March 31, 2025 • 35 mins
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This one’s for everyone who hates the gym but loves a full English.
In this unfiltered episode of the UNTOLD Podcast, we open up about our complicated relationship with food, fitness, body image, and all the guilt that comes with it.
From binge eating and fad diets to dislocated shoulders and Monjaro injections—we dive deep into the highs and lows of trying (and often failing) to live a healthier life.
No personal trainers. No calorie-counting lectures. Just three normal lads talking honestly about:
🍔 Why food is such a source of joy (and shame)
💪 Why exercise feels like punishment
💉 Real experiences with weight loss injections like Monjaro
⚖️ The pressure to look a certain way
🧠 How food affects our mental health
😂 And why sometimes, you just need to laugh at yourself
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Why is food one of the biggest joys in our life,
but exercise is hated by so manypeople?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
I can't stand the gym .
I can't stand exercise.
I have never been one thatenjoys exercise.
These endorphins that you'remeant to get, where the fuck,
where are they?
Speaker 3 (00:16):
According to the GP, I'm clinically obese and I
shouldn't be alive.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Everyone's on Monjaro at the moment.
I can't think of anything worse.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Everyone's on Manjaro at the moment.
I can't think of anything worse, so I'm going to drop a.
It's not a secret.
I did go on the Manjaro, yeah.
All it did was really suppressmy appetite a little bit, yeah.
And then I skipped a week andliterally, I think within three
or four weeks, all that weight'sjust come straight back.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
When they say food is good for the soul.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
I completely agree with that.
It's good for everything otherthan your health, for it, isn't
it if you as long as you, aslong as you eat healthily,
obviously?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
but you can eat healthy, but the problem with
eating healthy is it's bloodyexpensive.
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(01:14):
Let's get into it.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Welcome to today's episode of the Untold Podcast
guys.
Today's episode, we're going tobe talking about the battle
between loving food and hatingexercise.
I'm Chris, I'm Des and I'm Ash,and we're ready to go.
Why is food one of the biggestjoys in our life, but exercise
is hated by so many people?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
This is going to be a long episode.
I reckon I could do 20 minuteson my own on this one.
I'm a foodie, right.
I loved it.
How far do we go back?
This is hard to put into ahandy little paragraph.
My bowel ruptured, right.
You weren't expecting that asan answer, were you?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Well, here we go.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
In 2006.
I was 26 years old and my bowelruptured diverticulitis and no
one knew what it was.
They thought it was irritablebowel syndrome.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,blah.
I thought it was irritablebowel syndrome.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,blah.
I was about 18 stone at thetime and I had a colostomy bag
for the best part of a year.
During that time, I wasn'tallowed to eat all of the
processed crap that got me intothat position in the first place
(02:14):
, funnily enough.
So I learned to cook.
I taught myself how to cook andI've never looked back.
I love it.
It's one of my favorite thingsto do.
Everyone's on Monjaro at themoment.
I can't think of anything worse.
I can't think gastric band.
I can't think of anything worse.
If anyone's done it.
Fair play, fair play.
You've got to manage yourweight how you want to manage
your weight.
I enjoy food far too much andyeah, I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Well, I like food.
That's really interestingknowing that you had all that
done.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
That's quite a lot of stuff to go for, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I know they weren't expecting that as a start of the
conversation.
Were you?
What about you, ash?
I love food.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
I absolutely love food and I've been brought up
watching my mum cook and stuffand cooking and that was my way
I used to win.
I'm going to cook for you.
Bosh, bosh, bosh Every time mytwo relationships.
I love cooking.
I enjoy like mixing flavors.
(03:12):
I love good food, like my.
Luckily enough, my businesstakes me to places Spain and
Italy mainly where obviouslyItaly the food is phenomenal and
I get taken on these trips intothese restaurants and it's like
oh, do you want to try this?
Have you ever tried this?
Have you ever tried raw beefand truffle and stuff?
Speaker 1 (03:32):
like that.
No, but I'm just about to.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Yeah, and I don't know.
I just enjoy it.
I enjoy the flavours, I enjoycooking it and I enjoy
experimenting with it.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
When they say food is good for the soul, I completely
agree with that.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
It's good for everything other than your
health, really, isn't it?
As long as you eat healthily,obviously you can eat healthy.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
but the problem with eating healthy is it's bloody
expensive, it's hard.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
It's hard work.
It's so hard.
I'll tell you what we did do.
I took one of those foodintolerance tests, you know
where you pluck some hair outand you send it off and then
they run it through and theytell you what you're intolerant
to.
Well, I should imagine myresults were fairly similar
First thing you looked at.
Am I intolerant to beer?
No, I'm fine with beer, butwheat, dairy sugar, and I went
(04:20):
down a bit of a rabbit hole,especially with sugar and the
addiction that we all have tosugar, which is similar to an
addiction that you might have toa class A right.
I came off of that within twoweeks.
I had the worst stomach crampsyou could imagine for about
three, four days, but then afterthat I felt unbelievable and
healthy eating tasted the bestfood ever.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
So you actually got stomach cramps from stopping
eating sugar.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah, wow, it was horrific.
I lost about three stone.
Then I went to Cornwall.
And then how do you go toCornwall without having pasties
and ice creams?
You don't, do you?
And we kind of just didn't goback on it because I thought I'm
not going through those crampsa second time.
But we were having smokedmackerel on salad with air fried
(05:08):
potatoes and it would be thetastiest thing you've ever eaten
in your life.
I have it today.
It's so strange how takingsugar away can really just make
everything better, really.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Fascinating right.
I've actually just sat therekind of proper listening.
There.
I eat loads of sugar.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
I've got such a sweet kind of proper listening there
I eat loads of sugar.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I've got such a sweet tooth, really bad teeth.
I'm not going to lie, I'd loveto go to Turkey and get my teeth
done, but if I could take theabuse from my mates.
But for me, my relationshipwith exercise is just
non-existent at the moment.
It's again that time constraint.
You know it takes 10 minutes toeat a burger or an hour to go
up the gym.
What am I going to do?
That's the easiest.
I'm going to eat a burger.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah, but it's not an hour.
You have to get ready and thenyou have to shower afterwards.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Well, that's what I mean, yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I mean, if I not going to the gym now because I'm
not showering twice, yeah, youknow.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
I mean she's just taking a piss.
I mean they're like well, whatdid you get from the vending
machine today?
If you went to the gym, there'svending machines in other
places.
You don't have to go to the gymto go to the vending machine,
you fat bastard.
Hey, I went to the gym.
I did 15 minutes.
Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
yeah, I'm taking a piss out of the guy that works
for me at the moment.
He's only young I think he's 24, but he's just moved into his
own flat, just bought his ownflat with his missus.
He's going up to the gym.
He joined the gym two weeks ago, I think it was.
He goes up there every night.
So you're going up therebecause you can't afford a
shower now, because you've gotyour own place you've got your
own bills.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
It's difficult.
I've always been like I thinkwe spoke yesterday about it.
I've always I like sports.
No, you were in the car parkfor the gym Then the phone rang,
yeah Um like I don't mind it.
Once I'm there, it's gettingmyself there and I'll do it for
(07:01):
four or five weeks.
I can't do this anymore and Ibreak that routine and I just
don't.
I don't like being sweaty andhorrible and minging, but we've
got to do it.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I'll tell you what.
I've got a PT and anutritionist.
Shout out to Luke Luke Hedger,hedger Gym, great guy.
What I like most about Luke isthat he's a chef.
He's worked as a sous chef inlike Michelin-style restaurants,
so he's not just a geezer thatworks at the Toby Carvery.
Do you know what I mean?
Microwave thing?
Yeah, exactly.
So when he put a meal plan inplace, he knows that I can cook
(07:36):
and he left it vague enough tosay this is how much protein,
this is how much days.
If I say to him I've had twopints of Guinness, which we're
going to have today, it willadapt the rest of my daily
routine through ChatGPT.
He's also given me a workoutplan because I can't stand the
gym.
I can't stand exercise.
I have never been one thatenjoys exercise.
(07:59):
These endorphins that you'remeant to get, where are they?
They've been hiding somewherein my body.
I don't get them.
I never, ever, get that buzzlike yeah, just did a workout.
I endure it and, if anything,I'm more proud of the fact that
I hate exercise and I still doit.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Sometimes I've only ever done for team sports thing
is you mentioned routine asecond ago, like how is it?
Is it the routine that peopledon't like going up the gym, or
is it like the discomfort ofactually going to the gym and
hurting afterwards and just thefeeling that it does get?
I mean, when I used to go tothe gym I used to love it.
I used to love the endorphins.
It did make me feel bloodyamazing afterwards for hours,
(08:35):
like two or three hours If I goto the gym first thing in the
morning.
I used to feel fuckingbrilliant afterwards.
But it was just the disciplineof going up there every day.
And once you break the routineyou're done.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
I think that's it, because isn't the whole purpose
of the gym to becomeuncomfortable?
Yeah, that's your mission isn'tit.
You want to go there and be ashorrible and uncomfortable as
you can for the best part of anhour before you have a shower.
So it takes a mindset to getinto that, yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
And I think I did a couple of months with a local
gym.
That was like one-to-onesessions.
It was small group sessions, sofour people, so it's basically
one-to-one and I was booking asession five o'clock every
morning.
I'd do it four or five times aweek.
Every week I'd miss a day.
In the week I'd do it aSaturday morning.
(09:23):
You must have been in a 4 amclub then.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
then I loved it.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
I, absolutely I a week I'd do the saturday morning
.
You must have been in a 4 amclub then.
Then I loved it.
I absolutely.
I got in a routine of doing it.
I didn't love it when I wasthere, but it's an hour of your
day, it's an hour of the day.
I've made the hour because I'mgoing at six before I get into
work for quarter past seven.
Um, and I loved it.
I loved it.
But then it was like it's like300 pound a month, yeah, and
it's like the do you know what Imean?
(09:48):
But it was the accountabilitythat I was paying the money for
it and I was in the best shapeI've ever been and I felt better
and I look better.
And I used to stand in front ofthe mirror and be like look at
this, look darling, look, look,I'm getting a six-pack.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
And then I went and um, this is okay, I'm just
talking to yourself as well.
No, yeah, that was me.
Yeah, she wasn't there.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
That was talking to me and I sort of did it and I
was on and off with it.
I was on and off with it and,like, I dislocated my shoulder
just over a year ago and it wasthe most debilitating thing I've
ever done.
It was horrible.
I just couldn't do nothing withthis arm, like for months and
months and months, no matter howhard I tried.
(10:28):
And I've always had a problem.
And every time I go liftingweights, this shoulder has been
shite compared to this one.
And it turns out afterdislocating my shoulder.
They said, oh, have you everhad a shoulder injury?
I said, well, I fell off askateboard when I was 16.
Oh, you broke your shoulder.
The bones all still floatingaround and I've never done
anything with it.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
I'll tell you that saying of just get up and try
again.
That didn't work that day.
Yeah, you should have gone tothe hospital, run it off.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
But I loved playing squash.
Like you said about team sports, I absolutely love.
I don't mind exercise when it'snot running on a treadmill on
your own or on a rowing machineor lifting weights.
That's it.
I like going out on a motorbike.
I like going out on a pushbike,I like going out on a motorbike
as well but you can't classthat as exercise.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
What.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
I like going out on a pushbike when the sun's shining
.
I like playing golf.
It gets a few steps in andstuff.
I like being out and about anddoing things.
Yeah, going to the gym.
I've never.
I can't get on with it for longenough period of time for it to
stick as part of my dailyroutine this is the longest I've
stuck at it.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
I've lost about eight kilo now since the start of the
year.
I've still got a good eight tolose.
It's just the most consistentI've got.
But it's the first time I'vehad a PT where I'm really
checking in and really taking itseriously as well.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
I was going to say is that because you've got the
accountability, because if youweren't paying Luke to do it, If
it wasn't for Luke, I wouldn'thave that accountability.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
And the fact is I've never kept at it long enough.
My weight is always yo-yoed.
But when I was working the dayjob at any one time in the
houses that I've lived in, I'vebeen about a 35 to 40 minute
bike ride.
So I used to ride my bike in,ride my bike back.
That's a good hour and a half.
That's a good lot of exercisethat I could do daily.
(12:16):
That would take care of theexercise.
But now I'm working at home allthe time, working for myself,
with fewer hours.
It's a struggle to fit it inunless I make a real conscious
effort.
But I think it comes back towhat you said.
It's.
It's the routine, whetherthat's a weight loss thing, an
exercise thing, a money-makingthing.
If you, if you stop becauseyou're poorly for whatever
(12:37):
reason, or you're low mood andyou don't fancy it, that's fine.
You need to have that fuckingvoice in your head that tells
you after a couple of days, getback up, get back in there.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
It's that horrible bloody word again that we always
talk about in it consistencyeverything in life you need to
be consistent with, don't you?
everything problem with me inthe gym is I'm one of these
people that I have to go.
I've said it in a previouspodcast.
I have to go all in.
If I'm going to do somethinglike properly, I need to go all
in.
So the last last time I went tothe gym, I went for about six
months, every single day.
I stopped drinking completely.
(13:09):
I went to the gym every day,became a boring bastard, didn't
want to do anything else otherthan eat, sleep and breathe the
gym.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
I was eating chicken.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
I was eating broccoli .
I was eating cauliflower fortoilet five times a day.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
No, it's a difference , massive difference.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
I was looking ripped.
It felt amazing.
But I went to the pub one nightafter work with my mate to have
a Coke and I ended up on about10 pints of Stella and I never
went back to the gym again,literally never went back.
Put about four stone on it intwo years.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
I think we put a lot of pressure, though there's a
lot of pressure on that,especially in the.
In the modern day world, if youdon't go to the gym, then
you're a useless human being.
Yeah, and there's a lot of.
There's a lot of things, butthere's so many other ways to
lose weight and be healthy byeating better, drinking lots of
water.
Don't drink enough water.
Now, how easy is it to drinkmore water?
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Somebody needs to be very clever and make water taste
like beer, because I would bethe most hydrated person on the
planet.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Again, it was Luke that said to me you must take a
water bottle everywhere, Becauseif you don't take a water
bottle everywhere, you won'tdrink your water.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
And it's so true.
I was going to ask you justbefore you told us about your
shoulder injury.
You've obviously gone to thegym loads.
You've obviously made somepretty stupid excuses to not
work out in the past.
Oh yeah, Must have done.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
I can't be arsed.
Oh no, I can't go to the gymtomorrow because I think my
tyre's flat on my car and I'mnot going to be able to get
there.
Do you know what I mean?
I used to make up when I usedto go to the public gym, if you
like, before I went to theprivate gym, darling.
When I went to the public gym,me and my mate used to go
(15:02):
together and we used to sort ofhold each other accountable for
it and I'd have to ask him whatthe excuses were.
But he used to get so fuckedoff with me like, mate, come on,
I need you to spot me, I needyou there, I can't do it without
you there.
And I was like, yeah, I've, uh,broke my toenail.
Um, oh, yeah, my dog's not well, uh, all this.
But if we do, I think we makeexcuses because it's not fun.
Yeah, there are some peoplethat absolutely love the gym.
(15:24):
Yeah, they love it, they love it, they love it, it, they love it
, they love it Good for them.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Problem is, though, they make everybody else feel so
inferior.
You roll up to the gym withyour belly hanging out and the
T-shirt that doesn't quite fityou properly, because you bought
a smaller size, because you'regoing to lose loads of weight at
the gym and you want to getyour monies out of it.
And then they're there, allprim, prim and proper, on the
treadmill doing 16 mile an hour.
Hello, like you're, you're outof breath.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
You've just walked up the stairs, you know like you
go to the, you go to the benchand you're picking up 15s and
they're picking up the 35s.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Yeah, just off the floor to put them back on the
shelf to get the 60s.
Yeah, I just the thing is withme.
I'm one of these people.
When I go to the gym I do feela bit inferior.
I do look at other people as ifthey're watching me, because
I'm crap.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Yeah.
I think they don't really it'slike anything after that.
It's uncomfortable, isn't it?
Yeah, it is uncomfortable, andit's having the confidence to
we're all right, we can all goto the gym.
I'm sure that no one's watchingyou being like, look at that,
not trying to lift them weights.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
He can't lift them.
I come out of the gym lookinglike a packet of potatoes.
Every time I look like a sackof shit.
Yesterday I forced myself towear a grey T-shirt Real face
your fears.
So your face was even more redby the colour of the T-shirt.
You sweat on a grey T-shirt.
It shows you know what I mean.
Like, if I'm going to look shit, I'm going to look proper shit.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Then we got the photo of it, didn't we?
Yeah, I took a picture of itand said I fucking hate the gym,
but, yeah, the excuses that wetell ourselves.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
And then I was also in the gym when Boris locked
down the country.
Literally get out, gym's closedand, as she said yesterday, get
out of the gym.
Yeah, get out of the gym.
Bad things happen when I go tothe gym, so that was the story
since 2001 that I told myselfI'll go to the gym.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Bad things happen.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
We've spoken about the gym a lot.
Let's start talking about food.
Oh yeah, that's better Food.
We all love food.
One of my favourite pastimes iseating what's your favourite.
What is your favourite thing toeat?
Is it healthy or is itunhealthy?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
It's unhealthy.
It's usually something wrappedin pastry, and that could be a
sausage roll.
It could be a venisonwellington, it doesn't matter.
Everything's better when it'swrapped in pastry salmon on crew
oh yeah posh I.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
I just love red meat steak steak.
I do these potatoes where yousort of slice them, you soak
them for a day in salt andgarlic and oil and stuff.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Right, we've just decided whose else we're going
to.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Then you have the cote de boeuf on the barbecue,
big fuck-off bit of steak likethis with a bit of salad, a bit
of potatoes and stuff.
That for me, is like heavenNice bit of steak, really nice
T-bones.
And that's what I do in thesummer, though, and I invite
people around and like ladsright, we're having a poker
(18:14):
night.
I'll host it.
I'll go to the butchers, spenda couple of hundred quid on
steaks.
We'll come around, we'll play abit of poker and we'll eat food
and we'll drink nice drink.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Yeah, we'll do it.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Do that on a tuesday can we do that instead of the
golf?
Speaker 3 (18:26):
you do that whenever you want.
I just I don't.
I love food.
I love food, I love cooking.
Um, well then, like I saidearlier, I love experimenting
with flavors.
I can't bake for shit, becausebaking's like more of a, it's a
scientific.
You've got to have this much ofthis and this much of this
specific yeah whereas, right,how much garlic do we want today
(18:49):
?
That'll do.
Let's see what that's like.
And every time, you can cookthe same meal a hundred times
and it will never be exactly thesame yeah, never taste exactly
the same what about you?
Speaker 1 (19:00):
well, I'm not really that experimental, to be honest.
I do like mixing my flavors upthough, so sometimes I'll have
cheese and chives Pringles orI'll have barbecue flavour, but
that is kind of my comfort food.
That is what I'll sit on thesofa and eat.
No, I love a steak.
I do love a steak.
I like a nice T-bone steak orsomething like that.
But I like junk food.
That's my favourite food, mate.
(19:20):
I've got no problem with junkfood.
It's quick If I'm at work, I candrive to McDonald's, I can
drive to Burger King, I can gowherever I want and get a burger
or curry If I'm going dirty andhorrible, mate, I'll go dirty
and horrible.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
I'll have a Rustler's , not even the branded one.
I'll have a Tesco home brand.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Rustler's.
Yeah, I don't stoop that low,to be fair.
Oh, I love it honestly.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
I'd rather have a bit of lettuce.
They're healthy.
It's before the microwave orafterwards no after.
You definitely do it after Idid a post about that on
facebook.
Once you know, you get thesegroups on facebook and they're
all like at each other.
Someone said something once andI'll put a photo on there of my
russell burger a bit of lettucein it.
I was like this is now healthybecause it's got and everybody's
.
Oh, they're ripping me like I'mbeing serious oh, I love it.
(20:04):
Oh, I bought a Rostle Burger.
I'll put a slice of lettuce init.
It's now healthy.
Party your five a day Likecrack on.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yeah, if I'm going cheap and nasty, there's no
limits.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
But how good.
I mean, it does feel reallygood when you eat healthy food
for a couple of days.
It does make you feel betterabout things, doesn't it?
When you just go, I'll havethree or four days where I feel
a bit rubbish and I'll go toMcDonald's and I'll eat a burger
, and then I'll go there in theafternoon and I'll get another
burger or something.
Or I'll go in the morning andget breakfast Hang over mate.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
There's nothing better.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
And then I'll go and get a burger in the afternoon,
and then the following day II'll be all lethargic and I
can't be asked to do anything.
There's no motivation.
And then you think to yourselfactually, food's quite
responsible for your mentalhealth and looking after
yourself as well.
And then, when you start tothink about it eat a little bit
more healthy it starts makingyou feel a bit different,
(20:54):
doesn't it?
Speaker 2 (20:54):
It really does.
Like I say, when I came offthat sugar, it was everything.
Healthy eating was everything.
There was a guy that that Iknow he passed away, bless his
heart.
He used to say to me I wouldhave a couple of beers on a
Wednesday and my default wouldbe start again on Monday.
I might as well enjoy Thursday,friday.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Saturday, Sunday.
You don't ever start anythingon a day other than a Monday.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Exactly right.
He said to me he went if youblew a tyre on your car, do you
go and put a chiv on the otherthree tyres?
I mean, of course you don't.
I mean of course you don't.
That's just one tyre on a fourwheel car.
What are you doing that for?
And you think shit.
I hated it.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
When he was right, I'll tell you what I do love a
burger like a proper nice burger.
I don't think you can go wrongwith a burger, burger and chips.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
I completely agree.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
I don't think you can go wrong with burger and chips
nice crispy onion rings.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Yeah, brioche barn and stuff, juice dribbling out
the side a lot the nice little.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
You got a tomato relish and the american mustard,
that that little combo.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
They go well yeah, just just burgers, burgers.
You can do so much with aburger.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
You can do so much with a burger that's a
generational thing, though,right, we're all of a similar
generation.
We grew up with the birth andthe rise of mcdonald's and
burger king and all that.
It's our generation that havenow built banging burger
restaurants, because our parents, they didn't give a monkeys
about burgers, did they?
Speaker 1 (22:19):
in those days, people making a living out of going
and visiting them, burgerrestaurants, I mean they're
doing reviews on them.
That's how many burger placesthere are now.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yeah, yeah because our generation grew up knowing
how freaking good a burger was,and now you've got some of the
best foods out there.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
I think, like you used to go to these festivals
and stuff, didn't you?
And you'd go to these open daysand spring festivals and that,
and you'd go around and you'djust With just the cheap burgers
frozen from the thing.
Now you go there, it's allgourmet food truck.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Yeah, they're not burger bars anymore, they're
street food.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
It's street food gourmet burgers from a cabin.
That's it.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
But, it's good I've got a mullet.
I'm not buying from it.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
And it's not reheated Do you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
It's not reheated.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
There's one I love down in Brighton.
Every time I go down toBrighton, outside the mall
you've got that little shackthat does the hot dogs and the
bratwurst and stuff Every singletime I go in there, mate, I'm
from Brighton, that has beenthere all my life.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
I was there 15 years ago.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
That was there Definitely, and when I talk
about going cheap and dirty,that's one of them.
I'm sure there's pig's eyeballsin that and the way we're all
talking about food.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
You can understand why food addiction is a thing
for certain people, can't you?
Yeah I mean what?
What's your, what's your viewson that?
Speaker 2 (23:30):
all right, I'm gonna get controversial here, and this
is what I quite like about thispodcast, because in all of my
other social media stuff I'mquite vanilla in the way that I
am.
Yeah, if you're so fat that youcan't tie your shoelaces, stop
eating all right, mate calm downsorry, sorry.
You don't get fat.
Suddenly you don't, and I'msaying this as a fat man.
(23:52):
There's a point where you go.
You know what?
I don't like this anymore Forpeople and I understand that
people have got significantmental health issues that might
go that far, significant sort ofinsecurity issues, but not
everybody.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
But if you can't tie your shoelaces, and you have to
put responsibility on peoplearound these people as well.
Oh mate, 100%, we've got athing at work.
Yeah, if one of us stink, we go.
You fucking stink, mate.
Sort yourself out.
You do, you know because youhave that respect for each other
.
There's got to be somebody,hopefully, in those people's
lives that go mate just insteadof eating those.
Why don't you just have one?
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Yeah, my boy is nine years old.
Look after your heart.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Look after your health a bit more, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Exactly kids.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Think about your children, you know, um, it's a
tough, it is a difficult subjectthis.
That's kind of why I broughtthat bit up.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
But you've got to have pride in your appearance,
right?
Yeah, my boy is nine years old.
We now make him put his jumperon after he's brushed his teeth.
And if he brushes his teeth andthere's stuff down there, I'd
say to him mate, you don't wantto be the kid in school with the
dirty jumper, you don't want tobe that kid.
You don't want to be the kid inschool that's got smelly
armpits, because that's abullying thing, isn't it?
(25:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (25:01):
yeah, Unfortunately there are some horrible people
out there who will pick on themost random, mind you, minuscule
things.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
And you don't want your kids being that.
Certainly you don't want yourkids being that.
If you've got mates like that?
Speaker 1 (25:12):
why would you not tell them?
I don't understand it.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
You've got to look out for each other.
Do you know what I mean, mate?
Come on, you're not healthy,you're not.
You've got to put down therustler burger and just just
rein it in a little bit do youknow what I mean?
And if you're listening to thisfrom rustlers we're looking for
(25:35):
sponsors.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
I enjoy a rustlers?
Yeah, from time to time.
But yeah, if you can't tie yourshoelaces, the answer isn't
Velcro.
You know what I mean?
The answer is yeah, oh dear.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
It's those inventions , isn't it?
I can't get my sock on, butI've got this new thing where,
if I, I can just I know I canlasso a sock around my toe.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Yeah, don't just don't change them.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
The next subject was going to be have you ever had an
issue with food?
Speaker 2 (26:00):
but obviously I'll take you as a no, des, because
you've made your point quite ano, because there's a voice on
my head that says you're reallyfat, mate, sort your life out.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Yeah so I'm going to drop a.
It's not a secret, I did go onthe Mondiano.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Oh did you?
Yeah, Mate, we know lots ofpeople that do Fair play to them
.
I've got one of my best mateswho's got a gastric band.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
I saw it and I thought, okay, well, if I can
have a bit of help.
I'm not.
Do you know what I mean?
According to the GP, I'mclinically obese and I shouldn't
be alive Me too.
But I thought let's give it ago.
(26:43):
Some of I found it and I did it.
And you go from the two and ahalf to the fives and that, and
at first I was all really scared.
I don't want to do it.
I don't want to jive myself now.
It's all it really did for me.
I lost 10 kilograms in 12 weeks.
I guess that's good, um, butall it did was really suppress
my appetite a little bit.
Yeah, I wouldn't eat during theday, um, and then I was reading
into it and they're like yeah,but what you're doing is you're
losing, like bone mass andyou're losing lots of other
(27:04):
things.
And I've got these cleverscales that do the thing, and it
was.
It was losing bone mass, I waslosing fluid retention, I was
losing other things.
Now I'm not.
I didn't look too deep into it,um, and then christmas hit and I
was like I'm not doing thisover christmas.
I've got the full family around.
We've got all the trimmings.
Talk about food.
I'll send you a photo of mychristmas spread.
(27:27):
It was literally mental and Idid this.
I did this thing.
I objected myself.
I went from the two and a halfto the five to the seven and a
half and then I started readingstuff and I did the 10 and then
I skipped a week and did a weekand that and literally, I think
within three or four weeks ofdoing it all that weight's just
come straight back.
Oh, really, literally, peoplesaid it.
(27:49):
They said as soon as you stopdoing it.
So it's almost like it's athing for life.
Now I did change the way I eat.
Um, we used to have a sandwichvan come around here and I'd be
doing seven, eight quid a day onbacon, rolls and burgers and
stuff.
Just because, just because Ilike eating, um, and yeah, I
think that a lot of the peoplethat say as soon as you come off
(28:09):
it, you will, you will put theweight straight back on I'm all
right.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
I think so.
It suppresses your appetite andit makes you fuller quicker.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Yeah, I don't yeah it definitely makes you fuller
quicker.
Yeah, I don't.
Yeah, it definitely makes youfuller quicker, so you wouldn't
eat the same size portions.
I could go all day withouteating anything, but I'd still
get home and I'd be absolutelyfucking starving, Like I would
be like right in straight in thedoor, fucking running in raid
in the fridge pulling everythingout, eating stuff while I'm
(28:39):
cooking dinner because I was sohungry.
And then I've made my dinnerand I can't eat it because I've
picked on little things.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
So it was the idea was.
The idea was was to do it, helpme lose a little bit and then
smash on with the gym.
But I never smashed on with thegym, I just did it and then.
Well, you're seeing results andI watch a lot of people on
TikTok and I messaged this guy.
This guy went from being a biglad to after like 16 weeks or so
.
Did you do?
(29:07):
He said no, I changed nothingelse about my life.
Yeah, for me that wasn't.
The idea was was to give me abit of a boost mentally.
Oh, you're losing weight, butyou're also going to, and I did,
I didn't.
It goes back to one of the otherepisodes we filmed about the
weather.
This was in the winter months.
I joined Pure Gym.
I was going for a couple ofweeks.
I was getting up three, fourmornings a week at half past
(29:28):
five, being in the gym for six,in work for quarter past seven.
Now in the summer I can do thatbecause it's sunshining.
Yeah, sun shining.
Yeah, getting out of bed to goto the gym in the morning.
The thing is, when you go tothe gym you come out and fucking
starving.
I want a steak.
Yeah, when I used to do themornings at like six in the
morning, do that four be like,oh god, I could murder a fucking
(29:48):
steak.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
now, like you get out the gym in the morning just so
hungry, but I guess you'reburning the yeah, you're burning
it, but this is the other thingabout food that fascinates me
and what I love about food.
So when you were on Monjaro andyou didn't have the appetite
and you weren't eating the bigportions, how did that affect
your relationship with your wife, when you were going out for
dinner, for example?
Speaker 3 (30:09):
I still love food.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
I still love food Still ordered it, just couldn't
eat it.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Yeah, I still ordered it.
No, I'd still eat it.
It's just I don't know.
It was weird.
It's really weird.
Some people have said Iliterally I couldn't eat, that I
couldn't eat.
I think there were certaintimes, because obviously you do
the injection once a week.
I think there were some times.
I think, after you do theinjection, the next day is like
when it's at its highest right,and then it's sort of and I used
to do the injections on amonday so then you're working at
(30:36):
the weekends.
It's probably sort of likeslightly worn off.
It's not.
It worked, don't get me wrong,but I don't know whether it was
all the other things thelowering your water retention,
your bone mass and things likethat.
I don't know whether it was amixture of everything.
Obviously, yeah, the portionsize is smaller, but I eat big
portions, like you should seethe size of the bloody sum of
(30:59):
the portions I eat.
Yeah, it's really, reallydifficult.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
It's interesting.
So people that I know that havespoken about their other arms
being on Monjaro, exactly likeone.
Guy took his partner away forher birthday weekend to a spa
and on the last night they weregoing to have a big sort of slap
up meal at this place, but shehad some scallops at lunch so
she didn't fancy dinner and hewas like cheap night.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Yeah, I'd like to get some of my Mrs on Manjaro Not
that she needs it, not that sheneeds it.
I thought I'd throw that inthere, he said.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
he said he's sitting there eating this three-course
dinner that he's already paidfor on his own, while she's
sitting there watching him.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Have you ever tried anything like Manjaro or
anything like that?
Speaker 2 (31:43):
No, no, I've tried lots of fad diets.
Yeah, what worked best for mewas the fasting one, because I
knew that I could go a day noteating anything but I could eat
tomorrow, and that did reallywell for me but, I've never had
anything like that I like theseafood diet Seafood, fucking
eat it.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Love that.
Thing is with diets and trainingregimes and everything your
body.
I mean, I'm not a scientist oranything, but obviously I know a
bit about supplements and thatthe way your body works, if
you're starving it of fats andstuff that it's been used to as
soon as you stop working out, assoon as you stop diet used to
as soon as you stop working out,as soon as you stop dieting, as
(32:20):
soon as you stop eating healthy, your body just stores all of
the shit that you're putting init again.
That's why you, that's why youput that weight on instantly,
because your body knows it'scoming and when it comes it's
going to grab hold of it withboth hands and store it and
store the life out of it,because all you're going to do
is you're going to starve it ofit again.
It's going to end up burningitself off again.
So unless you're dedicated tothe gym and you go every three
times a week or whatever, youcan eat what you want, I think.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Eat what you want.
Keep your exercise levels good.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
But that's why I don't exercise.
I'm on my feet all day at work.
I feel like I get my steps in.
If I didn't work on a buildingsite, I'd probably be about 19
stone, I would reckon.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Yeah, when I stopped playing, I was used to playing
football four times a week andthen I got an office job and it
just fucking that's it like withme now.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
I push pens around the desk for a living.
That's not much exercise, doingthis all day and that and then
enter and that and then pickingup the phone.
So that's where I really likeand obviously I've got all the
fields around here and then Iwant to try and do the steps
because that makes them.
If you could just do 10,000steps a day, five days a week,
(33:25):
that makes a massive difference.
Just mobility, just getting theblood flow.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Yeah, but what I don't tell you is that 10,000
steps is a lot of steps.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Yeah, it's pressure, isn't it?
It's pressure again on people,isn't it it is?
Speaker 2 (33:35):
And again it comes around to this ideal of we
should always be happy, weshould always be healthy, we
should always be this, andeveryone's just striving for
this.
And then, the day you don'tfeel happy or the day you don't
feel healthy, you instantlythink, well, is there something
wrong with me?
No, there, fucking isn't.
I had a shocking week last weekand I check in with my PT every
Saturday and I said to him Iwent nine times out of 10, I
(33:56):
would lie to you today and justsay, yeah, this happened, this
happened, this happened, and I'dlie to you about my weight.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
I've done 14 marathons this week, mate, did
you not hear?
Speaker 2 (34:05):
But I said to him I went, but straight up, honest, I
didn't fancy it.
I had a lot going on.
I knew I was making bad choices, I didn't care.
I knew I should have gone tothe gym.
I didn't go.
That's the end of that.
But I still want to bemotivated to do better next week
.
And he's come back and gonethat's life, yeah, that's what
you're meant to do.
Anyone that says to you or youshould be doing this
(34:26):
consistently every week, that'sjust unrealistic.
Yeah, and I've.
That meant more to me than akick up the ass.
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (34:33):
and I think, to be fair, that's probably a good way
to finish this podcast, to bequite honest.
So, uh, thanks for listening,thanks for watching.
Uh, make sure you like, scribeand share this.
Oh, fuck off.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Keep that in.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Uh well, I'd say that's a pretty good place to
stop the podcast today, then,boys.
Um, thanks for watching today,guys, and listening.
If you want to subscribe,please do.
Why is food one of the biggest joys in our life,
but exercise is hated by so manypeople?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
I can't stand the gym .
I can't stand exercise.
I have never been one thatenjoys exercise.
These endorphins that you'remeant to get, where the fuck,
where are they?
Speaker 3 (00:16):
According to the GP, I'm clinically obese and I
shouldn't be alive.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Everyone's on Monjaro at the moment.
I can't think of anything worse.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Everyone's on Manjaro at the moment.
I can't think of anything worse, so I'm going to drop a.
It's not a secret.
I did go on the Manjaro, yeah.
All it did was really suppressmy appetite a little bit, yeah.
And then I skipped a week andliterally, I think within three
or four weeks, all that weight'sjust come straight back.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
When they say food is good for the soul.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
I completely agree with that.
It's good for everything otherthan your health, for it, isn't
it if you as long as you, aslong as you eat healthily,
obviously?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
but you can eat healthy, but the problem with
eating healthy is it's bloodyexpensive.
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Let's get into it.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Welcome to today's episode of the Untold Podcast
guys.
Today's episode, we're going tobe talking about the battle
between loving food and hatingexercise.
I'm Chris, I'm Des and I'm Ash,and we're ready to go.
Why is food one of the biggestjoys in our life, but exercise
is hated by so many people?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
This is going to be a long episode.
I reckon I could do 20 minuteson my own on this one.
I'm a foodie, right.
I loved it.
How far do we go back?
This is hard to put into ahandy little paragraph.
My bowel ruptured, right.
You weren't expecting that asan answer, were you?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Well, here we go.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
In 2006.
I was 26 years old and my bowelruptured diverticulitis and no
one knew what it was.
They thought it was irritablebowel syndrome.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,blah.
I thought it was irritablebowel syndrome.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,blah.
I was about 18 stone at thetime and I had a colostomy bag
for the best part of a year.
During that time, I wasn'tallowed to eat all of the
processed crap that got me intothat position in the first place
(02:14):
, funnily enough.
So I learned to cook.
I taught myself how to cook andI've never looked back.
I love it.
It's one of my favorite thingsto do.
Everyone's on Monjaro at themoment.
I can't think of anything worse.
I can't think gastric band.
I can't think of anything worse.
If anyone's done it.
Fair play, fair play.
You've got to manage yourweight how you want to manage
your weight.
I enjoy food far too much andyeah, I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Well, I like food.
That's really interestingknowing that you had all that
done.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
That's quite a lot of stuff to go for, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I know they weren't expecting that as a start of the
conversation.
Were you?
What about you, ash?
I love food.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
I absolutely love food and I've been brought up
watching my mum cook and stuffand cooking and that was my way
I used to win.
I'm going to cook for you.
Bosh, bosh, bosh Every time mytwo relationships.
I love cooking.
I enjoy like mixing flavors.
(03:12):
I love good food, like my.
Luckily enough, my businesstakes me to places Spain and
Italy mainly where obviouslyItaly the food is phenomenal and
I get taken on these trips intothese restaurants and it's like
oh, do you want to try this?
Have you ever tried this?
Have you ever tried raw beefand truffle and stuff?
Speaker 1 (03:32):
like that.
No, but I'm just about to.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Yeah, and I don't know.
I just enjoy it.
I enjoy the flavours, I enjoycooking it and I enjoy
experimenting with it.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
When they say food is good for the soul, I completely
agree with that.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
It's good for everything other than your
health, really, isn't it?
As long as you eat healthily,obviously you can eat healthy.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
but the problem with eating healthy is it's bloody
expensive, it's hard.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
It's hard work.
It's so hard.
I'll tell you what we did do.
I took one of those foodintolerance tests, you know
where you pluck some hair outand you send it off and then
they run it through and theytell you what you're intolerant
to.
Well, I should imagine myresults were fairly similar
First thing you looked at.
Am I intolerant to beer?
No, I'm fine with beer, butwheat, dairy sugar, and I went
(04:20):
down a bit of a rabbit hole,especially with sugar and the
addiction that we all have tosugar, which is similar to an
addiction that you might have toa class A right.
I came off of that within twoweeks.
I had the worst stomach crampsyou could imagine for about
three, four days, but then afterthat I felt unbelievable and
healthy eating tasted the bestfood ever.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
So you actually got stomach cramps from stopping
eating sugar.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah, wow, it was horrific.
I lost about three stone.
Then I went to Cornwall.
And then how do you go toCornwall without having pasties
and ice creams?
You don't, do you?
And we kind of just didn't goback on it because I thought I'm
not going through those crampsa second time.
But we were having smokedmackerel on salad with air fried
(05:08):
potatoes and it would be thetastiest thing you've ever eaten
in your life.
I have it today.
It's so strange how takingsugar away can really just make
everything better, really.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Fascinating right.
I've actually just sat therekind of proper listening.
There.
I eat loads of sugar.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
I've got such a sweet kind of proper listening there
I eat loads of sugar.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I've got such a sweet tooth, really bad teeth.
I'm not going to lie, I'd loveto go to Turkey and get my teeth
done, but if I could take theabuse from my mates.
But for me, my relationshipwith exercise is just
non-existent at the moment.
It's again that time constraint.
You know it takes 10 minutes toeat a burger or an hour to go
up the gym.
What am I going to do?
That's the easiest.
I'm going to eat a burger.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah, but it's not an hour.
You have to get ready and thenyou have to shower afterwards.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Well, that's what I mean, yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I mean, if I not going to the gym now because I'm
not showering twice, yeah, youknow.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
I mean she's just taking a piss.
I mean they're like well, whatdid you get from the vending
machine today?
If you went to the gym, there'svending machines in other
places.
You don't have to go to the gymto go to the vending machine,
you fat bastard.
Hey, I went to the gym.
I did 15 minutes.
Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
yeah, I'm taking a piss out of the guy that works
for me at the moment.
He's only young I think he's 24, but he's just moved into his
own flat, just bought his ownflat with his missus.
He's going up to the gym.
He joined the gym two weeks ago, I think it was.
He goes up there every night.
So you're going up therebecause you can't afford a
shower now, because you've gotyour own place you've got your
own bills.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
It's difficult.
I've always been like I thinkwe spoke yesterday about it.
I've always I like sports.
No, you were in the car parkfor the gym Then the phone rang,
yeah Um like I don't mind it.
Once I'm there, it's gettingmyself there and I'll do it for
(07:01):
four or five weeks.
I can't do this anymore and Ibreak that routine and I just
don't.
I don't like being sweaty andhorrible and minging, but we've
got to do it.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I'll tell you what.
I've got a PT and anutritionist.
Shout out to Luke Luke Hedger,hedger Gym, great guy.
What I like most about Luke isthat he's a chef.
He's worked as a sous chef inlike Michelin-style restaurants,
so he's not just a geezer thatworks at the Toby Carvery.
Do you know what I mean?
Microwave thing?
Yeah, exactly.
So when he put a meal plan inplace, he knows that I can cook
(07:36):
and he left it vague enough tosay this is how much protein,
this is how much days.
If I say to him I've had twopints of Guinness, which we're
going to have today, it willadapt the rest of my daily
routine through ChatGPT.
He's also given me a workoutplan because I can't stand the
gym.
I can't stand exercise.
I have never been one thatenjoys exercise.
(07:59):
These endorphins that you'remeant to get, where are they?
They've been hiding somewherein my body.
I don't get them.
I never, ever, get that buzzlike yeah, just did a workout.
I endure it and, if anything,I'm more proud of the fact that
I hate exercise and I still doit.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Sometimes I've only ever done for team sports thing
is you mentioned routine asecond ago, like how is it?
Is it the routine that peopledon't like going up the gym, or
is it like the discomfort ofactually going to the gym and
hurting afterwards and just thefeeling that it does get?
I mean, when I used to go tothe gym I used to love it.
I used to love the endorphins.
It did make me feel bloodyamazing afterwards for hours,
(08:35):
like two or three hours If I goto the gym first thing in the
morning.
I used to feel fuckingbrilliant afterwards.
But it was just the disciplineof going up there every day.
And once you break the routineyou're done.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
I think that's it, because isn't the whole purpose
of the gym to becomeuncomfortable?
Yeah, that's your mission isn'tit.
You want to go there and be ashorrible and uncomfortable as
you can for the best part of anhour before you have a shower.
So it takes a mindset to getinto that, yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
And I think I did a couple of months with a local
gym.
That was like one-to-onesessions.
It was small group sessions, sofour people, so it's basically
one-to-one and I was booking asession five o'clock every
morning.
I'd do it four or five times aweek.
Every week I'd miss a day.
In the week I'd do it aSaturday morning.
(09:23):
You must have been in a 4 amclub then.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
then I loved it.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
I, absolutely I a week I'd do the saturday morning
.
You must have been in a 4 amclub then.
Then I loved it.
I absolutely.
I got in a routine of doing it.
I didn't love it when I wasthere, but it's an hour of your
day, it's an hour of the day.
I've made the hour because I'mgoing at six before I get into
work for quarter past seven.
Um, and I loved it.
I loved it.
But then it was like it's like300 pound a month, yeah, and
it's like the do you know what Imean?
(09:48):
But it was the accountabilitythat I was paying the money for
it and I was in the best shapeI've ever been and I felt better
and I look better.
And I used to stand in front ofthe mirror and be like look at
this, look darling, look, look,I'm getting a six-pack.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
And then I went and um, this is okay, I'm just
talking to yourself as well.
No, yeah, that was me.
Yeah, she wasn't there.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
That was talking to me and I sort of did it and I
was on and off with it.
I was on and off with it and,like, I dislocated my shoulder
just over a year ago and it wasthe most debilitating thing I've
ever done.
It was horrible.
I just couldn't do nothing withthis arm, like for months and
months and months, no matter howhard I tried.
(10:28):
And I've always had a problem.
And every time I go liftingweights, this shoulder has been
shite compared to this one.
And it turns out afterdislocating my shoulder.
They said, oh, have you everhad a shoulder injury?
I said, well, I fell off askateboard when I was 16.
Oh, you broke your shoulder.
The bones all still floatingaround and I've never done
anything with it.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
I'll tell you that saying of just get up and try
again.
That didn't work that day.
Yeah, you should have gone tothe hospital, run it off.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
But I loved playing squash.
Like you said about team sports, I absolutely love.
I don't mind exercise when it'snot running on a treadmill on
your own or on a rowing machineor lifting weights.
That's it.
I like going out on a motorbike.
I like going out on a pushbike,I like going out on a motorbike
as well but you can't classthat as exercise.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
What.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
I like going out on a pushbike when the sun's shining
.
I like playing golf.
It gets a few steps in andstuff.
I like being out and about anddoing things.
Yeah, going to the gym.
I've never.
I can't get on with it for longenough period of time for it to
stick as part of my dailyroutine this is the longest I've
stuck at it.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
I've lost about eight kilo now since the start of the
year.
I've still got a good eight tolose.
It's just the most consistentI've got.
But it's the first time I'vehad a PT where I'm really
checking in and really taking itseriously as well.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
I was going to say is that because you've got the
accountability, because if youweren't paying Luke to do it, If
it wasn't for Luke, I wouldn'thave that accountability.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
And the fact is I've never kept at it long enough.
My weight is always yo-yoed.
But when I was working the dayjob at any one time in the
houses that I've lived in, I'vebeen about a 35 to 40 minute
bike ride.
So I used to ride my bike in,ride my bike back.
That's a good hour and a half.
That's a good lot of exercisethat I could do daily.
(12:16):
That would take care of theexercise.
But now I'm working at home allthe time, working for myself,
with fewer hours.
It's a struggle to fit it inunless I make a real conscious
effort.
But I think it comes back towhat you said.
It's.
It's the routine, whetherthat's a weight loss thing, an
exercise thing, a money-makingthing.
If you, if you stop becauseyou're poorly for whatever
(12:37):
reason, or you're low mood andyou don't fancy it, that's fine.
You need to have that fuckingvoice in your head that tells
you after a couple of days, getback up, get back in there.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
It's that horrible bloody word again that we always
talk about in it consistencyeverything in life you need to
be consistent with, don't you?
everything problem with me inthe gym is I'm one of these
people that I have to go.
I've said it in a previouspodcast.
I have to go all in.
If I'm going to do somethinglike properly, I need to go all
in.
So the last last time I went tothe gym, I went for about six
months, every single day.
I stopped drinking completely.
(13:09):
I went to the gym every day,became a boring bastard, didn't
want to do anything else otherthan eat, sleep and breathe the
gym.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
I was eating chicken.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
I was eating broccoli .
I was eating cauliflower fortoilet five times a day.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
No, it's a difference , massive difference.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
I was looking ripped.
It felt amazing.
But I went to the pub one nightafter work with my mate to have
a Coke and I ended up on about10 pints of Stella and I never
went back to the gym again,literally never went back.
Put about four stone on it intwo years.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
I think we put a lot of pressure, though there's a
lot of pressure on that,especially in the.
In the modern day world, if youdon't go to the gym, then
you're a useless human being.
Yeah, and there's a lot of.
There's a lot of things, butthere's so many other ways to
lose weight and be healthy byeating better, drinking lots of
water.
Don't drink enough water.
Now, how easy is it to drinkmore water?
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Somebody needs to be very clever and make water taste
like beer, because I would bethe most hydrated person on the
planet.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Again, it was Luke that said to me you must take a
water bottle everywhere, Becauseif you don't take a water
bottle everywhere, you won'tdrink your water.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
And it's so true.
I was going to ask you justbefore you told us about your
shoulder injury.
You've obviously gone to thegym loads.
You've obviously made somepretty stupid excuses to not
work out in the past.
Oh yeah, Must have done.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
I can't be arsed.
Oh no, I can't go to the gymtomorrow because I think my
tyre's flat on my car and I'mnot going to be able to get
there.
Do you know what I mean?
I used to make up when I usedto go to the public gym, if you
like, before I went to theprivate gym, darling.
When I went to the public gym,me and my mate used to go
(15:02):
together and we used to sort ofhold each other accountable for
it and I'd have to ask him whatthe excuses were.
But he used to get so fuckedoff with me like, mate, come on,
I need you to spot me, I needyou there, I can't do it without
you there.
And I was like, yeah, I've, uh,broke my toenail.
Um, oh, yeah, my dog's not well, uh, all this.
But if we do, I think we makeexcuses because it's not fun.
Yeah, there are some peoplethat absolutely love the gym.
(15:24):
Yeah, they love it, they love it, they love it, it, they love it
, they love it Good for them.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Problem is, though, they make everybody else feel so
inferior.
You roll up to the gym withyour belly hanging out and the
T-shirt that doesn't quite fityou properly, because you bought
a smaller size, because you'regoing to lose loads of weight at
the gym and you want to getyour monies out of it.
And then they're there, allprim, prim and proper, on the
treadmill doing 16 mile an hour.
Hello, like you're, you're outof breath.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
You've just walked up the stairs, you know like you
go to the, you go to the benchand you're picking up 15s and
they're picking up the 35s.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Yeah, just off the floor to put them back on the
shelf to get the 60s.
Yeah, I just the thing is withme.
I'm one of these people.
When I go to the gym I do feela bit inferior.
I do look at other people as ifthey're watching me, because
I'm crap.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Yeah.
I think they don't really it'slike anything after that.
It's uncomfortable, isn't it?
Yeah, it is uncomfortable, andit's having the confidence to
we're all right, we can all goto the gym.
I'm sure that no one's watchingyou being like, look at that,
not trying to lift them weights.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
He can't lift them.
I come out of the gym lookinglike a packet of potatoes.
Every time I look like a sackof shit.
Yesterday I forced myself towear a grey T-shirt Real face
your fears.
So your face was even more redby the colour of the T-shirt.
You sweat on a grey T-shirt.
It shows you know what I mean.
Like, if I'm going to look shit, I'm going to look proper shit.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Then we got the photo of it, didn't we?
Yeah, I took a picture of itand said I fucking hate the gym,
but, yeah, the excuses that wetell ourselves.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
And then I was also in the gym when Boris locked
down the country.
Literally get out, gym's closedand, as she said yesterday, get
out of the gym.
Yeah, get out of the gym.
Bad things happen when I go tothe gym, so that was the story
since 2001 that I told myselfI'll go to the gym.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Bad things happen.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
We've spoken about the gym a lot.
Let's start talking about food.
Oh yeah, that's better Food.
We all love food.
One of my favourite pastimes iseating what's your favourite.
What is your favourite thing toeat?
Is it healthy or is itunhealthy?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
It's unhealthy.
It's usually something wrappedin pastry, and that could be a
sausage roll.
It could be a venisonwellington, it doesn't matter.
Everything's better when it'swrapped in pastry salmon on crew
oh yeah posh I.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
I just love red meat steak steak.
I do these potatoes where yousort of slice them, you soak
them for a day in salt andgarlic and oil and stuff.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Right, we've just decided whose else we're going
to.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Then you have the cote de boeuf on the barbecue,
big fuck-off bit of steak likethis with a bit of salad, a bit
of potatoes and stuff.
That for me, is like heavenNice bit of steak, really nice
T-bones.
And that's what I do in thesummer, though, and I invite
people around and like ladsright, we're having a poker
(18:14):
night.
I'll host it.
I'll go to the butchers, spenda couple of hundred quid on
steaks.
We'll come around, we'll play abit of poker and we'll eat food
and we'll drink nice drink.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Yeah, we'll do it.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Do that on a tuesday can we do that instead of the
golf?
Speaker 3 (18:26):
you do that whenever you want.
I just I don't.
I love food.
I love food, I love cooking.
Um, well then, like I saidearlier, I love experimenting
with flavors.
I can't bake for shit, becausebaking's like more of a, it's a
scientific.
You've got to have this much ofthis and this much of this
specific yeah whereas, right,how much garlic do we want today
(18:49):
?
That'll do.
Let's see what that's like.
And every time, you can cookthe same meal a hundred times
and it will never be exactly thesame yeah, never taste exactly
the same what about you?
Speaker 1 (19:00):
well, I'm not really that experimental, to be honest.
I do like mixing my flavors upthough, so sometimes I'll have
cheese and chives Pringles orI'll have barbecue flavour, but
that is kind of my comfort food.
That is what I'll sit on thesofa and eat.
No, I love a steak.
I do love a steak.
I like a nice T-bone steak orsomething like that.
But I like junk food.
That's my favourite food, mate.
(19:20):
I've got no problem with junkfood.
It's quick If I'm at work, I candrive to McDonald's, I can
drive to Burger King, I can gowherever I want and get a burger
or curry If I'm going dirty andhorrible, mate, I'll go dirty
and horrible.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
I'll have a Rustler's , not even the branded one.
I'll have a Tesco home brand.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Rustler's.
Yeah, I don't stoop that low,to be fair.
Oh, I love it honestly.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
I'd rather have a bit of lettuce.
They're healthy.
It's before the microwave orafterwards no after.
You definitely do it after Idid a post about that on
facebook.
Once you know, you get thesegroups on facebook and they're
all like at each other.
Someone said something once andI'll put a photo on there of my
russell burger a bit of lettucein it.
I was like this is now healthybecause it's got and everybody's
.
Oh, they're ripping me like I'mbeing serious oh, I love it.
(20:04):
Oh, I bought a Rostle Burger.
I'll put a slice of lettuce init.
It's now healthy.
Party your five a day Likecrack on.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yeah, if I'm going cheap and nasty, there's no
limits.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
But how good.
I mean, it does feel reallygood when you eat healthy food
for a couple of days.
It does make you feel betterabout things, doesn't it?
When you just go, I'll havethree or four days where I feel
a bit rubbish and I'll go toMcDonald's and I'll eat a burger
, and then I'll go there in theafternoon and I'll get another
burger or something.
Or I'll go in the morning andget breakfast Hang over mate.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
There's nothing better.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
And then I'll go and get a burger in the afternoon,
and then the following day II'll be all lethargic and I
can't be asked to do anything.
There's no motivation.
And then you think to yourselfactually, food's quite
responsible for your mentalhealth and looking after
yourself as well.
And then, when you start tothink about it eat a little bit
more healthy it starts makingyou feel a bit different,
(20:54):
doesn't it?
Speaker 2 (20:54):
It really does.
Like I say, when I came offthat sugar, it was everything.
Healthy eating was everything.
There was a guy that that Iknow he passed away, bless his
heart.
He used to say to me I wouldhave a couple of beers on a
Wednesday and my default wouldbe start again on Monday.
I might as well enjoy Thursday,friday.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Saturday, Sunday.
You don't ever start anythingon a day other than a Monday.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Exactly right.
He said to me he went if youblew a tyre on your car, do you
go and put a chiv on the otherthree tyres?
I mean, of course you don't.
I mean of course you don't.
That's just one tyre on a fourwheel car.
What are you doing that for?
And you think shit.
I hated it.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
When he was right, I'll tell you what I do love a
burger like a proper nice burger.
I don't think you can go wrongwith a burger, burger and chips.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
I completely agree.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
I don't think you can go wrong with burger and chips
nice crispy onion rings.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Yeah, brioche barn and stuff, juice dribbling out
the side a lot the nice little.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
You got a tomato relish and the american mustard,
that that little combo.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
They go well yeah, just just burgers, burgers.
You can do so much with aburger.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
You can do so much with a burger that's a
generational thing, though,right, we're all of a similar
generation.
We grew up with the birth andthe rise of mcdonald's and
burger king and all that.
It's our generation that havenow built banging burger
restaurants, because our parents, they didn't give a monkeys
about burgers, did they?
Speaker 1 (22:19):
in those days, people making a living out of going
and visiting them, burgerrestaurants, I mean they're
doing reviews on them.
That's how many burger placesthere are now.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yeah, yeah because our generation grew up knowing
how freaking good a burger was,and now you've got some of the
best foods out there.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
I think, like you used to go to these festivals
and stuff, didn't you?
And you'd go to these open daysand spring festivals and that,
and you'd go around and you'djust With just the cheap burgers
frozen from the thing.
Now you go there, it's allgourmet food truck.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Yeah, they're not burger bars anymore, they're
street food.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
It's street food gourmet burgers from a cabin.
That's it.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
But, it's good I've got a mullet.
I'm not buying from it.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
And it's not reheated Do you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
It's not reheated.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
There's one I love down in Brighton.
Every time I go down toBrighton, outside the mall
you've got that little shackthat does the hot dogs and the
bratwurst and stuff Every singletime I go in there, mate, I'm
from Brighton, that has beenthere all my life.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
I was there 15 years ago.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
That was there Definitely, and when I talk
about going cheap and dirty,that's one of them.
I'm sure there's pig's eyeballsin that and the way we're all
talking about food.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
You can understand why food addiction is a thing
for certain people, can't you?
Yeah I mean what?
What's your, what's your viewson that?
Speaker 2 (23:30):
all right, I'm gonna get controversial here, and this
is what I quite like about thispodcast, because in all of my
other social media stuff I'mquite vanilla in the way that I
am.
Yeah, if you're so fat that youcan't tie your shoelaces, stop
eating all right, mate calm downsorry, sorry.
You don't get fat.
Suddenly you don't, and I'msaying this as a fat man.
(23:52):
There's a point where you go.
You know what?
I don't like this anymore Forpeople and I understand that
people have got significantmental health issues that might
go that far, significant sort ofinsecurity issues, but not
everybody.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
But if you can't tie your shoelaces, and you have to
put responsibility on peoplearound these people as well.
Oh mate, 100%, we've got athing at work.
Yeah, if one of us stink, we go.
You fucking stink, mate.
Sort yourself out.
You do, you know because youhave that respect for each other
.
There's got to be somebody,hopefully, in those people's
lives that go mate just insteadof eating those.
Why don't you just have one?
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Yeah, my boy is nine years old.
Look after your heart.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Look after your health a bit more, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Exactly kids.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Think about your children, you know, um, it's a
tough, it is a difficult subjectthis.
That's kind of why I broughtthat bit up.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
But you've got to have pride in your appearance,
right?
Yeah, my boy is nine years old.
We now make him put his jumperon after he's brushed his teeth.
And if he brushes his teeth andthere's stuff down there, I'd
say to him mate, you don't wantto be the kid in school with the
dirty jumper, you don't want tobe that kid.
You don't want to be the kid inschool that's got smelly
armpits, because that's abullying thing, isn't it?
(25:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (25:01):
yeah, Unfortunately there are some horrible people
out there who will pick on themost random, mind you, minuscule
things.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
And you don't want your kids being that.
Certainly you don't want yourkids being that.
If you've got mates like that?
Speaker 1 (25:12):
why would you not tell them?
I don't understand it.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
You've got to look out for each other.
Do you know what I mean, mate?
Come on, you're not healthy,you're not.
You've got to put down therustler burger and just just
rein it in a little bit do youknow what I mean?
And if you're listening to thisfrom rustlers we're looking for
(25:35):
sponsors.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
I enjoy a rustlers?
Yeah, from time to time.
But yeah, if you can't tie yourshoelaces, the answer isn't
Velcro.
You know what I mean?
The answer is yeah, oh dear.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
It's those inventions , isn't it?
I can't get my sock on, butI've got this new thing where,
if I, I can just I know I canlasso a sock around my toe.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Yeah, don't just don't change them.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
The next subject was going to be have you ever had an
issue with food?
Speaker 2 (26:00):
but obviously I'll take you as a no, des, because
you've made your point quite ano, because there's a voice on
my head that says you're reallyfat, mate, sort your life out.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Yeah so I'm going to drop a.
It's not a secret, I did go onthe Mondiano.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Oh did you?
Yeah, Mate, we know lots ofpeople that do Fair play to them
.
I've got one of my best mateswho's got a gastric band.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
I saw it and I thought, okay, well, if I can
have a bit of help.
I'm not.
Do you know what I mean?
According to the GP, I'mclinically obese and I shouldn't
be alive Me too.
But I thought let's give it ago.
(26:43):
Some of I found it and I did it.
And you go from the two and ahalf to the fives and that, and
at first I was all really scared.
I don't want to do it.
I don't want to jive myself now.
It's all it really did for me.
I lost 10 kilograms in 12 weeks.
I guess that's good, um, butall it did was really suppress
my appetite a little bit.
Yeah, I wouldn't eat during theday, um, and then I was reading
into it and they're like yeah,but what you're doing is you're
losing, like bone mass andyou're losing lots of other
(27:04):
things.
And I've got these cleverscales that do the thing, and it
was.
It was losing bone mass, I waslosing fluid retention, I was
losing other things.
Now I'm not.
I didn't look too deep into it,um, and then christmas hit and I
was like I'm not doing thisover christmas.
I've got the full family around.
We've got all the trimmings.
Talk about food.
I'll send you a photo of mychristmas spread.
(27:27):
It was literally mental and Idid this.
I did this thing.
I objected myself.
I went from the two and a halfto the five to the seven and a
half and then I started readingstuff and I did the 10 and then
I skipped a week and did a weekand that and literally, I think
within three or four weeks ofdoing it all that weight's just
come straight back.
Oh, really, literally, peoplesaid it.
(27:49):
They said as soon as you stopdoing it.
So it's almost like it's athing for life.
Now I did change the way I eat.
Um, we used to have a sandwichvan come around here and I'd be
doing seven, eight quid a day onbacon, rolls and burgers and
stuff.
Just because, just because Ilike eating, um, and yeah, I
think that a lot of the peoplethat say as soon as you come off
(28:09):
it, you will, you will put theweight straight back on I'm all
right.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
I think so.
It suppresses your appetite andit makes you fuller quicker.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Yeah, I don't yeah it definitely makes you fuller
quicker.
Yeah, I don't.
Yeah, it definitely makes youfuller quicker, so you wouldn't
eat the same size portions.
I could go all day withouteating anything, but I'd still
get home and I'd be absolutelyfucking starving, Like I would
be like right in straight in thedoor, fucking running in raid
in the fridge pulling everythingout, eating stuff while I'm
(28:39):
cooking dinner because I was sohungry.
And then I've made my dinnerand I can't eat it because I've
picked on little things.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
So it was the idea was.
The idea was was to do it, helpme lose a little bit and then
smash on with the gym.
But I never smashed on with thegym, I just did it and then.
Well, you're seeing results andI watch a lot of people on
TikTok and I messaged this guy.
This guy went from being a biglad to after like 16 weeks or so
.
Did you do?
(29:07):
He said no, I changed nothingelse about my life.
Yeah, for me that wasn't.
The idea was was to give me abit of a boost mentally.
Oh, you're losing weight, butyou're also going to, and I did,
I didn't.
It goes back to one of the otherepisodes we filmed about the
weather.
This was in the winter months.
I joined Pure Gym.
I was going for a couple ofweeks.
I was getting up three, fourmornings a week at half past
(29:28):
five, being in the gym for six,in work for quarter past seven.
Now in the summer I can do thatbecause it's sunshining.
Yeah, sun shining.
Yeah, getting out of bed to goto the gym in the morning.
The thing is, when you go tothe gym you come out and fucking
starving.
I want a steak.
Yeah, when I used to do themornings at like six in the
morning, do that four be like,oh god, I could murder a fucking
(29:48):
steak.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
now, like you get out the gym in the morning just so
hungry, but I guess you'reburning the yeah, you're burning
it, but this is the other thingabout food that fascinates me
and what I love about food.
So when you were on Monjaro andyou didn't have the appetite
and you weren't eating the bigportions, how did that affect
your relationship with your wife, when you were going out for
dinner, for example?
Speaker 3 (30:09):
I still love food.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
I still love food Still ordered it, just couldn't
eat it.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Yeah, I still ordered it.
No, I'd still eat it.
It's just I don't know.
It was weird.
It's really weird.
Some people have said Iliterally I couldn't eat, that I
couldn't eat.
I think there were certaintimes, because obviously you do
the injection once a week.
I think there were some times.
I think, after you do theinjection, the next day is like
when it's at its highest right,and then it's sort of and I used
to do the injections on amonday so then you're working at
(30:36):
the weekends.
It's probably sort of likeslightly worn off.
It's not.
It worked, don't get me wrong,but I don't know whether it was
all the other things thelowering your water retention,
your bone mass and things likethat.
I don't know whether it was amixture of everything.
Obviously, yeah, the portionsize is smaller, but I eat big
portions, like you should seethe size of the bloody sum of
(30:59):
the portions I eat.
Yeah, it's really, reallydifficult.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
It's interesting.
So people that I know that havespoken about their other arms
being on Monjaro, exactly likeone.
Guy took his partner away forher birthday weekend to a spa
and on the last night they weregoing to have a big sort of slap
up meal at this place, but shehad some scallops at lunch so
she didn't fancy dinner and hewas like cheap night.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Yeah, I'd like to get some of my Mrs on Manjaro Not
that she needs it, not that sheneeds it.
I thought I'd throw that inthere, he said.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
he said he's sitting there eating this three-course
dinner that he's already paidfor on his own, while she's
sitting there watching him.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Have you ever tried anything like Manjaro or
anything like that?
Speaker 2 (31:43):
No, no, I've tried lots of fad diets.
Yeah, what worked best for mewas the fasting one, because I
knew that I could go a day noteating anything but I could eat
tomorrow, and that did reallywell for me but, I've never had
anything like that I like theseafood diet Seafood, fucking
eat it.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Love that.
Thing is with diets and trainingregimes and everything your
body.
I mean, I'm not a scientist oranything, but obviously I know a
bit about supplements and thatthe way your body works, if
you're starving it of fats andstuff that it's been used to as
soon as you stop working out, assoon as you stop diet used to
as soon as you stop working out,as soon as you stop dieting, as
(32:20):
soon as you stop eating healthy, your body just stores all of
the shit that you're putting init again.
That's why you, that's why youput that weight on instantly,
because your body knows it'scoming and when it comes it's
going to grab hold of it withboth hands and store it and
store the life out of it,because all you're going to do
is you're going to starve it ofit again.
It's going to end up burningitself off again.
So unless you're dedicated tothe gym and you go every three
times a week or whatever, youcan eat what you want, I think.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Eat what you want.
Keep your exercise levels good.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
But that's why I don't exercise.
I'm on my feet all day at work.
I feel like I get my steps in.
If I didn't work on a buildingsite, I'd probably be about 19
stone, I would reckon.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Yeah, when I stopped playing, I was used to playing
football four times a week andthen I got an office job and it
just fucking that's it like withme now.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
I push pens around the desk for a living.
That's not much exercise, doingthis all day and that and then
enter and that and then pickingup the phone.
So that's where I really likeand obviously I've got all the
fields around here and then Iwant to try and do the steps
because that makes them.
If you could just do 10,000steps a day, five days a week,
(33:25):
that makes a massive difference.
Just mobility, just getting theblood flow.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Yeah, but what I don't tell you is that 10,000
steps is a lot of steps.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Yeah, it's pressure, isn't it?
It's pressure again on people,isn't it it is?
Speaker 2 (33:35):
And again it comes around to this ideal of we
should always be happy, weshould always be healthy, we
should always be this, andeveryone's just striving for
this.
And then, the day you don'tfeel happy or the day you don't
feel healthy, you instantlythink, well, is there something
wrong with me?
No, there, fucking isn't.
I had a shocking week last weekand I check in with my PT every
Saturday and I said to him Iwent nine times out of 10, I
(33:56):
would lie to you today and justsay, yeah, this happened, this
happened, this happened, and I'dlie to you about my weight.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
I've done 14 marathons this week, mate, did
you not hear?
Speaker 2 (34:05):
But I said to him I went, but straight up, honest, I
didn't fancy it.
I had a lot going on.
I knew I was making bad choices, I didn't care.
I knew I should have gone tothe gym.
I didn't go.
That's the end of that.
But I still want to bemotivated to do better next week
.
And he's come back and gonethat's life, yeah, that's what
you're meant to do.
Anyone that says to you or youshould be doing this
(34:26):
consistently every week, that'sjust unrealistic.
Yeah, and I've.
That meant more to me than akick up the ass.
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (34:33):
and I think, to be fair, that's probably a good way
to finish this podcast, to bequite honest.
So, uh, thanks for listening,thanks for watching.
Uh, make sure you like, scribeand share this.
Oh, fuck off.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Keep that in.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Uh well, I'd say that's a pretty good place to
stop the podcast today, then,boys.
Um, thanks for watching today,guys, and listening.
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