July 10, 2025 • 38 mins
This week on The Vinyl Curriculum, Jim introduces Logan to the sound that stormed America in the '80s—the Second British Invasion. Fueled by synths, stylish hair, and the rise of MTV, British bands took over U.S. charts with a sound that was sleek, strange, and unforgettable. From New Wave to New Romantic, we explore what made this era so explosive—and whether these hits still hold up today.
Featuring tracks from The Cure, Depeche Mode, The Smiths, and more.
Logan reacts, grades, and maybe even dances.
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Every record tells a story. Independent labels.
I think a lot of interesting songs came out of that.
And every generation has a soundtrack.
The only hip you have in your body is made of titanium.
This is the final curriculum with Logan.
Apparently I don't know very much about anything.
Somebody calls her Tay Tay. Hey, it's Logan.
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Just a quick heads up before we get into it.
This episode was originally recorded live on WLRA radio
where we are able to play all the songs that we talked about.
Unfortunately, due to copyright restrictions, we can't include
the music here on the podcast. So anytime you hear this sound,
that means we're skipping over asong that we originally played
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on air. But don't worry, Jim's put
together a playlist with all thetracks from the episode so you
can still follow along. Just check the link in the shown
ups. All right, now on to the
episode. Welcome back to the Vinyl
Curriculum right here on 88.1 WLRA.
Logan and Jim here live in the studio.
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Jim, how we doing today? Logan, I'm great.
How are you doing? Oh, I'm doing fantastic.
Even better that we're back for episode #3 of the Vinyl
Curriculum this week. What is the theme?
This week is a second British invasion.
The second British. Have you ever heard of that?
I've heard of the first British Invasion.
I didn't know there was two there.
Actually, there's probably 3 because one of them was back in
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the 17. 1776 or that was the theAmerican kicking out the.
British, that's true. Right.
I don't know. I'm not very good at history,
but what is the Second British Invasion?
What does that consist of? So this it's early 80s and you
know, The funny thing is this isthe time I was going to college,
so I didn't really realize this was going on.
I was just experiencing it. But MTV started in like 1981 and
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all of these, they needed content for their videos and
Americans weren't really used todoing videos, but Europe had
been done doing it for like 5 or6 years on some of their shows.
So MTV was just grabbing the videos that they had.
So there's a lot of these British groups and so it was.
On top of the pop, right, you said?
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Yeah. Top of the pop.
Well, remember we talked last last time about how Meatloaf had
done and now a video. And that was one of the first
ones to do it in the late 70s. But it it just wasn't a big
thing here yet. And so for a couple of years
they were playing a lot of theseBritish acts.
People would hear, see it on MTV, call their radio station,
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say, hey, can you play this songby Depeche Mode?
And so they became big hits. So a lot of that kind of stuff.
It just so happened to coincide with me going to college the
first time I was able to hear a lot of new music.
I'm from Mississippi, so there'sa lot of popping country on the
radio that back there. So bluegrass.
I feel like right? Is that I do not live in the
hills. I live in Mississippi.
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So anyway, I love this music. One of my favorite genres.
Probably my favorite genre is the these early 80s.
So anyway, it's going to be good.
You're going to like, is that a genre?
I thought genre is like rock'n'roll, not like British
invade. What does that even mean?
This. This pop synth pop.
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Pop something. Yeah.
I mean, it's just. Soda pop.
Alright, you're already. Upsetting me, Logan.
Well, hopefully you won't be tooupset because we've got
something new this week for the people that are listening.
Why don't we part of the show? Call or text us 815-733-8517.
Tell us your favorite album, your hottest take, or just share
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one of those memories that you have about the music.
How? Has Logan never heard smoking by
Boston come? On man, you never know, you
might just hear yourself in the next episode.
It's like hanging out with two friends who argue about records
while I fold laundry. Again.
That number is 815-733-8517. Love what y'all are doing.
Don't stop. Let's hear what you have to say.
That's right. You can call, call us or text us
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now, 815-733-8517. I'll be monitoring the text all
so long. Or you can call us and you might
hear us your message on the shownext week.
Again, 815-733-8517. Let me know if you agree with my
grades or disagree, or give yourthoughts on Jim's playlist of
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the week. Logan was that your mother was.
Maybe, maybe, maybe that was just me.
I have a very good female voice.Yeah.
All right. So you ready to get started?
Yeah, but to reveal though, before before we get started too
fast, this is the vinyl curriculum.
Here's how this works. Jim has a playlist that he
brings to my attention every week because he thinks for some
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reason he needs to educate me asI'm not well educated enough,
According to him, about music history and different types of
music. We're trying to expand my taste
of music, and after each song we'll talk about it a little
bit. Jim will give me a little bit of
the history, then I'll assign ita grade and whether I like it,
whether it holds up to my modernstandards for a modern playlist.
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As we've discussed many times onthe show already, I'm a big
Taylor Swift fan, so I'm comparing everything to my girl
Tay Tay. This week though, the second
British Invasion. What is the first song?
Group called modern English, thesong as I melt with you.
This is classic college for me. It came out right before I
started college, but I remember it at the dance clubs and we
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could go the the bars back then at 18, by the way.
And then also we would go to thethe frat houses that have bands
and this was always one of the the songs that they would play.
Modern English I melt with you. Modern English, as in this is an
18th century British English. Modern English as in the name of
the band hit play Logan All. Right, this is the vinyl
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curriculum. I feel like this is a very
appropriate song for lately Jim considering it's been so hot out
than melting outside. Oh, that was a nice little segue
right there. I was thinking about that
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earlier when when I saw what theplaylist was going to be today,
that's I was like, you know what, this is an appropriate
song. I feel like a popsicle lately
outside it's been so hot, but that's a great song.
I was familiar with that one. Actually one of the few on the
show that I've actually heard before.
Good. I met with you by modern English
here on the vinyl curriculum. We're going to start off again.
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Solid start, a very good for modern English on the as the
first song of the episode today.I forgot to mention earlier,
we're also streaming now on Apple Podcast.
So we're on Spotify and Apple Podcast.
If you're interested, you could search the vinyl curriculum.
You'll see a cartoon picture of me and Jim having a grand old
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time. But we're here all hour long.
Listen to some great music from the British invasion.
That was a very solid start, as we had last week.
Yeah, I don't know. Just so you know, Logan, if we
ever go to karaoke, that's goingto be my song.
Oh gosh. Either that or Miley Cyrus Is
Wrecking Ball one of the two, because that one is in my range
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and I love Wrecking Ball. Talk about, talk about two
vastly different songs right there.
I'm just I'm trying to visualizeyou singing Wrecking Ball.
We need to go do it. Oh gosh.
I'm not a good grade. I'm I'm glad you started off
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with an A. No, that's you're getting
better, I think at ordering the song because the the first week
was it was a little rough with the with the first time, but
that was a good one. So.
I'm always going to try to startoff upbeat and I will always
want to end up. Beat OK, that's good, that's
good. That's good.
You know what I like and that's what I like.
I was, I was over here dancing this.
One now this one nothing. You Can Dance to this next one.
This next one is Depeche Mode. Have you heard of them?
(08:06):
I've, well, I actually have. I, I thought it was a person at
1st and I thought it's not, it'sDepeche, not Depeche, no
Depeche, Depeche. OK, Depeche Mode.
Yeah, this is from 94 people arepeople, but I would I first
heard of Depeche Mode when I I had AK Tel cassette.
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K Tel was like this you see on TV, they say by the K Tel album
or K Tel and it was called the Beat.
And I wanted is that a brand K? Yeah, it was a like a brand I
see. But it was like ATV kind of like
as seen on TV type stuff. And so anyway, I had this
cassette and I didn't get it. I don't think in 82.
I think I got it because I remember in college I had it in
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which was 83, but it had all these new wave people.
So one of these days I want to do a recording like a show of
just those because it had all kinds of people in it and it was
my first exposure. But this was the a really big
hit for the one coming up for Depeche Mode.
It's called people are people. What?
Do you mean by new wave? Was that like?
Kind of this this new wave of music that was coming through
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like what we're listening. To like mid 90s then you're
talking about where? This is early 80s.
Well, you just said this song came out in 94.
Oh. 84 sorry OK 82 was when I had a cassette came out.
I this is 84 I'm you can change You can take that out podcast.
No, we're leaving it in. No, this has got a you talking
about a beat. You need to turn this one up
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because it's got that beat. OK, this is Depeche Mode, right?
People? Are people here on the vinyl
curriculum? Then we'll have another
impartial grade coming up right after this.
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This is another very good song. This is this sounds to me
quintessential 80s right here. A lot of synth that is great.
That is another great song. We got to go with another AI.
Think starting off Hot 2A's in arow.
People are people by Depeche Mode on the vinyl curriculum.
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Yeah, that was a big hit for them.
I think it, you know, they're still around too.
I think it made #13 I was looking at the chart.
So number #13 this came out in what year?
84 I kind of all of these that I'm playing are kind of in
chronological order. Oh, OK.
This is like this, this is feelslike a very like industrial kind
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of vibe. I don't know.
It's like people working in likea factory kind of thing.
That's what like, I don't know if that makes sense.
That's what Depeche Mode is kindof like that they're it's got a
different sound. Like I said, they're still
around. I think they still tour, yeah.
Like I want to say they were just in the area recently, in
Tinley maybe? I wouldn't doubt it.
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It might have been on the 4th ofJuly because I know some people
didn't come to my party because they were going to a concert.
It might have been Depeche Mode.You know who else didn't go to
your party? Me because I wasn't invited.
Well, that was intentional. So OK, this is Divine
Curriculum. We got more songs coming up
here. The next one by the Icicle works
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right? Did I say that correctly?
Yep. In UK it's the Icicle works, but
here it's icicle works and the name of the song in America is
Whisper to a screen. Parentheses.
Birds fly in parentheses, but inEurope it was birds fly
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parentheses. Whisper to a scream in
parentheses. I've never heard of that.
I don't heard of. Whatever reason the the people
who are going to do it, release it in America, made them make
those changes. Another upbeat.
Love it. It wasn't a huge, it was like
#37 and then I've listened to the rest of their album.
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I don't really care for it to behonest, but this song, love it.
Why I've never who released the song?
Was it, what do you know the label that yeah.
They, they had a, they released it in Europe and into an
American company, had to take ithere.
And whoever did it said, OK, we'll do it.
But here's some changes you haveto make.
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And also the British version hasof someone talking at the
beginning and they made them take that out, although you can
kind of hear it on this one, butit must have been a longer
version. Yeah, I don't know.
That's another solid start, though I think I'm going to have
to add both those songs to my playlist to my favorite.
I was singing by the end of People, Our People.
Yeah, yeah, it wasn't very good either, but you know this one.
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You might like this one too. Come on, you might like this one
too. This is really upbeat.
OK, this is Whisper to a Scream on the vinyl curriculum.
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What are they saying? We are, and we are what?
We are but your children. We are but your children.
Finding our way round and decision we are.
We are rather helpless. Something something a whisper to
a scream. Don't.
We're not judging lyrics here, we're judging the song.
Well, the lyrics are part of it.I would think the lyrics are
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more part of me judging the songthan the lore of the.
Song. I was going to say lower is more
important. I disagree heartily, heartily.
OK, that was still pretty good. I I don't think it was up to the
tier of songs that we had with the 1st 2:00, but we'll go we'll
go B plus with that one. That's low.
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That's low, Logan. It's not that low.
It's not as low as some of the ones that we've had in the past.
We had a couple CS last week if you haven't heard you.
Cannot bring up White Zombie. If you haven't heard last week's
episode or the first episode, you can stream that now on
Spotify and or Apple Music. That's right, and this episode
will drop on Thursday. It drops every Thursday morning
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for your drive to work, so that'll be good.
We've got some more music for you right now though.
When love breaks down, right? That's where we're at.
Yep. What?
What's going on with Who is thisby?
This is by. It's called Free Fab Free Prefab
Sprout. So you can't even say it I.
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Don't know anything about them other than this one song.
The guy this guy named Patty is was the the main person in the
group and he said he's just made-up this.
When he was a kid he made-up this saying Prefab Sprout.
Interesting, but love. This song, I thought it was
because last week I said that I was a little sprout because I
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was growing. Well, there is that tie in, but
no, I as soon as you said that Itry to forget it.
But this one, you know, is it hit 42 on the charts here in
America and they they broke up not long after this so.
Well, that's not even the you know, Post Malone.
You know who Post Malone is? He came up with his rapper name
by putting it into a random rap name generator online.
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That's how he came up with Post Malone.
Interesting. And that's not even my favorite
kind of Malone. I prefer water.
But anyway, water Malone. What is that?
It's a fruit watermelon. Oh God, there's also.
If you're going to say a joke, it's going to be at least funny
enough that we even realized that that was a joke.
I realized I'm laughing. I laughed it.
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I laughed in my own head. OK, that's OK, but Prefab Sprout
Thomas Dolby was also listed on the as an.
Artist he produced. It he produced it OK, and this
is the again part of the second British invasion and so he must
be then the American producer maybe I don't know, this is just
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what it. No, Tom Thomas Dobie is not
American. How?
Oh. He's British, but it was 84 is
when this came out. 84 OK, so we're we're cruising along
through the 80s here on the vinyl curriculum and we've got
another song for you when love breaks down.
Then we'll be coming in with another impartial grade coming
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up right after this. I fear we're starting to go in
the wrong direction here, Jim, just.
OK, we're going to. Deep breath, Deep breath.
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OK, I don't know that that firstpart of the song was pretty
slow. OK?
It was it was a different vibe. Yeah, if we're talking about
dance music. We're not talking about who said
anything about dance. Music.
You said something about dance. Music.
Some of these are dance music, but you, we cannot.
Every song I play cannot be a dead gum dance song.
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Logan, you got to expand your horizon.
This is a chill song. You, you're sitting there
chilling, talking to your friends.
This is playing. You're tapping your feet.
You don't have to be up doing whatever you do.
I dance and I'm a dancing queen or a dancing machine, not you.
Said it. Wait, wait.
OK, yeah, I don't this is this is a little too chill for me.
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You all right, note to self, work on Logan liking things that
are not dance songs because there's a lot of great music
that are not fast. Yeah, I agree, but this isn't
one of those songs. OK, but your your excuse is
always. I can't dance to it.
So. All right, what are you?
What are you giving this one, Logan?
Oh gosh, C plus Oh my God, I know, I know, I know.
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I it's it's. If we have any list, someone
please text and tell him that heneeds to stop this.
Oh gosh, yeah. Madness.
Let me know. 815-733-8517. Text us right now.
Tell me how much you agree with me.
And tell Jim we need to up the tempo a little bit here, buddy.
Come on now. Now this one, the next one's
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upbeat, and I think you're goingto know this 10.
This one was released in 85. Is it that old?
I had the album it also it was the album was called Hounds of
Love. That was also a song on this
when it's Kate Bush. And then back in 22 it was on a
show called Stranger Things. They re it kind of came back out
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and it made #3 on the charts. So originally it was only 30.
Oh, so 20 years later almost, and it went to number three.
Well. It had a second resurgence, much
like Bohemian Rhapsody. That's true with Wayne's World.
When Wayne's World came out it, it bounced back to #1 on the
charts for some unknown amount of time.
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But yeah, this one's called Running Up That Hill by Kate
Bush. If you haven't heard this song,
you've been living under a rock for the past five years because
I during 2022, it must have been.
I felt like it was on a repeat on every single radio station
that I turned on. And so it it's very well known
song. But that's a great show.
Have you watched? Are you up to date on Stranger
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Things? I'm waiting for that next season
to come out. Yep.
Think about Kate Bush. She's very unique, very
generally tour, but she go listen to this album, listen
some of her other albums. She did a a song with Peter
Gabriel and one of her albums. It was amazing, yeah.
Is she still performing? She doesn't.
Perform. No, never.
She's. Kind of not her thing, but
she's. Yeah, interesting.
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Yeah, but anyway, listen to this.
Say what? You think she doesn't?
Yeah, I guess she kind of doesn't really strike me as a
performing artist. When?
Well, when you hear the song, you'll see This is Running Up
That Hill by Kate Bush on the Vinyl curriculum.
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All right, Logan, now shivering with anticipation, waiting,
wondering what you're going to say about this, because this was
not upbeat. It was kind of chill, but I
think you liked it. So I'm just, I'm just waiting to
see what you say about this one.Well, I think the show probably
had a lot to do with it. Right.
OK so from now on I have to put get songs that were on some kind
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of a show for you to like it if it's not a dance.
Song well, but I guess I'm also violating my own rule because I
said Lord doesn't make a difference and him if being on
the show is part is so you didn't even catch that.
You didn't even catch that. Yeah, you're crumbling.
You're crumbling. I don't, yeah.
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I don't know. Growing.
You're growing. You're a child.
You're growing. Yeah, as we established last
week, little Sprout growing a little leaf.
Over here, yeah. Fluttering in the wind, nice
sunny day outside, just had my water growing.
OK, what were you, what did you give this?
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You know you don't want to say lower than what you really
think. No, no, no, I'm not sure.
I don't do that. I give honest, impartial grades.
Remember that's that's my thing.I gave impartial grades.
We need like a drum roll. I need probably.
I think we're gonna go, we're gonna go B plus, but it's a low
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B plus. All right, that's.
It's a, it's a low. We're gonna go like eighty,
8786% on the grading scale, Ryan.
I don't, I don't know if I agreewith that but that's fine.
At least you didn't say AC plus because it is chill, but that's
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there are so many good songs outthere that are slow or laid back
That and there's time. You know, you're riding in the
car. Sometimes you want to just have
a a nice smooth, you know, next week, a little shout out, next
week is going to be Yacht Rock. Not wrong a lot of.
Chill, lot of chill stuff. So you're going to have to get
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ready for that. Yes, we must.
How long have you been? How long have you been
practiced? At all a lot.
That's why I want to use it as much as possible.
Yacht Rock. OK, next week on the vinyl
curriculum. I like the guy from the Munsters
or something, I don't know. Oh yes, I don't know.
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I'm not very. Good at it, no?
That was Running Up That Hill byKate Bush here on the vinyl
curriculum. That was good, though I I do
have to admit that is one of thebetter slower songs.
Again, the show probably had a lot to do with that for me, but
I, I see what you mean though, with the, with the lower, quote
UN quote, because like a lot of this lower business was
happening when you were aware ofit, right?
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And this was like you talk aboutthe history of these songs you
talk about in the 80s, well before I was even born, but like
this happened while I was alive.So I feel like I feel much more
connected to this song and this lore than some of the other lore
that you've been talking about. Right, but there's songs that
that I liked that were before I was born.
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But if I like the song and then I oh, that was an interesting
story or whatever. So well, that's what we're going
to keep working. We're going to keep working on
you with that. All right.
Here's another upbeat 1. I think you're going to know
this. This is the cure from 1987.
This is about when I was graduating college.
Just like heaven. Just like Heaven by the Cure.
Yeah, Interesting name is that. That's a band.
(23:52):
Now you know who the Cure are. Yes, they're a band.
They just actually had a new album out last year, toured,
made. It's a great album, had great
success on tour. I did not see them and I regret
it. OK, this is called Just Like
Heaven by the Cure here on the vinyl curriculum.
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That one's a little bit more upbeat, like you said.
I don't know. This is more of like a jazz club
where snapping fingers, we're just kind of, we're kind of
moving a little bit to the music, like in a, you know.
I'm trying to picture The Cure in a jazz club.
I don't see that. Although one of these days I
want to do an episode on cover songs and there's a bluegrass
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cover song of this by the Infamous String Dusters.
The Who now? They're called the Infamous
String Dusters, but they're bluegrass and instrumental is
this song, and it's amazing. Stop it the string the.
Thing about the Cure, it seems like half of their songs are
like upbeat and the other half are like really really Moody and
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sad and depressed. Yeah, that the Moody.
That's not, that's not Logan. That's not what I like.
Well, I'm not playing that song for you.
I played Just Like Heaven. So what do you think?
We're going to go solid B, OK. Yeah, it was solid B It was it
was better. I could see myself not flipping
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the station immediately when I hear that song on.
So I don't like the he's giving me the stare down right now.
This is where you're starting toget rude and remember you did
that once before. And I don't like that this is a
big hit for him. It's kind of their their first
mainstream hit because it's kindof crossed.
Over what are some other songs that I might know by the Cure?
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Friday I'm in love is my favorite.
No, it's Friday. I'm in love.
Maybe I don't know sometimes with names.
Why? Can't I be you was on this one.
Why can't they've? Been around a long time.
Yeah. They had a Disintegration album
when I was like early 90s when Iworked at the bowling alley and
I would play that a lot. At the very million.
(26:03):
Yeah, it was rock and bowl and we would play.
Rock and Bowl, That's a great name for the bowling alley that.
Plays rock, turn the lights out and we had the yeah, it was fun.
Not really. It wasn't fun to work there, but
it was fun to to bowl I. Mean it could be fun to work
there. It's called the Rock and Bowl.
I can't imagine it not. No, it's called Rebel Lanes, but
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the place was. But it rock and bowl is what we
did. And that's where I met my wife.
That's where I met Karen. At the Was it at during the Rock
and Bowl? No, she was in a league, a
women's league, and I was working.
Would you play an air guitar when you got a strike the Rock
and bowl? No.
OK. All right, the the next one.
Now this is this is my favorite band ever, so you better be
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careful what you say about this one.
This is slow. Though OK, but this is.
One of the most romantic songs you're ever going to hear,
Logan. So listen to these lyrics when
he gets to the chorus. And I want you to say this to
your fiance the next time you see her, because you're going to
win her. Over Oh, is this a song to play
at the wedding? Then this would be.
You know what, this would be a good dance song for you and her
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to play to do it. This.
I love that. Idea a slow dance.
Yeah, it's The Smiths. There is a light that never goes
out. OK love this group The Smiths.
There is a light that never goesout on the vinyl curriculum.
Take Me Out. I don't know what I get more
(27:31):
enjoyment out of, listening to the music or just watching your
face while the song is playing. That is so romantic, I love that
song. OK, no, I'm talking about, I
mean you very clearly this is your jam.
It is very clearly this is your jam.
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This, but so you're talking about slow dancing?
I would not go slow dancing. But that's what you just that
was a joke. It was a joke because I wanted.
I mean, he's talking about if a double Decker bus crashes into
us, to die by your side is such a heavenly way to die.
If a 10 ton truck kills the bothof us to die by your side, well,
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the pleasure, the privilege is mine.
That's this is Morrissey. He's the lead singer and that's
as about as romantic as he can get.
He's trying to be positive, but that's how it comes out because
he's kind of a he's kind of a tortured soul.
So I'm in concert last year. It is absolutely amazing.
Morrissey OK, that's The Smiths.There is a light that what is it
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called? There never goes, that never
goes out. We're going to go with ABA.
Straight B higher than I thought.
Yeah, no, it's, I mean, it's nota slow dance song.
Like, you know, that's what I feared that it might be.
So the fact that it was not was a pleasant surprise.
For me, and I don't, that wasn'teven a single, that was just on
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the album. The Queen is dead.
What's the name of the album? Interesting.
Yeah, interesting. That had nothing to do with the
band Queen. No, I think it was more about
the British monarchy. He was, yeah.
He's opinionated, to say the least.
The Brit OH. They were from Britain and they
had a queen back then, right? Yeah, but you just said he.
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Morrissey, OH. So he didn't like the Queen?
I don't know what you're saying.He.
Doesn't like the whole monarchy thing.
Oh. All right.
All right, we got before we finish, there's there's two
songs I want to play, but there's two songs that I did not
play because we're running out of time, but they're on the
playlist. Life in the Northern Town by the
Dream Academy is another one of my all time favorites and it's
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one of those when I hear that song, I used to think that's
what it was like to live up north because I was from the
South. So I thought that's what y'all
were doing when you saw when I was see the video for that.
Life in a Northern What was in the video?
Them just snowing and all this kind of stuff.
Then the other one was Secret byOMD which is Orchestral
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Maneuvers in the dark and that was the next year they came out
on with If You Leave from the Pretty and peak soundtrack,
which is a huge hit. But I love this album too.
So those are two great songs. OK.
The next song, though, and we'rejust going to play part of it,
is Amanda by Sade O'Connor. This came out when I was a
senior. I actually used her photo in an
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art project, not knowing who shewas.
And then I listened to her laterbecause I was using a Rolling
Stone magazine. There's a big article about her
and she was bald and very striking.
And you probably know that Prince saw nothing compares to
you that she he wrote and she sang.
Probably. Yeah.
She's bald headed. You'd know her anyway.
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She died not too long ago. She had the issues.
But love this song Like upbeat you might like.
It Mandika, it was. She read Arthur Haley's Roots
book and it was It's a tribe in Africa and she is referencing
them. Oh, interesting.
Yeah. Mandika by Sinead O'Connor.
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Sinead Sinead O'Connor. OK, interesting.
But then we're almost at we're here till 1:00 on Live on the
Radio and then again, we'll be posting this on Apple Podcast
and Spotify. Make sure you follow the vinyl
curriculum on both of those. This is Sinead, Sinead O'Connor.
Sorry, I still can't even get itright.
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Sinead O'Connor on the vinyl curriculum.
Did I say right that time? Sinead, Sinead O'Connor.
Interesting. Irish.
Oh, but she's not British. I thought this was the British
invasion. It's.
The the island, the islands. The island of Britain the.
Islands. You know what, Ireland, although
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I didn't put you 2 in there, butwe're going to act like she's
from, I'm sure she lived in England for a while.
What does it? What you can't?
That doesn't even make any sense.
OK, Sinead O'Connor Mandinka. Mandika.
Mandika. See, I'm really struggling with
this name here. It's not bad, yeah.
I like it, it's fun. B Plus.
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OK, that's good. Actually, yeah, we're gonna go B
plus I think. Yeah, she this was her first
album that I I think this is herfirst album, The Lion, the Cobra
and the. The what?
I want to say wardrobe. But The Lion, The Witch and the
Wardrobe? That's a play.
Lion in cobra. The lion in the cobra, Yeah.
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I was in that play when I was inmiddle school.
OK, you're the brother. Dresser.
What? No.
Were you the Ottoman or whateverthey had to go climb into?
A kid No, no, that was not a part.
I had a speaking role and I. Fought.
I'm surprised. I fought in slow motion on the
stage. You don't care.
That's OK, I care. Anyway, the huge success for her
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and then she came out the next album.
I forgot what it's called Everything you do not want or
something. And they had that.
Nothing compares you that Princewrote.
And it was #1 forever in a day. And.
Amanda cast the name Sinead O'Connor, see?
But there's no H and that's what's throwing me off.
No, but she's got a an apostrophe.
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An apostrophe. Yeah, isn't there like a think
it's SIN and then apostrophe E not apostrophe.
What do you call that tilde an accent?
No, the tilde is a little. Squiggle thing.
You know about or the two dots? That's German.
OK, well, janae O'Connor Amanda.Last, there's one more Logan.
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Yeah, one more this. Is going to end on a bang and I
think this is going to push you through with a good final grade
for the whole episode. OK, we want to introduce.
This this is called the Promise by Win in Rome.
OK, not much about them. They've disbanded not long after
this one hit wonder went to #11 have always loved it.
OK, this is called The Promise by One in Rome.
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It's a great name for a band group.
I assume this is This is not a person.
It's the group. It's a group, right?
Yep. OK.
And are they from Rome this time?
No, they're Ireland. No, they're they're from
England. I'm sure it's not.
Who knows? Well, all right, well, we'll,
we'll give it a try, give it a listen, and then we'll have one
more final grade for you here onthe vinyl curriculum.
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This is a solid ending here, Jim.
The promise one in Rome here on the final curriculum.
I got to give it another A. No good.
I've got to give it another a. This is a fun one.
Yeah, I like this genre. We'll call it, even though it's
a British invasion. I wouldn't.
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We're going to say the British. Isles invasion, The British
Isles. Because then Ireland is
included, so the British Isles invasion.
OK. I'm not going to change the
artwork though. I think another reason I like
this music is so many of these artists are in my vocal range.
Does that matter? Like you sing if you're like in
the. Car I do.
And I Can't Sing to like Guns and Roses or, well, these guys
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that have the. I'm a big, I sing to Johnny
Cash. That's that's my vocal range.
I fell into the burning Ring of Fire.
See, I could do that. I could do Johnny Cash.
OK, Well, that was the promise by one in Rome.
Yeah, and now you've heard my Johnny Cash impression.
Yeah. And this let that be the last
time we do that. But no, I, I we should do a
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Johnny Cash episode. I'm I love Johnny Cash.
I think Johnny Cash is fine too.That would be we'll do country,
we'll do old school country. All right, I met his sister one
time. It is when we went to see his
grave and his sister was there. Oh, wow, that was weird.
That's my weird Johnny. Cash you do other like George
Jones, Tammy, what other from that?
And just it might have been the movie that got me into it, but
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yeah. There we go with the folklore.
Yeah, it does matter to you, doesn't it?
It does. It does.
So you're coming to figure out that you're not being honest
with yourself. Oh, I am.
I'm being honest. So we've got you want to review
the grades and then I'll give a genre grade for we.
Have an A, an A A/B plus, AC plus, AB plus, ABBB plus and an
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A. So yeah, you liked them all.
You didn't care for when love breaks down, which is a lie.
I think if you listen to that again, you would love it because
that's a great one. It just had it started to start
off slow and that's. That's a problem.
That's my, that is a problem forme.
I want to say we're, we got to go a minus.
I think as a whole we're going to, we're going to get up into
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the ace category here. It's a low a minus.
It's a, it's about a 90%, ninety, 1%, but it's still in
the, it's still an A. You know what?
It's bringing down the GPA, but it's still an A.
I'm going to give you a name. I'm going to give you an A Logan
because I feel like you're growing.
You're growing and there's hope.And I want to give you a little
bit of encouragement to continueto do that.
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And if I give you AB Plus, whichis what my instinct would be,
you might rebel and not be a good student anymore.
So I'm going to go with A because I'm proud of you.
OK. Well, I appreciate that and a
minus for the genre and a for me.
We're getting better, you're growing.
The sprout now maybe has 2 little leaves on here fluttering
in the wind. And you're going to process next
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week is yacht rock. So there's going to be all like
chill, slower music, and you're going to prepare yourself for
it. I'm going to yacht rock here on
the vinyl curriculum it. Doesn't sound anything like
that. Well, appreciate you bringing me
all these songs, expanding my breath of music a little bit.
This is a really fun. I really enjoy doing this.
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We are posting these episodes onSpotify and Apple Music.
If you haven't heard the other episodes of the Vinyl
Curriculum, you can look us up. Search the Vinyl Curriculum on
either Apple or Spotify. Thank you for listening and we
will catch you all on the next one.
Bye.
Every record tells a story. Independent labels.
I think a lot of interesting songs came out of that.
And every generation has a soundtrack.
The only hip you have in your body is made of titanium.
This is the final curriculum with Logan.
Apparently I don't know very much about anything.
Somebody calls her Tay Tay. Hey, it's Logan.
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Just a quick heads up before we get into it.
This episode was originally recorded live on WLRA radio
where we are able to play all the songs that we talked about.
Unfortunately, due to copyright restrictions, we can't include
the music here on the podcast. So anytime you hear this sound,
that means we're skipping over asong that we originally played
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on air. But don't worry, Jim's put
together a playlist with all thetracks from the episode so you
can still follow along. Just check the link in the shown
ups. All right, now on to the
episode. Welcome back to the Vinyl
Curriculum right here on 88.1 WLRA.
Logan and Jim here live in the studio.
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Jim, how we doing today? Logan, I'm great.
How are you doing? Oh, I'm doing fantastic.
Even better that we're back for episode #3 of the Vinyl
Curriculum this week. What is the theme?
This week is a second British invasion.
The second British. Have you ever heard of that?
I've heard of the first British Invasion.
I didn't know there was two there.
Actually, there's probably 3 because one of them was back in
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the 17. 1776 or that was the theAmerican kicking out the.
British, that's true. Right.
I don't know. I'm not very good at history,
but what is the Second British Invasion?
What does that consist of? So this it's early 80s and you
know, The funny thing is this isthe time I was going to college,
so I didn't really realize this was going on.
I was just experiencing it. But MTV started in like 1981 and
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all of these, they needed content for their videos and
Americans weren't really used todoing videos, but Europe had
been done doing it for like 5 or6 years on some of their shows.
So MTV was just grabbing the videos that they had.
So there's a lot of these British groups and so it was.
On top of the pop, right, you said?
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Yeah. Top of the pop.
Well, remember we talked last last time about how Meatloaf had
done and now a video. And that was one of the first
ones to do it in the late 70s. But it it just wasn't a big
thing here yet. And so for a couple of years
they were playing a lot of theseBritish acts.
People would hear, see it on MTV, call their radio station,
(02:36):
say, hey, can you play this songby Depeche Mode?
And so they became big hits. So a lot of that kind of stuff.
It just so happened to coincide with me going to college the
first time I was able to hear a lot of new music.
I'm from Mississippi, so there'sa lot of popping country on the
radio that back there. So bluegrass.
I feel like right? Is that I do not live in the
hills. I live in Mississippi.
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So anyway, I love this music. One of my favorite genres.
Probably my favorite genre is the these early 80s.
So anyway, it's going to be good.
You're going to like, is that a genre?
I thought genre is like rock'n'roll, not like British
invade. What does that even mean?
This. This pop synth pop.
(03:19):
Pop something. Yeah.
I mean, it's just. Soda pop.
Alright, you're already. Upsetting me, Logan.
Well, hopefully you won't be tooupset because we've got
something new this week for the people that are listening.
Why don't we part of the show? Call or text us 815-733-8517.
Tell us your favorite album, your hottest take, or just share
(03:40):
one of those memories that you have about the music.
How? Has Logan never heard smoking by
Boston come? On man, you never know, you
might just hear yourself in the next episode.
It's like hanging out with two friends who argue about records
while I fold laundry. Again.
That number is 815-733-8517. Love what y'all are doing.
Don't stop. Let's hear what you have to say.
That's right. You can call, call us or text us
(04:02):
now, 815-733-8517. I'll be monitoring the text all
so long. Or you can call us and you might
hear us your message on the shownext week.
Again, 815-733-8517. Let me know if you agree with my
grades or disagree, or give yourthoughts on Jim's playlist of
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the week. Logan was that your mother was.
Maybe, maybe, maybe that was just me.
I have a very good female voice.Yeah.
All right. So you ready to get started?
Yeah, but to reveal though, before before we get started too
fast, this is the vinyl curriculum.
Here's how this works. Jim has a playlist that he
brings to my attention every week because he thinks for some
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reason he needs to educate me asI'm not well educated enough,
According to him, about music history and different types of
music. We're trying to expand my taste
of music, and after each song we'll talk about it a little
bit. Jim will give me a little bit of
the history, then I'll assign ita grade and whether I like it,
whether it holds up to my modernstandards for a modern playlist.
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As we've discussed many times onthe show already, I'm a big
Taylor Swift fan, so I'm comparing everything to my girl
Tay Tay. This week though, the second
British Invasion. What is the first song?
Group called modern English, thesong as I melt with you.
This is classic college for me. It came out right before I
started college, but I remember it at the dance clubs and we
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could go the the bars back then at 18, by the way.
And then also we would go to thethe frat houses that have bands
and this was always one of the the songs that they would play.
Modern English I melt with you. Modern English, as in this is an
18th century British English. Modern English as in the name of
the band hit play Logan All. Right, this is the vinyl
(05:53):
curriculum. I feel like this is a very
appropriate song for lately Jim considering it's been so hot out
than melting outside. Oh, that was a nice little segue
right there. I was thinking about that
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earlier when when I saw what theplaylist was going to be today,
that's I was like, you know what, this is an appropriate
song. I feel like a popsicle lately
outside it's been so hot, but that's a great song.
I was familiar with that one. Actually one of the few on the
show that I've actually heard before.
Good. I met with you by modern English
here on the vinyl curriculum. We're going to start off again.
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Solid start, a very good for modern English on the as the
first song of the episode today.I forgot to mention earlier,
we're also streaming now on Apple Podcast.
So we're on Spotify and Apple Podcast.
If you're interested, you could search the vinyl curriculum.
You'll see a cartoon picture of me and Jim having a grand old
(06:57):
time. But we're here all hour long.
Listen to some great music from the British invasion.
That was a very solid start, as we had last week.
Yeah, I don't know. Just so you know, Logan, if we
ever go to karaoke, that's goingto be my song.
Oh gosh. Either that or Miley Cyrus Is
Wrecking Ball one of the two, because that one is in my range
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and I love Wrecking Ball. Talk about, talk about two
vastly different songs right there.
I'm just I'm trying to visualizeyou singing Wrecking Ball.
We need to go do it. Oh gosh.
I'm not a good grade. I'm I'm glad you started off
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with an A. No, that's you're getting
better, I think at ordering the song because the the first week
was it was a little rough with the with the first time, but
that was a good one. So.
I'm always going to try to startoff upbeat and I will always
want to end up. Beat OK, that's good, that's
good. That's good.
You know what I like and that's what I like.
I was, I was over here dancing this.
One now this one nothing. You Can Dance to this next one.
This next one is Depeche Mode. Have you heard of them?
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I've, well, I actually have. I, I thought it was a person at
1st and I thought it's not, it'sDepeche, not Depeche, no
Depeche, Depeche. OK, Depeche Mode.
Yeah, this is from 94 people arepeople, but I would I first
heard of Depeche Mode when I I had AK Tel cassette.
(08:30):
K Tel was like this you see on TV, they say by the K Tel album
or K Tel and it was called the Beat.
And I wanted is that a brand K? Yeah, it was a like a brand I
see. But it was like ATV kind of like
as seen on TV type stuff. And so anyway, I had this
cassette and I didn't get it. I don't think in 82.
I think I got it because I remember in college I had it in
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which was 83, but it had all these new wave people.
So one of these days I want to do a recording like a show of
just those because it had all kinds of people in it and it was
my first exposure. But this was the a really big
hit for the one coming up for Depeche Mode.
It's called people are people. What?
Do you mean by new wave? Was that like?
Kind of this this new wave of music that was coming through
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like what we're listening. To like mid 90s then you're
talking about where? This is early 80s.
Well, you just said this song came out in 94.
Oh. 84 sorry OK 82 was when I had a cassette came out.
I this is 84 I'm you can change You can take that out podcast.
No, we're leaving it in. No, this has got a you talking
about a beat. You need to turn this one up
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because it's got that beat. OK, this is Depeche Mode, right?
People? Are people here on the vinyl
curriculum? Then we'll have another
impartial grade coming up right after this.
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This is another very good song. This is this sounds to me
quintessential 80s right here. A lot of synth that is great.
That is another great song. We got to go with another AI.
Think starting off Hot 2A's in arow.
People are people by Depeche Mode on the vinyl curriculum.
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Yeah, that was a big hit for them.
I think it, you know, they're still around too.
I think it made #13 I was looking at the chart.
So number #13 this came out in what year?
84 I kind of all of these that I'm playing are kind of in
chronological order. Oh, OK.
This is like this, this is feelslike a very like industrial kind
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of vibe. I don't know.
It's like people working in likea factory kind of thing.
That's what like, I don't know if that makes sense.
That's what Depeche Mode is kindof like that they're it's got a
different sound. Like I said, they're still
around. I think they still tour, yeah.
Like I want to say they were just in the area recently, in
Tinley maybe? I wouldn't doubt it.
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It might have been on the 4th ofJuly because I know some people
didn't come to my party because they were going to a concert.
It might have been Depeche Mode.You know who else didn't go to
your party? Me because I wasn't invited.
Well, that was intentional. So OK, this is Divine
Curriculum. We got more songs coming up
here. The next one by the Icicle works
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right? Did I say that correctly?
Yep. In UK it's the Icicle works, but
here it's icicle works and the name of the song in America is
Whisper to a screen. Parentheses.
Birds fly in parentheses, but inEurope it was birds fly
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parentheses. Whisper to a scream in
parentheses. I've never heard of that.
I don't heard of. Whatever reason the the people
who are going to do it, release it in America, made them make
those changes. Another upbeat.
Love it. It wasn't a huge, it was like
#37 and then I've listened to the rest of their album.
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I don't really care for it to behonest, but this song, love it.
Why I've never who released the song?
Was it, what do you know the label that yeah.
They, they had a, they released it in Europe and into an
American company, had to take ithere.
And whoever did it said, OK, we'll do it.
But here's some changes you haveto make.
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And also the British version hasof someone talking at the
beginning and they made them take that out, although you can
kind of hear it on this one, butit must have been a longer
version. Yeah, I don't know.
That's another solid start, though I think I'm going to have
to add both those songs to my playlist to my favorite.
I was singing by the end of People, Our People.
Yeah, yeah, it wasn't very good either, but you know this one.
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You might like this one too. Come on, you might like this one
too. This is really upbeat.
OK, this is Whisper to a Scream on the vinyl curriculum.
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What are they saying? We are, and we are what?
We are but your children. We are but your children.
Finding our way round and decision we are.
We are rather helpless. Something something a whisper to
a scream. Don't.
We're not judging lyrics here, we're judging the song.
Well, the lyrics are part of it.I would think the lyrics are
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more part of me judging the songthan the lore of the.
Song. I was going to say lower is more
important. I disagree heartily, heartily.
OK, that was still pretty good. I I don't think it was up to the
tier of songs that we had with the 1st 2:00, but we'll go we'll
go B plus with that one. That's low.
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That's low, Logan. It's not that low.
It's not as low as some of the ones that we've had in the past.
We had a couple CS last week if you haven't heard you.
Cannot bring up White Zombie. If you haven't heard last week's
episode or the first episode, you can stream that now on
Spotify and or Apple Music. That's right, and this episode
will drop on Thursday. It drops every Thursday morning
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for your drive to work, so that'll be good.
We've got some more music for you right now though.
When love breaks down, right? That's where we're at.
Yep. What?
What's going on with Who is thisby?
This is by. It's called Free Fab Free Prefab
Sprout. So you can't even say it I.
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Don't know anything about them other than this one song.
The guy this guy named Patty is was the the main person in the
group and he said he's just made-up this.
When he was a kid he made-up this saying Prefab Sprout.
Interesting, but love. This song, I thought it was
because last week I said that I was a little sprout because I
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was growing. Well, there is that tie in, but
no, I as soon as you said that Itry to forget it.
But this one, you know, is it hit 42 on the charts here in
America and they they broke up not long after this so.
Well, that's not even the you know, Post Malone.
You know who Post Malone is? He came up with his rapper name
by putting it into a random rap name generator online.
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That's how he came up with Post Malone.
Interesting. And that's not even my favorite
kind of Malone. I prefer water.
But anyway, water Malone. What is that?
It's a fruit watermelon. Oh God, there's also.
If you're going to say a joke, it's going to be at least funny
enough that we even realized that that was a joke.
I realized I'm laughing. I laughed it.
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I laughed in my own head. OK, that's OK, but Prefab Sprout
Thomas Dolby was also listed on the as an.
Artist he produced. It he produced it OK, and this
is the again part of the second British invasion and so he must
be then the American producer maybe I don't know, this is just
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what it. No, Tom Thomas Dobie is not
American. How?
Oh. He's British, but it was 84 is
when this came out. 84 OK, so we're we're cruising along
through the 80s here on the vinyl curriculum and we've got
another song for you when love breaks down.
Then we'll be coming in with another impartial grade coming
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up right after this. I fear we're starting to go in
the wrong direction here, Jim, just.
OK, we're going to. Deep breath, Deep breath.
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OK, I don't know that that firstpart of the song was pretty
slow. OK?
It was it was a different vibe. Yeah, if we're talking about
dance music. We're not talking about who said
anything about dance. Music.
You said something about dance. Music.
Some of these are dance music, but you, we cannot.
Every song I play cannot be a dead gum dance song.
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Logan, you got to expand your horizon.
This is a chill song. You, you're sitting there
chilling, talking to your friends.
This is playing. You're tapping your feet.
You don't have to be up doing whatever you do.
I dance and I'm a dancing queen or a dancing machine, not you.
Said it. Wait, wait.
OK, yeah, I don't this is this is a little too chill for me.
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You all right, note to self, work on Logan liking things that
are not dance songs because there's a lot of great music
that are not fast. Yeah, I agree, but this isn't
one of those songs. OK, but your your excuse is
always. I can't dance to it.
So. All right, what are you?
What are you giving this one, Logan?
Oh gosh, C plus Oh my God, I know, I know, I know.
(18:05):
I it's it's. If we have any list, someone
please text and tell him that heneeds to stop this.
Oh gosh, yeah. Madness.
Let me know. 815-733-8517. Text us right now.
Tell me how much you agree with me.
And tell Jim we need to up the tempo a little bit here, buddy.
Come on now. Now this one, the next one's
(18:25):
upbeat, and I think you're goingto know this 10.
This one was released in 85. Is it that old?
I had the album it also it was the album was called Hounds of
Love. That was also a song on this
when it's Kate Bush. And then back in 22 it was on a
show called Stranger Things. They re it kind of came back out
(18:47):
and it made #3 on the charts. So originally it was only 30.
Oh, so 20 years later almost, and it went to number three.
Well. It had a second resurgence, much
like Bohemian Rhapsody. That's true with Wayne's World.
When Wayne's World came out it, it bounced back to #1 on the
charts for some unknown amount of time.
(19:09):
But yeah, this one's called Running Up That Hill by Kate
Bush. If you haven't heard this song,
you've been living under a rock for the past five years because
I during 2022, it must have been.
I felt like it was on a repeat on every single radio station
that I turned on. And so it it's very well known
song. But that's a great show.
Have you watched? Are you up to date on Stranger
(19:31):
Things? I'm waiting for that next season
to come out. Yep.
Think about Kate Bush. She's very unique, very
generally tour, but she go listen to this album, listen
some of her other albums. She did a a song with Peter
Gabriel and one of her albums. It was amazing, yeah.
Is she still performing? She doesn't.
Perform. No, never.
She's. Kind of not her thing, but
she's. Yeah, interesting.
(19:53):
Yeah, but anyway, listen to this.
Say what? You think she doesn't?
Yeah, I guess she kind of doesn't really strike me as a
performing artist. When?
Well, when you hear the song, you'll see This is Running Up
That Hill by Kate Bush on the Vinyl curriculum.
(20:15):
All right, Logan, now shivering with anticipation, waiting,
wondering what you're going to say about this, because this was
not upbeat. It was kind of chill, but I
think you liked it. So I'm just, I'm just waiting to
see what you say about this one.Well, I think the show probably
had a lot to do with it. Right.
OK so from now on I have to put get songs that were on some kind
(20:37):
of a show for you to like it if it's not a dance.
Song well, but I guess I'm also violating my own rule because I
said Lord doesn't make a difference and him if being on
the show is part is so you didn't even catch that.
You didn't even catch that. Yeah, you're crumbling.
You're crumbling. I don't, yeah.
(20:58):
I don't know. Growing.
You're growing. You're a child.
You're growing. Yeah, as we established last
week, little Sprout growing a little leaf.
Over here, yeah. Fluttering in the wind, nice
sunny day outside, just had my water growing.
OK, what were you, what did you give this?
(21:19):
You know you don't want to say lower than what you really
think. No, no, no, I'm not sure.
I don't do that. I give honest, impartial grades.
Remember that's that's my thing.I gave impartial grades.
We need like a drum roll. I need probably.
I think we're gonna go, we're gonna go B plus, but it's a low
(21:41):
B plus. All right, that's.
It's a, it's a low. We're gonna go like eighty,
8786% on the grading scale, Ryan.
I don't, I don't know if I agreewith that but that's fine.
At least you didn't say AC plus because it is chill, but that's
(22:02):
there are so many good songs outthere that are slow or laid back
That and there's time. You know, you're riding in the
car. Sometimes you want to just have
a a nice smooth, you know, next week, a little shout out, next
week is going to be Yacht Rock. Not wrong a lot of.
Chill, lot of chill stuff. So you're going to have to get
(22:22):
ready for that. Yes, we must.
How long have you been? How long have you been
practiced? At all a lot.
That's why I want to use it as much as possible.
Yacht Rock. OK, next week on the vinyl
curriculum. I like the guy from the Munsters
or something, I don't know. Oh yes, I don't know.
(22:43):
I'm not very. Good at it, no?
That was Running Up That Hill byKate Bush here on the vinyl
curriculum. That was good, though I I do
have to admit that is one of thebetter slower songs.
Again, the show probably had a lot to do with that for me, but
I, I see what you mean though, with the, with the lower, quote
UN quote, because like a lot of this lower business was
happening when you were aware ofit, right?
(23:07):
And this was like you talk aboutthe history of these songs you
talk about in the 80s, well before I was even born, but like
this happened while I was alive.So I feel like I feel much more
connected to this song and this lore than some of the other lore
that you've been talking about. Right, but there's songs that
that I liked that were before I was born.
(23:29):
But if I like the song and then I oh, that was an interesting
story or whatever. So well, that's what we're going
to keep working. We're going to keep working on
you with that. All right.
Here's another upbeat 1. I think you're going to know
this. This is the cure from 1987.
This is about when I was graduating college.
Just like heaven. Just like Heaven by the Cure.
Yeah, Interesting name is that. That's a band.
(23:52):
Now you know who the Cure are. Yes, they're a band.
They just actually had a new album out last year, toured,
made. It's a great album, had great
success on tour. I did not see them and I regret
it. OK, this is called Just Like
Heaven by the Cure here on the vinyl curriculum.
(24:16):
That one's a little bit more upbeat, like you said.
I don't know. This is more of like a jazz club
where snapping fingers, we're just kind of, we're kind of
moving a little bit to the music, like in a, you know.
I'm trying to picture The Cure in a jazz club.
I don't see that. Although one of these days I
want to do an episode on cover songs and there's a bluegrass
(24:39):
cover song of this by the Infamous String Dusters.
The Who now? They're called the Infamous
String Dusters, but they're bluegrass and instrumental is
this song, and it's amazing. Stop it the string the.
Thing about the Cure, it seems like half of their songs are
like upbeat and the other half are like really really Moody and
(25:02):
sad and depressed. Yeah, that the Moody.
That's not, that's not Logan. That's not what I like.
Well, I'm not playing that song for you.
I played Just Like Heaven. So what do you think?
We're going to go solid B, OK. Yeah, it was solid B It was it
was better. I could see myself not flipping
(25:22):
the station immediately when I hear that song on.
So I don't like the he's giving me the stare down right now.
This is where you're starting toget rude and remember you did
that once before. And I don't like that this is a
big hit for him. It's kind of their their first
mainstream hit because it's kindof crossed.
Over what are some other songs that I might know by the Cure?
(25:43):
Friday I'm in love is my favorite.
No, it's Friday. I'm in love.
Maybe I don't know sometimes with names.
Why? Can't I be you was on this one.
Why can't they've? Been around a long time.
Yeah. They had a Disintegration album
when I was like early 90s when Iworked at the bowling alley and
I would play that a lot. At the very million.
(26:03):
Yeah, it was rock and bowl and we would play.
Rock and Bowl, That's a great name for the bowling alley that.
Plays rock, turn the lights out and we had the yeah, it was fun.
Not really. It wasn't fun to work there, but
it was fun to to bowl I. Mean it could be fun to work
there. It's called the Rock and Bowl.
I can't imagine it not. No, it's called Rebel Lanes, but
(26:24):
the place was. But it rock and bowl is what we
did. And that's where I met my wife.
That's where I met Karen. At the Was it at during the Rock
and Bowl? No, she was in a league, a
women's league, and I was working.
Would you play an air guitar when you got a strike the Rock
and bowl? No.
OK. All right, the the next one.
Now this is this is my favorite band ever, so you better be
(26:44):
careful what you say about this one.
This is slow. Though OK, but this is.
One of the most romantic songs you're ever going to hear,
Logan. So listen to these lyrics when
he gets to the chorus. And I want you to say this to
your fiance the next time you see her, because you're going to
win her. Over Oh, is this a song to play
at the wedding? Then this would be.
You know what, this would be a good dance song for you and her
(27:05):
to play to do it. This.
I love that. Idea a slow dance.
Yeah, it's The Smiths. There is a light that never goes
out. OK love this group The Smiths.
There is a light that never goesout on the vinyl curriculum.
Take Me Out. I don't know what I get more
(27:31):
enjoyment out of, listening to the music or just watching your
face while the song is playing. That is so romantic, I love that
song. OK, no, I'm talking about, I
mean you very clearly this is your jam.
It is very clearly this is your jam.
(27:52):
This, but so you're talking about slow dancing?
I would not go slow dancing. But that's what you just that
was a joke. It was a joke because I wanted.
I mean, he's talking about if a double Decker bus crashes into
us, to die by your side is such a heavenly way to die.
If a 10 ton truck kills the bothof us to die by your side, well,
(28:12):
the pleasure, the privilege is mine.
That's this is Morrissey. He's the lead singer and that's
as about as romantic as he can get.
He's trying to be positive, but that's how it comes out because
he's kind of a he's kind of a tortured soul.
So I'm in concert last year. It is absolutely amazing.
Morrissey OK, that's The Smiths.There is a light that what is it
(28:37):
called? There never goes, that never
goes out. We're going to go with ABA.
Straight B higher than I thought.
Yeah, no, it's, I mean, it's nota slow dance song.
Like, you know, that's what I feared that it might be.
So the fact that it was not was a pleasant surprise.
For me, and I don't, that wasn'teven a single, that was just on
(28:58):
the album. The Queen is dead.
What's the name of the album? Interesting.
Yeah, interesting. That had nothing to do with the
band Queen. No, I think it was more about
the British monarchy. He was, yeah.
He's opinionated, to say the least.
The Brit OH. They were from Britain and they
had a queen back then, right? Yeah, but you just said he.
(29:22):
Morrissey, OH. So he didn't like the Queen?
I don't know what you're saying.He.
Doesn't like the whole monarchy thing.
Oh. All right.
All right, we got before we finish, there's there's two
songs I want to play, but there's two songs that I did not
play because we're running out of time, but they're on the
playlist. Life in the Northern Town by the
Dream Academy is another one of my all time favorites and it's
(29:43):
one of those when I hear that song, I used to think that's
what it was like to live up north because I was from the
South. So I thought that's what y'all
were doing when you saw when I was see the video for that.
Life in a Northern What was in the video?
Them just snowing and all this kind of stuff.
Then the other one was Secret byOMD which is Orchestral
(30:03):
Maneuvers in the dark and that was the next year they came out
on with If You Leave from the Pretty and peak soundtrack,
which is a huge hit. But I love this album too.
So those are two great songs. OK.
The next song, though, and we'rejust going to play part of it,
is Amanda by Sade O'Connor. This came out when I was a
senior. I actually used her photo in an
(30:24):
art project, not knowing who shewas.
And then I listened to her laterbecause I was using a Rolling
Stone magazine. There's a big article about her
and she was bald and very striking.
And you probably know that Prince saw nothing compares to
you that she he wrote and she sang.
Probably. Yeah.
She's bald headed. You'd know her anyway.
(30:44):
She died not too long ago. She had the issues.
But love this song Like upbeat you might like.
It Mandika, it was. She read Arthur Haley's Roots
book and it was It's a tribe in Africa and she is referencing
them. Oh, interesting.
Yeah. Mandika by Sinead O'Connor.
(31:04):
Sinead Sinead O'Connor. OK, interesting.
But then we're almost at we're here till 1:00 on Live on the
Radio and then again, we'll be posting this on Apple Podcast
and Spotify. Make sure you follow the vinyl
curriculum on both of those. This is Sinead, Sinead O'Connor.
Sorry, I still can't even get itright.
(31:29):
Sinead O'Connor on the vinyl curriculum.
Did I say right that time? Sinead, Sinead O'Connor.
Interesting. Irish.
Oh, but she's not British. I thought this was the British
invasion. It's.
The the island, the islands. The island of Britain the.
Islands. You know what, Ireland, although
(31:50):
I didn't put you 2 in there, butwe're going to act like she's
from, I'm sure she lived in England for a while.
What does it? What you can't?
That doesn't even make any sense.
OK, Sinead O'Connor Mandinka. Mandika.
Mandika. See, I'm really struggling with
this name here. It's not bad, yeah.
I like it, it's fun. B Plus.
(32:11):
OK, that's good. Actually, yeah, we're gonna go B
plus I think. Yeah, she this was her first
album that I I think this is herfirst album, The Lion, the Cobra
and the. The what?
I want to say wardrobe. But The Lion, The Witch and the
Wardrobe? That's a play.
Lion in cobra. The lion in the cobra, Yeah.
(32:33):
I was in that play when I was inmiddle school.
OK, you're the brother. Dresser.
What? No.
Were you the Ottoman or whateverthey had to go climb into?
A kid No, no, that was not a part.
I had a speaking role and I. Fought.
I'm surprised. I fought in slow motion on the
stage. You don't care.
That's OK, I care. Anyway, the huge success for her
(32:56):
and then she came out the next album.
I forgot what it's called Everything you do not want or
something. And they had that.
Nothing compares you that Princewrote.
And it was #1 forever in a day. And.
Amanda cast the name Sinead O'Connor, see?
But there's no H and that's what's throwing me off.
No, but she's got a an apostrophe.
(33:18):
An apostrophe. Yeah, isn't there like a think
it's SIN and then apostrophe E not apostrophe.
What do you call that tilde an accent?
No, the tilde is a little. Squiggle thing.
You know about or the two dots? That's German.
OK, well, janae O'Connor Amanda.Last, there's one more Logan.
(33:41):
Yeah, one more this. Is going to end on a bang and I
think this is going to push you through with a good final grade
for the whole episode. OK, we want to introduce.
This this is called the Promise by Win in Rome.
OK, not much about them. They've disbanded not long after
this one hit wonder went to #11 have always loved it.
OK, this is called The Promise by One in Rome.
(34:04):
It's a great name for a band group.
I assume this is This is not a person.
It's the group. It's a group, right?
Yep. OK.
And are they from Rome this time?
No, they're Ireland. No, they're they're from
England. I'm sure it's not.
Who knows? Well, all right, well, we'll,
we'll give it a try, give it a listen, and then we'll have one
more final grade for you here onthe vinyl curriculum.
(34:33):
This is a solid ending here, Jim.
The promise one in Rome here on the final curriculum.
I got to give it another A. No good.
I've got to give it another a. This is a fun one.
Yeah, I like this genre. We'll call it, even though it's
a British invasion. I wouldn't.
(34:53):
We're going to say the British. Isles invasion, The British
Isles. Because then Ireland is
included, so the British Isles invasion.
OK. I'm not going to change the
artwork though. I think another reason I like
this music is so many of these artists are in my vocal range.
Does that matter? Like you sing if you're like in
the. Car I do.
And I Can't Sing to like Guns and Roses or, well, these guys
(35:15):
that have the. I'm a big, I sing to Johnny
Cash. That's that's my vocal range.
I fell into the burning Ring of Fire.
See, I could do that. I could do Johnny Cash.
OK, Well, that was the promise by one in Rome.
Yeah, and now you've heard my Johnny Cash impression.
Yeah. And this let that be the last
time we do that. But no, I, I we should do a
(35:37):
Johnny Cash episode. I'm I love Johnny Cash.
I think Johnny Cash is fine too.That would be we'll do country,
we'll do old school country. All right, I met his sister one
time. It is when we went to see his
grave and his sister was there. Oh, wow, that was weird.
That's my weird Johnny. Cash you do other like George
Jones, Tammy, what other from that?
And just it might have been the movie that got me into it, but
(35:59):
yeah. There we go with the folklore.
Yeah, it does matter to you, doesn't it?
It does. It does.
So you're coming to figure out that you're not being honest
with yourself. Oh, I am.
I'm being honest. So we've got you want to review
the grades and then I'll give a genre grade for we.
Have an A, an A A/B plus, AC plus, AB plus, ABBB plus and an
(36:21):
A. So yeah, you liked them all.
You didn't care for when love breaks down, which is a lie.
I think if you listen to that again, you would love it because
that's a great one. It just had it started to start
off slow and that's. That's a problem.
That's my, that is a problem forme.
I want to say we're, we got to go a minus.
I think as a whole we're going to, we're going to get up into
(36:42):
the ace category here. It's a low a minus.
It's a, it's about a 90%, ninety, 1%, but it's still in
the, it's still an A. You know what?
It's bringing down the GPA, but it's still an A.
I'm going to give you a name. I'm going to give you an A Logan
because I feel like you're growing.
You're growing and there's hope.And I want to give you a little
bit of encouragement to continueto do that.
(37:02):
And if I give you AB Plus, whichis what my instinct would be,
you might rebel and not be a good student anymore.
So I'm going to go with A because I'm proud of you.
OK. Well, I appreciate that and a
minus for the genre and a for me.
We're getting better, you're growing.
The sprout now maybe has 2 little leaves on here fluttering
in the wind. And you're going to process next
(37:25):
week is yacht rock. So there's going to be all like
chill, slower music, and you're going to prepare yourself for
it. I'm going to yacht rock here on
the vinyl curriculum it. Doesn't sound anything like
that. Well, appreciate you bringing me
all these songs, expanding my breath of music a little bit.
This is a really fun. I really enjoy doing this.
(37:45):
We are posting these episodes onSpotify and Apple Music.
If you haven't heard the other episodes of the Vinyl
Curriculum, you can look us up. Search the Vinyl Curriculum on
either Apple or Spotify. Thank you for listening and we
will catch you all on the next one.
Bye.
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