June 28, 2025 • 25 mins
In the final part of this special series, we talk confidence, comparison, and carving out a space where you don’t have to play small to succeed.
This one’s all about:
- Saying no to the wrong clients
- Letting go of people who don’t get it
- Being unapologetically YOU
- And why you don’t need to “make it”—you just need to live well
It’s a rallying cry for women to stop waiting for permission. You don’t need it.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
I didn't have that community support.
I didn't think I did, but itturns out I did.
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I really struggle with authority working under
people.
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Consistency pays off.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
In the moment of those lows, you forget that
actually for that one low momentthere was ten wins, but you
forget those.
You can't be for everybody andI just think put out what you
want to attract.
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Hello everyone, and welcomeback to another episode of the
untold podcast, social media.
And does it ever?
Do you ever compare likecomparison?
Do you ever compare yourself toother people because of these
(01:12):
highlight reels and think, oh,why is my life not like that?
And then take a step back andbe like hold on, my life is like
that.
If I only ever posted the goodbits.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Oh yeah, I'm quite good at seeing that.
I don't let social media trickme into thinking I'm not doing a
good job as a mother and as abusiness owner.
I I know full well I could makea reel now of all the best bits
of my kids and look like adream mother.
I know I could same with thebusiness.
I could pull apart all the bestthings that happened to me in
(01:42):
the last eight years in thatshop and make it look like I am
smashing it.
But, um, I'm, I'm not trickedinto thinking I'm not as good as
the next person.
I know full well I'm not thebest paid florist, but I know
full well I'm not the worst paidflorist.
I know I'm not the best floristand I know I'm not the worst
florist.
But I've got a space and I'mfilling it well and I've got the
(02:03):
clientele that I want.
Um, I wouldn't take, I wouldn'tsay no to more, but I'm not.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I won't be tricked into social media making me not
feel good enough do you thinkthat's like partly our age group
, though, because we've kind ofgrown up without?
It without social media?
Yeah then, with it, I Offsocial media.
Yeah Then with it.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
I worry for the kids now.
Yeah, not knowing any differentbecause they're growing up
thinking that these things arenormal and I constantly have to
remind the kids that what theysee online is not.
It's not life, it's not real,and they could make it look like
that for them as well, but it'snot real.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Definitely Social, it's not real, definitely Social
.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
You've got to use it in the like.
Social media is one of the bestways for me to sell.
I make most of my marketing ison social media and a lot of my
sales come off the back ofsocial media and stuff I've
posted.
And 90% of my weddings willcome in.
Because they saw one of theweddings I've done online and my
(03:04):
subscriptions, or I've nevermarketed my subscriptions
anywhere other than social media, so all my subscription clients
are off social media.
Um, and people tagging me whenpeople are asking for
recommendations.
That's how?
Speaker 3 (03:16):
yeah, that's how.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Danny found me was when she asked if there was a
florist and it you know.
There was lots of peoplerecommending me on social media.
So I see social media as areally positive thing for my
business.
I don't do social media so muchfor a personal.
I don't have a personalInstagram.
I use social media for business.
But I don't think I'm trickedinto thinking that's real life
(03:38):
when I see these things onsocial media about all these
success stories.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
And I think the world is coming more inviting to
authentic content yeah now theway things have changed.
Obviously, before, if youwanted to put an advert on telly
50 000 pound plus the cameracrew, plus this to create a 30
second ad you can now do it fromyour phone.
Yeah, you'll relate to peopleand you'll build super fans.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yeah, from being authentic yeah, people want raw
and people don't want to see thehighlight reels anymore, like,
and I think that is might be ourage group as well even more, so
like because we don't quitelucky that we've seen it.
The world with and withoutsocial media the kids to see all
this like highlighting reels,and yeah, we don't want that, we
(04:25):
want people well, I don't wantthem to look at it and think my
mum doesn't do that with me butalso, like you know, I've
noticed a lot of my instagramfeed is is turning out to be
obviously I follow lots of homerenovations and garden
renovation, things like thathome lifestyle and a lot of it
that appeals to me and thealgorithm has figured out
(04:45):
appeals to me is really swearyblokes, just trying really hard
to make something look good,yeah, and winging it.
That's what I really reallylike.
I really like that personallyand I would.
I yeah also you.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
I think you'll attract what you put out.
So I my shop.
Sometimes I've had some quitelike rude edgy signs in my shop,
like that a bit not like swearybut a bit edgy, and I had
someone come and complain to meonce because I had an, a board
outside my shop and it saidsomething along the lines of it
was something about encouraginga man to buy a wife flowers.
(05:21):
And she came in she said I findthat really offensive.
Why, why can't I buy myselfflowers?
Oh, and I was like well, youcan, you know, karen, you can
buy yourself flowers.
I wasn't aiming that board atyour husband, if you want to buy
yourself flowers.
Buy yourself flowers.
I am here for it, like it'sjust.
It's just an off off the cuff.
You know, tongue-in-cheekcomment funny and 90% of people
(05:42):
walk past and I could hearpeople giggling as they walk
past this a board and I quiteoften put funny a boards outside
the shop and that one personand she walked out and I just
thought you are not my customeryeah.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I'm not gonna take that you are not my customer.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
You don't get me and I don't.
I just.
I just just that wholepersonality clash.
You can't be for everybody andI just think put out what you
want to attract, cause I'm outfor like fun, stylish, artistic
people, even if they're notartistic themselves but can
appreciate something a littlebit different.
That's not like, um you know,into flora type or supermarket
(06:15):
style flowers.
They're unusual, my flowers,they cost a little bit more but
they'll last longer and they'reunusual.
You won't get what you're goingto get and someone will know
you've got that from a florist,and a good florist, and not just
from the station like you can't.
No one's going to wonder if youspent five quid on that.
You didn't.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
They're going to know you spent decent money on that,
okay your flowers for clientgifting yeah, because for me
it's free marketing, because thethoughts gone into it, yeah,
but also because your flowersare so different yeah, and I
mean, I can even give kelly abrief and say their bathroom was
pink and red.
Yeah, for example.
Yeah, and she'll go all right,cool, let me put something
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together and some of the clientswill be like, oh my god, you've
chosen all the colors from mybathroom like there's that
little bit of extra thought thatactually didn't cost anymore.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
That tiny little bit of thought didn't cost anymore,
but it had big impact, like itwas valuable and they're sitting
on their kitchen counter andthen their best friends coming.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I love those flowers, where'd you?
Get those bathroom designer mybathroom designer sent them to
us.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
It's free marketing, yeah, yeah oh yeah, it's it's
amazing it's, and it's just likeyou say you've got a space and
your're owning your space yeahyou don't, you're not gonna ever
be everyone's cup of tea, andif you're trying to be
everyone's, cup of tea.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
You're gonna fall on your ass.
Yeah, you are.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
You've got to choose your, your target audience and
just do it well if you follow,if you follow picked another
florist and done everything thatthey did, it's not gonna work
yeah, no it's not if you pickedanother ripple showroom and had
it identical to what.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
They wouldn't work.
It wouldn't work.
People want to see personality.
They want to see and, like yousaid right at the beginning,
people buy into you as a personas well.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
All my consultations for my bathrooms is about them
trying to figure out if I'm forthem.
Just as much as can we worktogether you know, we get along
together.
Do you think I get you?
And you know, normally I've gota great read on people.
Normally I do get them and butsome people you just they just,
you just don't, and it just,there's just something there.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Would you turn around a job if you felt that they
like not so much seeing redflags but just thought we, we
don't vibe.
Would you there?
Speaker 2 (08:24):
have been a couple yeah, that um, where I've have
also had to teach this to ourdesigner as well, where I've
been, like you know what, don'tbe afraid to this is probably
going to cause us more problemsthan it's worth down the line
because this it's just not quite.
They don't quite get what we'redoing yeah and we can't seem to
quite get what they're askingfor, and that doesn't happen
(08:44):
very often, yeah, but sometimesyou just can't quite get what
we're doing.
Yeah, and we can't seem toquite get what they're asking
for, and that doesn't happenvery often, but sometimes you
just can't quite get that.
That was a turning point for mein my career was learning when
to say no.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
No Like not saying yes to every job.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
It's a really nice thing though, isn't it yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:58):
To be able to do it.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
See, I don't think we're not at that point I
haven't been doing it.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
I have to take what I can, yeah but if I know, but
you will get to that point in mygut.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Going back to the gut thing again.
Yeah, I know in my gut thatit's just not gonna go right the
juice isn't worth the squeezeyeah, yeah, then I will just be
like you know what, we'll justlet that one naturally fizzle
out, yeah, and you know, we'lljust call that one a day and
that's fine, that's okay.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
It's okay to let things go, if you know,
sometimes it is, and it's justyeah, we're too young as well
like business wise.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
We're too young to take on too many problems yeah,
as well, like being completelyraw, and you have to factor that
in because you know if I've gotto fix a bathroom, that costs
25 grand.
Yeah, can make a break.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Where's that coming from?
Speaker 2 (09:49):
so it is.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
It's quite difficult my side of the industry really I
can imagine well, let's wrapthis up, then go back to when
you started.
One bit of advice that you giveto someone else in your shoes.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
The one bit of advice I would give to somebody else,
what do you wish that?
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Someone told you.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Someone told you Before you started your I'm
going out on my own, I'm goingto boss bitch this, let's
fucking do it.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Wear a condom.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Don't have any kids, don't do it with the family in
tow.
I would say, actually, just gofor it, because I do genuinely
think, as cliche as it is andI'm making myself ick as I'm
about to say it life is tooshort, yeah, to sit there wonder
if you get that opportunity forin your lap, like you know,
(10:45):
very sadly, opportunity wasinheritance and that's a very
sad thing.
But also that doesn't happenvery often to a couple that were
living off 80 quid a week withtwo children and then three
children.
That's what we were living off.
We were living off 80 quid aweek and scraping by and debt up
to our eyeballs.
And you know, like I said, Iwas.
(11:07):
You know I had children fromthe age of 21, so we were so
young as well.
I was still young, I think 32still young okay, it's still
young.
Um, you know, I think, when anopportunity comes or that bright
idea comes and you can't notenvision yourself standing
outside your shop yeah you have,you should just do it and you
(11:30):
should go and find any physicalpossible way of making it happen
.
Just make it happen because youjust I mean, we live a much
nicer life now.
We haven't made it.
Yeah, we haven't made it.
There's still a lot of work tobe done, but we're not living
off 80 quid a week you're alsohappy like content day-to-day.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
We've got to work.
Yeah, I think that is worth somuch in itself If you can find
something that you love doingand that you have a passion for
make it your business.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah, and make it successful, yeah, because you
don't have that dread in themorning.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
It's no longer work, is it?
Speaker 1 (12:08):
No, if you enjoy what you do, it's your lifestyle and
it becomes your lifestyle Ifyou're really passionate about
something and you can make somemoney out of that, you will make
it work.
Yeah, there will be lows andyou'll think it's not working.
But you, if you really arepassionate about something for
you it's designing bathrooms andgetting that customer
satisfaction at the end ifyou're really and for me it's
like the creative, the art and Ijust chose flowers, like I said
(12:30):
, as my medium instead of paintor whatever if you're really
passionate about it and you canturn it into an income, it will
work.
It will dip up and down.
It's not always going to be oh,like a yo-yo.
Yeah, it's not like it's sounusual for it just to take off
and you're going to become amillionaire.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
And you know, I don't even want to be a millionaire,
I just want to be able to liveyeah, I just want to go and do a
food shop and not worry toomuch about how much it's going
to cost, and I want to be ableto buy all the kids uniform when
they run out of bloody shoesbecause they're scuffed them all
not have to stretch it to thenext high term, you know, and
not have to stretch it out, justto be able to be like it's
(13:09):
alright, mate, we can go and getyou another 20 quid pair of
shoes like no problem, whereasbefore that would have been a
nightmare for me.
Yeah, you know.
So that's just being comfortableis lovely actually and I see it
as a quite a luxury where weare, and we are, like I say,
nowhere near made it at all.
You know we're really not, butit's so much more than what we
(13:31):
had, yeah, and and you enjoydoing it and I love doing it,
apart from Mondays.
Mondays are terrible, it'salways a problem day, but, yeah,
love doing what I do and it's,and I love doing it.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Apart from Mondays.
Mondays are terrible.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
It's always a problem day, but yeah, I love doing
what I do and it's what I'vewanted to do for years.
And you know, I even had littledreams of like moving to
Cornwall and opening my ownlittle bathroom shop there and
it just ended up happening thisway and I wouldn't change it and
I want more, I want another one, I probably.
I want to have three.
I mean like I said, I'm 32.
(13:59):
Our franchise contracts last 10years, so I could have another
two I just got.
This is my baby that I've got.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Get the first one right, get this one.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Turning perfectly.
Once that happens, I want more.
Yeah, because I love ripplesand I love what I do and I love,
I love it.
I really, really do and I hopethat any you know younger people
early 20s are just having thatseed of I'd love to do that for
themselves.
Do it as soon as you get thatlittle thing in your head.
(14:35):
I'd love to do that.
Go and do it.
Yeah, just go and do it.
Make it your life mission to goand get it done, because if
you're doing it with passion,you're gonna love it forever and
it will work and nine times outof ten, and I spoke to someone
about this other day who quittheir job to go on their own.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
I said, okay, hold on .
You're worried about losingyour safety blanket?
You've got a bit of moneybehind you.
You can last for six months.
If it doesn't work, how hardwould it be for you to go and
get your old job back?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yeah, I could walk into any bathroom design job.
I genuinely could and I'd get a.
You could walk into any florist.
I'd hate it, You'd hate it.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
But your backup plan, but you don't need to now
because you've done it on yourown.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah, I think that you know it's not.
It's a risk, but it's not atthe same time if you love it,
and there's always a way out.
If it did fall on its ass, yeahthere's a way back out yeah, I
think just doing that withchildren is extra scary yeah, it
(15:34):
is, oh it is you've got to havea.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Don't be stupid, don't go to your boss now I
don't know yet, but danny, dannysaid go and do it now.
What about you?
Kelly, apart from wearing acondom, don't do it with kids
what would I have told me what?
Do you wish someone had toldyou?
Speaker 1 (15:57):
oh god, I really don't know that accountancy is
really bloody hard, yeah, yeahoh gosh.
Honestly, I don't know whatwould what would I wish someone
had have told me I had it.
I'm so lucky I had someonetelling me what I needed to be
told and that was just that Icould do it and not to worry and
(16:18):
just go and smash it.
I actually had that.
Oh, that was a moment.
Yeah, that was a moment.
I had it.
I had.
I had a lot of support.
I had a lot of people goingyou're really good at this.
I did not realize how much Ithrive off of compliments.
My god, I need to be told everyday, every day, that what I'm
doing is good.
I, if I didn't have a shop andI didn't have people walking in
(16:39):
constantly saying your shop'slovely, oh, this is so nice, oh,
wow, did you make that?
I don't think I would be okay.
I need compliments all the time, all the time, reassurance that
what I'm doing is really good,even though I know that I'm
quite good at flowers.
I need people to tell me it allthe time.
Yeah, and I had that when Istarted.
I had people saying you'rereally good at what you do.
You can make a living out ofthis.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I mean your whole husband, your whole, my whole
husband, all of him literallyjust went yeah, smash this
support.
I'm gonna tell you, mind that Iwish someone had told me what
was involved in running abusiness and it wasn't just
doing what you love.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
You have to do all the shit stuff too, and you
can't delegate it at first.
You have to do it all.
You have to do the bookkeepingand finding the receipts at the
bottom of your handbag at theend of the month.
You have to do all the customeremails and the customer service
and the marketing and thewebsite and the banking and, for
me, the delivery driving, andyou have to do it all.
(17:33):
You cannot afford to delegatethat out to anybody else and I
wasn't prepared for that.
I don't know what like magicaccountant.
I thought I was going to pullout of my ass in the first year
but um, turns out there's a lotof.
There's only so much anaccountant can do for you.
They actually need you to keepstuff organized, yeah.
(17:53):
I actually still don't do thatlittle.
Shout out to my Lawrence, whodoes all my like keeping my
receipts organized and mybanking organized.
I literally couldn't survivewithout him.
I don't know what I would do ifI didn't have him.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Surround yourself with people that support you.
Yeah, oh, yeah, that'sdefinitely a good takeaway.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Yeah, it is.
And if they don't support you,then just don't ask them, don't
let it put you off, just findnew people.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
I think I had a lot of people actually when they
realised how, because I wouldhave been 29 when I signed my
signed my franchisee contractand obviously three children,
young kids, and actually yousaying that, thinking back, I
had a lot of people going.
I don't know how you're gonnado this oh, I get that every day
.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Still now, how do you do it?
How are you gonna?
Speaker 2 (18:39):
how are you gonna run a whole business?
Who's gonna take the kids toschool and I'm like well, not
fucking me.
My husband's gonna do it.
We're all the only.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
I get it all the time I feel like lots of people put
me on a bit of a pedestalsometimes and they go yeah, how
do you do it?
Speaker 3 (18:51):
and I think oh, I feel like just show up every day
because I just do also.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Um, I don't know if anyone knows this, but I have a
full-time living nanny andhousekeeper called paul, and he
does quite a lot too, so likethere's a thing for men is that
they don't get enough credit forthe slack they pick up when
they're married to a careerwoman yeah to a woman in
business.
They pick up a lot of the slackand paul goes to birthday
(19:19):
parties sometimes and the womenthere go oh isn't it good that
you bought them?
Speaker 2 (19:23):
and he's like why, I'm a dad, I'm doing what I do
like why?
Speaker 1 (19:27):
why is?
Speaker 2 (19:27):
it good that I bought them.
I feel like sean has also hadit before um where they've been
like, oh, you're saddled withthe kids again.
Sean's like they are my kidsthey're my children.
I love them.
Like he's great, I get to spendall this time yeah and he does,
he loves it yeah so yeah, menactually, yeah, I think you're
right, some men actually getreally um like the raw and down
(19:50):
when actually they're doing justa greater job.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Yeah, any other mum would be no one really says to
paul oh how do you do it whenthey're considering like kids?
And what no one says to him, oh, how do you do it with four?
Kids at a job but people say itto me all the time and you do
feel like a bit of a fraudbecause I think, well, it's not
just me yeah, but, and you showup every day and you make it
work in the summer holidays.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
You make it work right kids.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Guess what we're doing today.
We're going to chop roast we'redoing this.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
My kids have all been brought up in the back of the
shop.
They've all spent theirchildhoods, but I think it's
important I think it's reallyimportant for kids, especially
in today.
Like I fear for the kidsgrowing up today, like our kids,
I fear for them because it's sohard yeah, it's so hard to get
ahead in life it's so hard, butno one puts it out there like
they think they can become aninstagram influencer yeah, and
(20:41):
be a millionaire pinningthemselves on.
That's what's going to happenunlikely that they're going to
be.
That one that makes money outof being on Instagram, yeah, and
, but it's so hard.
When I have my son turn to meand he's like I want to be a
famous gamer, like there'speople playing games now earning
millions of pounds, like that.
That is true they are, butthey're the ones you're seeing.
You're not seeing these hundredsof millions of people that
(21:04):
don't make it and have got nomoney, and it'd be great if you
got there and I want you to beambitious and I want you to work
hard.
But don't bring your whole life, but yeah, please don't pin
your whole life on it have it asa passion.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Yeah, have it as a passion.
If it works, it's good.
If it works, it works my boywants to be a footballer.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Yeah, I'm like that's great mate, let's do football.
You're really good at it and heis really good and if you get
scouted, then right fantastic,it'd be great, but don't assume
that's what's gonna happen foryou, because life is a funny way
of handing out lots ofdifferent things that can happen
and you can't pin everything.
You're going to be a footballer, you've got to think.
(21:40):
I keep telling him he should bea bathroom fitter, because the
industry is running out of youngpeople to do that well no one
wants to do it.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
They don't want to do it because they're hooked on
instagram and not getting theirhands done.
Oh yeah, I want a ferrari as mycompany car my first day and
stuff, and it's hard.
So I think it's important forthe kids.
My kids love coming in to workwith me.
They want to come to work withme.
Sometimes they're bored after20 minutes, yeah, but I think
it's important to show them thatyou've got to work hard in
(22:09):
order to have right kids.
My daughter ella goes to medaddy, have you taken some more
money from work again?
How did you afford?
You told me, you had no money.
You've taken money do you knowwhat I mean and it's just yeah,
you do the things you do foryourself, for your kids, but I
think it's really important thatthey see both parents working.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Yeah, yeah, I think you're right.
I was in Sainsbury's yesterday.
We've got to smash these genderroles.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Yeah, yeah, we've just got to, yeah for sure.
I was in and there was a kidplaying up it must have been
seven or eight years old playingup and they'd opened.
The mum was going don't openthe pasta, don't open the pasta.
And the kids opened the pastaand it's all over the floor in
the middle of the same room.
Well, that wasn't very goodthinking, was it?
(22:58):
That wasn't very good thinkingand I'm like nah.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
You're never, ever, never, ever ever gonna you, you
stupid twat right, get on yourhands and knees you're gonna be
picking
Speaker 3 (23:13):
everything I'm gonna cook your dinner with it and I
just think that there's too muchof this and the kids need to
know that it is hard out there.
We've got to teach them thatit's tough, especially with
social media.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
I feel sorry for the kids that are being brought up.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Gentle parenting, because when their boss shouts
at them, one day it's going totear them apart.
Someone bullies them at school.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Yeah, someone on the road, road rage.
It's just going to tear themapart.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Oh my God, yeah, yeah , he said naughty words, it's
naughty words, but yeah, no,that's something it's going to
be difficult for them.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
I really do, but I'm really like well about having
three boys and you probably feelthe same.
I'm really passionate aboutmaking sure that then they don't
turn into this sort of Andrew.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Tate yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
I'm really passionate about making sure that actually
they know that women can work,yeah, and that you, sean praises
the ground I walk on to behonest I think they are learning
from yeah, that's great reallynice it sounds like they are
from paul, yeah so I thinkthat's really important, by that
us being in business and beingso obsessed with our own
(24:21):
business that the kids areseeing how actually women can
smash it just as much as men can.
Yeah, that's really important.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Yeah, I think so.
But I also think it's importantto tell your girls that your
boys, they shouldn't be wearingdresses.
But that's just my take.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
That's a whole other podcast.
That's a whole other podcast,isn't it?
Speaker 3 (24:42):
But no, thank you very much, girls Pleasure.
Thanks for having us.
I hope you enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
It's always good to get a woman's perspective on
things right.
It's always good to get awoman's perspective on things.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
So if you listened, if you watched, thank you very
much.
That's been Kelly from BellaJune Flowers and Danielle from
Ripple's Bathrooms in Linfield.
Thank you, bye.
I didn't have that community support.
I didn't think I did, but itturns out I did.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
I really struggle with authority working under
people.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Consistency pays off.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
In the moment of those lows, you forget that
actually for that one low momentthere was ten wins, but you
forget those.
You can't be for everybody andI just think put out what you
want to attract.
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Hello everyone, and welcomeback to another episode of the
untold podcast, social media.
And does it ever?
Do you ever compare likecomparison?
Do you ever compare yourself toother people because of these
(01:12):
highlight reels and think, oh,why is my life not like that?
And then take a step back andbe like hold on, my life is like
that.
If I only ever posted the goodbits.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Oh yeah, I'm quite good at seeing that.
I don't let social media trickme into thinking I'm not doing a
good job as a mother and as abusiness owner.
I I know full well I could makea reel now of all the best bits
of my kids and look like adream mother.
I know I could same with thebusiness.
I could pull apart all the bestthings that happened to me in
(01:42):
the last eight years in thatshop and make it look like I am
smashing it.
But, um, I'm, I'm not trickedinto thinking I'm not as good as
the next person.
I know full well I'm not thebest paid florist, but I know
full well I'm not the worst paidflorist.
I know I'm not the best floristand I know I'm not the worst
florist.
But I've got a space and I'mfilling it well and I've got the
(02:03):
clientele that I want.
Um, I wouldn't take, I wouldn'tsay no to more, but I'm not.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I won't be tricked into social media making me not
feel good enough do you thinkthat's like partly our age group
, though, because we've kind ofgrown up without?
It without social media?
Yeah then, with it, I Offsocial media.
Yeah Then with it.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
I worry for the kids now.
Yeah, not knowing any differentbecause they're growing up
thinking that these things arenormal and I constantly have to
remind the kids that what theysee online is not.
It's not life, it's not real,and they could make it look like
that for them as well, but it'snot real.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Definitely Social, it's not real, definitely Social
.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
You've got to use it in the like.
Social media is one of the bestways for me to sell.
I make most of my marketing ison social media and a lot of my
sales come off the back ofsocial media and stuff I've
posted.
And 90% of my weddings willcome in.
Because they saw one of theweddings I've done online and my
(03:04):
subscriptions, or I've nevermarketed my subscriptions
anywhere other than social media, so all my subscription clients
are off social media.
Um, and people tagging me whenpeople are asking for
recommendations.
That's how?
Speaker 3 (03:16):
yeah, that's how.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Danny found me was when she asked if there was a
florist and it you know.
There was lots of peoplerecommending me on social media.
So I see social media as areally positive thing for my
business.
I don't do social media so muchfor a personal.
I don't have a personalInstagram.
I use social media for business.
But I don't think I'm trickedinto thinking that's real life
(03:38):
when I see these things onsocial media about all these
success stories.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
And I think the world is coming more inviting to
authentic content yeah now theway things have changed.
Obviously, before, if youwanted to put an advert on telly
50 000 pound plus the cameracrew, plus this to create a 30
second ad you can now do it fromyour phone.
Yeah, you'll relate to peopleand you'll build super fans.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yeah, from being authentic yeah, people want raw
and people don't want to see thehighlight reels anymore, like,
and I think that is might be ourage group as well even more, so
like because we don't quitelucky that we've seen it.
The world with and withoutsocial media the kids to see all
this like highlighting reels,and yeah, we don't want that, we
(04:25):
want people well, I don't wantthem to look at it and think my
mum doesn't do that with me butalso, like you know, I've
noticed a lot of my instagramfeed is is turning out to be
obviously I follow lots of homerenovations and garden
renovation, things like thathome lifestyle and a lot of it
that appeals to me and thealgorithm has figured out
(04:45):
appeals to me is really swearyblokes, just trying really hard
to make something look good,yeah, and winging it.
That's what I really reallylike.
I really like that personallyand I would.
I yeah also you.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
I think you'll attract what you put out.
So I my shop.
Sometimes I've had some quitelike rude edgy signs in my shop,
like that a bit not like swearybut a bit edgy, and I had
someone come and complain to meonce because I had an, a board
outside my shop and it saidsomething along the lines of it
was something about encouraginga man to buy a wife flowers.
(05:21):
And she came in she said I findthat really offensive.
Why, why can't I buy myselfflowers?
Oh, and I was like well, youcan, you know, karen, you can
buy yourself flowers.
I wasn't aiming that board atyour husband, if you want to buy
yourself flowers.
Buy yourself flowers.
I am here for it, like it'sjust.
It's just an off off the cuff.
You know, tongue-in-cheekcomment funny and 90% of people
(05:42):
walk past and I could hearpeople giggling as they walk
past this a board and I quiteoften put funny a boards outside
the shop and that one personand she walked out and I just
thought you are not my customeryeah.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I'm not gonna take that you are not my customer.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
You don't get me and I don't.
I just.
I just just that wholepersonality clash.
You can't be for everybody andI just think put out what you
want to attract, cause I'm outfor like fun, stylish, artistic
people, even if they're notartistic themselves but can
appreciate something a littlebit different.
That's not like, um you know,into flora type or supermarket
(06:15):
style flowers.
They're unusual, my flowers,they cost a little bit more but
they'll last longer and they'reunusual.
You won't get what you're goingto get and someone will know
you've got that from a florist,and a good florist, and not just
from the station like you can't.
No one's going to wonder if youspent five quid on that.
You didn't.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
They're going to know you spent decent money on that,
okay your flowers for clientgifting yeah, because for me
it's free marketing, because thethoughts gone into it, yeah,
but also because your flowersare so different yeah, and I
mean, I can even give kelly abrief and say their bathroom was
pink and red.
Yeah, for example.
Yeah, and she'll go all right,cool, let me put something
(06:53):
together and some of the clientswill be like, oh my god, you've
chosen all the colors from mybathroom like there's that
little bit of extra thought thatactually didn't cost anymore.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
That tiny little bit of thought didn't cost anymore,
but it had big impact, like itwas valuable and they're sitting
on their kitchen counter andthen their best friends coming.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I love those flowers, where'd you?
Get those bathroom designer mybathroom designer sent them to
us.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
It's free marketing, yeah, yeah oh yeah, it's it's
amazing it's, and it's just likeyou say you've got a space and
your're owning your space yeahyou don't, you're not gonna ever
be everyone's cup of tea, andif you're trying to be
everyone's, cup of tea.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
You're gonna fall on your ass.
Yeah, you are.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
You've got to choose your, your target audience and
just do it well if you follow,if you follow picked another
florist and done everything thatthey did, it's not gonna work
yeah, no it's not if you pickedanother ripple showroom and had
it identical to what.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
They wouldn't work.
It wouldn't work.
People want to see personality.
They want to see and, like yousaid right at the beginning,
people buy into you as a personas well.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
All my consultations for my bathrooms is about them
trying to figure out if I'm forthem.
Just as much as can we worktogether you know, we get along
together.
Do you think I get you?
And you know, normally I've gota great read on people.
Normally I do get them and butsome people you just they just,
you just don't, and it just,there's just something there.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Would you turn around a job if you felt that they
like not so much seeing redflags but just thought we, we
don't vibe.
Would you there?
Speaker 2 (08:24):
have been a couple yeah, that um, where I've have
also had to teach this to ourdesigner as well, where I've
been, like you know what, don'tbe afraid to this is probably
going to cause us more problemsthan it's worth down the line
because this it's just not quite.
They don't quite get what we'redoing yeah and we can't seem to
quite get what they're askingfor, and that doesn't happen
(08:44):
very often, yeah, but sometimesyou just can't quite get what
we're doing.
Yeah, and we can't seem toquite get what they're asking
for, and that doesn't happenvery often, but sometimes you
just can't quite get that.
That was a turning point for mein my career was learning when
to say no.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
No Like not saying yes to every job.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
It's a really nice thing though, isn't it yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:58):
To be able to do it.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
See, I don't think we're not at that point I
haven't been doing it.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
I have to take what I can, yeah but if I know, but
you will get to that point in mygut.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Going back to the gut thing again.
Yeah, I know in my gut thatit's just not gonna go right the
juice isn't worth the squeezeyeah, yeah, then I will just be
like you know what, we'll justlet that one naturally fizzle
out, yeah, and you know, we'lljust call that one a day and
that's fine, that's okay.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
It's okay to let things go, if you know,
sometimes it is, and it's justyeah, we're too young as well
like business wise.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
We're too young to take on too many problems yeah,
as well, like being completelyraw, and you have to factor that
in because you know if I've gotto fix a bathroom, that costs
25 grand.
Yeah, can make a break.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Where's that coming from?
Speaker 2 (09:49):
so it is.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
It's quite difficult my side of the industry really I
can imagine well, let's wrapthis up, then go back to when
you started.
One bit of advice that you giveto someone else in your shoes.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
The one bit of advice I would give to somebody else,
what do you wish that?
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Someone told you.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Someone told you Before you started your I'm
going out on my own, I'm goingto boss bitch this, let's
fucking do it.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Wear a condom.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Don't have any kids, don't do it with the family in
tow.
I would say, actually, just gofor it, because I do genuinely
think, as cliche as it is andI'm making myself ick as I'm
about to say it life is tooshort, yeah, to sit there wonder
if you get that opportunity forin your lap, like you know,
(10:45):
very sadly, opportunity wasinheritance and that's a very
sad thing.
But also that doesn't happenvery often to a couple that were
living off 80 quid a week withtwo children and then three
children.
That's what we were living off.
We were living off 80 quid aweek and scraping by and debt up
to our eyeballs.
And you know, like I said, Iwas.
(11:07):
You know I had children fromthe age of 21, so we were so
young as well.
I was still young, I think 32still young okay, it's still
young.
Um, you know, I think, when anopportunity comes or that bright
idea comes and you can't notenvision yourself standing
outside your shop yeah you have,you should just do it and you
(11:30):
should go and find any physicalpossible way of making it happen
.
Just make it happen because youjust I mean, we live a much
nicer life now.
We haven't made it.
Yeah, we haven't made it.
There's still a lot of work tobe done, but we're not living
off 80 quid a week you're alsohappy like content day-to-day.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
We've got to work.
Yeah, I think that is worth somuch in itself If you can find
something that you love doingand that you have a passion for
make it your business.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah, and make it successful, yeah, because you
don't have that dread in themorning.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
It's no longer work, is it?
Speaker 1 (12:08):
No, if you enjoy what you do, it's your lifestyle and
it becomes your lifestyle Ifyou're really passionate about
something and you can make somemoney out of that, you will make
it work.
Yeah, there will be lows andyou'll think it's not working.
But you, if you really arepassionate about something for
you it's designing bathrooms andgetting that customer
satisfaction at the end ifyou're really and for me it's
like the creative, the art and Ijust chose flowers, like I said
(12:30):
, as my medium instead of paintor whatever if you're really
passionate about it and you canturn it into an income, it will
work.
It will dip up and down.
It's not always going to be oh,like a yo-yo.
Yeah, it's not like it's sounusual for it just to take off
and you're going to become amillionaire.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
And you know, I don't even want to be a millionaire,
I just want to be able to liveyeah, I just want to go and do a
food shop and not worry toomuch about how much it's going
to cost, and I want to be ableto buy all the kids uniform when
they run out of bloody shoesbecause they're scuffed them all
not have to stretch it to thenext high term, you know, and
not have to stretch it out, justto be able to be like it's
(13:09):
alright, mate, we can go and getyou another 20 quid pair of
shoes like no problem, whereasbefore that would have been a
nightmare for me.
Yeah, you know.
So that's just being comfortableis lovely actually and I see it
as a quite a luxury where weare, and we are, like I say,
nowhere near made it at all.
You know we're really not, butit's so much more than what we
(13:31):
had, yeah, and and you enjoydoing it and I love doing it,
apart from Mondays.
Mondays are terrible, it'salways a problem day, but, yeah,
love doing what I do and it's,and I love doing it.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Apart from Mondays.
Mondays are terrible.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
It's always a problem day, but yeah, I love doing
what I do and it's what I'vewanted to do for years.
And you know, I even had littledreams of like moving to
Cornwall and opening my ownlittle bathroom shop there and
it just ended up happening thisway and I wouldn't change it and
I want more, I want another one, I probably.
I want to have three.
I mean like I said, I'm 32.
(13:59):
Our franchise contracts last 10years, so I could have another
two I just got.
This is my baby that I've got.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Get the first one right, get this one.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Turning perfectly.
Once that happens, I want more.
Yeah, because I love ripplesand I love what I do and I love,
I love it.
I really, really do and I hopethat any you know younger people
early 20s are just having thatseed of I'd love to do that for
themselves.
Do it as soon as you get thatlittle thing in your head.
(14:35):
I'd love to do that.
Go and do it.
Yeah, just go and do it.
Make it your life mission to goand get it done, because if
you're doing it with passion,you're gonna love it forever and
it will work and nine times outof ten, and I spoke to someone
about this other day who quittheir job to go on their own.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
I said, okay, hold on .
You're worried about losingyour safety blanket?
You've got a bit of moneybehind you.
You can last for six months.
If it doesn't work, how hardwould it be for you to go and
get your old job back?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yeah, I could walk into any bathroom design job.
I genuinely could and I'd get a.
You could walk into any florist.
I'd hate it, You'd hate it.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
But your backup plan, but you don't need to now
because you've done it on yourown.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah, I think that you know it's not.
It's a risk, but it's not atthe same time if you love it,
and there's always a way out.
If it did fall on its ass, yeahthere's a way back out yeah, I
think just doing that withchildren is extra scary yeah, it
(15:34):
is, oh it is you've got to havea.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Don't be stupid, don't go to your boss now I
don't know yet, but danny, dannysaid go and do it now.
What about you?
Kelly, apart from wearing acondom, don't do it with kids
what would I have told me what?
Do you wish someone had toldyou?
Speaker 1 (15:57):
oh god, I really don't know that accountancy is
really bloody hard, yeah, yeahoh gosh.
Honestly, I don't know whatwould what would I wish someone
had have told me I had it.
I'm so lucky I had someonetelling me what I needed to be
told and that was just that Icould do it and not to worry and
(16:18):
just go and smash it.
I actually had that.
Oh, that was a moment.
Yeah, that was a moment.
I had it.
I had.
I had a lot of support.
I had a lot of people goingyou're really good at this.
I did not realize how much Ithrive off of compliments.
My god, I need to be told everyday, every day, that what I'm
doing is good.
I, if I didn't have a shop andI didn't have people walking in
(16:39):
constantly saying your shop'slovely, oh, this is so nice, oh,
wow, did you make that?
I don't think I would be okay.
I need compliments all the time, all the time, reassurance that
what I'm doing is really good,even though I know that I'm
quite good at flowers.
I need people to tell me it allthe time.
Yeah, and I had that when Istarted.
I had people saying you'rereally good at what you do.
You can make a living out ofthis.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I mean your whole husband, your whole, my whole
husband, all of him literallyjust went yeah, smash this
support.
I'm gonna tell you, mind that Iwish someone had told me what
was involved in running abusiness and it wasn't just
doing what you love.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
You have to do all the shit stuff too, and you
can't delegate it at first.
You have to do it all.
You have to do the bookkeepingand finding the receipts at the
bottom of your handbag at theend of the month.
You have to do all the customeremails and the customer service
and the marketing and thewebsite and the banking and, for
me, the delivery driving, andyou have to do it all.
(17:33):
You cannot afford to delegatethat out to anybody else and I
wasn't prepared for that.
I don't know what like magicaccountant.
I thought I was going to pullout of my ass in the first year
but um, turns out there's a lotof.
There's only so much anaccountant can do for you.
They actually need you to keepstuff organized, yeah.
(17:53):
I actually still don't do thatlittle.
Shout out to my Lawrence, whodoes all my like keeping my
receipts organized and mybanking organized.
I literally couldn't survivewithout him.
I don't know what I would do ifI didn't have him.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Surround yourself with people that support you.
Yeah, oh, yeah, that'sdefinitely a good takeaway.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Yeah, it is.
And if they don't support you,then just don't ask them, don't
let it put you off, just findnew people.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
I think I had a lot of people actually when they
realised how, because I wouldhave been 29 when I signed my
signed my franchisee contractand obviously three children,
young kids, and actually yousaying that, thinking back, I
had a lot of people going.
I don't know how you're gonnado this oh, I get that every day
.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Still now, how do you do it?
How are you gonna?
Speaker 2 (18:39):
how are you gonna run a whole business?
Who's gonna take the kids toschool and I'm like well, not
fucking me.
My husband's gonna do it.
We're all the only.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
I get it all the time I feel like lots of people put
me on a bit of a pedestalsometimes and they go yeah, how
do you do it?
Speaker 3 (18:51):
and I think oh, I feel like just show up every day
because I just do also.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Um, I don't know if anyone knows this, but I have a
full-time living nanny andhousekeeper called paul, and he
does quite a lot too, so likethere's a thing for men is that
they don't get enough credit forthe slack they pick up when
they're married to a careerwoman yeah to a woman in
business.
They pick up a lot of the slackand paul goes to birthday
(19:19):
parties sometimes and the womenthere go oh isn't it good that
you bought them?
Speaker 2 (19:23):
and he's like why, I'm a dad, I'm doing what I do
like why?
Speaker 1 (19:27):
why is?
Speaker 2 (19:27):
it good that I bought them.
I feel like sean has also hadit before um where they've been
like, oh, you're saddled withthe kids again.
Sean's like they are my kidsthey're my children.
I love them.
Like he's great, I get to spendall this time yeah and he does,
he loves it yeah so yeah, menactually, yeah, I think you're
right, some men actually getreally um like the raw and down
(19:50):
when actually they're doing justa greater job.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Yeah, any other mum would be no one really says to
paul oh how do you do it whenthey're considering like kids?
And what no one says to him, oh, how do you do it with four?
Kids at a job but people say itto me all the time and you do
feel like a bit of a fraudbecause I think, well, it's not
just me yeah, but, and you showup every day and you make it
work in the summer holidays.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
You make it work right kids.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Guess what we're doing today.
We're going to chop roast we'redoing this.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
My kids have all been brought up in the back of the
shop.
They've all spent theirchildhoods, but I think it's
important I think it's reallyimportant for kids, especially
in today.
Like I fear for the kidsgrowing up today, like our kids,
I fear for them because it's sohard yeah, it's so hard to get
ahead in life it's so hard, butno one puts it out there like
they think they can become aninstagram influencer yeah, and
(20:41):
be a millionaire pinningthemselves on.
That's what's going to happenunlikely that they're going to
be.
That one that makes money outof being on Instagram, yeah, and
, but it's so hard.
When I have my son turn to meand he's like I want to be a
famous gamer, like there'speople playing games now earning
millions of pounds, like that.
That is true they are, butthey're the ones you're seeing.
You're not seeing these hundredsof millions of people that
(21:04):
don't make it and have got nomoney, and it'd be great if you
got there and I want you to beambitious and I want you to work
hard.
But don't bring your whole life, but yeah, please don't pin
your whole life on it have it asa passion.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Yeah, have it as a passion.
If it works, it's good.
If it works, it works my boywants to be a footballer.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Yeah, I'm like that's great mate, let's do football.
You're really good at it and heis really good and if you get
scouted, then right fantastic,it'd be great, but don't assume
that's what's gonna happen foryou, because life is a funny way
of handing out lots ofdifferent things that can happen
and you can't pin everything.
You're going to be a footballer, you've got to think.
(21:40):
I keep telling him he should bea bathroom fitter, because the
industry is running out of youngpeople to do that well no one
wants to do it.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
They don't want to do it because they're hooked on
instagram and not getting theirhands done.
Oh yeah, I want a ferrari as mycompany car my first day and
stuff, and it's hard.
So I think it's important forthe kids.
My kids love coming in to workwith me.
They want to come to work withme.
Sometimes they're bored after20 minutes, yeah, but I think
it's important to show them thatyou've got to work hard in
(22:09):
order to have right kids.
My daughter ella goes to medaddy, have you taken some more
money from work again?
How did you afford?
You told me, you had no money.
You've taken money do you knowwhat I mean and it's just yeah,
you do the things you do foryourself, for your kids, but I
think it's really important thatthey see both parents working.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Yeah, yeah, I think you're right.
I was in Sainsbury's yesterday.
We've got to smash these genderroles.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Yeah, yeah, we've just got to, yeah for sure.
I was in and there was a kidplaying up it must have been
seven or eight years old playingup and they'd opened.
The mum was going don't openthe pasta, don't open the pasta.
And the kids opened the pastaand it's all over the floor in
the middle of the same room.
Well, that wasn't very goodthinking, was it?
(22:58):
That wasn't very good thinkingand I'm like nah.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
You're never, ever, never, ever ever gonna you, you
stupid twat right, get on yourhands and knees you're gonna be
picking
Speaker 3 (23:13):
everything I'm gonna cook your dinner with it and I
just think that there's too muchof this and the kids need to
know that it is hard out there.
We've got to teach them thatit's tough, especially with
social media.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
I feel sorry for the kids that are being brought up.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Gentle parenting, because when their boss shouts
at them, one day it's going totear them apart.
Someone bullies them at school.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Yeah, someone on the road, road rage.
It's just going to tear themapart.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Oh my God, yeah, yeah , he said naughty words, it's
naughty words, but yeah, no,that's something it's going to
be difficult for them.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
I really do, but I'm really like well about having
three boys and you probably feelthe same.
I'm really passionate aboutmaking sure that then they don't
turn into this sort of Andrew.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Tate yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
I'm really passionate about making sure that actually
they know that women can work,yeah, and that you, sean praises
the ground I walk on to behonest I think they are learning
from yeah, that's great reallynice it sounds like they are
from paul, yeah so I thinkthat's really important, by that
us being in business and beingso obsessed with our own
(24:21):
business that the kids areseeing how actually women can
smash it just as much as men can.
Yeah, that's really important.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Yeah, I think so.
But I also think it's importantto tell your girls that your
boys, they shouldn't be wearingdresses.
But that's just my take.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
That's a whole other podcast.
That's a whole other podcast,isn't it?
Speaker 3 (24:42):
But no, thank you very much, girls Pleasure.
Thanks for having us.
I hope you enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
It's always good to get a woman's perspective on
things right.
It's always good to get awoman's perspective on things.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
So if you listened, if you watched, thank you very
much.
That's been Kelly from BellaJune Flowers and Danielle from
Ripple's Bathrooms in Linfield.
Thank you, bye.
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