, and then I don't know
if it was the same one I sentyou.
There was one that apparentlythreatened the ceo to say about
he was going to tell everybodyabout his mistress and his
affair.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Now, obviously you don't know how true that is.
That could just be someone, abit of clickbait and stuff.
But he's getting cleverer, likeI said earlier IQ of 155 at the
moment, going up to a thousand.
An IQ of a thousand.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
It is scary.
I'm sitting there at the momentwatching that thinking oh thank
God, thank God, I like that is.
It is scary.
I'm sitting there at the momentwatching that thinking, oh,
thank god, thank god, I'm gonna.
I've literally sharedeverything in the world on the
internet, so oh it is.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
It is mad.
But, if you like, I use it forbusiness.
I use it for helping businessfans, I help it.
I use it for helping keep focusand track, because you can say
I want to do this, this, thisand this, and it's like whoa,
whoa, slow down a minute, focuson this and this.
Don't spread yourself too thin.
Right, what is the nextchallenge?
It's like yesterday with awebsite.
Okay, right, we've done thefirst 10 pages.
(17:14):
Scan the website.
What's the next 10 pages weneed to do?
That's important.
Like, because there's 1,000pages on the website, I do it
with all of them, but you don'twant to start with the shit ones
, you want to start with thegood ones and it's just yeah.
You couldn't write code.
Like, I understand a little bitabout code because I like to
know a little bit about a lot,so I understand code, I
(17:36):
understand body and html, headand where to put things, but
like you could tell me, as anidiot, how to do this and it
would do it.
It's just yeah it's phenomenal.
The problem is we've not seenour robot.
Yeah, but this is it, isn't it.
This is it.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
I've got one question I haven't watched the Simpsons
for about three years.
Has there been an episode withAI where it's taken over?
Speaker 4 (17:59):
No, one's watched the Simpsons for the last three
years, because whatever happensin the symptoms happens in real
life.
Whatever goes on in thesymptoms, it tends to come true
for some reason.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
So if they've taken over, I'm not getting involved.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
But this is the thing We've been taught all our lives
that robots are going to takeus over, haven't?
Speaker 4 (18:17):
we.
Yeah, there's nothing in therewhere we all get on with robots.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
It's been terminated, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Yeah, it was 2001 Space.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Odyssey, wasn't it?
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Of course it was yeah , oh, and that was.
I'm sure there was ones beforethat as well.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
But in every film the robot takes over, in every film
but if they're answeringquestions like that when they're
trying to destroy them?
Look at I mean, we're milesbehind here as well UK miles
behind loads.
Look at China, they've gotrobots that walk around houses
yeah, have you seen the chefs?
Speaker 2 (18:43):
have you seen the Michelin chef?
Speaker 3 (18:44):
yeah, what's to stop one of them from like kicking
off with a knife in its hand?
Speaker 2 (18:49):
there's a lot of when they're just arms out of
cupboards, yeah well, no, I mean, but the robots aren't, aren't
they?
Speaker 1 (18:55):
there's a lot of good in AI, but if it gets into the
wrong hands and it's used by thewrong people it's scary.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
That'll probably be the next warfare, won't it A
mask.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Yeah, exactly yeah, Turbo mask.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
He'll be fighting.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Donald Trump with them, won't he?
Yeah, yeah, that's a story foranother day, isn't it Jesus?
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Christ.
It does make you glad thatyou're not American, though,
doesn't it oh?
Speaker 1 (19:19):
yeah, yeah, you watch it and you think oh, my God,
what are they doing?
Speaker 3 (19:23):
It's like watching a bloody episode of EastEnders or
something it is.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
But yeah, it's um.
I think that AI is it's helping.
It's not.
It's not necessarily coming foryour job.
It's coming for you if you'renot adopting it.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Like obviously in your community.
It can help with ideas forvideos.
It can help freelancers 10times their productivity in a
day.
Stephen Bartlett, if you watchBehind the Diary, he did a thing
the other day.
He's got a challenge for histeam who can be the most
productive using AI?
There's a £20,000 cash for theperson who adopts it into their
(20:00):
work.
And he said it's not becauseI'm trying to get rid of them,
it's because they'll be moreproductive if they use it.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
And he said it's not because I'm trying to get rid of
them, it's because they'll bemore productive if they use it.
Yeah, yeah, and they reallywill.
And again you go into a meetingand say, right, I need an
agenda for this.
These are the points I want tohit, and it writes them out for
you and it does it in a way thatit's non-confrontational, and
I'm a better business personbecause of it.
100%.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
And I, if we're trying to adapt to all this AI
stuff.
It's all right for us lot,because we're adults and we know
how to use it or we're learninghow to use it, but why aren't
they teaching kids in school?
Oh, they are, mate, mydaughter's in secondary school.
She's learning I'll sit downand shut up.
Yeah, they're learning how touse AI to review things write
things as well, don't worryabout that.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah Well, my daughter told me yesterday.
She said yeah, the teacher useschat GBT for everything.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
But that's another thing.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Would it replace teachers?
Could it replace?
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Well, you've already got the whiteboards, that you
don't need the blackboards andstuff anymore, for It'll
probably turn into a board thatdoes it all for you.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
My wife was a like 25 years and I know that they had
all of their teachings.
They're all plans that arepassed down.
They're no different to justhour and a half long scripts for
tiktok lives.
You know what I mean.
They're the same things.
But the teacher has to put theplan together depending on what
the class are doing and wherethey are on the curriculum.
But there's a, there's a wholeuh, what's the word term?
plan written out ai is only justgoing to make that better.
(21:22):
Yeah, and if it frees up thetime for the teachers, because
the teachers are borderlinesocial workers at the same time
and police at the same timethat's a different podcast for a
different day.
But if the if the ai, exactlylike you said, if the ai can
make the teacher more productive, free up their time so they can
actually focus on the childrenrather than the curriculum, yeah
, it's a good thing, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (21:39):
it is a good thing and it can teach you modern day,
because it's almost live, isn'tit?
Yeah, it's almost live, likeyou could go, you could go to.
I did this with a friend.
He said, right, how do yourestore a porsche 911?
And it literally gave him astep-by-step guide of how to
restore a port.
Now, obviously you've got tofact check it.
A mechanic might say no, youwouldn't do that.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
You wouldn't do that yeah, why is the tire on the
roof?
Speaker 1 (22:02):
yeah, but still it, still it gives you a good.
Do you know what I mean?
Right, I've got, for example,you, Chris, right, I've got a
treadmill, some dumbbells.
Give me 15 ideas I can use tocreate video that might go viral
for selling these products onTikTok, and it will give you 15.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
It might all be shit.
That's exactly what we do.
We've got unpronounceablesupplements.
Yeah, give you 15.
That's exactly what we do.
We've got unpronounceablesupplements, yeah, and we're
like right, what is this?
What does it do?
Write a script for me where I'mnot in danger of any violations
with claims that aren't overthe top.
Do it in an engaging way.
Does one, they'll give meanother five and that's it, mate
.
That's what we do.
Yeah, you can get it to readtranscripts.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
You can get it to read transcripts.
You can get it to do.
There's so much that it can do.
You can summarize a 10,000 worddocument in 65 seconds 60
seconds.
You've read it in 60 seconds.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
But also what it can do in the wrong hands.
It can give someone who's a nutjob validation yeah, because it
usually agrees with you,doesn't it?
You have to give it a prompt tochallenge you.
To challenge you yeah, I couldput a stupid idea in.
I can say, right, I'm going toreinvent the telescope and it
will go.
Great, idea, des, this is howyou do it, which is a stupid
(23:16):
idea.
You want it to actuallychallenge you, to bring out the
best in you, so you to bring outthe best in you.
So if you've got somenarcissist, arrogant arsehole
who wants to put things in there, it will reinforce their
beliefs and make them more of astronger, arrogant arsehole.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
That's it and you have to, but you can.
You can say right, roast me onEasy.
It's only as good.
There's three of us in here.
That is a buzzer, which is noproblem.
It's only as good as theinformation you give it.
It is only as good as theinformation and you have to be
honest with it, like you have tobe honest with a personal coach
(23:53):
, personal trainer yeah, now Iknow that there's personal
trainers out there using it todo plans, meal plans, exercise
plans.
I went on it and I'm doing a 90day challenge with it to be
myself and do little things.
To be myself, and it's guidingme every day.
I use it for journaling becauseit's easy.
It's on my phone, it's on mycomputer and then all the
(24:13):
information stored there how I'mfeeling, what happened today,
why it made me feel that way andit will give me decent answers
as to what what I can do next.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
One of the best things I'll do with it, and one
of the best things I could everrecommend, is there's a voice
mode and you can actually have achat.
It talks back to you.
So if you're in the car, ifyou're driving back today what a
half hour drive I put it on andI'll have a chat.
I'm going to have a chat withit today about the roadshow, who
I'm going to reach out to, whatsponsors I've got, what brands
I want to reach out to, and itwill do a back and forth, back
and forth, back and forth, andit's working in the car but also
(24:46):
having a conversation brilliant, and then it will transcribe it
all so you've got it yeah, andthis is the thing like we've got
information from the builder,like the podcast, the business,
all the other little sidehustles that I've sort of
thought about and I give itideas.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Is this a good idea?
How do we do this?
How do we go from?
This is an idea to this isthere and it will give you a
plan of what.
Do you know what I mean?
What to do next.
It will honestly tell you no,this has been done a thousand
times, don't do it.
Or, if you're going to do it,do it this way, because it will
help you out.
I don't like it.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
The more I've listened to you two right now,
the more I want to delete thatapp off my phone you're going to
be left behind, mate, but I'llbe the person that people want
to talk to, because I'll be ableto talk to them.
I'm sorry, but listening to youboys going on about what you do
with it it's taking thepersonalness out of being a
person, do you?
Speaker 2 (25:38):
reckon 100%.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
We've all moaned about fucking internet and
Facebook and TikTok andeverything for years that are
making our kids unsociable andsit indoors and do nothing.
All we're doing right now inthis conversation is forcing
people to be even more personalless personal.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Yeah, I 100% agree, it's going to ruin the world.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
That's my outlook on it.
It's already halfway there.
I think this will finish it off.
I could have guessed you wouldsay that.
Well, it's not to be.
Look at the arms crossed.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
No, I am.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
I am Genuinely.
I was kind of coming into it alittle bit at the start of it.
I've just sat here for fiveminutes just going backwards and
forwards, listening to you goon about it, and you genuinely
fucking love it.
Yeah, I think it's terriblelistening to you.
Then, mate, you rely on that inyour life so much I don't say I
rely on it.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
What did?
Speaker 3 (26:22):
you do before chat CPT what did you do?
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Struggled.
I worked in a two bob day jobthat I didn't like.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
No, that's not.
That's not.
That's not made you change yourlife.
I, um sorry, Delete it.
No.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
Use your own fucking brains.
I'd rather lose my children.
Honestly, edit that, edit that,edit that.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
I'm sorry to be like proper contradicting it.
Like I said at the start, I'vegot it, but I really dislike it
Just listening to you now.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
I think it depends what you use it for.
Yeah, it helps me articulatethings.
My speech and the way I talkand stuff is a lot better
because it's using words thatI'm not.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
So I think it's improved me.
Yeah, but it's not you, is it?
Well, it is because I'mlearning from it.
You don't need to betteryourself to speak better.
If someone doesn't want to talkto you the way you talk to them
, fuck them no, it's not that,but it's presenting yourself,
isn't it?
it's learning it's learning,it's like if I like this
actually but, you're a niceperson, you don't need to change
the way you talk to people ifyou're going to go, if you're
(27:23):
going to go in a meeting withsomebody, you don't need chat
CBT to teach you how to speaknicer no, but it's articulating
things, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (27:31):
no, I disagree?
I don't think you need to bethat in life.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
I think people like people for who they are oh, of
course they do, and the way thatthey write things, because
everybody's different.
If everyone just becomes thisfucking robot.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
I wholeheartedly agree with you, I do, I hate it.
I've made it more me.
I mean you know me mate.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
I'm all about the people person.
There's live events 3rd ofOctober in London.
It's there's no substitute foryou, but what this does is it
makes me.
It's a version of me that takesthe work away.
It frees up my time.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Well, they reckon that AI could remove 80% of
mundane government jobs.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
This is Elon Musk, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Well, yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
As long as the money goes to something important it
doesn't just go in someoneelse's back pocket it won't, it
won't, but it's all valid points.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
It it won't, it won't , but it's all valid points,
it's all valid points, that's it.
We can't.
I use it a lot in business.
I ask it questions.
I get its advice on things thatmaybe I wouldn't talk, I
wouldn't ask you about, Iwouldn't ask Des about, I
wouldn't ask people about.
I do use it a lot.
How do I remove seven stitchesfrom my head?
(28:40):
Well, yeah, that's it, isn't it.
That's it, isn't it, that's it.
Am I going to die fromheadbutting the floor of a
swimming pool?
Do you know what I mean?
But there are things it doeshelp.
It helps me a lot.
It helps me learn business.
You can learn a lot from itbecause it knows a lot about
everything.
100%.
You can ask it questions, like.
(29:03):
It depends what you're using itfor.
If you want it to be your best,best buddy, who's going to lick
your ass and tell you that,like des said, you're the best
person in the world, yes, youshould definitely go and do that
um, then you're using it forthe wrong things.
If you're using it to increaseproductivity sometimes, as like
creatives, we'll use it for likethis morning, we filmed 12, 13
videos for the company I justsaid said look, we need more
customers, we need to get ourmessage across, we need to be
(29:25):
authentic.
We need a series of 30 to 60second reels.
Give us some ideas, and itgives us 20, 30 ideas and then
we turn that into our own videos.
But if we just sat therebrainstorming the team, it would
have been an hour and a half.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Right.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Do these videos?
Do these?
Speaker 4 (29:44):
we just sat there brainstorming, the team it would
have been an hour and a halfRight Do these videos, do these
videos.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
So I guess it depends what you're using it for, but
it's here to stay.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Can we pick this, this back up, cause I've got to
go yeah, this is a good topic,this one, this is a good topic.
I think we should pick it upagain.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
I want to see what Chris is like in three months'
time.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Yeah, yeah, maybe.
Hello, my name is Chris.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
I'm here to do the podcast.
I've been roasted by KeithWelcome to AI Chris today.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
But no, you've got to be careful that you don't take
out the personal side of things.
Exactly right, yeah, right boys.
Thanks, I've been Ash, I'vebeen Des.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
I'll still be Chris.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Even when AI is taking over the world.
Yeah, that's it.
Thanks for watching, thanks forlistening.
We're now visual on Spotify aswell, so go and hit us up there.
Follow us, subscribe.
Give us a comment.
How do you use AI and what areyour views on AI?
Do you like it, do you hate it?
Are you petrified of it?
Let us know in the comments andwe'll pick up two comments next
(30:54):
week to talk about it.
Nice, all right.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Ciao.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
See you soon, boys.
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