August 14, 2025 • 48 mins
This week, on episode 8 of The Vinyl Curriculum, we travel back to the early 80s. Before they were icons, these artists were just fresh faces dropping their very first albums—and wow, did they make a splash. From U2 to Madonna, Stevie Nicks to R.E.M., these records didn’t just start careers… they rewrote the rules. Hear the songs that launched legends.
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Every record tells a story. Independent labels.
I think a lot of interesting songs came out of that.
And every generation has a soundtrack.
The only hip you have in your body is made of titanium.
This is the final curriculum with Logan.
Apparently I don't know very much about anything.
Somebody calls her Tay Tay. Hey, it's Logan.
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Just a quick heads up before we get into it.
This episode was originally recorded live on WLRA radio
where we are able to play all the songs that we talked about.
Unfortunately, due to copyright restrictions, we can't include
the music here on the podcast. So anytime you hear this sound,
that means we're skipping over asong that we originally played
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on air. But don't worry, Jim's put
together a playlist with all thetracks from the episode.
So you can still follow along. Just check the link in the shown
ups. All right, now on to the
episode. All right, welcome back to
another episode of the Vinyl Curriculum.
Logan and Jim here in the podcast studio today because we
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are pre recording this wonderfulepisode of the Vinyl Curriculum.
Jim, how we doing today? Great.
Great. Yeah, Super, super wonderful.
Excellent. It's nice and chilly in this
room. I feel I'm not sweating.
It's good. I'm glad you're not sweating.
That'd be. Bad.
I sweat a lot. Well, I don't so, but today
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we've got a a great show for you.
It's early 80s is the topic for today's class, right Jim?
Yeah, but this is, you know, last week we did a lot of songs,
like individual songs. I want to go back to albums and
entire albums, and these were all debut albums from the early
80s, so I have a feeling you're going to know a lot of these
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groups. I just don't know if you know
some of their first. Songs.
Yeah, No, I don't think I do. I've been looking at the the
list over here and you're right,a lot of the artists do ring a
bell, but the songs, not so much.
So this should be interesting for both of us, I think.
Yeah, and I think just about every one of these I had and I
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loved so it, You know, sometimeswhen you have an artist you like
and you go back and listen to some of their first stuff, it's
not so great. And they kind of got better as
time went on. These, I think all started off
with a bang. OK, well, that's good.
You know, I like starting off with a bang just to remind the
people how this works. Jim has brought a playlist to my
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attention this week, and we're going to go through it together.
Jim's going to give us some information about each of the
songs. We're going to listen to part of
the songs here on a podcast. And then I will assign it a
grade, an impartial grade and that and.
So you say. So I say, and then at the end of
the episode, I will assign a grade for the entire class, the
entire genre that we listen to on the show today.
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And then Jim will return the favor and grade migrating.
So be sure to stay tuned till the end of the show.
We are, by the way, for the vinyl curriculum on Apple
podcast, Spotify, pretty much wherever you get your podcast
that you can listen to us. So be sure to click that follow
button as well. And what is the first song, Jim?
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The first song is from U2, so obviously you know who they are.
Yes, Their first album was called Boy from 1980 I think and
it's called I Will Follow. I will follow.
OK. And anything in particular about
this song? I read something interesting.
Obviously, this is from their very first album, but this is
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the only song that YouTube has played every tour they've ever
done. Oh, but if you think about it,
it had to be what? Something off this album because
this is their first album concerts, you know?
But this is the only song that they have played on every
concert tour they've ever done. OK, well as you say, we like to
start off with a bang here, so I'm hoping that we can say the
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same thing about this U2 song. Looking forward to it.
Let's take a listen here on the vinyl curriculum.
I will follow. What are you following, Jim?
I follow a lot of people on Instagram on.
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Instagram, I don't know, I remember I'm old.
I do Facebook more than I do Instagram.
Nerd alert. Hey, that's where my, that's
where my people. Are sure.
OK, that was pretty good. I like that you didn't.
Know that one? I did not know and thinking
about it, if you like just talking about U2, I don't know
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if I could just pull out AU2 song and and tell you what it is
like if I heard AU two song. I mean, maybe some of the like
big hits, but I don't know like that's kind of crazy for me out
U. 2 has been around for so longI can't even imagine not knowing
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a bunch of staple songs with or without you.
Yeah, I know that one. With or without you.
It's a beautiful day. I still.
Haven't found what I'm looking for.
Yeah, Sunday, Bloody Sunday. I guess now that I'm seeing the
list, I do know a lot of these. Yeah, so been.
Around a long time and I actually just listened to Bono.
Bono Vox is what he goes by, butBono is had a book out called
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Surrender, I think. And I did the audio book and it
was nice because he released like a separate stripped down
album to go with his book. And so he would sing these songs
that kind of had to do with the story in his life.
It's pretty interesting. With like the book?
The audio book, you know, but then he would have these he he
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would be talking about somethingand then he would start singing
a song. It'd be like this acoustic
version that he recorded. It's pretty interesting and I
guess if you read the book you're just out of luck, so.
Well, have you ever seen this islike totally off topic and I
know we still have to assign a grade, but have you seen like
dark side of the moon is supposed to like that album is
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supposed to sync up with the theWizard of Oz?
Have you ever seen that? No, I I think I believe that's
the correct album I'm getting. I know I'm just.
Trying to say this like the whole movie.
Yeah, like it syncs up with beats in the movie and like if
you start the album and the movie at the at the same time,
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then it like. Oh, that's bizarre.
I might look that up. Yeah, I think I believe yeah.
The theory that Pink Floyd's dark side of the moon that came
out in 1973 is intentionally synchronized with the 1939 film
Wizard of Oz is a popular fan theory knowing it's known as the
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dark side of the rainbow that. Doesn't make sense.
Like when the like, I know that album well and I'm just trying
to think, OK, what's going on when money is playing and then
what's going on when that Lady is doing all those sounds that
she does, if you know what I'm talking.
About. Yeah, well.
I don't know. You shouldn't try that out, but
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in in terms of I will follow back to the topic of, you know,
I used to do that all the time. I get the teachers way off topic
talking about. I kind of did that too.
Randomness I say B plus I I. That was a solid start.
It wasn't my all time favorite song, but it was still pretty
good. It's not a dance song, I'll give
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you that. No, that's OK though.
So that was I will follow. Next up is some Depeche Mode.
Remember Depeche Mode, right? Yeah, not Depeche Mode.
Now and what did they you one ofyour favorite songs?
Now these new favorite songs waswhat?
Oh. People are people.
Yeah, people are people. Yes, Thank you.
I could you put me on the spot there.
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I couldn't remember. So this is this is their first
album and I'm going to be honest, I didn't have this
album. Remember I had the K Tail the
Beat album that I was telling you about, and it had Depeche
Mode on there and it had other people as well.
But I fell in love with this song.
So later on I got this album, but I didn't have it out when it
came. OK.
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And wanted to come out. This is 81 I think.
Let me double check. 8/19/81. Yeah, they, yeah.
And the U2 was 80. That was 10th grade.
This is 11th grade. And that was a full adult
lifetime before me. That was 18 years before I was
born. I was 90. 8 I don't know if that
had to be said out loud, but it's OK.
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I find it important to point that out as much as possible.
This is. Dreaming of me though and I
just. I just love this song.
All right, well, dreaming of me in Depeche Mode.
Depeche Mode's still tours too, right?
We shouldn't. They're still out there.
We should see if we can try and see them.
This is already off to a little bit of a weird start, but let's
take a listen. Then another impartial grade
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right after this. Do you dream of me, Jim?
I do not. Do you dream about doing?
Do not. I might have a nightmare once in
a while, but no, I do not. Some Depeche Mode.
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Yeah, that's like synthpop early, early, you know, their
sound kind of evolved, but that's kind of their that's that
was a lot of the songs that werecoming out.
Just started it. This is like at 81.
And then it went on into my college years.
You know, we did some of those in a previous episode, but that
fun, electronic upbeat, you could dance to it.
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Get the Casio piano out, start playing some of that.
Yeah, spike your hair up. Yeah, with some Elmer's glue.
I don't know about that. That's what they do.
That's how you get those like tall Mohawks.
You never. Back in maybe?
No, they still have that stuff now.
No. Well, Elmer's glue is washable.
Oh. See, I'm teaching you things.
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Yeah, I had a Mohawk, but it wasn't spiky.
Yeah, I still don't believe that, so we'll have to work on
that, but you don't have to. Dreaming of me.
Depeche Mode. I think we're just going to go
silent. B, It's little.
It's. OK, I can tell you're in a bad.
Mood, aren't you well? I think you are.
Something's going. On I don't know.
I don't know. So your Gray is going to really
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suck this time. I'm just telling you right now
because you are not coming in with a positive attitude and you
need to refresh. Take a deep breath, enjoy the
moment. Gosh, this is.
Great music you're being exposedto.
Yeah, something like that. Yeah.
Well, Depeche Mode, I do have toadmit, last time when we heard
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people are people, I did add that song to my playlist.
So I I think I consider myself apretty big Depeche Mode fan, so.
OK, but this is like I said, this is their first album.
You think about it, what was Taylor's first album like?
I don't know. It was country, but you it
people evolve. And so this was their first go
at it and I think that that's a great result.
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Yeah, you definitely see the roots of like some of their
later songs, like people are people, 'cause it, it just kind
of it vibes, you know, it vibes.But yeah, Salad B for Depeche
Mode. Next up, another strong artist,
Stevie Nicks. Now this, this album, this is
Stevie Nicks, who was from Fleetwood Mac and that she'd
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been around a while, but she went solo, right?
Had a lot of hits. Stop dragging my heart around.
You know that one, right? I probably would if I heard.
It with Tom Petty. Sometimes with with names of
songs. I don't do well with names of
she. Also did leather and lace with
Don Henley from the Eagles. Oh boy, it had.
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Think about it was a hit. Edge of 17 was the biggest hit,
just like the wide wing does. Sing a song.
That was on there, but I didn't want to.
All right, he's waking up. So I didn't want to play any of
those songs because there was a several hits on there.
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I think there were like, stop dragging my heart around with #3
Leather and Lace was #6 Edges 17was #7 This is the first song on
the album just called Belladonna.
It's what it's named after. I just like it.
Slow down, though. It's not going to.
You're going to dance to this one.
Well, that's OK, we don't have to dance to every.
I don't know. I just, I like to dance.
I don't know what to tell you. OK, just say what you think of
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Belladonna. All right, let's take a listen
here until a little Stevie Nicksaction.
So you said this was the first song on the album?
First of all, yeah, you know, she didn't start off with
upbeat. That was it.
Interesting. That is very like floating in
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the pool kind of vibe, you know what I mean?
The album went number one. Well, I mean, you think I don't?
Know if it was because of this? Well, no.
She, like I said, she had this again, I'm going to remind you
when you listen to an album, they're not all hits there.
Everything's not going to be a single.
Although some like, that's for sure Thriller or something like
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that. Almost everyone is a hit.
But you know, you listen to the album and there's these gems
that you find. You're like, oh, I really like
that song. You're not going to hear on the
radio, but that doesn't mean it's still not a great song.
Yeah, I don't know if that's thecase here, though.
I think we got to go C plus. Oh, gosh, I know, I know.
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I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm sorry, Stevie.
I'm sorry, Stevie. I know.
Stevie's listening. She would be so disappointed
right now. And I apologize, I'm just, I
don't know, not not feeling thatvibe right now.
That's OK. Well, next, all right, then what
you need to go is listen to Edgeof 17 or something a little bit
more upbeat. But see, I'm trying to.
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I thought you would have known. Well, you did.
You knew all these other songs. So I'm trying to let you know
there's some other good songs onthat album.
All right. Now, I don't know if you've ever
heard of Yaz or Yazoo. I've heard of Yaz.
I'm I'm pretty sure I've heard of Yaz.
Yazoo, I think is what they are called in England and for some
reason they had to overhear. They call them Yaz.
It might be a licensing thing orsomebody else had that name, I
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don't know. What, what?
What are their hits then? What is a well known song that I
would know about? Yeah.
They this is only an album or two.
I think it was I had the album. I think don't go.
Let me look and see only you. Only you maybe?
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OK, I googled it and I did not get the band.
I think it was only you and thenmaybe Situation was like a dance
hit. Maybe.
Is that on this album or is thaton the next one?
That might be on the next one. No, it was on this one.
Yeah, 1982, Yeah, upstairs at Eric's.
Yeah, I mean it. I think they were bigger in in
Europe. They're another synth pop duo
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and for some reason is Yaz here,is Yazoo there?
This the situation was like top 73, so it's not like this was a
huge success here, but it's still a good album.
It's upbeat, so if you like dance music, this this might do
it for you. We'll see.
And this song is called what 2? Pieces.
This is called 2 pieces TOO. TOO pieces.
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Yeah, Don't Go and Only You werethe two bigger songs on this
one, but I always like this. Also like this one.
OK, and why is it TOO and not TWO?
You'll have to ask her. Allison Moyet is her name.
Can you spell that for me? MOYETI think.
I don't know about that. It is.
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I had her solo album too All. Right.
Well, let's take a listen to a little Yaz right here on the
vinyl curriculum. She's got an interesting voice.
Very low. Very low and you said this is
she doesn't sing anymore after this point.
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On that song, yeah, that's it. And it's just the dance beat,
you know? That must be the life of being
like a singer and you'd be like,I'm only going to sing for half
the song. I'm done.
Like I don't no more words. We're just going to press the
loop button on the on the machine and let it play for the
rest of the time I. Have nothing else to say, yeah.
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Or should go into the bathroom or something real quick.
That was a little better. I'll give that.
I'll give that a solid B plus I think.
I think you would know. I think you would know.
Don't go. I probably would, yeah.
I just. I also don't appreciate.
I mean, I know we were just joking about it, but we're only
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singing for half the song like Ifeel.
Like, but it's again, it is on the album.
This was not a single. They would have not done that if
it was a single that they were going to release.
Just like the Cure will play fortwo or three minutes
instrumental, then they'll do a little singing and they'll do
instrumental. When you did Southern rock,
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there were some of those were really like Free Bird.
They're really long of guitar solos and jam parts, though it's
not necessarily made to be played on the radio.
This is they're an artist and they're trying to give you the,
you know, what they want to wantyou to hear.
And sometimes it's just the music aspect of it.
Is this before radio? When did radio become big?
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I don't even know. Are you kidding me right now?
When I mean, was radio invented when you were a kid?
Stop it. I don't.
Radio was like in they listen toradio dramas they like in the
20s and the 30s and that's you'dsit around the radio.
That's all you had way before. TV campfire chats or fire signs
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chats. With people, People are thinking
horrible things about you right now.
You. That's terrible, Logan.
No, no, no, no. I disagree.
I disagree. People, young people don't know
when things were invented. That's OK.
That's OK. I'm OK.
Not now. I'm sure it was.
Over 100 years ago and I'm not that old.
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Glad you clarified that because sometimes I wonder.
Not that, not that old. All right, all right.
The next one is in excess. You've heard of them?
Right, I have heard of in excess.
This is probably one of my favorite songs.
Don't change. OK, this album is not my
favorite. Like I said it was their first
one. I think they got better and they
got had a lot more hits down theroad, but this was a a decent
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hit for them. I'm trying to think they also
did the one thing and then don'tchange.
The ones thing was a little bit more successful, but Don't
change is my favorite. OK.
And what again? What are the hits from the I?
I'm blanking on some of the hitsfrom NXS.
It was listened like Thieves wasthe name of their album and it
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was the next one I'm pretty sure.
This one, though, was shabu. Shabu shabu.
I think shabu, shabu, Yeah, listen like.
No shabu shabba. Shabu shabba I.
Think so? I don't know.
This time, Listen Like Thieves was on the next album.
All right, well, let's take a listen to this one and then
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we'll give another impartial grade.
You know, I don't change for anybody, Jim.
I'm not. I'm certainly not changing for
you. I don't want you to change for
me, Logan. Really.
Because it it seems like you do every, every time we do this,
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you always criticize migrating and I'm tired of it, OK.
Then you need to change. But if you don't like to change
then just keep it up. All right, well, that was in
excess, which I, I knew in excess, but I, that was before I
knew how to spell their name. Oh.
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So I would say in excess and then I saw I was like, I don't
know who INXS is. That's a weird name.
That's that's a little better though a little bit more upbeat.
I think I like the the harder rock.
Like you have a little bit more guitar in that song.
You have a little bit stronger of a beat, a strong vocal rock
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presence. You have a strong drum beat, a
-, a minus for in excess. That's another one of those.
College. So when I think of that song, I
think of college. I think it came out like maybe
my junior year or maybe it was my senior year of high school.
But again, when you go to the frat parties, the bands would
play a lot of these songs. Yeah, because that was back in
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the band days, right when they didn't have the.
Now they just have DJs. I don't know what they have now,
but I mean, that was a big thing.
I'm telling you what they have now.
They have DJs now. Some bars though would have
bands and some would have DJs and.
I had friends who preferred going to the live music and I
had friends who preferred going to the the DJ so.
Yeah, I don't think there's too many live bands at parties
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anymore, but what do I know, I'mjust me.
You're starting to get old too. So you're not one of them.
An old man? Yeah, you're not one of them
anymore. I left my wheelchair in the car.
All right, well, got another good one for you here.
Desperate, but not serious. No, not serious.
This this guy named Adam Ant Adam like the insect yes OK used
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to be an Adam and the ants. They had a couple of albums and
then they split up and then thiswas his first solo adventure and
I think you on this album was goody 2 shoes.
Like goody 2 bamboo like that one or no no, that's tutti
fruity. No.
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OK, What? What Baba do Baba Wap Bamboo.
Tutti frutti no that's has absolutely nothing to do with
goody 2 shoes. Well, I mean, that's close.
Right. The thing I like about Adam Ant
is is I think he has two drummers or something.
There's something's gone every time they have a beat.
It's got this crazy beat in the background that I just love.
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OK, I'll. Google that and see if he has
two drummers. OK, well, I'll take a listen to
that Adam, Ant, not not to be confused with Ant Adam.
I don't know where I was going with that I.
Don't either. No Adam Ant and formerly of Adam
and the ants. OK, so then he consumed his.
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Isn't that what ants do? They don't, they eat each other?
I don't know. I don't know.
I have no idea. It's not a biology class.
I don't know well. Desperate, but not serious.
We're not serious here on the vinyl curriculum.
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I don't know if I'm hearing multiple drums.
Well, this is a slower one. Friend or foe play friend or foe
real quick. Friend or foe?
Yeah, it's on that same album, the first song.
OK, give me a second. I got to pull it up.
What is going on? It's not the first song.
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Here we go. This is Friend or Foe by.
Adam, Ant and let's. Fix the kick in.
It's kind of like a you just mentioned it like a surfboard
vibe. My.
Own kind of, but. It's like a James Bond.
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It's got a Western. Sound like, I don't know, I feel
like the guitar sounded like a little Western.
Somebody's coming on a, you know, on their horses.
I don't know. What does the guitar sound like
on a horse? Like the western just don't even
talk to me about it. What I don't know does the.
Guitar sound different when you're playing it on a horse.
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No, it's just the visual of someone coming through a horse
and you hear that. The guitar that was on that
other song. OK, well, let's see.
What we're talking about, that sounds like a bunch of drums.
I mean, or just a talented. Drummer.
Well, it could be. I don't know.
That was a little taste of friend or foe.
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Yeah, by the esteemed adamant. Goody 2 shoes was the one that
was like win #12 so you would know that one.
OK. So what did you think of that?
I thought it was OK interesting.I thought it was OK.
I I think a solid B It was it had a good beat to it.
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It wasn't like to rock and rolly, as we established earlier
that I like, but that's OK. It was a it was a different vibe
that was kind of. 80s sounding with it had the synth and it had
the, you know, 80s kind of vibe to it.
But yeah, I think Solid B is where it's at for.
(25:01):
Animant yeah. And again, I am recommending
people listen to the entire albums.
If something like, oh, that's interesting, then I would
recommend you go listen to the entire album because I feel like
most of these albums are really good start to finish.
Right. All right.
Well, that was good. We've got another good group
coming up. Right now, Violent.
The Violent Femmes. Yes, Adam Ant, by the way, was
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82 and then I think the violent films for the next year, 83.
This there's several hits on this one.
One of you know, some of them are do you know any violent film
songs? I do OK.
This is my one of my favorite songs actually, of all time.
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OK, good. So I do.
I just want to play that one because I like that song so
much. Little Violent Femmes action.
Yeah. I don't know.
I like the Violent Femmes. I don't know if I would know any
other song by them, but. You might know this one.
OK, so did someone did your mom or dad have that album?
I think my mom, my mom was a bigmusic fan.
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She would go and see a lot of like cover bands and stuff.
And from what I remember, she had a, she had a boyfriend in
high school named Leo who was a drummer in a band and they would
play that song and I think she liked that.
So I, I don't know, that's just the story I always heard.
She was actually, her cousin wasin that band too, which is why I
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think she saw them. But.
That was blistering the sun, by the way, the one who was.
Started. Yes, it was.
The the one I'm suggesting though is called KISS OFF.
Kiss off, Kiss off. And this was just part of the
same album as Poster in the Sun.Yes, it was.
Oh, OK, self-titled Violent Films album.
All right, well, let's take a listen to this, see if it's as
good. I need someone, a person to talk
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to, someone who care to love. Could it be you?
Oh. Oh, that's the violent films.
All of their songs are crazy like that.
There is. There's a lot going on there,
Jim. I bet your Mama liked it.
Maybe, I don't know. That's just the way they were.
I think there was like 3 people.They I think they had the big, I
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don't know, the stand up bass I think and just kind of raw it
sounded. Like they took like they're
like, OK, here's a bunch of darts.
We're just going to throw them at the board, like with the
musical staff on it, and these are the notes we're going to.
Play that is not even a true. Statement.
Yeah, I don't I. Thought that I love this song.
I mean, I heard the underlying. Blister in the sun, you know,
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like you said with the stand up bass, some of the some of the
guitar licks were kind of had a similar sound to it.
But that is that is not that is not.
It I don't know, gone daddy gonewas another one for that one
that I just really liked, but I don't know I liked it.
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I well don't go listen to it. See, that's the interesting
though that you'd like blister in the sun.
But again, they had the lore because your Mama liked it.
And so then you're you have an attachment to it because that
sounds very similar if you thinkabout.
It it sounds very similar, but II feel like it's more kind of
jumbled. Is that is that an accurate word
Like the it's not as clean as doesn't have as clean of a beat
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as blister in the sun it. Had a, it changed, changed
beats. Maybe that was a problem.
You didn't have it from the get go and it was I.
Don't know, I guess it just was not it.
All right, so you're giving thatan A or an A minus?
I think, I think we'll go, we'llgo.
Salad B Okay, salad. I want your homework is I want
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you to talk to your mom about that and see if she remembers
that song. She may I.
Because I'd like to know if she liked it.
That first part, that first part, the intro was a little.
It's different. It's a little different once we
got into that second section or second chorus or whatever.
I don't even know what you'd call that, the second bridge or
I don't know, parts of music, you know, parts of music I.
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Don't know what? Whatever's after the intro, I
don't know whatever part, that'sall.
Yeah, well. The meat, the meat, the
potatoes. Yeah, so that the roast beef
sandwich right there. Yeah, solid B though for the
Violent Femmes. I like it.
OK, what do you know about R.E.M.?
Name is familiar. I would probably know some of
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the songs, but I don't think I can name any of the songs off
the top of my head. This was 83, their first album.
They were from like, I think Athens, GA or something, and.
To me, this is when college music started changing and my
musical taste started changing. And I would say the violent
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films were part of that too. You know, I, I would not have
listened to that in high school,but in college friends were
playing it and bars would play it and you got to hear it and
like, oh, this is different. And then you start liking it so.
Same thing with R.E.M. This is Radio Free Europe.
This was I think their first single.
Ever. Yeah, I'm looking at their song
list here. The one that I loved, the 1 I
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loved. This one goes out to the one I
love. I know that song.
Yeah, I think he did it on on key.
But yeah, they broke up, you know, they were doing really
well and then they kind of brokeup.
Oh, you know, not I don't think it was a bad thing.
They just were, they had enough,enough money and.
This kind of broke up and I think one of them passed away,
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but Michael Stipe was the lead singer of this one.
Well, I think that just kind of happens in the music industry.
But this is R.E.M., Radio Free Europe here on the vinyl
curriculum. That one's a little bit upbeat.
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That one's not bad. That one's that bad.
It's good and. That one's off the Murmur album,
right? 83.
All right, Radio Free Europe B Plus, I think we're going to go
straight into it. This, you know, like I said, it
was 78, so it wasn't a huge hit,but then later on they just
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became very, very popular and crossed over.
And I think you'd know more R.E.M. songs than you think.
I think that's the case for a lot of these groups.
I think I'm just I'm I've never been very good with names or
being able to like call out. Oh, that's this, you know, but I
know songs, I know jams. I'm like Jack Black.
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You ever see Jack Black? He's like he did an interview.
I think he was on Conan with with.
Elton John, and he's like, you know, I don't know words, but he
knows jams. And he's like, and he was like
jamming it out to Elton John. And Elton John was like, what?
What's happening? Yeah, what is happening?
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Much like you are right now. Yeah, the thing about R.E.M., I
can't understand what they're saying.
And the nice thing about Spotifyor Apple Music, I think it'll
show you lyrics. And I was there was a song on
there. What was I listening to the
other day? And.
I'm like, what? I don't even know what he's
saying. It was laughing is the name of
the song. I'm like, what are they saying?
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And it was something totally I had no idea.
And so all this time I've been singing some make up, made-up
words that I had no idea what the real song was.
You know Apple Music now has karaoke moans so you can turn
off the words. Turns it down, turns it way
down. I think you can still.
You still kind of hear it, yeah.I mean, maybe.
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So you can go along, you know, you can know when you're.
Something like that, yeah. I don't know.
That's still a cool feature in my opinion.
So Radio Free Europe, R.E.M., we've got Madonna.
You might have heard of this next one.
Coming up, I know Madonna. Yeah, this album was, it was
amazing. If you go look at this, let me
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look at it real quick. Tell me if you know this.
Not lucky * borderline. Borderline, I know holiday
holiday probably know that. Everybody.
Everybody. Yeah, You would know most of
these songs. They're all upbeat, they're all
fun. Well, Madonna's Madonna.
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And I didn't know what she looked like.
I, you know, we, this is what, 83 or 84?
Back when there was in the StoneAge, no TV's. 83, Well, I didn't
have. MTV was out, but we didn't have
it in my small town. And so when I went to college,
we had it. And not until I saw the video
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did I realize what she looked like.
I thought she was African Americans.
She was very soulful. Yeah.
And she wasn't OK. No, she wasn't OK.
But I love this song. This is.
I think you're going to know it.Yeah, this is called Lucky Star.
And we've got time for just a couple more after this.
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You are listening to the Vinyl Curriculum podcast.
I think I thought that that was Cyndi Lauper.
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Yeah, she sounds a lot like Cyndi Lauper and some of it.
And 'cause this was one of her first albums, right?
These are all first albums, right?
OK, yeah. And.
Thank you, her voice. I don't appreciate the
condescending tone. OK.
The name of The thing is debut album, so why would you say this
is her first album right? Gosh.
OK, this is something interesting though.
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There was a song called Everybody that was the first one
released. It was released in 82 of
October. It was a dance song #3 then
Burning Up was released in Marchof 8313 on the dance club.
Then Holiday was released September of 83816.
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Borderline was released Februaryof 84 #10 and then Lucky Star
was released August of 84. Peaked at #4 That's almost two
years it was charting. That's kind of crazy.
That is crazy. That is a good.
I mean, that is. A well known song though,
because I've heard that song so.She and she had a whole look
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that every all these girls were dressed like her with the lace
in their hair and multi layered things and leggings and she
really. Kicked off the 80s revolution
wardrobe, I guess. I guess I didn't even realize
that that she was the one that kind of started.
That, well, she was the first big one I remember like that.
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The next one kind of was similar, but she was Madonna was
in a movie called Desperately Seeking Susan as an actress, and
then she didn't act for a while.Well, no, she was anyone with
Sean Penn too. I think she ended up marrying
him. But anyway, that was a great
album if you want to just. Upbeat drive in the car.
That whole album you'll like. It I like that I'm going to add
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that album to my favorites rightnow as you talk about the next
one by it, Cyndi Lauper. Yes, Cyndi Lauper, another her
album was called She's so unusual and she was so
different. But the weird thing about Cyndi
Lauper is she has a really a good voice like she does.
She does this silly, you know, girls just want to have fun kind
of stuff. But all through the night on
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this album was great. Time after time, you know that
when it was on this album, it was great.
Girls Doesn't Want to Have Fun was great.
This is Money Changes everythingand this is my favorite.
It was a video, and I remember she was flying across.
It was a concert and she was flying on a something hanging
over the crowd. You know what she was singing.
Yeah. Yeah, did you know she was AWWE
(37:01):
wrestler at one point? Well, and I remember.
She would do a a stick with one of the yeah.
And then she came back like in 2010 ish.
Yeah. And I don't follow that, so I
don't. I mean what?
I don't follow that either. What?
(37:21):
Are you talking about? I have never What about you?
What now? I bet you like it.
It's not wrestling. It's wrestling.
It's wrestling wrestling. Wrestling, it's a it's a
wonderful TV production. Thank you.
You're welcome. All right, well, let's take a
listen to Cyndi Lauper and then.Money changes everything.
I guess so, and maybe in your opinion it shouldn't though.
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Money is not everything, happiness is where it's at.
She begs to differ. Well, let's take a listen to
see. See, that doesn't even that's
not as quintessential Cyndi Lauper as the Madonna song.
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I feel like Madonna sounded morelike Cyndi Lauper than Cyndi
Lauper did right there. But.
Cyndi Lauper had slow songs she had.
Fast songs she had. I know that it's not all about
that. I'm just talking about.
That sounds just like Cyndi Lauper.
There's, if you were to ask, 100people.
Who is that? And if they knew who Cyndi
Lauper sounded like, they would,every one of them.
Well, people like you might not,but 97 of them would say, I
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think that's Cyndi. Lauper Well, I don't know about
that, but you suddenly forgot tograde.
Yeah, we got to I. Didn't hear your Madonna song?
Madonna, I think a minus for Madonna.
OK, a minus for Madonna. That was pretty good and.
Then what about? Starlight, Starlight.
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We'll go salad beef for Cyndi Lauper.
You know, she's doing her final tour right now and she would be
very disappointed if she heard this.
Final tour where he says. It was, it was last year she
came through and now she's goingto be at Tenley again.
Oh. It's a long final tour.
It's a yeah two times around theworld.
I would like to see that. I think if you want to buy me
(39:06):
tickets for my birthday or something, you can buy me
tickets to her going away tour. What?
You know, we should use the powers of the podcast, get a
media credential and go in and interview Cyndi Lauper.
You do that. I will, I will go with you and
enjoy the concert while you talkto.
Her. All right, Thank you.
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That was Cyndi Lauper. Money changes everything, even
though it shouldn't, because money is not everything.
But my take away from this is that's a good album.
Go listen. There's so many good song,
different, upbeat, slow. Emotional, silly.
She's just, she's pretty talented.
Yeah, well, before we get into the last song, do you want to
(39:49):
talk about the bonus tracks for?This Yeah, I have two songs at
on the playlist from the Violet films, and the next one's one's
from The Smiths, and they're slow and you know the Violet.
Is that why you. Didn't put them on the playlist.
Because I know you'd hate them, but it just goes to show that
when there weren't singles, but the violent films, you know,
they're this crazy punkish kind of thing and they sing a slow
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song and I just love it. OK.
And then same thing for The Smiths.
You know, The Smiths are one of my favourites with Morrissey as
Elise Singer. The Hand That Rocks for Cradle
is one of my favorite songs on that first album.
I'd like to. Hear what the Violent Femmes
sound like. It's a slow song, so I'm going
to have to listen to that. Good Feeling by the Violent
Femmes. Also the name of the album?
(40:33):
Well, this is. The podcast, it's not the radio.
Play it real quick. You might get teary eyed because
it's kind of emotional. All right, let's take a listen.
A little listen, a little preview.
This is a the bonus track for the podcast Stay With.
Me just a little longer. Oh, Logan, do you need a tissue?
(40:54):
I think he's getting teary eyed over there.
That is not accurate, not even alittle bit.
Getting ready to throw my phone across the the studio here you.
Didn't like that. No.
What? Logan, I don't think you have an
emotional side to you. I really don't.
I don't think you can go deep like that.
No, I actually don't. My parents have told me for a
long time that I have a black hole where my heart's supposed
(41:16):
to be. Why didn't I know that before we
started this podcast? I don't know.
There's no hope, is what you're.Telling me no emotions.
Your poor fiance. I wonder how to talk to her.
About this, you should. And you know what?
She'll agree with you 100%. Logan that anyway, that's good
feeling by the Violet films on that.
Does not have me feeling good, Ican tell you that.
(41:37):
Right now this one will this next one.
This is The Smiths. You know, they're one of my
favourites, this charming man ontheir first album their and it
did not chart in America becauseI don't think any of these did
on this album, but love it. It's a classic.
OK, well, this is The Smiths, the hand that rocks the cradle.
(41:58):
No, that's the oh what? The hand that locks the cradle
is the the slower one. That's the bonus.
Track gosh OK your. Grade is really tanking.
Right now you've got me confusedhere.
See, I've got the podcast or I've got the playlist open, the
Apple playlist open. That's why I'm playing these
songs. And all these songs are on here,
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which is great. You do a fantastic job.
People should go look it up right now on Apple Music and on
Spotify. Jim's got the whole playlist for
all the songs plus the bonus songs.
That's right. Would you even believe it?
And. You don't even have to pay extra
for the bonus. No, not even, not even close.
So this is the charming man, this charming man, this charming
man. It, this is an adequate
(42:39):
description of myself. This should become my new theme.
Song. Let's take a listen.
Was that a sneeze? That was a scream.
What was that? I can't do it, but I'm sure you
want to. Now you got to go.
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And who's the lead singer of TheSmiths?
Morrissey. Yes.
See, I am learning things. That was on a test last time.
You know, Jim gives me pop quizzes.
He comes into work and hands me a piece of paper, he said.
Here you go. I love this miss and I love that
album. It's different.
I mean, it's kind of, I don't know.
Aggressive. He's aggressive.
(43:25):
It's like, I don't know about aggressive.
That's not. It's not a feel good album.
No, it's not like Taylor Swift'sfolklore.
No, no, no, this is. This is pretty good though.
I'll give it an A minus. OK.
Or she would be happy. I'm happy.
He did it again. He scared me that he did it
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again. All right, so what's the take
away here, Logan? The take away is listen to the
albums and you might find hiddentreasures that you'd would never
hear on the radio, but it might be your all time favorite.
Maybe I don't know if I would have the same response to this
playlist as you these are. These are just songs that I
(44:09):
like, but I'm just saying, if some of those you thought, oh,
that's interesting. I wonder what the rest of that
album sounds like. That's what you trying to get
you in that mindset because you're missing out on so much
good stuff. Yeah, but then that's just not
how my brain thinks though, I don't think.
Oh, I like this song. I bet I'd like the rest of the
album, no? Well, that's what we're trying
to change, Logan. Should we tell him about Episode
(44:31):
10 which is a couple of away? Yes, this is episode 8, this is
episode 8 and episode 10. So that not next week, the
following week we will have we'll mix up the roles a little
bit. I will be the one creating the
playlist so you get to hear someof my favorite songs.
(44:51):
So I think every I'm I'm very anxious and excited to see what
you do like. And I think anxious at the same
time. And I think the audience is
curious as well. So it'll be interesting to know
what. Does Logan prefer I'm preparing
emotionally for for the harsh, harsh criticism that I will
(45:12):
receive? I like almost every kind of
music. I'm telling you right now, I
will not be impartial if it's a bunch of rap.
And I'll tell you right now I'm not gonna like it.
I don't. I'm not a big rap guy.
I'm not either. Just young gravy, baby.
Just young. I don't.
Even know what that means. I don't even know if I know Post
Malone. That's about it.
Yeah. All right.
Well for this episode today as agrand grade, a final grade for
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early 80s debut albums. Before you grade it though, are
you grading just the songs I played?
Are you grading the artist's initial albums?
I'm grading because obviously these are very successful
people, so more people agreed with my.
Thoughts. See, I think that's not fair
though. That's what are you, what are
(45:59):
you grading? I'm grading the songs that you
presented me here today and is. I'm not grading the albums
because I honestly think, in my humble opinion, my grade would
change if we were including the whole album.
Well, yeah, I think it would be higher.
It would because I would have played the the the ones you know
and the one you. If you know it, you're
automatically going to add a grade point to it practically.
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Well, that is entirely accurate,but that's besides the point.
OK, so a what? Early 80s debut albums, final
grade of just a straight B, Justa straight B respectable.
We had a we had AC plus wasn't my favorite, but we had a fair
amount of As as well. So yeah, you know, it's not too
(46:45):
low. And by the way, you're awful
hateful, OK, You, you have all this hate in your body.
For me, I very rarely I've only given out a handful of CS
Everything has been very generous.
I'm pushing you. I'm pushing you to do better.
I just think the worst grade yougave was Stevie Nicks.
That's just sad. That is a sad commentary.
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Well, that was just not the songto pick, I guess.
Well, if you wanted to hear Edgeof 17, you can just listen to
the radio. That grade reflects your poor
choice of music as well. It's not.
Again, not grading the albums. I'm grading your choice to
represent this music category. All right, well, and.
(47:30):
You you're just about average. We'll give you AB.
With that mindset, you're going to get AB minus Boo, and that's
also your production. Talk myself.
Talk my. Way out of a higher.
Grade it would have been AB, butsince you screwed up the
playlist and you were playing the bonus tracks and all that
stuff, no no, not going to work.So B minus.
(47:51):
It's fun though. Logan is always fun.
It always is. We're not.
There was no live show this week, but we'll hopefully be
back on Monday. You've been listening to the
final curriculum. Till next time.
We'll catch you on the next one.Bye.
Every record tells a story. Independent labels.
I think a lot of interesting songs came out of that.
And every generation has a soundtrack.
The only hip you have in your body is made of titanium.
This is the final curriculum with Logan.
Apparently I don't know very much about anything.
Somebody calls her Tay Tay. Hey, it's Logan.
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Just a quick heads up before we get into it.
This episode was originally recorded live on WLRA radio
where we are able to play all the songs that we talked about.
Unfortunately, due to copyright restrictions, we can't include
the music here on the podcast. So anytime you hear this sound,
that means we're skipping over asong that we originally played
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on air. But don't worry, Jim's put
together a playlist with all thetracks from the episode.
So you can still follow along. Just check the link in the shown
ups. All right, now on to the
episode. All right, welcome back to
another episode of the Vinyl Curriculum.
Logan and Jim here in the podcast studio today because we
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are pre recording this wonderfulepisode of the Vinyl Curriculum.
Jim, how we doing today? Great.
Great. Yeah, Super, super wonderful.
Excellent. It's nice and chilly in this
room. I feel I'm not sweating.
It's good. I'm glad you're not sweating.
That'd be. Bad.
I sweat a lot. Well, I don't so, but today
(01:25):
we've got a a great show for you.
It's early 80s is the topic for today's class, right Jim?
Yeah, but this is, you know, last week we did a lot of songs,
like individual songs. I want to go back to albums and
entire albums, and these were all debut albums from the early
80s, so I have a feeling you're going to know a lot of these
(01:46):
groups. I just don't know if you know
some of their first. Songs.
Yeah, No, I don't think I do. I've been looking at the the
list over here and you're right,a lot of the artists do ring a
bell, but the songs, not so much.
So this should be interesting for both of us, I think.
Yeah, and I think just about every one of these I had and I
(02:07):
loved so it, You know, sometimeswhen you have an artist you like
and you go back and listen to some of their first stuff, it's
not so great. And they kind of got better as
time went on. These, I think all started off
with a bang. OK, well, that's good.
You know, I like starting off with a bang just to remind the
people how this works. Jim has brought a playlist to my
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attention this week, and we're going to go through it together.
Jim's going to give us some information about each of the
songs. We're going to listen to part of
the songs here on a podcast. And then I will assign it a
grade, an impartial grade and that and.
So you say. So I say, and then at the end of
the episode, I will assign a grade for the entire class, the
entire genre that we listen to on the show today.
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And then Jim will return the favor and grade migrating.
So be sure to stay tuned till the end of the show.
We are, by the way, for the vinyl curriculum on Apple
podcast, Spotify, pretty much wherever you get your podcast
that you can listen to us. So be sure to click that follow
button as well. And what is the first song, Jim?
(03:11):
The first song is from U2, so obviously you know who they are.
Yes, Their first album was called Boy from 1980 I think and
it's called I Will Follow. I will follow.
OK. And anything in particular about
this song? I read something interesting.
Obviously, this is from their very first album, but this is
(03:32):
the only song that YouTube has played every tour they've ever
done. Oh, but if you think about it,
it had to be what? Something off this album because
this is their first album concerts, you know?
But this is the only song that they have played on every
concert tour they've ever done. OK, well as you say, we like to
start off with a bang here, so I'm hoping that we can say the
(03:54):
same thing about this U2 song. Looking forward to it.
Let's take a listen here on the vinyl curriculum.
I will follow. What are you following, Jim?
I follow a lot of people on Instagram on.
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Instagram, I don't know, I remember I'm old.
I do Facebook more than I do Instagram.
Nerd alert. Hey, that's where my, that's
where my people. Are sure.
OK, that was pretty good. I like that you didn't.
Know that one? I did not know and thinking
about it, if you like just talking about U2, I don't know
(04:39):
if I could just pull out AU2 song and and tell you what it is
like if I heard AU two song. I mean, maybe some of the like
big hits, but I don't know like that's kind of crazy for me out
U. 2 has been around for so longI can't even imagine not knowing
(05:00):
a bunch of staple songs with or without you.
Yeah, I know that one. With or without you.
It's a beautiful day. I still.
Haven't found what I'm looking for.
Yeah, Sunday, Bloody Sunday. I guess now that I'm seeing the
list, I do know a lot of these. Yeah, so been.
Around a long time and I actually just listened to Bono.
Bono Vox is what he goes by, butBono is had a book out called
(05:23):
Surrender, I think. And I did the audio book and it
was nice because he released like a separate stripped down
album to go with his book. And so he would sing these songs
that kind of had to do with the story in his life.
It's pretty interesting. With like the book?
The audio book, you know, but then he would have these he he
(05:45):
would be talking about somethingand then he would start singing
a song. It'd be like this acoustic
version that he recorded. It's pretty interesting and I
guess if you read the book you're just out of luck, so.
Well, have you ever seen this islike totally off topic and I
know we still have to assign a grade, but have you seen like
dark side of the moon is supposed to like that album is
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supposed to sync up with the theWizard of Oz?
Have you ever seen that? No, I I think I believe that's
the correct album I'm getting. I know I'm just.
Trying to say this like the whole movie.
Yeah, like it syncs up with beats in the movie and like if
you start the album and the movie at the at the same time,
(06:26):
then it like. Oh, that's bizarre.
I might look that up. Yeah, I think I believe yeah.
The theory that Pink Floyd's dark side of the moon that came
out in 1973 is intentionally synchronized with the 1939 film
Wizard of Oz is a popular fan theory knowing it's known as the
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dark side of the rainbow that. Doesn't make sense.
Like when the like, I know that album well and I'm just trying
to think, OK, what's going on when money is playing and then
what's going on when that Lady is doing all those sounds that
she does, if you know what I'm talking.
About. Yeah, well.
I don't know. You shouldn't try that out, but
(07:09):
in in terms of I will follow back to the topic of, you know,
I used to do that all the time. I get the teachers way off topic
talking about. I kind of did that too.
Randomness I say B plus I I. That was a solid start.
It wasn't my all time favorite song, but it was still pretty
good. It's not a dance song, I'll give
(07:30):
you that. No, that's OK though.
So that was I will follow. Next up is some Depeche Mode.
Remember Depeche Mode, right? Yeah, not Depeche Mode.
Now and what did they you one ofyour favorite songs?
Now these new favorite songs waswhat?
Oh. People are people.
Yeah, people are people. Yes, Thank you.
I could you put me on the spot there.
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I couldn't remember. So this is this is their first
album and I'm going to be honest, I didn't have this
album. Remember I had the K Tail the
Beat album that I was telling you about, and it had Depeche
Mode on there and it had other people as well.
But I fell in love with this song.
So later on I got this album, but I didn't have it out when it
came. OK.
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And wanted to come out. This is 81 I think.
Let me double check. 8/19/81. Yeah, they, yeah.
And the U2 was 80. That was 10th grade.
This is 11th grade. And that was a full adult
lifetime before me. That was 18 years before I was
born. I was 90. 8 I don't know if that
had to be said out loud, but it's OK.
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I find it important to point that out as much as possible.
This is. Dreaming of me though and I
just. I just love this song.
All right, well, dreaming of me in Depeche Mode.
Depeche Mode's still tours too, right?
We shouldn't. They're still out there.
We should see if we can try and see them.
This is already off to a little bit of a weird start, but let's
take a listen. Then another impartial grade
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right after this. Do you dream of me, Jim?
I do not. Do you dream about doing?
Do not. I might have a nightmare once in
a while, but no, I do not. Some Depeche Mode.
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Yeah, that's like synthpop early, early, you know, their
sound kind of evolved, but that's kind of their that's that
was a lot of the songs that werecoming out.
Just started it. This is like at 81.
And then it went on into my college years.
You know, we did some of those in a previous episode, but that
fun, electronic upbeat, you could dance to it.
(09:36):
Get the Casio piano out, start playing some of that.
Yeah, spike your hair up. Yeah, with some Elmer's glue.
I don't know about that. That's what they do.
That's how you get those like tall Mohawks.
You never. Back in maybe?
No, they still have that stuff now.
No. Well, Elmer's glue is washable.
Oh. See, I'm teaching you things.
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Yeah, I had a Mohawk, but it wasn't spiky.
Yeah, I still don't believe that, so we'll have to work on
that, but you don't have to. Dreaming of me.
Depeche Mode. I think we're just going to go
silent. B, It's little.
It's. OK, I can tell you're in a bad.
Mood, aren't you well? I think you are.
Something's going. On I don't know.
I don't know. So your Gray is going to really
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suck this time. I'm just telling you right now
because you are not coming in with a positive attitude and you
need to refresh. Take a deep breath, enjoy the
moment. Gosh, this is.
Great music you're being exposedto.
Yeah, something like that. Yeah.
Well, Depeche Mode, I do have toadmit, last time when we heard
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people are people, I did add that song to my playlist.
So I I think I consider myself apretty big Depeche Mode fan, so.
OK, but this is like I said, this is their first album.
You think about it, what was Taylor's first album like?
I don't know. It was country, but you it
people evolve. And so this was their first go
at it and I think that that's a great result.
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Yeah, you definitely see the roots of like some of their
later songs, like people are people, 'cause it, it just kind
of it vibes, you know, it vibes.But yeah, Salad B for Depeche
Mode. Next up, another strong artist,
Stevie Nicks. Now this, this album, this is
Stevie Nicks, who was from Fleetwood Mac and that she'd
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been around a while, but she went solo, right?
Had a lot of hits. Stop dragging my heart around.
You know that one, right? I probably would if I heard.
It with Tom Petty. Sometimes with with names of
songs. I don't do well with names of
she. Also did leather and lace with
Don Henley from the Eagles. Oh boy, it had.
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Think about it was a hit. Edge of 17 was the biggest hit,
just like the wide wing does. Sing a song.
That was on there, but I didn't want to.
All right, he's waking up. So I didn't want to play any of
those songs because there was a several hits on there.
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I think there were like, stop dragging my heart around with #3
Leather and Lace was #6 Edges 17was #7 This is the first song on
the album just called Belladonna.
It's what it's named after. I just like it.
Slow down, though. It's not going to.
You're going to dance to this one.
Well, that's OK, we don't have to dance to every.
I don't know. I just, I like to dance.
I don't know what to tell you. OK, just say what you think of
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Belladonna. All right, let's take a listen
here until a little Stevie Nicksaction.
So you said this was the first song on the album?
First of all, yeah, you know, she didn't start off with
upbeat. That was it.
Interesting. That is very like floating in
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the pool kind of vibe, you know what I mean?
The album went number one. Well, I mean, you think I don't?
Know if it was because of this? Well, no.
She, like I said, she had this again, I'm going to remind you
when you listen to an album, they're not all hits there.
Everything's not going to be a single.
Although some like, that's for sure Thriller or something like
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that. Almost everyone is a hit.
But you know, you listen to the album and there's these gems
that you find. You're like, oh, I really like
that song. You're not going to hear on the
radio, but that doesn't mean it's still not a great song.
Yeah, I don't know if that's thecase here, though.
I think we got to go C plus. Oh, gosh, I know, I know.
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I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm sorry, Stevie.
I'm sorry, Stevie. I know.
Stevie's listening. She would be so disappointed
right now. And I apologize, I'm just, I
don't know, not not feeling thatvibe right now.
That's OK. Well, next, all right, then what
you need to go is listen to Edgeof 17 or something a little bit
more upbeat. But see, I'm trying to.
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I thought you would have known. Well, you did.
You knew all these other songs. So I'm trying to let you know
there's some other good songs onthat album.
All right. Now, I don't know if you've ever
heard of Yaz or Yazoo. I've heard of Yaz.
I'm I'm pretty sure I've heard of Yaz.
Yazoo, I think is what they are called in England and for some
reason they had to overhear. They call them Yaz.
It might be a licensing thing orsomebody else had that name, I
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don't know. What, what?
What are their hits then? What is a well known song that I
would know about? Yeah.
They this is only an album or two.
I think it was I had the album. I think don't go.
Let me look and see only you. Only you maybe?
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OK, I googled it and I did not get the band.
I think it was only you and thenmaybe Situation was like a dance
hit. Maybe.
Is that on this album or is thaton the next one?
That might be on the next one. No, it was on this one.
Yeah, 1982, Yeah, upstairs at Eric's.
Yeah, I mean it. I think they were bigger in in
Europe. They're another synth pop duo
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and for some reason is Yaz here,is Yazoo there?
This the situation was like top 73, so it's not like this was a
huge success here, but it's still a good album.
It's upbeat, so if you like dance music, this this might do
it for you. We'll see.
And this song is called what 2? Pieces.
This is called 2 pieces TOO. TOO pieces.
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Yeah, Don't Go and Only You werethe two bigger songs on this
one, but I always like this. Also like this one.
OK, and why is it TOO and not TWO?
You'll have to ask her. Allison Moyet is her name.
Can you spell that for me? MOYETI think.
I don't know about that. It is.
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I had her solo album too All. Right.
Well, let's take a listen to a little Yaz right here on the
vinyl curriculum. She's got an interesting voice.
Very low. Very low and you said this is
she doesn't sing anymore after this point.
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On that song, yeah, that's it. And it's just the dance beat,
you know? That must be the life of being
like a singer and you'd be like,I'm only going to sing for half
the song. I'm done.
Like I don't no more words. We're just going to press the
loop button on the on the machine and let it play for the
rest of the time I. Have nothing else to say, yeah.
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Or should go into the bathroom or something real quick.
That was a little better. I'll give that.
I'll give that a solid B plus I think.
I think you would know. I think you would know.
Don't go. I probably would, yeah.
I just. I also don't appreciate.
I mean, I know we were just joking about it, but we're only
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singing for half the song like Ifeel.
Like, but it's again, it is on the album.
This was not a single. They would have not done that if
it was a single that they were going to release.
Just like the Cure will play fortwo or three minutes
instrumental, then they'll do a little singing and they'll do
instrumental. When you did Southern rock,
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there were some of those were really like Free Bird.
They're really long of guitar solos and jam parts, though it's
not necessarily made to be played on the radio.
This is they're an artist and they're trying to give you the,
you know, what they want to wantyou to hear.
And sometimes it's just the music aspect of it.
Is this before radio? When did radio become big?
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I don't even know. Are you kidding me right now?
When I mean, was radio invented when you were a kid?
Stop it. I don't.
Radio was like in they listen toradio dramas they like in the
20s and the 30s and that's you'dsit around the radio.
That's all you had way before. TV campfire chats or fire signs
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chats. With people, People are thinking
horrible things about you right now.
You. That's terrible, Logan.
No, no, no, no. I disagree.
I disagree. People, young people don't know
when things were invented. That's OK.
That's OK. I'm OK.
Not now. I'm sure it was.
Over 100 years ago and I'm not that old.
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Glad you clarified that because sometimes I wonder.
Not that, not that old. All right, all right.
The next one is in excess. You've heard of them?
Right, I have heard of in excess.
This is probably one of my favorite songs.
Don't change. OK, this album is not my
favorite. Like I said it was their first
one. I think they got better and they
got had a lot more hits down theroad, but this was a a decent
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hit for them. I'm trying to think they also
did the one thing and then don'tchange.
The ones thing was a little bit more successful, but Don't
change is my favorite. OK.
And what again? What are the hits from the I?
I'm blanking on some of the hitsfrom NXS.
It was listened like Thieves wasthe name of their album and it
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was the next one I'm pretty sure.
This one, though, was shabu. Shabu shabu.
I think shabu, shabu, Yeah, listen like.
No shabu shabba. Shabu shabba I.
Think so? I don't know.
This time, Listen Like Thieves was on the next album.
All right, well, let's take a listen to this one and then
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we'll give another impartial grade.
You know, I don't change for anybody, Jim.
I'm not. I'm certainly not changing for
you. I don't want you to change for
me, Logan. Really.
Because it it seems like you do every, every time we do this,
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you always criticize migrating and I'm tired of it, OK.
Then you need to change. But if you don't like to change
then just keep it up. All right, well, that was in
excess, which I, I knew in excess, but I, that was before I
knew how to spell their name. Oh.
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So I would say in excess and then I saw I was like, I don't
know who INXS is. That's a weird name.
That's that's a little better though a little bit more upbeat.
I think I like the the harder rock.
Like you have a little bit more guitar in that song.
You have a little bit stronger of a beat, a strong vocal rock
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presence. You have a strong drum beat, a
-, a minus for in excess. That's another one of those.
College. So when I think of that song, I
think of college. I think it came out like maybe
my junior year or maybe it was my senior year of high school.
But again, when you go to the frat parties, the bands would
play a lot of these songs. Yeah, because that was back in
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the band days, right when they didn't have the.
Now they just have DJs. I don't know what they have now,
but I mean, that was a big thing.
I'm telling you what they have now.
They have DJs now. Some bars though would have
bands and some would have DJs and.
I had friends who preferred going to the live music and I
had friends who preferred going to the the DJ so.
Yeah, I don't think there's too many live bands at parties
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anymore, but what do I know, I'mjust me.
You're starting to get old too. So you're not one of them.
An old man? Yeah, you're not one of them
anymore. I left my wheelchair in the car.
All right, well, got another good one for you here.
Desperate, but not serious. No, not serious.
This this guy named Adam Ant Adam like the insect yes OK used
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to be an Adam and the ants. They had a couple of albums and
then they split up and then thiswas his first solo adventure and
I think you on this album was goody 2 shoes.
Like goody 2 bamboo like that one or no no, that's tutti
fruity. No.
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OK, What? What Baba do Baba Wap Bamboo.
Tutti frutti no that's has absolutely nothing to do with
goody 2 shoes. Well, I mean, that's close.
Right. The thing I like about Adam Ant
is is I think he has two drummers or something.
There's something's gone every time they have a beat.
It's got this crazy beat in the background that I just love.
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OK, I'll. Google that and see if he has
two drummers. OK, well, I'll take a listen to
that Adam, Ant, not not to be confused with Ant Adam.
I don't know where I was going with that I.
Don't either. No Adam Ant and formerly of Adam
and the ants. OK, so then he consumed his.
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Isn't that what ants do? They don't, they eat each other?
I don't know. I don't know.
I have no idea. It's not a biology class.
I don't know well. Desperate, but not serious.
We're not serious here on the vinyl curriculum.
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I don't know if I'm hearing multiple drums.
Well, this is a slower one. Friend or foe play friend or foe
real quick. Friend or foe?
Yeah, it's on that same album, the first song.
OK, give me a second. I got to pull it up.
What is going on? It's not the first song.
(23:18):
Here we go. This is Friend or Foe by.
Adam, Ant and let's. Fix the kick in.
It's kind of like a you just mentioned it like a surfboard
vibe. My.
Own kind of, but. It's like a James Bond.
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It's got a Western. Sound like, I don't know, I feel
like the guitar sounded like a little Western.
Somebody's coming on a, you know, on their horses.
I don't know. What does the guitar sound like
on a horse? Like the western just don't even
talk to me about it. What I don't know does the.
Guitar sound different when you're playing it on a horse.
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No, it's just the visual of someone coming through a horse
and you hear that. The guitar that was on that
other song. OK, well, let's see.
What we're talking about, that sounds like a bunch of drums.
I mean, or just a talented. Drummer.
Well, it could be. I don't know.
That was a little taste of friend or foe.
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Yeah, by the esteemed adamant. Goody 2 shoes was the one that
was like win #12 so you would know that one.
OK. So what did you think of that?
I thought it was OK interesting.I thought it was OK.
I I think a solid B It was it had a good beat to it.
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It wasn't like to rock and rolly, as we established earlier
that I like, but that's OK. It was a it was a different vibe
that was kind of. 80s sounding with it had the synth and it had
the, you know, 80s kind of vibe to it.
But yeah, I think Solid B is where it's at for.
(25:01):
Animant yeah. And again, I am recommending
people listen to the entire albums.
If something like, oh, that's interesting, then I would
recommend you go listen to the entire album because I feel like
most of these albums are really good start to finish.
Right. All right.
Well, that was good. We've got another good group
coming up. Right now, Violent.
The Violent Femmes. Yes, Adam Ant, by the way, was
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82 and then I think the violent films for the next year, 83.
This there's several hits on this one.
One of you know, some of them are do you know any violent film
songs? I do OK.
This is my one of my favorite songs actually, of all time.
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OK, good. So I do.
I just want to play that one because I like that song so
much. Little Violent Femmes action.
Yeah. I don't know.
I like the Violent Femmes. I don't know if I would know any
other song by them, but. You might know this one.
OK, so did someone did your mom or dad have that album?
I think my mom, my mom was a bigmusic fan.
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She would go and see a lot of like cover bands and stuff.
And from what I remember, she had a, she had a boyfriend in
high school named Leo who was a drummer in a band and they would
play that song and I think she liked that.
So I, I don't know, that's just the story I always heard.
She was actually, her cousin wasin that band too, which is why I
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think she saw them. But.
That was blistering the sun, by the way, the one who was.
Started. Yes, it was.
The the one I'm suggesting though is called KISS OFF.
Kiss off, Kiss off. And this was just part of the
same album as Poster in the Sun.Yes, it was.
Oh, OK, self-titled Violent Films album.
All right, well, let's take a listen to this, see if it's as
good. I need someone, a person to talk
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to, someone who care to love. Could it be you?
Oh. Oh, that's the violent films.
All of their songs are crazy like that.
There is. There's a lot going on there,
Jim. I bet your Mama liked it.
Maybe, I don't know. That's just the way they were.
I think there was like 3 people.They I think they had the big, I
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don't know, the stand up bass I think and just kind of raw it
sounded. Like they took like they're
like, OK, here's a bunch of darts.
We're just going to throw them at the board, like with the
musical staff on it, and these are the notes we're going to.
Play that is not even a true. Statement.
Yeah, I don't I. Thought that I love this song.
I mean, I heard the underlying. Blister in the sun, you know,
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like you said with the stand up bass, some of the some of the
guitar licks were kind of had a similar sound to it.
But that is that is not that is not.
It I don't know, gone daddy gonewas another one for that one
that I just really liked, but I don't know I liked it.
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I well don't go listen to it. See, that's the interesting
though that you'd like blister in the sun.
But again, they had the lore because your Mama liked it.
And so then you're you have an attachment to it because that
sounds very similar if you thinkabout.
It it sounds very similar, but II feel like it's more kind of
jumbled. Is that is that an accurate word
Like the it's not as clean as doesn't have as clean of a beat
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as blister in the sun it. Had a, it changed, changed
beats. Maybe that was a problem.
You didn't have it from the get go and it was I.
Don't know, I guess it just was not it.
All right, so you're giving thatan A or an A minus?
I think, I think we'll go, we'llgo.
Salad B Okay, salad. I want your homework is I want
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you to talk to your mom about that and see if she remembers
that song. She may I.
Because I'd like to know if she liked it.
That first part, that first part, the intro was a little.
It's different. It's a little different once we
got into that second section or second chorus or whatever.
I don't even know what you'd call that, the second bridge or
I don't know, parts of music, you know, parts of music I.
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Don't know what? Whatever's after the intro, I
don't know whatever part, that'sall.
Yeah, well. The meat, the meat, the
potatoes. Yeah, so that the roast beef
sandwich right there. Yeah, solid B though for the
Violent Femmes. I like it.
OK, what do you know about R.E.M.?
Name is familiar. I would probably know some of
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the songs, but I don't think I can name any of the songs off
the top of my head. This was 83, their first album.
They were from like, I think Athens, GA or something, and.
To me, this is when college music started changing and my
musical taste started changing. And I would say the violent
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films were part of that too. You know, I, I would not have
listened to that in high school,but in college friends were
playing it and bars would play it and you got to hear it and
like, oh, this is different. And then you start liking it so.
Same thing with R.E.M. This is Radio Free Europe.
This was I think their first single.
Ever. Yeah, I'm looking at their song
list here. The one that I loved, the 1 I
(30:06):
loved. This one goes out to the one I
love. I know that song.
Yeah, I think he did it on on key.
But yeah, they broke up, you know, they were doing really
well and then they kind of brokeup.
Oh, you know, not I don't think it was a bad thing.
They just were, they had enough,enough money and.
This kind of broke up and I think one of them passed away,
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but Michael Stipe was the lead singer of this one.
Well, I think that just kind of happens in the music industry.
But this is R.E.M., Radio Free Europe here on the vinyl
curriculum. That one's a little bit upbeat.
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That one's not bad. That one's that bad.
It's good and. That one's off the Murmur album,
right? 83.
All right, Radio Free Europe B Plus, I think we're going to go
straight into it. This, you know, like I said, it
was 78, so it wasn't a huge hit,but then later on they just
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became very, very popular and crossed over.
And I think you'd know more R.E.M. songs than you think.
I think that's the case for a lot of these groups.
I think I'm just I'm I've never been very good with names or
being able to like call out. Oh, that's this, you know, but I
know songs, I know jams. I'm like Jack Black.
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You ever see Jack Black? He's like he did an interview.
I think he was on Conan with with.
Elton John, and he's like, you know, I don't know words, but he
knows jams. And he's like, and he was like
jamming it out to Elton John. And Elton John was like, what?
What's happening? Yeah, what is happening?
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Much like you are right now. Yeah, the thing about R.E.M., I
can't understand what they're saying.
And the nice thing about Spotifyor Apple Music, I think it'll
show you lyrics. And I was there was a song on
there. What was I listening to the
other day? And.
I'm like, what? I don't even know what he's
saying. It was laughing is the name of
the song. I'm like, what are they saying?
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And it was something totally I had no idea.
And so all this time I've been singing some make up, made-up
words that I had no idea what the real song was.
You know Apple Music now has karaoke moans so you can turn
off the words. Turns it down, turns it way
down. I think you can still.
You still kind of hear it, yeah.I mean, maybe.
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So you can go along, you know, you can know when you're.
Something like that, yeah. I don't know.
That's still a cool feature in my opinion.
So Radio Free Europe, R.E.M., we've got Madonna.
You might have heard of this next one.
Coming up, I know Madonna. Yeah, this album was, it was
amazing. If you go look at this, let me
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look at it real quick. Tell me if you know this.
Not lucky * borderline. Borderline, I know holiday
holiday probably know that. Everybody.
Everybody. Yeah, You would know most of
these songs. They're all upbeat, they're all
fun. Well, Madonna's Madonna.
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And I didn't know what she looked like.
I, you know, we, this is what, 83 or 84?
Back when there was in the StoneAge, no TV's. 83, Well, I didn't
have. MTV was out, but we didn't have
it in my small town. And so when I went to college,
we had it. And not until I saw the video
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did I realize what she looked like.
I thought she was African Americans.
She was very soulful. Yeah.
And she wasn't OK. No, she wasn't OK.
But I love this song. This is.
I think you're going to know it.Yeah, this is called Lucky Star.
And we've got time for just a couple more after this.
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You are listening to the Vinyl Curriculum podcast.
I think I thought that that was Cyndi Lauper.
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Yeah, she sounds a lot like Cyndi Lauper and some of it.
And 'cause this was one of her first albums, right?
These are all first albums, right?
OK, yeah. And.
Thank you, her voice. I don't appreciate the
condescending tone. OK.
The name of The thing is debut album, so why would you say this
is her first album right? Gosh.
OK, this is something interesting though.
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There was a song called Everybody that was the first one
released. It was released in 82 of
October. It was a dance song #3 then
Burning Up was released in Marchof 8313 on the dance club.
Then Holiday was released September of 83816.
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Borderline was released Februaryof 84 #10 and then Lucky Star
was released August of 84. Peaked at #4 That's almost two
years it was charting. That's kind of crazy.
That is crazy. That is a good.
I mean, that is. A well known song though,
because I've heard that song so.She and she had a whole look
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that every all these girls were dressed like her with the lace
in their hair and multi layered things and leggings and she
really. Kicked off the 80s revolution
wardrobe, I guess. I guess I didn't even realize
that that she was the one that kind of started.
That, well, she was the first big one I remember like that.
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The next one kind of was similar, but she was Madonna was
in a movie called Desperately Seeking Susan as an actress, and
then she didn't act for a while.Well, no, she was anyone with
Sean Penn too. I think she ended up marrying
him. But anyway, that was a great
album if you want to just. Upbeat drive in the car.
That whole album you'll like. It I like that I'm going to add
(36:15):
that album to my favorites rightnow as you talk about the next
one by it, Cyndi Lauper. Yes, Cyndi Lauper, another her
album was called She's so unusual and she was so
different. But the weird thing about Cyndi
Lauper is she has a really a good voice like she does.
She does this silly, you know, girls just want to have fun kind
of stuff. But all through the night on
(36:37):
this album was great. Time after time, you know that
when it was on this album, it was great.
Girls Doesn't Want to Have Fun was great.
This is Money Changes everythingand this is my favorite.
It was a video, and I remember she was flying across.
It was a concert and she was flying on a something hanging
over the crowd. You know what she was singing.
Yeah. Yeah, did you know she was AWWE
(37:01):
wrestler at one point? Well, and I remember.
She would do a a stick with one of the yeah.
And then she came back like in 2010 ish.
Yeah. And I don't follow that, so I
don't. I mean what?
I don't follow that either. What?
(37:21):
Are you talking about? I have never What about you?
What now? I bet you like it.
It's not wrestling. It's wrestling.
It's wrestling wrestling. Wrestling, it's a it's a
wonderful TV production. Thank you.
You're welcome. All right, well, let's take a
listen to Cyndi Lauper and then.Money changes everything.
I guess so, and maybe in your opinion it shouldn't though.
(37:41):
Money is not everything, happiness is where it's at.
She begs to differ. Well, let's take a listen to
see. See, that doesn't even that's
not as quintessential Cyndi Lauper as the Madonna song.
(38:01):
I feel like Madonna sounded morelike Cyndi Lauper than Cyndi
Lauper did right there. But.
Cyndi Lauper had slow songs she had.
Fast songs she had. I know that it's not all about
that. I'm just talking about.
That sounds just like Cyndi Lauper.
There's, if you were to ask, 100people.
Who is that? And if they knew who Cyndi
Lauper sounded like, they would,every one of them.
Well, people like you might not,but 97 of them would say, I
(38:25):
think that's Cyndi. Lauper Well, I don't know about
that, but you suddenly forgot tograde.
Yeah, we got to I. Didn't hear your Madonna song?
Madonna, I think a minus for Madonna.
OK, a minus for Madonna. That was pretty good and.
Then what about? Starlight, Starlight.
(38:46):
We'll go salad beef for Cyndi Lauper.
You know, she's doing her final tour right now and she would be
very disappointed if she heard this.
Final tour where he says. It was, it was last year she
came through and now she's goingto be at Tenley again.
Oh. It's a long final tour.
It's a yeah two times around theworld.
I would like to see that. I think if you want to buy me
(39:06):
tickets for my birthday or something, you can buy me
tickets to her going away tour. What?
You know, we should use the powers of the podcast, get a
media credential and go in and interview Cyndi Lauper.
You do that. I will, I will go with you and
enjoy the concert while you talkto.
Her. All right, Thank you.
(39:28):
That was Cyndi Lauper. Money changes everything, even
though it shouldn't, because money is not everything.
But my take away from this is that's a good album.
Go listen. There's so many good song,
different, upbeat, slow. Emotional, silly.
She's just, she's pretty talented.
Yeah, well, before we get into the last song, do you want to
(39:49):
talk about the bonus tracks for?This Yeah, I have two songs at
on the playlist from the Violet films, and the next one's one's
from The Smiths, and they're slow and you know the Violet.
Is that why you. Didn't put them on the playlist.
Because I know you'd hate them, but it just goes to show that
when there weren't singles, but the violent films, you know,
they're this crazy punkish kind of thing and they sing a slow
(40:12):
song and I just love it. OK.
And then same thing for The Smiths.
You know, The Smiths are one of my favourites with Morrissey as
Elise Singer. The Hand That Rocks for Cradle
is one of my favorite songs on that first album.
I'd like to. Hear what the Violent Femmes
sound like. It's a slow song, so I'm going
to have to listen to that. Good Feeling by the Violent
Femmes. Also the name of the album?
(40:33):
Well, this is. The podcast, it's not the radio.
Play it real quick. You might get teary eyed because
it's kind of emotional. All right, let's take a listen.
A little listen, a little preview.
This is a the bonus track for the podcast Stay With.
Me just a little longer. Oh, Logan, do you need a tissue?
(40:54):
I think he's getting teary eyed over there.
That is not accurate, not even alittle bit.
Getting ready to throw my phone across the the studio here you.
Didn't like that. No.
What? Logan, I don't think you have an
emotional side to you. I really don't.
I don't think you can go deep like that.
No, I actually don't. My parents have told me for a
long time that I have a black hole where my heart's supposed
(41:16):
to be. Why didn't I know that before we
started this podcast? I don't know.
There's no hope, is what you're.Telling me no emotions.
Your poor fiance. I wonder how to talk to her.
About this, you should. And you know what?
She'll agree with you 100%. Logan that anyway, that's good
feeling by the Violet films on that.
Does not have me feeling good, Ican tell you that.
(41:37):
Right now this one will this next one.
This is The Smiths. You know, they're one of my
favourites, this charming man ontheir first album their and it
did not chart in America becauseI don't think any of these did
on this album, but love it. It's a classic.
OK, well, this is The Smiths, the hand that rocks the cradle.
(41:58):
No, that's the oh what? The hand that locks the cradle
is the the slower one. That's the bonus.
Track gosh OK your. Grade is really tanking.
Right now you've got me confusedhere.
See, I've got the podcast or I've got the playlist open, the
Apple playlist open. That's why I'm playing these
songs. And all these songs are on here,
(42:18):
which is great. You do a fantastic job.
People should go look it up right now on Apple Music and on
Spotify. Jim's got the whole playlist for
all the songs plus the bonus songs.
That's right. Would you even believe it?
And. You don't even have to pay extra
for the bonus. No, not even, not even close.
So this is the charming man, this charming man, this charming
man. It, this is an adequate
(42:39):
description of myself. This should become my new theme.
Song. Let's take a listen.
Was that a sneeze? That was a scream.
What was that? I can't do it, but I'm sure you
want to. Now you got to go.
(43:03):
And who's the lead singer of TheSmiths?
Morrissey. Yes.
See, I am learning things. That was on a test last time.
You know, Jim gives me pop quizzes.
He comes into work and hands me a piece of paper, he said.
Here you go. I love this miss and I love that
album. It's different.
I mean, it's kind of, I don't know.
Aggressive. He's aggressive.
(43:25):
It's like, I don't know about aggressive.
That's not. It's not a feel good album.
No, it's not like Taylor Swift'sfolklore.
No, no, no, this is. This is pretty good though.
I'll give it an A minus. OK.
Or she would be happy. I'm happy.
He did it again. He scared me that he did it
(43:48):
again. All right, so what's the take
away here, Logan? The take away is listen to the
albums and you might find hiddentreasures that you'd would never
hear on the radio, but it might be your all time favorite.
Maybe I don't know if I would have the same response to this
playlist as you these are. These are just songs that I
(44:09):
like, but I'm just saying, if some of those you thought, oh,
that's interesting. I wonder what the rest of that
album sounds like. That's what you trying to get
you in that mindset because you're missing out on so much
good stuff. Yeah, but then that's just not
how my brain thinks though, I don't think.
Oh, I like this song. I bet I'd like the rest of the
album, no? Well, that's what we're trying
to change, Logan. Should we tell him about Episode
(44:31):
10 which is a couple of away? Yes, this is episode 8, this is
episode 8 and episode 10. So that not next week, the
following week we will have we'll mix up the roles a little
bit. I will be the one creating the
playlist so you get to hear someof my favorite songs.
(44:51):
So I think every I'm I'm very anxious and excited to see what
you do like. And I think anxious at the same
time. And I think the audience is
curious as well. So it'll be interesting to know
what. Does Logan prefer I'm preparing
emotionally for for the harsh, harsh criticism that I will
(45:12):
receive? I like almost every kind of
music. I'm telling you right now, I
will not be impartial if it's a bunch of rap.
And I'll tell you right now I'm not gonna like it.
I don't. I'm not a big rap guy.
I'm not either. Just young gravy, baby.
Just young. I don't.
Even know what that means. I don't even know if I know Post
Malone. That's about it.
Yeah. All right.
Well for this episode today as agrand grade, a final grade for
(45:38):
early 80s debut albums. Before you grade it though, are
you grading just the songs I played?
Are you grading the artist's initial albums?
I'm grading because obviously these are very successful
people, so more people agreed with my.
Thoughts. See, I think that's not fair
though. That's what are you, what are
(45:59):
you grading? I'm grading the songs that you
presented me here today and is. I'm not grading the albums
because I honestly think, in my humble opinion, my grade would
change if we were including the whole album.
Well, yeah, I think it would be higher.
It would because I would have played the the the ones you know
and the one you. If you know it, you're
automatically going to add a grade point to it practically.
(46:21):
Well, that is entirely accurate,but that's besides the point.
OK, so a what? Early 80s debut albums, final
grade of just a straight B, Justa straight B respectable.
We had a we had AC plus wasn't my favorite, but we had a fair
amount of As as well. So yeah, you know, it's not too
(46:45):
low. And by the way, you're awful
hateful, OK, You, you have all this hate in your body.
For me, I very rarely I've only given out a handful of CS
Everything has been very generous.
I'm pushing you. I'm pushing you to do better.
I just think the worst grade yougave was Stevie Nicks.
That's just sad. That is a sad commentary.
(47:07):
Well, that was just not the songto pick, I guess.
Well, if you wanted to hear Edgeof 17, you can just listen to
the radio. That grade reflects your poor
choice of music as well. It's not.
Again, not grading the albums. I'm grading your choice to
represent this music category. All right, well, and.
(47:30):
You you're just about average. We'll give you AB.
With that mindset, you're going to get AB minus Boo, and that's
also your production. Talk myself.
Talk my. Way out of a higher.
Grade it would have been AB, butsince you screwed up the
playlist and you were playing the bonus tracks and all that
stuff, no no, not going to work.So B minus.
(47:51):
It's fun though. Logan is always fun.
It always is. We're not.
There was no live show this week, but we'll hopefully be
back on Monday. You've been listening to the
final curriculum. Till next time.
We'll catch you on the next one.Bye.
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