July 31, 2025 • 43 mins
Southern Rock is raw, loud, and unapologetically full of attitude, and in this episode of Vinyl Curriculum, Logan and Jim dig into the genre’s roots in the American South. From the Allman Brothers’ jam-band brilliance to Lynyrd Skynyrd’s anthemic swagger, the two explore what made Southern Rock explode in the ’70s and why its influence still lingers today. Expect guitar riffs, storytelling, and maybe even a debate or two about what really defines the sound.
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(00:01):
Every record tells a story. Independent labels.
I think a lot of interesting songs came out of that.
And every generation has a soundtrack.
The only hip you have in your body is made of titanium.
This is the final curriculum with Logan.
Apparently I don't know very much about anything.
Somebody calls her Tay Tay. Hey, it's Logan.
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Just a quick heads up before we get into it.
This episode was originally recorded live on WLRA radio
where we are able to play all the songs that we talked about.
Unfortunately, due to copyright restrictions, we can't include
the music here on the podcast. So anytime you hear this sound,
that means we're skipping over asong that we originally played
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on air. But don't worry, Jim's put
together a playlist with all thetracks from the episode.
So you can still follow along. Just check the link in the shown
ups. All right, now on to the
episode. Welcome back to another live
episode of the Vinyl Curriculum.Logan and Jim here live in the
studio. Jim, how we doing today?
Logan, I'm doing well. How are you?
(01:05):
I'm doing fantastic. It is a beautiful day outside,
nice and toasty warm. We're in the sauna very, but I'm
happy to be inside of the nice cool air live on the radio.
Last week we were not here. We were off because your
daughter got married. But we did have the podcast that
dropped on Thursday. So if you haven't heard that, be
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sure to go and check that out. It's live right now on Spotify
and Apple Podcast, but this weekwe've got another great episode.
What's our theme this week, Jim?Southern Rock.
Southern Rock? What is Southern Rock is that
you were telling me it's not Yeehaw Rock?
Or no, I I want to know what do you think Southern Rocky is
like? What do you what?
Like do you have a an idea? Do you already know some songs?
(01:50):
I I don't know what southern rock is.
I I was under the impression that it was, it was more yeehaw
cowboy rock, but I think I was thinking more western rock.
No, Southern rock is. It was started kind of in the
70s, I would guess 80s up into even the 2000s.
And it's kind of Southern groups, obviously, but it's a
mix of rock, Blues, country, just a little bit of everything.
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It's kind of an attitude is the way I like to think of it.
And not necessarily. It's just gritty.
I don't know. A lot of guitars, a lot of jams.
Like, if you would see him in concert, I would imagine it
would. The songs were going forever and
today. So you're saying no cowboy hats
are worn for southern rock? Well, some people wear cowboy
hats if you go to like Texas, but Mississippi, we didn't.
(02:35):
Oh, OK, well, this is the vinyl curriculum.
If you haven't heard the show before, this is how this works.
Jim has put together a playlist of Southern rock this week, and
we're going to listen to it songby song.
We'll talk about a little bit. Jim will give me a little bit of
the background of the song, the lore, as we like to say around
here. And then after the song, I'll
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assign it a grade, an impartial grade, mind you, because that's
how I do. All of my grading is impartial
and of course very fair. Obviously of at all times and
not at all bias in one way or the other.
We did mention last week was mistakes and you were saying
(03:15):
that we we had some feedback that the the songs were
terrible. Yes, they said the playlist was
the title was perfect. And then The funny thing about
that is I think you like more than half of the songs.
I think I like more than half the songs actually.
That was, that was pretty good. I I think that was my favorite
episode that we've recorded so far.
(03:36):
It was the the podcast was fun talking about it because it was
so crazy. Some of them, some of the
topics, but the music, I would not listen to that playlist in
the car just for, you know, on my own doing.
I've listened to the playlist inthe car on my own doing multiple
times since we've recorded that episode.
So if you haven't heard it again, it's live on Spotify and
Apple Podcast right now. I think we just hop right into
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it. Jim, let's go.
So what is this first song? So the the first song is going
to be Free Ride and it's by the Edgar Winter group.
An interesting fact about Edgar Winter, he has a twin brother, I
mean, a brother, and both of them are albinos.
Oh yeah, just interesting. That.
Sure, sure. This was called Free ride
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though, and just think of the roller skating rink when you
hear this song. I think when I first heard the
song or first heard of the name,I was thinking of Slow Ride.
I think, Isn't that by Foghat? I don't know.
Oh, this is free ride by the Under Edgar Winter Group here on
the vinyl curriculum. Take a little free ride.
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I'll take a free ride. I like things that are free,
right? Yeah, I don't know.
So the reason I said think of the skating ring.
I remember we would skate, go tothe skating ring and rink in
Mississippi and this song would be going.
And it was so much fun. And I I brought back a memory
and I think this was like the craziest thing ever.
(05:06):
But they used to take pennies and throw them onto the skating
rink floor. Pennies like chains.
Yes. And some of them had tape on
them. And so we would have to run out
there and scramble to get as many pennies as you can.
And if you got the one with had the tape on it, you would win
some kind of prize. I don't remember what.
The problem with that is we didn't get all the pennies.
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And every once in a while you'd be skating 45 minutes later and
you'd get a penny and go flying and about break your neck.
And I'm like, who? Who thought that was a good
idea, Logan? And so that makes you think of
free ride. As well.
No, the song I didn't. Remember that you ever pay for
your ride and change you know how?
You have memories and I just remembered when I hear this
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song, I remember being skating rink and you know how you'd
wear. I had some jeans that had frill
around the pockets or white likeyeah, it was the style in the
70s. And the reason you'd wear that
would be, I don't know about that.
When they would do the black lights, it would glow and I look
so good. I thought your big two top 2
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cock socks, you know they have the big white if you wear
shorts. And so then when the lights went
out, you just it, you had to worry about what you were going
to wear to make sure you look good under the black lights.
I see and so OK. That's what we did in
Mississippi. I'm sorry.
I guess sure. OK, that was good hot start
though. As per usual, I'm going to go a
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minus for free ride. That was good 8 minus.
Yeah, he he. Have you ever heard of the song
Frankenstein? I think I.
Have. Yeah.
It's like a instrumental that hedid that was, I think it was on
that album as well. But really well known.
Really liked it, that the album did well #3 the song went up to
14. I just love that song.
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This. And I'm kind of going in
chronological order, like normal.
This was from 73. This was Frankenstein.
Oh, yeah, yeah, that's a little funky, yeah.
I feel that it's not. I guess this is more Southern
rock than I thought. I don't know a lot of heavy
metal guitar or whatever. I don't know.
That's good though. I like that.
Free ride. Edgar Winter group for sign #1.
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Solid start. A minus.
What's song #2? All right, the next one is The
Allman Brothers Band. The Allman, not The Allman
Brothers all that. More of a fan of the Cashew
Brothers. OK, I'm going to act like I
didn't hear that. Allman.
Allman, OK, Greg Allman was one of the singers and Greg Allman
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was married to Mr. Peanut Cher oh, Cher Oh, for like very short
time, four years, I guess. He is also married to six other
people. Six other people.
Oh my gosh. But this group is man, they're
from like the Jacksonville, FL. I think they ended up in Georgia
and Macon, GA. A lot of, you'll see a lot of
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South Carolina, Florida, Georgiafrom these groups.
This is 72. I had to do the second because
we, I, I told you, I want to start off upbeat and this was
not upbeat. Oh boy.
And this song is called what? Melissa.
Melissa. That's my mom's favorite song.
You know why? Because that's her name.
That's her name. That's Melissa.
All right, It's my The Allman Brothers.
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Not to be confused with Mr. Peanut and The Allman Brothers,
but. What was that sound?
You just. Did I don't know.
I don't know. I was trying to make the D.
It's the vinyl curriculum. Allman Brothers.
Sweet Melissa. I think we should turn this into
the Logan Karaoke hour. I don't think so.
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That's slow. That's slow.
But. But I've heard that song before
because it was, I think it was played by my dad, Sweet Melissa.
OK. So there's the lore is what
you're saying. No history.
To it connection not to me personal connection, not lore
connection to I don't know what I'm trying to say to the.
(09:07):
Singer So it's got to be a then if it's about your mother, kind
of. I'd go another A minus.
It was a slow song. See evolution right there of
migrating. OK, no, because there's there's
a history to it if it's. Oh yeah, OK.
What I like about in general Southern rock songs is even if
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it's a slow song, there's a lot of guitar work, especially if
you listen to the whole song on the playlist, which is available
on Spotify and Apple Music, you'll, you'll hear just guitars
going back and forth. Sometimes it's the keyboard,
sometimes it's piano, sometimes it's a harmonica, sometimes it's
a, a flute. But I, I can just imagine going
(09:51):
to seeing these people in concert and this song could go
on for 10 minutes because they're just kind of jamming
out. So that's what I like about
these Southern rock songs that I've I'm playing today.
And the guitar solos, the yeah, right, Yeah, that's what you're
talking about during the during the song there that a lot of
these songs have the similar. Guitar solos.
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I was looking this one chart thealbum did well, like #4 but the
song didn't. I mean, it was like a 86, but
they were saying that it's a fanfavorite.
Like in concert he would always play this and the fans loved it.
You know? It's a softer side.
Yeah. A lot of their stuff isn't soft
like this. OK The Allman Brothers.
I'll have to check some more of their stuff out.
What? Any other notable songs from
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them? Yes, don't ask me what they are
now. OK.
I'll go back and look it up. I didn't read my laptop.
I won't do that, but if you likethat song, I forgot to mention
this earlier, you can give us a call or text us 815-733-8517.
I'll be monitoring that text line the whole show long.
And you know what, We want you to be part of the conversation.
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I think Jim's tired of just hearing my opinion for an hour.
So we want, we want you to join in.
And whether you're on my team ornot, I'll be sure to read your
comments. So again, 815-733-8517.
Especially, you know, I'm, I grew up in the South, so this
was all very familiar to me. My, what I don't know is how
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popular this was up north. And obviously if your dad knew
it, he's a little bit younger than me, but you know, obviously
he was listening to it. But I guess it resonated if it
did well in the charts like theydid, you know?
I don't know if he was just listening to it because it was
called Sweet Melissa or Dad. If you're listening, you could,
you should text me if you, if that was your jam, if that was
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on your mixtape back in what? What did you hear this come out
you said in the 70s? This was early 70s, early
seventies, 72. All right.
Well, we've got another one for you here by ZZ.
Top yeah, Now this is older ZZ, ZZ Top They, they started off in
the 70s. I became really familiar with
them in the 80s when MTV came out.
They had some really pop hits, but they had us they had have
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you ever seen them the the two, the guitars and the bass player
had those long beers and they wear the sunglasses and.
Oh yeah, they were sharp dressed.
Man, yeah, they were. And legs and tush and all that.
They like body parts. OK This window is called Yeah,
this is called LaGrange. And like the road.
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No, the House of ill repute. OK, I don't know what that
means, but there's a road in Orland called LaGrange.
That's that's my I. Think there's a town?
Called. There is a town too.
Yeah, you're absolutely right. So why would you mention in
Orland? Why would you just say in town?
You know, I don't. There's also a town I guess.
A House of ill repute Repute is like a prostitution house.
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Oh, all right. I'm glad you don't know what
that is. OK.
But I think that's what this is talking about.
And and then if you if you know Van Halen, you know the song Hot
for teacher, yes, listen to thissong.
And now when I was listening to this song, I'm like, that sounds
familiar. That sounds kind of like, I
think Hot for teacher, like totally stole the beat of this
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song. But anyway.
You think so? And I mean, is that just kind of
this is oh, yeah, this is exactly what I think of with
Southern rock. You see in a commercial in the
desert or something, you know where it's just like Cowboy
riding in on his F-150 and they're going to be trying to
sell you a truck or something. They don't talk.
About Texas. They might have wore hats back
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then. Well, this is another great one.
ZZ Top here on the final curriculum.
They got a lot of nice girls. How?
How? How?
Home. Yeah.
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Well, ZZ Top action, I don't have a good ZZ Top impression
unfortunately. How would you even know what
this Oh, your mother guy's talking?
Yeah, well, he was on one of them was on a show called Bones.
You ever watch Bones? Well, he was the best father of
one of the shows about a forensic anthropologist.
But the artist that works there,her dad is portrayed by one of
(14:13):
the members of ZZ Top. Interesting.
They made it the Hall of Fame in2004.
The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Yeah.
There was three of them. One of them died like in 21.
So the one guy still kind of tours, but yeah.
Yeah, OK. They were also in the I think
the second Blues Brothers movie,the ZZ Top they're in.
They made Blues Brothers 2000. Yeah, they made one after after
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John Belushi done I think it waswith John, his brother with
Elwood. No, no, no.
The you're talking about who played.
Yeah, was it? Who's the other Belushi?
Jim Belushi. Jim Belushi.
No, it was it was John Goodman. That's right.
So it was Dan Aykroyd and and John Goodman got it.
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Who portrayed some other person that wasn't Jake?
That was another good one. I think that one was the best
one. Yeah, in my opinion, that's fun.
We'll go a solid. A a solid.
AI think things are going to getworse because you 3A's in a row
right? You might as this this is a new
territory for you. I know this is new territory for
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me and I really wish that we were playing this next one
because I knew I know this next one would have gotten another a
well. I we're going to skip it, but it
is on the playlist. But it's 9 minutes long and I
think everybody and their motherknow this song.
In fact, I was at a They were inPlainfield this weekend and
there was a live band and someone hollered Free Bird.
Of course they did. Do you know why do people do
(15:39):
that? I've never understood why people
do that. Let me tell you about this.
When we were in high school, this this came out in 73.
So wait, you know, I was 8, but even in high school, So 10 years
later when I was graduating, we in down South, we do a class
song and you the class would pick.
Well, we all said free Bird. And of course it wasn't that it
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ended up being love Lift us up where we belong, which was a
terrible duet, but yeah. But yeah, Free Bird is just it's
a classic. It's a.
Staple of Southern rock. Yeah, we're hearing a little bit
of it in the background, but. Yeah, Lynyrd Skynyrd was from
Jacksonville. You know, they had a plane crash
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like in 77 that killed a lot of them were hurt and he killed one
of the the Van Zandt brothers and they kind of tried to stay
together and they would other people came in.
We're going to listen to some people later on who ended up
playing for their band. But you know, Lynyrd Skynyrd,
Sweet Home Alabama, all that stuff.
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I don't, I just didn't think we need to play this.
But at least you got it in the background.
Yeah, we got a little taste of it.
And then obviously Forrest Gump made a famous appearance in
Forrest Gump. That was, I think my first real
experience with this song was with Forrest Gump.
So it's I don't even have a favorite.
What happened? That was when they were she was
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on the balcony and she was like walking around on the balcony
and it was like a real intense scene.
Can I be honest? I did.
That wasn't a thing for me. That Forrest Gump to me did not
make sense. What?
I did not care for it. What?
I didn't. How do you not care?
For it, I didn't care for it andI went to the restaurant Bubba
Gumps, and I wasn't that impressed with that either.
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Well, it's shrimp. Shrimp is big I.
Don't eat shrimp. Yeah, ideas down South.
Well, right, OK, well, there's alittle little little rendition
of Free Bird again. It's it will be on the playlist
on Spotify and Apple Music in the You can find that in the
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link down below if you're listening to the podcast
version. What is the next song?
The Marshall Tucker Band Marshall Tucker Band.
Marshall Tickle band what? Heard it in a love song.
You're going to listen to one ofmy favorites.
I love you. Don't think of flutes, but they
have a flute in here and it works.
Who else had a flute? Judas Priest would do a flute.
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OK, they had a flautist. Is that what you owe the name of
a person? Who plays the flute is the
flautist. Thank you for educating me on
that, Logan. You're welcome.
See, I appreciate it. I can contribute stuff too.
Thank you. So what is the name of this
song? Heard it in a love song.
Heard it in a love song. Is this a love song?
Yeah, because he heard it in love.
(18:29):
Well, not really. It's not at all.
Most of these aren't. OK, well we'll give it a listen
and then I'll give it another impartial grade.
We've got some good grades already here.
This is another solid episode onthe Vinyl curriculum.
Yeah, let's see what you think. I almost don't want to interrupt
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the flute solo. The flautist.
The flautist that is magical. I can imagine myself 2 step into
that. I can't imagine you 2 stepping
at all. Stop it.
I've got cowboy boots. I'm surprised I almost wore
mine. Actually, I almost wore a cowboy
hat, but then I would have felt silly.
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If this is, this isn't Western rock, it's not well, but Texas,
you know, people in Texas wear hats.
I don't like I said, I don't think people in Mississippi
really wear cowboy hats. Maybe you went to or even if
like I have a friend that lives in the southern part of Missouri
and she'll go to rodeos and people wear hats.
But going to Walmart, you're notgoing to see a hat.
Are they 10 gallon hats or are they 5 gallon hats?
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Don't know the difference. Well, one holds 10 gallons, the
other one holds 5. Yikes.
Heard in a love song by the Marshall Tucker Bands here on
the final curriculum. That was a little more yeehaw
than the. Previous one more country, yeah.
More yeehaw, we'll go B Plus it's I could see, you know
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you're on a old summer Rd. driving through the cornfield
during sunset. That's a the appropriate time to
listen to that song. Not necessarily.
Do you have hay between your teeth?
What do you? Have Yeah, you're you know, you
got hay, cowboy hat, cowboy boots.
You're maybe have to pull over and and two step a little bit
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windows down. You know, I'm talking about I
don't know. I don't even know what I'm
talking. About I don't either when I was
when we were first talking aboutSouthern rock, though, I told
you some of its bluesy, some of more country.
That's definitely I think they got a more country sound and
then the next one's going to be a little bit more rock sound.
But also the last song we're going to play was written by
this group. They did a this guy did a remix
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of one of their songs. So this was a little preview of
the remix. Yeah.
OK. I like that.
That was a good one, though. Marshall Tucker Band.
That was like, first seeing whatthe genre was for this week.
Southern rock. I thought they were all going to
sound like. Yeah, I thought they were all
going to be blue grassy. Yeehaw.
Lot of banjo. I know.
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I don't know if there's a banjo in here.
But I don't know if I would consider that.
But anyway, they still tour. I was looking, they still tour,
but nobody's in this, no original members.
So like, why are you touring? Wait, what?
Yeah, they're touring. But there's no original members.
That's like sometimes you'll seethat the spinners or or some of
those other older groups and it's like they would be dead.
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And here they show photos and they're like 30.
It's like, OK, well, yeah. That was like, I, I followed
this juggler on Instagram. He's a, a very famous juggler.
Why I'm getting there. I'm getting to the point I'm a
big circus fan. I wanted to join the circus when
I was young. I had the, the unicycle rider.
I know how to juggle all that stuff.
So I followed this juggler and he, he does his act where he's
(21:52):
juggling axes. He's got, he's got a couple axes
and, and he starts off by sayingthis axe, he's got a very
important axe, very historic axe.
He said this is the axe that George Washington used to chop
down the Cherry Tree outside of his house, right?
You know the how that saying goes?
Yes, he chopped down the Cherry Tree.
He's got. He's got the axe.
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Says it's a very old axe. So we had to replace the handle
and the head of the axe. OK.
That's what that made. Me think of terrible, that was
not terrible. That is a great story.
I hope he has a better. Delivery.
When he says it, he does. He's he's.
Much funnier than I am, but you know, my wife taught herself.
How to ride a unicycle that is impressive?
(22:34):
That is impressive. And I I did through a series of
YouTube videos and my dad knows how to do it.
So that was part of it like. Father like son, something like
that. Yeah.
All right. What's the next one?
All right, the next one's. Called Blackfoot and it's called
Train Train and the girl I datedin high school who was the big
Ozzy fan, by the way, RIP Ozzy. That just happened.
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Very sad for that, but she had this album and it's a whole
different thing. But what's really fun about this
one is it starts off with harmonica.
And he's there. Imitating a train horn with her
and then it goes right into thismore Hard Rock, but then it's
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still got that country, country southern rock sound so.
Yeah, I at one point wanted to learn how to play the harmonica.
I have a lot of weird interests and talents, in case you haven't
figured that out. A lot of weird and, you know,
things that I want to learn how to do.
I'm always trying to better myself.
I want to learn how to do thingsand those are a lot of first
(23:35):
things to do. I was one of the first.
Thank you for that. That was one of the first things
I learned how to do was sound like a train on the harmonica.
All this guy's a little better at it than I am, though.
So this. Is train.
Train by Blackfoot on the vinyl curriculum.
Choo Choo. Little.
(24:06):
Train, train action. That was more my.
Speed, I think that kind of harder rock, yeah.
Less country. I think I'd have to give that.
Another AI can't even lie. Why would you think about?
It I don't know why I would want.
To lie, I can't lie. That was good.
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That was good. It's the lore.
Of the harmonica called you I, Idon't even think it's.
Just that though, I think it's there's a heavy guitar and I
think I like that like a harder rock rock'n'roll where you're
like, you know, you can, you know, move your but like not
necessarily like Hard Rock head banging, but like, you know,
kind of kind of move to the music a little bit They.
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They're from Jacksonville and they, their name, they were
called something else, but then they change their name to
Blackfoot, like the Native American tribe, because most of
them have Native American heritage.
That's where they got that. I didn't know that.
I've heard of Blackfoot though. Yeah, there.
There was another highway song was another one that they did.
(25:13):
I think it's on that same album.What I've noticed is I'm
listening to this. These songs are about men who
are in love with women, but thenthey got to go or I'm in love
with this woman, but I'm leavingtown like it's where are they
going? They're on the road, they're.
Travelling. And.
He says that woman I'm in love with has to go.
Like what? Life of a rock star.
(25:35):
I guess that is their you know, that's kind of the the old
cliche, right that it's just that's just you know, well,
that's what you're on the road all the time.
I saw an interview with. Greg Allman and he was talking
to Dan Rather, I think, and he said, you know, what happened
between you and Cher, It wasn't that long of a marriage.
He said I have a tendency of marry women and then they want
(25:58):
to change me. And he said I'm not going to
change. Yeah.
And then obviously he's. Seven times someone they kept
trying. Well, that's not always the.
Case though because you look at Ozzy yeah I mean Sharon I think
ruled Ozzy, you know had a had apretty tight grip on him and try
to control him at least a littlebit as to her best of her
ability and you know did a lot of good things for him like
(26:21):
sound to rehab and did all that stuff and you know probably was
the reason that he was around aslong as he was and made a lot of
money and absolutely made a lot of money and you know I guess
the first time I was introduced to Sharon was when she was a
judge on America's Got Talent. I used to watch that show
religiously and that was like the first year when she was on
(26:44):
it. It was David Hasselhoff was
stop. It Knight Rider.
Yeah, he was a singer too, you know, he's very popular in
Europe. What?
Yes, Google it. It's crazy.
They like love him over there. The Hoff.
I don't know if they call him the Hoff.
He was also in the SpongeBob. Movie.
I'm pretty sure that what that'swhat they call him, right?
I don't know. I don't.
You know another when I listen that song too.
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The the do you. Remember Greece, did you?
See the movie Greece We're born to hand jive.
You know, they're doing that dance.
That's that's what that sounded like.
Yeah. I think Greece people stole that
from. Blackfoot, is that what you?
(27:26):
Think all. Right, so.
We kind of done the 70s versionsof I Can't Even Think now,
Southern Rock Southern. Rock.
Now we're going into. The 80s and it becomes a little
bit more poppy. And so this is 38 Special.
I'm sure you've heard this one because they did.
They would do MTV Video. Oh yeah.
(27:46):
But very. Still Southern rock, but very
successful, yeah. This is this is one of the more
popular songs, I think that's still played on the radio.
Yeah. This is a little song called
Hold On Loosely by 38 Special, not to be confused with 37
Special. That's a different brand.
We'll talk to it. We'll talk.
(28:07):
We don't want to lose control here on the vinyl curriculum.
I'm just 38 Special another top tier addition to the Southern
Rock playlist for this week in this week's class that we're
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listening to. So what do you?
Think of that one gonna be another solid A.
These are top tier. Choices.
Well, they are. They're the best of the best in
my in my mind. Yeah.
So the guy who started what Co founded this Donnie Van Zandt
was the brother of Ronnie and Johnny, who are Lynyrd Skynyrd.
(28:55):
Oh. Ronald.
Ronald Leonard. Leonard.
Skynyrd was were brothers. There's a.
Donnie, a Ronnie and a Johnny. Wow, that's really creative with
the. Names.
That's crazy. OK, well, they're all.
I mean, they're all. I've heard of that.
They're all rhyming. They all start with the same
letter. See that too?
Yeah, they're from. Jacksonville, see, a lot of
people are from that area, from Florida, yeah, that's not.
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An area that I would associate Rock'n'roll with.
Like this kind of rock. I don't know what I I.
Would guess I would just like The Beach Boys or something.
I don't know what I'd associate with Florida, but The Beach
Boys, well, are California OK? You know, hot weather, humid.
No. Basically the.
(29:36):
Same but. You know, Northern.
Florida, like Jacksonville is like Georgia.
I mean, it's the Panhandle is very southern.
It's not right, Right, Right. So so that song.
Was Co written by the the guy from Survivor.
You know, the eye of the tiger. And please don't start singing
that. Oh yeah.
I do know that song. Of course you know it because
it's. Rocky.
You probably love Rocky. I do love Rocky.
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How did you know that? Because you like.
Stuff like that. You know what that's.
Another one I wasn't impressed with.
I thought Adrian was a terrible actress.
Adrian. Hey, Adrian.
See my my sly My sly impression isn't bad.
(30:18):
I think it I. Think it's very bad, actually.
Adrian got to feed my turtle. Yeah.
Is that a reference from. See, I don't even know.
Is that a reference? Yeah, he has a turtle.
See, I don't even remember that.OK, See, you're.
You're killing me with pop culture references.
I didn't like it for whatever reason.
Oh gosh. OK, well, what's the next song
(30:39):
that we've been working with here?
This is another one that. Was a pretty popular hit.
Main number 2. The single did and they they
kind of came in with the MTV era.
This is 89. So this is a little bit later or
86. MTV was going strong.
Keep your hands to yourself by the Georgia satellites.
Keep your hands to. Yourself.
(30:59):
That's a good rule for all people.
I feel like. I think you're going to know
this one too. OK, This is by the Georgia
satellites. Wouldn't know if you told.
If you just told me Georgia satellites, I wouldn't know who
that is. Well, see what you think.
You know this is keep your. Hands to yourself on the vinyl
curriculum. I do know that one.
(31:32):
I thought you would. That's a popular one as well.
I feel like this week out of allof the weeks has had more hits,
hits and well known songs. I your MO lately has been kind
of B sides and lesser known songs but there was more well
(31:53):
known ones here I didn't know how.
Much you would know. I'm a smart.
Person OK, thanks to your dad. Well, your dad introduced you to
some of these, but that's great.Yeah.
I mean I. Think I could probably count
1234. I hope you can.
Count. 567. 7-8 of. These at least that I know.
(32:17):
OK, so you're, you're a southern.
Rocker. I think so.
You didn't know it. Yeah.
Let me get my Leonard. Skynyrd T-shirt out.
I'd I'd say another a Oh my goodness, this is like.
An A stop. The presses.
Stop the press like my last report.
Card. Lot of A's.
Lot of A's on there. Not if you're in my class they.
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Wouldn't have been. OK, so they they.
I guess that was the only reallyone I remembered.
So I looked to see what happenedto him and they tried to stay
together, but they were fightingwithin each other and it just
kind of, well, then he went, theone guy went on his own and
there wasn't much to it, the satellites.
I like to be alone in space. The satellites don't fly in
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packs, they all fly by themselves.
So, you know, that's a good point.
Logan. Yeah, once in a while.
I have some of those now. Remember the other?
Day one of the things we're talking about how I would play
music at the bowling alley. You talk about quite.
Quite frequently about playing music of the bowling alley.
Actually this one when this. Came out I would play this one
and it was a huge hit. This whole album is good.
(33:21):
Okay, The Black Crows. Have you heard of the I haven't
heard of the Black Crows. Yeah.
Hard to handle. Hard to handle, okay.
And what's the deal with this song?
This was early 70s, late 70s. This is 90. 90 we're now getting
into. Yeah, we're advancing.
Yep. The last one was 86.
This is 90. Like I said, this is when I was
working at the bowling alley. We've been going in
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chronological order, kind of. Yeah.
OK, So we see the evolution of Southern rock.
Yeah. OK.
And is this more rock'n'roll? Is this more country?
What is this more rock? And it's more pop.
I mean, I feel like. They were wanting hits.
All right, well, let's. Give it a listen.
This is the black crows hard to handle and then another
impartial grade right after this.
(34:19):
Hard to handle are. You do you think I'm hard to
handle during this show? Yeah, I do.
Not. This show though, the grades
have all been really good. This is another good one,
another one that I've heard before, and another a see
that's. Troubling though, because now it
used to was dance, but now if you know it then you're going
(34:39):
to. That's not entirely accurate.
That is not entirely accurate, though I wouldn't say it is.
These are all high energy songs.Melissa wasn't.
Well, it was your mother's name,and that was that was an A
minus. But you told me that I need to
evolve my grading and be more impartial.
You know, yeah. That was actually a remake of an
(35:02):
Otis Redding song. You remember Otis Redding?
I've. I think so. 1960. 8 And that was
like Dock of the Bay. You know the Michael.
Michael Bolton recorded that oneis a thing.
But anyway, that was. Gritty.
Kind of. Retro fun.
That one's good. I I listened to it the other
(35:22):
day. Hadn't it's been a while, I
still enjoyed it. That one is also.
Still played quite frequently onthe radio, so I've I would
consider that a hit of the time.Yeah, that was big.
It went. #4 the album did the song was only 26 but really see
I, I'm. So bad with rating how high an
(35:43):
album charted, I would have thought that that based on how
much they play it now, I would have thought that would have
charted a lot higher than it actually did.
But you never know what it. Was what was it going up
against? That's true.
And I don't know like what was? It going up.
What else came out this year? I did 90.
I mean that I'm sure Prince and Madonna and George Michael, and
(36:04):
I'm just throwing names to people out the, you know, the
pop stuff and stuff like this, though, you think about it, if
it's a rock, rock album, people are going to buy the album and
they're less likely to buy the single.
That's true. You know, but was this, this was
part of an album though, wasn't it?
Yeah. And I'm trying to.
Think of what that other one wasthat was a big hit for them.
For. For the black crows, yeah, I
(36:26):
don't know, but you'll know it. Yeah, I don't.
Know I'm looking at some of these ones for billboard year
end Hot 100 singles of 1990 holdon by Wilson Phillips never
heard of him oh. Her.
Her. Him.
Her. Them.
Alright, you did you see? Bridesmaids, no.
OK, is that a movie? Oh my God, you.
Haven't seen Bridesmaids? You're going to sit here and
(36:47):
watch Rocky and Forrest Gump, but you're not going to watch
Bridesmaids, correct? Yeah, you've.
Got to watch the. Your homework student Logan for
the next week is to watch Bridesmaids.
The most funny? The most hilarious?
Anyway, I loved it. OK, twice as hard.
This is some of the songs she talks to.
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Angels I think was a hit, a single.
I'm trying to think. I don't know.
I know some of these because I had the album, but I they had at
least three singles from that album.
OK, it's. Good.
Sure. All right.
Well, all right. Another A Wow.
Just got time for a couple. More songs here.
The next one, Midnight in Harlem.
(37:29):
This is now. We're getting in 2011 and whoa,
I'm trying to find a female singer for a southern rock band
in it. I was having a hard time and
when I was I found a list of southern art and I knew this
song because I just happened to have it on my liked Spotify
stuff. It's called the Tedeschi Trucks
(37:51):
Band Tedeschi or Tedeschi Tedeschi SCHI.
I feel like it's a she sound when I looked it up it.
Said TH-DES-K EE OK. Tedeschi.
Sure, Tedeschi. Yeah.
I don't know. All right, we'll have to ask.
(38:12):
Her Sure, we'll get her on next week.
This one is Midnight in Harlem by the Tedeschi Trucks Band,
here on the vinyl curriculum. Let's give it a listen.
The Tabaski Trucks Band here on the vinyl curriculum that was a
(38:33):
little slower. I was that we took a step down
there and your mother's name is not.
Tedeski So no, I only can imagine this is going to be B
minus. That's what I thought.
You're predictable. Susan Tedeski and Derek Trucks.
That's where the name comes from, and he thought it was a
brand name. Of 18 Wheelers, Derek Trucks
was. In The Allman Brothers band
(38:54):
later on though, like, you know how they just kind of stuck
around sound? I don't know, I always like that
song. She sounds like Bonnie Raitt to
me. It's a little little.
Too slow for my liking, but but this is going to cheer.
You up, I warned. I told you I like to end on
positive upbeat. This is Remember I told you
there was a song from the The Marshall Tucker Tucker Band
wrote recorded in 74. This guy, the Marcus King Band
(39:19):
redid it in 2019. This old cowboy, this old OOLE.
Apostrophe not. Old that, that's a very southern
thing, right? No, he's actually OL.
Apostrophe. There's not even E on it.
Yeah, this. Old Cowboy by the Marcus King
Band and this whole round out our our here on the vinyl
(39:39):
curriculum. Thanks so much for listening.
I'm having a great time. This is a great episode.
Let's take a listen. This old.
Cowboy. This little cowboy doesn't.
Know how he feels about that song?
(40:00):
Stop it. I think you're just getting.
Southern rock fatigue? Maybe.
Maybe. But that's just not, that's not
a heart like Hard Rock enough for me.
You didn't listen to it enough because.
This is a great song, so go backand listen to the playlist.
But the guitar work and everything, he's this guy's like
amazing with it. All right, give me a grade.
(40:20):
There's got to be another B. Minus oh God.
So you were doing. So well.
And then reality hit, I guess. But it's just like.
There's such a. Variety in the genre as well.
Yep. You know, And that's got to be
taking into account for the grade for the whole episode.
(40:42):
Now, we had a lot of A's. We had a lot of A's for Southern
Rock. So it has to be A at.
Least an A I'm just telling you right now.
I know I I. Think we're going to go, we're
going to go high a -, a high a minus.
So you know what is that if it'sgot to be a 93%, maybe 90?
(41:05):
292 1/2. Percent, we'll call it.
Like I said, I if you. Were my student.
Normally I round up if I like the students, but I would not
round yourself. Let me.
Tell you something though, I'm going to.
Be very honest, Southern rock isnot my thing I don't care for
for the most part. I do like all these songs OK but
I would not go listen except. For maybe the black.
(41:26):
The Black Crows, I don't just listen to the albums because
it's not my thing. But you're an album.
Listener, like, I don't ever go and say I'm going to listen to
this whole album. I do typically.
Never do that. I do.
But that's what we're trying to get you to do because there's a
lot of good songs. It's just Southern rock.
I don't know if I'm from Mississippi.
It just wasn't my thing back then.
I like certain songs like like Iplayed here.
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But it like, if you're going to say here's a genre, go listen to
it. I would not pick Southern rock.
OK. That's just a personal.
Preference. But see how I can still have a
preference and still come up with songs of that care.
OK, well you have to give. Me a grade now for my grading.
I'm proud of you. You, you're.
You're fading at the end, but you started off so high that I
(42:10):
got to give you an A, yes. I think that I don't remember
what I got last week and we didn't grade last week though.
No, I would have given you. AF because you were so out of In
Touch with reality liking some of those terrible songs.
No, no, no. I.
Really was not. I had AI, had a great time last
week. I had a great time this week.
Hopefully you did as well. Again, we've got the phone
(42:30):
number 815-733-8517. Feel free to text us at any
point when you're listening or give us a call.
Leave us a message. You might hear yourself on air
next week. This was Southern rock here on
the vinyl curriculum. Another great episode.
I had a fun time. Hopefully you did as well, Jim.
I did with some of my high quality grading.
(42:51):
Yes, high quality, non bias at all grading.
I don't know about that. But you know, that's a whole
another conversation. All right.
Well, thanks for. Another fantastic week here on
the Vinyl curriculum and we willcatch you on the next one.
Bye.
Every record tells a story. Independent labels.
I think a lot of interesting songs came out of that.
And every generation has a soundtrack.
The only hip you have in your body is made of titanium.
This is the final curriculum with Logan.
Apparently I don't know very much about anything.
Somebody calls her Tay Tay. Hey, it's Logan.
(00:23):
Just a quick heads up before we get into it.
This episode was originally recorded live on WLRA radio
where we are able to play all the songs that we talked about.
Unfortunately, due to copyright restrictions, we can't include
the music here on the podcast. So anytime you hear this sound,
that means we're skipping over asong that we originally played
(00:44):
on air. But don't worry, Jim's put
together a playlist with all thetracks from the episode.
So you can still follow along. Just check the link in the shown
ups. All right, now on to the
episode. Welcome back to another live
episode of the Vinyl Curriculum.Logan and Jim here live in the
studio. Jim, how we doing today?
Logan, I'm doing well. How are you?
(01:05):
I'm doing fantastic. It is a beautiful day outside,
nice and toasty warm. We're in the sauna very, but I'm
happy to be inside of the nice cool air live on the radio.
Last week we were not here. We were off because your
daughter got married. But we did have the podcast that
dropped on Thursday. So if you haven't heard that, be
(01:27):
sure to go and check that out. It's live right now on Spotify
and Apple Podcast, but this weekwe've got another great episode.
What's our theme this week, Jim?Southern Rock.
Southern Rock? What is Southern Rock is that
you were telling me it's not Yeehaw Rock?
Or no, I I want to know what do you think Southern Rocky is
like? What do you what?
Like do you have a an idea? Do you already know some songs?
(01:50):
I I don't know what southern rock is.
I I was under the impression that it was, it was more yeehaw
cowboy rock, but I think I was thinking more western rock.
No, Southern rock is. It was started kind of in the
70s, I would guess 80s up into even the 2000s.
And it's kind of Southern groups, obviously, but it's a
mix of rock, Blues, country, just a little bit of everything.
(02:15):
It's kind of an attitude is the way I like to think of it.
And not necessarily. It's just gritty.
I don't know. A lot of guitars, a lot of jams.
Like, if you would see him in concert, I would imagine it
would. The songs were going forever and
today. So you're saying no cowboy hats
are worn for southern rock? Well, some people wear cowboy
hats if you go to like Texas, but Mississippi, we didn't.
(02:35):
Oh, OK, well, this is the vinyl curriculum.
If you haven't heard the show before, this is how this works.
Jim has put together a playlist of Southern rock this week, and
we're going to listen to it songby song.
We'll talk about a little bit. Jim will give me a little bit of
the background of the song, the lore, as we like to say around
here. And then after the song, I'll
(02:55):
assign it a grade, an impartial grade, mind you, because that's
how I do. All of my grading is impartial
and of course very fair. Obviously of at all times and
not at all bias in one way or the other.
We did mention last week was mistakes and you were saying
(03:15):
that we we had some feedback that the the songs were
terrible. Yes, they said the playlist was
the title was perfect. And then The funny thing about
that is I think you like more than half of the songs.
I think I like more than half the songs actually.
That was, that was pretty good. I I think that was my favorite
episode that we've recorded so far.
(03:36):
It was the the podcast was fun talking about it because it was
so crazy. Some of them, some of the
topics, but the music, I would not listen to that playlist in
the car just for, you know, on my own doing.
I've listened to the playlist inthe car on my own doing multiple
times since we've recorded that episode.
So if you haven't heard it again, it's live on Spotify and
Apple Podcast right now. I think we just hop right into
(03:59):
it. Jim, let's go.
So what is this first song? So the the first song is going
to be Free Ride and it's by the Edgar Winter group.
An interesting fact about Edgar Winter, he has a twin brother, I
mean, a brother, and both of them are albinos.
Oh yeah, just interesting. That.
Sure, sure. This was called Free ride
(04:19):
though, and just think of the roller skating rink when you
hear this song. I think when I first heard the
song or first heard of the name,I was thinking of Slow Ride.
I think, Isn't that by Foghat? I don't know.
Oh, this is free ride by the Under Edgar Winter Group here on
the vinyl curriculum. Take a little free ride.
(04:46):
I'll take a free ride. I like things that are free,
right? Yeah, I don't know.
So the reason I said think of the skating ring.
I remember we would skate, go tothe skating ring and rink in
Mississippi and this song would be going.
And it was so much fun. And I I brought back a memory
and I think this was like the craziest thing ever.
(05:06):
But they used to take pennies and throw them onto the skating
rink floor. Pennies like chains.
Yes. And some of them had tape on
them. And so we would have to run out
there and scramble to get as many pennies as you can.
And if you got the one with had the tape on it, you would win
some kind of prize. I don't remember what.
The problem with that is we didn't get all the pennies.
(05:28):
And every once in a while you'd be skating 45 minutes later and
you'd get a penny and go flying and about break your neck.
And I'm like, who? Who thought that was a good
idea, Logan? And so that makes you think of
free ride. As well.
No, the song I didn't. Remember that you ever pay for
your ride and change you know how?
You have memories and I just remembered when I hear this
(05:48):
song, I remember being skating rink and you know how you'd
wear. I had some jeans that had frill
around the pockets or white likeyeah, it was the style in the
70s. And the reason you'd wear that
would be, I don't know about that.
When they would do the black lights, it would glow and I look
so good. I thought your big two top 2
(06:11):
cock socks, you know they have the big white if you wear
shorts. And so then when the lights went
out, you just it, you had to worry about what you were going
to wear to make sure you look good under the black lights.
I see and so OK. That's what we did in
Mississippi. I'm sorry.
I guess sure. OK, that was good hot start
though. As per usual, I'm going to go a
(06:32):
minus for free ride. That was good 8 minus.
Yeah, he he. Have you ever heard of the song
Frankenstein? I think I.
Have. Yeah.
It's like a instrumental that hedid that was, I think it was on
that album as well. But really well known.
Really liked it, that the album did well #3 the song went up to
14. I just love that song.
(06:55):
This. And I'm kind of going in
chronological order, like normal.
This was from 73. This was Frankenstein.
Oh, yeah, yeah, that's a little funky, yeah.
I feel that it's not. I guess this is more Southern
rock than I thought. I don't know a lot of heavy
metal guitar or whatever. I don't know.
That's good though. I like that.
Free ride. Edgar Winter group for sign #1.
(07:18):
Solid start. A minus.
What's song #2? All right, the next one is The
Allman Brothers Band. The Allman, not The Allman
Brothers all that. More of a fan of the Cashew
Brothers. OK, I'm going to act like I
didn't hear that. Allman.
Allman, OK, Greg Allman was one of the singers and Greg Allman
(07:38):
was married to Mr. Peanut Cher oh, Cher Oh, for like very short
time, four years, I guess. He is also married to six other
people. Six other people.
Oh my gosh. But this group is man, they're
from like the Jacksonville, FL. I think they ended up in Georgia
and Macon, GA. A lot of, you'll see a lot of
(07:59):
South Carolina, Florida, Georgiafrom these groups.
This is 72. I had to do the second because
we, I, I told you, I want to start off upbeat and this was
not upbeat. Oh boy.
And this song is called what? Melissa.
Melissa. That's my mom's favorite song.
You know why? Because that's her name.
That's her name. That's Melissa.
All right, It's my The Allman Brothers.
(08:20):
Not to be confused with Mr. Peanut and The Allman Brothers,
but. What was that sound?
You just. Did I don't know.
I don't know. I was trying to make the D.
It's the vinyl curriculum. Allman Brothers.
Sweet Melissa. I think we should turn this into
the Logan Karaoke hour. I don't think so.
(08:45):
That's slow. That's slow.
But. But I've heard that song before
because it was, I think it was played by my dad, Sweet Melissa.
OK. So there's the lore is what
you're saying. No history.
To it connection not to me personal connection, not lore
connection to I don't know what I'm trying to say to the.
(09:07):
Singer So it's got to be a then if it's about your mother, kind
of. I'd go another A minus.
It was a slow song. See evolution right there of
migrating. OK, no, because there's there's
a history to it if it's. Oh yeah, OK.
What I like about in general Southern rock songs is even if
(09:27):
it's a slow song, there's a lot of guitar work, especially if
you listen to the whole song on the playlist, which is available
on Spotify and Apple Music, you'll, you'll hear just guitars
going back and forth. Sometimes it's the keyboard,
sometimes it's piano, sometimes it's a harmonica, sometimes it's
a, a flute. But I, I can just imagine going
(09:51):
to seeing these people in concert and this song could go
on for 10 minutes because they're just kind of jamming
out. So that's what I like about
these Southern rock songs that I've I'm playing today.
And the guitar solos, the yeah, right, Yeah, that's what you're
talking about during the during the song there that a lot of
these songs have the similar. Guitar solos.
(10:13):
I was looking this one chart thealbum did well, like #4 but the
song didn't. I mean, it was like a 86, but
they were saying that it's a fanfavorite.
Like in concert he would always play this and the fans loved it.
You know? It's a softer side.
Yeah. A lot of their stuff isn't soft
like this. OK The Allman Brothers.
I'll have to check some more of their stuff out.
What? Any other notable songs from
(10:35):
them? Yes, don't ask me what they are
now. OK.
I'll go back and look it up. I didn't read my laptop.
I won't do that, but if you likethat song, I forgot to mention
this earlier, you can give us a call or text us 815-733-8517.
I'll be monitoring that text line the whole show long.
And you know what, We want you to be part of the conversation.
(10:58):
I think Jim's tired of just hearing my opinion for an hour.
So we want, we want you to join in.
And whether you're on my team ornot, I'll be sure to read your
comments. So again, 815-733-8517.
Especially, you know, I'm, I grew up in the South, so this
was all very familiar to me. My, what I don't know is how
(11:20):
popular this was up north. And obviously if your dad knew
it, he's a little bit younger than me, but you know, obviously
he was listening to it. But I guess it resonated if it
did well in the charts like theydid, you know?
I don't know if he was just listening to it because it was
called Sweet Melissa or Dad. If you're listening, you could,
you should text me if you, if that was your jam, if that was
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on your mixtape back in what? What did you hear this come out
you said in the 70s? This was early 70s, early
seventies, 72. All right.
Well, we've got another one for you here by ZZ.
Top yeah, Now this is older ZZ, ZZ Top They, they started off in
the 70s. I became really familiar with
them in the 80s when MTV came out.
They had some really pop hits, but they had us they had have
(12:04):
you ever seen them the the two, the guitars and the bass player
had those long beers and they wear the sunglasses and.
Oh yeah, they were sharp dressed.
Man, yeah, they were. And legs and tush and all that.
They like body parts. OK This window is called Yeah,
this is called LaGrange. And like the road.
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No, the House of ill repute. OK, I don't know what that
means, but there's a road in Orland called LaGrange.
That's that's my I. Think there's a town?
Called. There is a town too.
Yeah, you're absolutely right. So why would you mention in
Orland? Why would you just say in town?
You know, I don't. There's also a town I guess.
A House of ill repute Repute is like a prostitution house.
(12:45):
Oh, all right. I'm glad you don't know what
that is. OK.
But I think that's what this is talking about.
And and then if you if you know Van Halen, you know the song Hot
for teacher, yes, listen to thissong.
And now when I was listening to this song, I'm like, that sounds
familiar. That sounds kind of like, I
think Hot for teacher, like totally stole the beat of this
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song. But anyway.
You think so? And I mean, is that just kind of
this is oh, yeah, this is exactly what I think of with
Southern rock. You see in a commercial in the
desert or something, you know where it's just like Cowboy
riding in on his F-150 and they're going to be trying to
sell you a truck or something. They don't talk.
About Texas. They might have wore hats back
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then. Well, this is another great one.
ZZ Top here on the final curriculum.
They got a lot of nice girls. How?
How? How?
Home. Yeah.
(13:51):
Well, ZZ Top action, I don't have a good ZZ Top impression
unfortunately. How would you even know what
this Oh, your mother guy's talking?
Yeah, well, he was on one of them was on a show called Bones.
You ever watch Bones? Well, he was the best father of
one of the shows about a forensic anthropologist.
But the artist that works there,her dad is portrayed by one of
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the members of ZZ Top. Interesting.
They made it the Hall of Fame in2004.
The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Yeah.
There was three of them. One of them died like in 21.
So the one guy still kind of tours, but yeah.
Yeah, OK. They were also in the I think
the second Blues Brothers movie,the ZZ Top they're in.
They made Blues Brothers 2000. Yeah, they made one after after
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John Belushi done I think it waswith John, his brother with
Elwood. No, no, no.
The you're talking about who played.
Yeah, was it? Who's the other Belushi?
Jim Belushi. Jim Belushi.
No, it was it was John Goodman. That's right.
So it was Dan Aykroyd and and John Goodman got it.
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Who portrayed some other person that wasn't Jake?
That was another good one. I think that one was the best
one. Yeah, in my opinion, that's fun.
We'll go a solid. A a solid.
AI think things are going to getworse because you 3A's in a row
right? You might as this this is a new
territory for you. I know this is new territory for
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me and I really wish that we were playing this next one
because I knew I know this next one would have gotten another a
well. I we're going to skip it, but it
is on the playlist. But it's 9 minutes long and I
think everybody and their motherknow this song.
In fact, I was at a They were inPlainfield this weekend and
there was a live band and someone hollered Free Bird.
Of course they did. Do you know why do people do
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that? I've never understood why people
do that. Let me tell you about this.
When we were in high school, this this came out in 73.
So wait, you know, I was 8, but even in high school, So 10 years
later when I was graduating, we in down South, we do a class
song and you the class would pick.
Well, we all said free Bird. And of course it wasn't that it
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ended up being love Lift us up where we belong, which was a
terrible duet, but yeah. But yeah, Free Bird is just it's
a classic. It's a.
Staple of Southern rock. Yeah, we're hearing a little bit
of it in the background, but. Yeah, Lynyrd Skynyrd was from
Jacksonville. You know, they had a plane crash
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like in 77 that killed a lot of them were hurt and he killed one
of the the Van Zandt brothers and they kind of tried to stay
together and they would other people came in.
We're going to listen to some people later on who ended up
playing for their band. But you know, Lynyrd Skynyrd,
Sweet Home Alabama, all that stuff.
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I don't, I just didn't think we need to play this.
But at least you got it in the background.
Yeah, we got a little taste of it.
And then obviously Forrest Gump made a famous appearance in
Forrest Gump. That was, I think my first real
experience with this song was with Forrest Gump.
So it's I don't even have a favorite.
What happened? That was when they were she was
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on the balcony and she was like walking around on the balcony
and it was like a real intense scene.
Can I be honest? I did.
That wasn't a thing for me. That Forrest Gump to me did not
make sense. What?
I did not care for it. What?
I didn't. How do you not care?
For it, I didn't care for it andI went to the restaurant Bubba
Gumps, and I wasn't that impressed with that either.
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Well, it's shrimp. Shrimp is big I.
Don't eat shrimp. Yeah, ideas down South.
Well, right, OK, well, there's alittle little little rendition
of Free Bird again. It's it will be on the playlist
on Spotify and Apple Music in the You can find that in the
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link down below if you're listening to the podcast
version. What is the next song?
The Marshall Tucker Band Marshall Tucker Band.
Marshall Tickle band what? Heard it in a love song.
You're going to listen to one ofmy favorites.
I love you. Don't think of flutes, but they
have a flute in here and it works.
Who else had a flute? Judas Priest would do a flute.
(18:08):
OK, they had a flautist. Is that what you owe the name of
a person? Who plays the flute is the
flautist. Thank you for educating me on
that, Logan. You're welcome.
See, I appreciate it. I can contribute stuff too.
Thank you. So what is the name of this
song? Heard it in a love song.
Heard it in a love song. Is this a love song?
Yeah, because he heard it in love.
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Well, not really. It's not at all.
Most of these aren't. OK, well we'll give it a listen
and then I'll give it another impartial grade.
We've got some good grades already here.
This is another solid episode onthe Vinyl curriculum.
Yeah, let's see what you think. I almost don't want to interrupt
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the flute solo. The flautist.
The flautist that is magical. I can imagine myself 2 step into
that. I can't imagine you 2 stepping
at all. Stop it.
I've got cowboy boots. I'm surprised I almost wore
mine. Actually, I almost wore a cowboy
hat, but then I would have felt silly.
(19:15):
If this is, this isn't Western rock, it's not well, but Texas,
you know, people in Texas wear hats.
I don't like I said, I don't think people in Mississippi
really wear cowboy hats. Maybe you went to or even if
like I have a friend that lives in the southern part of Missouri
and she'll go to rodeos and people wear hats.
But going to Walmart, you're notgoing to see a hat.
Are they 10 gallon hats or are they 5 gallon hats?
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Don't know the difference. Well, one holds 10 gallons, the
other one holds 5. Yikes.
Heard in a love song by the Marshall Tucker Bands here on
the final curriculum. That was a little more yeehaw
than the. Previous one more country, yeah.
More yeehaw, we'll go B Plus it's I could see, you know
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you're on a old summer Rd. driving through the cornfield
during sunset. That's a the appropriate time to
listen to that song. Not necessarily.
Do you have hay between your teeth?
What do you? Have Yeah, you're you know, you
got hay, cowboy hat, cowboy boots.
You're maybe have to pull over and and two step a little bit
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windows down. You know, I'm talking about I
don't know. I don't even know what I'm
talking. About I don't either when I was
when we were first talking aboutSouthern rock, though, I told
you some of its bluesy, some of more country.
That's definitely I think they got a more country sound and
then the next one's going to be a little bit more rock sound.
But also the last song we're going to play was written by
this group. They did a this guy did a remix
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of one of their songs. So this was a little preview of
the remix. Yeah.
OK. I like that.
That was a good one, though. Marshall Tucker Band.
That was like, first seeing whatthe genre was for this week.
Southern rock. I thought they were all going to
sound like. Yeah, I thought they were all
going to be blue grassy. Yeehaw.
Lot of banjo. I know.
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I don't know if there's a banjo in here.
But I don't know if I would consider that.
But anyway, they still tour. I was looking, they still tour,
but nobody's in this, no original members.
So like, why are you touring? Wait, what?
Yeah, they're touring. But there's no original members.
That's like sometimes you'll seethat the spinners or or some of
those other older groups and it's like they would be dead.
(21:30):
And here they show photos and they're like 30.
It's like, OK, well, yeah. That was like, I, I followed
this juggler on Instagram. He's a, a very famous juggler.
Why I'm getting there. I'm getting to the point I'm a
big circus fan. I wanted to join the circus when
I was young. I had the, the unicycle rider.
I know how to juggle all that stuff.
So I followed this juggler and he, he does his act where he's
(21:52):
juggling axes. He's got, he's got a couple axes
and, and he starts off by sayingthis axe, he's got a very
important axe, very historic axe.
He said this is the axe that George Washington used to chop
down the Cherry Tree outside of his house, right?
You know the how that saying goes?
Yes, he chopped down the Cherry Tree.
He's got. He's got the axe.
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Says it's a very old axe. So we had to replace the handle
and the head of the axe. OK.
That's what that made. Me think of terrible, that was
not terrible. That is a great story.
I hope he has a better. Delivery.
When he says it, he does. He's he's.
Much funnier than I am, but you know, my wife taught herself.
How to ride a unicycle that is impressive?
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That is impressive. And I I did through a series of
YouTube videos and my dad knows how to do it.
So that was part of it like. Father like son, something like
that. Yeah.
All right. What's the next one?
All right, the next one's. Called Blackfoot and it's called
Train Train and the girl I datedin high school who was the big
Ozzy fan, by the way, RIP Ozzy. That just happened.
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Very sad for that, but she had this album and it's a whole
different thing. But what's really fun about this
one is it starts off with harmonica.
And he's there. Imitating a train horn with her
and then it goes right into thismore Hard Rock, but then it's
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still got that country, country southern rock sound so.
Yeah, I at one point wanted to learn how to play the harmonica.
I have a lot of weird interests and talents, in case you haven't
figured that out. A lot of weird and, you know,
things that I want to learn how to do.
I'm always trying to better myself.
I want to learn how to do thingsand those are a lot of first
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things to do. I was one of the first.
Thank you for that. That was one of the first things
I learned how to do was sound like a train on the harmonica.
All this guy's a little better at it than I am, though.
So this. Is train.
Train by Blackfoot on the vinyl curriculum.
Choo Choo. Little.
(24:06):
Train, train action. That was more my.
Speed, I think that kind of harder rock, yeah.
Less country. I think I'd have to give that.
Another AI can't even lie. Why would you think about?
It I don't know why I would want.
To lie, I can't lie. That was good.
(24:27):
That was good. It's the lore.
Of the harmonica called you I, Idon't even think it's.
Just that though, I think it's there's a heavy guitar and I
think I like that like a harder rock rock'n'roll where you're
like, you know, you can, you know, move your but like not
necessarily like Hard Rock head banging, but like, you know,
kind of kind of move to the music a little bit They.
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They're from Jacksonville and they, their name, they were
called something else, but then they change their name to
Blackfoot, like the Native American tribe, because most of
them have Native American heritage.
That's where they got that. I didn't know that.
I've heard of Blackfoot though. Yeah, there.
There was another highway song was another one that they did.
(25:13):
I think it's on that same album.What I've noticed is I'm
listening to this. These songs are about men who
are in love with women, but thenthey got to go or I'm in love
with this woman, but I'm leavingtown like it's where are they
going? They're on the road, they're.
Travelling. And.
He says that woman I'm in love with has to go.
Like what? Life of a rock star.
(25:35):
I guess that is their you know, that's kind of the the old
cliche, right that it's just that's just you know, well,
that's what you're on the road all the time.
I saw an interview with. Greg Allman and he was talking
to Dan Rather, I think, and he said, you know, what happened
between you and Cher, It wasn't that long of a marriage.
He said I have a tendency of marry women and then they want
(25:58):
to change me. And he said I'm not going to
change. Yeah.
And then obviously he's. Seven times someone they kept
trying. Well, that's not always the.
Case though because you look at Ozzy yeah I mean Sharon I think
ruled Ozzy, you know had a had apretty tight grip on him and try
to control him at least a littlebit as to her best of her
ability and you know did a lot of good things for him like
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sound to rehab and did all that stuff and you know probably was
the reason that he was around aslong as he was and made a lot of
money and absolutely made a lot of money and you know I guess
the first time I was introduced to Sharon was when she was a
judge on America's Got Talent. I used to watch that show
religiously and that was like the first year when she was on
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it. It was David Hasselhoff was
stop. It Knight Rider.
Yeah, he was a singer too, you know, he's very popular in
Europe. What?
Yes, Google it. It's crazy.
They like love him over there. The Hoff.
I don't know if they call him the Hoff.
He was also in the SpongeBob. Movie.
I'm pretty sure that what that'swhat they call him, right?
I don't know. I don't.
You know another when I listen that song too.
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The the do you. Remember Greece, did you?
See the movie Greece We're born to hand jive.
You know, they're doing that dance.
That's that's what that sounded like.
Yeah. I think Greece people stole that
from. Blackfoot, is that what you?
(27:26):
Think all. Right, so.
We kind of done the 70s versionsof I Can't Even Think now,
Southern Rock Southern. Rock.
Now we're going into. The 80s and it becomes a little
bit more poppy. And so this is 38 Special.
I'm sure you've heard this one because they did.
They would do MTV Video. Oh yeah.
(27:46):
But very. Still Southern rock, but very
successful, yeah. This is this is one of the more
popular songs, I think that's still played on the radio.
Yeah. This is a little song called
Hold On Loosely by 38 Special, not to be confused with 37
Special. That's a different brand.
We'll talk to it. We'll talk.
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We don't want to lose control here on the vinyl curriculum.
I'm just 38 Special another top tier addition to the Southern
Rock playlist for this week in this week's class that we're
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listening to. So what do you?
Think of that one gonna be another solid A.
These are top tier. Choices.
Well, they are. They're the best of the best in
my in my mind. Yeah.
So the guy who started what Co founded this Donnie Van Zandt
was the brother of Ronnie and Johnny, who are Lynyrd Skynyrd.
(28:55):
Oh. Ronald.
Ronald Leonard. Leonard.
Skynyrd was were brothers. There's a.
Donnie, a Ronnie and a Johnny. Wow, that's really creative with
the. Names.
That's crazy. OK, well, they're all.
I mean, they're all. I've heard of that.
They're all rhyming. They all start with the same
letter. See that too?
Yeah, they're from. Jacksonville, see, a lot of
people are from that area, from Florida, yeah, that's not.
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An area that I would associate Rock'n'roll with.
Like this kind of rock. I don't know what I I.
Would guess I would just like The Beach Boys or something.
I don't know what I'd associate with Florida, but The Beach
Boys, well, are California OK? You know, hot weather, humid.
No. Basically the.
(29:36):
Same but. You know, Northern.
Florida, like Jacksonville is like Georgia.
I mean, it's the Panhandle is very southern.
It's not right, Right, Right. So so that song.
Was Co written by the the guy from Survivor.
You know, the eye of the tiger. And please don't start singing
that. Oh yeah.
I do know that song. Of course you know it because
it's. Rocky.
You probably love Rocky. I do love Rocky.
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How did you know that? Because you like.
Stuff like that. You know what that's.
Another one I wasn't impressed with.
I thought Adrian was a terrible actress.
Adrian. Hey, Adrian.
See my my sly My sly impression isn't bad.
(30:18):
I think it I. Think it's very bad, actually.
Adrian got to feed my turtle. Yeah.
Is that a reference from. See, I don't even know.
Is that a reference? Yeah, he has a turtle.
See, I don't even remember that.OK, See, you're.
You're killing me with pop culture references.
I didn't like it for whatever reason.
Oh gosh. OK, well, what's the next song
(30:39):
that we've been working with here?
This is another one that. Was a pretty popular hit.
Main number 2. The single did and they they
kind of came in with the MTV era.
This is 89. So this is a little bit later or
86. MTV was going strong.
Keep your hands to yourself by the Georgia satellites.
Keep your hands to. Yourself.
(30:59):
That's a good rule for all people.
I feel like. I think you're going to know
this one too. OK, This is by the Georgia
satellites. Wouldn't know if you told.
If you just told me Georgia satellites, I wouldn't know who
that is. Well, see what you think.
You know this is keep your. Hands to yourself on the vinyl
curriculum. I do know that one.
(31:32):
I thought you would. That's a popular one as well.
I feel like this week out of allof the weeks has had more hits,
hits and well known songs. I your MO lately has been kind
of B sides and lesser known songs but there was more well
(31:53):
known ones here I didn't know how.
Much you would know. I'm a smart.
Person OK, thanks to your dad. Well, your dad introduced you to
some of these, but that's great.Yeah.
I mean I. Think I could probably count
1234. I hope you can.
Count. 567. 7-8 of. These at least that I know.
(32:17):
OK, so you're, you're a southern.
Rocker. I think so.
You didn't know it. Yeah.
Let me get my Leonard. Skynyrd T-shirt out.
I'd I'd say another a Oh my goodness, this is like.
An A stop. The presses.
Stop the press like my last report.
Card. Lot of A's.
Lot of A's on there. Not if you're in my class they.
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Wouldn't have been. OK, so they they.
I guess that was the only reallyone I remembered.
So I looked to see what happenedto him and they tried to stay
together, but they were fightingwithin each other and it just
kind of, well, then he went, theone guy went on his own and
there wasn't much to it, the satellites.
I like to be alone in space. The satellites don't fly in
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packs, they all fly by themselves.
So, you know, that's a good point.
Logan. Yeah, once in a while.
I have some of those now. Remember the other?
Day one of the things we're talking about how I would play
music at the bowling alley. You talk about quite.
Quite frequently about playing music of the bowling alley.
Actually this one when this. Came out I would play this one
and it was a huge hit. This whole album is good.
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Okay, The Black Crows. Have you heard of the I haven't
heard of the Black Crows. Yeah.
Hard to handle. Hard to handle, okay.
And what's the deal with this song?
This was early 70s, late 70s. This is 90. 90 we're now getting
into. Yeah, we're advancing.
Yep. The last one was 86.
This is 90. Like I said, this is when I was
working at the bowling alley. We've been going in
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chronological order, kind of. Yeah.
OK, So we see the evolution of Southern rock.
Yeah. OK.
And is this more rock'n'roll? Is this more country?
What is this more rock? And it's more pop.
I mean, I feel like. They were wanting hits.
All right, well, let's. Give it a listen.
This is the black crows hard to handle and then another
impartial grade right after this.
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Hard to handle are. You do you think I'm hard to
handle during this show? Yeah, I do.
Not. This show though, the grades
have all been really good. This is another good one,
another one that I've heard before, and another a see
that's. Troubling though, because now it
used to was dance, but now if you know it then you're going
(34:39):
to. That's not entirely accurate.
That is not entirely accurate, though I wouldn't say it is.
These are all high energy songs.Melissa wasn't.
Well, it was your mother's name,and that was that was an A
minus. But you told me that I need to
evolve my grading and be more impartial.
You know, yeah. That was actually a remake of an
(35:02):
Otis Redding song. You remember Otis Redding?
I've. I think so. 1960. 8 And that was
like Dock of the Bay. You know the Michael.
Michael Bolton recorded that oneis a thing.
But anyway, that was. Gritty.
Kind of. Retro fun.
That one's good. I I listened to it the other
(35:22):
day. Hadn't it's been a while, I
still enjoyed it. That one is also.
Still played quite frequently onthe radio, so I've I would
consider that a hit of the time.Yeah, that was big.
It went. #4 the album did the song was only 26 but really see
I, I'm. So bad with rating how high an
(35:43):
album charted, I would have thought that that based on how
much they play it now, I would have thought that would have
charted a lot higher than it actually did.
But you never know what it. Was what was it going up
against? That's true.
And I don't know like what was? It going up.
What else came out this year? I did 90.
I mean that I'm sure Prince and Madonna and George Michael, and
(36:04):
I'm just throwing names to people out the, you know, the
pop stuff and stuff like this, though, you think about it, if
it's a rock, rock album, people are going to buy the album and
they're less likely to buy the single.
That's true. You know, but was this, this was
part of an album though, wasn't it?
Yeah. And I'm trying to.
Think of what that other one wasthat was a big hit for them.
For. For the black crows, yeah, I
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don't know, but you'll know it. Yeah, I don't.
Know I'm looking at some of these ones for billboard year
end Hot 100 singles of 1990 holdon by Wilson Phillips never
heard of him oh. Her.
Her. Him.
Her. Them.
Alright, you did you see? Bridesmaids, no.
OK, is that a movie? Oh my God, you.
Haven't seen Bridesmaids? You're going to sit here and
(36:47):
watch Rocky and Forrest Gump, but you're not going to watch
Bridesmaids, correct? Yeah, you've.
Got to watch the. Your homework student Logan for
the next week is to watch Bridesmaids.
The most funny? The most hilarious?
Anyway, I loved it. OK, twice as hard.
This is some of the songs she talks to.
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Angels I think was a hit, a single.
I'm trying to think. I don't know.
I know some of these because I had the album, but I they had at
least three singles from that album.
OK, it's. Good.
Sure. All right.
Well, all right. Another A Wow.
Just got time for a couple. More songs here.
The next one, Midnight in Harlem.
(37:29):
This is now. We're getting in 2011 and whoa,
I'm trying to find a female singer for a southern rock band
in it. I was having a hard time and
when I was I found a list of southern art and I knew this
song because I just happened to have it on my liked Spotify
stuff. It's called the Tedeschi Trucks
(37:51):
Band Tedeschi or Tedeschi Tedeschi SCHI.
I feel like it's a she sound when I looked it up it.
Said TH-DES-K EE OK. Tedeschi.
Sure, Tedeschi. Yeah.
I don't know. All right, we'll have to ask.
(38:12):
Her Sure, we'll get her on next week.
This one is Midnight in Harlem by the Tedeschi Trucks Band,
here on the vinyl curriculum. Let's give it a listen.
The Tabaski Trucks Band here on the vinyl curriculum that was a
(38:33):
little slower. I was that we took a step down
there and your mother's name is not.
Tedeski So no, I only can imagine this is going to be B
minus. That's what I thought.
You're predictable. Susan Tedeski and Derek Trucks.
That's where the name comes from, and he thought it was a
brand name. Of 18 Wheelers, Derek Trucks
was. In The Allman Brothers band
(38:54):
later on though, like, you know how they just kind of stuck
around sound? I don't know, I always like that
song. She sounds like Bonnie Raitt to
me. It's a little little.
Too slow for my liking, but but this is going to cheer.
You up, I warned. I told you I like to end on
positive upbeat. This is Remember I told you
there was a song from the The Marshall Tucker Tucker Band
wrote recorded in 74. This guy, the Marcus King Band
(39:19):
redid it in 2019. This old cowboy, this old OOLE.
Apostrophe not. Old that, that's a very southern
thing, right? No, he's actually OL.
Apostrophe. There's not even E on it.
Yeah, this. Old Cowboy by the Marcus King
Band and this whole round out our our here on the vinyl
(39:39):
curriculum. Thanks so much for listening.
I'm having a great time. This is a great episode.
Let's take a listen. This old.
Cowboy. This little cowboy doesn't.
Know how he feels about that song?
(40:00):
Stop it. I think you're just getting.
Southern rock fatigue? Maybe.
Maybe. But that's just not, that's not
a heart like Hard Rock enough for me.
You didn't listen to it enough because.
This is a great song, so go backand listen to the playlist.
But the guitar work and everything, he's this guy's like
amazing with it. All right, give me a grade.
(40:20):
There's got to be another B. Minus oh God.
So you were doing. So well.
And then reality hit, I guess. But it's just like.
There's such a. Variety in the genre as well.
Yep. You know, And that's got to be
taking into account for the grade for the whole episode.
(40:42):
Now, we had a lot of A's. We had a lot of A's for Southern
Rock. So it has to be A at.
Least an A I'm just telling you right now.
I know I I. Think we're going to go, we're
going to go high a -, a high a minus.
So you know what is that if it'sgot to be a 93%, maybe 90?
(41:05):
292 1/2. Percent, we'll call it.
Like I said, I if you. Were my student.
Normally I round up if I like the students, but I would not
round yourself. Let me.
Tell you something though, I'm going to.
Be very honest, Southern rock isnot my thing I don't care for
for the most part. I do like all these songs OK but
I would not go listen except. For maybe the black.
(41:26):
The Black Crows, I don't just listen to the albums because
it's not my thing. But you're an album.
Listener, like, I don't ever go and say I'm going to listen to
this whole album. I do typically.
Never do that. I do.
But that's what we're trying to get you to do because there's a
lot of good songs. It's just Southern rock.
I don't know if I'm from Mississippi.
It just wasn't my thing back then.
I like certain songs like like Iplayed here.
(41:48):
But it like, if you're going to say here's a genre, go listen to
it. I would not pick Southern rock.
OK. That's just a personal.
Preference. But see how I can still have a
preference and still come up with songs of that care.
OK, well you have to give. Me a grade now for my grading.
I'm proud of you. You, you're.
You're fading at the end, but you started off so high that I
(42:10):
got to give you an A, yes. I think that I don't remember
what I got last week and we didn't grade last week though.
No, I would have given you. AF because you were so out of In
Touch with reality liking some of those terrible songs.
No, no, no. I.
Really was not. I had AI, had a great time last
week. I had a great time this week.
Hopefully you did as well. Again, we've got the phone
(42:30):
number 815-733-8517. Feel free to text us at any
point when you're listening or give us a call.
Leave us a message. You might hear yourself on air
next week. This was Southern rock here on
the vinyl curriculum. Another great episode.
I had a fun time. Hopefully you did as well, Jim.
I did with some of my high quality grading.
(42:51):
Yes, high quality, non bias at all grading.
I don't know about that. But you know, that's a whole
another conversation. All right.
Well, thanks for. Another fantastic week here on
the Vinyl curriculum and we willcatch you on the next one.
Bye.
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